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Title: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on June 27, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
Vote for the best season of The Amazing Race and tell everyone why!
My favorite is Season 10. I liked the unpredictability, the locations, and the teams. Even though the most boring teams made the Final 3, it was still a great season.
Note: Poll has been updated to include TAR 13 and 14.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: puddin on June 27, 2008, 10:23:41 PM
7 by far is my favorite as well as AllStars! Romber lover here :neener: .
welcome to the forum Hooky :waves:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on June 27, 2008, 11:51:22 PM
TAR7 was the best. Lots of tension. Down to the wire finish. Strong teams. Romber vs. Lynn/Alex. Romber vs. Susan/Bratty Patrick. Romber vs. Uchenna/Joyce. Ray vs. Deanna.
I still contend BVM and Elise held up the last flight to Miami so Uchenna/Joyce could get on. No, I'm not bitter. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Welcome, Hooky and good topic. :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 12:26:44 AM
TAR7 was the best. Lots of tension. Down to the wire finish. Strong teams. Romber vs. Lynn/Alex. Romber vs. Susan/Bratty Patrick. Romber vs. Uchenna/Joyce. Ray vs. Deanna.
I still contend BVM and Elise held up the last flight to Miami so Uchenna/Joyce could get on. No, I'm not bitter. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Welcome, Hooky and good topic. :tup: :tup:
I agree Ken! Also, I can't remember if I read it or someone told me? Anyway Lynn & Karlyn TAR10 said that production told Air France not to let them on the plane, London to NY. So if they can do that then..... :snicker:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Belle Book on June 28, 2008, 06:01:04 PM
My top three are Season 5, Season 7 and Season 12. I guess either Season 5 or Season 7 would be my favorite season. I would've put Season 12 as my favorite if Ron & Christina won, but instead I have to put it in third. Both Season 5 & Season 7 had my favorite team win the Race. I guess I'd put Season 7 as my favorite because there were so many interesting teams in that season.
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on June 28, 2008, 08:09:13 PM
Hmmm. Ranking them is interesting. If I had to rank the Top 5, I'd go this way:
1. TAR7 2. TAR 12 3. TAR 2 4. TAR All Stars 5. TAR 5
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Zack. on June 29, 2008, 12:58:57 AM
My favorite season would have to be TAR3. The casting was top notch: Ken/Gerard is my favorite team while Zach is one of my favorite individual racers, Flo and Ian cranked up the dramatics, and the hateful people were (mostly) eliminated in hilarious ways ("walk to the pit stop", Dieselgate). In spite of all that Europe, there were some unique locations (Mexico, the Alps, Scotland) and some very cool tasks (the Detour in the first Swiss leg, the totem pole roadblock, the speed run for the tank). Plus, it has probably my favorite episode overall (in Ho Chi Minh City).
TAR1 and TAR5 also rank very highly for me.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: michael on June 29, 2008, 01:01:41 AM
those two seasons that had those two blonde chicks that i was not obsessed with were my favorite.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on June 29, 2008, 07:18:05 AM
I am with zachattack308, almost. I like Season 2 the best, season 1 next best, and season 5 third. The hair-rising finish of Tara running to the finish line and being overtaken by Chris and Alex just short of it has never been equalled in any other Amazing Race and there were some really neat locales inluding Alaska that were part of this race.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on June 29, 2008, 12:16:26 PM
I liked Season 7 too, but I didn't like the editing. Rob & Amber got more air time than the other teams almost constantly. :groan:
I liked Season 6's locations, but the model and actor teams weren't that interesting. Lena & Kristy and Avi & Joe should have made it further.
Season 5 wasn't my favorite. I just didn't really like any team in particular. Season 4 was that way too.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: sunnyca on June 30, 2008, 10:47:22 PM
Hi all, I'm new to The Amazing Race (yes, I know!!! I'm sooooooo TAR-deprived - I can't believe nobody told me about it all these years - it zipped to the top of my favs, beating out SATC by a good 50,000 miles, six continents and...), this forum and posting in general, so forgive any indiscretions!
I only started watching about halfway thru the last season, but I've been trying hard to catch up, so far I've seen seasons 12, 1 & 7 (out on DVD - why aren't the others for such a popular show??), 9 & 10 and a couple from 11 (on reality TV). So of these my favs are: 1. TAR10 - great teams (and the most diverse!), great locations (loved beijing, mongolia, vietnam, finland, morocco) and tasks (Kandice being dragged by the horse, Peter and Sarah figthing the hyniks, Sarah's climb etc etc) - also the only one to go west from the US - pretty rough start for people who haven't traveled much before! 2. TAR9 - I loved the hippies (though they don't seem too popular on here!), have to admire the Frat boys for their racing skills and Fran/Barry, also some hilarious teams (MoJo, Lake/Michelle, Dave/Lori) - although fewer dating/married couples would be nice. 3. TAR7 - Enough said here already.. 4. TAR1 - ok, tasks got better, racers got better, the editing got better - but there's something raw and spine-tingling knowing this was the first time ever - the racers had no idea what to expect next. and the teams were some of the best personalities I've seen so far. 5. TAR12 - from what I saw, too many "young" teams without much personality, glad that 2 of the 3 teams with "wiser" heads were in the last 3! 6. TAR11 - only a couple episodes, so can't judge. but the finale was good, and like in TAR9 and 12, I like that there was a tough task after the last flight, and one that involved a recap of the season. OK, long first post! but look forward to more - glad I found this (almost as much as finding the show!)!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2008, 11:13:41 PM
:bigwelcome sunnyca!
You're in the right place for sure! We all adore the race around here!
You have SO much to look forward to! Glad you found us! :hello2:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 30, 2008, 11:26:13 PM
Heres my faves
1 to 12 7 3 5 10 12 11 9 6 2 4 1 8
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: sunnyca on July 01, 2008, 02:09:50 PM
You're in the right place for sure! We all adore the race around here!
You have SO much to look forward to! Glad you found us! :hello2:
Thanks for the warm welcome! I sure look forward to sharing TARluv with you all! BTW, you seem like an old-timer here judging by your # posts - which were your fav seasons? Also seems like a lot of people liked seasons 5 & 3 - where can i see them? they're not on DVD :-( and i don't see them on youtube either.. do folks have tapes they can share if i promise to guard them with my life??
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on July 01, 2008, 02:30:50 PM
Here's 5: (my very most favorite!) Thanks to dragoondaniel!
http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=22116D1334D420D1 (I strongly suggest downloading it because it will probably disappear any minute now :groan: )
Old-timer! :lol3: :wise :lol3:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 01, 2008, 03:10:41 PM
lol: :lol: hahahaha, not old at all!!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: puddin on July 01, 2008, 03:46:11 PM
For those that don't know how to download http://www.download.com/YouTube-Downloader/3000-2071_4-10647340.html
For dead youtube links ...........it really works!! http://revivetube.com/
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 01, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
About the DVD question, this is something that has perplexed me for years. CBS was planning to release the seasons in order and released TAR1, but in the midst of planning, TAR7 was such a big ratings winner, CBS/WRP rushed out the DVD. But according to CBS, the sales of both seasons were disappointing and any plans to release subsequent seasons stopped. I do believe this is bullcrappy because everyone I know has both on DVD.
There are bootleg editions of all the seasons, you just have to know where to look.
Also, CBS does not own all of the seasons, Disney's production arm, Touchstone Television owns a couple of seasons and this is also a holdup.
I do think that eventually, all of the seasons will be released. As Phil says, "it could take a long time."
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on July 01, 2008, 08:30:43 PM
Why did CBS give some seasons to Disney? Which seasons are they?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 01, 2008, 08:57:16 PM
It's not like Touchstone was given ownership, they bought outright ownership of the seasons. I don't know which exact ones per se, but suffice to say it's a roadblock. I think Touchstone owns two or three seasons.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: sunnyca on July 01, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
wow cool, thanks for the links, people! :jumpy: i suspect i'm not going to get much work done in the next few days, good thing it's a short workweek..
hey, didn't mean to be "ageist" here - i just meant in terms of # of posts!!! who knows or cares on the web anyways, long as there are no ax murderers on this site - which doesn't seem likely!
interesting about the different seasons being owned by different people. i guess since foxreality showed seasons 9 & 10 recently, they may own the DVD rights to those too.. and i have to admit i rented the DVDs from netflix, not bought them! but i did buy the amazing race game and My Ox is Broken! and would happily buy t-shirts or other TAR branded stuff if cbs sold them online!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 01, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
CBS/Paramount sold the cable syndication rights of TAR 1-8 to GSN and then 9-12 to Fox Reality. They have nothing to do with DVD rights.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on July 01, 2008, 11:45:55 PM
Us old timers have to keep our axes sharp! :lol3:
(Just teasing you, sunnyca! :lol:)
CBS Store w/ T Shirts galore! http://www.cbsstore.com/index.php?v=cbs-amazingrace
I always heard that part of the DVD issue was who owned what. Apparently CBS owns some, WRP owns some, and ABC/Disney?Touchstone owns some....
And then there are sales.... :duno:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: puddin on July 02, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
off topic
I want to buy the jacket (http://www.cbsstore.com/detail.php?p=57385&v=cbs-amazingrace) & bag (http://www.cbsstore.com/detail.php?p=57384) for when I go to Florida, then run around the airport asking for directions to somewhere. Maybe I can start rumors for TAR 14. :sucks
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: J19000 on July 04, 2008, 11:20:58 PM
Season six has always been my favorite, is now and hopefully will be in the future, I think it's underated. Here is my long post outlining my why...
The great things were the teams for one, a lot of homor and color compared to recent season people. The new twists & turns on TAR5 were amazingly increased on this season to a new penalty in regards to the Roadblock and the new double-length-leg bunching to me was a strong and very wise move to bring into the season, it was the first season to contain it.
I also loved the locations (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Hungary, France, Ethiopia, Sri Lanka and Hawaii), better than any other season. The suspense was up there, no one would have been expecting the first non-elimination leg to be on Leg 4 because it was earlier on in the race, or even Leg 7 being the second of a pre-determined either. Any great team that was eliminated went out of the race proud of their success, especially the more lovable teams. Kris and Jon, even though they didn't win they always kept a smile on their face. The whole model thing and some good teams going out earlier didn't matter to me. The point is, I liked all teams except for Kendra, Freddy was alright.
-The task design was also my personal favorite for that aspect over all the other seasons. The Detour's and Roadblocks were just right on fun, interesting and especially challenging. I never got bored once while watching it. Lena and Kristy's elimination in Sweden because of a difficult luck-based task was a bit upsetting but they tried their best, that's the main thing, so as I upset when Don & Mary Jean and Gus & Hera when they were eliminated.
Also, who could forget the slave house in Senegal on the Berlin leg? A wonderful and emotional thing to experience or even see!
The homor was fantastic, the overused equalizers were awesome because the suspense was increased (at least they only occured near the beginning of a leg) and the TWO-hour season final was a brilliant masterpiece.
The first proposal took place in Xian as well by Aaron who proposed to Haydon (nice...!) And lastly, this season had a great feeling about it.
-I'll get another thing straight -- Jonathan and Victoria. Okay, so there were some very nasty times between them like in Berlin and during the eating Roadblock in Hungary, but other than that they were the most homorous (with Lori and Bolo right behind) and I loved watching them. I was actually quite sad after their elimination in Ethiopia.
There, you have heard my opinion. So my only negative was Lena and Kristy's un-derserved elimination and the winners. TAR6 = My #1 favorite, followed by Season 7 which was similar to this season then TAR5.
Here are my rankings from best to worst:
6-7-5-9-11-3-10-2-12-8-4-1
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on July 05, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
My Rankings (best to worst): 10 7 6 11 12 5 4
Those are the only ones I've seen.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: J19000 on August 03, 2008, 03:42:13 AM
I've changed my order (slightly)
My rankings (best to worst)
6-7-5-9-10-3-2-12-11-4-1-8
Worst was the first season but now that I really think about the overall terms - TAR8 sucked. I did not like it at all, at least I liked the other 11 seasons in some form of way.
Seasons 6 and 7 are almost a tie, refer to my previous message for more details...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TheScandinavianAmazingR. on September 28, 2008, 08:10:11 AM
Hmmm. Ranking them is interesting. If I had to rank the Top 5, I'd go this way:
1. TAR7 2. TAR 12 3. TAR 2 4. TAR All Stars 5. TAR 5
My Top five is: 1. TAR 11 ( All Stars) 2. TAR 5 3. TAR 9 4. TAR 7 5. TAR 10
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on September 28, 2008, 06:42:00 PM
Well the hard thing is often the route is great in a season where I am less fond of the racers. For example I love the route and tasks in season 6 and 4, and am not in general fond of those casts.
Then there are seasons like 7 and 9 where I generally liked the interactions between teams (even the ones I didn't like) but didn't care for a lot of the route and tasks.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: michael on September 28, 2008, 06:49:33 PM
I think my favorite routes were: 2, 3, 5, 6, 10. I hated TAR 11's route.
Favorite casts: 2, 3, 9, 10
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on September 28, 2008, 08:10:15 PM
Damn it Michael we agree on casts....
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: michael on September 28, 2008, 08:10:57 PM
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on October 05, 2008, 10:55:27 AM
UPDATED:
My best casts (I won't count 8 or 11): TAR 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 13, 14 (10 had a cast of such different and unusual people that you had to be interested) My worst cast: 12 (Too many from California and they all seemed to be similar to each other with a few exceptions)
My best route/tasks: 5, 6, 7, 10, 14 (10 had an unpredictable route and I liked a majority of the tasks) My worst route/tasks: 11, 12, 13 (12 had new countries, but nothing too exciting in the tasks)
Bolded ones are the best/worst.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: topaz on October 13, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
here's mine:
Top 5 best seasons are 5, 9, 12, 3 and 7.
Top 5 worst seasons are Family Edition, All-Stars, 1, 4 and 6.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Umass on November 13, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
My favorite seasons are 6,5, 3, 10, 1, and 2. While I love TAR the other seasons were not as enjoyable due to the teams personalities. Family edition I don't even consider a TAR at all.
Season 6 was the most intense based on competition as they were many m/f couples with equal age range and ability. One of my favorite Detuors-Count it or build it, showed something simple can be difficult under pressure and despite Jonathan I really enjoyed TAR6.
Season 5 had the most diverse in terms of places visited. I loved the Egypt leg when they went down into the pyramid. Chip was a decent guy and had to yield C&K t as he wasn't as strong at his age as Colin. The racers as a group were pretty enjoyable yes, even C/K and of course TAR 5 gave us C/M.
Season 3 was saved by Flo not despite her. Her and Zack made that season otherwise it was pretty boring team wise. Locations and tasks were not very interesting.
Season 1 Genesis and gave us team Guido, K/D, and first break up . Season 2 gave us D/O and the closest TAR finish to date. Season 10 gave us Beauty Queens, Bama, and Kentucky. I also really liked the Mongolian and Vietnam legs. Especially, the rowwing part as it was the very physical but it came at such an early stage of the race it gave weaker teams a taste of hard difficult TAR is as those tasks are usually in later legs.
TAR4 was ruined by K&J personal attacks on fellow racers. Out of all the "villians" in TAR history K&J are the worst. K&J attacked C&R because they are gay, Millie for a mole, Chuck for facial hair, other cultural because they are different. K&J are worse then Guidos, Romber, Beauty Queens and Jonathan.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on November 13, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
UMASS, you may be surprised to learn that there was no C&K on AR5, my favorite season. I assume you have misspellled Christie as starting with a K, but that's wrong. We have Colin & Christie, C&C, as the only team remotely close to your version of their initials.
EDITOR's NOTE - cdfe88 has correctly stated that C&K was CHip and Kim. I have them blotted out of my memory for the luckiest win in any Amazing Race. What I say above is not relevant.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Snooky on December 05, 2008, 05:09:19 PM
My order from best to worst seasons are: 7, 10, 9, 6, 5, 3, 2, all-atars, 13, family, 12, 1, and 4
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on December 05, 2008, 05:18:32 PM
UMASS, you may be surprised to learn that there was no C&K on AR5, my favorite season. I assume you have misspellled Christie as starting with a K, but that's wrong. We have Colin & Christie, C&C, as the only team remotely close to your version of their initials.
Chip & Kim anyone?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Snooky on March 19, 2009, 06:32:24 PM
It's been a while... The best season to date for me has been Season 14! - Love almost everything about it!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Moo on March 21, 2009, 09:10:36 PM
3. All Stars - Romber got eliminated by Charla/Mirna <3<3<3! I can rewatch it over and over again and not get tired! BQ Ownage!, Ozzy/Danny, Guidos, Classical! (Let's pretend that this season never actually ended... CBS probably accidentally flushed down the real final episode down the toilet so they made one up just to have a season finale...)
SCORE: 9.3/10
4. Season 3 - Flo domination! Locations love! First season to get the feeling of the race itself getting harder
SCORE: 9.2/10
5. Season 5 - Philippines love! Collin/Christie's Broken Ox!
SCORE: 8.7/10
AVERAGE 1. Season 2 - Ozzy/Danny, Mary/Peach elimination made this season sink. SCORE: 8.2/10
1.Season 6 - After Hayden/Aaron gets eliminated and hyperventilates in China. Nice locations! SCORE: 8.2/10
2. Season 4 - One of the best in the beginning, ending in disaster after Millie/Chuck gets eliminated SCORE: 7.8/10
3. Season 10 - 13 countries did not make up for the final 3... </3 SCORE: 7.5/10
4. Season 7 - Romber was there. Meredith/Gretch not making it to F3 </3</3</3 SCORE: 7.3/10
4. Season 13 - Few countries, After Ken/Tina gets lost in India ending in Last Place, we knew what would happen next... SCORE: 7.3/10
5. Season 8 - good concept, bad places. That's probably it. SCORE: 7/10
ABSOLUTE TRAINWRECK (Even though I have watched it still...) 2. Season 9 - Bah. I actually forgot a season like this ever existed. It actually had one of the best race routes, only to be devoured by wrong casting.
SCORE: 1.0/10 (mind the decimal dot)
CLASSIC (Unrankable) Season 1 - Everything is new after all...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Genie on March 21, 2009, 10:07:39 PM
season 5 for me :snicker: and then 14 ;D
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Slowhatch on March 21, 2009, 11:54:10 PM
I thought I'd throw this in here because it lists all the seasons. I made this list for reference but I'll make a quiz out of it (everybody says my questions are too easy, so it shouldn't take long). This is a list of what I call skyscraper standups, although many aren't skyscrapers or even tall places. Complete the sequence--I've thrown in a photo for help.
14-Portuguese Point (http://www.californiacoastline.org/cgi-bin/image.cgi?image=200406334&mode=sequential&flags=0&year=2004), Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
13-Century Plaza Towers (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=centuryplazatowers-losangeles), Century City, CA
12-Westin Bonaventure (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=westinbonavenuenture-losangeles-ca-usa), Los Angeles, CA
11-Bank of America Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=bankofamericatower-miami-fl-usa), Miami, FL
10-A Washington State Ferry (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/your_wsf/our_fleet/index.cfm?fuseaction=classes), by the looks of it a Jumbo Mark II class
09-Granite Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=granitetower-denver-co-usa), Denver, Co
08-Statue of Liberty (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=statueofliberty-newyorkcity-ny-usa)
07-Queen Mary (http://www.californiacoastline.org/cgi-bin/image.cgi?image=200406470&mode=sequential&flags=0&year=2004), Long Beach, CA
06-Marina City (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=marinacity-chicago), Chicago, IL
05-The Artana (http://www.yachtauthority.com/viewer_boat_details.php?boat_id=4479), a private motor yacht, off the Malibu, CA coastline
04-US Bank Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=usbanktower-losangeles-ca-usa), Los Angeles, CA
02-A dry lakebed (http://geogdata.csun.edu/ca_panorama_atlas/page12/files/page12-1040-full.html) southwest of Pahrump, NV
01-Carnegie Hall Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=carnegiehalltower-newyorkcity-ny-usa),NYC
Ah well, the complete list is now included.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: inomu on March 22, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
My favourite season are:
Season 6: I liked that first three legs were in Nordic countries. Other good locations were Hungary and Sri Lanka. Interesting teams. Jonathan & Victoria and Lori & Bolo are my favourites. I love fighting couples ;D Kris and John were great too.
Season 9: This is my favourite season only because of BJ & Tyler. I liked them and like them still. I liked also MoJo and Eric & Jeremy. It was great that Race finally visited Japan!
Season 10: Great teams: Dustin & Kandice, James & Tyler and Mary & Dave. Great locations: Finland (finally :yess: ), Ukraine, Mauritius, Madagascar and Spain.
My least favourite seasons are 7, Family Edition and All-Stars. In All-Stars there were too many legs in South America, same with season 7. I don't know why but I don't like American legs (and Family Edition was only in America!). Season 7 was great after they left India and Lynn & Alex were eliminated. With All-Stars I was sad that great teams Rob & Amber and John Vito & Jill were eliminated so early. :groan:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on March 22, 2009, 10:28:21 PM
I thought I'd throw this in here because it lists all the seasons. I made this list for reference but I'll make a quiz out of it (everybody says my questions are too easy, so it shouldn't take long). This is a list of what I call skyscraper standups, although many aren't skyscrapers or even tall places. Complete the sequence--I've thrown in a photo for help.
14-Portuguese Point, Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
13-Century Plaza Towers (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=centuryplazatowers-losangeles), Century City, CA
12-Westin Bonaventure (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=westinbonavenuenture-losangeles-ca-usa), Los Angeles, CA
11-Bank of America Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=bankofamericatower-miami-fl-usa), Miami, FL
10-A Washington State Ferry (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/your_wsf/our_fleet/index.cfm?fuseaction=classes), by the looks of it a Jumbo Mark II class
09-Granite Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=granitetower-denver-co-usa), Denver, Co
08-Statue of Liberty
07-Queen Mary, Long Beach, CA
06-Marina City (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=marinacity-chicago), Chicago, IL
05-The Artana (http://www.yachtauthority.com/viewer_boat_details.php?boat_id=4479), a private motor yacht, off the Malibu, CA coastline
04-US Bank Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=usbanktower-losangeles-ca-usa), Los Angeles, CA
slowhatch, Nobody else has risen ot the occasion, but anyone from the New York metro area can see the Empire State Building prominent in this photo. I believe it is a shot form midtown Manhattan, with downtwon Manhattan barely visible in the distance. If it were the other way around then there would be other large buildings visible in the background.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Slowhatch on March 23, 2009, 12:18:12 AM
Quote
I believe it is a shot form midtown Manhattan...
:jam: Yep, you're closing in. I tried at first to work a solution from the ESB, but gave up after a while; I finally found an answer when I could put a name on the unusual-looking building next to the standup.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Kogs on March 23, 2009, 08:21:10 PM
i would say somewhere in the mid20's street range that building is located
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: J19000 on September 23, 2009, 11:49:19 PM
After 14 seasons, my decisions have clearly changed.
The best seasons
Season 3 and 6.
I loved both, great locations, great suspense (6), great touch (3). Wonderful cast from the third season, and an excellent choice of entertainment from TAR 6.
My ranking best to worst:
3/6-7-5-11-10-9-2-12-4-8-1-13-14
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on September 24, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
TAR 14 beats TAR 9 in everyway in my opinion.
TAR 9 was pathetic, i thought... :groan:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on September 24, 2009, 10:16:52 AM
I almost lost my TAR love during/after 9. And THAT's saying something! :ascared
Aww, c'mon, TAR 9 was the one that recruited me in the first place! From my perspective it is where it all started. I loved BJ & Tyler! :wohoo:
And then TAR 10's cast was announced...and I was blown away. :colors
Ahhhh... but see, I have the EARLY seasons LOVE to hang onto. And regained the love in 10 as well.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: michael on September 24, 2009, 12:10:51 PM
I'm obviously going to pick TAR10. It introduced me to Dustin and Kandice =)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 24, 2009, 02:52:36 PM
Of course. :snicker: :snicker:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: slayton on September 24, 2009, 05:01:07 PM
I was really excited for TAR 10 when the cast was announced, especially since they finally had an Asian team, but the season got progressively worse for me. It's still the only season that I've never finished watching.
After being disappointed with the show for four years because of TAR 8-13, I definitely agree with Phil that TAR 14 was a special season. I would rank it right up there with 1, 3, 5, and 7.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Snooky on September 24, 2009, 06:04:21 PM
I almost lost my TAR love during/after 9. And THAT's saying something! :ascared
Aww, c'mon, TAR 9 was the one that recruited me in the first place! From my perspective it is where it all started. I loved BJ & Tyler! :wohoo:
And then TAR 10's cast was announced...and I was blown away. :colors
Ahhhh... but see, I have the EARLY seasons LOVE to hang onto. And regained the love in 10 as well.
TAR 9 was not what you would call a competitive season, but it was very entertaining, and it got us to know all the teams.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: topaz on September 25, 2009, 03:19:16 AM
imo...
the best seasons: 5, 9, 12, 15 and 3. :hearts:
the worst seasons: family edition, 4, 14, 1 and all-stars. (:;)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: ImANewUser on September 25, 2009, 06:01:49 AM
I miss the greats of Seasons 1, 3 & 5. Season 2, 4 & 6 are special to me. Season 4 was the first one I got hooked on. Season 2 felt SO invigorating and ignoring Jon/Vic, Season 6 was SO fun to watch. It still felt somewhat real.
Seasons 7 to 14: I liked them all, but somewhat fell apart LITERALLY at the last 10 minutes of the show. I NEED to have a good ending this season.
Ranking: (DRASTICALLY changed from the last time I ranked seasons) 3-5-1-4-2-6-8-12-10-9-11-13-14-7
Also one thing I noticed: For most people (on RFF and Sucks), you either like TAR 9 & hate TAR 10, or like TAR 10 & hate TAR 9. Same for TAR 13 & TAR 14.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: panda on September 25, 2009, 06:26:16 AM
I almost lost my TAR love during/after 9. And THAT's saying something! :ascared
I watched 9 in youtube (since I just knew this when I saw Season 12) and it made me feel sad. :(
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on September 26, 2009, 08:54:09 PM
I started with Season 9. I care more about locales than teams.
9 and 10 were pretty good route-wise. 10 had the better teams though. 11 spent too much time in South America. 12 I consider the best (a great final 3) of the most recent ones. 13 had a pretty nice route, but was marred by boring teams. 14 on the other hand had more interesting teams, but suffered from a terrible route. 15 is shaping up to be better than the last 2.
So, 12 > 10 > 9 > 13 = 14 > 11
Unfortunately, I find TAR gets a bit boring when there are less than 6 teams remaining (it's at its best with 6-8). The finales aren't as exciting as mid-season episodes, since they're always in the US and sometimes the third time does nothing, so we only get to see 2 teams compete basically.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Cocoa on September 26, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
No need to debate, I like all TARs! :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Zack. on September 29, 2009, 09:36:52 AM
Still 3 for me.
Even though Flo sucked and Ian sucked, I generally wouldn't have had an issue with any of the final 5 winning. I can't say that about any other season except maybe TAR 1 (and TAR 12 came close, but was soured by TK/Rachel).
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: perdfa on November 16, 2009, 07:40:24 AM
the amazing race 9 with eric and jeremy is THE BEST on Casting!!
jeremy is AWESOME.
so awesome it made me register to post this here!
o my god they shud hv make talk show or somthin just with jeremy alone
the jeremy show or sumthin.
he's very funny and entertaining!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 16, 2009, 09:06:58 AM
the amazing race 9 with eric and jeremy is THE BEST on Casting!!
jeremy is AWESOME.
so awesome it made me register to post this here!
o my god they shud hv make talk show or somthin just with jeremy alone
the jeremy show or sumthin.
he's very funny and entertaining!
Glad that Eric/Jeremy have such a big fan. :funny:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on November 16, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
I loved TAR6 task-wise, butcast-wise, we got left with too many bickering/boring/forgettable teams in the end. I think the best combo would be to use the current casting team and the task designers from pre-7
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2009, 07:21:57 PM
:welcome: to RFF perdfa!! :waves:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: perdfa on November 17, 2009, 10:08:16 AM
yah.
jeremy! big fan, and add to that im a guy, not gay, hv a girlfriend, and live in japan.
lol
o man, why they dnt make tv show where jeremy just speak and speak and speak.
haha
anyway, big easy's way of talking is also entertaining, bt i think they hv a rlly small airtime compare to the gay brother... too bad.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 17, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
I loved TAR6 task-wise, butcast-wise, we got left with too many bickering/boring/forgettable teams in the end. I think the best combo would be to use the current casting team and the task designers from pre-7
But aren't Charla/Mirna, Colin/Christie, Oswald/Danny, Joe/Bill, Linda/Karen and the most epic one of all.. FLOOOOOOO, all pre-7 cast? :funny:
There ain't any more memorable cast after season 7 than pre season 7 IMO? Dustin/Kandice, Lyn/Karlyn, Ronald/Christina, Kynt/Vyxsin, Tammy/Victor, Cara/Jaime and Margie/Luke...?
Anyway, i personally love TAR 3 (the very first season that got me hooked on), TAR 5 (72,000 miles???!?!), TAR 7 (not the cast, but the season as a whole), TAR 8 (Yes, it was exceptionally good for me.. because i'm not from the USA and i loved seeing the USA so much more), TAR 10 (bad winners though), TAR 12 (first time ever my pre-season picks won first and second) and TAR 14 (Tammy and Victor!).
The worst season for me was TAR 9 hands down. At one point i got so sick of Eric and Jeremy and BJ and Tyler i actually stopped watching the show until Fran and Barry finally won a leg. But then to have them eliminated next destroyed the season for me.. and i started rooting for MoJo, and they were eliminated next.. and rooted for RaYo, and they came in third. That season was pure discomfort and disappointment for me, especially my least fave team won. T_T
:funny:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2009, 01:02:56 PM
I'm a huge fan of Eric's perdfa and think Jeremy is a riot, they are awesome racers. Not to make excuses for Eric but, in his season 9 he was ill on the last few legs Alaska to the USA and I really think it effected his judgment on the flag task, no help from Jeremy of course :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Neobie on November 17, 2009, 02:12:23 PM
Well I'd usually judge a route by its diversity and epicness. On the count of epicness, let's list the landmarks I've heard of since I was 5...
TAR 1: Eiffel Tower, the Sahara, Coliseum, Taj Mahal, Great Wall of China TAR 2: Cristo Redemptor, the Amazon, Bangkok floating markets, Sydney Opera House, Golden Gate Bridge Don't know how famous Hong Kong's skyscrapers are in the rest of the world, so I'd leave that out here. TAR 4: Venice TAR 5: Pyramids TAR 6: Terracotta army in Xian TAR 8: Grand Canyon TAR 9: St Basil's Cathedral, Mount Fuji TAR 13: Angkor Wat Wallpaper in various seasons: Big Ben, Statue of Liberty, Macchu Picchu, Niagara Falls Not yet visited: Stonehenge, Acropolis, Easter Island, Torii of Itsukushima, Nazca Lines, Tower of Pisa
So they've kind of used up much of the world's epicness in the first two seasons, and have completely dropped it since the double-digit seasons. Route-wise, the first two seasons were definitely the best.
Edited to put Niagara in its place. Thanks Caelestor!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 17, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
Well I'd usually judge a route by its diversity and epicness. On the count of epicness, let's list the landmarks I've heard of since I was 5...
TAR 1: Eiffel Tower, the Sahara, Coliseum, Taj Mahal, Great Wall of China TAR 2: Cristo Redemptor, the Amazon, Bangkok floating markets, Syndey Opera House, Golden Gate Bridge TAR 4: Venice TAR 5: Pyramids TAR 6: Terracotta army in Xian TAR 7: Big Ben (background) TAR 8: Statue of Liberty (background), Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls TAR 9: St Basil's Cathedral TAR 13: Angkor Wat Not yet visited: Stonehenge, Acropolis, Easter Island, Torii of Itsukushima, Macchu Picchu, Nazca Lines
So they've kind of used up much of the world's epicness in the first two seasons, and have completely dropped it since the double-digit seasons. (Don't forget TAR 13's best leg in Cambodia!) Route-wise, the first two seasons were definitely the best.
There are only so many landmarks in the world (some not in that list you've mentioned). :neener: I don't need landmarks if I get culture (which unfortunately has been put aside lately).
We definitely need a return trip to Peru, Britain, Greece, and definitely anywhere in Africa though.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on November 18, 2009, 12:44:12 AM
I loved TAR6 task-wise, butcast-wise, we got left with too many bickering/boring/forgettable teams in the end. I think the best combo would be to use the current casting team and the task designers from pre-7
But aren't Charla/Mirna, Colin/Christie, Oswald/Danny, Joe/Bill, Linda/Karen and the most epic one of all.. FLOOOOOOO, all pre-7 cast? :funny:
There ain't any more memorable cast after season 7 than pre season 7 IMO? Dustin/Kandice, Lyn/Karlyn, Ronald/Christina, Kynt/Vyxsin, Tammy/Victor, Cara/Jaime and Margie/Luke...?
Anyway, i personally love TAR 3 (the very first season that got me hooked on), TAR 5 (72,000 miles???!?!), TAR 7 (not the cast, but the season as a whole), TAR 8 (Yes, it was exceptionally good for me.. because i'm not from the USA and i loved seeing the USA so much more), TAR 10 (bad winners though), TAR 12 (first time ever my pre-season picks won first and second) and TAR 14 (Tammy and Victor!).
The worst season for me was TAR 9 hands down. At one point i got so sick of Eric and Jeremy and BJ and Tyler i actually stopped watching the show until Fran and Barry finally won a leg. But then to have them eliminated next destroyed the season for me.. and i started rooting for MoJo, and they were eliminated next.. and rooted for RaYo, and they came in third. That season was pure discomfort and disappointment for me, especially my least fave team won. T_T
:funny:
Aww, I LOVED BJ & Tyler! They got me hooked on TAR! (I can just tell already that this will be a controversial comment.) The other three teams were boring (which is ironic for me because now I always end up loving the "boring" teams because they always get ignored).
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DavidJunior on November 18, 2009, 01:55:51 AM
If I had to rate the seasons:
#1: TAR 14: Loved the cast, and it was the first time I didn't mind the winners, but could've built a better route #2: TAR 12: Again, another great casting, phenomenal route, but I didn't like the winners all too much... #3: TAR 3: Another great casting with awesome route, but I HATED the winning team. Flo = </3 #4: TAR 1: Probably the best route to date, you can't really duplicate a route like that now, unless you literally duplicate it (please don't...), and even though the teams seemed a little boring at times, it was a phenomenal start to an amazing series. #5: TAR 2: Another great race route, with some pretty good teams, and the final run to the mat was epic #6: TAR 5: Absolutely stellar route in terms of the amount of travel that took place, but my least favorite team that season ended up winning... :P #7: TAR 10: Route was awesome, casting was amazing, but got bored after Madagascar, when the last of the good cast went out the door #8: TAR 7: Hated this route the most (to me, it doesn't count as a real "race around the world" if they didn't actually go around it...), but a good team won, and it was semi-entertaining throughout... #9: TAR 4: Boring cast, horrible winners, and the route seemed like it was trying to hard to be a "good mix" of the first 3 seasons' routes #10: TAR 13: Loved the route, unfortunately it was completely ruined by potentially one of the worst casts ever to "grace" the amazing race stage, on top of that, there was almost absolutely no competition, at all #11: TAR 11: If it wasn't for the 20-something legs in South America, I would classify it as a good route. But, again, another boring cast, plus I have a personal hate for this season because one of my all time favorite teams was eliminated first </33333 #12: TAR 6: Good route overall, but literally every boring team made it far, and the teams that had potential to be entertaining were out within the first three legs. The fact that Johnathan/Victoria were on this season doesn't help it's case much either #13: TAR 9: The route was alright, but it felt like there was a little too much jumping back and forth. This was also the epitome of the alpha male teams totally dominating a season (kind of like season 15 now...). #14: TAR 8: I absolutely HATE this season with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns!!! Casting families </3333, nearly all U.S.A. race route </3333, totally ignoring the West Coast </3333, reminding me of family road trips </3333. Horrible, horrible season in my opinion. Never do it again, ever!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 18, 2009, 04:40:18 AM
I loved the fact that many people loved TAR 12 even if it was the shortest season (in terms of episodes) and that a boring team won. :funny:
But frankly speaking, TK and Rachel ain't that bad right?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: ImANewUser on November 18, 2009, 04:52:38 AM
I loved the fact that many people loved TAR 12 even if it was the shortest season (in terms of episodes) and that a boring team won. :funny:
But frankly speaking, TK and Rachel ain't that bad right?
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 18, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
TAR 12 was the last season that had the classic TAR style. The route is very much like TAR 3 and TAR 6. It was also the last season IIRC to have a designated "villain" team. Plus, all the boring teams were eliminated early, and I hated none of the Final 3 (Though the hippies shouldn't have won IMO).
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on November 18, 2009, 12:09:46 PM
I loved the fact that many people loved TAR 12 even if it was the shortest season (in terms of episodes) and that a boring team won. :funny:
But frankly speaking, TK and Rachel ain't that bad right?
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
I think TAR12 had a really great cast mix, but it would've been better had Nick/Don or Ron/Chris won. TK & Rachel were just OK.
And is it just me or does anybody else thing TAR7 was a repeat of TAR5?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DavidJunior on November 18, 2009, 01:29:59 PM
I loved the fact that many people loved TAR 12 even if it was the shortest season (in terms of episodes) and that a boring team won. :funny:
But frankly speaking, TK and Rachel ain't that bad right?
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
I think TAR12 had a really great cast mix, but it would've been better had Nick/Don or Ron/Chris won. TK & Rachel were just OK.
And is it just me or does anybody else thing TAR7 was a repeat of TAR5?
come to think of it, the final 3 were really too similar in comparison : The married African-American couple who really needed the money ended up winning The strongest team of the season coming up just short and then the boring third place team not even being that much of a factor in the end after all...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: theschnauzers on November 18, 2009, 01:33:35 PM
I still hold TAR Classic (season one, of course) in the highest regard. I've said (elsewhere) that that first season was a perfect combination of teams, locations, tasks and story that no subsequent season has ever been able to match. One could not have done any better if it had been scripted.
The confrontation at the Tunis airport. The first leg. Immortal lines such as "It's Namibia, jackass!" Teams getting lost in the Sahara. "For two years, we lived in Paris." The final fast forward between Team Guido and Momily. The confusion that is India. Momily's decision to quit the detour in Bangkok. The final confrontation between Team Guido and the original Frats. The race to the finish between Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita. "I did it with my best friend." And the Guido edit.
No other season has quite managed to have so many memorable moments and personalities in so many different ways. :hearts:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: ImANewUser on November 18, 2009, 09:00:45 PM
I loved the fact that many people loved TAR 12 even if it was the shortest season (in terms of episodes) and that a boring team won. :funny:
But frankly speaking, TK and Rachel ain't that bad right?
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
I think TAR12 had a really great cast mix, but it would've been better had Nick/Don or Ron/Chris won. TK & Rachel were just OK.
And is it just me or does anybody else thing TAR7 was a repeat of TAR5?
come to think of it, the final 3 were really too similar in comparison : The married African-American couple who really needed the money ended up winning The strongest team of the season coming up just short and then the boring third place team not even being that much of a factor in the end after all...
Add to that: a) a Los Angeles area start b) two Argentina legs (both consisting of one in Buenos Aires and some nearby town & one near the Chilean border that featured a Yield [granted it appeared in every leg for Season 5, but still], an eating Roadblock [chocolate & meat] and a transportation choice Detour [Smooth Sailing/Rough Riding & Paddle/Pedal] I might add) c) Legs 5, 6 & 7 in Africa (one country hosting two legs for both seasons) d) a planned Istanbul leg (moved to Dubai [source is Wikipedia - could be true or not] for TAR5, Leg 9 for TAR7) e) a head-shaving FF in India f) a visit to one more North American country before going back to the USA (Canada for TAR5, Jamaica for TAR7) g) stunt casting (Alison for TAR5, Rob/Amber/Brian for TAR7) h) fourth place team that finished last on a Leg 5 NEL and managed a second place (both their highest placing in-race) before finishing in 4th
And we have a (badly-done) repeat of TAR5. :funny:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on November 18, 2009, 10:38:17 PM
Robbing 10 potentially more epic teams = bad, but having 10 potentially epic teams + early season-esque route pulled it up. BIG TIME. So TK/Rachel are either hated on for said reason, or forgotten because there were bad winners in bad seasons. :funny:
TAR 12 was the last season that had the classic TAR style. The route is very much like TAR 3 and TAR 6. It was also the last season IIRC to have a designated "villain" team. Plus, all the boring teams were eliminated early, and I hated none of the Final 3 (Though the hippies shouldn't have won IMO).
I very much disagree. In my opinion all trace of "classic TAR" (if I, never having watched the first or second seasons, even know what that means) went out the door after All-Stars. The shortening of the route, the casting of too many people from LA (what was up with that?), and various other terrible new ideas (including the pretend elimination of non-eliminations, and U-turns with no priority numbers), and controls of teams (like making it impossible for teams to be apart from each other) made this season somewhat obnoxious and grating. It went to some great locations, though, but the legs were too short. The race has sadly still not recovered from this (but TAR 14 came close). The winning team was egh. Sadly, now I go back and watch it feeling like it is classic, just because things are so much worse now. Who knew the editing would be so good at spoiling and that some teams would be totally ignored? :groan:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on November 18, 2009, 10:58:36 PM
I still hold TAR Classic (season one, of course) in the highest regard. I've said (elsewhere) that that first season was a perfect combination of teams, locations, tasks and story that no subsequent season has ever been able to match. One could not have done any better if it had been scripted.
The confrontation at the Tunis airport. The first leg. Immortal lines such as "It's Namibia, jackass!" Teams getting lost in the Sahara. "For two years, we lived in Paris." The final fast forward between Team Guido and Momily. The confusion that is India. Momily's decision to quit the detour in Bangkok. The final confrontation between Team Guido and the original Frats. The race to the finish between Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita. "I did it with my best friend." And the Guido edit.
No other season has quite managed to have so many memorable moments and personalities in so many different ways. :hearts:
The main problem I have with season one is the greeter at each mat. I hated that idea, and am so glad that Phil replaced them for every other season. Just can't state how much I hated that.
But the points about the episodes, there is just something about that season (and its not my favorite cast, nor my favorite route, nor my favorite tasks) that just is so fresh.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on November 18, 2009, 11:10:18 PM
Hooky
I do agree (and I still blame budgeting for 2 of these huge factors) the casting being so much more limited then what was previously done. And the with the shortening of the season the production really kept a much stronger hold of the cast, both in driving (when they did do it) to flights.
Now I can understand some of that as All Stars suffered the worse flight scheduling problems of any season (and I am quite sure production made sure that would never happen again).
But you lose something with that. You lose the increased stress that provides on teams and thats drama. Drama doesn't have to be team rivals, or fighting couples. It can be teams having to deal with situations completely out of there control. I know they weren't popular, But I loved seeing Eric & Danielle struggle for so many legs when they didn't make any mistakes, where they did what they were supposed to (and three of those legs where they finished so far behind they were actually 1st and 2nd fastest in performing that actual tasks of the legs). That was certainly more enjoyable then them bickering with each other (or for that matter most teams that argue with each other). Now it seems the closest we get to drama like that is when teams make serious errors, things they were in control over, or had some say it. And frankly, that isn't as dramatic to me.
Now I am not saying that I loved All Stars (I didn't, as about half of the cast didn't seem "All Star" to me and I wasn't the biggest fan of the route or tasks. But after that TAR did change, and I don't think its a change they wanted to make.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 18, 2009, 11:32:41 PM
After watching a few of the early seasons, I'm going to say the problems began after TAR 5. TAR 6: Weak casting (Decline) TAR 7: Weird Route + Stunt-casting Decline) TAR 8: The Entire Concept (The bottom of all TARs) TAR 9: Alpha-Male domination (Still a slight improvement) TAR 10: Improvement -- Nice route and exciting teams TAR 11: Weak route + questionable "All-Star" teams (Decline)
Then CBS reduced the episode order per season from 13 to 11! (How dare they!) Even worse, the 2007-2008 season only had one season of TAR!
TAR 12: Good route, but weak casting (Wasn't a terrible season) TAR 13: Weak casting (Decline) TAR 14: Weak Route + Downgrading of tasks (The cast and some nostalgia made this season memorable) TAR 15: Weak Cast + Bunching + Downgrading of tasks (Just like TAR 13)
My opinion is that TAR should not visit the same place twice unless they can make an even better leg (Example: TAR 9 Tokyo vs. TAR 15 Tokyo). If you're going to stay in the same city for two legs, just make it a TBC and spare us the NEL penalty debate.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on November 19, 2009, 01:07:02 AM
I still hold TAR Classic (season one, of course) in the highest regard. I've said (elsewhere) that that first season was a perfect combination of teams, locations, tasks and story that no subsequent season has ever been able to match. One could not have done any better if it had been scripted.
The confrontation at the Tunis airport. The first leg. Immortal lines such as "It's Namibia, jackass!" Teams getting lost in the Sahara. "For two years, we lived in Paris." The final fast forward between Team Guido and Momily. The confusion that is India. Momily's decision to quit the detour in Bangkok. The final confrontation between Team Guido and the original Frats. The race to the finish between Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita. "I did it with my best friend." And the Guido edit.
No other season has quite managed to have so many memorable moments and personalities in so many different ways. :hearts:
You forgot "a toast to evil!" :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: perdfa on November 19, 2009, 04:10:20 AM
can someone tell me what's the meaning of the episode has been reduced from 26 to 11...?
i thought evry season just hv 11/12 eps per season...
and what does it mean by the shortening of the course...?
i thought evry leg hv roadblock, detour, and pretty much thats it...?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 19, 2009, 06:30:12 AM
If TAR has to visit more third world countries so as to save on budget, go ahead! Just keep the tasks ideas fresh, cultural and fun! :D
And i agree that they need to stop visiting the same place twice within like a time period of 5 seasons? *hint* *hint* SINGAPORE has not been visited for 12 seasons already. :funny:
TAR 3 is still the best IMO. (You all know why... 15 - 12 = TAR 3) :hearts:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: ImANewUser on November 19, 2009, 07:53:40 AM
If TAR has to visit more third world countries so as to save on budget, go ahead! Just keep the tasks ideas fresh, cultural and fun! :D
And i agree that they need to stop visiting the same place twice within like a time period of 5 seasons? *hint* *hint* SINGAPORE has not been visited for 12 seasons already. :funny:
TAR 3 is still the best IMO. (You all know why... 15 - 12 = TAR 3) :hearts:
I just agreed with everything you said. :funny: Season 3 <3333333
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on November 19, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
can someone tell me what's the meaning of the episode has been reduced from 26 to 11...?
i thought evry season just hv 11/12 eps per season...
and what does it mean by the shortening of the course...?
i thought evry leg hv roadblock, detour, and pretty much thats it...?
I don't know what the 26 episodes idea is all about, perhaps Caelestor could clarify...?
But when I was discussing the shortening of the course, I meant a combination of the decline in total miles traveled per race (from an average of about 40,000 in pre-TAR 12, to the current 25,000-ish of TAR 15), the shortening of the number of legs in each race (12/13 to 11), the shortening of the number of Route Markers in each leg (since TAR 12, most legs have only visited the location of the Roadblock and Detour, with very few plain clueboxes that just lead teams to another destination), and the shortening of the distance teams have to travel in each leg (Remember the multiple hour drives and train rides? What happened to those?). All of these changes took place in Season 12 and haven't been undone since then. :groan:
I know - a very convoluted sentence. Hopefully it makes sense. :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 19, 2009, 05:01:14 PM
I don't know what the 26 episodes idea is all about, perhaps Caelestor could clarify...? Clarified.
But when I was discussing the shortening of the course, I meant a combination of the decline in total miles traveled per race (from an average of about 40,000 in pre-TAR 12, to the current 25,000-ish of TAR 15), the shortening of the number of legs in each race (12/13 to 11), the shortening of the number of Route Markers in each leg (since TAR 12, most legs have only visited the location of the Roadblock and Detour, with very few plain clueboxes that just lead teams to another destination), and the shortening of the distance teams have to travel in each leg (Remember the multiple hour drives and train rides? What happened to those?). All of these changes took place in Season 12 and haven't been undone since then. :groan:
I know - a very convoluted sentence. Hopefully it makes sense. :tup:
The leg design is first on the fix list. What happened to interaction with the locals? The miscellaneous task? A short but epic 11-episode season is still better than a mediocre one with 13 legs. Even the "clues" occasionally given need to be slightly challenging.
The easiest thing TPTB can do is to stop visiting amusement parks that I can find here.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on November 20, 2009, 07:06:31 PM
I don't know what the 26 episodes idea is all about, perhaps Caelestor could clarify...? Clarified.
But when I was discussing the shortening of the course, I meant a combination of the decline in total miles traveled per race (from an average of about 40,000 in pre-TAR 12, to the current 25,000-ish of TAR 15), the shortening of the number of legs in each race (12/13 to 11), the shortening of the number of Route Markers in each leg (since TAR 12, most legs have only visited the location of the Roadblock and Detour, with very few plain clueboxes that just lead teams to another destination), and the shortening of the distance teams have to travel in each leg (Remember the multiple hour drives and train rides? What happened to those?). All of these changes took place in Season 12 and haven't been undone since then. :groan:
I know - a very convoluted sentence. Hopefully it makes sense. :tup:
The leg design is first on the fix list. What happened to interaction with the locals? The miscellaneous task? A short but epic 11-episode season is still better than a mediocre one with 13 legs. Even the "clues" occasionally given need to be slightly challenging.
The easiest thing TPTB can do is to stop visiting amusement parks that I can find here.
maybe once the recession is over
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Cocoa on November 20, 2009, 11:21:17 PM
I don't know what the 26 episodes idea is all about, perhaps Caelestor could clarify...? Clarified.
But when I was discussing the shortening of the course, I meant a combination of the decline in total miles traveled per race (from an average of about 40,000 in pre-TAR 12, to the current 25,000-ish of TAR 15), the shortening of the number of legs in each race (12/13 to 11), the shortening of the number of Route Markers in each leg (since TAR 12, most legs have only visited the location of the Roadblock and Detour, with very few plain clueboxes that just lead teams to another destination), and the shortening of the distance teams have to travel in each leg (Remember the multiple hour drives and train rides? What happened to those?). All of these changes took place in Season 12 and haven't been undone since then. :groan:
I know - a very convoluted sentence. Hopefully it makes sense. :tup:
The leg design is first on the fix list. What happened to interaction with the locals? The miscellaneous task? A short but epic 11-episode season is still better than a mediocre one with 13 legs. Even the "clues" occasionally given need to be slightly challenging.
The easiest thing TPTB can do is to stop visiting amusement parks that I can find here.
maybe once the recession is over
... and Im afraid, when will the recession be over? 2012? (End of the World?) :'( And Oprah's closure in 2011 might affect TAR big-time :'(
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: perdfa on November 21, 2009, 07:20:09 AM
i watched tar backwards in order of what's most popular from this forum, (started watching since 12, now already watched 11, and 9 too.)
many ppl favor season 6. ive just watched 3 eps of it. ep 1, the hay bales, and the one whr john pushed victoria,
i dnt understand how culd u guys stand lori and bolo and john and vic bickering at each other evry single second they have airtime....
also the same with season 14. i cant stand the way ron talking to christina... and thats pretty much it for me.
for me good season is like season 9 or 15 to some degree, and 11 because of eric.
in season 11, eric and danielle gt screwed over and over, bt they got pissed bt jst moderately, keep their calm and rarely raised their voice whn talking to other teams. regardless of the content. like whn they wanted to throw ozzy and danny off the roof or sumthin.
but they way they didnt raised their voice, and didnt lose their calm (eric) shows some degree of maturity, and for me, that's good tv.
and thats why season 9 is particularly interesting for me cuz eric and jeremy and bj and tyler rarely bickered.
and abt the alpha-male domination of season 9, they dominate because they are smart.
eric and jeremy dominated cuz they cn get to the destination effectively and so they dont lose their time-lead they hv, good at spotting clue box and wht not
as shown in season 11 tho eric and danielle is always at the back, they over and over again made comeback by finishing tasks fast and get to the next destination fairly quickly, proven that they can catch up with other teams tho theyre still finished behind, bt seeing how screwed they were, their resilient is a proof that eric and danielle is good.
so the alpha male domination, its because they're good, and for me its more entertaining than seeing say rebecca putting gas on diesel car or lake shouted to michelle.
also season 15 flight time and big easy are alpha male, bt they're not always in the front of the pack... particularly in dubai.
oh i missed watching eric and jeremy got another chance to race together again, maybe in TAR all star 2, but maybe that will just be a wishful thinking.
anyone hv news abt the possibility of TAR all star 2?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
Can't find it now, but I believe either BVM or Phil has said that another AllStars is unlikely...that the format works best with NEW teams.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
I don't think there really have been an obvious Alpha Male team since Tyler and James. The closest team since them is Nick and Starr, who absolutely dominated in a terribly boring season.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 21, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
Not to sound like apskip, but what would Oprah's leaving have to do with TAR? She's nothing to with the show.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 21, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
which suggests that CBS as the distributer will lose $$$ when Oprah goes off the air.
More discussion in the above topic re this would be interesting.
I am not sure that it correlates in ref to TAR, , but less $$ for CBS can never be a good thing.
oops!! GMTA Joab!! :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Another point is that the expense of handling the distribution rights for a replacement program will also be less than it has been for Oprah's show. Harpo Productions already has two other shows being handled by CBS, and I would venture a guess that something else will be brought along as well.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: ImANewUser on November 21, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
I don't think there really have been an obvious Alpha Male team since Tyler and James. The closest team since them is Nick and Starr, who absolutely dominated in a terribly boring season.
Flight Time & Big Easy/Sam & Dan? :funny:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Hooky on November 21, 2009, 11:04:55 PM
I just realized something: this thread is exactly as old as I am (my account, that is). I posted this the day I registered.
That was an amazing day. :colors
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
I think it took me about 4 months to get up the nerve to start a new thread. :lol3:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on November 22, 2009, 07:53:09 AM
I think it took me about 4 months to get up the nerve to start a new thread. :lol3:
But I think it took you less than 4 months to reach many many many, countless posts? :funny: :hearts:
EDIT: Off-topic again, bleargh. :lol:
Does anyone agree with Phil that TAR 1,3,5,7 and 14 has a magic to it and is very different from the others? I completely agree with him!
I don't either. I certainly didn't feel that way about 5 or 14. I did get that vibe from 7 and 9, however.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on November 22, 2009, 12:23:29 PM
The early seasons deftly combined game show with travel documentary. Especially noticeable in TAR 1 with the leisurely pace and the little background music. Now, it's just a game show around the world.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: slayton on November 22, 2009, 05:25:21 PM
Does anyone agree with Phil that TAR 1,3,5,7 and 14 has a magic to it and is very different from the others? I completely agree with him!
I don't always agree with Phil, especially concerning teams, but I definitely agree with him about favorite seasons.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: theschnauzers on November 23, 2009, 12:09:53 AM
I agree with Phil with the ones other than 7. I wasn't happy with the unfair stunt casting of Rob abd Amber, since the other teams that season didn't have the advantage Rob had of being identified by viewers all around the world due to his then recent Survivor appearances, which no other team had.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy on February 27, 2010, 01:38:17 AM
As a huge fan, (or was) I judge Seasons 5 and 6 to be the best, followed by Seasons 3, 7 and 9 respectively. Before I begin, I reckon the show lost it's charm around Season 11 (All-Stars). Every season thereafter has been terribly flawed and just.. different.
Best seasons (my opinion):
Season 5 -- Awesome & memorable teams such as Chip & Kim, Kami & Karli, Jim & Marsha, The Bowling Moms, Colin & Christie, Charla & Mirna and especially Brandon & Nikki. This season also introduced the Yield along with a new non-elimination penalty as well as a decreased number of Fast Forwards (X2). The suspense was high, wonderful times, hilarious moments such as Colin almost being thrown in jail, Taxi problems, wicked task design (Chocolate task in Argentina, Dogs or Tango Detour, Egypt archeology, strolling along the Auckland harbor bridge, the Ox challenge in Manila, the Dubai tasks etc) Marshall & Lance quitting the race, and much more. They visited sensational locations (Despite no Europe if you forget the visit to Russia) like southern Argentina, Uruguay, Egypt, Tanzania, Dubai and Auckland, NZ (My city & country). Extremely hilarious watching the taxi drivers rip off a few of the contestants this season, which also featured heavily during Season 6. Lastly, Chip & Kim winning -- all I'll say to that, they deserved it. Excellent edition and a large improvement over the previous season.
Season 6 -- My favorite season. It is rather similar in many aspects to the season both before and directly after this one. A nice selection of teams through Kris & Jon, Hayden & Aaron, Lena & Kristy, Gus & Hera, Lori & Bolo (pro-wrestlers) and the bickering Jonathan & Victoria. I disagree with people when they state the high annoyances from the cast this season, but found the bickering to be nothing but hilarious. There are various flaws; the first two teams to go out were terrible, and Kendra could very well be the most awful winner of the race to date... Kris & Jon should have won. However, I can't argue that I've never watched an Amazing Race season with as amazing locations as this; Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Hungary, Corsica, Sri Lanka, Shanghai and Xian. Also, this edition contained the most suspense: Non-elimination legs were greatly placed, it was the first season with a double-length-leg brought up out of no purpose at all, 3 Yields, 2 Fast Forwards, and I can say it was the most entertaining edition of the race to date. I also judged TAR 6 to have the best task design through examples like, all Roadblocks and Detours on the Scandinavian legs (the hay bales, Count It Or Build It, Endurance & Accuracy, Tree Trunks or Elephant Trucks and the locks task in Xian, China). So many great aspects this season.
Worst seasons were 4, 8, 13 and 14.
And now my best to worst ranking:
6-5-3-7-9-10-12-15-2-1-4-11-13-8-14
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Sailing on February 27, 2010, 03:13:08 AM
My favorite seasons were 5 and 11 (All-Stars) because of Charla & Mirna. I love those two. Is there a thread were I can find any updates about what they have been up to? TIA
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on February 27, 2010, 02:07:19 PM
Does anyone agree with Phil that TAR 1,3,5,7 and 14 has a magic to it and is very different from the others? I completely agree with him!
I don't always agree with Phil, especially concerning teams, but I definitely agree with him about favorite seasons.
Take away 14 and I agree. The race began to really drag in Thailand.
Take away 14 because the teams that made it to the end were grossly overrated right from the start, robbing attention from the first four eliminated teams (two of which were very likable). And yes, the task and course design also went downhill after Leg 6 or so.
In hindsight, I'm beginning to think that TAR 15 wasn't really that great. Yes, the editing balance drastically improved, but the tasks were lousy and stereotypical overall. And although I like Meghan & Cheyne and Brian & Ericka, I got tired of them when we reached the F4 or so.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: slayton on March 03, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
I still hold TAR Classic (season one, of course) in the highest regard. I've said (elsewhere) that that first season was a perfect combination of teams, locations, tasks and story that no subsequent season has ever been able to match. One could not have done any better if it had been scripted.
The confrontation at the Tunis airport. The first leg. Immortal lines such as "It's Namibia, jackass!" Teams getting lost in the Sahara. "For two years, we lived in Paris." The final fast forward between Team Guido and Momily. The confusion that is India. Momily's decision to quit the detour in Bangkok. The final confrontation between Team Guido and the original Frats. The race to the finish between Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita. "I did it with my best friend." And the Guido edit.
No other season has quite managed to have so many memorable moments and personalities in so many different ways. :hearts:
I'll add some of my memorable moments from season 1:
Lenny lying to Karyn at the Eiffel Tower.
Karyn basically dumping Lenny on the mat after their elimination.
Nancy & Emily being denied train tickets in India.
Having watched the show from the very first CBS broadcast, I think it matters a lot when someone started watching the show, whether they watched it weekly or in a marathon, how old they were, and why they liked the show in the first place.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: nathandg0924 on March 04, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Can't decide but I'll say Seasons 5, 6, 10, 11, 14
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on March 04, 2010, 02:30:05 AM
Ranking the seasons that I have completed, best to worst:
3-5-12-9-7-10-14-11-15-13
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy on March 04, 2010, 03:34:05 AM
Well, personally, I've never seen a season as great as 5 and 6 to be honest. Loved both seasons, while 7 is overrated (but still quite good), 3 and 9 are my next favs in the list. Seasons 8, 13 and 14 were the worst, and Season 16, based on what I've seen so far will probably join the worst bunch.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: misterblah on December 27, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Seasons 5, 11, 14, 15, and 17 were my favourites! :cmas9 Seasons 4, 6, 7, 9, 12 amd 16 were okay. :cmas30: Season 13 was the worst. :cmas12 I didn't watch other seasons esp. Family Edition ugh.
Here's my viewpoints:
Season 5- Third fav. Lots of good memorable teams but a boring final three. However the race locations are one of the best to date. Loved Colin almost going to jail and the ox task, Kami & Karli making stupid mistakes and usually finishing second to last, charla and mirna's tearful goodbye in Tanzania, zorbing, looking for scarabs, racers getting sick at caviar roadblock, phillipines climbing task, plus the argentina chocolate task and the burj al arab clue in dubai
Season 6-Loved the close finish b/t Kris and Jon and Freddy and Kendra, however Kris and Jon should've won. Stupid train. Lot of suspense and locations were awsome. Final three weren't really dynamic.
Season 7-Teams were great, though most of my favs all got eliminated before final three. Locations weren't all that good. Loved the first leg tasks, hard meat roadblock in leg 3 and the tasks in africa and turkey.
Season 9-Teams were okay but it was boring to watch BJ and Tyler and Eric and Jeremy always finishing in top two. But the flags finale task was cool. Cool places.
Season 11- Second fav. Race locations were a bit boring at first but got more exotic towards the end. I liked how any of the final three teams could've won the race. Finale was awesome. Loved the taxi flipout in Chile, the showdown b/t Charla & Mirna and Romber, Charla and Mirna going from 7th to 1st, the solemn momeent at the Poland concentration camp and the Malaysian and Guam tasks.
Season 12-Best locations during the middle of the race. Teams overall pretty likable. Liked watching teams struggle at the donkey task, Donald vaulting, teams struggling at camel milking task, 5 teams arriving at the same time in leg 3, and lithuania, croatia, italy, japan and taiwan tasks. Hilarious to see Nathan and Jennier never coming in 2nd several times, minutes/second away from 1st place finish.
Season 13-worst season to date. Locations were bad, teams boring, plus it was obvious who would win the race. Terrence and Sarah and Toni and Dallas were memorable teams though.
Season 14- fav. season, all the teams were memorable and likable. That said, any one on TAR 14 deserved to win. Locations were great though I wanted some African legs visited. Final 3 were dynamic and the finale kept me guessing who would win until the last moment. Memorable moments included flight attendants beating Preston and Jennifer to the mat for 10th place, the pie-throwing detour task, Tammy and Victor fighting, racers running in their underwear, Jaime and Cara finding their taxi, the India pit-stop greeter, Kisha sneezing, Margie and Luke and Kisha and Jen fighting and Jaime and Cara beating Kisha and Jen because Jen had to pee for a spot in the final three. Pretty much all the tasks were amazing.
Season 15-Loved watching drama between poker players and all teams, Mika refusing to go down the water slide, all of Dubai, Estonia and Czech republic tasks, the wasabi game, Zev and Justin losing their passports, the brothers beating the globetrotters in leg 9, globetrotters quitting roadblock, team zebra dropping their beer glasses amidst drunk Czechs and teams freezing their butts off at the kyrocentrum. Overall, great locations and teams.
Season 16-I loved the Brent and Caite and lesbian feud, tower/terra detour, seychelles, malaysia, singapore and china tasks. Top 3 teams were boring though I rooted for Dan and Jordan all the way and they won! Jet and Cord were great too.
Season 17-Best moments: First all-female team wins the amazing race, watermelon smash on Claire, the locals fooling around trying on sunglasses in Ghana, Kevin comforting his father during the bicycle parts detour, Chad and Stephanie getting engaged in Oman, the food roadblock in HK and the finale tasks. Most teams were likable and I love all the final three teams.
LOL that was long hehehehe
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on December 27, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
My favourite season ever is All-Stars! I love it to bits! :cmas9 :cmas9 I love everything that misterblah said:
Season 11- Race locations were a bit boring at first but got more exotic towards the end. I liked how any of the final three teams could've won the race. Finale was awesome. Loved the taxi flipout in Chile, the showdown b/t Charla & Mirna and Romber, Charla and Mirna going from 7th to 1st, the solemn momeent at the Poland concentration camp and the Malaysian and Guam tasks.
I also liked all the Final 3 teams. I loved Charla & Mirna and was so happy when they made the Final 3 as there were moments where it seemed like they were on the brink of elimination. Season 11 is also when I first heard of Dustin & Kandice and have loved them ever since. I love how Eric & Danielle made a comeback!
In fact, I love all the teams! I love how Rob & Amber were ousted by Charla & Mirna as well! (One of my favourite moments). It was just so epic. I mean, who would have ever imagined two legendary classic teams such as Charla & Mirna and Rob & Amber would have a footrace showdown?! :cmas18
I love it so much! There is never a day when I don't hear/watch/say or do something about All-Stars. I'm bordering obsessed, lol. :cmas30: :cmas22
In fact, I wish I knew of RFF and stuff earlier so that I could have saved the now-missing exclusive Insider videos. I'm dying to watch them! :cmas4 :cmas4
The cast, route and outcome were great! The race was just epic. I also love the Macau Tower Roadblock! :cmas16 :xmas146
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: kadilahopper on December 28, 2010, 10:59:59 AM
As much as I hate semi-celebs being cast, I have to say that season 7 with Rob and Amber was my favorite. Rob rubbed everyone the wrong way, was extrememly mischievous and caused so much friction throughout the race, I tuned in each week just wondering what kind of stunt he would pull next. The casting department deserved an award for that casting season!!!!!!!!!!!! Who ever selected that cast was a genius!!!!!!!!! Drama! Unexpectability! Humor! Creativeness! Influencibility! I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! No season has compared since. Since season 7 the casting dynamics has gone downhill. The seasons now have small pockets of drama and less interactions between the teams. Today's seasons are like watching a travel channel video taping separate couples (teams) visiting a country, trying out a local custom and then continuing on a scheduled intinerary. I know that I am in the minority in this opinion, which makes this website a good forum, because all opinions are welcome. :<)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: 2old4tech on December 28, 2010, 11:48:08 AM
In fact, I wish I knew of RFF and stuff earlier so that I could have saved the now-missing exclusive Insider videos. I'm dying to watch them! :cmas4 :cmas4
Check your Personal Messages.
PM'd to protect the uploader. Peach, is the correct way?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: kiki on December 28, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
I loved: season 3 because I couldn't wait to see what Flo would do next and I was expecting Zac to kill her season 5 great locations and great cast, I love Colin, (I know, I'm crazy!) season 6 some of the best places ever to be visited season 7 I liked Rob and Amber and how every other team were against them from the beggining. After that with the Family edition the downhill started, although seasons 14 and 17 were pretty good and had something of the old times. Worst season ever, besides season 8 which was not real TAR, season 13 totally boring.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Cheesefeet on December 29, 2010, 08:57:22 AM
I just finished re watching season 3 and I had forgotten how much I hated Flo, if you are going to sign up for the amazing race and actually get on the show and then to complain like she did, it drives me crazy. In fact whenever I watch the amazing race and people start complaining like that I hate it.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2010, 03:07:11 PM
In fact, I wish I knew of RFF and stuff earlier so that I could have saved the now-missing exclusive Insider videos. I'm dying to watch them! :cmas4 :cmas4
Check your Personal Messages.
PM'd to protect the uploader. Peach, is the correct way?
Yes....and I wish you would send it to me too, to see if we have the same one. I just sent it too :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: michael on December 29, 2010, 04:02:20 PM
omg can someone send me them too?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Zvarri on December 29, 2010, 07:44:54 PM
The best: 5 7 17 12 2 3 6 11
Good: 10 1 4 13
Meh...: 9 14 15
Worst season ever: 16
Season 8 never happened.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2010, 08:26:40 PM
Kindly also add to the polls for Seasons 15, 16 and 17. Thanks!
If it's okay with the admids, I can create a secondary poll using the top choices from this one combined with the new seasons.
Hope that they can add the recent seasons so that our polls will be updated.
Unfortunately, polls cannot be removed.... I am unsure if it can be modified...but if someone wants to EMAIL me some ideas, I'll see what we can do?? Would love to see how the later seasons shape up...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DaNutzki on January 02, 2011, 06:36:38 AM
Kindly also add to the polls for Seasons 15, 16 and 17. Thanks!
If it's okay with the admids, I can create a secondary poll using the top choices from this one combined with the new seasons.
Hope that they can add the recent seasons so that our polls will be updated.
Unfortunately, polls cannot be removed.... I am unsure if it can be modified...but if someone wants to EMAIL me some ideas, I'll see what we can do?? Would love to see how the later seasons shape up...
Yeah! We will see if the 3 recent seasons can catch up the pace for the voting polls. Hope it can find a way. Thanks, Peach! :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on January 04, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
I'm just gonna say, Season 17 owns. :lol3:
NAT AND KAT!! *hyperventilates*
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
Poll Updated....you may have to start over with the votes.... :hides
Question: Which season of The Amazing Race is the best overall? Season 1 3 (4.8%) Season 2 4 (6.5%) Season 3 5 (8.1%) Season 4 0 (0%) Season 5 11 (17.7%) Season 6 5 (8.1%) Season 7 9 (14.5%) Family Edition 2 (3.2%) Season 9 1 (1.6%) Season 10 2 (3.2%) All-Stars 5 (8.1%) Season 12 3 (4.8%) Season 13 2 (3.2%) Season 14 10 (16.1%)
Total Voters: 62
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Before you start to vote again...I made this two votes...or do you want just one? :duno:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on January 04, 2011, 04:35:43 PM
it is definitly between 5, 7 and 17... really hard to choose. i choose 7, cuz im a romber and uchenna and joyce fan :hearts:
5 & 7 are also among my top 3 or 4, as is 14 (with Tammy & Victor). I chose 17 because I had rooted for Nat & Kat since they were all-female and Kat was an Asian American (I have a soft spot for Asian Americans) -- and they won!
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: StephenWasHere on January 16, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
Every season was at least good 1: Had Nancy and Emily but after they got eliminated, didn't really care 2: Have yet to finish it to make a judgement 3: Same 4: Same 5: Season 5 was probably my favorite since it was the first I watched on TV. Season 5 is probably my favorite 6: Eh...it had a funny cast but otherwise, I didn't LOVE it 7: Romber, Uchenna/Joyce, Meredith/Gretchen... if it wasn't for those 3, I'd have stopped watching the season. 8: Can't really compare since it was family. I didn't hate it honestly...it was just different was all. 9: Hippies and Nerds...nuff said 10: Kentucky FTW 11: Great besides the winners 12: Got boring after a bit.. though I lurved Kynt and Vyxsin 13: I was on team Nick/Starr and Toni/Dallas kty. 14: Bleh...Margie and Luke were great! 15: Lost most of my interest in the season after Zev/Justin's elimination 16: *Vomits* thanks Cowboys for being the only reason I still watched this trainwreck 17: Nat & Kat and Brook & Claire and Gary & Mallory made this season. Overall: My top 3 seasons are 5, 13, and 17
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Weedy Spyze on January 17, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
7 and 17.
7s rule.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DaNutzki on January 17, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
WOW!
I can't believe that Season 17 will take the lead in the polls since it was updated last time around.
Nice one for Season 17. :hearts:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on January 18, 2011, 08:23:37 AM
wow! I just finished season 5. It was amazing. The beginning was so boring, but the end so the best out of any season that I have watched. I have only watched 5, 10-17 so here is what I think of each season
5: Favorite season. I really liked Colin and Christie. They should have won. The final three was pretty much set after the first 4 episodes. The ending was upsetting because Colin and Christie had a clear advantage if they were on the same flight as everyone. They still were only like 5 minutes behind at the end. Chip and Kim ran a good race though.
10: It was average. I liked James and Tyler, but their only competition was Dustin and Kandice and Rob and Kim. This season was one of the least competitive because the Cho's, Kentucky and Alabama didn't know how to play the game.
11: I really liked Dustin and Kandice. On Season 10, I didn't like them but didn't mind them. On this season, I was rooting for them. I thought that they deserved to win. Eric and Danielle didn't even run a good race. They didn't deserve to win I still have no clue how Charla and Mirna got to the finale. It was not a strong all star season with the exception of Rob and Amber, Uchenna and Joyce and Dustin and Kandice.
12: This was one of the more boring seasons. I rooted for Kynt and Vyxsin and Nate and Jen, but I didn't enjoy the teams on this season that much. The team that won was boring. Ron and Christina's problems were boring also. It was probably the weakest final three that I can remember.
13: I like season 13. I really rooted for Star and Nick and Toni and Dallas. Andrew and Dan got a bad edit. I didn't think that they ran that bad of a race. Ken and Tina were respectable. Overall, it was a good season.
14: This was probably my second favorite season. This was the original season that I started watching. I eventually went back and watched some other seasons. Margie and Luke were my favorite team. I was rooting for them pretty hard. I hated Kisha and Jen. They are b******. Tammy and Victor were not bad. They were not the strongest team to win, but not the weakest. I thought Margie and Luke had won, until Luke messed up on the last task.
15: This season was slightly below average. My favorite team was the Globetrotters. I thought that the cast on this season was very weak. Sam and Dan, Meghan and Cheyne, and FT and BE were the only teams that were competitive. I hated Ericka. Her temper tantrums were unneeded and unnecessary. Overall, Meghan and Cheyne definitely were the strongest team, and deserved to win. Although, I thought FT and BE should have been in the final three in place of Brian and Ericka.
16: Jet and Cord were my favorite team by far. They were possibly the best competitors ever on the amazing race. Steve and Allie and Joe and Heidi were eliminated to early. Louie and Michael should have been in the final three in place of Brent and Caite. I hated Carol and Brandy. They didn't need to react the way they did when they were U-turned. Overall, Dan and Jordan were not the strongest team physically but really stepped up their game in the finale. They deserved the win.
17: Unlike most people, I didn't enjoy this season that much. The only two teams that I didn't like were Chad and Stephanie and Nick and Vicki. I didn't really have a favorite until the end. I wanted Brook and Claire to win, but Nat and Kat were very deserving winners.
The order of my favorite seasons are 5,14,13,11,10,16,15,17,12. Those are the only seasons that I have watched. I started season 3 and hated it, so I ruined it for myself by looking who wins. Any recommendations on what season I should watch next?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
1 or 2!!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on January 18, 2011, 08:29:16 AM
I am kind of set on season 2 or 7. Does season 2 have really enjoyable teams?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on January 18, 2011, 09:20:01 AM
Ooh! Watch them both! Season 2 does have interesting teams and it keeps you at the edge of your seat till the end(Well, I only watched the Finale of Season 2 :snicker:) :hearts: Watch 9 too! :js:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DrRox on January 18, 2011, 10:40:26 AM
Tis a pity you skipped to the end of TAR3, you missed some pretty good TV. Dieselgate!!!
Personally, I think everyone should see TAR1 first........but not everyone can. 1,2,6,7,9 They are all good...take your pick........but dont skip to the end next time....lol It's good to see how they got there!!!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: CrazyMonkey on January 18, 2011, 07:15:43 PM
I would advise you to watch Season 2 because I think it is all-around a great season. It has a good cast, good route and unexpected surprises. You like me find season 5 to be the best so you will probably like 2 as well. Only watch 6 if you like bickering couples :)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on January 20, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
I would advise you to watch Season 2 because I think it is all-around a great season. It has a good cast, good route and unexpected surprises. You like me find season 5 to be the best so you will probably like 2 as well. Only watch 6 if you like bickering couples :)
I watched six. It was average. I will probably watch season 9 next. For some reason, I don't like to watch the earlier seasons because the rules are so different from they are now.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: slayton on January 20, 2011, 06:06:45 PM
Even if you didn't start watching from the beginning, like some of us, I still recommend watching it in chronological order, amazing race fan.
Suffering through the bad seasons is the only way to appreciate the good seasons.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dånooky on January 23, 2011, 05:12:53 AM
I will blame Romber for the bad casting in Season 7.
I disliked that Romber had an unfair advantage for being "celebs", but they made good TV. The thing I really hated was that their presence in that season turned more than a couple of teams into "Romber-haters". I think Susan & Patrick and Lynn & Alex could have gotten a better storyline without being obsessed with "beating Romber".
I would have loved to see Meghan & Cheyne race against Nick & Starr. I don't really like when there's an obvious alpha team. Not that I hate that kind of teams, but I'd rather have either 0 obvious alphas (like S14 and S17) or more than one alpha (like S9).
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on January 30, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Can someone give me an overview of Seasons 1,2,4,7,8 without spoiling the contestants and what happens? Just say if the tasks were good, locations, cast, drama, etc. Those are the seasons that I haven't watched.
Thanks, Amazing Race Fan
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2011, 01:53:46 PM
Go in order...it is wonderful to see it that way.
I love seasons 1&2...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 30, 2011, 02:06:49 PM
Season one is pretty damn awesome, but it has two elements I don't like. One you only see Phil when you are last, so there is no real drama at the Pit Stop. Second was the large number of production errors, but I do understand that it was very much a learning experience for the production crew.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 30, 2011, 02:36:43 PM
Amazingracefan
Now I didn't want Danielle cast on all stars but Eric And Danielle, well Eric, actually ran a strong race. They had two poor legs based on their performance. We all need to remember how you end a leg doesn't always reflect how well you raced that leg.
In season 16 for example Louie & Michael won two legs which they actually took longer then any team that wasn't eliminated to complete, they just benefitted from not getting equalized.
In All Stars that was also a factor. With travel issues holding up some teams, and getting yielded twice. One of those legs they would have won as they raced far faster then any of the other teams the other they would have finished second. On the three legs impacted by traveling one they sucked at, one the did the days tasks fastest and one the did the days tasks second fastest. On the intersection leg they deliberately, once paired with Joe and Bill, tried to be last or next to last knowing that Joe and Bill would get eliminated and it worked.
Now I can understand being upset about the casting of this team, I was. And I can understand not liking them, as each person has different things they look for in teams the root for, but they really did a lot better then their pit stop placement shows.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
Well I am with Peach......Season 1 should be next. It was such an experiment. Not only for the racers, but also for production. i just think you need to see it to understand where it started and the evolution of the Amazing Race since then. As you saidd before, the rules are different now than then. If you watch in order, you will see and understand why the rules have changed over time. You will see the abuses of some teams of the rules and know why the rules today are the way they are.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 30, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
As for the seasons I like, well it's funny my favorite racers are not in my favorite seasons.
I have a hard time picking between seasons two and five. And in both of those seasons I never really liked two many of the teams, he'll in season five I disliked a lot of the teams.
Then it would be between seasons one and three. Season one also featured a lot if teams I really didn't care for, but race itself, locations and newness were excellent. Season three I really started warming up to the racers, and there seemed to be a lot of internal interaction with teams.
Next would be probably season ten, seventeen and fourteen. All three had interesting tasks, locations and enough racers and their unteractjns for me to really love.
Next would be season seven. I hate Rob and amber, but they were entertaining, but I really felt their status gave them a significant advantage over other teams. At least with the two teams from big brother, they aren't going to be recognized as big brother us doesn't play much overseas and also has a much, much smaller audience the survivor.
Next would be season six, which had some great legs and one of the worst designed legs, one had what three or four full points of equalization. Yuck! But it also had my second favorite team, of course it also had the team I hate the most.
Next would be seasons nine and four. I really loved the course and tasks of four, but I really disliked having what six thousand all male teams. Just as I complained about season 17 having too many female teams, even if I liked them. Season four is the same just with men and even more of them. Yikes. Season nine I liked it had several legs I loved but Eric and Jeremy and to a lesser degree, even though they did win, BJ and Tyler just wiped the floor with the other teams. My favorite racers, Eric And Jeremy because they always raced. It didn't matter if they were a day ahead they still ran from point A to point B. I wouldn't be friends with this team, but s racers they were tops.
Next would be season fifteen, I truly disliked the two known teams, and yeah when you get recognized in public then I hate it. And a fairly paint by numbers course.
Then we have all stars, hated how they cast, hated that alpha male teams were never considered, hated the episodes ruined by travel issues. It's one thing when a team takes travel risks, but it's another when productions plains or poor. Plus the course just wasn't that good.
Next would be seasons twelve, first of the shorter seasons so that already posses me off, and disliked that racers actually new each other. Didn't something like four teams have a prior history of some sort. Also hated it due to the u turn. I don't carre which team wins or loses, but I hate it when production allows teams to deliberately impair another team. Just nasty, nasty behavior and this applies as well to the yield. I liked it when this shows was above such manufactured drama.
Then that's leaves us with seasons sixteen and thirteen. thirteen I liked several teams, didn't care much for the course. Just didn't care for it. sixteen I like a few teams a lot, but I hated that so many mistakes were made, hated the behavior of a few teams, and i hated that so many teams just didn't seem to go all out.
That leaves us with the family editn, here I like almost every team. Three of the teams i utterly loved. But with four racers on a team it was very difficult to get a read on individuals. Also hated, hated all the points of equalization, worse then any season. Had a few really nice legs, and I loved the final leg, it actually had some difficult tasks to it. But the negatives really over power the positives.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 30, 2011, 03:19:33 PM
One other thing, something that really makes a difference for me as a fan. It's a race, being able to go from point A to point B is huge. So seasons with little self navigation are not going to be ones I like. Seasons one through eleven feature a lot of driving. Teams having to get themselves from point a to b, it's one of the things that has really hurt modern tar in my opinion, though thankfully the last two seasons have had some.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on January 30, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
I like your analysis mswood. It's always good to see what different people have different perspectives with regards to different seasons.
For me, Season 7 was the worst for me to watch. With teams like Susan and Patrick, Ray and Deana, Rob and Amber, Ron and Kelly, Lynn and Alex who were all so quarrelsome, it became hard for me to watch them.. if Uchenna and Joyce didn't win.. i would have hated that season. The route was lame (route was like travelling in a circle??) and there was barely ANY asian countries (which i think all race should feature at least one Southeast Asia leg) as well as a LAME finale.. remember Little Havana?
But for me, the worst season for me would be Season 9. I hated Alpha male teams and it was hard for me to watch Eric and Jeremy. They weren't as bad as BJ and Tyler though.. these two are NOT hilarious at all and plain annoying for me. I'm SO GLAD they were not invited back for ANY of the Allstars. Had they not win, i think they would have a chance of coming back.. and i'm glad they won and stayed away from my TV screen. The teams were bad as well.. so many teams quarreling internally within themselves. It makes me think the only nice racers on that race would be Dave and Lori and Wanda and Desiree.. all who were eliminated early.
Season 16 was somewhat hard to watch as well. After Steve and Allie got eliminated. The only team i really cared for were the cowboys. But even with the cowboys, i didn't actually like them and wouldn't have cared if they won or not. The rest of the teams in the final five were just not as nice as the other seasons. You know, you can have internal rivalry within the teams and the race still interesting? TAR 16's internal rivalry was just plain pointless, stupid and childish. They should learn from TAR 5, TAR 7, TAR 8, TAR 10, TAR 11 and TAR 14. All these seasons had internal rivalry within the final few teams but it was at least interesting and not painful to watch...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: inomu on January 31, 2011, 08:13:11 AM
I'm probably only one whose favourite season is season 6. Don't worry, I will explain. First, I think that locations in that season were perfect. They visited in 7 new countries! And in previously visited countries they visited places that weren't visited before and I think those were interesting places: Xian, Shanghai, Corsica and Berlin.
And of course the teams of that season were very interesting. Season 6 is known for it's fighting couples of Johnathan & Victoria, Adam & Rebecca and Lori & Bolo and for crazy females of Hayden and Kendra. And then there was calm and cool couple of Kris & Jon and all-female favourite Lena & Kristy. I think all these teams made the season very interesting, there was always drama and teams were far from boring. The happiness of Kris and Jon always reminded that there's also goodness in this world :lol: And the teams didn't never fight against each other, there was only conflicts inside the teams. So the chemistry between the teams was friendly (most of the time, there were yields and Freddy's head injury). Only thing that I don't like in that season is that it had wrong winners but you can't always get what you want :D
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 31, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
No actually purely on route and tasks, season 6 is one of my favorites. Unfortunately for me the teams were often too caustic for me to stand.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on January 31, 2011, 09:14:23 PM
I like your analysis mswood. It's always good to see what different people have different perspectives with regards to different seasons.
But for me, the worst season for me would be Season 9. I hated Alpha male teams and it was hard for me to watch Eric and Jeremy. They weren't as bad as BJ and Tyler though.. these two are NOT hilarious at all and plain annoying for me. I'm SO GLAD they were not invited back for ANY of the Allstars. Had they not win, i think they would have a chance of coming back.. and i'm glad they won and stayed away from my TV screen. The teams were bad as well.. so many teams quarreling internally within themselves. It makes me think the only nice racers on that race would be Dave and Lori and Wanda and Desiree.. all who were eliminated early.
Now the funny thing at when that season aired it was perceived as one of the friendliest casts. It took until episode 9 before any external conflict between teams arose.
And internal conflict was one of the least I have ever seen, with really only Lake & Michelle being caustic to each other.
Eric & Jeremy never fought with each other, BJ & tyler never fought with each other, Ray & Yolanda had one fight in the whole season, Mojo was mild for typical younger couple that argues, Fran & Barry didn't fight, Dave & lori had one minor fight, Dani & Danielle didn't fight, Wanda & Desiree didn't fight, Dani & Danielle didn't fight, Frosties were over the top but didn't fight, and John and Scott didn't really fight.
And as far as conflict between the teams really only the feud between Mojo and BJ & Tyler occurred.
I Honestly think its one of the least conflict driven seasons. Between that and the whole season basically a toss between Eric & Jeremy (the superior team) and BJ & Tyler (seriously I hate teams that get saved especially multiple times by non elims winning) to see who was going to win. The season lacked a lot of drama (be it racing drama or conflict driven drama).
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on January 31, 2011, 10:55:12 PM
I liked the 3-way race to the pit-stop in Season 9. But it just had to be a NEL. :groan:
Please remove the link if needed. :js:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 01, 2011, 12:09:05 AM
Seriously I hate teams getting saved by multiple non eliminations (and I don't care who the team is, it could be my favorite, they deserve to be sent home).
I mean how seriously stupid were BJ & Tyler in this episode. First no pants and no shoes. WTF!!!! You have them with you put them on. I seriously wanted them to lose for that right there. Just hopelessly dumb behavior.
Then you are heading to the Pit Stop you are barely ahead of the fastest team on your season (if not one of the fastest teams on any season) and of course still no shoes, but when Jeremy stops to get directions (and Jeremy took time to put shoes and clothes on and Jeremy's an idiot), Tyler gets out and goes and asks Jeremy for directions (he doesn't get them, and doesn't ever ask the ambulance driver). They give up lead position (with no shoes) to follow the fastest team. Well thats not going to end well.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on February 01, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
Seriously I hate teams getting saved by multiple non eliminations (and I don't care who the team is, it could be my favorite, they deserve to be sent home).
I mean how seriously stupid were BJ & Tyler in this episode. First no pants and no shoes. WTF!!!! You have them with you put them on. I seriously wanted them to lose for that right there. Just hopelessly dumb behavior.
Then you are heading to the Pit Stop you are barely ahead of the fastest team on your season (if not one of the fastest teams on any season) and of course still no shoes, but when Jeremy stops to get directions (and Jeremy took time to put shoes and clothes on and Jeremy's an idiot), Tyler gets out and goes and asks Jeremy for directions (he doesn't get them, and doesn't ever ask the ambulance driver). They give up lead position (with no shoes) to follow the fastest team. Well thats not going to end well.
And going over the rocks instead of the bridge in a situation where you had to at least suspect Monica would be a while behind (If male ego didn't lead him to believe that, perhaps her constant screaming would be a clue?) The first NEL I could give them a pass because they were done in by the luck task in the desert, but this one was just unbelievably dumb.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Zack. on February 01, 2011, 11:56:22 AM
Be warned, this gets wordy. B:)
When voting, I initially had an idea of which seasons I preferred. And while I enjoyed 3 and 12 a lot, and while 1 and 5 will have special places in my heart, I ultimately voted for TAR 2.
Visually, it was just incredible. In spite of the fact that it was filmed in near-winter (?), the entire course had a summery feel to it that I really liked, due to the number of legs in the Southern Hemisphere. Despite that decision, there was a variety of locales, from the rainforest of Brazil to the sand dunes of Namibia to the skyscrapers of Hong Kong to rural New Zealand to frigid Alaska and the gorgeous view over San Francisco bay that finished the season. Could there have been more countries visited? Perhaps. But I think that each leg was effective as a part of the race course as a whole (ie I couldn't picture the season without the leg in Otago, or the leg in South Africa, or the leg in Northern Thailand, etc). As a plus, there were several 'notable' monuments visited - Christ the Redeemer, Nelson Mandela's jail cell, Sydney's Opera House.
The teams were good in that they represented a wide variety of types of people from different stages in their lives, which impacted their interactions with each other, other teams, and their approach to the tasks. I think a direct result of this is that you were able to see relationships evolve: some were obvious (Tara/Wil's gradual acceptance of their separation, Deidre/Hillary bonding), but others were more subtle (Cyndi taking a more active role in their relationship, Blake respecting Paige as a racer). While some had complex relationships, others changed internally (Chris/Alex being humbled, Peach becoming more self-sufficient); the combination of these led to a lot of the more meaningful moments in the season.
The tasks were great. They achieved a mix of being relevant to the culture, being difficult, and being entertaining from a viewer's perspective (in particular the Detour in Bangkok, the Roadblock in Otago). Even the tasks that were slanted heavily towards one of these still had their charms (the Nevis Valley bungee, for instance, or the final roadblock in Alaska). This of course doesn't include all the non-Detour/RB tasks: the hunt for the flower in Bangkok, the drive from Queenstown to Auckland, flying from Brazil to South Africa, which tested teams capacity to remain calm and focused in a stressful situation.
There were hilarious moments - nearly everything in the leg from Hong Kong to Sydney, nearly everything the Chas did, and even beyond that, most of the teams had something worth laughing about, even if it was unintentional in nature. There were heartwarming moments - Shola and Doyin in Mandela's cell, the teams cheering on the Grannies, Wil on the bungee (for me, anyway). There were moments that were just insane to watch - Mary and Peach being told 'They will kill you' if they went to their next destination', Tara vs. Wil in Hawaii, Blake in Bangkok, etc.
And then, of course, there was the finish. A slowly building relationship/rivalry between two teams, with their share of good times and bad, leading up to a leg and a half wherein Tara and Wil's relationship crumbles, and Chris/Alex seemingly become stronger than ever, ultimately leading to T/W at each other's throats, functioning solely to arrive first at the finish line while Chris/Alex, galvanized from their last-place finish in Hawaii and last-place status out of Alaska, attempt to play catch up. (I have to give it to the editors for not simply editing Blake/Paige out of the picture a la Jill/Thomas in LA). Regardless of your thoughts on C/A, there's no denying that the final minutes of the race are some of the most memorable in the series' history, from the effective scoring to the great camera work (at multiple times the camera will slide from Tara back to C/A).
Ultimately, I feel that even though the teams may not have been the most likable, the combination of teams, countries, tasks and circumstances of the season combined together to form what I think is the best season of TAR.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Seriously I hate teams getting saved by multiple non eliminations (and I don't care who the team is, it could be my favorite, they deserve to be sent home).
I mean how seriously stupid were BJ & Tyler in this episode. First no pants and no shoes. WTF!!!! You have them with you put them on. I seriously wanted them to lose for that right there. Just hopelessly dumb behavior.
Then you are heading to the Pit Stop you are barely ahead of the fastest team on your season (if not one of the fastest teams on any season) and of course still no shoes, but when Jeremy stops to get directions (and Jeremy took time to put shoes and clothes on and Jeremy's an idiot), Tyler gets out and goes and asks Jeremy for directions (he doesn't get them, and doesn't ever ask the ambulance driver). They give up lead position (with no shoes) to follow the fastest team. Well thats not going to end well.
AR9 does not make it onto my list of the most thrilling seasons, but the Lake Bennett Wilderness Resort run to the pit stop does make it onto my list of most amazing moments ever in the history of the Amazing Race. The part you talk about precedes the important part where BJ attempted to take a shortcut and fell, narrowly edged out by Monica at the pit stop into last place of the 4 teams remaining. The time difference between Eric/Jeremy, Monica/Joseph and BJ/Tyler could not have been much more than one second. That was really thrilling.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 01, 2011, 06:39:01 PM
Seriously I hate teams getting saved by multiple non eliminations (and I don't care who the team is, it could be my favorite, they deserve to be sent home).
I mean how seriously stupid were BJ & Tyler in this episode. First no pants and no shoes. WTF!!!! You have them with you put them on. I seriously wanted them to lose for that right there. Just hopelessly dumb behavior.
Then you are heading to the Pit Stop you are barely ahead of the fastest team on your season (if not one of the fastest teams on any season) and of course still no shoes, but when Jeremy stops to get directions (and Jeremy took time to put shoes and clothes on and Jeremy's an idiot), Tyler gets out and goes and asks Jeremy for directions (he doesn't get them, and doesn't ever ask the ambulance driver). They give up lead position (with no shoes) to follow the fastest team. Well thats not going to end well.
I thought that Uchenna and Joyce were not eliminated in Jamaica was ridiculous. It was the final three. Jeremy and Tyler got saved in the Final Four. This situation was by far worse. Rob and Amber deserved to win so much more than Uchenna and Joyce. They really only won because they got good directions to a location and Rob and Amber got bad directions.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Belle Book on February 01, 2011, 07:29:01 PM
I thought that Uchenna and Joyce were not eliminated in Jamaica was ridiculous. It was the final three. Jeremy and Tyler got saved in the Final Four. This situation was by far worse. Rob and Amber deserved to win so much more than Uchenna and Joyce. They really only won because they got good directions to a location and Rob and Amber got bad directions.
They also won because they got on the same plane as Rob & Amber. If Uchenna & Joyce hadn't gotten on the same plane, Rob & Amber's getting bad directions wouldn't have mattered -- they'd have been too far ahead of Uchenna & Joyce.
And besides, getting good directions or bad directions is part of the Race -- and part of life.
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 01, 2011, 10:06:28 PM
I thought that Uchenna and Joyce were not eliminated in Jamaica was ridiculous. It was the final three. Jeremy and Tyler got saved in the Final Four. This situation was by far worse. Rob and Amber deserved to win so much more than Uchenna and Joyce. They really only won because they got good directions to a location and Rob and Amber got bad directions.
They also won because they got on the same plane as Rob & Amber. If Uchenna & Joyce hadn't gotten on the same plane, Rob & Amber's getting bad directions wouldn't have mattered -- they'd have been too far ahead of Uchenna & Joyce.
And besides, getting good directions or bad directions is part of the Race -- and part of life.
Belle Book
I forgot about the plane being held up for them. The plane was held up about 10 minutes before they even got to the gate. Its not like they got to the gate 10 minutes before it was scheduled to leave. They got to the gate 10 minutes after it was scheduled to leave. I don't know if CBS had something to do with it or if it was just pure luck, but they certainly are the luckiest team in the history of the show. They ran an OK race. Rob and Amber just deserved it more.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 03, 2011, 08:03:18 PM
Amazingracefan
A lot of the earlier seasons of TAR had a non elimination leg before the finale leg. It was a pretty common occurrence. In fact up until season 9 only two seasons didn't feature a non elimination leg before the finale leg (seasons 5 and 6).
Nor was Uchenna & Joyce the first winners who were saved in the next to last leg by a non elimination. This happened in season 2 and 3, with Chris & Alex getting saved and winning, and Flo & Zach getting saved and winning.
And typically the strongest team doesn't win, by either specifically breaking apart the episodes to see time to complete or even the easier pit stop placement. Though its been more common in modern (season 12 and later) TAR.
As for Rob and Amber yes they performed better then Uchenna & Joyce, but they also were the first team to be what you could call a celebrity on the race. They received a lot of additional help on legs because people around the world had seen them from their three seasons of Survivor. There are legs they would have done, far, far worse without the additional help. At that time they were the first team to be recognized and assisted because of who they were. Its happened also on All Stars and in season 15, its something I truly don't like to see as it does give them (whomever the team is) a significant advantage that isn't based on genetics, social or learned skills.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 03, 2011, 10:37:49 PM
A lot of the earlier seasons of TAR had a non elimination leg before the finale leg. It was a pretty common occurrence. In fact up until season 9 only two seasons didn't feature a non elimination leg before the finale leg (seasons 5 and 6).
Nor was Uchenna & Joyce the first winners who were saved in the next to last leg by a non elimination. This happened in season 2 and 3, with Chris & Alex getting saved and winning, and Flo & Zach getting saved and winning.
And typically the strongest team doesn't win, by either specifically breaking apart the episodes to see time to complete or even the easier pit stop placement. Though its been more common in modern (season 12 and later) TAR.
As for Rob and Amber yes they performed better then Uchenna & Joyce, but they also were the first team to be what you could call a celebrity on the race. They received a lot of additional help on legs because people around the world had seen them from their three seasons of Survivor. There are legs they would have done, far, far worse without the additional help. At that time they were the first team to be recognized and assisted because of who they were. Its happened also on All Stars and in season 15, its something I truly don't like to see as it does give them (whomever the team is) a significant advantage that isn't based on genetics, social or learned skills.
My only response is that you ruined season 2 for me. I was about to start episode 11. I was really getting into it. :groan:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 03, 2011, 10:45:13 PM
Opps, I forget that not everyone has watched all the seasons. But really no one has said how its ended here yet?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2011, 12:33:17 AM
Oh dear, that is a pity, but you'll still have the fun of seeing HOW it all happens.
But in a thread devoted to discussion of why one season is better than another, anyone who seriously doesn't want to know former season outcomes should probably avoid the thread until you have watched. It is hard with former seasons, because they can't be considered "spoilers" anymore, so it is hard to keep y'all safe. ALL of the discussion threads of former seasons will have info about the outcomes, it is what is being discussed.
But you will love the finale anyway, a very good one. :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 04, 2011, 10:00:59 AM
Oh dear, that is a pity, but you'll still have the fun of seeing HOW it all happens.
But in a thread devoted to discussion of why one season is better than another, anyone who seriously doesn't want to know former season outcomes should probably avoid the thread until you have watched. It is hard with former seasons, because they can't be considered "spoilers" anymore, so it is hard to keep y'all safe. ALL of the discussion threads of former seasons will have info about the outcomes, it is what is being discussed.
But you will love the finale anyway, a very good one. :tup:
I just finished the finale. It was a great ending. I am dissapointed that Tara just gave up when she was about 100 feet from the finish line. I have never done anything like the Amazing Race, but you are 100 feet from 1 million dollars. She could have pushed through the pain. Alex and Chris deserved it though. They ran a good race.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 04, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Seriously I hate teams getting saved by multiple non eliminations (and I don't care who the team is, it could be my favorite, they deserve to be sent home).
I mean how seriously stupid were BJ & Tyler in this episode. First no pants and no shoes. WTF!!!! You have them with you put them on. I seriously wanted them to lose for that right there. Just hopelessly dumb behavior.
Then you are heading to the Pit Stop you are barely ahead of the fastest team on your season (if not one of the fastest teams on any season) and of course still no shoes, but when Jeremy stops to get directions (and Jeremy took time to put shoes and clothes on and Jeremy's an idiot), Tyler gets out and goes and asks Jeremy for directions (he doesn't get them, and doesn't ever ask the ambulance driver). They give up lead position (with no shoes) to follow the fastest team. Well thats not going to end well.
I thought that Uchenna and Joyce were not eliminated in Jamaica was ridiculous. It was the final three. Jeremy and Tyler got saved in the Final Four. This situation was by far worse. Rob and Amber deserved to win so much more than Uchenna and Joyce. They really only won because they got good directions to a location and Rob and Amber got bad directions.
Amazing Race Fan, I am going to voice strong alternate opinions on several statements in this thread, so let's start with you and the AR7 finale. This was a game of about a minute is 2 separate instances. First, the episode 11 NEL car race across the northern coast of Jamaica from Port Antonio to Montego Bay. Uchenna/Joyce had victory in the bag until they got a flat tire and finished 1 MINUTE behind Rob/Amber and Ron/Kelly. They had all their money confiscated and they received no money, which was made what they accomplished after pit stop release in the episode 12 finale extraordinary. They managed to navigate around multiple tasks and to make it to the Montego Bay airport and fly to San Juan International Airport just in time to stay in the race. I will have more to say about another post related to the AR7 finale.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 04, 2011, 12:49:31 PM
I thought that Uchenna and Joyce were not eliminated in Jamaica was ridiculous. It was the final three. Jeremy and Tyler got saved in the Final Four. This situation was by far worse. Rob and Amber deserved to win so much more than Uchenna and Joyce. They really only won because they got good directions to a location and Rob and Amber got bad directions.
They also won because they got on the same plane as Rob & Amber. If Uchenna & Joyce hadn't gotten on the same plane, Rob & Amber's getting bad directions wouldn't have mattered -- they'd have been too far ahead of Uchenna & Joyce.
And besides, getting good directions or bad directions is part of the Race -- and part of life.
Belle Book
I forgot about the plane being held up for them. The plane was held up about 10 minutes before they even got to the gate. Its not like they got to the gate 10 minutes before it was scheduled to leave. They got to the gate 10 minutes after it was scheduled to leave. I don't know if CBS had something to do with it or if it was just pure luck, but they certainly are the luckiest team in the history of the show. They ran an OK race. Rob and Amber just deserved it more.
Amazing Race Fan, Again, my memory of the facts about AR7 differs from yours. Uchenna/Joyce left for San Juan Airport first, but either Uchenna's conservative driving, Rob's and Ron's breaking speed limits to catch up, or most likely some of both made it close to a 3-way tie on the approach to the airport. Ron/Kelly missed the turn and did not make the flight about to leave. If there had been a 20 minute arrival gap between Rob/Amber and Uchenna/Joyce, the Ron/Kelly would have easily made the same plane, so it is obvious that there never was such a gap. I remember the gap being about 1 minute between Rob/Amber arriving to the American Airlines customer service agent and Uchenna/Joyce arriving there. That puts a different perspective on why the pullback decision was made.
I further remember that the cab driver Uchenna/Joyce got at the airport spoke Spanish and was later able to take them directly to El Rey de les Habanos. Rob/Amber were unlucky about not getting a Spanish-speaking cab driver and paying the price in time navigating the Little Havana area of MIami. That was retribution for a number of lucky breaks and help based on their Survivor fame that Rob/Amber got earlier in AR7.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 04, 2011, 12:55:26 PM
Oh dear, that is a pity, but you'll still have the fun of seeing HOW it all happens.
But in a thread devoted to discussion of why one season is better than another, anyone who seriously doesn't want to know former season outcomes should probably avoid the thread until you have watched. It is hard with former seasons, because they can't be considered "spoilers" anymore, so it is hard to keep y'all safe. ALL of the discussion threads of former seasons will have info about the outcomes, it is what is being discussed.
But you will love the finale anyway, a very good one. :tup:
I just finished the finale. It was a great ending. I am dissapointed that Tara just gave up when she was about 100 feet from the finish line. I have never done anything like the Amazing Race, but you are 100 feet from 1 million dollars. She could have pushed through the pain. Alex and Chris deserved it though. They ran a good race.
Amazing Race Fan,
It may seem like I am picking on you with this 3rd consecutive post challenging your statements about AR7 and AR2, but let's remember a few things:
1. Tara had to run down the hill in San Francisco to get to Fisherman's Wharf. That would have tired her out quite a bit. 2. On arrival at Fort Baker on the east side of the Golden Gate Bridge after the games of cat-and-mouse, Wil/Tara only had about a 10 second lead on Chris/Alex. They needed about double that to stay in front. 3. Tara just plain ran out of energy and was unable to keep up a fast-paced run like Wil, Chris and Alex were. This is exactly what I would have expected.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2011, 01:14:05 PM
I have been there. That hill is a LOT steeper than it looked and is a long way up. She was never a runner and knew it.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 04, 2011, 03:17:45 PM
Oh dear, that is a pity, but you'll still have the fun of seeing HOW it all happens.
But in a thread devoted to discussion of why one season is better than another, anyone who seriously doesn't want to know former season outcomes should probably avoid the thread until you have watched. It is hard with former seasons, because they can't be considered "spoilers" anymore, so it is hard to keep y'all safe. ALL of the discussion threads of former seasons will have info about the outcomes, it is what is being discussed.
But you will love the finale anyway, a very good one. :tup:
Amazing Race Fan,
It may seem like I am picking on you with this 3rd consecutive post challenging your statements about AR7 and AR2, but let's remember a few things:
1. Tara had to run down the hill in San Francisco to get to Fisherman's Wharf. That would have tired her out quite a bit. 2. On arrival at Fort Baker on the east side of the Golden Gate Bridge after the games of cat-and-mouse, Wil/Tara only had about a 10 second lead on Chris/Alex. They needed about double that to stay in front. 3. Tara just plain ran out of energy and was unable to keep up a fast-paced run like Wil, Chris and Alex were. This is exactly what I would have expected. I just finished the finale. It was a great ending. I am dissapointed that Tara just gave up when she was about 100 feet from the finish line. I have never done anything like the Amazing Race, but you are 100 feet from 1 million dollars. She could have pushed through the pain. Alex and Chris deserved it though. They ran a good race.
I just watched this season recently, so maybe I remember a bit better, but CBS showed on the screen the time Uchenna and Joyce got to the gate. Rob and Amber got to the gate before the plane was scheduled to leave. There was about a ten minute time difference between the two teams. Regardless, you don't ever see planes held up for people. It just was really not a fair way to go about it. It was basically a hand picked winner by CBS and BVM. Rob and Amber would have definitely won if Uchenna and Joyce did not make the plane. You can bring up how Uchenna and Joyce got unlucky earlier in the race, but this was the finale. Its not fair to alter the game in the finale. It should be the best team wins, not the team BVM and CBS wants to win. Its not my TV show or Network though. Thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 04, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
Oh dear, that is a pity, but you'll still have the fun of seeing HOW it all happens.
But in a thread devoted to discussion of why one season is better than another, anyone who seriously doesn't want to know former season outcomes should probably avoid the thread until you have watched. It is hard with former seasons, because they can't be considered "spoilers" anymore, so it is hard to keep y'all safe. ALL of the discussion threads of former seasons will have info about the outcomes, it is what is being discussed.
But you will love the finale anyway, a very good one. :tup:
Amazing Race Fan,
It may seem like I am picking on you with this 3rd consecutive post challenging your statements about AR7 and AR2, but let's remember a few things:
1. Tara had to run down the hill in San Francisco to get to Fisherman's Wharf. That would have tired her out quite a bit. 2. On arrival at Fort Baker on the east side of the Golden Gate Bridge after the games of cat-and-mouse, Wil/Tara only had about a 10 second lead on Chris/Alex. They needed about double that to stay in front. 3. Tara just plain ran out of energy and was unable to keep up a fast-paced run like Wil, Chris and Alex were. This is exactly what I would have expected. I just finished the finale. It was a great ending. I am dissapointed that Tara just gave up when she was about 100 feet from the finish line. I have never done anything like the Amazing Race, but you are 100 feet from 1 million dollars. She could have pushed through the pain. Alex and Chris deserved it though. They ran a good race.
I realize how far the run was, but you have to show a little more effort for 1 million dollars. Once she saw Alex and Chris get close to her, she just let them pass her. Maybe she didn't care that much about the money. It was just unfair to Wil. He gave the race his all, and for his partner to just give up because she was tired, is just not fair to him. Regardless of her feelings towards him, that is not fair to deprive your partner of that money, and being the winner of The Amazing Race because you are tired. If that was me, I would have found a way to get up that hill faster than Alex and Chris no matter how tired I was. You have time to be tired and have time to rest your whole life, but you only have 1 chance(in some cases 2) to run the Amazing Race.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on February 04, 2011, 03:41:52 PM
I have been there. That hill is a LOT steeper than it looked and is a long way up. She was never a runner and knew it.
Seconded. Even worse when you're carrying a laptop and a backpack because you're only on a layover to New York and you don't want to leave your stuff laying around an airport.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on February 04, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
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I just watched this season recently, so maybe I remember a bit better, but CBS showed on the screen the time Uchenna and Joyce got to the gate. Rob and Amber got to the gate before the plane was scheduled to leave. There was about a ten minute time difference between the two teams. Regardless, you don't ever see planes held up for people. It just was really not a fair way to go about it. It was basically a hand picked winner by CBS and BVM. Rob and Amber would have definitely won if Uchenna and Joyce did not make the plane. You can bring up how Uchenna and Joyce got unlucky earlier in the race, but this was the finale. Its not fair to alter the game in the finale. It should be the best team wins, not the team BVM and CBS wants to win. Its not my TV show or Network though. Thats just my opinion.
The plane was held up for Rob and Amber in leg four, allowing them onto the first flight to Buenos Aires. Turnabout is fair play imo.
In regards to your best team opinion, Uchenna and Joyce finished outside the top 3 only 3 times, only 1 time more than the powerhouse teams like Nick and Starr and Meghan and Cheyne, and the same amount of times as Colin and Christie and Jet and Cord.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 04, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
I just watched this season recently, so maybe I remember a bit better, but CBS showed on the screen the time Uchenna and Joyce got to the gate. Rob and Amber got to the gate before the plane was scheduled to leave. There was about a ten minute time difference between the two teams. Regardless, you don't ever see planes held up for people. It just was really not a fair way to go about it. It was basically a hand picked winner by CBS and BVM. Rob and Amber would have definitely won if Uchenna and Joyce did not make the plane. You can bring up how Uchenna and Joyce got unlucky earlier in the race, but this was the finale. Its not fair to alter the game in the finale. It should be the best team wins, not the team BVM and CBS wants to win. Its not my TV show or Network though. Thats just my opinion.
The plane was held up for Rob and Amber in leg four, allowing them onto the first flight to Buenos Aires. Turnabout is fair play imo.
In regards to your best team opinion, Uchenna and Joyce finished outside the top 3 only 3 times, only 1 time more than the powerhouse teams like Nick and Starr and Meghan and Cheyne, and the same amount of times as Colin and Christie and Jet and Cord.
There is a difference between leg four and the finale. Leg four does not decide the winner.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 04, 2011, 06:02:23 PM
I just watched this season recently, so maybe I remember a bit better, but CBS showed on the screen the time Uchenna and Joyce got to the gate. Rob and Amber got to the gate before the plane was scheduled to leave. There was about a ten minute time difference between the two teams. Regardless, you don't ever see planes held up for people. It just was really not a fair way to go about it. It was basically a hand picked winner by CBS and BVM. Rob and Amber would have definitely won if Uchenna and Joyce did not make the plane. You can bring up how Uchenna and Joyce got unlucky earlier in the race, but this was the finale. Its not fair to alter the game in the finale. It should be the best team wins, not the team BVM and CBS wants to win. Its not my TV show or Network though. Thats just my opinion.
The plane was held up for Rob and Amber in leg four, allowing them onto the first flight to Buenos Aires. Turnabout is fair play imo.
In regards to your best team opinion, Uchenna and Joyce finished outside the top 3 only 3 times, only 1 time more than the powerhouse teams like Nick and Starr and Meghan and Cheyne, and the same amount of times as Colin and Christie and Jet and Cord.
There is a difference between leg four and the finale. Leg four does not decide the winner.
I agree. Even though you could say it was karma for what happenned to Rob and Amber on the last leg, there's a big difference between a vacation and $1 Million (and being the winners of the amazing race 7)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 04, 2011, 08:05:15 PM
Uchenna and Joyce won fair and square. They beat Romber twice, in case all of you forgot about Allstars? :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on February 04, 2011, 08:18:32 PM
Uchenna and Joyce won fair and square. They beat Romber twice, in case all of you forgot about Allstars? :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
I wish this was facebook so I could like that post.
Season 7, even with some really intense rivalry and not such an appealing race route.. has one of the best finales ever on the race. Thanks to great edit and the great cab fare begging at the end, it kept us on our toes for like... 10 entire minutes. :lol:
OT: RFF should do a like function. LOL :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 04, 2011, 09:57:57 PM
Uchenna and Joyce won fair and square. They beat Romber twice, in case all of you forgot about Allstars? :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
They beat Rob and Amber once. It was definitely not fair and square. Unless you consider holding up the final plane fair. Everything that happened on the first all star season means nothing. That season was a complete joke. Eric and Danielle won, which was pathetic. The most pathetic thing is probably that Charla and Mirna made it to the final three. If there was ever a lucky team, they are the team. They were not smart, not athletic, not calm. They had nothing going for them, but somehow made it to the finale. Dustin and Kandice deserved to win.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: slayton on February 05, 2011, 12:37:58 AM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on February 05, 2011, 01:32:31 AM
In a way, Uchenna & Joyce making it on the same flight as Rob & Amber out of Puerto Rico did not give them an advantage over Rob & Amber, but equalled the playing field between them. Rob & Amber could have still won if things went right for them once they set foot out of the Miami airport, but of course, what had happened, happened. :js:
Eric & Danielle deserved to win. They survived being yielded twice, being yanked off a flight and at one point were a full day (or two) behind the leading teams and still managed to pull it off, which was great.
I too, would have loved :<3 Dustin & Kandice :<3 to win. But all 3 deserved it.
Charla & Mirna deserved to be in the Final 3 as much as any other team. They may not be very athletic, nor calm [in certain situations] (cue *$20 to eat food..I give you* scene :lol:) but I would'nt say they are not smart. They are very good with their airport maneuvers and know how to work it to their advantage.
United Airlines to Honolulu :luvya:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 11:53:11 AM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
In a way, Uchenna & Joyce making it on the same flight as Rob & Amber out of Puerto Rico did not give them an advantage over Rob & Amber, but equalled the playing field between them. Rob & Amber could have still won if things went right for them once they set foot out of the Miami airport, but of course, what had happened, happened. :js:
Eric & Danielle deserved to win. They survived being yielded twice, being yanked off a flight and at one point were a full day (or two) behind the leading teams and still managed to pull it off, which was great.
I too, would have loved :<3 Dustin & Kandice :<3 to win. But all 3 deserved it.
Charla & Mirna deserved to be in the Final 3 as much as any other team. They may not be very athletic, nor calm [in certain situations] (cue *$20 to eat food..I give you* scene :lol:) but I would'nt say they are not smart. They are very good with their airport maneuvers and know how to work it to their advantage.
United Airlines to Honolulu :luvya:
Eric and Danielle deserved it most after Dustin and Kandice. It was definitely a very weak all star season. Eric might have competed very well, but Danielle was definitely not a great competitor. I can't agree with you about Charla and Mirna though. They were not smart, they were just sneaky. The only thing that they were good at was finding their way onto better flights. They were also terrible navigators. They payed everyone to get them to locations.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 05, 2011, 12:52:54 PM
In a way, Uchenna & Joyce making it on the same flight as Rob & Amber out of Puerto Rico did not give them an advantage over Rob & Amber, but equalled the playing field between them. Rob & Amber could have still won if things went right for them once they set foot out of the Miami airport, but of course, what had happened, happened. :js:
Eric & Danielle deserved to win. They survived being yielded twice, being yanked off a flight and at one point were a full day (or two) behind the leading teams and still managed to pull it off, which was great.
I too, would have loved :<3 Dustin & Kandice :<3 to win. But all 3 deserved it.
Charla & Mirna deserved to be in the Final 3 as much as any other team. They may not be very athletic, nor calm [in certain situations] (cue *$20 to eat food..I give you* scene :lol:) but I would'nt say they are not smart. They are very good with their airport maneuvers and know how to work it to their advantage.
United Airlines to Honolulu :luvya:
Eric and Danielle deserved it most after Dustin and Kandice. It was definitely a very weak all star season. Eric might have competed very well, but Danielle was definitely not a great competitor. I can't agree with you about Charla and Mirna though. They were not smart, they were just sneaky. The only thing that they were good at was finding their way onto better flights. They were also terrible navigators. They payed everyone to get them to locations.
Amazing Race Fan, I finally have found something I can wholeheartedly agree with you on. I believe that Dustin/Kandice did deserve the win, but their taxi karma from Oakland airport to the Grateful Dead House was their downfall.
In spite of agreeing with you on that, I totally disagree on your characterization of AR11 as "a weak season." WRP and CBS adopted the basic policy of no season winners (except for Uchenna/Joyce), so that eliminated some strong teams form consideration, including certainly Rob/Brennan, Chris/Alex, Chip/Reichen and BJ/Tyler. However, AR11 did feature some dynamite #2 teams from their seasons: Rob/Amber Eric/Danielle (substituting for the stronger Jeremy) Ian/Teri
Other very strong teams were: Joe/Bill #3 Dustin/Kandice #4 Oswald/Danny #4 Kevin/Drew #4 (or so we thought until we saw them perform in AR11) Charla/Mirna #6 (eliminated earlier than expected due to aggressive flight selection)
The only weak but highly popular teams were: John Vito/Jill #5 David/Mary #6
the average ordinal placement was #3.55, halfway between 3rd and 4th.
So let's look at the same statistics for AR18:
Season Winners - none #2 teams - Jaime/Cara, Ron/Christina, Jet/Cord #3 team - Margie/Luke #4 teams - LaKeisha/Jennifer, Herb/Nate #5 teams - Gary/Mallory, Kent/Vyxsin #6 team - Mel/Mike #8 team - Amanda/Kris #9 team - Zev/Justin
The average ordinal placement is 4.55, exactly one place on average worse than for AR11. My conclusion is that AR11 had much stronger teams than AR18. The desire to allow retribution for the bad things that happened to Amanda/Kris and Zev/Justin pulled the ordinal placement higher by quite a bit. Besides the statistics, I personally believe that AR11 was a strong season.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Belle Book on February 05, 2011, 01:06:10 PM
In a way, Uchenna & Joyce making it on the same flight as Rob & Amber out of Puerto Rico did not give them an advantage over Rob & Amber, but equalled the playing field between them. Rob & Amber could have still won if things went right for them once they set foot out of the Miami airport, but of course, what had happened, happened. :js:
Eric & Danielle deserved to win. They survived being yielded twice, being yanked off a flight and at one point were a full day (or two) behind the leading teams and still managed to pull it off, which was great.
I too, would have loved :<3 Dustin & Kandice :<3 to win. But all 3 deserved it.
Charla & Mirna deserved to be in the Final 3 as much as any other team. They may not be very athletic, nor calm [in certain situations] (cue *$20 to eat food..I give you* scene :lol:) but I would'nt say they are not smart. They are very good with their airport maneuvers and know how to work it to their advantage.
United Airlines to Honolulu :luvya:
Eric and Danielle deserved it most after Dustin and Kandice. It was definitely a very weak all star season. Eric might have competed very well, but Danielle was definitely not a great competitor. I can't agree with you about Charla and Mirna though. They were not smart, they were just sneaky. The only thing that they were good at was finding their way onto better flights. They were also terrible navigators. They payed everyone to get them to locations.
Amazing Race Fan, I finally have found something I can wholeheartedly agree with you on. I believe that Dustin/Kandice did deserve the win, but their taxi karma from Oakland airport to the Grateful Dead House was their downfall.
In spite of agreeing with you on that, I totally disagree on your characterization of AR11 as "a weak season." WRP and CBS adopted the basic policy of no season winners (except for Uchenna/Joyce), so that eliminated some strong teams form consideration, including certainly Rob/Brennan, Chris/Alex, Chip/Reichen and BJ/Tyler. However, AR11 did feature some dynamite #2 teams from their seasons: Rob/Amber Eric/Danielle (substituting for the stronger Jeremy Ian/Teri
Other very strong teams were: Joe/Bill #3 Dustin/Kandice #4 Oswald/Danny #4 Kevin/Drew #4 (or so we thought until we saw them perform in AR11) Charla/Mirna #6 (eliminated earlier than expected
the only weak but highly popular teams were: John Vito/Jill #5 David/Mary #6
Actually, I'd put John Vito & Jill in the strong team category -- they had bad navigation in Singapore in their season. And they got bad directions in All-Stars. But David & Mary were weak, I agree on that!
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2011, 01:07:58 PM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
My question for you is why watch TAR if you don't even trust your own host and producers? I guess none of the seasons will be good enough for you since if the producers rigged TAR7, they most likely rigged every other race IYO?
I just find it unacceptable that people till this day, still believe that the producers rigged the show so that Uchenna and Joyce win the race? Hello, then i think they would have rigged the race many times for more popular teams to win?? (Dustin and Kandice, Kris and Jon??) :groan:
And of course, Dustin and Kandice did deserve to win Allstars, but the fact remains that they didn't and Danielle's gossipy attitude allowed her to share almost all her feelings/thoughts/emotions with allowed him to read her accurately.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 05, 2011, 01:14:11 PM
Actually, I'd put John Vito & Jill in the strong team category -- they had bad navigation in Singapore in their season. And they got bad directions in All-Stars. But David & Mary were weak, I agree on that!
Belle Book
Belle Book: Navigation skills are the #1 determinant of amazing Race winners. JohnVito/Jill were abysmal at it. They proved it first in Singapore and then again in AR11 ep. 1 not finding the correct road to the Hacienda Yanahurco in Ecuador.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2011, 01:16:18 PM
It has clearly been discussed thru the years about that flight, I believe that there were airline (NOT production) issues as to why the pilot chose to let them on....
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
It has clearly been discussed thru the years about that flight, I believe that there were airline (NOT production) issues as to why the pilot chose to let them on....
Can you bold this a million times in red?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2011, 01:49:33 PM
I am not saying that there have never been questions about production's impact on teams, there have been.
But in this case, it was more due to concerns that the airline rep made a mistake than production, IIRC.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2011, 01:59:01 PM
I am not saying that there have never been questions about production's impact on teams, there have been.
But in this case, it was more due to concerns that the airline rep made a mistake than production, IIRC.
There definitely have been some instances and such, but there's no question that the pilot's decision was the deciding factor and hell damn that was one great decision made and saved the show from a horrible TAR7 ending.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DrRox on February 05, 2011, 02:00:16 PM
It has clearly been discussed thru the years about that flight, I believe that there were airline (NOT production) issues as to why the pilot chose to let them on....
There are lots of myths and legends around The Amazing Race!!!! People would rather believe a myth or legend than the truth.
Long before I found RFF, I did my own research into this matter. I had a friend that flew Tripple 7s out of Miami for American to Rio and Sao Paulo. I got him to track down that pilot. Both pilots were Miami based, so it was fairly easy for him to indentify and meet the TAR7 pilot. The delay in the push back for that San Juan-Miami flight was due to the GMC/SMC controller at the San Juan Airport. There was some sort of runway/taxiway incursion and they had to wait. Uchenna and Joyce were extremely lucky in that regard.
The pilot did make the decision to roll the jetway back to the plane. I am just guessing that the tickets were about $500 for that flight. So while he was waiting for instructions to push back, he just added $2000 revenue to his flight. The TAR7 pilot told my friend pilot, that at the time, he didn't know it was racers for the Amazing Race. He said he had time and space to board 4 full coach paying passengers, so he did. A command decision.
In the TAR 7 DVD, there is absolutely nothing in the video to prove that the roll back of the jetway was at San Juan Airport, that I could ever see. It could have been at any airport with a jetway and American Airlines jet, ie stock footage.
The Amazing Race is NOT a documentary. It is a produced, directed and edited entertainment program. We know from the very recent past that they use many techniques to hype the drama, excitement and closeness of the finishes. We also know that many of those finishes were not nearly as close as they want us to believe.
So amazing race fan, I think you hit the nail on the head in post #193 back upthread......
Actually, I'd put John Vito & Jill in the strong team category -- they had bad navigation in Singapore in their season. And they got bad directions in All-Stars. But David & Mary were weak, I agree on that!
Belle Book
Belle Book: Navigation skills are the #1 determinant of amazing Race winners. JohnVito/Jill were abysmal at it. They proved it first in Singapore and then again in AR11 ep. 1 not finding the correct road to the Hacienda Yanahurco in Ecuador.
Well, moderately strong then but lacking a crucial element for real strength since they were so bad at navigation.
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
In a way, Uchenna & Joyce making it on the same flight as Rob & Amber out of Puerto Rico did not give them an advantage over Rob & Amber, but equalled the playing field between them. Rob & Amber could have still won if things went right for them once they set foot out of the Miami airport, but of course, what had happened, happened. :js:
Eric & Danielle deserved to win. They survived being yielded twice, being yanked off a flight and at one point were a full day (or two) behind the leading teams and still managed to pull it off, which was great.
I too, would have loved :<3 Dustin & Kandice :<3 to win. But all 3 deserved it.
Charla & Mirna deserved to be in the Final 3 as much as any other team. They may not be very athletic, nor calm [in certain situations] (cue *$20 to eat food..I give you* scene :lol:) but I would'nt say they are not smart. They are very good with their airport maneuvers and know how to work it to their advantage.
United Airlines to Honolulu :luvya:
Eric and Danielle deserved it most after Dustin and Kandice. It was definitely a very weak all star season. Eric might have competed very well, but Danielle was definitely not a great competitor. I can't agree with you about Charla and Mirna though. They were not smart, they were just sneaky. The only thing that they were good at was finding their way onto better flights. They were also terrible navigators. They payed everyone to get them to locations.
Amazing Race Fan, I finally have found something I can wholeheartedly agree with you on. I believe that Dustin/Kandice did deserve the win, but their taxi karma from Oakland airport to the Grateful Dead House was their downfall.
In spite of agreeing with you on that, I totally disagree on your characterization of AR11 as "a weak season." WRP and CBS adopted the basic policy of no season winners (except for Uchenna/Joyce), so that eliminated some strong teams form consideration, including certainly Rob/Brennan, Chris/Alex, Chip/Reichen and BJ/Tyler. However, AR11 did feature some dynamite #2 teams from their seasons: Rob/Amber Eric/Danielle (substituting for the stronger Jeremy) Ian/Teri
Other very strong teams were: Joe/Bill #3 Dustin/Kandice #4 Oswald/Danny #4 Kevin/Drew #4 (or so we thought until we saw them perform in AR11) Charla/Mirna #6 (eliminated earlier than expected due to aggressive flight selection)
The only weak but highly popular teams were: John Vito/Jill #5 David/Mary #6
the average ordinal placement was #3.55, halfway between 3rd and 4th.
So let's look at the same statistics for AR18:
Season Winners - none #2 teams - Jaime/Cara, Ron/Christina, Jet/Cord #3 team - Margie/Luke #4 teams - LaKeisha/Jennifer, Herb/Nate #5 teams - Gary/Mallory, Kent/Vyxsin #6 team - Mel/Mike #8 team - Amanda/Kris #9 team - Zev/Justin
The average ordinal placement is 4.55, exactly one place on average worse than for AR11. My conclusion is that AR11 had much stronger teams than AR18. The desire to allow retribution for the bad things that happened to Amanda/Kris and Zev/Justin pulled the ordinal placement higher by quite a bit. Besides the statistics, I personally believe that AR11 was a strong season.
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
My question for you is why watch TAR if you don't even trust your own host and producers? I guess none of the seasons will be good enough for you since if the producers rigged TAR7, they most likely rigged every other race IYO?
I just find it unacceptable that people till this day, still believe that the producers rigged the show so that Uchenna and Joyce win the race? Hello, then i think they would have rigged the race many times for more popular teams to win?? (Dustin and Kandice, Kris and Jon??) :groan:
And of course, Dustin and Kandice did deserve to win Allstars, but the fact remains that they didn't and Danielle's gossipy attitude allowed her to share almost all her feelings/thoughts/emotions with allowed him to read her accurately.
I didn't say that the producers rigged the show for them to win, but I think they rigged the show to make it more competitive at the end. If Rob and Amber were the only team to make that plane, and they were ahead by 30 minutes when they got to Miami, the winner would already be known. By letting Uchenna and Joyce on the plane, it made it more competitive at the end. I can 100% assure you that the pilot didn't say, Why don't we wait 10 minutes for any people that might be late? Planes don't work like that. If you are even 1 minute late, they don't let you on the plane. There were exceptions made for Uchenna and Joyce. There is no doubt about it. If anyone here does not think that BVM and CBS alter the show to make it more entertaining, than you are just naive about TAR.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on February 05, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
My question for you is why watch TAR if you don't even trust your own host and producers? I guess none of the seasons will be good enough for you since if the producers rigged TAR7, they most likely rigged every other race IYO?
I just find it unacceptable that people till this day, still believe that the producers rigged the show so that Uchenna and Joyce win the race? Hello, then i think they would have rigged the race many times for more popular teams to win?? (Dustin and Kandice, Kris and Jon??) :groan:
And of course, Dustin and Kandice did deserve to win Allstars, but the fact remains that they didn't and Danielle's gossipy attitude allowed her to share almost all her feelings/thoughts/emotions with allowed him to read her accurately.
I didn't say that the producers rigged the show for them to win, but I think they rigged the show to make it more competitive at the end. If Rob and Amber were the only team to make that plane, and they were ahead by 30 minutes when they got to Miami, the winner would already be known. By letting Uchenna and Joyce on the plane, it made it more competitive at the end. I can 100% assure you that the pilot didn't say, Why don't we wait 10 minutes for any people that might be late? Planes don't work like that. If you are even 1 minute late, they don't let you on the plane. There were exceptions made for Uchenna and Joyce. There is no doubt about it. If anyone here does not think that BVM and CBS alter the show to make it more entertaining, than you are just naive about TAR.
Yes, they do alter the show. By editing
Case in point- In TAR 6, during a run to the Pit Stop, Victoria seemed to catch sight of Hayden and Aaron behind them, however, departure times for the next leg showed a roughly half hour difference.
But it really doesn't matter. If words from the pilot himself aren't enough for you, I doubt you even believe that the entire race isn't scripted.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
And TAR 18 is NOT called an AllStars season.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on February 06, 2011, 12:43:16 AM
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
Also, certain teams(perhaps originally intended to be alternates) were there in All-Stars because other teams were'nt available. (Colin & Christie, Flo & Drew?, Wil .etc)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 06, 2011, 05:10:16 AM
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
Also, certain teams(perhaps originally intended to be alternates) were there in All-Stars because other teams were'nt available. (Colin & Christie, Flo & Drew?, Wil .etc)
Placement of teams is true, but none of the teams besides the cowboys, herb and nate and Margie and Luke came across as competitive teams this season. All the others had their fair share of really bad legs or either, eliminated early. In fact, Cowboys came in last on a NEL and Herb and Nate nearly got eliminated in Dubai. So basically, the only literally "strong team" who has performed well throughout their season and made the finale would only be Margie and Luke.
The rest are all fairly strong teams.. but there have been really strong teams who have not been invited back, so how does that count? Where's Jill and Thomas, Terence and Sarah and Ken and Tina, who remains to be one of the few teams on TAR to do a hat trick by winning 3 legs in a row.
The theme for this season is simple, you just have to make an impression, for the producers to like you and an interesting team storyline, didn't win the race AND AVAILABLE FOR THE RACE in order to be picked. There you go, you have UB teams. :)
And of course, the producers must have deemed TAR 14 as one of their best seasons to invite back 5/11 teams? :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: redskevin88 on February 06, 2011, 05:52:21 AM
my gut feeling, and this is only a gut feeling, was that producers considered the TAR 13 season to be a "filler" season because of the Writer's Strike and thus, does not really count to what the producers consider "canonical" and thus, ignored the season... the tasks seemed "stale" and "recycled" and they seemed to quickly fill the cast, with no balance.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on February 06, 2011, 06:26:55 AM
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
What about the AR18 inclusion of Mel and MIke? That's about the equivalent of putting David and Mary in AR11 for their popularity only. Also, I know some will not agree with this, but I consider Nate and Herb to be a team of only moderate performance. I also consider Gary/Mallory to be a popular team who had only moderate performance.
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Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 06, 2011, 09:19:48 AM
Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
My question for you is why watch TAR if you don't even trust your own host and producers? I guess none of the seasons will be good enough for you since if the producers rigged TAR7, they most likely rigged every other race IYO?
I just find it unacceptable that people till this day, still believe that the producers rigged the show so that Uchenna and Joyce win the race? Hello, then i think they would have rigged the race many times for more popular teams to win?? (Dustin and Kandice, Kris and Jon??) :groan:
And of course, Dustin and Kandice did deserve to win Allstars, but the fact remains that they didn't and Danielle's gossipy attitude allowed her to share almost all her feelings/thoughts/emotions with allowed him to read her accurately.
I didn't say that the producers rigged the show for them to win, but I think they rigged the show to make it more competitive at the end. If Rob and Amber were the only team to make that plane, and they were ahead by 30 minutes when they got to Miami, the winner would already be known. By letting Uchenna and Joyce on the plane, it made it more competitive at the end. I can 100% assure you that the pilot didn't say, Why don't we wait 10 minutes for any people that might be late? Planes don't work like that. If you are even 1 minute late, they don't let you on the plane. There were exceptions made for Uchenna and Joyce. There is no doubt about it. If anyone here does not think that BVM and CBS alter the show to make it more entertaining, than you are just naive about TAR.
Yes, they do alter the show. By editing
Case in point- In TAR 6, during a run to the Pit Stop, Victoria seemed to catch sight of Hayden and Aaron behind them, however, departure times for the next leg showed a roughly half hour difference.
But it really doesn't matter. If words from the pilot himself aren't enough for you, I doubt you even believe that the entire race isn't scripted.
I don't believe it entirely. Planes are not just held for regular people. If you have some special celebrity status or something like that, than you might have a plane held for you. The excuse about the plane was malfunctioning was just a cover up.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 06, 2011, 09:23:48 AM
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
Also, certain teams(perhaps originally intended to be alternates) were there in All-Stars because other teams were'nt available. (Colin & Christie, Flo & Drew?, Wil .etc)
I agree if all teams were available, than season 11 and 18 would be pretty even. The difference between 18 is that, every team that we thought deserved to be on season 18 was. Lets say if Jet and Cord, FT and BE and Margie and Luke were not available, than season 11 would be stronger. The difference is that every originally intended team, maybe with the exception of Brook and Claire, was available to be on another season.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on February 06, 2011, 09:31:20 AM
The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
What about the AR18 inclusion of Mel and MIke? That's about the equivalent of putting David and Mary in AR11 for their popularity only. Also, I know some will not agree with this, but I consider Nate and Herb to be a team of only moderate performance. I also consider Gary/Mallory to be a popular team who had only moderate performance.
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Mel and Mike are a much stronger team than David and Mary. I agree that Mel and Mike probably didn't deserve to make TAR 18. How can you really consider FT and BE to only be a team of moderate performance? They finished in the Top 3 in 8 of their 11 legs. They did get unlucky with the word "FRANZ", but they were definitely a strong team.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DrRox on February 06, 2011, 09:42:43 AM
I don't believe it entirely. Planes are not just held for regular people. If you have some special celebrity status or something like that, than you might have a plane held for you. The excuse about the plane was malfunctioning was just a cover up.
In the 5-6 years since TAR7 was filmed, you are the first person that has every mentioned a plane malfunction. Where did that come from?
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: DrRox on February 06, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
That was some deep research. Thanks DrRox!! :tup: :hearts:
Thanks for the props, but I really didn't have much to do with it. All the work as done by my AA pilot friend. There used to be a lot of American expats that retired to Rio. They had a sidewalk cafe in Copacabana where they would hang out. I meet the pilot there. He would come by when he had flights to Rio. He mostly flew to BsAs and SP. He was senior enough to get what rotations he wanted. A few times a year, AA would schedule 777s to Rio. Most of the time Mia-GIG were all on 767s.
We were sitting around one afternoon and I just kidded him about AA helping "fix" an American reality program. He took a little umbrage at that and asked if I would send him a copy of the episode. I sent him a VHS copy after I returned home. After he watched the episode, his terse email comment was......."I don't know what happened, but it didn't happen like that!!!"
From then on, he was on a mission. If I remember right, it took him about 6 months to piece together the events. As Judge Judy says....."If it doesn't make sense, it didnt happen."
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: docol on February 06, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
my favourite season was season 10 because: the cast was GREAT...the route was amazing...the unpredictable results, the drama, the alliances, the flips, the backstabbs..in general was a great season...despite of the winners and the final 3..!!!!!!!!!!!! my second favourite season was season 14....the teams were so memorable, the tasks were pretty much cool, the final three was ok( i'd rather have kisha&jenn instead of margie&luke) but the route was phenomenal..!!!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2011, 11:22:15 AM
my gut feeling, and this is only a gut feeling, was that producers considered the TAR 13 season to be a "filler" season because of the Writer's Strike and thus, does not really count to what the producers consider "canonical" and thus, ignored the season... the tasks seemed "stale" and "recycled" and they seemed to quickly fill the cast, with no balance.
The way I understand it...the feeling was that Season 13 was just too "nice". Not enough drama... :lol:
Oh please. :groan:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Belle Book on February 06, 2011, 05:29:07 PM
my gut feeling, and this is only a gut feeling, was that producers considered the TAR 13 season to be a "filler" season because of the Writer's Strike and thus, does not really count to what the producers consider "canonical" and thus, ignored the season... the tasks seemed "stale" and "recycled" and they seemed to quickly fill the cast, with no balance.
The way I understand it...the feeling was that Season 13 was just too "nice". Not enough drama... :lol:
Oh please. :groan:
Really? Well, I can understand the lack of drama in terms of the fact that Nick & Starr tended to dominate the Race, but I actually thought Season 17 had a lot of nicer teams than Seaon 13.
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on February 06, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
my gut feeling, and this is only a gut feeling, was that producers considered the TAR 13 season to be a "filler" season because of the Writer's Strike and thus, does not really count to what the producers consider "canonical" and thus, ignored the season... the tasks seemed "stale" and "recycled" and they seemed to quickly fill the cast, with no balance.
The way I understand it...the feeling was that Season 13 was just too "nice". Not enough drama... :lol:
Oh please. :groan:
I thought Kelly & Christy provided the drama. :lol:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 06, 2011, 07:50:14 PM
Honestly, the teams on TAR 13 are dull and boring. The only interesting few personas i can remember was Tina and Kelly and Christy. The rest of the teams were forgettable. And i do remember Terence and Sarah being ultra competitive too.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 06, 2011, 08:14:11 PM
Apskip
I have to disagree with you about All Stars Dustin & Kandice, D&K didn't run a great leg during the final leg. Eric & Danielle ran a stronger leg in Hawaii in every aspect (which in fact was the bulk of the episode) and even if they had a bad cab (which is true) they failed the task (which frankly I hated that they let teams progress even if they didn't complete the task), sure they ran several legs better then Eric & Danielle (legs 5, 7,8,9, 10 and 12), and Eric & Danielle ran better legs in eps 1,2,3,4,11, 13). Leg 6 its truly impossible to judge how teams fast teams actually performed that days task, thinks to the long boat ride. If the boat ride took the same period of time for each trip, Eric & Danielle actually finished the days tasks faster then any team, but since I am sure that isn't the case its hard to judge, we do know that Dustin & Kandice took more then 35 minutes longer to complete then their boat partners.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 06, 2011, 08:22:20 PM
Honestly, the teams on TAR 13 are dull and boring. The only interesting few personas i can remember was Tina and Kelly and Christy. The rest of the teams were forgettable. And i do remember Terence and Sarah being ultra competitive too.
I hope Toni & Dallas haunt you for the rest of your natural life....
But in all seriousness there is very little I like about this season. I found the Kelly & Christy and Nick & Starr feud childish. Terrance just annoyed me to no end, seriously he just bothered me, and not in anyway that is entertaining. Dandrew while entertaining were clearly clueless and I hate to see clueless people make it far in the race (but them in Russia was a hoot). I liked Nick & Starr, Ken & Tina, and Toni & Dallas, and really only one of those teams did I really love. I also have a special hatred for this season being the season with the least amount of driving for teams to do. And all of it in English speaking countries. Hatred for this. If it wasn't for the never ending equalizations of the Family Edition this would be in my opinion the worst seasons of TAR.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: phant0m on February 06, 2011, 08:50:49 PM
Season 1 is the most underrated season imo
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Rogue on February 06, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
The way I understand it...the feeling was that Season 13 was just too "nice". Not enough drama... :lol:
Oh please. :groan:
Makes you wonder what they think about this season...Although I'm sure the f/f win helps.
My favorite season would have to be 17. Mostly for memory sake but I loved some of the cast, I liked the locations, and the tasks were pretty decent. I barely remember the tasks and usually always forget the locations of the previous seasons but I hope this one sticks with me. It gave me my new favorite team, Nat and Kat, and as an on again off again viewer (not purposely), this season brought a sense of maturity that was definitely lacking in season 16. After 17 would be season 6 and only because it's my season 1. I just happened upon the show and it brought me my, up until 17, favorite team, Kris and Jon. It also began and ended in my home city. The biggest downfall about season 6 is it spawned one of the most hated, and with good reason, contestants in TAR history.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 06, 2011, 09:23:10 PM
Honestly, the teams on TAR 13 are dull and boring. The only interesting few personas i can remember was Tina and Kelly and Christy. The rest of the teams were forgettable. And i do remember Terence and Sarah being ultra competitive too.
I hope Toni & Dallas haunt you for the rest of your natural life....
But in all seriousness there is very little I like about this season. I found the Kelly & Christy and Nick & Starr feud childish. Terrance just annoyed me to no end, seriously he just bothered me, and not in anyway that is entertaining. Dandrew while entertaining were clearly clueless and I hate to see clueless people make it far in the race (but them in Russia was a hoot). I liked Nick & Starr, Ken & Tina, and Toni & Dallas, and really only one of those teams did I really love. I also have a special hatred for this season being the season with the least amount of driving for teams to do. And all of it in English speaking countries. Hatred for this. If it wasn't for the never ending equalizations of the Family Edition this would be in my opinion the worst seasons of TAR.
Toni and Dallas makes a good team.. but it's like.. compared to Margie/Luke, Ron/Chris and Gary/Mallory.. i'll rather watch the other parent/child teams race rather than them.. they're just deemed as nice/good racers because the other teams are milder as comparable. IMHO..
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 07, 2011, 01:11:07 AM
I loathe Ron & Christine, well Ron. The way he treated other racers, his own daughter, locals, and a judge on the race was simply acceptable. By all accounts of the footage (both online and aired, and by the other racers the worst behaved person of that season).
And while he did learn to appreciate his daughter (with about a third of the season left), that doesn't change how he treated her the other 2/3rd (let alone the other racers, locals, and judges). And frankly I can accept friends being an ass, or even some one you are dating, after all you can choose another friend, or another person to date, you can't choose your family. I hold them to higher standard then anyone. Not once in my entire 45 years has my parents ever treated or spoken to me like he did to her.
It would be like Jonathan finally being nice to Victoria with 3 episodes left, I wouldn't care.
Gary & Mallory I do really like, but Toni & Dallas had far more fun and humor between them (I mean seriously just for the Cow alone).
MArgie & Like I also really loved. But I hated the conflict with others, at least with Toni & Dallas they never conflicted with other teams. But they are my two favorite parent child teams in race history. But in all honesty the last couple seasons has been really good about casting some nice parent child teams, Steve & Allie, Gary & Mallory are certainly up there as well.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 07, 2011, 01:21:56 AM
I loathe Ron & Christine, well Ron. The way he treated other racers, his own daughter, locals, and a judge on the race was simply acceptable. By all accounts of the footage (both online and aired, and by the other racers the worst behaved person of that season).
And while he did learn to appreciate his daughter (with about a third of the season left), that doesn't change how he treated her the other 2/3rd (let alone the other racers, locals, and judges). And frankly I can accept friends being an ass, or even some one you are dating, after all you can choose another friend, or another person to date, you can't choose your family. I hold them to higher standard then anyone. Not once in my entire 45 years has my parents ever treated or spoken to me like he did to her.
It would be like Jonathan finally being nice to Victoria with 3 episodes left, I wouldn't care.
Gary & Mallory I do really like, but Toni & Dallas had far more fun and humor between them (I mean seriously just for the Cow alone).
MArgie & Like I also really loved. But I hated the conflict with others, at least with Toni & Dallas they never conflicted with other teams. But they are my two favorite parent child teams in race history. But in all honesty the last couple seasons has been really good about casting some nice parent child teams, Steve & Allie, Gary & Mallory are certainly up there as well.
Steve and Allie.. how could i forget them. Maybe i'm just biased as an Asian.. but in the asian societies.. all our parents talk to us like that and i put myself in Christina's shoes... and Ron's one as well.. and i know how hard it is just for a Chinese father to swallow all his pride and dignity to admit his mistakes.. and start being a nice person. And mswood.. Ron didn't start behaving with only 1/3 of the episodes left.. he was all good after Ep 4 or Ep 5... they started working together and won 2 legs in a row. I know not enough for you because it's still atrocious behaviour.. but just explaining... from an asian POV.
As for Margie and Luke.. them winning the first leg is still one of the most memorable moment for TAR 14 for me and i cried along. Along the race i think they got all too competitive and forgot about having fun.. and that's when they started losing fans to other teams like T/V, C/J and K/J... but still they had their fair share of fans and to be frank, definitely one of the most memorable teams on the history of TAR.. along with Colin/Christie, Charla and Mirna and Oswald and Danny. :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 07, 2011, 01:23:57 AM
Anyway for the best season options, i picked TAR 3 and TAR 17. First season to get me hook on the race.. and of course TAR 17 because it was the best recent season to keep me hook and addicted to the show and still love it so much.
If we are allowed to pick five, i'll pick TAR 5, TAR 10 and TAR 14 too. :tup:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Caelestor on February 07, 2011, 03:21:54 AM
I don't know, Ron was more mellow than some Asian parents I know...I'm sure someone will agree with me.
I'll add that 2, 3, 5, 12, and 17 are the only races that I've managed to watch all the way through more than once. I guess those are also the seasons that have the best combination of amazing destinations, good planning, and great casts.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Jobby on February 07, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
I don't know, Ron was more mellow than some Asian parents I know...I'm sure someone will agree with me.
I'll add that 2, 3, 5, 12, and 17 are the only races that I've managed to watch all the way through more than once. I guess those are also the seasons that have the best combination of amazing destinations, good planning, and great casts.
I'll second that. Has anybody not heard of Amy Chua?? :lol3: :lol3:
Do a google search on her!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: StephenWasHere on February 13, 2011, 09:21:34 AM
Well I've developed new opinions on each season :D
1: Since that wasn't my first season, I found it a little weird, but still awesome nonetheless. Momily = best mom/daughter team EVAR! As for the F3....that wasn't neccesarily the F3 I wanted though I was extremely happy that Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita made it. Joe/Bill should've been replaced by Momily but other than that, it had a really interesting route with decent tasks.
2: I finished this season up a few weeks ago and I liked it a lot. Still not happy that Chris/Alex won...kinda wasn't fond of them. I think the route had great tasks and overall, a fairly good route though completely skipping Europe confused me a bit..though the inclusion of Australia and New Zealand was awesome! My favorite team was Gary/Dave simply because I found them quite enjoyable. Wasn't a fan of Chris/Alex but I had no issue with Tara/Wil.
3: HAHAHAHAHA YES! Finished this a few weeks ago and I LOVED IT! Definitely one of my favorites simply because of Zach/Flo. Idk why, but for some reason, I really liked Flo but thats simply because she provided some of the best race entertainment...ever. And probably the first F3 that I was actually content with all of the teams being there.
4: I simply disliked Season 4. The route was sub-par in my opinion and the tasks were just bleh. Plus Amanda/Chris got eliminated way too early...in Venice.
5: Definitely one of my favorite seasons ever. Freaking AMAZING route and tasks. Charla/Mirna were just win at life. Also has a dear place in my heart becuase that was the first season I ever saw on TV. I was 11 when it aired and while I liked it, it was the 1st Egypt leg that got me hooked.
6: Meh......Ok route, good cast. Wasn't so much a Lena/Kristy fan so I wasn't too upset with their elimination. I just thought it was a bad circumstance
7: I liked Romber, Uchenna/Joyce, and Meredith/Gretchen. Bad route and just ok tasks. Overall bleh season
8: Lost interest after the Gaghan's were eliminated to be honest.
9: One of my favorite routes and it had fairly good tasks. The cast was all right too....and by cast I mean Dave/Lori, Fran/Barry, and MoJo.
10: Kentucky <3333333333
11: Just...no....the lack of D/K and C/M winning is just awful.
12: TK and Rachel become the most hated winners EVER!!!!!!!!
13: Another one of my favorites! But my favorites, Mark/Bill were eliminated WAYYY too early. I WAS NOT A FAN OF KELLY AND CHRISTY! NICK AND STARR FTW!!!!
14: I honestly didn't like it....to me it was just ok. Only thing that kept me watching was Margie/Luke..who were and still are my favorites from that season.
15: Zev/Justin and Ron/Marcy....two of the best teams EVAR!! So of course they make my two favorites place 9th and 10th....cool. Good route but ok tasks.
16: Cowboys FTW! I really don't get the Jet/Cord hate. Honestly, after Jordeff and Steve/Allie were eliminated, they were honestly the only reason I cared about that season anymore...except maybe the epic fight to the death that Carol/Brandy and Brent/Caite would hae.
17: Good winners! First time in a while! Decent route and honestly, the only way that F3 would've been better is if Gallory was in it.
18: I'm assuming I'll stop genuinely caring if Zev/Justin get eliminated but if they do (which would make me super upset) I'd root for Gallory and Rontina
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: connayyy on February 13, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
I loathe Ron & Christine, well Ron. The way he treated other racers, his own daughter, locals, and a judge on the race was simply acceptable. By all accounts of the footage (both online and aired, and by the other racers the worst behaved person of that season).
And while he did learn to appreciate his daughter (with about a third of the season left), that doesn't change how he treated her the other 2/3rd (let alone the other racers, locals, and judges). And frankly I can accept friends being an ass, or even some one you are dating, after all you can choose another friend, or another person to date, you can't choose your family. I hold them to higher standard then anyone. Not once in my entire 45 years has my parents ever treated or spoken to me like he did to her.
It would be like Jonathan finally being nice to Victoria with 3 episodes left, I wouldn't care.
Gary & Mallory I do really like, but Toni & Dallas had far more fun and humor between them (I mean seriously just for the Cow alone).
MArgie & Like I also really loved. But I hated the conflict with others, at least with Toni & Dallas they never conflicted with other teams. But they are my two favorite parent child teams in race history. But in all honesty the last couple seasons has been really good about casting some nice parent child teams, Steve & Allie, Gary & Mallory are certainly up there as well.
I'm Chinese and while I see your point, I think that with Ron yelling at Chris, it's a cultural difference. It's hard to explain because of course it sounds appalling to hear a father criticize and even insult his daughter. But from an Asian viewpoint, it's not a big deal. You get used to the criticism. That's just how Asian society works - you can be blunt about what you want to say, because the listener won't be offended.
I don't mean to make excuses for Ron because I didn't particularly like him either. I didn't like how he told off Nick (this part is unaccounted for because Chinese education does teach you to be humble - guess Ron missed that lesson. But to his credit, he did apologize for it.) I do love the other teams you mentioned, though! Gary & Mallory, Toni & Dallas, and Margie & Luke are all up in my all time favorite teams. :wohoo:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: mswood on February 14, 2011, 12:49:41 AM
See I know various cultures and have different ways of interacting, but at some level I just don't care.
I mean this does go to so many different racers throughout the various seasons. And I don't loathe Ron (or anything) but out of that season's cast he was the one who's behavior bothered me the most (there have been, far, far, far worse behaved racers), and the fact that Ron pretty much gave grief to so many didn't help.
For examples some people's conflicts are always internal between their team, nice to locals, and other racers. Some racers are great with their partner and assholes to locals, some are great with locals and their teammate but terrible with locals, ect, ect. But we have documented times of Ron being mean to his daughter, to fellow racers, to race judges (seriously at the time that was a first), to locals. And in most cases (except the race judge) it wasn't just an isolated case.
Like for example the Nathan & Jennifer had far more internal conflict, but it was almost all direct towards each other (even if it was about others).
I think its primarily the fact that its a parent child relationship, and that Christina did feel hurt by his words. If they normally talked that way without the other taking offense thats one thing. But she often commented on that it made her feel bad.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Rogue on February 14, 2011, 03:05:21 AM
I am just watching season 13 for the first time and I just finished the second India leg. Unlike a couple of the other seasons when I saw bits and pieces, I had never seen any of this season until now. I know some details from this season though. I know who makes the F3 and I know who wins but out of those three teams, so far I don't really care for any of them. I don't like Tina, she is just so annoying to me. And Nick looks like a fake Ken doll. Mark and Bill seemed pretty nice but they were gone so fast they aren't that memorable. But they have a strong fan base so they're not easy to forget either. And for the most part, they're likable. I liked Aja and Ty but they aren't that memorable either. I also like Toni and Dallas. You can see that they have a very good relationship. I like Sarah but Terrence, that man is a whiner! Sarah outmanned him on the race. I'm just waiting to see him wimp out on the food challenge.
As far as the places they've been, the most memorable for me at this point is the second India leg during the Holi Festival. I saw this in a movie before and it seemed even more cool to see them be part of it on the race. What made it even more interesting was how clueless Kelly and Christy were in deciding they should take one envelope at a time instead of staying there to find the correct envelope. Maybe it's just that in the moment with everything being so busy around them they didn't get it at first.
But just where I am right now, this would definitely not be in my top of favorite seasons and it's mostly because of the cast.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: connayyy on February 19, 2011, 08:05:27 PM
See I know various cultures and have different ways of interacting, but at some level I just don't care.
I mean this does go to so many different racers throughout the various seasons. And I don't loathe Ron (or anything) but out of that season's cast he was the one who's behavior bothered me the most (there have been, far, far, far worse behaved racers), and the fact that Ron pretty much gave grief to so many didn't help.
For examples some people's conflicts are always internal between their team, nice to locals, and other racers. Some racers are great with their partner and assholes to locals, some are great with locals and their teammate but terrible with locals, ect, ect. But we have documented times of Ron being mean to his daughter, to fellow racers, to race judges (seriously at the time that was a first), to locals. And in most cases (except the race judge) it wasn't just an isolated case.
Like for example the Nathan & Jennifer had far more internal conflict, but it was almost all direct towards each other (even if it was about others).
I think its primarily the fact that its a parent child relationship, and that Christina did feel hurt by his words. If they normally talked that way without the other taking offense thats one thing. But she often commented on that it made her feel bad.
I totally get what you're saying. And that's kind of the cultural difference I was talking about; Christina grew up in America and Ron grew up in Taiwan (I'm assuming). What I mean is that in Taiwan/China, everyone is blunt and a little bit critical, not just your parents. So when your parents do criticize you, it's not a big deal, because you know that everyone else's parents are that way too. In America, it wasn't everyone, it was just Chris's dad, so she did get hurt by it. Since nobody else's parents were like that, it would be easy to think "maybe it's something with me." Ron just didn't realize that at first.
Just trying to explain it from my perspective since I'm Taiwanese too. :lol: I actually do agree with everything you said, though! And it was very out of line for him to be rude to other people, so that was the part that got to me. Criticizing his daughter wasn't acceptable but being rude to a race judge, that was just bizarre...
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Prophet on May 12, 2011, 09:11:06 AM
I hope we see a return to epicly hard and entertaining tasks like some of the stuff we saw in seasons 14 and 15.
TAR15 may have had the best tasks ever. Who can forget the haybale switchback or the dutch farmers detour or both detour options in the first Dubai leg. I could go on. The penultimate leg that year was epic in task design but it did not stand alone, just reflected the great tasks there had been that year.
And there's always EAT THE WASABI!!!
(edit: I forgot the tiny instruments!)
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on May 12, 2011, 10:05:23 AM
Original Seasons <3!!
I demand the return of the original intro, with original theme song and the cheesy headturns! :jam:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Competitor on May 12, 2011, 10:32:57 AM
I hope we see a return to epicly hard and entertaining tasks like some of the stuff we saw in seasons 14 and 15.
TAR15 may have had the best tasks ever. Who can forget the haybale switchback or the dutch farmers detour or both detour options in the first Dubai leg. I could go on. The penultimate leg that year was epic in task design but it did not stand alone, just reflected the great tasks there had been that year.
And there's always EAT THE WASABI!!!
(edit: I forgot the tiny instruments!)
I agree whole-heartedly. Season 15 was very under-rated in my opinion. Great season.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on May 21, 2011, 11:21:36 AM
I liked season five in that they visited every inhabited continent.
I only count 5. They never visited Australia.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Prophet on May 21, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
What continent is New Zealand part of?
Interestingly enough New Zealand is not considered part of the continent of Australia. Australia only officially includes itself along with Guinea and parts of Indonesia. Apparently in an effort to give places like New Zealand a continent the concept of Oceania was created but it's boundaries and the question of whether it is a continent are disputed.
I'm not sure who decided all this ??? Maybe a geography expert here can explain.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on May 21, 2011, 11:42:09 AM
Interestingly enough New Zealand is not considered part of the continent of Australia. Australia only officially includes itself along with Guinea and parts of Indonesia. Apparently in an effort to give places like New Zealand a continent the concept of Oceania was created but it's boundaries and the question of whether it is a continent are disputed.
I'm not sure who decided all this ??? Maybe a geography expert here can explain.
The continent is Australia (Including Tasmania), Papua New Guinea and the part of Indonesia directly attatched. It's all one big landmass, but a lot of it is submerged. New Zealand is on a different continental shelf.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Coutzy on May 22, 2011, 12:56:15 AM
Technically speaking yes, but the generally accepted way is Oceania/Australia are one continent.
Oceania is a region, Australia is a continent.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Carter on May 22, 2011, 08:29:48 PM
I voted TAR 2 & 7
TAR 2 has one of the most epic intros I have ever seen, it's like a new fresh start from TAR 1 (which had slow pacing), the quick sunrise behind the mountains and one of the coolest theme music played, then pan to the Salty Desert Flats of Pahrump, Nevada. This intro gives me goosebumps, and some of the most memorable teams to ever compete so far participated.
TAR 7 because of the drama, the amazing drive through the mountain pass of the Andes (what a spectacular location), they never do these things anymore.. Meredith & Gretchen was an amazing couple, and I also remember the african leg where they had beds right in the middle of freakin' nowhere in the desert. So strange, and yet so fun. The sneakiness of Rob & Amber made it different and exciting.
If I could chose, I would add TAR 5 & 6 as well, but these two sticks out for me.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: amazing race fan on May 22, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
Season 10 for me. Dustin and Kandice were my favorite team ever on the show. I also really liked James and Tyler. I liked the route also. It wasn't the best route or best cast or best tasks but I just really liked season 10.
Season 5 was amazing as well. Colin was the most competitive person on the history of the show. No one will surpass him.
Season 7 was great as well. Best ending ever. I still am upset that Uchenna and Joyce got on the final plane.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: AmazingRace on May 22, 2011, 10:16:42 PM
I just rewatched Season 10, and I have to agree!
One of the best seasons ever. Amazing cast (DK <3), and awesome locations! :hearts:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: apskip on May 25, 2011, 05:16:39 PM
Technically speaking yes, but the generally accepted way is Oceania/Australia are one continent.
Oceania is a region, Australia is a continent.
The idea of a region is problematic. Grouping people into one group and characteristics has its flaws. No one in "Oceania" says they are "Oceanian", rather they say they are New Zealander, or Tongan etc..
(Sorry if I got carried away I am majoring in Geography...)
Here's one where I think there is no absolute standard and both of you can be right. Oceania is a region centered on the islands of the tropical Pacific Ocean. Conceptions of what constitutes Oceania range from the coral atolls and volcanic islands of the South Pacific (ethnologically divided into the subregions of Melanesia, Micronesia, and Polynesia) to the entire insular region between Asia and the Americas, including Australasia and the Malay Archipelago. The term is sometimes used more specifically to denote a continent comprising Australia and proximate islands or biogeographically as a synonym for either the Australasian ecozone (Wallacea and Australasia) or the Pacific ecozone (Melanesia, Polynesia, and Micronesia apart either from New Zealand or from mainland New Guinea).
Now, for those of you who, like me, have never heard the geographic entity Wallacea before, her is what it is: Wallacea is a biogeographical designation for a group of Indonesian islands separated by deep water straits from the Asian and Australian continental shelves. Wallacea includes Sulawesi, the largest island in the group, as well as Lombok, Sumbawa, Flores, Sumba, Timor, Halmahera, Buru, Seram, and many smaller islands. The islands of Wallacea lie between Sundaland (the Malay Peninsula, Sumatra, Borneo, Java, and Bali) to the west, and Near Oceania including Australia and New Guinea to the south and east.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Dom on August 14, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
I've got to say, I dont really understand the hate for season 13. Ken & Tina, Terrence & Sarah and Toni & Dallas were all memorable teams. The rest were a bit bland but we were treated to Phil's dad along the way!
It also featured what I think was the.funniest moment in TAR history, the frat boys trying to complete the boot camp detour!
Sure its not one of the best, but I dont believe its one of the worst!
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: dryedmangoez on August 14, 2011, 10:27:49 PM
TAR3 and TAR5 are the best in my eyes.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: GabyM on August 16, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
I liked season 16...other than the lesbians, I liked everyone else on there...even Joe & Heidi, since they took their elimination with class and didn't feel the need to constantly insult Mike & Louie for U-Turning them.
Season 7 was pretty good too, since I liked both Uchenna & Joyce and Romber and would've been happy with one of those two winning...plus the brothers were a pretty funny team as well, and major bonus points to the producers for choosing a roadblock that was designed to help a local orphanage
Contrary to popular opinion, I also really enjoyed season 12...one of the few times that I liked every single team in the final 3, and of course we had the awesomeness that were Kent & Vyxsin
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: kevin2012 on August 25, 2011, 01:15:16 AM
For me, Season 3 is the definition of perfection, every single uninteresting team is eliminated early, the locations are great, the tasks are awesome, the editing is epic, I love it. It's perfect all around
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Competitor on August 25, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Why hasn't anyone voted for Family Edition? :lol3:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Belle Book on August 26, 2011, 09:52:36 AM
Why hasn't anyone voted for Family Edition? :lol3:
Because most people think it was the worst. I personally didn't think it was the worst -- I liked the winners -- but I wouldn't have put it as the best, either!
Belle Book
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy591 on February 22, 2015, 06:47:13 PM
This is purely my opinion, but I would rank all seasons as follows:
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Alenaveda on February 22, 2015, 06:59:12 PM
:hello2: and :bigwelcome to the R.F.F., Wadsy591 !
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 25, 2015, 12:10:21 AM
Personally, season 5 is one of those special unpredictable races that expanded depth as the race progressed. None of its teams were left in the dust by editors, the route covered every inhabited continent to create a wonderful journey around the world, tasks almost always revolved around the true livelihood and culture of the visited countries/locales, and incidental troubles that occurred throughout the season were all jaw-dropping moments ~ especially when Jim - I believe - was accidentally trampled at Santa Monica Pier start and began profusely bleeding. I thought I was going to faint in shock when the ambulance had to be driven in that early in the race. That single moment is when I realized TAR5 is going to be a "kill or be killed" (idiom :whew) race. And after the finale in Dallas, it became my most favorite season ever! Of course, I must commemorate Charla & Mirna for coining the TAR term "airport drama", Colin's "My ox is broken!", and Bob & Joyce's endearing love for each other. Honorable mentions will go out to Linda & Karen scaling Lagen Wall and their good-hearted Egyptian tour bus motherload, and Kim's "don't care" attitude at Chip.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy on February 13, 2021, 03:50:44 AM
My personal favourite is TAR6. In saying that, seasons 5-7 were easily the golden years of TAR along with TAR 3. I could not find a season that matched the qualities of these four to this point, though maybe the first season would be close.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: LandonM170 on February 18, 2021, 02:41:01 PM
I voted for Seasons 5 and 7!!
I did a rewatch of S5 recently, and I hadn't seen it in probably like 4 years. I forgot how good it was, and it reminded me why I love that season so much; S7 I need to do a rewatch on. I probably haven't seen it in 2 years. However, from what I remember I loved it, and the South Africa leg was a little boring. The season as a whole was amazing!
My top 5 is probably: TAR 5 TAR 7 TAR 17 TAR 25 TAR 12
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Nuku on February 18, 2021, 02:42:55 PM
So i only watched from 21 onward....
dont @ me but my fav season is either 30 or 25
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy on February 22, 2021, 03:57:59 AM
I am not nearly as much of a fan of the newer seasons as I am of the older ones but I would say 21, 29 and 30 would probably be the best of them I reckon. I used to love 22 but the second half is pretty underwhelming.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: tennis33 on February 23, 2021, 12:30:29 AM
I have just recently watched Amazing Race Australia 2 and that is hands down the best season IMO. The teams carry the season and are so much fun from Lucy and Emelia, Team Hunners/Botox, Paul and Steve, The hairdressers, Jo and Michelle, plus the winners and more. All of the teams are memorable and awesome! There are many memorable moments like a team getting full on arrested!!! There were fun tasks and a great route. Bad final leg but the others make up. I don’t think I have ever enjoyed a season more then that.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Traveldude1 on March 07, 2021, 09:46:09 AM
TAR 21 and TAR 3 are the two best seasons of the show.
TAR 3 has a cast that is very likable except for Aaron and Arianne. The route is nearly perfect with visits to Mexico, Switzerland, and Vietnam. The only knock against the route is the single Moroccan leg where Andre and Damon get detained but otherwise it is a strong route. The elimination order could've been slightly better, but it's not enough to make me hate the season.
TAR 21 is similar to the season above except that it also has nice winners, whether they were deserving of it or not. Many of the teams this season are really likable except for Natalie and Nadiya, whom I found to be too "loud" for me. The route was really nice with the first being heavily focused on Bangladesh, China, and Indonesia. And the second half being focused on Russia, Spain, and France. The season has a lot of dark humor too and it also has the distinction of being one of the last "normal" seasons of the show before they started with the gimmicks after All-Stars. A+ season
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Wadsy on March 08, 2021, 12:45:44 PM
I agree with TAR 3 though it isn't personally my favorite, but my second overall.
When looking back at all the recent seasons which for me lack in quality compared to many of the older ones, I would have to say TAR 21 is pretty good for the same reasons you pointed out, besides Natalie & Nadiya for being plain nasty to others and influencing other teams to get rid of them. It's back half is really good and it mainly stays consistent throughout. It did have too many legs in Asia and I am still not the greatest Russia fan but it was fun throughout. It especially looks strong when compared to TAR 20 which had underwhelming locations as a whole and a mean spirited bunch (somewhat). It narrowly beats TAR 22 as that season had a weak second half and some poorly designed legs. TAR 27 is the most boring season in my opinion and could never finish it!
In terms of old seasons: 3, 5, 6 and 7 are the true winners. In regards to the more recent seasons: 18, 21, 29 and 30 are the best of the bunch.
Title: Re: Best Amazing Race Season to Date
Post by: Declive on March 08, 2021, 08:34:55 PM
I like TAR 3, 17, 18, 19, 21 and 30. To be the best one EVER...i'm hanging between 3, 18 and 21.