Good work guys!
Good work guys!
using flightaware's tuesday lax departures its easy to put 2 and 2 together on how to figure out where they went. but since we have info of no american airlines ticket buying its more likely that they prob went to tokyo than say argentina through other cities
Good work guys!
using flightaware's tuesday lax departures its easy to put 2 and 2 together on how to figure out where they went. but since we have info of no american airlines ticket buying its more likely that they prob went to tokyo than say argentina through other cities
Let's not get too enamored with a East to West itinerary. Remember TAR12 went from LAX to Ireland.
And when starting in Chicago teams went to Europe via Minneapolis, Boston and Baltimore
And will TPTB bypass South America two races in a row???
Good work guys!
using flightaware's tuesday lax departures its easy to put 2 and 2 together on how to figure out where they went. but since we have info of no american airlines ticket buying its more likely that they prob went to tokyo than say argentina through other cities
Let's not get too enamored with a East to West itinerary. Remember TAR12 went from LAX to Ireland.
And when starting in Chicago -TAR 6 - teams went to Iceland via Minneapolis, Boston and Baltimore
And will TPTB bypass South America two races in a row???
Could be the teams took United flights or American flights connecting to somewhere in South America. (Via Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami0
Good work guys!
using flightaware's tuesday lax departures its easy to put 2 and 2 together on how to figure out where they went. but since we have info of no american airlines ticket buying its more likely that they prob went to tokyo than say argentina through other cities
Let's not get too enamored with a East to West itinerary. Remember TAR12 went from LAX to Ireland.
And when starting in Chicago -TAR 6 - teams went to Iceland via Minneapolis, Boston and Baltimore
And will TPTB bypass South America two races in a row???
Could be the teams took United flights or American flights connecting to somewhere in South America. (Via Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami0
g-man the united fligth would have been to dullas not chicago, while the american flights where either chicago or miami if we are going that route if it is south america
Thanks to Peach's glorious discovery I decided to go down to LAX and check it out. Again. I had spent last Sunday afternoon there (4/20/08) and that was a bust.
But today's trip yields some new information. I found several staffers who had seen filming yesterday. One team was at the northmost main entry of Tom Bradley terminal having an interview. Not rushed.
One team was at the American Airlines terminal being interviewed off in a quiet corner.
One United Employee in the domestic terminal (#6) had heard of TAR filming (she actually said Amazing Race) that happened in the their international terminal (#7).
Two employees at the United International terminal had seen 3 teams arrive and purchase tickets at the far east end of the counters. I asked if they had seen colored flags around any where: "Any little flags stuck on the poles over there? Like red and..." And the guy said "Oh yes, Red and Gold" That's close enough for me! The gal said there was one team that was 'hippie' like with long white hair (she demonstrated with her hands at mid chest level). They were an older couple, as in, male and female. She estimated their ages to be 40's or 50's. She also mentioned the two girls and another team that was just a regular young couple in their 20's.
No employees at either AA (terminal 4) or Delta (terminal 5) had seen any ticket buying by filmed pairs going at their counters.
Per the sighting Tuesday night at Chicago, I suppose they're headed East? (As opposed to the Far East?)
I see plenty, plenty of flights from LAX to ORD (duh). But just for reference's sake, under American and United:
AA 1546: 1530 to 2130
AA 1624: 1415 to 2015
AA 2074: 1300 to 1905
AA 1890: 1525 to 2325 (probably too late)
UA 114: 1204 to 1807
UA 116: 1255 to 1855
UA 843: 1405 to 2005
UA 122: 1600 to 2152
UA 124: 1804 to 2359 (probably too late)
Does anyone know the flight time from LA to Chicago? From these times it looks like 8 hours, but from both the AA and UA sites they list times ranging around 4 hours. Computer error or something else?
Can't believe it's happening again! :jumpy:
Well, at the urging of a friend, here's my first post.
American flight 961 left Chicago at 8:52pm bound for Buenos Aires. It left out of Terminal 3, gate K11, which is primarily a domestic terminal, but does have international flights. The photo of the racer was taken at 7:08pm Chicago time by someone flying in from California, so that all seems to fit together. I also can't find any non-stop flights from LAX to Buenos Aires, so everyone would have to connect through another city.
If they flew United, it looks like those flights are routed through Dulles.
Oh, and this: Hi Peach! :waves:
ambassador
Ambassador's Speech
REMARKS BY AMBASSADOR WAYNE AT AMERICAN AIRLINES COCKTAIL RECEPTION
January 22, 2008
I want to welcome all of you this evening. It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to host this event celebrating American Airlines’ new direct flight from Chicago to Buenos Aires.
Particularly, I would like to welcome the members of our delegation from Chicago who have actually arrived via American Flight #961. Hopefully you had a smooth flight; if not there might be someone in this room you can talk to!
In July of last year, the United States and Argentina signed a Bilateral Agreement on Civil Aviation, which will allow the number of flights between our two countries to double.
I commend American Airlines for immediately seizing this opportunity as they are the first, in what I hope to be several, new flights between the U.S. and Argentina in the near future.
Perhaps most importantly, the increase in flights will facilitate greater travel between our two countries, which will help promote cultural exchange and foster business opportunities.
It is no coincidence that U.S. airline companies have had direct flights originating in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Miami, New York City, Washington D.C, and Dallas as these cities offer Argentines excellent business and tourism destinations and offer easy connections to other U.S. cities.
Now, I am hopeful that our Argentine friends will have a greater opportunity to explore the wonderful city of Chicago.
Per the sighting Tuesday night at Chicago, I suppose they're headed East? (As opposed to the Far East?)
Does anyone know the flight time from LA to Chicago? From these times it looks like 6 hours, but from both the AA and UA sites they list times ranging around 4 hours. Computer error or something else?
For those of you wanting to know how teams went on United to Buenos Aires, there is only one way they could have done it:
LAX IAD(Washington Dulles) UA862 1254 2050, then a very tight connection to
IAD EZE UA847 2145 0920+1
The comparable AA flights already stated by others have a slightly more comfortable connection in O'Hare:
LAX ORD AA2074 1300 1905
ORD EZE AA961 2010 0915+1 (Note: if this left at 852pm it was 42 minutes late and this could make it arrive after the United flight into Buenos Aires)
Oops, apskip! That was embarassing! :-[
Are there any other options from Chicago on Tuesday night we could be looking at? I don't know how to work the websites...
So the American flight was supposed to arrive 5 minutes before United, but was 42 minutes late leaving.
The United flight left 33 minutes late (left at 10:18pm EDT). If the scheduled flight time was exactly right (unlikely) the United flight would have ended up arriving 4 minutes earlier. Really close! That could add some excitement to the race.
So we've talked about 2 flights. Aren't there usually 3 flights out of the starting gate?
So the American flight was supposed to arrive 5 minutes before United, but was 42 minutes late leaving.
The United flight left 33 minutes late (left at 10:18pm EDT). If the scheduled flight time was exactly right (unlikely) the United flight would have ended up arriving 4 minutes earlier. Really close! That could add some excitement to the race.
So we've talked about 2 flights. Aren't there usually 3 flights out of the starting gate?
I can further state that my research on the American and United offical timetable websites indicates that all of the 6 basic itineraries you have developed are valid except for the one through JFK.
Okay, re airport filming:
Interestingly, Miami was being permitted until "there was a schedule change" in the last couple of weeks and they cancelled... were they really going to start there? Sounded like they thought so! ;)
Michael, it depends on what their route is. If it is this:
4/23 Brasilia
4/25 Salvador
4/26 Recife
4/28 Recife
then they might be leaving on Tuesday. If they had one less stop then they could have left today or be leaving tomorrow. If they went to Iguassu Falls and then to Paraguay and Bolivia, then they are long gone from Brazil. We just don't know at this point.
Michael, it depends on what their route is. If it is this:
4/23 Brasilia
4/25 Salvador
4/26 Recife
4/28 Recife
then they might be leaving on Tuesday. If they had one less stop then they could have left today or be leaving tomorrow. If they went to Iguassu Falls and then to Paraguay and Bolivia, then they are long gone from Brazil. We just don't know at this point.
Thanks apskip :D
I'm sure we'll hear something sooner or later
Flight Information for Selected Intra-Brazil City Pairs
SSA (Salvador) to REC (Recife) via Gol Transportes Aereos or TAM Lineas Aereas
1100 1210
1258 1408
1645 1755
1900 2015
2150 2300
SSA MAO (Manaus)
0915 1335 JJ 3304
SSA FOR (Fortaleza)
1130 1310 JJ 8003
2250 2355 G3 1604
0645 0940 G3 1642
1645 1940 JJ 3892
1940 2210 JJ 3894
SSA Belem - few long flights with lots of stops
The times fit because we have two teams sighted at around 9:30AM on April 24 and another team (in the picture) at 11:35AM. Looks like this would be the first task in Salvador da Bahia.
AR13 TIMETABLE - first two legs
Depending on when they arrive at LAX, teams have choices of 3 flight combinations to Sao Paulo:
4/22
LAX DFW AA2446 1250 1740 connecting in Dallas with DFW GRU AA963 1945 0750+1 (Note: first to arrive if on schedule)
LAX MIA AA252 1355 2142 connceting in Miami with MIA GRU 2330 0830+1 (Note: second to arrive if on schedule)
LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)
4/23
This means that the tasks in Sao Paulo will have to take until after noon at the very least and that with a 12 hour pitstop it will be after midnight when teams are released.
4/24
There are numerous 2 1/4 hour nonstop flights from Sao Paulo to Salvador. However, choices are limited to the first 2 daily by virtue of the sighting of teams descending the exterior of the elevator just after 9am on 4/24. Those who were sighted could only be on this flight:
G3 1816 GRU SSA 0410 0625
Later teams could be on G31982 GRU SSA 0735 0950, but they will be quite a bit later to the elevator.
What about the teams spotted at Chicago OHare is that ORD??Yup. :tup:
Oh, still wondering about the world's busiest airport, O'Hare International, and its ORD code? Well once upon a time, before the editor and publisher of the Chicago Tribune, Colonel Robert McCormick suggested a name change as tribute to pilot Lt. Cmdr. Edward "Butch" O'Hare, United States Navy, there was an airstrip well to the northwest of Chicago with a quaint, peaceful name—Orchard Field.(source (http://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html), last paragraph)
Monday, May 5, 2008
My flight out of Santiago-
Sometimes people make foolish mistakes that have small consequences and other mistakes can be quite costly, I made one of the costly ones last week. I booked a ticket from Santiago to Oklahoma, the ticket was $450, all the other flights were around a thousand dollars, so of course I booked the cheaper flight, when I showed up to the airport in Santiago I went to check in and the flight was not on the board, and the counter did not upon for 8 hours, so I asked a service personal and she said that she had never heard of the flight number. So I went to the airlines office and then I found out that I had booked a flight from Santiago Dominican Republic and not Santiago Chile, ! And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.
Posted by Justin Vorel at (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)
TIMETABLE through Angkor Wat, Cambodia leg
4/26
We do not know where teams go next. It could be Fortaleza, Recife, Manaus, Brasilia, LaPaz, Santacruz, Asuncion or elsewhere.
4/28
What we are sure of is that teams end up at Santiago Chile airport on this evening.
LAN801 2245 0355+2 SCL AKL
then either QF26 0615 0815 AKL MEL or NZ7 0740 0930 AKL MEL
4/30
sightings of Amazing Race banners in downtown Melbourne in the afternoon
I am sure of how long it takes to fly from Santiago to Auckland, of when LAN801 is scheudled to leave and when it is scheduled to arrive. All the rest is speculation based on the blog of the 4/30 afternoon sigthing in Melbourne. It does not have to be so. Having the leg be on the North Island of New Zealand is very possible. Now I am going to consult an Amazing Race fan who lives in Devonport(northern suburb of Auckland where the infamous girl on swing task of ARA1 episode 4 was), my very own sister. Maybe she can help.
If teams left Santiago on April 30, they cannot arrive in Auckland until May 2. They have to be in Siem Reap that evening in order to be at Angkor Wat the following morning. There is no possibility of any leg in New Zealand or Australia.
*If* we assumed for the moment that there maybe was no leg in NZ or Australia, how does this leave the schedule as far as getting down to 6 teams (or maybe 7 if one was on a FF/way behind) after leaving Cambodia? Would there be a big enough gap in South America for an extra leg before the 30th?
According to wikipedia:
The town is 7 km from the Siem Reap-Angkor International Airport (IATA code REP). Siem Reap is accessible by direct flights from Phnom Penh, Sihanoukville, Singapore, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Vientiane, Luang Prabang, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Da Nang, Hong Kong, Seoul-Incheon, Pusan, Kunming, Kaohsiung and Taipei, and by land from Phnom Penh and the Thai border. It’s also accessible by boat and bus from Phnom Penh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siem_Reap
That's a lot of places to go to after Dubai. I would eliminate all those cities in Saudi Arabia (can't see our gals running around loose there) and in the troubled mid east (Amman, Damascus, etc.)
Some interesting ones in Africa, but TAR has been to most of them. Harare?
Too early for Europe or return to the States, so eliminate all European and Norh American spots.
That reduces the list quite a bit
Some other new ones: Algiers, Tunis, Tashkent, Tripoli
LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)
Chateau,
You may be right, but you have missed something important. Why would a team select connecting flights when they could be on the plane and flight that is going to Sao Paulo (UA 843)? The very simple probable explanation is that the winds were high and that flight got into Chicago early to account for the sigthing 15 minutes before 8pm.
*We saw The Hippies, we saw the Blondes in Pink, and we saw what we would describe as two 23-26 year old "Slacker Dudes"
*This guy was with... what we were guessing his mom
CITIES EASILY REACHABLE FROM SANTA CRUZ
American Airlines - Miami, Dallas, NewYorkJFK
Aerosur - EZE GRU MIA MAD IQT AQP(Arequipa), Asuncion, SLA(Salta)
LAN Ecuador - MIA JFK UIO(Quito) GYE SCL ASU BOG EZE CCS CUZ GRU MAD MEX MVD(Montevideo) GIG
LAN Peru - MIA LAX JFK LIM AQP CIX(Chiclayo) CUZ GYE IQT JUL(Juliaca) MOA(Maldonado) UIO GIG SCL TCG(Tacna) TPG(Targatao) TRU(Trujillo)
LAN Argentina - Salta EZE CCS LIM GYE UIO GRU IGR(Iguassu) SCL ROS(Rosario) RGL (Rio Gallegos) BRO(Bariloche) CRD(Commodoro Rivideria) COR Cordoba FTE El Cafate
AR13 TIMETABLE - first two legs
Depending on when they arrive at LAX, teams have choices of 3 flight combinations to Sao Paulo:
4/22
LAX DFW AA2446 1250 1740 connecting in Dallas with DFW GRU AA963 1945 0750+1 (Note: first to arrive if on schedule)
LAX MIA AA252 1355 2142 connceting in Miami with MIA GRU 2330 0830+1 (Note: second to arrive if on schedule)
LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)
4/23
This means that the tasks in Sao Paulo will have to take until after noon at the very least and that with a 12 hour pitstop it will be after midnight when teams are released.
4/24
There are numerous 2 1/4 hour nonstop flights from Sao Paulo to Salvador. However, choices are limited to the first 2 daily by virtue of the sighting of teams descending the exterior of the elevator just after 9am on 4/24. Those who were sighted could only be on this flight:
G3 1816 GRU SSA 0410 0625
Later teams could be on G31982 GRU SSA 0735 0950, but they will be quite a bit later to the elevator.
choices are limited to the first 2 daily ...
Leg 1 | Los Angeles to Sao Paulo to Salvador | 22/23/24/25 April | ||
Leg 2 | Salvador to S America | 25/26/27 April (speculative end date) | ||
Leg 3 | S America to S America | 27/28 April (speculative dates) | ||
Leg 4 | S America to Bolivia | 28/29 April (speculative start date) | ||
Leg 5 | Bolivia to Santiago to Auckland to Asia/Oceania Remote chance of a TBC before Santiago | 29/30 April, 1/2/3 May | ||
Leg 6 | Asia/Oceania to Cambodia | 3/4/5 May | ||
Leg 7 | Cambodia to Delhi | 5/6/7 May | ||
Leg 8 | Delhi to Dubai | 7 May onwards |
Apskip, I have LA967 running from Santa Cruz to Iquique (1205 to 1355) and then to Santiago (1515 to 1725). Which set of information do you think is correct?
Dang, so is Phil only connecting through Santa Cruz on the way from La Paz to Santiago or... the other way round, running from a previous leg's finish in Santa Cruz to the next leg in La Paz?
Sounds good to me Neobie, thank you!! Gosh the dates are so tight....
Conclusion? Phil is probably racing to La Paz with the teams; which makes Santa Cruz the previous leg?
Let's assume Phil wants to get from La Paz to the Asia/Pacific; flight-wise it makes sense - a connection through Santa Cruz is one of the best options.
The thing is, there are no flights on Tuesdays from La Paz to either Santiago or Buenos Aires.
Hi Stacy,
I saw TAR teams today as well at PDX. I drive the international buses at PDX but not today. However, I was driving the terminal parking lot buses today and saw a camera man /sound man running after a very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack and one of those TAR clue cards (?) in her hand just about the time the Germany flight would have landed. They were getting a taxi here at PDX. I had to keep my eyes on my driving but a person in the bus said they were from The Amazing Race.
My next loop around (20 minutes later), I arrived at the terminal and saw more teams grabbing a taxi. Fortunately I was driving the Employee lot bus and one of the supervisors (who got on camera & had to sign a TAR release for TV) confirmed that the teams in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa flight from Germany to Portland OR. They were headed up to Washington state. He also said there were only 4 teams and perhaps the other two teams went up via Seattle first - but that of course is purely speculation.
Just to keep you jumping apskips ;)Well, that sort of confirms our spec of a non-stop flight from FRA to PDX. So the question is: where did the teams go from Dubai? Somewhere in Europe? Or just passing through FRA (a major connecting point as is Dubai) from somewhere else?Hi Stacy,
I saw TAR teams today as well at PDX. I drive the international buses at PDX but not today. However, I was driving the terminal parking lot buses today and saw a camera man /sound man running after a very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack and one of those TAR clue cards (?) in her hand just about the time the Germany flight would have landed. They were getting a taxi here at PDX. I had to keep my eyes on my driving but a person in the bus said they were from The Amazing Race.
My next loop around (20 minutes later), I arrived at the terminal and saw more teams grabbing a taxi. Fortunately I was driving the Employee lot bus and one of the supervisors (who got on camera & had to sign a TAR release for TV) confirmed that the teams in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa flight from Germany to Portland OR. They were headed up to Washington state. He also said there were only 4 teams and perhaps the other two teams went up via Seattle first - but that of course is purely speculation.
WOW... have to say that I would be pretty happy with any of them! Thanks, apskip!Time to hit Picasa :lol: :groan:
I've been working on the timing for our Bolivian leg. We have several pieces of evidence to accommodate. Here are the terms:
1) A Canadian ex-patriot saw production working around wooden bikes and a U-Turn sign in La Paz, Bolivia. She wrote that it was on the day she took possession of her La Paz apartment which turns out to be located opposite El Monticulo. And she had previously written on April 25th that the move-in was expected to be "on Tuesday". That would be April 29th. This date will conflict another piece of evidence so be prepared to allow it to adjust.
2) A traveler spotted Phil at the airport of Santa Cruz, Bolivia. The sighting was in the range 9 am to 12:45 pm. :tup:
3) A traveler spotted several teams at the Santiago airport on April 30th. He has estimated that they arrived in two bunches between 4 and 6 pm. :tup:
4) On April 29th, the only flights into Santa Cruz prior to Phil getting spotted were from La Paz and Cochabamba (I say Cochabamba when I hit my thumb with my hammer!). And, for the time period involved, there were no flights into Cochbamba other than La Paz. :duno:
A Difficult Conclusion:
Phil was not on his way to La Paz on April 29th. He must have arrived from La Paz. So the Bolivian leg had been completed and his mat duties there were done. So the Canadian lady saw the U-turn and the wooden bikes in La Paz on the day before: April 28th.
With that in mind we can figure out the likely flights that teams used to get to Santiago on April 30th. Here is what I found for the two waves or groups that reached Santiago:
Wave 1:
Fly Aerosur 210 leaving La Paz at 8:30 am and arriving in Santa Cruz at 9:30 am
Continue on Aerosur 210 leaving Santa Cruz at 10:45 am and arriving in Buenos Aires at 2:30 pm
Fly Air Canada 93 leaving Buenos Aires at 4:00 pm and arriving in Santiago at 5:20 pm
As a potential bonus, if they arrived early enough in Buenos Aires, they could fly Aerolineas Argentinas 1288 leaving Buenos Aires at 2:45 pm and arriving in Santiago at 4:00 pm. :jam:
Wave 2:
Fly Lan Airlines 965 leaving La Paz at 12:45 pm and arriving in Iquique at 1:50 pm
Continue with Lan Airlines 965 leaving Iquique at 3:15 pm and arriving in Santiago at 5:25 pm
ETA: I just noticed that Wave 1 is equal to Neobie's 'pointless' flight for Phil. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301225.html#msg301225) :bow: Well, at least my Wave 2 is new. :lol:
If it is to LPB, then Phil could not do a mat in LaPaz, turn around, and get a flight(actually the same one on April 30) that will arrive SCL prior to 1725 on 4/30.
I believe that a sighting of Phil midday on April 29 at VVI was making the connection between either of the 2 nonstop flights from LPB into VVI that morning and LA967 departing from VVI at 1205 to SCL with stop in Iquique.
And where do the NEL's usually fit in to the episodes?
Only speculation, but I was wondering if a speed bump could be what delayed the African American team leaving NZ, or is that too early for a NEL?
Do we really know for sure that there are 11 episodes? If so, where is the evidence?
more from the wweek.com site in comments (http://wweek.com/wwire/?p=11881). I suppose 13 - 1111 means 11 episodes *sigh*
Underwear Guy writes on May 14th, 2008 4:48pm
**SPOILER**
I followed the girls, and the camera... I would bet money this was a decoy, Sammyk you nailed it. The girls got into a WRP van near the Voodoo Doughnuts, the were asking people along the way where Voodoo was... YET NO CLUE was to be found there. They all got into a van and drove off.
Beside, the International flight schedule would not have placed them in downtown.
What's confirmed is TAR is in down! The producers clip boards were in view. We could read 13 - 1111 on the sheet. This is RACE 13.
Tomorrow morning is the likely timing of the finish. Early am, no one around... lets guess Timberline, the Falls, Washington Park, no not the Tram.
By the way, it looks to me that the numbering 13-1111 confirms the fact that there were 11 episodes in AR13.
What's confirmed is TAR is in down! The producers clip boards were in view. We could read 13 - 1111 on the sheet. This is RACE 13.
Well, since we've got from the 25th to the 29th of April to play with for Leg Two, could it be possible that teams travelled on land through to Fortaleza? It's a twenty-hour bus ride (not unheard of on TAR), and flights would allow production to gain on the teams...
Or is Fortaleza simply a connection point (for production) for somewhere in the jungle? (This is presuming that the chainsaw is for the use of production to clear unforeseen obstacles, and not the use of the teams. Having a logging task in the Amazon would be sacrilegous in this age of global warming and what not!)
4/25 leg 2, choices of flights from Salvador to Fortaleza are:
SSA FOR JJ8003 1130 1310
SSA FOR G31642 0645 0945
SSA FOR G31260 1100 1350
SSA GRU JJ3171 0600 0830 connecting GRU with JJ3302 0930 1245
followed by tasks in Fortzaleza
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/cast%20video/19Aug0039.jpg)
"Sign up for one of three/four charter planes/helicopters/buses/camels leaving the next morning leaving at staggered departure times."
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/cast%20video/19Aug0041.jpg)
"We're team number seven? / We're made the seven o' clock?"
:nuala:
You've got some lousy Leg 2 flights to choose from:Quote4/25 leg 2, choices of flights from Salvador to Fortaleza are:
SSA FOR JJ8003 1130 1310
SSA FOR G31642 0645 0945
SSA FOR G31260 1100 1350
SSA GRU JJ3171 0600 0830 connecting GRU with JJ3302 0930 1245
followed by tasks in Fortzaleza
Thanks for your research, Chateau, but I consider it to be inapplicable because your assumptions are not right. Tasks will happen all day in Salvador after a mid-morning arrival there. The pitstop is unlikely to start much before very late afternoon. Add 12 hours and you have my flights shown as the only ones that work. We'll
Seeing that at least one team will be ready to start the leg as early as about 11:15 pm. They will arrive in Fortaleza much sooner if they choose from these flights: :neener:
1 JJ 3366 leaving SSA at 2:30 am arrives FOR at 4:15 am
2 JJ 3890 leaving SSA at 3:30 am arrives REC at 4:45 am
JJ 3890 leaving REC at 5:20 am arrives FOR at 6:35 am
3 G3 1642 leaving SSA at 6:45 am arrives REC at 8:00 am
G3 1642 leaving REC at 8:30 am arrives FOR at 9:40 am
4 G3 1817 leaving SSA at 1:15 am arrives GRU at 3:35 am
G3 1772 leaving GRU at 8:00 am arrives FOR at 11:20 am
5 JJ 3195 leaving SSA at 3:50 am arrives GIG at 5:50 am
JJ 3536 leaving GIG at 8:55 am arrives FOR at 12:05 pm
It's time for a new updated timeline. Key new assumptions are that Delhi tasks will end on 5/7, making the release from the pitstop Thursday May 8, and that the missing pitstop is Astana, Kazakhstan. The Delhi day of the week is extremely significant because there is a nonstop flight once per week flight from Delhi to Almaty, Kazakhstan but only on Saturday night. AR13 teams did not wait around for 2 days to get there more directly.
............
5/8 leg 8 begins
Delhi to Almaty Kazakhstan
This is one of the most interesting set of flight choices ever, all late at night and all taking more than 22 hours to reach ALA:
LH767 DEL FRA 0225 0710 connecting in Frankfurt with
LH646 FRA ALA 1305 0110+1 after a brief stop in Astana
BA142 DEL LHR 0210 0655 connecting in Heathrow with
BA7591 LHR ALA 1330 0140+1
AI310 DEL ICN 2315 1225+1 via Hong Kong, connecting in Seoul-Incheon with
Asiana577 ICN ALA 1810 2155
All of these are late night departures and late night arrivals. It is conceivable that to save monstrous airfares, WRP may have gotten a chartered jet.
5/9 teams arrive in Almaty in the wee hours or just prior to midnight; tasks take all day; then pitstop
5/10 leg 9 begins with choice of flights (not a long railroad trip) from Almaty to Astana:
KC751 0615 0810
KC851 0940 1125
KC813 1255 1440
KC818 1610 1755
KC878 1810 1955
KC855 1910 2055
followed by tasks in Astana area after arrival; pitstop (could be 24 hours)
NOTE that this leg is SPECULATION at this point. It is the most logical possibilty, but there are many ways to get from Almaty to Moscow.
5/11 leg 10 begins; fly Astana to Moscow KC873 TSE SVO 2100 0220+1
However, I can see no reason why American Airlines would send AR13 teams to Rio when AA995 to Sao Paulo arrives there earlier than AA905 does in Rio. Once there in Sao Paulo the connection I have shown is the best. In Rio, if teams did go there (and I do not recall any evidence about the TAM flight on episode 1), they would have been motivated back in LAX to choose JJ8001, which leaves 10 minutes before G3 1600.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the reality TV show, The Amazing Race, it is a competition where people travel all over the world in a hectic rat race to come in first and win the big prize. I..m actually not all that familiar with the show myself but I..m pretty sure they were on my airplane.
This situation happened completely by chance. From Cordoba, we were to have a stop over in Porto Alegre another stop in Sao Paulo and then arrive in Salvador in the afternoon. Because of fog, the airport in Porto Alegre was closed, so we had to detour to Rio and from there, fly to Salvador, which was actually much more efficient and convenient.
At the airport in Rio, we noticed several film crews and people in teams of two, often wearing matching outfits. These two girls from Texas (according to their t-shirts anyway) were wearing matching black biker shorts, bright pink tank tops and a ton of make-up. I think the t-shirt was pretty accurate. Anyway, we noticed them being interviewed by the film crews, acting out dramatic situations and so-on. When it came time to board we talked to some of them and lent one of them our brazil book, although they didn..t give us many details about what they were doing. There was a delay in taking off and one team asked if they could move closer to the front. As soon as they did, all the other contestants tried to do the same. It was kind of annoying becuase I think it delayed our take-off even more. Anyway, at that point, we were pretty confident that if it wasn..t The Amazing Race, it was an amazing race of some sort.
Both lead teams are wearing the same clothes getting into the taxi at the airport and arriving at Simon Bolivar. Would this help the case that there was no 24-hour camp-out in La Paz? (You know, we do like to get the details right...)
and La Paz did not
5/11 leg 9 begins; fly Almaty to Astana KC871 ALA SVO 0615 0800;
tasks;
extended 36 hour pitstop
Peach, don't get excited, as what you have found was an instance of prior information not being deleted from my timeline as it should have. Flight KC671 is nonstop Almaty to Moscow-Sheremetyevo.Quote5/11 leg 9 begins; fly Almaty to Astana KC871 ALA SVO 0615 0800;
tasks;
extended 36 hour pitstop
Where did Moscow go??
But this is great! Those flights almost certainly could explain seeing D/A in Portland around 6...