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Title: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2008, 07:56:05 PM
Contestant Spoiling Link (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.0.html)
Anita and Arthur (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16721.0.html) ~   not in the final 7 *no photo evidence in leg 2 Fortaleza   :yes:
Anthony and Stephanie  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16730.0.html)    not in the final 7  *photo evidence in Fortaleza leg 2  :yes:
Mark and Bill (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16720.0.html) ~ not in the final 7 *photo evidence in leg 3  :yes:
Marisa and Brooke~   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16723.0.html)  not in the final 7  * photo evidence in Fortaleza leg 2 :yes:
Aja and Ty (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16725.0.html) ~  most likely out 7th, leg 5  :yes:
Kelly and Christy (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16728.0.html) ~   final 6 :yes: Eliminated
Terence and Sarah (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16722.0.html) ~  final 6:yes:  Eliminated
Andrew and Dan (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16724.0.html) ~ final 6 :yes:  *Third Place*
Toni and Dallas (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16726.0.html) ~  final 5 New evidence puts Toni and Dallas in Almaty Leg 8 (http://8. Almaty, Kazakhstan)- :yes:   Eliminated
Ken and Tina (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16729.0.html) ~  Should be in at least the final 4 based on eyewitness description and future screencaps:yes: *Second Place*
Nick and Starr (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16727.0.html) ~  Final 3, video & photo evidence :yes:  *WINNERS*



 *denotes actual leg
*denotes probable connection points only


Episode reference

9/28/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1301) Bees are Much Calmer than All This!  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17239.0.html)
10/5/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1302) Do You Like American Candy?  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17595.0.html)
10/12/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1303) Did You Push My Sports Bra Off the Ledge?  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.0.html)
10/19/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1304) I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17653.0.html)
10/26/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1305)  Do It Like a Madman (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17721.0.html)
11/2/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1306) Please Hold While I Singe My Skull  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17744.0.html)
11/9/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1307) My Nose Is on Fire (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17766.0.html)
11/16/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1308) I’m Like an Angry Cow (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17762.0.html)
11/23/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1309) That Is Studly (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17796.0.html)
11/30/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1310) You're Gonna Get Me Killed (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17845.0.html)
12/7/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1311) You Look Like Peter Pan (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17934.0.html)





Spoiler summary so far:

Neobie starts the ball rolling  here: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15354.0.html)
*Van munster, who personally, scouted every location on the show reveals that the route for Season 13, which will start filmimg in April or May, will be "very original" and "insane".

Kogs  brings us a job listing (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14094.msg278454.html#msg278454 job) posted by WRP/CBS "A small crew will be needed to start April 7th, the rest of the crew will begin April 21st"

BVM interview, brought to us by sunnyca   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15354.msg318412.html#msg318412)
With the season 13 debut of CBS’ The Amazing Race looming just around the corner (okay, Sept. 28), exec producer Bertram Van Munster slipped us a few clues about the upcoming globetrot.

• The race takes 23 days, covers nearly 40,000 miles, spans five continents, and features some far-flung locales never before seen on the show, including Angkor Wat, Cambodia and La Paz, Bolivia.

• The youngest team is a tandem of two guys in their early 20s. “They’re made for television,” Van Munster says. “They’re supersmart — and they make terrible mistakes.” A pair of recent divorcees in their late 20s also vie for the million-dollar prize. “They were left with some financial debt, so they really have a motive to run around the world,” he says. And once again, expect a serving of granola — this time with a husband-wife squad of 60-something Oregon hippies. “They’re the real thing,” says Van Munster. “They come right out of the '60s. To a lot of people, it looks almost like they’re from a different planet.”


• As for the challenges, “We’ve really outdone ourselves in the department of outrageousness,”  Van Munster declares. “We have a situation in Bolivia where we have the [contestants] go down a cobblestone hill on very, very primitive bikes, and it’s just the most hilarious thing you’ve ever seen in your life. It’s a truly bone-jarring experience.” (Another must-see detour: A by-train-or-by-bus scavenger hunt in Moscow. )

• One familiar thing actually did happen on this race: The producers didn’t predict the winner. Says Van Munster, “We’ve been wrong every time, across the board.”


 Press Release

•Starting at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the 13th season of the Emmy-winning reality competition (premiering Sept. 28 at 8 p.m. EDT) will follow the teams as they travel over 30,000 miles in 23 days to countries such as Brazil, Bolivia, Russia, India and Kazakhstan. It's the first time the series visited the landlocked country lampooned by Sacha Baron Cohen in "Borat."

•"We shot most of that episode in the capital," said executive producer Bertram van Munster. "People were a little afraid we were going to pull a 'Borat' on them. I told them we weren't doing 'Borat,' but what happened there is very, very funny. It's not easy to shoot in places like that because they practically have no television industry."

•Van Munster, who is currently scouting locations in Asia for the 14th season, promised the 13th season will include a series of firsts for the reality competition, including a mistake that ultimately prohibited one team from joining their fellow racers at the finish line, as well as a memorable first-ever stop for "The Amazing Race" in Cambodia.

•"The teams have no idea how to get from Point A to Point B there," said van Munster. "They don't know the language. It's very difficult to get through this country. They get so stuck, but they find so many fascinating solutions of how to get through everything. One of the things the teams do there is go to a real-life floating village. It's insane."


•  USA Today: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-amazing-race-route_N.htm)
This year's 23-day itinerary, revealed in advance for the first time, covers 30,000 miles and has 11 stops in eight countries: Brazil, Bolivia, New Zealand, Cambodia, India, Kazakhstan, Russia and the USA (the race starts in L.A. and finishes in Portland, Ore.). 

•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm)
•Q: You're returning for the seventh time to India, which makes it the show's most-visited destination after the USA. What's the appeal?
A: It's my favorite (place for the show). I don't know a more diverse, colorful, dynamic country in the world. There's a sameness and comfort level you get living in a country like America. For people like Nancy and Emily (a first-season mother and daughter team who had a tough time negotiating crowds in New Delhi and Agra), it was like being on another planet.

•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

•Q. This season's show includes stops in three new countries: Bolivia, Cambodia and Kazakhstan, the former Soviet republic best known as Borat's fictional homeland. Impressions?
A. La Paz, Bolivia, is the most extraordinary city. We fly in (to one of the world's highest airports at 13,000 feet) and climb from there up to this place where the teams have to perform with cholitas, or female wrestlers. And Borat didn't do Kazakhstan any favors with the way he depicted it. I was surprised at the sophistication and their dry sense of humor.



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LA Coliseum-- Los Angeles, LAX/ Chicago, ORD 4/22/08
peachs brings us a blog entry (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg298477.html#msg298477)
dated 4/22/08:
*"This time, as we were waiting for the team to get checked in at the airport, we got a glimpse of what appeared to be some competitors on The Amazing Race.
*I saw a camera crew shooting two blondes wearing hot pink sweatsuits as they quickly walked outside the terminal. Hmmm, don't think we've ever seen THAT kind of team before on the show (says she with heavy sarcasm).
*A few minutes later, we caught a glimpse of two more pairs


peach contacts the writer (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.0.html) of the blog and brings us more details:
*She saw the teams on 4/22  at about 11 AM outside the Delta terminal 5. Looking from inside the terminal out, the teams would have been moving to the right.

Chateau d if does some amazing detective (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg298534.html#msg298534) work by visiting LAX and gets details:
* The gal said there was one team that was 'hippie' like with long white hair (she demonstrated with her hands at mid chest level). 
*They were an older couple, as in, male and female.  She estimated their ages to be 40's or 50's.  She also mentioned the two girls and another team that was just a regular young couple in their 20's.
*I just point blank asked "Where were they flying to?"  And he said "Brazil.     Sao Paulo, Brazil"
*He also confirmed the Hippie couple.  They are old enough to be originals from the 60's.
*He said there were 5 teams going via UA and 6 teams via AA.
*So there you have it:   11 teams of two.  Off to their first destination in Sao Paulo.


Thanks to Kogs, do we have our first contestant sighting? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.0.html) -- picture credit flickr ChristiaanV
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandenheuvel/2436594800/)
 peach contacts ChristiaanV (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299128.html#msg299128) , he kindly shares more details.
*We saw The Hippies, we saw the Blondes in Pink, and we saw what we would describe as two 23-26 year old "Slacker Dudes"
*This guy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandenheuvel/2436594800/) was with... what we were guessing his mom (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300009.html#msg300009)


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Rio De Janeiro International Airport 4/23/08

Some new info here: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301587.html#msg301587)

*From Cordoba, we were to have a stop over in Porto Alegre another stop in Sao Paulo and then arrive in Salvador in the afternoon. Because of fog, the airport in Porto Alegre was closed, so we had to detour to Rio and from there, fly to Salvador, which was actually much more efficient and convenient.
*At the airport in Rio, we noticed several film crews and people in teams of two, often wearing matching outfits.
*These two girls from Texas (according to their t-shirts anyway) were wearing matching black biker shorts, bright pink tank tops and a ton of make-up. I think the t-shirt was pretty accurate.
*Anyway, we noticed them being interviewed by the film crews, acting out dramatic situations and so-on.
*When it came time to board we talked to some of them and lent one of them our brazil book, although they didn..t give us many details about what they were doing.
*There was a delay in taking off and one team asked if they could move closer to the front.
*As soon as they did, all the other contestants tried to do the same.
*It was kind of annoying becuase I think it delayed our take-off even more. Anyway, at that point, we were pretty confident that if it wasn..t The Amazing Race, it was an amazing race of some sort.


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Salvador da Bahía, Brazil   4/24-4/25/08

Shacklebolt @Twop's (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10194003), Salvador de Bahía, Brazil April 24th? to April 25th? ,more info throughout this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299771.html#msg299771).



ART And CULTURE Friday, 25 of April of 2008 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299872.html#msg299872)
It records? of Reality Show it explores points tur?icos of the capital Ascom

*The bahian capital is the scene chosen for the writings of reality American show "the Maratona", an international competition where teams cover some countries fulfilling a series of tasks. The program, that counts today on a hearing of more than 50 million people per year, already is being recorded in some of the main tourist points of Salvador.
*In the morning of this thursday (day 24), the competitors of reality show had had that to go down, in the style rappel, the 70 meters of the Lacerda Elevator. To carry through the test, that called the attention who passed for the place, the filming team installed a net to the long one of the elevator.

*Still inside of the actions of the program, new writings are foreseen tomorrow, of this time in the Maritime Terminal of Salvador, in the Commerce.
* Until the moment, already they had served of location for the international production the Square of the Sé, the Inclined Plan Gonçalves, the Order Third of the San Francisco (Historical Center), the Slope of the Carmo and the staircase of the Paço
.

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Fortaleza, Brazil 
4/25,-?/08

Information here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg303861.html#msg303861) thanks to Nivaldo

*It was in Fortaleza City Ceará state Brazil.
*I really liked to participate in the reality show. I knew Phil and his team and I helped him too because it was raining so much.
*I participate as a painter and gave one envelope to each team. You will know that I'm not lying.
*I painted the letters on the wall because the challenge was to read it all in Portuguese and find the key phrase.
*The key phrase was: Cidade Da Crianca (it’s a place in Fortaleza downtown like a big square where the teams need to take a taxi and run to that place to do another challenge, but before they needed to tell me the key and I gave them the envelope.
*I took the picture on April 23rd but they filmed on April 25  in the morning and finished about 2:00pm because I needed to paint it 2 days before and paid me to participate in the filming too.

*I never heard of Amazing Race before and they tried to do everything in secret, but during the filming I dressed in a blue painter uniform with some brushes and the teams arrived in a taxi, took the envelope in a red box, I don’t remember what they called that, and they need to find the painter (me) and one of the couple needed to stay beside me and the other run and read all the phases to find the key, he or she ran to tell me the key. That place is located in Metropolitan area of Fortaleza City in a place called “Iparana” Caucaia city near Forrtaleza the capital of Ceara state.

*A farm called “Parque De Vaquejada A Ze Gerardo”, the place where they do rodeos but, they filmed outside this place, not inside.
*…I recall 10 teams.



Q-Can you recall if the teams were bunched or did they come 1 team at a time?
A-one team at a time, but some teams had hard job to find the key (solving the phrase) and were bunched.
 
Q-Can you recall which make of team was first? Which make of team was last?
A-I remember the first and the last. The first was an old couple and the last was a brown married couple and they had a hard job to find it, the woman waited beside me and the man was looking for the key. I thought he would give up.

Q-Did the teams have a hard time with the phrase? or did any teams speak Portuguese?
heheh...It was so difficult to understand,,no one spoke Portuguese correct, but I understood...



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La Paz, Bolivia 4/28/08
Updates on our life in (La Paz), Bolivia  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301059.html#msg301059l)
*ok, fun tidbits now! The day we took possession of our apartment we were crossing the park in front of our building and noticed a lot of people and some really weird all wood bicycles.
*I noticed a lot of the people around them looked like the rich gortex-wearing tourist we see and/or the Discovery Channel crew that worked with us last year.
*Then I noticed it: a yellow signed that said "U-Turn" with a yellow and red flag on it... It was The Amazing Race!!!!! (It's a fun reality show, google it if you don't know what it is) I was sooooooo excited! I was torn between staying there until contestants showed up or going into our apartment. Given Wes' lack of enthusiasm I decided to go back home. But hey, next Amazing Race they will be showing our building and our park!


Update (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg303491.html#msg303491)

Hi peach,

sorry I didn't reply earlier, we didn't have any internet access for the last 10 days.
*As for your questions, it's a bit hard to remember (as I'm not as obsessed by details as you guys are!) but we are rather certain we saw the Amazing Race on May 28th in La Paz.  
*They were in Plaza Abaroa (sometime called Plaza Avaroa), in the neighborhood of Sopocachi. From our apartment, we also noticed a lot of commotions and big tv lighting in the parc of the Monticulo, near Plaza Espana.
*I am like 80% sure the sign said U-Turn but as soon as I shouted "Oh my god it's the Amazing Race" some of the workers covered the sign. I know it wasn't one of those thing where you can put the picture of another team.
*So just a big yellow sign with the flag beneath it. What else... The bikes were similar to the ones on the picture you sent but less shabby looking. And they were next to wooden head gear with lots of feathers on it. I didn't see any teams. Oh, but also, there were lots of brass bands typical of Bolivia. I'm not sure why they were there. 


BVM: • As for the challenges, “We’ve really outdone ourselves in the department of outrageousness,”  Van Munster declares. “We have a situation in Bolivia where we have the [contestants] go down a cobblestone hill on very, very primitive bikes, and it’s just the most hilarious thing you’ve ever seen in your life.



•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm)
•Q. This season's show includes stops in three new countries: Bolivia, Cambodia and Kazakhstan, the former Soviet republic best known as Borat's fictional homeland. Impressions?
A. La Paz, Bolivia, is the most extraordinary city. We fly in (to one of the world's highest airports at 13,000 feet) and climb from there up to this place where the teams have to perform with cholitas, or female wrestlers

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Blog:Santa Cruz, Bolivia   4/29/08
Santa Cruz to Buenos Aires   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300928.html#msg300928)
Tuesday  4/29/08 

Now, airports are not on my list of favourite places to be stuck at the best of times, and unfortunately Santa Cruz airport is fairly small - apart from when we saw Phil Keoghan (of Amazing Race fame) waiting for a plane too - now we are wondering if the Amazing Race was in town - that would be cool!


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Santiago, Chile 4/30/08

Teams seen in Santiago Airport:
My flight out of Santiago   by Justin Vorel     (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)
*And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

More from Jason (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300503.html#msg300503)
*He was in the airport on April 30th.
*He saw teams, each accompanied by a camera and sound guy start arriving in the early evening.
*They all appeared exhausted and after ticketing at different counters, some went for a bite to eat and some just crashed. He emphasized that he didn't know what they had been doing, but all seemed tired and dirty.
*He saw teams arriving in 2 "waves".
*The first prob 5 to 6 teams (some difficulty sorting out camera people from teams) arriving earlier maybe 4-5PM and the second smaller group of 1 or 2-3 arriving an hour or so later.

Re teams:
*He saw 2 girls he called "the sisters" (but could have been friends also) dressed in blue shirts
*2 younger teams --couples he thinks
*One older gray haired maybe 45 yrs man (unclear here whether racer or production)
*He points out that almost all the Int flights leave Santiago in the eve. He thinks most of the teams were going by 7+ or so. His flight left about 8.




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Auckland, NZ 5/2-/08 - 5/3/08

apskip's: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.275.html)
*I have BIG NEWS from my brother-in-law Ray who works at the Auckland International Airport as reported by my sister who is a big Amazing Race fan after I asked about May 2:
*I just checked with Ray and he said the Amazing Race team did arrive in Auckland, went into the city for the day and came back to the airport late that evening and departed.  He told me he saw Phil Keogan the kiwi who fronts the show waiting for the competitors.
*This fits perfectly with my theory that teams would do a REST DAY or in this case from 0355 until late evening



 apskip's adds:

NEW
New Zealand INFO FROM MY SOURCE

*"Phil Keoghan and team arrived on what I think was the 2 May. I personally saw him only the afternoon/evening of this day
 *However, other staff members report they have seen the team also on this day
*Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd  of May) - 5am ish.
*Flights leaving that early in the morning are usually just flying to Australia
*Some airport security staff saw the rest of the team fly out in dribs and drabs on the "3rd of May", with the last team around 7pm ish that eveningleaving  ."
*"they left during the course of the day from around 12:30pm onwards - most took Emirates flights (of which there are 3 daily departures each day - all of which go thru Australia. One to Melbourne then Dubai, One to Sydney then Singapore, One to Brisbane, Bangkok. There was still one team here around 7pm waiting to fly out."



mez: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300434.html#msg300434)
*Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland).  I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.


selwyn: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301741.html#msg301741)

*I've spoken to people within the industry who had direct involvement with The Amazing Race in New Zealand.
*They definitely did a leg here, roughly the dates I mention earlier (Apr 30 - May 2) but I think it may have run a day late.
*I am not totally sure where they traveled, but it was out of Auckland south into the North Island (this would fit with Tauranga or Rotorua, or both).  
*And I have no idea where they pit-stopped.
*There were as many a 10 local crews on the job, plus the standard travelling crews. This was definitely the CBS Amazing Race, not a localised variant (the Asian version has been here twice in the past).


selwyn adds:
 
*My informants also tell me that at least one team was quite a way behind at the end of the NZ leg. So it's possible that not all teams land in Cambodia the same time.

 

•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm)
•Q: You're also going back to your birthplace, New Zealand, the adventure capital of the world, for the third time. What new thrills can we expect to see?
A: New Zealanders are very proud of their indigenous Maori culture, and we were looking to get something of that in the show. We ended up having the teams search for Maori warriors on an extinct volcano (near Auckland), and it was the most magical morning when they arrived: As the sun was rising, there were these warriors doing the haka (a traditional war dance) with a magnificent rainbow over the top of the hill.

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Siem Reap Town, Cambodia   5/4/08 - 5/5/08

Siem Reap Town, Cambodia 5/4/08 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300226.html#msg300226)

blogs:

An Amazing Race (http://journals.worldnomads.com/matt_and_alson/post/18605.aspx)
*Sure, the highlight today should have been the magnificent visit to Angkor Wat, but I'll be the first to admit I was a little obsessed with the filming of a certain, unnamed reality show that airs on Tuesday nights on CBS, that features pairs of people adventuring on a global scavenger hunt. 
*I think you catch my drift. I even got filmed helping one of the contestants find her clue (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300232.html#msg300232) and signed my life away to CBS, or at least signed away any shot of royalities from a brief glimpse of fame! 
*We'll definitely be watching when the new season starts to see if we can spot ourselves in the "travel documentary" that two of the contestants said they were in.



Cambodia's Culinary Delights (http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/5219/Cambodias-Culinary-Delights-Battambang-133)
May 4, 2008
*........while I made my way to Siem Reap, by boat . Wise choice. The water is low, but we only got snagged a few times, making it here in about six hours. I've really enjoyed boat travel in SE Asia so I was glad to have one more opportunity before leaving this part of the world.

*We also witnessed upon arrival what appeared to be a segment being filmed for Amazing Race.
*Before we could take off from the dock, we had to sit and wait while they filmed some couple with backpacks stacking baskets and then jumping in the back of a truck


More from chrisrae  (http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/5219/Cambodias-Culinary-Delights-Battambang-133) from peach (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300656.html#msg300656)

Message from Chrisrae:
*It was an African American couple.  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300656.html#msg300656) I just uploaded the only pick I have to my blog entry "cambodia's culinary delights." It's the last picture in the series.
*I saw them after arriving near seim reap by boat from battambang, traveling through lake tonle sap. It was about 2:30 or 3 in the afternoon on a Sunday.
*They were at the water's edge. We were kept away but I saw the guy stacking some baskets I've seen them use to transport pigs and she was holding their bags.
*They then jumped in awaiting trucks and were transported with the cameraman and got out near a wat outside of town. I kept onto town so I don't know what happened next.
Hope that helps!




 
from magratt @Twops: (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10227226)
*A friend of mine was in Siem Reap, Cambodia a couple of days ago and saw:
*"an African American couple down by the dock, and she was holding their backpacks and he was stacking baskets and then they jumped in the back of a waiting truck and off they went. They kept filming them while in the back of the truck, and then they got out and were heading up to a wat I think" 


Donut Diary said...  (http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html)
*Yes ! they are definitely contestants from the Amazing Race Show.
*We were at Tonle Sap Lake and saw route markers (Flags in red and yellow) on 6 boats at the pier.
*There were camera crew but we did not see the contestants. Very exciting !



Blog per  Slowhatch (http://rezworldtour.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race-following-amazing-rez-haha.html) They were in Angkor Wat the same time as my group, so if you happen to see that episode, you might see one of the Cambodian guys in my group helping him find the clue (look for people in a bright green t).


Lorna in Cambodia blog  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300815.html#msg300815)

Lorna (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302364.html#msg302364) joins us and shares photos and info:

*We were at Angkor Wat on the 4th May when they were filming the Amazing Race.
*We only saw one team at Angkor for the whole time we were there which was a couple of hours. This team was both male, one with orange hair and the other with brown hair and they were at the clue box at 11.30am.
*We also happened to see all the teams walking around Siem Reap town that evening and I recall seeing 6 teams. I would love to visit your website and I have plenty of photos I will send to your email address
*I was checking the time stamp on my photos from Angkor Wat and from 11.30 - 12.30pm that was the only team that came through. 
*Just for curiosity sake the guy with the orange hair was really nice and managed to exchange a few words.
*Come to think of it there would have been another team there but they were leaving at 11.30. Thats what got my attention in the first place..the camera crew running outside. I couldn't tell you who it was though. But im positive the team i saw was the only one there from 11.30 because the guy with the brown hair was the only person waiting while his team mate was doing the road block.



Flickr boat picture  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameskhoo/2472602864/) credits to flickrs, James Khoo's
*' Amazing Race Show ' route markers on 6 boats . Only 6 teams left competing in Siem Reap
........
 or were there 7 boats ;)
Slowhatch: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300825.html#msg300825)
*The blogger said 6, but I count 7 flags there (the flags on each end are almost hidden--compare my arrows below to the original (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameskhoo/2472602864/sizes/o/)). Doesn't production often hire one extra vehicle/animal/etc. for tasks?

Phil sighting on Flickr by Kilometre 22   (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24168047@N03/2470380501/). Blog here (http://kilometre22.blogspot.com/2008/05/cambotja-pas-de-temples.html)
Translation thanks to Slowhatch:
*To finish the day we have seen the sunset in the main temple of Angkor Wat and which it has been our surprise that we have found ourselves to the presenter of our favorite program of the TV (Amazing Race). It results that they are preparing the next season of the program from deal about a gymkhana of the world and the winner being carried by that going round a prize of a million dolars! Has been very curious the encounter and we have been able to speak a little with the presenter and the equipment of the program (the very charming and nice people truth). A day with an unexpected end!!!!


Yet another blog: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301833.html#msg301833)
Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Just to catch up....
So I just got back into Thailand from Cambodia.... which is why i haven't posted in a while. Ends up that Cambodia is not a telecommunications mecca. Anyways, everything has kinda been a whirlwind. Covered 3 countries in 2 weeks and it kinda feels like we are on "The Amazing Race".... and i mean literally. Yesterday we were in Angkor Wat (more of that story later... it is AMAZING... you should look up pictures... seriously a Wonder of the Ancient world--- i thought better than the stuff i saw in Rome) The Amazing Race was filming at Angkor the same day we were there. AND THEN... we end up at the airport to fly to Bangkok from Cambodia... and who was on our airplane.... thats right.... 3 teams competing on the next season of the Amazing Race. We are sitting there and then all the sudden all these camera and sound guys are filming everything. And the producer guy was sitting in the seat right behind me and vida. CRAZY!! So now we consider ourselves official unofficial cast members. And before all this started I was telling vida that i thought it felt like we were on the amazing race.


and yet another blog   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302210.html#msg302210)
more Siem Reap (http://paulmarkthirnan.blogspot.com/2008/05/angkor-wat-cambodia.html)
We didn't manage to take a picture of it but i think we ran into a couple doing the Amazing Race here. We'll have to check out the next season but the couple was being followed by a camera man and they had to find a specific face in the ruins. I did my best to make a cameo between this and Bollywood I am really getting my face out there.

:bar:
Delhi, India via Bangkok, Thailand 5/6/08

Per MrsShrek blogger find (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300368.html#msg300368)

*Was just in the Siem Reap, Cambodia airport with the next Amazing Race people.
*When I asked one of the crew, he hesitated and told me it was a documentary.
*Then I looked around and saw 12 crew members, 7 cameras and 9 boom mikes.
*Then two of the contestants who had overheard me talking about going to Nepal earlier, snuck away from everyone to ask me if I was going to India.
 Here's the transcript of that conversation:
Girls: Um, can you do us a favor? So you're going to India?
Me: No, actually Nepal.
Girls: Oh. Is that near India?
Girls: Well, we need to find something in India and thought you might be able to help since you were going near there.
Me: Okkkkkkkkk. But I'm actually going to Nepal.
Girls: Well, we're looking for something really obscure in Delhi.
Anyway, sat in front of all of them on the plane where they were filmed almost the entire time and took pictures (http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html) on the bus and in the Bangkok airport that I'll post.


More from Jason/jumpingthetracks   (http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html)  via peach: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300509.html#msg300509)

Here's my breakdown of the contestants:
*2 girls, both from Texas, one blond, one brunette.
*A young guy with spikey hair (college age, red shirt, orange packwhite headband in the escalator pic) and his mother.
*A young couple (pic of them from behind on my blog), probably mid-20s.
*Another guy and girl but not a couple, early 20s.
*2 frat boys.  One was wearing an AEPi shirt from Arizona State dated 2006 and the other was the jew-fro kid with the yellow headband.  He's definitely a racer

*No African American team


More from Jason   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300525.html#msg300525)

* Hey everyone.  Glad I could help with the Bangkok pics and info. 
*As Peach posted, I can definitely identify 5 teams and think there was another but can't be sure.  . 
*Sorry about that.  Actually, I was chatting with a crew member in the customs line when they told me it was a documentary and I asked how many people there are in the "movie" and just threw 10 out there as a number and he said yeah so maybe there are only 5 teams left. 
*I can definitely say that the frat guys are the guys in my second set of pics, one with a yellow headband, one with a yellow hat.  They were doing pullups on the bus ride from the plane. 
*The 2 girls, one blond/reddish hair, one brunette, both from Texas. 
*The couple with their backs to me in the other shot is a team, they had a number on the packs. 
 *Then there's the young guy with the spikey hair and his mother and another M/F who are together but almost positive they're not a couple. 
*That's all I saw in terms of contestants.

*I can definitely say there was no african american team.  There was one african american guy but he was a sound guy.  That's it. 
*What else?  ummmmm, I didn't see any older couple with the group
*We were pretty much waiting in the small Siem Reap airport together for over an hour so I got a pretty good look at everyone that was there. 




some new info here:

On Flight Between Bangkok and India (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301576.html#msg301576)
Tuesday, May 06, 2008 
*On the flight I met the cast and crew of next falls "Amazing Race."
*You give one couple your guidebook after being told that they and the camera crew are filming a travel documentary.
*One cameraman says it' s just a pilot and will probably come out on Discovery Channel.
*But when you go to hand your book to the gentleman and you ask him more about what the specific theme or title of the documentary is, he responds by putting on a cautious and direct face then points at a small black travel bag with orange and yellow stripes down the middle.
*I shrug my shoulders saying, "i don't know what that is." He then discreetly opens the top zipper and pulls out a black and yellow ticket just enough for me to make out the large bold letters that spell "Race" and I got it.
*He shook his head knowingly and we winked at each other and I returned to my seat.
*It all made sense then. And I could easily pick out who the crew were and the various couples.
*Some were partners, some were family, some were friends.
*They all seemed to be slightly frantic and on edge and some of them were trying desperately to exchange dollars for Rupees while still on the flight. A pair of young jewish boys asked me for some and I told them they could just go to an ATM at the airport.
*One replied with, "We won't have enough time." I was shocked by that. Who doesn't have an extra minute for an ATM when vacationing to a foreign country? I knew then something was up


Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Just to catch up....   (http://myweirdmindwonders.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-to-catch-up.html)
So I just got back into Thailand from Cambodia.... which is why i haven't posted in a while. Ends up that Cambodia is not a telecommunications mecca. Anyways, everything has kinda been a whirlwind. Covered 3 countries in 2 weeks and it kinda feels like we are on "The Amazing Race".... and i mean literally. Yesterday we were in Angkor Wat (more of that story later... it is AMAZING... you should look up pictures... seriously a Wonder of the Ancient world--- i thought better than the stuff i saw in Rome) The Amazing Race was filming at Angkor the same day we were there. AND THEN... we end up at the airport to fly to Bangkok from Cambodia... and who was on our airplane.... thats right.... 3 teams competing on the next season of the Amazing Race. We are sitting there and then all the sudden all these camera and sound guys are filming everything. And the producer guy was sitting in the seat right behind me and vida. CRAZY!! So now we consider ourselves official unofficial cast members. And before all this started I was telling vida that i thought it felt like we were on the amazing race.
:bar:
Delhi, India  5/6/08 to 5/?/08

peach (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302202.html#msg302202) :

*And I can't exactly say how I know , but I just got confirmation that the race was definitely in Delhi as we suspected, and also was in Moscow!!

:update:

Thanks to schwarzmoor, production photo evidence here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.msg303392.html#msg303392)


•Phil interview: (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-09-25-keoghan-qna_N.htm)
•Q: You're returning for the seventh time to India, which makes it the show's most-visited destination after the USA. What's the appeal?
A: It's my favorite (place for the show). I don't know a more diverse, colorful, dynamic country in the world. There's a sameness and comfort level you get living in a country like America. For people like Nancy and Emily (a first-season mother and daughter team who had a tough time negotiating crowds in New Delhi and Agra), it was like being on another planet.


:bar:

Almaty, Kazakhstan  
First brought to us by Mrs Shrek (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15374.msg301184.html#msg301184)
and thanks to the new promo  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16696.msg330971.html#msg330971) , found by Boingo and peach. :tup:


:bar:
Moscow, Russia   5/12?-13/08

I found some info here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302201.html#msg302201) for WRP Group/ CBS in Russian:

12.05.2008 Sb “ASPECT” insured the civil liability of the American telecommunication companies CBS Of corporation and WRP Of group. The responsibility of companies is insured to the period of conducting the surveys of tv program in the territory of Russia. Limit of the responsibility of insurer - 1[mln] of US dollars

peach (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302202.html#msg302202) follows up with:
*And I can't exactly say how I know , but I just got confirmation that the race was definitely in Delhi as we suspected, and also was in Moscow!!

:update:

Thanks to schwarzmoor, production photo evidence here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.msg303396.html#msg303396)


:update:
Pitstop! All-Russia Centre (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136), photo evidence.
Video evidence  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg308376.html#msg308376)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_team.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/team.jpg)

BVM: • As for the challenges, Another must-see detour: A by-train-or-by-bus scavenger hunt in Moscow.

:bar:
End City! Portland Oregon USA!!    5/14,/08  

info starts here, were still sorting it out.  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301243.html#msg301243)

Amazing Race in Portland? (http://www.wweek.com/wwire/?p=11881)
DASHING FOR DOLLARS:
*Forget next Tuesday’s primary, the real race is already underway.
*Although officials at the Port of Portland cannot confirm rumors, CBS-TV’s The Amazing Race 13 , which pits teams against each other in a race around the world, has touched down in Portland now through Thursday, May 15 . 
 

 
Teams may have done tasks at Port of Cascades Locks?
reference here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301420.html#msg301420) & here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301433.html#msg301433).

Team sightings around Portland, compiled  here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg301507.html#msg301507).

 peach gives us the finishline a day before the race ends...  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301490.html#msg301490)
Finish Line! Pittock Mansion

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2008, 08:23:21 PM
per spoilers..  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.0.html)

April22-LA Memorial Coliseum to Sao Paulo, Brazil (11 teams of 2)
April23-Sao Paulo to Rio De Janeiro International Airport, Brazil
April24-Bahia de Brazil --rappel at Elevador Lacerda 
April25-Bahia de Brazil --Fortaleza, Brazil find key phrase on painted wall
April26-Fortaleza, Brazil --Bolivia
April27-Fortaleza, Brazil --Bolivia
April28-La Paz, Bolivia (U-Turn sighting)
April29-Santa Cruz, Bolivia (Phil airport Sighting airport not a leg)
April30-Santiago, Chile (airport connection)
May1- (IDL)
May2-Auckland, NZ
May3- Auckland, NZ to Cambodia
May4-Siem Reap/Angkor Watt, Cambodia  ( 7 teams?)
May5-Siem Reap, Cambodia
May6-Thailand International Airport-Delhi India---New Delhi, India ( connection/aiport)  (6 teams)
May7- New Delhi, India.....
May8- Old Delhi
May9- Delhi to Kazakhstan
May10- Almaty, Kazakhstan
May11-Moscow, Russia
May12- Moscow, Russia
May13- Moscow, Russia --Frankfurt, Germany(connection only) to USA Portland, Oregon



 Neobie map

Thanks to Neobie  for the map
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index.jpg)
:bar:

Route Map  
1. Salvador, Brazil
2. Fortaleza, Brazil
3. La Paz, Bolivia
4. Te Puke, New Zealand
5. Siem Reap, Cambodia
6. New Delhi, India
7. Old Delhi, India
8. Almaty, Kazakhstan
9. Moscow, Russia
10. Moscow, Russia
11. Portland, Oregon

 (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_amazingrace.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/26Sep0001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2008, 08:24:37 PM
Moved from Lucky Tar 13 Talk!

Are they off??

Maybe...

Quote
The great thing about the LA airport is that you never know who or what you'll see. Last time we were there, we saw Maurice Jones-Drew. This time, as we were waiting for the team to get checked in at the airport, we got a glimpse of what appeared to be some competitors on The Amazing Race. I saw a camera crew shooting two blondes wearing hot pink sweatsuits as they quickly walked outside the terminal. Hmmm, don't think we've ever seen THAT kind of team before on the show (says she with heavy sarcasm). A few minutes later, we caught a glimpse of two more pairs. They didn't seem to be rushing too much, so I'm thinking they aren't going to last very long on this show.


http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-gym/stories/042308aac.html


This would be Tuesday 4/22--only 2 days behind our anticipated start.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2008, 08:36:02 PM
I can now say that this sighting appears to be completely reliable.

I have spoken with the author of the above article who is a huge TAR fan herself.

She saw the teams on 4/22 at about 11 AM outside the Delta terminal 5. Looking from inside the terminal out, the teams would have been moving to the right.

They were walking (not running) and were being filmed on the go.

Team makeup:

2 blondes in pink

A youngish male-male

One team unable to be sorted out from production, so make up unclear.

I can also tell you that I have official confirmation of filming.

And --best of all-- more info coming later!! Hang on to your hats!

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2008, 08:44:25 PM
LAX:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/lax_terminal_map.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: gingerman28 on April 23, 2008, 09:44:02 PM
LAX:
 

If the teams were seen from inside Terminal 5 walking to the right, they would be headed for Terminal 6 - or 7 - Aeromexico Copa, and United.  They could also be just strolling along killing time after checking in on an International flight in the International terminal.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2008, 09:47:58 PM
From inside to the right would be towards Term 6 and 7 if I am interpreting that map correctly.

But stand by--more coming! :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2008, 10:01:04 PM
Thanks to Peach's glorious discovery I decided to go down to LAX and check it out.  Again.  I had spent last Sunday afternoon there (4/20/08) and that was a bust.

But today's trip yields some new information.  I found several staffers who had seen filming yesterday.  One team was at the northmost main entry of Tom Bradley terminal having an interview.  Not rushed.

One team was at the American Airlines terminal being interviewed off in a quiet corner.

One United Employee in the domestic terminal (#6) had heard of TAR filming (she actually said Amazing Race) that happened in the their international terminal (#7). 

Two employees at the United International terminal had seen 3 teams arrive and purchase tickets at the far east end of the counters.  I asked if they had seen colored flags around any where:  "Any little flags stuck on the poles over there?  Like red and..."  And the guy said "Oh yes, Red and Gold"  That's close enough for me!  The gal said there was one team that was 'hippie' like with long white hair (she demonstrated with her hands at mid chest level).  They were an older couple, as in, male and female.  She estimated their ages to be 40's or 50's.  She also mentioned the two girls and another team that was just a regular young couple in their 20's.

No employees at either AA (terminal 4) or Delta (terminal 5) had seen any ticket buying by filmed pairs going at their counters.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
Okay--kogs asked me to summarize this:

We have thanks to kogs our first contestant picture :http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.0.html

This was taken in Chicago...

kogs has been hard at work looking at possible flights since yesterday and actually came up with this as a possible routing then. :jam:

LAX to:

United
LAX-IAD-AEZ
UAL847 B763 Ministro Pistarini (SAEZ) Tue 10:18PM EDT Wed 12:26PM GMT Wed 02:18AM GMT
American
LAX-ORD-AEZ
AAL961 B763 Ministro Pistarini (SAEZ) Tue 08:52PM CDT Wed 12:31PM GMT Wed 01:52AM GMT

For the airport code dummies like me, this is LAX via Dulles on United to Buenas Aires (flight 847 which departed at 10:18 take off was scheduled for 9:52)

and LAX via Chicago on American  also to Buenas Aires (which departed at 8:52 and take off was scheduled for 8:36)


So we may have our first stop thanks to kogs!! :jumpy: :jumpy:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: anon1akacolby on April 25, 2008, 05:30:30 PM
 :jumpy:  yay!  It begins!  Good job!  I can't believe they are leaving out of LAX again.   I wonder where the starting point in LA was this time?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 06:28:59 PM
I just took another trip to LAX.  That's three times in 5 days.  Lots to report so bear with me.

I went in the morning.  Or, at least before the general shift change of 1:30 pm.  That way I could hope to speak to more staffers who were on duty for Tuesday mornings activities.  The place was packed. 

I managed to speak to 5 staffers at the United check-in at terminal 7 who did not remember seeing anything.  I did the same thing for American at terminal 4.  With the same non-result.  They were all under pressure from the crowds.

I got the phone numbers for the two other Hudson Bookstores which are behind security lines.  I called the one in United's terminal and the employee had been working Tuesday morning but he did not remember any filming going on.  I called the other one at the American terminal and ...  :jumpy: :jumpy:  Yes!  She did remember that there were camera crews filming people looking at the travel books.  But, unfortunately none of them ever asked her for books on a particular destination.  So she did not know what country they were looking for.

This piece of information has serious implications because anybody there would have had to buy an American Airlines ticket.  You can't get there with a United Ticket.

So, Kogs, you have your answer:  Yes, they did for sure use AA and United.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Chateau d If on April 25, 2008, 06:37:45 PM
Okay, and  there is a little bit more...

I went back to the United ticket counter and waited patiently through the advance purchase line so I could try to ask other employees about Tuesday.  This time I hit pay dirt!   :wohoo:

The guy had been watching me wait forever due to some problem clients ahead of me.  He was apologetic.  He was there on Tuesday.  He saw the filming.  He knew what is was for.  He was wondering if I knew what it was for.  I nodded.  So then I just point blank asked "Where were they flying to?"  And he said "Brazil.     Sao Paulo, Brazil"

He also confirmed the Hippie couple.  They are old enough to be originals from the 60's.

He said there were 5 teams going via UA and 6 teams via AA.

So there you have it:   11 teams of two.  Off to their first destination in Sao Paulo.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: puddin on April 25, 2008, 06:52:44 PM
I don't even know where to begin saying that you rock Chateau!!!!!!! :yess: :jumpy:


I suppose the archives  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,7732.0.html) are always a fun place to start :)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: michael on April 25, 2008, 07:58:30 PM
 :yess:

GREAT WORK CHATEAU!

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: north09 on April 25, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Every action makes a reaction.
We'll figure it out and make it happen.

Great Job Chateau!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2008, 09:17:35 PM
TAR Detectives at work!! :wohoo:

 Great job Chateau!!

:cheer: :yourock: :cheer:

Okay...who knows some one in Sao Paulo?  :lol: I have a Portuguese translator available in the family if need be...

Yippee!! :jumpy: :jumpy:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: graytex on April 25, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
I'm not sure if there is anything in this, but the guy that posted the racer picture has now posted this picture that says TAR gate C20.  I believe it is just where he saw the guy because the Buenos Aires flight leaves from gate C11, but maybe there is a clue.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandenheuvel/2441105604/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandenheuvel/2441105604/)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2008, 10:26:14 PM
Heee...that means he got my email!


Do we have a departure gate for the Sao Paulo flights??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: graytex on April 25, 2008, 10:45:44 PM
Interesting...  C20 is in Terminal 1 which, according to the O'Hare map is:  Lufthansa, Ryan International, Ted, United, United Express (check-in and baggage claim).

United flight 843, LAX to Chicago, Chicago to Sao Paolo (change of plane in Chicago but all the same flight number).  On 4/22 scheduled departure of 9:32pm, actual departure 10:18pm.  Don't know what gate it left from on 4/22, but on the 24th - 26th it has been or is scheduled to be out of Gate C15 and Gate C16 and Gate C20.

American flight 963 from DFW to Sao Paolo departed at 8:17pm
American flight 995 from Miami to Sao Paolo departed at 12:10am

My guess is that the American flights would arrive in Sao Paolo first.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: patlini on April 25, 2008, 10:56:56 PM
a bit late but chateau - you are a star!!!!   :kuss: :kuss: :kuss:

sao paulo again
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2008, 01:05:33 AM
:jumpy: This is an all-star team! Great job!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Real Spoilers Only!*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2008, 02:57:13 AM
The person who took the photo of our contestant in Chicago very kindly agreed to answer some questions--and as you'll see is also a huge TAR fan! and I hope may be joining us here before too long...

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Questions from my initial email...
Would it be all right if I asked you some questions about exactly what you saw?  Totally  
 
Where were you when you took this? Which terminal? (we think maybe 3??)  Terminal C at O'Hare, at gate 20  
 
Any idea which way he was heading? Towards what part of the airport?  They were trying to get on a flight to Sao Paolo   :yess:
 
What tipped you off that this was TAR?  It was unmistakable. This guy was with... what we were guessing his mom. And then we saw a camera crew with the Hippies. Hey, if you watch the show as faithfully as we do... it was easy to see.  
 
What time was it? as close as possible. ..  Around 7:45 pm  
 
Who did you see with him--could you tell us anything about his partner--male, female, whatever...  Female partner... most likely mom.  
 
Is the gentleman in the background with him--or not?  no  
 
Did you see any other teams? Any other pictures by chance?  We saw The Hippies, we saw the Blondes in Pink, and we saw what we would describe as two 23-26 year old "Slacker Dudes"
 

Were you able to speak to them? Any idea of where they are going?  Yes, we talked with them, but they did not confirm or deny that they were TAR contestants and did not give out autograph, citing that they were not allowed to.
  

And we have shamelessly have "borrowed" your picture  (blush)...  NO problem Glad to help!  

------------------------------------------------

 :jumpy: :hearts:  :jumpy:
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Post by: graytex on April 26, 2008, 07:12:42 AM
I think the two most likely flights from LAX to Chicago were:

United 114:  Depart 12:04pm arrive 6:07pm
United 116:  Depart 12:55pm arrive 6:55pm
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 26, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Great work Peach!

It is great to get that independent confirmation of facts.  It rules out the dreaded possibility that someone is making it up just to get rid of you.  There's no better way for it to happen.  I love reproducible results.

I wish your guy took more pictures.
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Post by: Hi-Fi on April 26, 2008, 06:44:06 PM
Wow! Brazil again??

Guys, I'm brazilian, but I live in Rio, not São Paulo. Anyway, if there's anything I can do, let me know! Cheers, TAR Detectives!
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 26, 2008, 09:53:33 PM
Lots of place to go in Brazil: Manaus, and how about Brazilia?  I know, I know anyone living in Rio wouldn't be caught dead in Brazilia!
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Post by: Kogs on April 29, 2008, 10:06:49 PM

From Shacklebolt at twop (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10194003),

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I can't back up this info with more than this http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=20004968 - in portuguese - but it appears they traveled to Salvador, Brazil's third largest city, on April 24 and 25. One of the tasks was to rappel down the Elevador Lacerda, a city landmark (the white structure). The source is a local newspaper.

Hope it helps.


i babled it into english  and the first post of the thread states this
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24/04/2008

The bahian capital is the scene chosen for the writings of reality American show "the Maratona", an international competition where teams cover some countries fulfilling a series of tasks. The program, that counts today on a hearing of more than 50 million people per year, already is being recorded in some of the main tourist points of Salvador. In the morning of this thursday (day 24), the competitors of reality show had had that to go down, in the style rappel, the 70 meters of the Lacerda Elevator. To carry through the test, that called the attention who passed for the place, the filming team installed a net to the long one of the elevator.

The presence of the program in the city, initiative that counts on the support of the Agency of Economic Development of Salvador (Adesa), through the project Salvador Film Commission, promises to result in an important national and international promotion for the bahian capital. For the superintendent in exercise of the Adesa, Loyal Leonel, "productions as this, besides guaranteeing income and chance of work for the technician and the local population, are an excellent card-postcard to attract new tourists and more investments for our city". In its 13ª edition and shown by net AXN of the United States, reality show will take the beautiful landscapes of Salvador for diverse parts of the world, through the closed canals of TV.

Still inside of the actions of the program, new writings are foreseen tomorrow, of this time in the Maritime Terminal of Salvador, in the Commerce. Until the moment, already they had served of location for the international production the Square of the Sé, the Inclined Plan Gonçalves, the Order Third of the San Francisco (Historical Center), the Slope of the Carmo and the staircase of the Paço.

It is not the first time that attractive the tourist ones of the city serve of scene for great televising productions. In the end of the passed year, Salvador was palco of the writings of the program Xuxa Connection, that covered points as the Lighthouse and the Port of the Bar, the Corridor of the Victory, the Square of the Campo Grande, the Market Model and the Tip of the Humaitá. The team also used as scene Fort Serrat the Mount and the Fort Is Marcelo.

Film Commission

Exactly before its official launching, the project Salvador Film Commission already offers to institucional support the audiovisuais productions, facilitating to information regarding licenses and necessary authorizations for filmings. To make possible the production of reality show "the Maratona", the Adesa intermediated, together the municipal agencies, the document release that the producer Planet Film needed for the writing of the program.

The Adesa, after the total implantation of Salvador Film Commission, will give services, such as survey of bank of images and visits the locations, qualification and cadastre of technician of the area, institucional support e, mainly, will continue working to attract new productions that can use to advantage the natural beauty and the urban historical quantity of Salvador as scene.


Fonte:Camaçari Notice

so we now know leg2
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 29, 2008, 11:00:20 PM
Thanks to Shacklebolt, Peach can start her map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&ll=-12.973571,-38.511704&spn=0.005918,0.011673&t=h&z=17&msid=103394380762462816691.00044c0f107dc0ee30d9c) collection now.  :js:
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 29, 2008, 11:23:16 PM
I've run this paragraph through a couple of translators and I can't decide if it describes other TAR13 places or locations for other productions. ???
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Ainda dentro das ações do programa, estão previstas novas gravações amanhã, desta vez no Terminal Marítimo de Salvador, no Comércio. Até o momento, já serviram de locação para a produção internacional a Praça da Sé, o Plano Inclinado Gonçalves, a Ordem Terceira do São Francisco (Centro Histórico), a Ladeira do Carmo e a escadaria do Paço.
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Post by: puddin on April 29, 2008, 11:41:39 PM
Heres some info  (http://www.ferrolatino.ch/FLBBrasFunicSalvEng.htm) Gonçalves, & Elevador Lacerda.

Salvador's Maritime Terminal (http://www.e-pousadas.com/p_comochegar_eng.htm)

tramways (http://www.tramz.com/br/sv/sv.html)

Salvador da Bahia: Getting there & around (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/brazil/salvador-da-bahia/getting-there-and-around)
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 12:02:26 AM
 :jumpy:

news  (http://salvadornoticias.blogspot.com/2008/04/reality-show-internacional-grava.html)

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Quinta-feira, 24 de Abril de 2008
Reality show internacional grava especial em Salvador



Durante três dias, Salvador será o cenário do reality show americano “A Maratona”, programa produzido pela Planet Film Produções e visto por mais de 50 milhões de pessoas por ano. Trata-se de uma competição internacional de times que rodam o planeta atrás de tarefas que, quando cumpridas, indicam o próximo destino para os competidores. Ao final, a equipe que chegar na frente leva o prêmio milionário. As cenas do programa na Bahia serão feitas em diversas localidades turísticas e tradicionais de Salvador, como o Terreiro de Jesus, Praça Municipal e Comércio. A iniciativa conta com o apoio da Agência de Desenvolvimento Econômico de Salvador (Adesa), através do Projeto Salvador Film Commission.

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Thursday, 24 of April of 2008 Reality international show records special in Salvador During three days, Salvador will be the scene of reality American show "the Maratona", program produced for the Planet Film Productions and visa for more than 50 million people per year. One is about an international competition of teamses who twirl the planet behind tasks that, when fulfilled, they indicate the next destination for the competitors. To the end, the team that to arrive in the front takes the prize millionaire. The scenes of the program in the Bahia will be made in diverse tourist and traditional localities of Salvador, as the Place of fetichism of Jesus, Municipal Square and Commerce. The initiative counts on the support of the Agency of Economic Development of Salvador (Adesa), through the Project Salvador Film Commission.


More!! (http://www.samuelcelestino.com.br/)


SALVADOR IS PALCO FOR WRITING OF REALITY INTERNATIONAL SHOW 23/04/2008 11:10:00/

During three Salvador days American show will be the scene of reality "the Maratona", program produced for the Planet Film Productions and visa for more than 50 million people per year. One is about an international competition of teamses who twirl the planet behind tasks that, when fulfilled, they indicate the next destination for the competitors. To the end, the team that arrives at the front takes the prize millionaire. In its 13ª edition and being shown for the net of open television of the United States, and in the remaining portion of the world for the closed canals, the program arrived at the Bahia with a team of filmings that it intends to record scenes with the participants fulfilling tasks in diverse tourist and traditional localities of Salvador, as the Place of fetichism of Jesus, Municipal Square and Commerce. Rafael Albuquerque


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/30Apr0001.jpg)
 Thanks to a little trick Slowhatch taught me the little picture of what sure appears to be a team/teams is dated
DateTime : 2008:04:24 11:35:05

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-31.jpg)
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 30, 2008, 12:57:01 AM
Great work Puddin!  :jumpy:
Fire up Google Earth/Maps and look just to the right of the elevator and you can match the wavy patterns on the ground of Terreiro square. (street map here (http://www.praticus.com/salvador.htm))

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-32.jpg)
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Post by: Hi-Fi on April 30, 2008, 01:19:44 AM
Ainda dentro das ações do programa, estão previstas novas gravações amanhã, desta vez no Terminal Marítimo de Salvador, no Comércio. Até o momento, já serviram de locação para a produção internacional a Praça da Sé, o Plano Inclinado Gonçalves, a Ordem Terceira do São Francisco (Centro Histórico), a Ladeira do Carmo e a escadaria do Paço.

Translation (as requested by peach):
They will be filming tomorrow in the Terminal Maritimo de Salvador, in Comercio. Up until now, they already filmed in Praca da Sé, Plano Inclinado Goncalves, Ordem Tercerida de Sao Francisco (Historic center), Ladeira do Carmo and Paco's Stairways.
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 01:50:30 AM
gosh I leave for a few hours and you guys have dug up a second leg on TAR, There is a picture of two people climbing that rope ladder is that a team if so can we get an enlargement???
It does not help kiwi .........

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/30Apr0000.jpg)
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Post by: Hi-Fi on April 30, 2008, 01:56:57 AM
How did you guys find all that info?? I'm using google and it's giving me nothing! LOL

I'm trying to contact some people in Salvador to visit Elevador Lacerda and check for teams discriptions!
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 30, 2008, 02:07:34 AM
Thanks for the translation, Hi-Fi.  :tup: So far, everything seems within walking distance (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103394380762462816691.00044c0f107dc0ee30d9c&ll=-12.97125,-38.510749&spn=0.011835,0.023346&z=16).
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Post by: apskip on April 30, 2008, 07:40:17 AM
I've run this paragraph through a couple of translators and I can't decide if it describes other TAR13 places or locations for other productions. ???
Quote
Ainda dentro das ações do programa, estão previstas novas gravações amanhã, desta vez no Terminal Marítimo de Salvador, no Comércio. Até o momento, já serviram de locação para a produção internacional a Praça da Sé, o Plano Inclinado Gonçalves, a Ordem Terceira do São Francisco (Centro Histórico), a Ladeira do Carmo e a escadaria do Paço.

Slowhatch, I remember that Salvador was one of the many Brazilian locations for A Corrida Milionaria, the Brazilian version of the Amazing Race.
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Post by: Kogs on April 30, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
Do you think Planet Film Productions is Earthview? and its just translating that way?

planet film is another production company tar uses. they used them during tar9 leg1
heres there website http://www.filmplanet.com/site_en.htm
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 05:24:14 PM
:badhorse: another writeup

ART And CULTURE Wednesday, 23 of April of 2008
Reality international show records special in Salvador Ascom


During three days, Salvador will be the scene of reality American show "the Maratona", program produced for the Planet Film Productions and visa for more than 50 million people per year. One is about an international competition of teamses who twirl the planet behind tasks that, when fulfilled, they indicate the next destination for the competitors. To the end, the team that arrives at the front takes the prize millionaire. The Agency of Economic Development of Salvador (Adesa), through the Project Salvador Film Commission, apóia this important production that results in national and international promotion of the bahian capital.


In its 13ª edition and being shown for the net of open television of the United States, and in the remaining portion of the world for the closed canals, the program arrived at the Bahia with a team of filmings that it intends to record scenes with the participants fulfilling tasks in diverse tourist and traditional localities of Salvador, as the Place of fetichism of Jesus, Municipal Square and Commerce. For the superintendent in exercise of the Adesa, Loyal Leonel, "productions as this, besides guaranteeing income and chance of work for the technician and the local population, are an excellent card-postcard to attract new tourists and new investments for our city".



Exactly before its official launching, Salvador Film Commission already offers to institucional support the audiovisuais productions, facilitating to information regarding licenses and necessary authorizations for filmings. In this production, for example, the autarchy is intermediating, together the municipal agencies, the document release that the Planet Film needs to film reality show. The Adesa, after the total implantation of Salvador Film Commission, will give services, such as survey of bank of images and visits the locations, qualification and cadastre of technician of the area, institucional support e, mainly, will continue working to attract new productions that can use to advantage



ART And CULTURE Friday, 25 of April of 2008
It records? of Reality Show it explores points tur?icos of the capital Ascom


The bahian capital is the scene chosen for the writings of reality American show "the Maratona", an international competition where teams cover some countries fulfilling a series of tasks. The program, that counts today on a hearing of more than 50 million people per year, already is being recorded in some of the main tourist points of Salvador. In the morning of this thursday (day 24), the competitors of reality show had had that to go down, in the style rappel, the 70 meters of the Lacerda Elevator. To carry through the test, that called the attention who passed for the place, the filming team installed a net to the long one of the elevator.

The presence of the program in the city, initiative that counts on the support of the Agency of Economic Development of Salvador (Adesa), through the project Salvador Film Commission, promises to result in an important national and international promotion for the bahian capital. For the superintendent in exercise of the Adesa, Loyal Leonel, "productions as this, besides guaranteeing income and chance of work for the technician and the local population, are an excellent card-postcard to attract new tourists and more investments for our city". In its 13ª edition and shown by net AXN of the United States, reality show will take the beautiful landscapes of Salvador for diverse parts of the world, through the closed canals of TV.

Still inside of the actions of the program, new writings are foreseen tomorrow, of this time in the Maritime Terminal of Salvador, in the Commerce. Until the moment, already they had served of location for the international production the Square of the Sé, the Inclined Plan Gonçalves, the Order Third of the San Francisco (Historical Center), the Slope of the Carmo and the staircase of the Paço.

It is not the first time that attractive the tourist ones of the city serve of scene for great televising productions. In the end of the passed year, Salvador was palco of the writings of the program Xuxa Connection, that covered points as the Lighthouse and the Port of the Bar, the Corridor of the Victory, the Square of the Campo Grande, the Market Model and the Tip of the Humaitá. The team also used as scene Fort Serrat the Mount and the Fort Is Marcelo.


Film Commission

Exactly before its official launching, the project Salvador Film Commission already offers to institucional support the audiovisuais productions, facilitating to information regarding licenses and necessary authorizations for filmings. To make possible the production of reality show "the Maratona", the Adesa intermediated, together the municipal agencies, the document release that the producer Planet Film needed for the writing of the program.

The Adesa, after the total implantation of Salvador Film Commission, will give services, such as survey of bank of images and visits the locations, qualification and cadastre of technician of the area, institucional support e, mainly, will continue working to attract new productions that can use to advantage the natural beauty and the urban historical quantity of Salvador as scene.


source (http://www.salvadornoticias.com.br/leitura.php?id=5459)
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 07:19:09 PM
Its always fun to see the behind the scenes prepping Uploaded April 25th (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviomachado/sets/72157604725141866/) but I think its from the 22nd, it mirrors this album (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flores__paisagens/sets/72157604776735632/).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2440709845_0ae2d932b7_b.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2441542080_a182f7a8e0_b.jpg)

From the April 22 Album

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2444085002_c9d515e2fc_b.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 07:29:55 PM
Just for kicks ..... taken on April 21st ? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25972699@N06/2436738417/)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2436738417_7221ec5189_b.jpg)
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 30, 2008, 07:55:15 PM
Thanks, Puddin.   :jam: One says the 21st, one the 23rd, and one the 25th: but the guy in the red helmet (Branament?) hasn't moved an inch.  :lol:
Maybe the single lines went down first as support or guide lines for the cargo net.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7504/indexpi7.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexpi7.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2008, 10:51:33 PM
per raceguy at TWOP:

Could they already be in Melbourne?

Reference is VERY vague...but here you go!

Quote
Just got off the phone with a friend of mine. Apparently - though I can't prove one way or the other because they don't have a camera and I'm stuck at uni - there's a flag on top of an office building on Elizabeth Street right now. The only likely task, if any, would be one of those 'look out the window and find a flag' deals. I'm thinking there's also a cluebox set up right now on the Rialto Towers Observation Deck, which would make sense because there's a new tower with a higher observation deck, and this gets fewer spoilerhunters like myself.

Firstly, crappy task, even if it's one I just speculated about, and secondly, evil making them visit Melbourne in the middle of a cold snap - currently it's around 1:20pm local time, and temperature is 10.2 degrees Celsius. [Americans, that's just a tiny fraction over 50 degrees Fahrenheit by my count - and yes, that is a cold snap by local standards.] Still, both Sydney and Cairns (and Darwin too?) were rainy when TAR came, so I suppose I shouldn't complain.

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10202932
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Post by: Hi-Fi on April 30, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
Could it be the Melbourne Amazing Race, peach?

http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=13046
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Post by: puddin on April 30, 2008, 11:18:19 PM
Could it be the Melbourne Amazing Race, peach?

http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=13046
"The 3rd public Great Melbourne Pursuit is coming to Melbourne on the 4th October 2008.

I would laugh if apskips was right again  :lol:

Note to Melbourne, in the future, better webcams (http://webcam.omniconnect.com.au/movies.php) please.

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2008, 11:28:35 PM
I agree about the local Melbourne races--dates don't look right--I also track corporate stuff and don't recall anything ongoing in Melbourne just now. But to be safe, I already emailed the organizers to ask if anything they are running could fit that description. Also know raceguy so am asking for more detailed info...
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2008, 11:36:25 PM
more from raceguy...

Quote
I don't know about the building, his phone cut out at precisely the wrong
moment. I've been trying to get a hold of him since I posted for more, but...
yeah.

But he did tell me it was a 'gold and red flag like that show you obsess about'.
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 01, 2008, 12:30:37 AM
more from raceguy...

Quote
I don't know about the building, his phone cut out at precisely the wrong
moment. I've been trying to get a hold of him since I posted for more, but...
yeah.

But he did tell me it was a 'gold and red flag like that show you obsess about'.


he's edited his post to add
Quote
ETA: He's the sort of person who would play a trick on me like this, so there's about a 50% chance he's sitting at home laughing his frozen arse off at me right now.
so I guess we have to sit tight and wait to see if anyone else can confirm or deny the sighting...
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2008, 02:55:16 AM
Thanks, Puddin.   :jam: One says the 21st, one the 23rd, and one the 25th: but the guy in the red helmet (Branament?) hasn't moved an inch.  :lol:
Maybe the single lines went down first as support or guide lines for the cargo net.
From the Slowhatch book of school of course, I learned from the best :)

fwiw~Season 9 they used Alaya (http://www.alaya.com.br/eventos/eventos-montagem-logistica.php)
Our team meets its request with the agility with agility specifies its sector of events anywhere in Brazil with the confidence that any organiser of events accurately.
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Post by: lucas.cgc on May 01, 2008, 08:30:04 AM
Maybe is a little late to say that, but I live here in Salvador, and I saw them on the elevator, but I was just passing by, I just don't realized that they are from The Amazing Race. In that moment, a couple were on the top and another one in the middle of the way. Beyond that, I'm not helpful...
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2008, 09:14:27 AM
:welcome2: to RFF lucas!!

Lucky you!

Sure you can help!

What did the couples look like? (young--male--female??)

Who was ahead at the time you saw them!

I'm jealous! :lol:
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2008, 10:30:53 AM
Maybe is a little late to say that, but I live here in Salvador, and I saw them on the elevator, but I was just passing by, I just don't realized that they are from The Amazing Race. In that moment, a couple were on the top and another one in the middle of the way. Beyond that, I'm not helpful...

Cool!  Can you give us a date and time of the sighting, Lucas?

Welcome aboard the best of the best :waves:
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Post by: puddin on May 01, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
Maybe is a little late to say that, but I live here in Salvador, and I saw them on the elevator, but I was just passing by, I just don't realized that they are from The Amazing Race. In that moment, a couple were on the top and another one in the middle of the way. Beyond that, I'm not helpful...
Nice to meet you luca, thank you for sharing :hithere:.
Can you do us a favor and look around the Internet for local pictures of the teams or flags & clue boxes?
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Post by: msbuni on May 01, 2008, 05:58:03 PM
Wow - I am finally going to be traveling during May and early June - when do we anticipate an arrival back into the US?  I will keep my camera with me at all times at the airports!!  :jumpy:
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Post by: lucas.cgc on May 02, 2008, 08:48:31 AM

Cool!  Can you give us a date and time of the sighting, Lucas?

Welcome aboard the best of the best :waves:

Well, I saw then thursday 24th, around 9 or 10 a.m.
I was a bit far from the elevator, so I couldn't saw a lot, but I'm sure that a couple was on the middle, and what's looked like another couple of competitors on the top. There was some production around too (cameras, etc.).

The show is not very popular here (american version only in cable television, and the brazilian version is from a very small tv network), so is very difficult to find photos and news, but if what I heard is right, they went to those places: http://maps.google.com.br/maps/ms?hl=pt-BR&gl=br&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105917186352164776559.00044c3f6e3010f0d64ad (http://maps.google.com.br/maps/ms?hl=pt-BR&gl=br&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105917186352164776559.00044c3f6e3010f0d64ad)

Intersting if all done was at those places, because all they are in a very little part of the city, the Historic Center.

If I find out anything more usefull, I'll bring here later.
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Post by: Hi-Fi on May 02, 2008, 12:15:13 PM
Oi, Lucas!

Ha, eles com certeza foram no Mrcado Modelo. Tem a maior cara de Amazing Race encontrar alguém ou alguma lojinha especifica naquela bagunca toda!  :tup:

Tem como você perguntar no elevador pra algum funcionário se eles se lembram das duplas? Pedir por uma descricão delas?

Grande abraco!
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 02, 2008, 02:29:23 PM
Huh?  Well anyway it sounds good!

Welcome  :waves:  and thanks for the info :jumpy:  It jives with what other info we haver  :jumpy: So heck with the abraco, have a pint on me :jam:
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Post by: Hi-Fi on May 02, 2008, 02:42:53 PM
Heh, sorry GMan

I was asking Lucas to see if he could run to the Elevator and ask the staff about teams descriptions and stuff like that.  :tup:
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Post by: lucas.cgc on May 02, 2008, 06:46:53 PM
Oi, Lucas!

Ha, eles com certeza foram no Mrcado Modelo. Tem a maior cara de Amazing Race encontrar alguém ou alguma lojinha especifica naquela bagunca toda!  :tup:

Tem como você perguntar no elevador pra algum funcionário se eles se lembram das duplas? Pedir por uma descricão delas?

Grande abraco!

Hum, se dar tempo (e não chover como choveu hoje) eu vou ver se amanhã dou uma pesquisada por lá. Eu pensei nisso, mas eu não tenho muita certeza se eles passaram pelo Mercado, pois é muito próximo do elevador, só se tudo fosse na mesma prova.

GMan, sorry for the portuguese conversation, I'm just saying that maybe I'll to some of those places tomorrow, trying to find information about the competitors.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2008, 10:43:27 PM
Thanks Lucas! and I especially LOVE the map!! (I'm the map girl :lol:)

If you could find out what the teams looked like, what teams were in front, and somemore times--that would be fabulous!!
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
Oh happy days are here again! I think we found them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Siem Reap Town, Cambodia
 


An Amazing Race
USA | Sunday, 4 May 2008 |
 



Sure, the highlight today should have been the magnificent visit to Angkor Wat, but I'll be the first to admit I was a little obsessed with the filming of a certain, unnamed reality show that airs on Tuesday nights on CBS, that features pairs of people adventuring on a global scavenger hunt.  I think you catch my drift.  I even got filmed helping one of the contestants find her clue and signed my life away to CBS, or at least signed away any shot of royalities from a brief glimpse of fame!  We'll definitely be watching when the new season starts to see if we can spot ourselves in the "travel documentary" that two of the contestants said they were in :)

We arrived in Siem Reap a mere 13 hours after leaving Ho Chi Min City by bus, with a brief stop in Phnomh Penh for a little monsoon and a side of lunch.  We settled in the "popular" guest house to rest up for our big day of temples.

The temples truly are spectacular, and even more so when you think of how they were constructed so long ago.  We had our private tuk-tuk driver taking us around, and we ended the day watching the sunset from top of a hillside temple, the highest point the region.

(http://i25.[banned image hosting site].com/2evw9r8.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2008, 11:33:51 AM
 :yess:

Cambodia's Culinary Delights
May 4, 2008
........while I made my way to Siem Reap, by boat . Wise choice. The water is low, but we only got snagged a few times, making it here in about six hours. I've really enjoyed boat travel in SE Asia so I was glad to have one more opportunity before leaving this part of the world.

We also witnessed upon arrival what appeared to be a segment being filmed for Amazing Race. Before we could take off from the dock, we had to sit and wait while they filmed some couple with backpacks stacking baskets and then jumping in the back of a truck.

source (http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/5219/Cambodias-Culinary-Delights-Battambang-133)
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2008, 11:48:52 AM
:yess:

Cambodia's Culinary Delights
May 4, 2008
........while I made my way to Siem Reap, by boat . Wise choice. The water is low, but we only got snagged a few times, making it here in about six hours. I've really enjoyed boat travel in SE Asia so I was glad to have one more opportunity before leaving this part of the world.

We also witnessed upon arrival what appeared to be a segment being filmed for Amazing Race. Before we could take off from the dock, we had to sit and wait while they filmed some couple with backpacks stacking baskets and then jumping in the back of a truck.

source (http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/5219/Cambodias-Culinary-Delights-Battambang-133)

Cambodia!  Looks like speculation by apskip of trip to Melbourne after Salvador da Bahia may be correct.  If they are in Cambodia on May 3 or 4, then a stop first in Australia would be practical.

So the schedule may be something like this:

LAX to Sao Paulo

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia

To Melbourne, Austraila

Somewhere else in Australia (Tasmania)
 
Or Singapore

Cambodia

Do the dates work out?

And note that if this indeed is from TAR13, than our girl has a ROADBLOCK clue (red banner) in her hand!
Now we know the location and at least one of the tasks!!!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 04, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
Nice work Puddin!   :jumpy: :jumpy:

I think we can expect some more information to come from the travelers who took the picture.

Oh Peach, emissary of information extraction!   I can already tell you that the time of day is high noon.
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2008, 04:24:53 PM
WRP has used this company for production services in the past, toggle through works/television, other locations that they offer include  *Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand*
http://www.crea-tv.com/indexsub.html

FLO Alert!!
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Post by: Neobie on May 04, 2008, 08:47:09 PM
*cringes in pain*

I flew from Hong Kong to Singapore yesterday! :duno:
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 04, 2008, 08:53:43 PM
Best known as home of the world-famous Angkor Wat, Siem Reap is a town that mesmerizes all who come here. Other ancient ruins and temples can be found standing in this colonial town. Located in the northwestern part of Cambodia, Seam Reap is really one of a kind in its heritage. Centuries ago, Siem Reap had been better than Europe who was struggling in the Dark Ages. At that time, Siem Reap had made an empire.

The world’s largest temple complex was found only again in 1861, which was in the middle of the jungle. The area is huge and the Angkor Wat alone will take a long day to explore since there are hundreds of temples. The site is so enormous and confusing you will usually get lost in the corridors.

Lakes are also prominent in Siem Reap, one of which is Tonle Sap. In Southeast Asia, it is the largest freshwater lake. The atmosphere when you explore the vastness of this is very tranquil and peaceful. Go by boat here and experience what others had enjoyed as well. Not only is this a popular attraction for the tourists, it is also important for the Cambodians since this is where they mostly get their fishes.
http://journeymanblog.com/angkor-wat-and-tonle-sap-in-siem-reap/ (http://journeymanblog.com/angkor-wat-and-tonle-sap-in-siem-reap/)

Links to photos below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/gallery/2007/mar/24/wonders.angkorwat.moaistatues?picture=329755158 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/gallery/2007/mar/24/wonders.angkorwat.moaistatues?picture=329755158)
http://www.tropicalisland.de/cambodia.html (http://www.tropicalisland.de/cambodia.html) (lots of pics, including large version of map)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-33.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-34.jpg)

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Post by: Neobie on May 04, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
Looks like the actual Angkor Wat to me (as opposed to the other temples in the Siem Reap area, which are also known collectively as Angkor Wat), take a look at this photo:

(http://z.about.com/d/adventuretravel/1/0/8/-/-/-/ClimbAngkorWatA.jpg)

 (http://i25.[banned image hosting site].com/2evw9r8.jpg)

The other temples have more signs of decay, I'd say.
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Post by: puddin on May 04, 2008, 09:52:01 PM
*cringes in pain*

I flew from Hong Kong to Singapore yesterday! :duno:
:groan: Now that we found them I hope we don't lose them Neobie.

from the blog ..........

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4412/indexvv5.th.jpg) (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexvv5.jpg)(http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2134/index1fn5.th.jpg) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=index1fn5.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2008, 11:35:07 PM
Three cheers for puddin! :hearts:

This is a great find--we only lost sight of them for a few days! :happy:

And Angor Wat--how wonderful to get to see this! I feel a Map coming on! :lol:
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2008, 09:43:17 AM
*cringes in pain*

I flew from Hong Kong to Singapore yesterday! :duno:
:groan: Now that we found them I hope we don't lose them Neobie.

from the blog ..........

So this is the fella with the green shirt we see in the shot of the redhead with the red clue.  So she is doing the ROADBLOCK  :yess:and he is cheering her on :tup:  Or is he the  blogger?
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 09:54:04 AM


So this is the fella with the green shirt we see in the shot of the redhead with the red clue.  So she is doing the ROADBLOCK  :yess:and he is cheering her on :tup:  Or is he the  blogger?
I think the blue shirt , I see it as blue, is the blogger ="she", lol
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Post by: mswood on May 05, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
And based on her finger pointing, she is either looking for a path, or what I think is more likely counting for her roadblock.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 05, 2008, 02:53:16 PM
From magrett (newbie) at TWoP:

Quote
A friend of mine was in Siem Reap, Cambodia a couple of days ago and saw:

"an African American couple down by the dock, and she was holding their backpacks and he was stacking baskets and then they jumped in the back of a waiting truck and off they went. They kept filming them while in the back of the truck, and then they got out and were heading up to a wat I think"
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 03:01:30 PM
Thanks for bringing that over peach, its a small world afterall  :lol:!!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 05, 2008, 04:51:20 PM
No worries--maybe I should have put it there. :lol:

More from magret:

Quote
It was on May 3rd. She did not see any other teams. I will see if I can find out about the time and pictures.
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Post by: north09 on May 05, 2008, 06:19:18 PM
Perhaps the black couple were far ahead, or far behind.
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 07:23:20 PM
Monday, May 5, 2008
My flight out of Santiago-

 
Sometimes people make foolish mistakes that have small consequences and other mistakes can be quite costly, I made one of the costly ones last week. I booked a ticket from Santiago to Oklahoma, the ticket was $450, all the other flights were around a thousand dollars, so of course I booked the cheaper flight, when I showed up to the airport in Santiago I went to check in and the flight was not on the board, and the counter did not upon for 8 hours, so I asked a service personal and she said that she had never heard of the flight number. So I went to the airlines office and then I found out that I had booked a flight from Santiago Dominican Republic and not Santiago Chile, the lady at the desk asked me how I was planning in getting to the Dominican Republic to take this flight, and at this moment I felt like the biggest idiot in the world, some world traveller I have become. So I was blessed when the ticket sales office opened there was a very wonderful employee who worked for almost 30 minutes checking on different flights for me, actually the ticket cost was at that time $2700 to fly to Oklahoma, but my newest friend behind the counter, helped me find a flight and also came up with a special fare I think just for me, and so for $1000 I had a ticket back to Oklahoma. But he told me that I lost the $450 on my other ticket, but he kindly told me that I could most likely get a travel voucher to fly one way from the Dominican Republic to any destination. this was not very reassuring because it was one way, and that would mean that I would have to get to Dominican Republic to even use the ticket. But my mother when given this information called the US office and after another half an hour on the phone they returned this $450, TRULY AMAZING! And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

Posted by Justin Vorel at  (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)


eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.

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Post by: Slowhatch on May 05, 2008, 09:01:16 PM
Great work, Puddin!  :jumpy:
I don't know if this (http://rezworldtour.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race-following-amazing-rez-haha.html) is a racer or the blogger, so I'll put it here.
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Post by: michael on May 05, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
slowhatch!!!
the guy in blue is holding a folded clue i think!
i think that's another racer!  :yess:
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 09:23:37 PM
Oh happy day again! Good find Slowhatch .................

per Michael  :yess:
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3717/indexir3.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexir3.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 09:33:09 PM
a fwiw .. not the same blue shirt imo if anyone thinks so

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9230/index3so5.th.jpg) (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=index3so5.jpg)
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2008, 09:52:36 PM
Monday, May 5, 2008
My flight out of Santiago-

 
Sometimes people make foolish mistakes that have small consequences and other mistakes can be quite costly, I made one of the costly ones last week. I booked a ticket from Santiago to Oklahoma, the ticket was $450, all the other flights were around a thousand dollars, so of course I booked the cheaper flight, when I showed up to the airport in Santiago I went to check in and the flight was not on the board, and the counter did not upon for 8 hours, so I asked a service personal and she said that she had never heard of the flight number. So I went to the airlines office and then I found out that I had booked a flight from Santiago Dominican Republic and not Santiago Chile, the lady at the desk asked me how I was planning in getting to the Dominican Republic to take this flight, and at this moment I felt like the biggest idiot in the world, some world traveller I have become. So I was blessed when the ticket sales office opened there was a very wonderful employee who worked for almost 30 minutes checking on different flights for me, actually the ticket cost was at that time $2700 to fly to Oklahoma, but my newest friend behind the counter, helped me find a flight and also came up with a special fare I think just for me, and so for $1000 I had a ticket back to Oklahoma. But he told me that I lost the $450 on my other ticket, but he kindly told me that I could most likely get a travel voucher to fly one way from the Dominican Republic to any destination. this was not very reassuring because it was one way, and that would mean that I would have to get to Dominican Republic to even use the ticket. But my mother when given this information called the US office and after another half an hour on the phone they returned this $450, TRULY AMAZING! And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

Posted by Justin Vorel at  (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)


eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.



Things are looking up!  apskip was on the ball as usual.  So we have teams spotted at the Santiago, Chile airport on April 30. 

So it looks like this:

Los Angeles to Sao Paulo

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia

Salvador da Bahia to Santiago, Chile (transit only)

Santiago, Chile to Melbourne, Australia

(somewhere else: Tasmania, Singapore, KL)

on to Siem Reap, Cambodia

Teams have been on the road for two weeks, and we're right there with them (only two days behind, only one day actually counting that the teams gained a day crossing the International Date Line)
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Post by: apskip on May 05, 2008, 09:59:51 PM
GMAN, that would be lost a day crossing the International Date Line east to west. To gain that day back, you have to cross it west to east. That looks unlikely in this race. Even if they finish in Hawaii(a good bet), they will be east of the International Date Line. The schedules I quoted to Melbourne show +2 to indicate that you are 2 days beyond the day of the late evening departure from Santiago of the LAN flight. One of those days is the lost day crossing the date line.
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
Supposed flags were seen in Melbourne @1:20pm local time on the 30th though, how long does it take to fly from Santiago to Melbourne ? (charts below)

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia (4/24 to 4/25) << where did we lose the racers for 5 days?

Salvador da Bahia to Santiago, Chile (4/30)

(charts)
Santiago, Chile
Current Time Monday, May 5, 2008 at 11:04:41 PM


Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Current Time Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 1:04:11 PM EST
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2008, 10:11:09 PM
GMAN, that would be lost a day crossing the International Date Line east to west. To gain that day back, you have to cross it west to east. That looks unlikely in this race. Even if they finish in Hawaii(a good bet), they will be east of the International Date Line. The schedules I quoted to Melbourne show +2 to indicate that you are 2 days beyond the day of the late evening departure from Santiago of the LAN flight. One of those days is the lost day crossing the date line.

Are you sure?  It seems to me that when you cross the IDL you are then in the next day.  When it is 11PM Monday in the East of the USA, it is 1PM Tuesday in Japan.  When I was on a ship going to Australia many moons ago, we skipped a Monday , but when we were returning we had two Sundays back to back with a special Sunday dinner each day (that's the Navy for you).  When you travel east to west you add a day, but traveling west to east you subtract a day.
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2008, 10:18:24 PM
Supposed flags were seen in Melbourne @1:20pm local time on the 30th though, how long does it take to fly from Santiago to Melbourne ? (charts below)

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia (4/24 to 4/25) << where did we lose the racers for 5 days?

Salvador da Bahia to Santiago, Chile (4/30)

(charts)
Santiago, Chile
Current Time Monday, May 5, 2008 at 11:04:41 PM


Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Current Time Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 1:04:11 PM EST


Something doesn't jive :duno:  When it is April 30 in Santiago Chile it is already May 1 in Melbourne, Australia.  So is our sighting in both cities correct or is the sighting in Melbourne on April 30 speculation?
Or were the flags put up early or for a test before the racers arrived on May 1.  Was that the actual date of the sighting in Santiago, or when the blogger posted.
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 10:21:53 PM


Something doesn't jive :duno:  When it is April 30 in Santiago Chile it is already May 1 in Melbourne, Australia.  So is our sighting in both cities correct or is the sighting in Melbourne on April 30 speculation?
Or were the flags put up early or for a test before the racers arrived on May 1.  Was that the actual date of the sighting in Santiago, or when the blogger posted.
He wrote that his ticket back to the states was for April 30th Gman.

eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.

eta the Melbourne post
raceguy120390 (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10202932)
Apr 30, 2008 @ 10:22 pm  
Just got off the phone with a friend of mine. Apparently - though I can't prove one way or the other because they don't have a camera and I'm stuck at uni - there's a flag on top of an office building on Elizabeth Street right now. The only likely task, if any, would be one of those 'look out the window and find a flag' deals. I'm thinking there's also a cluebox set up right now on the Rialto Towers Observation Deck, which would make sense because there's a new tower with a higher observation deck, and this gets fewer spoilerhunters like myself.

Firstly, crappy task, even if it's one I just speculated about, and secondly, evil making them visit Melbourne in the middle of a cold snap - currently it's around 1:20pm local time
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2008, 10:32:15 PM


Something doesn't jive :duno:  When it is April 30 in Santiago Chile it is already May 1 in Melbourne, Australia.  So is our sighting in both cities correct or is the sighting in Melbourne on April 30 speculation?
Or were the flags put up early or for a test before the racers arrived on May 1.  Was that the actual date of the sighting in Santiago, or when the blogger posted.
He wrote that his ticket back to the states was for April 30th Gman.

eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.

eta the Melbourne post
raceguy120390 (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3160509&view=findpost&p=10202932)
Apr 30, 2008 @ 10:22 pm  
Just got off the phone with a friend of mine. Apparently - though I can't prove one way or the other because they don't have a camera and I'm stuck at uni - there's a flag on top of an office building on Elizabeth Street right now. The only likely task, if any, would be one of those 'look out the window and find a flag' deals. I'm thinking there's also a cluebox set up right now on the Rialto Towers Observation Deck, which would make sense because there's a new tower with a higher observation deck, and this gets fewer spoilerhunters like myself.

Firstly, crappy task, even if it's one I just speculated about, and secondly, evil making them visit Melbourne in the middle of a cold snap - currently it's around 1:20pm local time

He doen't actually say when he was at the airport, perhaps he was there the day before getting his new ticket.  Then this would make sense since if the teams left on April 29, they could be seen in Melbourne on April 30
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Post by: puddin on May 05, 2008, 10:44:47 PM
Why did they have to do a task in Melbourne? even raceguy isn't so sure.

Quote
raceguy120390
 
I don't know about the building, his phone cut out at precisely the wrong moment. I've been trying to get a hold of him since I posted for more, but... yeah.

But he did tell me it was a 'gold and red flag like that show you obsess about'.

ETA: He's the sort of person who would play a trick on me like this, so there's about a 50% chance he's sitting at home laughing his frozen arse off at me right now.  



Read the Santiago blog  (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html) Gman..


 

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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 12:09:24 AM
International Date Line:

Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

source: http://geography.about.com/od/physicalgeography/a/idl.htm (This is the easiest explanation site that I have found...)

And according to the world clock page: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Melbourne is 14 hours ahead of Santiago.

But  :wohoo: another contestant!  :jumpy:
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 06, 2008, 03:30:57 AM
whole lot more photos in this blog here of various teams at airport
http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html

Quote
Was just in the Siem Reap, Cambodia airport with the next Amazing Race people. When I asked one of the crew, he hesitated and told me it was a documentary. Then I looked around and saw 12 crew members, 7 cameras and 9 boom mikes. Then two of the contestants who had overheard me talking about going to Nepal earlier, snuck away from everyone to ask me if I was going to India.


And they were headed from Cambodia to Thailand to India.


But they were down to 6 teams




another commenter on the site said
Quote
Yes ! they are definitely contestants from the Amazing Race Show. We were at Tonle Sap Lake and saw route markers (Flags in red and yellow) on 6 boats at the pier. There were camera crew but we did not see the contestants. Very exciting !
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 06, 2008, 04:31:01 AM
6 teams and there are is female team great!!

The Blogger didn't sound very complimentary about the girls' perceived IQ...they didn't seem to understand that Nepal (where he was going) was not the same as India (where they are going), and then supposedly they went the wrong way at the airport (:;)

I want a super intelligent, super fit female team to show those alpha males how it's done
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 05:18:40 AM
Oh just WOW! Mrs Shrek!!

Excellent find! :hearts:

Darn and I have to leave for work.... :'(
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Post by: Neobie on May 06, 2008, 07:47:35 AM
We'll need at least 5 legs by the conclusion of Cambodia. So far we only have two for sure? (Salvador & Siem Reap)

(AYL map moved further down the thread...)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 07:59:51 AM
And Neobie's AYL is back!!  :hearts:
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Post by: apskip on May 06, 2008, 08:12:14 AM
Supposed flags were seen in Melbourne @1:20pm local time on the 30th though, how long does it take to fly from Santiago to Melbourne ? (charts below)

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia (4/24 to 4/25) << where did we lose the racers for 5 days?

Salvador da Bahia to Santiago, Chile (4/30)

(charts)
Santiago, Chile
Current Time Monday, May 5, 2008 at 11:04:41 PM


Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Current Time Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 1:04:11 PM EST


Something doesn't jive :duno:  When it is April 30 in Santiago Chile it is already May 1 in Melbourne, Australia.  So is our sighting in both cities correct or is the sighting in Melbourne on April 30 speculation?
Or were the flags put up early or for a test before the racers arrived on May 1.  Was that the actual date of the sighting in Santiago, or when the blogger posted.

GMAN, you have to use the conventional time systems to get this right. The flights that AR13 teams took left Santiago at 2245 on April 28. they cross the International Date Line in flight and since it was more than 1 hour into the flight it is April 30. The individual time zones are flowing with the plane, so a 13 hour 10 minute flight consumes 8 hours of time difference and arrives at 355am in Auckland(which is hours ahead of Melbourne). Then there is a transfer to QF26 departing Auckland 0615, a 4 hour flight losing another 2 hours of time difference from crossing time zones, and arriving Melbourne at 0815. The alternate flight, which it is highly likely was actually used for debunching some of the teams, was NZ7 0740 0930. Note that this has teams arriving correctly on April 30.
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 09:42:41 AM
Good job Mrs Shrek & Neobie!!  :jumpy:  :yess:

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_IMG_3269.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/IMG_3269.jpg)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_IMG_3272.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/IMG_3272.jpg)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_IMG_3276.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/IMG_3276.jpg)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_IMG_3277.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/IMG_3277.jpg)

Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Amazing Race
Was just in the Siem Reap, Cambodia airport with the next Amazing Race people. When I asked one of the crew, he hesitated and told me it was a documentary. Then I looked around and saw 12 crew members, 7 cameras and 9 boom mikes. Then two of the contestants who had overheard me talking about going to Nepal earlier, snuck away from everyone to ask me if I was going to India. Here's the transcript of that conversation:

Girls: Hey
Me: Hey
Girls: Um, can you do us a favor? So you're going to India?
Me: No, actually Nepal.
Girls: Oh. Is that near India?

At this point I knew immediately that they were, in fact, not going to win this show.

Me: Uhhhhh, I guess you could say that. They're neighbors so yeah. Are you with that "documentary" that's really called "Amazing Race"?
Girls; We're not really supposed to talk about it. It's just a travel show.
Me: Right. Anyway, what can I do for you?
Girls: Well, we need to find something in India and thought you might be able to help since you were going near there.
Me: Okkkkkkkkk. But I'm actually going to Nepal.

Undeterred, they pressed on...

Girls: Well, we're looking for something really obscure in Delhi.

At this point I gave up and decided to just try to find out more about the show. Although I should note the desperation of continuing to ask me about Delhi when I was going to an entirely different country is really funny. But I did suggest couchsurfing as a means to find someone in Delhi and ask them a question or post on a message board there. I also offered to contact my old buddy Cal who's in India but they have no email access. Besides that, they have limited internet access, again, no email, no facebook (don't know why that was volunteered) and they get clues to go find stuff like on the show. And they were headed from Cambodia to Thailand to India. They're only on the trip for a month. EVERYTHING points to the Amazing Race.

Anyway, sat in front of all of them on the plane where they were filmed almost the entire time and took pictures on the bus and in the Bangkok airport that I'll post. They're kinda blurry but I'll blame that on bad lighting and me trying to chase them to get a picture. There's one picture of people on an escalator. One guy in the yellow headband and jew-fro who's prominently displayed in the picture is a contestant with a HUGE star of david around his neck. Can't wait till that sadly gets airbrushed out. Also, the girls I was talking to went the wrong way so that's how I got so many pictures of them. But they were down to 6 teams so I guess they made it that far. Wait, I can use this information to bet on this, can't I?

Enjoy the pics.

Posted by JSF at 12:05 AM   
1 comments:
Donut Diary said...
Yes ! they are definitely contestants from the Amazing Race Show. We were at Tonle Sap Lake and saw route markers (Flags in red and yellow) on 6 boats at the pier. There were camera crew but we did not see the contestants. Very exciting !

May 6, 2008 12:55 AM 
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
Phil sighting!! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24168047@N03/2470380501/sizes/o/)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2470380501_cc8cccaa59.jpg)
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Post by: patlini on May 06, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
And i recognize red bandana man from the extra video's from last seasons.

not a pit stop though no mat.
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2008, 10:52:19 AM
Supposed flags were seen in Melbourne @1:20pm local time on the 30th though, how long does it take to fly from Santiago to Melbourne ? (charts below)

Sao Paulo to Salvador da Bahia (4/24 to 4/25) << where did we lose the racers for 5 days?

Salvador da Bahia to Santiago, Chile (4/30)

(charts)
Santiago, Chile
Current Time Monday, May 5, 2008 at 11:04:41 PM


Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Current Time Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 1:04:11 PM EST


Something doesn't jive :duno:  When it is April 30 in Santiago Chile it is already May 1 in Melbourne, Australia.  So is our sighting in both cities correct or is the sighting in Melbourne on April 30 speculation?
Or were the flags put up early or for a test before the racers arrived on May 1.  Was that the actual date of the sighting in Santiago, or when the blogger posted.

GMAN, you have to use the conventional time systems to get this right. The flights that AR13 teams took left Santiago at 2245 on April 28. they cross the International Date Line in flight and since it was more than 1 hour into the flight it is April 30. The individual time zones are flowing with the plane, so a 13 hour 10 minute flight consumes 8 hours of time difference and arrives at 355am in Auckland(which is hours ahead of Melbourne). Then there is a transfer to QF26 departing Auckland 0615, a 4 hour flight losing another 2 hours of time difference from crossing time zones, and arriving Melbourne at 0815. The alternate flight, which it is highly likely was actually used for debunching some of the teams, was NZ7 0740 0930. Note that this has teams arriving correctly on April 30.

So, if you are right about the flights then the crews were leaving Santiago, Chile on April 28, not April 30.  So the blogger actually was at the airport two days before his flight which left for Oklahoma on April 30.  Now we have accounted for most of the missing time in Brazil.  

April 22      Leave Los Angeles                               11 Teams Leave
April 23      Sao Paulo, Brazil                                   10 Teams Leave
April 24      Salvador da Bahia, Brazil                       9 Teams Leave 
April 25
April 26       Somewhere                                           8 Teams Leave (????) 
April 27
April 28      Somewhere                                            7 Teams Leave
April 29    
April 30      Santiago, Chile                                       7 Teams Leave
May 1       Lost on the IDL                               
May 2         New Zealand                                          6 Teams Leave
May 3        Siem Reap, Cambodia                         
May 4                                                     (Could it be our first Non-elimination????)
May 5
May 6        Siem Reap, Cambodia                             6 Teams Leave
May 7        New Delhi, India (via Bangkok, Thailand)
So at the moment the teams are hunting for some obscure object in the Capital of India
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Post by: Boingo on May 06, 2008, 11:20:53 AM
 :'(  TAR CURSE CONTINUES!!!
Disaster strikes local residents after TAR racers pass through their country.   (:;)    :angel:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN0646185520080506

Spooky, ain't it   :groan:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 11:21:56 AM
The blogger says he was in Santiago 4/30, I believe he was in Santiago 4/30. :pull

Melbourne is serious spec and is no way even remotely confirmed.

And when I checked IDL I found

International Date Line:


Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

So unless I am going more ditzy than usual then that timeline unfortunately makes no sense at all to me....
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
:'(  TAR CURSE CONTINUES!!!
Disaster strikes local residents after TAR racers pass through their country.   (:;)    :angel:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN0646185520080506

Spooky, ain't it   :groan:
peach and I were thinking the same thing Boingo  :ascared

The blogger says he was in Santiago 4/30, I believe he was in Santiago 4/30. :pull

Melbourne is serious spec and is no way even remotely confirmed.

And when I checked IDL I found

International Date Line:


Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

So unless I am going more ditzy than usual then that timeline unfortunately makes no sense at all to me....
I agree peachs! All you have to do is read his blogs, lots of evidence there as a matter of fact on April 28th all he blogged were photos, nothing else.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 12:31:09 PM
All of our valued bloggers are being/or have already been contacted personally, so let's hope we get some more definitive info soon! Waiting (im) patiently... :lol:
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Post by: patlini on May 06, 2008, 12:42:43 PM
Peach if we could find out where or what they were looking for in Dehli i can start using the family connection over there  :js:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 06, 2008, 12:46:21 PM
Great! working on it! ;)
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Post by: mez on May 06, 2008, 03:21:22 PM
Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 03:29:27 PM
Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!

For some reason I believe it mez. Welcome to the forum :welcome:
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Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2008, 03:31:31 PM
Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!

For some reason I believe it mez. Welcome to the forum :welcome:

me2 puddin, i have some1 looking into it.
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Post by: north09 on May 06, 2008, 03:38:06 PM
 :welcome: Yeah, I can see Phil heading home to NZ. I can't recall them going there before, so it's one of our new locations!
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
 Pretty darn remote from what I can tell :yess:
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Post by: mez on May 06, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
I've never been there but it's not remote at all. It's a popular holiday destination and usually has very good weather. We've had a long summer this year (until last week) and I think the temperature up there's still in the low 20s (celsius). It's known for surfing and water activities and apparently you can run up the Mount, though a bit steep.
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
 :lol: Well its remote to me mez, I never heard of it and had to google it  :-[ , its gorgeous!!
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Post by: Kogs on May 06, 2008, 03:54:43 PM
I've never been there but it's not remote at all. It's a popular holiday destination and usually has very good weather. We've had a long summer this year (until last week) and I think the temperature up there's still in the low 20s (celsius). It's known for surfing and water activities and apparently you can run up the Mount, though a bit steep.

i remeber there being a travel channel show phil hosted where he was in that area. it really wouldnt suprise me if they went there
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Post by: mez on May 06, 2008, 05:21:42 PM
Fair enough puddin, I can't say places in other countries mean much to me either unless I've been there!
The only concern I have about this is that it was school holidays here 19-27 April so it would have been very busy there.
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Post by: apskip on May 06, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
The blogger says he was in Santiago 4/30, I believe he was in Santiago 4/30. :pull

Melbourne is serious spec and is no way even remotely confirmed.

And when I checked IDL I found

International Date Line:


Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

So unless I am going more ditzy than usual then that timeline unfortunately makes no sense at all to me....

I apparently have written using words that confuse. To me "losing a day" going east to west means that you literally advance the calendar one day because that day is gone forever(or at least untiol you cross the Date Line west to east). That is the equivalent of "adding a day" in other people's syntax.
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
Monday, May 5, 2008
My flight out of Santiago-

 
Sometimes people make foolish mistakes that have small consequences and other mistakes can be quite costly, I made one of the costly ones last week. I booked a ticket from Santiago to Oklahoma, the ticket was $450, all the other flights were around a thousand dollars, so of course I booked the cheaper flight, when I showed up to the airport in Santiago I went to check in and the flight was not on the board, and the counter did not upon for 8 hours, so I asked a service personal and she said that she had never heard of the flight number. So I went to the airlines office and then I found out that I had booked a flight from Santiago Dominican Republic and not Santiago Chile, the lady at the desk asked me how I was planning in getting to the Dominican Republic to take this flight, and at this moment I felt like the biggest idiot in the world, some world traveller I have become. So I was blessed when the ticket sales office opened there was a very wonderful employee who worked for almost 30 minutes checking on different flights for me, actually the ticket cost was at that time $2700 to fly to Oklahoma, but my newest friend behind the counter, helped me find a flight and also came up with a special fare I think just for me, and so for $1000 I had a ticket back to Oklahoma. But he told me that I lost the $450 on my other ticket, but he kindly told me that I could most likely get a travel voucher to fly one way from the Dominican Republic to any destination. this was not very reassuring because it was one way, and that would mean that I would have to get to Dominican Republic to even use the ticket. But my mother when given this information called the US office and after another half an hour on the phone they returned this $450, TRULY AMAZING! And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

Posted by Justin Vorel at  (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)


eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.




peach will fill you all in later with more details but, with info that she has gathered from Justin, we can safely say that Justin/Blogger was indeed in the Santiago Airport on April 30th and it was the evening when he saw the teams come through. I guess we can rule out the Melbourne sighting on April 30th as rumor or hearsay now.
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
Heres the blog  (http://kilometre22.blogspot.com/2008/05/cambotja-pas-de-temples.html) that goes with Phils picture, I can't find the correct translation  :funny: HELP!!

Per finish up the dia hem take the relay than sun at the mettle principal d’Angkor Wat i quina he happens statue the nostra surprise than ens hem trobat at the frontman of the nostre program preferable of the tele ( Amazon Race ). Resulta than leak-proof preparing the pròxima season of the program than tractor envelope a gimcana pel voltage of the món i the guanyador se’n du a reward d’un militia than dolars! He happens statue molt curia the trobada i hem pogut parlar a mica amb the frontman i l’equip of the program ( the she checks people molt ravishing i simpàtica ). A dia amb a final unexpected!!!!
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 06, 2008, 07:32:37 PM
Sometimes, you can run some text through a stochastic (I had to look that up  :-[) language guesser (http://www.xrce.xerox.com/competencies/content-analysis/tools/guesser) from Xerox. In this case, it turned out to be Catalan. According to this page (http://traductor.gencat.net/jsp/go2text.jsp?locale=en):
Quote
To finish the day we have seen the sunset in the main temple of Angkor Wat and which it has been our surprise that we have found ourselves to the presenter of our favorite program of the TV (Amazing Race). It results that they are preparing the next season of the program from deal about a gymkhana of the world and the winner being carried by that going round a prize of a million dolars! Has been very curious the encounter and we have been able to speak a little with the presenter and the equipment of the program (the very charming and nice people truth). A day with an unexpected end!!!!
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 07:47:05 PM
You know all the tricks Slowhatch  :yess: :ty

peach can't get to her PC right now and we were talking about the picture and is the properties are right, why is Phil there so late? Have the teams come and gone? What is this place exactly? Just something to look for in free time :angel: .

Date and Time (Original): 2008:05:04 18:27:04

Astronomy for May 4, 2008:
  Rise: Set:
Actual Time: 5:42 AM ICT 6:20 PM ICT
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Post by: Neobie on May 06, 2008, 08:01:33 PM
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1053380-Vendors_inside_Angkor_Wat-Angkor_Wat.jpg)

This from inside Angkor Wat. Or did we already know that? (The colour of the awnings are different, but you know what I mean...)

Phil might be using the 12-hour Pit Stop period to film the "stand-ups" for the Angkor Wat Roadblock...
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 08:04:29 PM


This from inside Angkor Wat. Or did we already know that?
No, I didn't know and thats what I was just looking for Neobie  :-[ :neener: ...you rock!  :jam:
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2008, 09:46:04 PM
The blogger says he was in Santiago 4/30, I believe he was in Santiago 4/30. :pull

Melbourne is serious spec and is no way even remotely confirmed.

And when I checked IDL I found

International Date Line:


Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

So unless I am going more ditzy than usual then that timeline unfortunately makes no sense at all to me....

I apparently have written using words that confuse. To me "losing a day" going east to west means that you literally advance the calendar one day because that day is gone forever(or at least untiol you cross the Date Line west to east). That is the equivalent of "adding a day" in other people's syntax.

We're all on the same page, apskip, just a matter of semantics.
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2008, 09:48:17 PM
:welcome: Yeah, I can see Phil heading home to NZ. I can't recall them going there before, so it's one of our new locations!

Not new; teams went to NZ in TAR5.
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Post by: apskip on May 06, 2008, 10:21:27 PM
Monday, May 5, 2008
My flight out of Santiago-

 
Sometimes people make foolish mistakes that have small consequences and other mistakes can be quite costly, I made one of the costly ones last week. I booked a ticket from Santiago to Oklahoma, the ticket was $450, all the other flights were around a thousand dollars, so of course I booked the cheaper flight, when I showed up to the airport in Santiago I went to check in and the flight was not on the board, and the counter did not upon for 8 hours, so I asked a service personal and she said that she had never heard of the flight number. So I went to the airlines office and then I found out that I had booked a flight from Santiago Dominican Republic and not Santiago Chile, the lady at the desk asked me how I was planning in getting to the Dominican Republic to take this flight, and at this moment I felt like the biggest idiot in the world, some world traveller I have become. So I was blessed when the ticket sales office opened there was a very wonderful employee who worked for almost 30 minutes checking on different flights for me, actually the ticket cost was at that time $2700 to fly to Oklahoma, but my newest friend behind the counter, helped me find a flight and also came up with a special fare I think just for me, and so for $1000 I had a ticket back to Oklahoma. But he told me that I lost the $450 on my other ticket, but he kindly told me that I could most likely get a travel voucher to fly one way from the Dominican Republic to any destination. this was not very reassuring because it was one way, and that would mean that I would have to get to Dominican Republic to even use the ticket. But my mother when given this information called the US office and after another half an hour on the phone they returned this $450, TRULY AMAZING! And as a special bonus the several teams from the Amazing Race through the airport while I was there.

Posted by Justin Vorel at  (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-flight-out-of-santiago.html)


eta... (http://thenomadlife.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-many-words.html)and I am afraid that I will have little time to write all these stories out. I have a ticket back to the States on April 30th. I will be flying out of Santiago, Chile.




peach will fill you all in later with more details but, with info that she has gathered from Justin, we can safely say that Justin/Blogger was indeed in the Santiago Airport on April 30th and it was the evening when he saw the teams come through. I guess we can rule out the Melbourne sighting on April 30th as rumor or hearsay now.

I do not agree because this does not compute. If teams left Santiago on April 30, they cannot arrive in Auckland until May 2. They have to be in Siem Reap that evening in order to be at Angkor Wat the following morning. There is no possibility of any leg in New Zealand or Australia. In order to have a leg in New Zealand or Australia there must be at least one day in either country. Teams have to leave Santiago no later than April 29 and I have not altered my view that they really did leave on April 28.
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Post by: puddin on May 06, 2008, 11:25:20 PM

I do not agree because this does not compute. If teams left Santiago on April 30, they cannot arrive in Auckland until May 2. They have to be in Siem Reap that evening in order to be at Angkor Wat the following morning. There is no possibility of any leg in New Zealand or Australia. In order to have a leg in New Zealand or Australia there must be at least one day in either country. Teams have to leave Santiago no later than April 29 and I have not altered my view that they really did leave on April 28.



Teams did leave the 30th..

 
Why must the teams go to Australia or New Zealand? Whats not to believe apskips? Shall we ask to see the bloggers ticket? Sorry we can't twist the schedule to make it make sense to you, it is what it is, in black and white :spy:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
Amen that.  Yeah Peach!

Any shadows yet?   :waves:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 06, 2008, 11:56:51 PM
I know this comes late guys but I was at school, I have recieved info about TAR in my home town of 15 years TAURANGA, however I believe it is only from Our Local Amazing Race as they were there last month and were at Mount Maunganui so I dont think is right, but you never know
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 06, 2008, 11:57:37 PM

Any shadows yet?   :waves:

there is the bloke in blue? http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg300350.html#msg300350
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Post by: puddin on May 07, 2008, 12:00:38 AM
Flickr!! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameskhoo/2472602864/) credits to flickrs, James Khoo's

' Amazing Race Show ' route markers on 6 boats . Only 6 teams left competing in Siem Reap

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7805/indexax1.th.jpg) (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexax1.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 07, 2008, 12:11:25 AM
More from Jason (http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race-2.html) (he's loving his new celebrity status) :lol:

Just a quick note that I seem to have stumbled upon an Amazing Race internet fan club with my recent post and for the next 72 hours (or until someone else posts pics or gives updates on their whereabouts), I declare myself an internet celebrity. In the meantime, my pics and inside info are seemingly all the rage right now. I'm bigger than Gawker. It's pretty funny though. Actually the funny thing is that even though I'm a tv junkie (for example, I haven't missed an episode of Lost or Jericho or Friday Night Lights since I've been out here, and even, shamefully, I can't believe I'm admitting this, am now caught up on Gossip Girl. I only watch it to see where they film in Manhattan. Anyone buy that?), I've never watched a single episode of Amazing Race before. So yeah, I guess I'll be adding this upcoming season to my list.

And in case you're wondering I have no idea who posted that comment. I tend to forget that this blog is open to the public and not just my mother and 4 friends. I'm actually curious how my writing will translate to people who don't know me especially since sarcastic self-depracation is tough to pull off in writing. On a similar note, I kind of feel a little bad about reporting my conversation with the racers because they look like idiots but I've decided not to say which ones they were and anyway, that's pretty much what happened so I'll leave it up. They also went the wrong way when in the airport. I mentioned but didn't explain that earlier but they actually passed through customs when everyone else went directly to the international terminal. I felt terrible for them because the cameras were on them the whole time as they stood in baggage claim trying to figure out what to do to get to the international departures and the cameraman and sound guy just stand there staring at them without saying a word obviously. It's very surreal.

Anyway I've decided that in light of this recent turn of events I will add a "hit counter" to indulge my vanity-side and see how may people this attracts and for the next 72 hours I will use my new found fame to raise awareness for many noble causes. After I go back to sleep.

Oh, here are the rest of this pics in case Amazing Race fans are interested (See, I'm expanding my audience).
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 07, 2008, 12:41:15 AM
Thanks Puddin and Peach (and thanks to Jason and the rest of our "irregulars"  :js:). Here's a map (http://www.canbypublications.com/maps/srtonlesapmap.htm) for Peach. They most likely got their boats at Chong Khneas. It's a working fishing village, not too pretty; the TAR boats look like the best of the lot.
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Post by: Neobie on May 07, 2008, 12:54:00 AM
The report from the Tonle Sap boats mentioned a six-hour journey from Battambang, which departs at 7am. Add six hours, and we can estimate the sighting to be at roughly 1pm?

The pier on the Tonle Sap is a 45-min tuk-tuk ride from Siem Reap city centre (based purely on personal experience), and more than an hour from the airport. It's gonna be at least an am arrival in Siem Reap.
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Post by: nikita on May 07, 2008, 04:48:06 AM
Oh man! I am going to die! I just got back from Siem Reap last night.  :pull
I AM BUMMED.  :'( :'( :'(  Our guide did tell us there was a film crew in the Tonle Sap but didn't give any more info.
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Post by: apskip on May 07, 2008, 08:43:01 AM

I do not agree because this does not compute. If teams left Santiago on April 30, they cannot arrive in Auckland until May 2. They have to be in Siem Reap that evening in order to be at Angkor Wat the following morning. There is no possibility of any leg in New Zealand or Australia. In order to have a leg in New Zealand or Australia there must be at least one day in either country. Teams have to leave Santiago no later than April 29 and I have not altered my view that they really did leave on April 28.



Teams did leave the 30th..

 
Why must the teams go to Australia or New Zealand? Whats not to believe apskips? Shall we ask to see the bloggers ticket? Sorry we can't twist the schedule to make it make sense to you, it is what it is, in black and white :spy:

The departure date for the blogger is not necessarily identical to the departure date fo the Amazing Race teams. Is there other evidence to support the April 30 departure date? Flights from somewhere in South America to Santiago to Auckland to Bangkok to Siem Reap on planes for about 2 full days are possible, but that's a bit much continous travel even for Amazing Racers.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 07, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
Apskip--the blogger Justin SAW the teams at the airport leaving Santiago on 4/30.  I am willing to vouch that he is sincere and very honest about what he saw.  I believe that what he saw were our teams. 

So if we believe that date, I think now we have to very sadly perhaps give up Australia/NZ as task locations instead if time does not permit.

The Melbourne sighting was NOT reliable.

Kiwi has said that the NZ radio report most likely refers to a local TAR race which was there.

So if the data doesn't fit, and I absolutely believe you about time and dates, we have to look instead at other possibilities, IMO, and maybe let go of trying to squeeze in Australia/NZ instead. Perhaps they went another route entirely?

How else could they get from Santiago to Cambodia? Must they change in Australia at all? What other routes are possible? 

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Flights from somewhere in South America to Santiago to Auckland to Bangkok to Siem Reap on planes for about 2 full days are possible, but that's a bit much continous travel even for Amazing Racers.

I agree with this--so what happens if we take Auckland and Bangkok out of the mix? How ELSE can we get them there?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 07, 2008, 09:32:24 AM
okay--I just saw this excellent post by Neobie!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15365.msg300510.html#msg300510

So maybe we CAN squeeze in one leg in NZ?? ??? I would LOVE that!

Remember that Justin thought that the teams left Santiago not all together though...and perhaps by 7-ish...
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Post by: apskip on May 07, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
Peach, I don't care what Justin thought. The only trans-Pacific nonstop flights that I know of are LAN801 departing at 2245 from Santiago and AR1182 departing at 2359 from Buenos Aires. I guess it's possible that teams went from SCL to EZE, but then they left even later to AKL, which defeats your purpose.
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Post by: puddin on May 07, 2008, 01:19:33 PM
Not only did Justin see teams he said they were exhausted and dirty, isn't that right peach? It might indicate something happened prior to Santiago or near?
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Post by: apskip on May 07, 2008, 01:22:25 PM
Peach, I don't care what Justin thought. The only trans-Pacific nonstop flights that I know of are LAN801 departing at 2245 from Santiago and AR1182 departing at 2359 from Buenos Aires. I guess it's possible that teams went from SCL to EZE, but then they left even later to AKL, which defeats your purpose.


he saw the teams, its not "what he thought"

Kogs, read it again. The point of my note is an argument against "7ish".
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Post by: TexasLady on May 07, 2008, 02:43:14 PM
Re the boats, this was posted as a comment to Jason:

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Donut Diary said...

    Yes ! they are definitely contestants from the Amazing Race Show. We were at Tonle Sap Lake and saw route markers (Flags in red and yellow) on 6 boats at the pier. There were camera crew but we did not see the contestants. Very exciting !
    May 6, 2008 12:55 AM

http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html
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Post by: puddin on May 07, 2008, 02:44:11 PM
amazing race, angkor wat  (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g297390-i9163-k1948819-Amazing_race_angkor_wat-Siem_Reap.html)   :lol:

boberino22

 Posted on: 6:01 am, yesterday  Save
Did anyone else see them filming for the amazing race at angkor wat on the 4th? I'm not sure what version it is but I saw the little stand where they put the next clue on the west side of the temple. (opposite the main entrance?) I opened it up, thinking it was some brochure and I saw it said "Amazing Race" before one of the production guys yelled at me.
 Anyone know which version of the amazing race it is??






 
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Post by: randomnzer on May 07, 2008, 03:05:30 PM
Phil has a holiday home in Coromandel, which is very near the Tauranga/Bay of Plenty region.

They may have gone to the Waihi Goldmine, which is a popular tourist attraction in that area.
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on May 07, 2008, 03:23:19 PM
The blogger says he was in Santiago 4/30, I believe he was in Santiago 4/30. :pull

Melbourne is serious spec and is no way even remotely confirmed.

And when I checked IDL I found

International Date Line:


Quote
Cross the line from the east to the west and a day is added. Cross from west to the east and a day is subtracted.

So unless I am going more ditzy than usual then that timeline unfortunately makes no sense at all to me....

I apparently have written using words that confuse. To me "losing a day" going east to west means that you literally advance the calendar one day because that day is gone forever(or at least untiol you cross the Date Line west to east). That is the equivalent of "adding a day" in other people's syntax.
Of course, you and I can go back into our time zone debate we had in the Amazing Race Asia thread, but I get what you're saying about losing a day. Actually, "losing a day" in the vernacular usually talks about crossing the Date Line from the US to Asia.
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on May 07, 2008, 03:30:34 PM
And i recognize red bandana man from the extra video's from last seasons.
He was racing with Phil on the stones in Taipei.
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Post by: patlini on May 07, 2008, 03:35:46 PM
And i recognize red bandana man from the extra video's from last seasons.
He was racing with Phil on the stones in Taipei.

yep and at Shannon airport

i think he cheated on the stones didn't he
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Post by: apskip on May 07, 2008, 05:08:42 PM
Peach, I don't care what Justin thought. The only trans-Pacific nonstop flights that I know of are LAN801 departing at 2245 from Santiago and AR1182 departing at 2359 from Buenos Aires. I guess it's possible that teams went from SCL to EZE, but then they left even later to AKL, which defeats your purpose.


he saw the teams, its not "what he thought"

Kogs, read it again. The point of my note is an argument against "7ish".

apskip i read it, and i believe him over you. im sorry you cant accept that your theory is wrong

Kogs, quote the flight information for a "7ish" departure if you want to support your case with evidence rather than just rhetoric.What are the flights at that time?
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Post by: puddin on May 07, 2008, 05:55:52 PM
Back on topic please, we have a speculation thread!!
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Post by: nikita on May 08, 2008, 12:09:39 AM
Apskip--the blogger Justin SAW the teams at the airport leaving Santiago on 4/30.  I am willing to vouch that he is sincere and very honest about what he saw.  I believe that what he saw were our teams. 

So if we believe that date, I think now we have to very sadly perhaps give up Australia/NZ as task locations instead if time does not permit.

The Melbourne sighting was NOT reliable.

Kiwi has said that the NZ radio report most likely refers to a local TAR race which was there.

So if the data doesn't fit, and I absolutely believe you about time and dates, we have to look instead at other possibilities, IMO, and maybe let go of trying to squeeze in Australia/NZ instead. Perhaps they went another route entirely?

How else could they get from Santiago to Cambodia? Must they change in Australia at all? What other routes are possible? 

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Flights from somewhere in South America to Santiago to Auckland to Bangkok to Siem Reap on planes for about 2 full days are possible, but that's a bit much continous travel even for Amazing Racers.

I agree with this--so what happens if we take Auckland and Bangkok out of the mix? How ELSE can we get them there?



There are other routes to Siem Reap other than Bangkok. Hong Kong, Singapore, Ho Chi Minh, and Kuala Lumpur have direct or connecting flights to Siem Reap. My brother and I went  there back in 2003 via Ho Chi Minh.
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Post by: TaRBoY on May 08, 2008, 04:18:41 AM
Hi RFF! I have some spoilers for yah..  :waves:

My co-forummer on another site (http://entermyworld.heavenforum.com/spoilers-corner-f1/tar-13-spoilers-t211.htm) found this blog.
Credits to JonLover


http://aravenazavaleta.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race-in-dubai.html


Thursday, May 8, 2008
Amazing Race in Dubai

Oh my goodness. I think I've just heard the most frustrating news in my life.

I am a big fan of reality shows especially the Amazing Race. Though I only watched few seasons, I can say the show is great.

Hindi ko inaasahan ang aking narinig kagabi, as in kagabi talaga. My high school friend who is also in Dubai paid me a visit in my flat. So kailangan ko talaga mag-order ng tequila ng palihim since bawal sa Arab countries.

While we were having shots of tequila, medyo tipsy na at ala-una na yata ng umaga (eh, may pasok pa kami kinabukasan) naalala niya na hilig ko manood nga ng Amazing Race.

Then he began telling a story he heard from his friends who are working as ground stewards sa Dubai International Airport 2. My God.....I have been dreaming na makita ko rin sila while filming at dumating na nga sila sa area namin eh hindi ko pa rin sila nakita. So sabi ko that is the most frustrating news I've heard that day.

Sana, nakita ko mga contestants ng Amazing Race. So I eagerly asked and grilled him.

May nakita raw ang friend niya na mga camera crew, may hawak ng camera at saka malaking mikropono, tapos may mga dalang malalaking back packs. May hinahabol daw silang mga grupo na parang nag-uunahan din. Akala niya daw kasi may gulo o di kaya shooting ng isang international movie pero nang magtanong siya sa mga kasamahan niya sa loob ng Duty Free, nalaman niya na mga members daw ng isang Travel and Documentary show. Pero suspetsa nila ay contestants sila ng Amazing Race dahil bakit daw sila nag-uunahan pagkalabas ng eroplano papuntang Customs.

Waaaaa, sabi ko, bakit hindi ako ang nakakita sa kanila. Definitely nakipag-unahan din ako sa kanila makunan lang sila ng litrato. At least kapag maipalabas na sa TV masasabi ko na "I was there" "I was there". LOL

Well, that is life. Kung ano yung gusto mo ay hindi mo nakikita. Hehehe. Sayang, that is a sighting din ng mga contestants for Amazing Race and I believe it is the Season 13.

Well, sabi ko nga kailangan ko makausap iyong kaibigan niyang iyon.

Oh, kung sino pa ang addict sa show,s iya pa ang hindi nakakita.

Sigh. Sigh



I'll try to translate it for you guys later because it is written in Tagalog.
The sighting is in Dubai. :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 05:10:58 AM
Yippee! THANK YOU!!  :jam:

Dubai!!

See if you can get date, time of day, and descriptions of the teams for us, okay??
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 05:20:52 AM
and just for completeness sake....as we suspected, Melbourne was apparently a ruse:

from TWoP (raceguy):

Quote
So I convinced RaceExBoyfriendRyan to take me to the building he says the flag
was on. He took me to some random coffee shop the next street over from
Elizabeth Street. Which as you'll notice from above, is not the office tower he
said it was. Apparently this was all some ruse to try and get back together with
me. (And I'm not going to get back together with that lying asshole. He should
know better than to fuck with my TAR obsession.)
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Post by: Kogs on May 08, 2008, 05:23:25 AM
and just for completeness sake....as we suspected, Melbourne was apparently a ruse:

from TWoP (raceguy):

Quote
So I convinced RaceExBoyfriendRyan to take me to the building he says the flag
was on. He took me to some random coffee shop the next street over from
Elizabeth Street. Which as you'll notice from above, is not the office tower he
said it was. Apparently this was all some ruse to try and get back together with
me. (And I'm not going to get back together with that lying asshole. He should
know better than to fuck with my TAR obsession.)

figured it was a hoax
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Post by: sayurkangkung on May 08, 2008, 05:25:36 AM
Hello i just wanna say im a newbie here, but what's that tagalog mean?
Is that saying that TAR 13 will go to Dubai?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2008, 05:52:01 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, sayurkangkung!

And  tagalog is a Filipino language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language), and we hope to know more as soon as some of our posters from the Philippines can help w/ a translation!
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Post by: yikes on May 08, 2008, 07:59:58 AM
So now they're starting SOUTH then heading WEST?!  Man this is going to make TAR10 look like a walk in the park.

Not thrilled with going to India (again) but yay for New Zealand.

:sucks
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Post by: chris_oclc on May 08, 2008, 08:15:51 AM
hey guys, im chris im a filipino & i can translate the passage there for all of u,

hope u dont mind TaRBoy, me doing this..

hope it helps.. (btw, ive been monitoring this spoilers so im thrilled with this)

here it goes:

Paragraph 3: I didnt expect the news that i heard last night. My high school friend who is also in Dubai paid me a visit in my flat. So i really need to order tequilla since its not allowed in arab countries

Paragraph 4: While we were having shots of tequila, im a li'l tipsy and its one in the morning already (eh, we still have work/school?? tomorrow)

Paragraph 5: Then he began telling a story he heard from his friends who are working as ground stewards sa Dubai International Airport 2. My God.....I have been hoping to see them too while filming and they did arrive at our area and i still didnt see them. So i said that is the most frustrating news I've heard that day

Paragraph 6: I wished i have seen the contestants of the Amazing Race too. So I eagerly asked and grilled him.

Paragraph 7: My friend saw a camera crew, they were holding a camera and a big microphone and they have big backpacks as well. They were chasing a group that seems to be chasing another group as well. he thought there were some trouble or an international movie shooting so he asked his friend in duty free, he learned that it were members of a travel and documentary show. But they suspect that it were tema from AR because they were rushing through customs

Paragraph 8: Waaaaa, i cried, why didnt i see them too. Definitely i would be first to take photos of them as well. At least it it were shown on tv i could say, iwas there, i was there too". LOL

Well, that is life. What you want to see is the thing you miss seeing. Hehehe. What a disapointment, that is also a sighting for amazing race contestants and I believe it is the Season 13.

Well, i siad i really need to speak to his friend who seen it

Oh,the person who's not an AR addict was the one to witness it.

Sigh. Sigh

Hope that helps.. as u see there's no contestants description but at least there are sightings! :yess: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
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Post by: patlini on May 08, 2008, 08:35:20 AM
My brother-in-law lives in Dubai let me check in with him...
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Post by: Neobie on May 08, 2008, 08:55:17 AM
Thanks TaRBoY and chris_oclc!

Wow, they must really have sped through India!

They arrive in Delhi earliest Tuesday evening, and they're spotted in Dubai in time for a Wednesday night drinking session? If this is legit (I have my reservations) this has to be another Indian TBC! (A non-stop flight takes slightly under 2 hours taking into account time-zone differences.)

Oh, BTW, Terminal 2 narrows it down to Air India. Many flights a day, mostly connecting through Mumbai.

(AYL map moved downthread...)
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Post by: Sharinelle on May 08, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
I am new here. I have a regular reader of this site but when I read the translation of chris, (no offense chris), I decided to register since I think the translation is not accurate. There are use of wrong English words that gave different meaning to the original text. I will try to ask someone translate it bette.
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Post by: apskip on May 08, 2008, 09:43:54 AM
Neobie, the quickest flight combination between Delhi and Dubai(see Tiimetables and Flight Information thread) is 6.5 hours. There is a 1.5 hour time diffference between the two (India is strange and on the half-hour). The flights take an "apparent"  5 hours, but add in the time zone difference and yoou have a minimum of 6.5 hours for the one best flight. The next best is an apparent 5 3/4 hours (real 7 1/4) and after that it goes up sharply even though I did not show them.
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Post by: patlini on May 08, 2008, 09:58:21 AM
lol - my mother-in-law just flew back to england from dubai tuesday night

hubby is asking her if she saw any camera's in the airport.
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Post by: TaRBoY on May 08, 2008, 10:21:16 AM
Hi RFF! I have some spoilers for yah..  :waves:

My co-forummer on another site (http://entermyworld.heavenforum.com/spoilers-corner-f1/tar-13-spoilers-t211.htm) found this blog.
Credits to JonLover


http://aravenazavaleta.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race-in-dubai.html


Thursday, May 8, 2008
Amazing Race in Dubai

Oh my goodness. I think I've just heard the most frustrating news in my life.

I am a big fan of reality shows especially the Amazing Race. Though I only watched few seasons, I can say the show is great.

Hindi ko inaasahan ang aking narinig kagabi, as in kagabi talaga. My high school friend who is also in Dubai paid me a visit in my flat. So kailangan ko talaga mag-order ng tequila ng palihim since bawal sa Arab countries.

While we were having shots of tequila, medyo tipsy na at ala-una na yata ng umaga (eh, may pasok pa kami kinabukasan) naalala niya na hilig ko manood nga ng Amazing Race.

Then he began telling a story he heard from his friends who are working as ground stewards sa Dubai International Airport 2. My God.....I have been dreaming na makita ko rin sila while filming at dumating na nga sila sa area namin eh hindi ko pa rin sila nakita. So sabi ko that is the most frustrating news I've heard that day.

Sana, nakita ko mga contestants ng Amazing Race. So I eagerly asked and grilled him.

May nakita raw ang friend niya na mga camera crew, may hawak ng camera at saka malaking mikropono, tapos may mga dalang malalaking back packs. May hinahabol daw silang mga grupo na parang nag-uunahan din. Akala niya daw kasi may gulo o di kaya shooting ng isang international movie pero nang magtanong siya sa mga kasamahan niya sa loob ng Duty Free, nalaman niya na mga members daw ng isang Travel and Documentary show. Pero suspetsa nila ay contestants sila ng Amazing Race dahil bakit daw sila nag-uunahan pagkalabas ng eroplano papuntang Customs.

Waaaaa, sabi ko, bakit hindi ako ang nakakita sa kanila. Definitely nakipag-unahan din ako sa kanila makunan lang sila ng litrato. At least kapag maipalabas na sa TV masasabi ko na "I was there" "I was there". LOL

Well, that is life. Kung ano yung gusto mo ay hindi mo nakikita. Hehehe. Sayang, that is a sighting din ng mga contestants for Amazing Race and I believe it is the Season 13.

Well, sabi ko nga kailangan ko makausap iyong kaibigan niyang iyon.

Oh, kung sino pa ang addict sa show,s iya pa ang hindi nakakita.

Sigh. Sigh



I'll try to translate it for you guys later because it is written in Tagalog.
The sighting is in Dubai. :jumpy:

It's okay chris.. Anyway here is my translation:



Hindi ko inaasahan ang aking narinig kagabi, as in kagabi talaga. My high school friend who is also in Dubai paid me a visit in my flat. So kailangan ko talaga mag-order ng tequila ng palihim since bawal sa Arab countries.


" I didn't expect the voice I heard yesterday. My high school friend who is also in Dubai paid me a visit in my flat. So I need to order tequila secretly because it is prohibited in some Arab Countries"




While we were having shots of tequila, medyo tipsy na at ala-una na yata ng umaga (eh, may pasok pa kami kinabukasan) naalala niya na hilig ko manood nga ng Amazing Race.


" While we were having shots of tequila. He is quite tipsy already and it is already one in the morning . My friend remembered that I love to watch the Amazing Race."



Then he began telling a story he heard from his friends who are working as ground stewards sa Dubai International Airport 2. My God.....I have been dreaming na makita ko rin sila while filming at dumating na nga sila sa area namin eh hindi ko pa rin sila nakita. So sabi ko that is the most frustrating news I've heard that day.

" Then he began telling a story. He heard from his friends who are working as ground stewards on Dubai International Airport 2."



May nakita raw ang friend niya na mga camera crew, may hawak ng camera at saka malaking mikropono, tapos may mga dalang malalaking back packs. May hinahabol daw silang mga grupo na parang nag-uunahan din. Akala niya daw kasi may gulo o di kaya shooting ng isang international movie pero nang magtanong siya sa mga kasamahan niya sa loob ng Duty Free, nalaman niya na mga members daw ng isang Travel and Documentary show. Pero suspetsa nila ay contestants sila ng Amazing Race dahil bakit daw sila nag-uunahan pagkalabas ng eroplano papuntang Customs.

"My friend said that his friend saw a camera crew, holding cameras and large microphones then they have large backpacks on their back. They are running after a group that is running also. He thought that there is a commotion or shooting of an international movie but when he ask a friend inside Duty Free, the friend said that they are a part of a travel and documentary show. But they suspect that they are racers of The Amazing Race because the people spotted are racing toward the customs."




I just translated the important paragraphs because the other paragraphs have no connection whatsoever with the sighting..


I hope this help you guys.... :tup:




Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2008, 10:23:01 AM
Thank you TaRBoY & chris_oclc! Now thats the kind of spoilers I'm talking about  :jumpy:
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Post by: TaRBoY on May 08, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
Yippee! THANK YOU!!  :jam:

Dubai!!

See if you can get date, time of day, and descriptions of the teams for us, okay??

There are no team descriptions... But i would like to clarify that the sighting is not exactly MAY 7, that is only the date that the blogger post the message..
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: TaRBoY on May 08, 2008, 10:27:52 AM
Thank you TaRBoY & chris_oclc! Now thats the kind of spoilers I'm talking about  :jumpy:



 :jumpy: Thanks puddin, I'm a long time lurker here and I'm happy to help you guys in your detective works.. :tup:
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Post by: redwings8831 on May 08, 2008, 10:41:14 AM
Thanks for the information, but my only concern about it is the following line:

"While we were having shots of tequila. He is quite tipsy already and it is already one in the morning."
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Post by: TaRBoY on May 08, 2008, 10:52:34 AM
Thanks for the information, but my only concern about it is the following line:

"While we were having shots of tequila. He is quite tipsy already and it is already one in the morning."


 :lol: it's the opening line in the blog entry...hehe..but that is not part of the spoiler..  :lol:
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Post by: nikita on May 08, 2008, 10:55:36 AM
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1053380-Vendors_inside_Angkor_Wat-Angkor_Wat.jpg)

This from inside Angkor Wat. Or did we already know that? (The colour of the awnings are different, but you know what I mean...)

Phil might be using the 12-hour Pit Stop period to film the "stand-ups" for the Angkor Wat Roadblock...


Err, I know the Angkor Wat spoiler is kinda old but that building is not in the Angkor Wat or Angkor Thom complex nor do I recall seeing it.  Looks more like the temple in Siem Reap Killing Fields museum which is nearby...
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Post by: Neobie on May 08, 2008, 11:04:28 AM
Yikes! This (http://www.around-the-world-travel-adventures.com/angkor-wat-temple-ta-prohm-pictures.html) is the website I stole the picture from. The caption is "Vendor area. Vendors remain outside the temple complex."

If I remember correctly these are located across the moat from the Angkor Wat temple where all the tuk-tuks park, but inside the Angkor Wat complex (where you pay money to enter).

I think these are the tents on Google Earth, on the west side of Angkor Wat (I'm not 100% confident about my memory, though):
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6291/indexkx0.th.gif) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexkx0.gif)
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Post by: nikita on May 08, 2008, 11:19:08 AM
Yikes! This (http://www.around-the-world-travel-adventures.com/angkor-wat-temple-ta-prohm-pictures.html) is the website I stole the picture from. The caption is "Vendor area. Vendors remain outside the temple complex."

If I remember correctly these are located across the moat from the Angkor Wat temple where all the tuk-tuks park, but inside the Angkor Wat complex (where you pay money to enter).

I think these are the tents on Google Earth, on the west side of Angkor Wat (I'm not 100% confident about my memory, though):


I will look at my photos I took and see if is indeed the vendor area across Angkor Watt because I do not recall seeing that building there. The vendor area is mostly tents and small restaurants and the entrance area where tickets are bought is 10 minutes away from the temples.
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 08, 2008, 10:20:05 PM
A bit more detail from a new blogger on the Elevator task in Salvador (but no photos)

Link (http://laneandflora.blogspot.com/2008/05/salvador.html)
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I actually witnessed an episode of the T.V. show, The Amazing Race, being filmed right here. They had secured a huge net from the top of the elevator to the bottom, and the contestants had to crawl down it. I don't think the Brazilians watching had any idea what was going on.
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Post by: puddin on May 08, 2008, 11:45:38 PM
Thanks for that Mrs Shrek



 A new Blog  (http://lornaincambodia.blogspot.com/2008/05/well-overdue-update.html)

Last weekend mum and I went up to Siem Reap for a long weekend. We stayed in a great place near the Old Market and spent most of the time checking out as many temples as humanly possible, shopping in town and making the most of relaxing by the pool. We saw plenty more temples we hadn’t seen on our last trip along with the favs – Ta Phrom, Bayon and Angkor Wat. We also took a trip out to the Ruolos temples which was well worth it. Make sure you check out season 13 of the Amazing Race. We were at Angkor Wat on Sunday and found the clue box! They were filming for hours and we spent half the time stalking the contestants looking for the next clue, it was hilarious! I’m sure they’ll be spending plenty of time editing us out of the background.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_DSC_0680.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/DSC_0680.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on May 09, 2008, 12:09:35 AM
Seeing that brings a smile to my face...

Oh, and just for kicks... 11.05am?
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9388/indexlf1.th.png) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexlf1.png)
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Post by: puddin on May 09, 2008, 12:58:24 AM
Seeing that brings a smile to my face...

Oh, and just for kicks... 11.05am?

Your close Neobie, from Slowhatch's book of school :) DateTime : 2008:05:04 11:46:48
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 09, 2008, 01:46:03 AM
The blogger said 6, but I count 7 flags there (the flags on each end are almost hidden--compare my arrows below to the original (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameskhoo/2472602864/sizes/o/)). Doesn't production often hire one extra vehicle/animal/etc. for tasks?

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7648/indexro7.th.jpg) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexro7.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 09, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
The blogger said 6, but I count 7 flags there (the flags on each end are almost hidden--compare my arrows below to the original (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameskhoo/2472602864/sizes/o/)). Doesn't production often hire one extra vehicle/animal/etc. for tasks?

If the person in the dark top/white pants is touching the last flag (pinning it on the boat maybe?) then I agree there are 7 flags there.

I think an extra vehicle is sometimes on standby for breakdowns etc, but it doesn't always happen. :duno:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 09, 2008, 11:19:57 AM
Good eye Slowhatch. 

Boat numbers with TAR flags:

A*U 2-5591
A*U 2-5538
A*U 2-5692
A*U 2-5744
A*U 2-5536
A*U 2-5745
A*U 2-5722

Seven boats.  And the red and blue flags on the boats is the Cambodian flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Cambodia.svg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 09, 2008, 11:26:36 AM
Thanks Slowhatch and Chateau!

Let's see if we can put the teams in order in Cambodia...

Chateau said here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300230.html#msg300230

that this pic was "high noon".
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/04May0000.jpg)

And we know from Chrisrae that the AA couple were seen at about 2:30 to 3 loading the baskets/on the truck. So they may already have been to Ankgor Wat for the clue--or is that after?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/13361_1210223304268.jpg)

And some new info:

The photographer of this fellow
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/CIMG2363.jpg)

has sent the following info:

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As far as your questions, the guy was by himself, though there was also a blond girl w a green shirt (not the one you see in the picture, she is from my group) and a white baseball hat also looking for whatever. I have no idea what exactly they were looking for, and the day I saw them was Sunday May 4, I think late AM my time. We are, I believe, 11 hours ahead of EST.


So both blue shirt guy and a blonde were there about the same time, although we think from the airport pics that blue shirt guy is actually partnered with a dark haired girl...
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 09, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Good eye Slowhatch. 

Boat numbers with TAR flags:

A*U 2-5591
A*U 2-5538
A*U 2-5692
A*U 2-5744
A*U 2-5536
A*U 2-5745
A*U 2-5722

Seven boats.  And the red and blue flags on the boats is the Cambodian flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Cambodia.svg)

TPTB almost always have one more vehicle of any kind (car, bike, boat, etc.) than there are teams.  So our estimate of six teams holds true with one extra boat standing by.
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 09, 2008, 05:29:48 PM

So both blue shirt guy and a blonde were there about the same time, although we think from the airport pics that blue shirt guy is actually partnered with a dark haired girl...

That picture of the guy in blue might quite possibly be of the roadblock then - that's the best chance of seeing members of different teams without their partners
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Post by: puddin on May 09, 2008, 05:35:59 PM
Well we know Angkor Wat is where the Roadblock is per the girl with the reddish/blond hair holding the red clue.

........and thanks Slowhatch :)
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Post by: puddin on May 09, 2008, 11:39:31 PM
I'm not sure where to stick this  :lol:, winners win a trip?



Winners of Amazing Race wins stay in the Intercontinental River 29/April/2008  (http://www.artistaseartes.com.br/sub_paginas.php?pagina=7792&menu=70)

Winners of reality American show commemorate in the Carioca Carnival Winners of American reality carnival show celebrating the Reality show Amazing Race 13 starts to be recorded this month for the American net of TV CBS. The reality show Amazing Race 13 begins you be recorded this month by the American TV network CBS. In the end of this season, the winners, besides taking U$ 1 million, still gain of the Intercontinental Hotel River, in Are Conrado, seven nights in a suíte of luxury, in the next Carioca Carnival, with right the stroll and diving in the Archipelago of the Cagarras. At the end of this season, the winners, and bring $ 1 million, still win the Intercontinental Hotel River, in Is Conrado, seven nights in the carnival suite of luxury in the next, with the right you walk and diving in the archipelago of Cagarras.

Rio De Janeiro already was scene for one of the stages of the second season of the program, in 2002. The Rio De Janeiro has been setting the stage will be second season of the programme in 2002. To guarantee the prizes, the 11 participant pairs give the return to the world, fulfilled the most varied tasks. You ensure the awards, double the 11 participants you give back you the world, met the most varied task. The episodes will be transmitted in as the semester, in the United States. The episodes will be transmitted in the second half, the United States. In Brazil, the program is shown by the canal of TV for signature AXN. In Brazil, the programme is shown by the channel, AXN Wire TV. The American series already took five Emmy trophies in the Reality category Show. The series has already led five U.S. trophies Emmy in the category Reality Television.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 09, 2008, 11:51:53 PM
Sounds like a Pit Stop prize? Maybe on the Brazil leg? Or a prize for the winners? We need our translator again! :lol:
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 12:04:35 AM
The date of the release is what I find interesting seeing as they were MIA on the  29th  (:;)
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 12:44:23 AM
Santa Cruz to Buenos Aires  (http://huttylucke.blogspot.com/2008/05/santa-cruz-to-buenos-aires.html)
Tuesday 29th April :yess:

Today we spent most of the day trying to get to Buenos Aires. Our flight was supposed to be at 1045, but on the way to the airport at 0900 - it started raining........and then came the thunder and lightning, and before we knew it we were in the midst of a pretty good storm. Oh well, nothing to do but sit and wait it out. Now, airports are not on my list of favourite places to be stuck at the best of times, and unfortunately Santa Cruz airport is fairly small, and thus lacks the distractions of copious amounts of duty free shopping, so we got very bored, very quickly, and basically sat reading our books for the next couple of hours - apart from when we saw Phil Keoghan (of Amazing Race fame) waiting for a plane too - now we are wondering if the Amazing Race was in town - that would be cool!
We finally took off at 1245, during a gap in the storm, and landed in BA at 1715. Flying over Argentina was completely different to many of the other places we have flown - for a start it was pretty flat. The agriculture also looked a lot more organised/westernised. It definitely looks more like a first world country. We are staying tonight at El Hostal de Granados in Sam Telmo (the artists/antiques barrio in BA) before flying to Puerto Iguazu in the morning. We had dinner at El Desnivel which is a Paradilla (Grill) Restaurant, where they serve huge chunks of steak which have been cooked over a wood-fired grill. Paradilla and red wine are the food that Argentina is famous for, so of course we had to partake in both. The atmosphere of the restaurant was pretty cool, very relaxed and laid-back, but still excellent service. The servings were huge, and the whole meal only cost us A$81 = NZ$32.
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 01:02:40 AM
From the blog peach and I have determined .. Santa Cruz, Bolivia :yess:

Viru Viru International Airport (VVI) Santa Cruz, Bolivia



(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5313/indexho7.th.gif) (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexho7.gif)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2008, 01:16:46 AM
You guys are so good!   :jam:

So Phil was bugging out early, ahead of the Teams who, we know, pass through Santiago the next day.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2008, 01:20:40 AM
So maybe extended pitstop there or why would Phil be leaving early?

And there is another airport too 12 miles away:El Trompillo Airport, Santa Cruz (SRZ), 19km (12mi)

Only American and Varig seem to fly out of VVI
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2008, 01:25:52 AM
Hi Chateau! :waves:

Glad you are here to help!

From Apskip's latest timeline:

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4/25 - 4/30
We do not know where teams go next. It could be Fortaleza, Recife, Manaus, Brasilia, LaPaz, Santacruz, Asuncion or elsewhere. It is highly highly likely that there is a REST DAY on 4/30 in the Santiago area.

4/30
What we appear to be sure of is that teams end up at Santiago Chile airport on this evening.

Not sure if he meant Santa Cruz Argentina here or Santa cruz Bolivia? ???
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 01:26:53 AM
Like Chateau said he was probably getting ahead of the teams from wherever they just finished up, like they already did they pitstop wherever and hes moving on to the next location.
 ..gosh I wish the blog had pictures *groan* how can you be from NZ and not talk to Phil?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2008, 01:31:21 AM
Things to do there:

http://www.backpackingbolivia.com/index_archivos/Page870.htm

http://www.biocentroguembe.com/en/index.php

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Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2008, 01:44:20 AM
I was just checking Travelocity for VVI.  It looks like only two flights a day from the airport.   :ascared

Choice 1:  Iquique

Choice 2:  Lima

Scratch that.  Now I 'm seeing a Miami and an Asuncion.

But still, it's slim pickin's
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 01:51:11 AM
I was just checking Travelocity for VVI.  It looks like only two flights a day from the airport.   :ascared

Choice 1:  Iquique

Choice 2:  Lima

Scratch that.  Now I 'm seeing a Miami and an Asuncion.

But still, it's slim pickin's
Viru Viru International Airport (VVI) Santa Cruz, Bolivia was my guess thanks to google  Chateau, no idea, lol. Maybe peachs's El Trompillo Airport, Santa Cruz is right?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2008, 02:03:53 AM
Well, it showed up in Apskip's net (the city).  And La Paz too.  So really, the action could be both.  In one, out the other.

I think when Apskip gets his charts going we will have it nailed down.  Airwise is down so I really have little to work with.
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Post by: puddin on May 10, 2008, 02:12:32 AM
Thank you for the help Chateau, :<3.  I'm hoping for a leg in the "Amazon". I just searched all the Portuguese language sites and all that comes up is the original skyscrapercity entry and the Carioca Carnival prize so Que sera sera for now  :waves:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2008, 02:21:52 AM
Night guys! :luvu:

Darned Airwise going down right when I need it! :meow:
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Post by: apskip on May 10, 2008, 07:47:57 AM
Hi Chateau! :waves:

Glad you are here to help!

From Apskip's latest timeline:

Quote
4/25 - 4/30
We do not know where teams go next. It could be Fortaleza, Recife, Manaus, Brasilia, LaPaz, Santacruz, Asuncion or elsewhere. It is highly highly likely that there is a REST DAY on 4/30 in the Santiago area.

4/30
What we appear to be sure of is that teams end up at Santiago Chile airport on this evening.

Not sure if he meant Santa Cruz Argentina here or Santa cruz Bolivia? ???

A prior post would clarify that I meant Bolivia. Also, the only airport worth talkling about is VVI, which is a major transit hub in South America as well as the local airport for the largest city in Bolivia(I didn't know that!). LAN Ecuador, LAN Argentina, LAN Peru, TACA, Aerosur, and American Airlines serve VVI International Airport. There are flights to Europe, the U.S. and about 30 different South American cities, which I will be listing in Timetables and Flight Information to not take up valuable space here.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2008, 10:29:27 AM
Hi-Fi's translation of the Winner thing: :thankyou:

Quote
LOL It only says the winners of this season will celebrate next year's caraval in Rio in the Intercontinental hotel. No spoilers or anything juicy at all. : )
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2008, 03:46:10 PM
This shot was taken here between 9:45 and 9:59 am (assumes April 24th)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/laddarshot.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/GEelevador.jpg)
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Post by: lucky13 on May 10, 2008, 11:52:47 PM
Did I imagine it or did the ski photos disappear? Security issue? Dubai too close to war zone?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2008, 12:01:37 AM
:welcome2: to RFF lucky 13!

They were from TAR Asia so not needed here... We wouldn't want to confuse the masses! :lol:

Glad you are here and noticing though! :waves:
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Post by: mswood on May 11, 2008, 12:37:01 AM
This shot was taken here between 9:45 and 9:59 am (assumes April 24th)
God, how I missed these posts.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 12:56:42 AM
Thanks mswood!   :-[

I'm thinking that the teams were hung up there by an Hours of Op set for 9 am.  Don't tell Apskip but the closest preceding flight out of Sao Paulo was at 7:35 am.  And it's 2 hours 20 odd minutes long.  That dumps them too late for this shot.

So it looks like they get to Salvador on earlier flights.  Like 10:30 pm or 4:10 am.  And they have to wait at the elevator.
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 01:03:02 AM
Thanks mswood!   :-[

I'm thinking that the teams were hung up there by an Hours of Op set for 9 am.  Don't tell Apskip but the closest preceding flight out of Sao Paulo was at 7:35 am.  And it's 2 hours 20 odd minutes long.  That dumps them too late for this shot.

So it looks like they get to Salvador on earlier flights.  Like 10:30 pm or 4:10 am.  And they have to wait at the elevator.
You rock as always Chateau :yourock:  :yess:

Did I imagine it or did the ski photos disappear? Security issue? Dubai too close to war zone?
My bad  :-[ ;) , just glad that it was figured out before it got out of hand  :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 01:14:29 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/125px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png)    (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Flag_of_Bolivia_%28state%29.svg/120px-Flag_of_Bolivia_%28state%29.svg.png)      (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/125px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png)    (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Flag_of_Cambodia.svg/125px-Flag_of_Cambodia.svg.png)      (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Flag_of_India.svg/125px-Flag_of_India.svg.png)
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 11:28:47 AM
Updates on our life in Bolivia (La Paz ) (http://truchalibre.blogspot.com/2008/05/winter-is-coming-again.html)


ok, fun tidbits now! The day we took possession of our apartment we were crossing the park in front of our building and noticed a lot of people and some really weird all wood bicycles. I noticed a lot of the people around them looked like the rich gortex-wearing tourist we see and/or the Discovery Channel crew that worked with us last year. Then I noticed it: a yellow signed that said "U-Turn" with a yellow and red flag on it... It was The Amazing Race!!!!! (It's a fun reality show, google it if you don't know what it is) I was sooooooo excited! I was torn between staying there until contestants showed up or going into our apartment. Given Wes' lack of enthusiasm I decided to go back home. But hey, next Amazing Race they will be showing our building and our park!


Heres a view from their apartment fwiw
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-6.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-7.jpg)
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Post by: michael on May 11, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
u-turn (:;)
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 11:34:27 AM
She must have seen them in our time frame for Bolivia, after 25 April 2008 if you read through the blog :)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-8.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 11:49:39 AM
Wooden bike picture, maybe this is what it looks like?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-9.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index2.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 12:01:28 PM
Words cannot desribe how amazing you are Puddin!!!

Let me add a line from the blog (what you said about April 25th)

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As some of you now know, we found ourselves an apartment in La Paz - moving in tuesday.

So they moved in on April 22nd.   Could they have witnessed the setting up of the task?  Too bad they did not catch racers.
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 12:06:17 PM
haha its OCD nothing amazing Chateau. Good catch!!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 12:08:35 PM
Wait, I get it.  She's talking in the future.  As in, they will be moving in on Tuesday[./i]

So, since it was posted on the 25th, that means the Tuesday she is talking about is Tuesday the 29th.


Quote
That's it for now! I will post pictures once we've moved in and made the place look a little more homelike.

brb with location based on her her nice high rez shots   :tup:
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 12:11:26 PM
Wait, I get it.  She's talking in the future.  As in, they will be moving in on Tuesday[./i]

So, since it was posted on the 25th, that means the Tuesday she is talking about is Tuesday the 29th.
Wow that is a tight schedule! 4/29 in La Paz Bolvia, 4/30 spotted in Santiago Chile airport, no wonder they were exhausted and dirty at the airport, they were running hard.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2008, 12:15:14 PM
Whooee puddin! NICE yet again! :hearts:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 12:35:38 PM
This shot was taken here.

The 16 story building is located opposite (for a 16 story building it's opposite)

El Monticulo aka Subida Monticulo  and inside is this Neptuno en el Monticulo
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7830/indexno7.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexno7.jpg)(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/57/indexcar52o9pxd4.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcar52o9pxd4.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 12:36:53 PM
Neptuno en el Monticulo  Panoramio link (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/60761)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/60761.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 02:32:06 PM
Quote
Wow that is a tight schedule! 4/29 in La Paz Bolvia, 4/30 spotted in Santiago Chile airport, no wonder they were exhausted and dirty at the airport, they were running hard.

Let's have Phil (spotted in Santa Cruz VVI midday on the 29th) on his way to La Paz.  He needs to get there to administer his duties at the Mat.

The U-turn indicates that the pit stop is not far away in either time or space.
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Post by: puddin on May 11, 2008, 02:38:07 PM
Nice landmarks Chateau, something we might see in a introflash  :yess:

Phil would not have had much time to do his standups ???

from the blog (http://huttylucke.blogspot.com/2008/05/santa-cruz-to-buenos-aires.html)
*Our flight was supposed to be at 1045.
*we saw Phil Keoghan (of Amazing Race fame) waiting for a plane too
*We finally took off at 1245, during a gap in the storm, and landed in BA at 1715

more trivia
airport at la paz. highest airport in the world. 13,000 feet. the airplanes need additional runway to take off and land because of the thin air. also need special tires because they endure lots of stress on landing airport at la paz. "El Alto"
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2008, 02:52:12 PM
Phil can do stand up before or after teams come through.  He can even do them elsewhere and pretend he is where the location is.  He did this with the Shoe Shine Roadblock in Season 7.  They filmed him in Cuzco while the task was down in Arequipa.

It looks really tight though.  OToH I see a huge amount of time for the Brazilian interior.  Maybe two legs between Salvador de Bahia and Bolivia?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 12, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
This shot was taken here between 11:24 and 11:32 am (asumes May 4th).

Cosine corrected for better accuracy.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-10.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index2-1.jpg)
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Post by: apskip on May 12, 2008, 09:02:51 PM
Quote
Wow that is a tight schedule! 4/29 in La Paz Bolvia, 4/30 spotted in Santiago Chile airport, no wonder they were exhausted and dirty at the airport, they were running hard.

Let's have Phil (spotted in Santa Cruz VVI midday on the 29th) on his way to La Paz.  He needs to get there to administer his duties at the Mat.

The U-turn indicates that the pit stop is not far away in either time or space.

Well, CHATEAU, it should not surprise you to find out that once again I disagree with your thinking. I believe that a sighting of Phil midday on APril 29 at VVI was making the connection between either of the 2 nonstop flights from LPB into VVI that mornign and LA967 departing from VVI at 1205 to SCL with stop in Iquique. If it is to LPB, then Phil could not do a mat in LaPaz, turn around, and get a flight(actually the same one on April 30) that will arrive SCL prior to 1725 on 4/30.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2008, 02:49:53 AM
So our lady must have moved into her 16th floor La Paz apartment on Monday the 28th.

She was not specific about the date.  That works for me.

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Post by: Neobie on May 13, 2008, 04:59:32 AM
Well, technically there isn't anything preventing Phil from taking the 30th night flight out of Santiago, along with the rest of the teams. It's happened before quite a few times, especially when flights are few and far between, like they are here between Santiago and Auckland.



A pointless piece of information that belongs in the air schedules thread, but since you guys brought it up here... There is indeed a set of flights that can get Phil to Santiago before 1725 on the 30th:

5L 210 from La Paz to Santa Cruz: 0830 to 0930
5L 210 from Santa Cruz to Buenos Aires: 1045 to 1430
AC 93 from Buenos Aires to Santiago: 1600 to 1720

Hey, I did say "pointless" right? :lol:

But come to think of it, these could explain Justin's "two waves" of racers coming into Santiago Airport!
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Post by: apskip on May 13, 2008, 07:24:44 AM
Would you want to send Phil across the Pacific on a flight that gave him only 5 hours slack after an all-day flgith to be followed by 2 full days of flying? I wouldn't want to be the route creator that did not!

However, Neobie, it seems you always have a silveer lining in your cloud. What could ahve happened is that Phil indeed took your route and stopped in Buenos Aires. Then he would have been able to catch AR1182 separate from the teams(who were resting in the Santiago area) for the transSouthPacific crossing to Auckland. He would have to switch there to LAN801 with everyone else leaving 0525 arriving SYD 0705.

The reason there has to be a REST DAY somewhere, and I now think it has to be only in Auckland or in Sydney, is that the transPacific flights can easily be late by more than 30 minutes. If AR1182 arrives later than say 0515 it will be impossible to catch LAN801 and get to Sydney in time for the critical 0800 Singapore Airlines flight SYD to SIN. Or if LAN801 departs Auckland later than 0600 there will be insufficient connect time there. To compensate, you must build in a REST DAY in either Auckland or Sydney(take your pick as to which one van Munster and Doganieri chose). Remember this as a question for AR13 eliminees!
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 13, 2008, 12:44:12 PM
Amazing Race in Portland?
Found this:
http://www.wweek.com/wwire/?p=11881

DASHING FOR DOLLARS: Forget next Tuesday’s primary, the real race is already underway. Although officials at the Port of Portland cannot confirm rumors, CBS-TV’s The Amazing Race 13 , which pits teams against each other in a race around the world, has touched down in Portland now through Thursday, May 15 . Who knew? Well, as first reported here, it was none other than local mens panties proprietor, Steven Lien, of UnderU4men. According to Lien, who was pushed out of his normal parking garage to make way for the camera crew on Monday morning, the show looks like it’s staging right behind Broadway’s Benson Hotel . “There are about 20 big vehicles and lots of people in nice shoes and really dark glasses,” Lien told WW. Later that day a few production peeps (alas no Phil Keoghan) who came in to his shop looking for fresh underpants confirmed Amazing’s PDX presence for Lien. A quick web search also confirms that filming for the TV show is scheduled to take place sometime in May.

Let's hope they have better luck getting half and half from our baristas than the following contestant had milking a camel.
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 12:45:23 PM
I was just coming to post that walkingpneumonia  :jumpy:

It doesn't jive, lol

nevermind
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Post by: Zack. on May 13, 2008, 12:59:30 PM
If my math's right then that would be day 21 (today) to 23. If they plan on doing an abridged season again (sigh), then that falls in line for a final location. Not to mention we pretty much lost them after Dubai, so they could've gone anywhere and done anything within 6 days (enough time for 3 legs I'd say).
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
I was doing the math and thinking if they did the 21 or maybe 22 days they would be back today. anyway if this is true TPTB were awful sloppy, I don't know what to think? We need to do some detective work..

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Post by: Kogs on May 13, 2008, 01:07:13 PM
pdx arrivals for today

http://www.flypdx.com/flights_search.aspx?TimeFrom=0&TimeTo=24&Date=Today&FlightNumber=&FlightType=A&Airline=&City=&filterType=all
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 01:07:15 PM
another quip (http://www.oregonmediainsiders.com/node/1571)
Amazing Race is in PDX!
Submitted by LynnS on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 10:42am.
As Byron Beck at WWire says, who knew? I always liked that show, and I always forget it's on. Now I'm going to have to watch it!

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Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 13, 2008, 01:12:28 PM
I'm guessing O'Bryant Square - finish line or pit stop?
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
We think its fake as in not our race,,, peach is on it ;)

nvm
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Post by: Kogs on May 13, 2008, 01:20:19 PM
We think its fake as in not our race,,, peach is on it ;)

figured lol. didnt make scense looking at arrivals at pdx
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 02:00:09 PM
Pretty sure this is a publicity stunt, but more info still incoming--back later.
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Post by: Kogs on May 13, 2008, 02:02:23 PM
Pretty sure this is a publicity stunt, but more info still incoming--back later.

looks like it
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
I'm guessing O'Bryant Square - finish line or pit stop?
O'Bryant Square

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-4.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/index-5.jpg)
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Post by: mswood on May 13, 2008, 02:27:39 PM
Well  if this is accurate it will be a short season again.  Oh well.  With confirmation of two seasons it not all bad news.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 02:34:14 PM
Waiting for a call back confirmation but WRP is filming yesterday and today on Stark between Park and Broadway--which is right next to the Benson Hotel...



(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR13finale.jpg)
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Post by: mswood on May 13, 2008, 02:39:13 PM
Oh great Mistress of Maps, are we going to get a thread for Maps (for the geographically challenged among us)? 
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 02:39:36 PM
Thanks peach!!!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing O'Bryant Square - finish line or pit stop?
You might have nailed it walkingpneumonia!! Good job!!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 02:40:54 PM
Was working on MAPs! this morning--coming soon!! :lol:
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Post by: mswood on May 13, 2008, 02:42:36 PM
Was working on MAPs! this morning--coming soon!! :lol:
Yeah no hurry with finale leg spoilers, and all.

Great job, with that by the way.
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 02:47:19 PM
Your just awesome peach!! and you are too walkingpneumonia :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 03:06:44 PM
I have someone going over there now to see what is going on... :happy:
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Post by: Kogs on May 13, 2008, 03:09:49 PM
I have someone going over there now to see what is going on... :happy:

love the live spoilers lol
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Post by: apskip on May 13, 2008, 03:28:49 PM
pdx arrivals for today

http://www.flypdx.com/flights_search.aspx?TimeFrom=0&TimeTo=24&Date=Today&FlightNumber=&FlightType=A&Airline=&City=&filterType=all

I see these of interest for international west to east nonstop flights:

Toronto
Frankfurt
Amsterdam

Portland has long been on my lists of places where Amazing Races should be doing the Finale, but it never has previously made the cut. I think it is overdue and so this is pretty likely to be the real thing even though it is much quicker than I woukld have guessed.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 03:48:37 PM
I can confirm this is 100% real!!

I now know the EXACT location of the finale, but with my love of the race am not willing to subject them to a media frenzy--oh what's a girl to do?? :helpme

Any Portland peeps out there? :angel:
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Post by: patlini on May 13, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
I can confirm this is 100% real!!

I now know the EXACT location of the finale, but with my love of the race am not willing to subject them to a media frenzy--oh what's a girl to do?? :helpme

Any Portland peeps out there? :angel:

Peach can you help - is the finale today or tomorrow?  sorry if i'm a bit slow on the uptake here
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: quetranza on May 13, 2008, 04:33:56 PM
I want to know!  I'm in Portland.  Big fan of the show since season 1.
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Post by: quetranza on May 13, 2008, 05:12:41 PM
There is some kind of commotion outside my office on the waterfront in downtown, but it's just a bike race.. false alarm.
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 05:46:19 PM
There is some kind of commotion outside my office on the waterfront in downtown, but it's just a bike race.. false alarm.
Heres your alert quetranza!

TRAFFIC ALERT
A bike race has northbound Naito Parkway in Portland closed between SW Jefferson and NW 9th from 2 p.m. to 9 p.m. Tuesday.
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Post by: Kogs on May 13, 2008, 05:47:53 PM
There is some kind of commotion outside my office on the waterfront in downtown, but it's just a bike race.. false alarm.
Heres your alert quetranza!

TRAFFIC ALERT
A bike race has northbound Naito Parkway in Portland closed between SW Jefferson and NW 9th from 2 p.m. to 9 p.m. Tuesday.


does weather come with the traffic report?
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Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 06:02:51 PM
She has photos of vehicles!! (http://www.tvgoddess.com/2008/05/photos_of_a_parking_lot_for_ta.html)

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Post by: Chateau d If on May 13, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
 :lala :lala :lala

I hope the onlookers don't trip the racers as they step on the mat.   :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 06:26:23 PM
:lala :lala :lala

I hope the onlookers don't trip the racers as they step on the mat.   :groan:
I know Chateau, although I love spoilers I hope the show isn't ruined.
.........back to the webcams, lol

eta: Amazing Race, How Sweet the Sound (in Portland) (http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2008/05/amazing_race_how_sweet_the_sou.html%20target=)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2008, 07:42:39 PM
:lala :lala :lala

I hope the onlookers don't trip the racers as they step on the mat.   :groan:
I know Chateau, although I love spoilers I hope the show isn't ruined.

I think we are all in 100% agreement here.

I love tracking what is happening with the race and the racers with a passion.

But even more so, I love the Amazing Race itself. Who knew one show could enrich my life with friends and fun so much?

We are in a bit of a pickle here, because we have never had finale spoiler location info available to us BEFORE the race finished racing.  And that is an altogether different thing than posting that information AFTER the race has finished.

So having said that, I am choosing to NOT share the Finale location just now.
 
I don't think any of us here at RFF would feel right about jeopardizing our beloved race or the current racers in any way.

So WRP/CBS--bring on those decoy racers and run them around Portland like crazy! Now's the time to use them!  :hugs:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 13, 2008, 07:48:59 PM
:lala :lala :lala

I hope the onlookers don't trip the racers as they step on the mat.   :groan:
I know Chateau, although I love spoilers I hope the show isn't ruined.

I think we are all in 100% agreement here.

I love tracking what is happening with the race and the racers with a passion.

But even more so, I love the Amazing Race itself. Who knew one show could enrich my life with friends and fun so much?

We are in a bit of a pickle here, because we have never had finale spoiler location info available to us BEFORE the race finished racing.  And that is an altogether different thing than posting that information AFTER the race has finished.

So having said that, I am choosing to NOT share the Finale location just now.
 
I don't think any of us here at RFF would feel right about jeopardizing our beloved race or the current racers in any way.

So WRP/CBS--bring on those decoy racers and run them around Portland like crazy! Now's the time to use them!  :hugs:


Your awesome peachs :<3
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: patlini on May 13, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
:lala :lala :lala

I hope the onlookers don't trip the racers as they step on the mat.   :groan:
I know Chateau, although I love spoilers I hope the show isn't ruined.

I think we are all in 100% agreement here.

I love tracking what is happening with the race and the racers with a passion.

But even more so, I love the Amazing Race itself. Who knew one show could enrich my life with friends and fun so much?

We are in a bit of a pickle here, because we have never had finale spoiler location info available to us BEFORE the race finished racing.  And that is an altogether different thing than posting that information AFTER the race has finished.

So having said that, I am choosing to NOT share the Finale location just now.
 
I don't think any of us here at RFF would feel right about jeopardizing our beloved race or the current racers in any way.

So WRP/CBS--bring on those decoy racers and run them around Portland like crazy! Now's the time to use them!  :hugs:


Your awesome peachs :<3

Peach i'm in complete agreement with you here

i guess there is spoiling and then there is SPOILING

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Post by: mswood on May 13, 2008, 09:12:02 PM
Actually I also agree.  Now I have no problem if someone wanted to stake out the airport terminations and pull a Izad and follow them.  But I wouldn't want myself to use my frequent flyer miles to suddenly go visit my brother, sister and parents, oh and stalk the final site like a serial killer (I so would).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: gingerman28 on May 13, 2008, 09:28:13 PM
Seems like another short race if the ending in Portland by May 15 is valid.  But a short race is better than no race.

Looks like a long shot for the final three teams to fly from Europe (Frankfurt or Amsterdam) all the way to Portland for the final mat.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Zack. on May 13, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Seems like another short race if the ending in Portland by May 15 is valid.  But a short race is better than no race.

Looks like a long shot for the final three teams to fly from Europe (Frankfurt or Amsterdam) all the way to Portland for the final mat.

They could always have the penultimate leg in North America. Canada, Mexico, perhaps Belize finally? Or even the Caribbean. Still, it's more than likely that Europe's the last continent before NA (unless they randomly decide to turn back around and go to Russia or something).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2008, 01:54:12 AM
RFF received an incredible gift today when a new member of RFF (who wishes to remain anonymous) volunteered to both check out the Portland race vicinity and share what he found with us all.

Here is his story-- We are only removing the names of the two hotels and their pictures for right now, for the same reason that we are not yet going to reveal the finale location. We will post all of this info once the race filming is definitely completed, so you may want to keep checking back here for updates!

Reference Map:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR13finale.jpg)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am a huge fan of "The Amazing Race" but only a casual and infrequent 
reader of TAR sites and forums, so it was largely by luck that I 
happened across this RFF thread: things were incredibly slow at work 
today, so I killed some time surfing the Internet. When I saw there 
was a lot of news coming out about the fall network schedules, my mind 
turned to TAR, and I started searching for TAR 13 news. When that 
searching eventually led me to the news here (still unconfirmed 
earlier this afternoon) that TAR was apparently in Portland, I decided 
to do a recce to the cited location, O'Bryant Square, and its vicinity 
as soon as my work day ended.

What I discovered:

(Pictures are thumbnails--click-click!)

1. WRP VANS ON THE STREET. There are 9 to 10 very large white Ford 
vans (all with Enterprise Rent-A-Car insignia) parked along Stark 
Street on the block east of O'Bryant Square. All of the City of 
Portland parking signs along this block have been modified to indicate 
the spaces are reserved for WRP Production (sic).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/4-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/4.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/3-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/3-1.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2-1.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/8-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/7.jpg)






2. MINIVANS IN A PARKING LOT. Just north and west of the fleet of 
large vans is a pay-to-park parking lot, which was "roped off" with 
yellow tape; signs said "Lot Reserved" and "Lot Closed." Parked in 
this lot were approximately eight smaller vehicles (I'm not good with 
cars but I think they're Dodge minivans -- much closer to the kind of 
vehicle that the racers have used over the years, and quite unlike the 
much large white For vans). The minivans were in various colors, and 
there were three or four other vehicles. I understand other pictures 
exist of this parking lot; the one picture I took is from a less than 
ideal angle because the lot always had at least one person walking 
around it, making it difficult to get a picture without attracting 
attention; this picture shows one of those Dodge minivans from behind. 
On one walkby, I noticed in the windshield of one of the minivans an 
8.5-by-11 piece of white paper onto which was printed "BAG #2" in 
large letters, but that sign was gone when I walked by later.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/5b.jpg)  (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/5.jpg)

Peach: We know from TwoP Mars' post  (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3160509&st=60)that:

Quote
I went back to the lot after work and every car that had been there (including the Xterra) was gone, except for the minivans. And they all had white sheets of paper on the dash that said things like "BAG #2" and "FULL ???" (I couldn't read any of them in their entirety except "BAG #2," because of the lady guarding the lot. This time it was a different lady, who was standing outside of the vans talking on a phone. She was making sure I didn't get too close, though, so I didn't snap any photos of the new dashboards signs.
[/i]





3. MOVEMENT OF PERSONNEL BETWEEN THE TWO VEHICLE AREAS AND TWO HOTELS. 
There was some but not a great deal of activitiy around the large 
white vans. During my strolls up and down that block and the adjoining 
blocks, I occasionally saw various young men and women -- none of whom 
looked like or had the aura of racers -- do unexciting things such as 
talking on a cell phone while standing next to a white van with the 
passenger-side front door open. There was a period of maybe 7 minutes 
when about 5 of these people were all together on a street corner, 
chatting, but I could not make out any of what they said. Most of the 
time, though, the vans just sat there, parked, with no activity.



I observed a red-haired young woman and a young man walk from one of 
the white vans to the Hotel {name temporarily deleted} a very short distance away 
on Broadway. I believe -- and I will be very eager to hear if this can 
be confirmed -- this same red-haired woman appears on one of the 
supplemental "Phil's Diary" videos  on cbs.com for a past TAR season; 
unfortunately, I have no recall of what season that might have been, 
but I think the context was that she's a production assistant of some 
kind and in the video Phil asks her to show her notebook/binder in 
which she keeps track of the results of the challenges. My memory 
might well be letting me down; in any case, she did definitely get 
something out of or put something into one of the vans, and she and 
her male companion then entered the hotel, outside of which was a 
doorman holding a clipboard: I learned the doorman was checking 
guests' names a little while later, when I managed to linger just long 
enough to eavesdrop on the arrival of a guest who apparently was just 
a regular guest, not TAR-related. (I am not familiar with that hotel 
so I don't know if a doorman checking names off a clipboard is a 
normal or extraordinary.) Because I figured the red-haired lady is 
important, I tried to take a picture of her as she walked from the van 
to the hotel, but I failed; the picture that I did get of her was from 
approximately an hour later, when I happened to be walking up the other 
side of the street (Broadway) from the hotel and saw her speaking with 
a young man (also in the pic) who appears to be a driver or possibly a 
hotel valet.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/Portlandproduction.jpg)

Separately, I saw one of the Dodge minivans (from the parking lot) 
dropping off a young man at the Hotel{name temporarily deleted}, which is adjacent to the 
Hotel {deleted} on the same block on Broadway; later on, I saw the 
driver of that vehicle in that reserved parking lot, parking the 
minivan. A different minivan -- a white Nissan one -- was parked just 
outside the Hotel {deleted} for about an hour; its dashboard/
windshield placard also said WRP.

So to sum up, there was movement of both persons and vehicles between 
one small parking lot, one city street block, and two upscale hotels; 
all of which are very very close to each other in a quite busy part of 
central downtown Portland.
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more pics to follow later

Thanks for this incredible summary!!




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Post by: Neobie on May 14, 2008, 02:01:51 AM
Careful you guys... They did "relocate" the Rio samba nightclub to a random isolated warehouse way back in TAR2 because of nosy peeps like us! :snicker:

Hang on, the teams are probably at their final Pit Stop now, right? To think we're rewarding the loyal RFF lurkers who might be racing! :lol:

(Apskip might disagree with the order of Santa Cruz/La Paz in my AYL, but I'll try to stay as close to the original spoilers as possible without rearranging the reported dates.)

*AYL map moved downthread*

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4458/indexcaexa6g4da7.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaexa6g4da7.jpg)
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Post by: zacz on May 14, 2008, 05:03:04 AM
I have a feeling that the eliminated teams may be staying the night in that hotel so they are ready to go to the pit stop in the morning.
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Post by: selwyn on May 14, 2008, 05:52:42 AM
I'd like to add some more concrete support to the New Zealand destination...

The following request was posted on a couple of NZ TV production jobs:

We are looking for 20 Driver/PAs.

The job is 3 days and we have a flat rate of $200 / day. Dates are 30 April, 1 & 2 May.

Applicants need to be over 21, hold a full drivers license, and should confirm this in their email when they contact me.

And should send their CV to me at the email address below.

Many thanks,

Alex Campbell
Production Manager


That sort of job really doesn't fit in with any other sort of production that happens in NZ (there are no other large-scale reality show shooting locally). Fits perfectly with the dates here.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2008, 08:04:38 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, selwyn! And many thanks for sharing that!

I think we would all adore a NZ leg--so any evidence for that is appreciated!

Here's hoping you are right! :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: gingerman28 on May 14, 2008, 10:05:52 AM
Certainly looks like all of the eliminated teams are staying in the unnamed hotels prior to being taken to the final mat by the white minivans.

Pictures of any of these people if taken would be helpful and we would be able to  match with actual team members when they are released by TPTB and we'll have an idea of who made the final three.

But do we want to have this much spoiler info so early? :duno:

Remember once we had the boot order almost at the beginning of one race and that sort of put a damper on things.

Too much information may be more than we want.
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 14, 2008, 10:41:08 AM
Quote
I believe -- and I will be very eager to hear if this can
be confirmed -- this same red-haired woman appears on one of the
supplemental "Phil's Diary" videos  on cbs.com for a past TAR season;
unfortunately, I have no recall of what season that might have been,
but I think the context was that she's a production assistant of some
kind and in the video Phil asks her to show her notebook/binder in
which she keeps track of the results of the challenges.
I remember that. It was at Soweto, where Phil was pointing to the cooling towers with his umbrella and trying out a SA accent. They briefly cut to the woman, who said "we are very much like spies" because production left no data footprint. She then showed the money log, and expressed surprise that one team had more than $100. The page is here (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/) (Phil's travels>Behind the Race>Ep 5) but I get 404 errors when I try to play the file; maybe someone can find it on Innertube.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
Thanks slowhatch! That helps a bunch...

Maybe kogs will have it!
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Post by: Kogs on May 14, 2008, 10:50:16 AM
Thanks slowhatch! That helps a bunch...

Maybe kogs will have it!

looking for it since slowhatch posted it didnt work
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kogs on May 14, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
cant find it peach.
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Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 12:19:04 PM
Going to check out the area now.
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Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 01:21:35 PM
Update as of about 10:30 this morning.  The area is deader than a doornail - I did not see any activity at all.

1)  Most of the white vans on Stark St. are gone.

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/spamtarget/stark.jpg)

I got a shot of a parking receipt that shows they have been there since about 8 AM yesterday.

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/spamtarget/parking.jpg)

2)  Most of the minivans in the parking lot on Oak are gone as well.

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/spamtarget/lot.jpg)

I'm thinking they're out doing the finish line right now.  I walked by the locations that spring to mind downtown - Pioneer Ct. Sq., waterfront park, the park in front of the courthouse, etc.  Probably too many people around to keep it a secret.  My guess is somewhere up in Washington Park - the Vietnam Memorial, Hoyt Arboretum, or the Rose Garden.  If it were me, I'd do it at the Rose Garden - it's probably the most photogenic spot in Portland.

I just might take a drive up there over lunch... wondering if it's worth it.  Anyone got any more detective work?
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 01:27:31 PM
Awesome quetranza, thanks for doing this for us and being our eyes! :<3
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 01:36:10 PM
Gus:   "The game's afoot"    :lol:
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 01:46:17 PM
Gus:   "The game's afoot"    :lol:
  :lol:  :yess:

I meant to thank everyone else :ty

:popcorn: waits for quetranza to return
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Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Well, I went down there again to check out the scene.  Parked my car & lo and behold, what do I see but two people driving away in one of the minivans from the closed off lot.  Jumped back in the car to follow it - they drove down to 2nd av. and are parked in front of voodoo donut.  I bet they have or will have a shoot there - it's a weird Portland thing.  Two people waiting in the car.  Wish they would leave so I could follow them some more..
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 03:43:32 PM
Well, I went down there again to check out the scene.  Parked my car & lo and behold, what do I see but two people driving away in one of the minivans from the closed off lot.  Jumped back in the car to follow it - they drove down to 2nd av. and are parked in front of voodoo donut.  I bet they have or will have a shoot there - it's a weird Portland thing.  Two people waiting in the car.  Wish they would leave so I could follow them some more..
Maybe you can go in and ask them for directions or something, lol
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Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 04:22:09 PM
Well, sorry peeps, I had to come back to work.. After about half an hour of waiting, I walked by the van and it is a couple PAs waiting for something.  Literally doing a crossword.  I did see a conversation they had with what looked like the manager of Voodoo Donut.  I went in there to get me a donut and asked the clerk when the Amazing Race was going to be there.  He gave me a blank stare - so maybe the staff doesn't know about it, or has been instructed to not answer.  Maybe they are just getting donuts for the crew.. who knows.  Now I'm back to paying the mortgage.  Looking forward to seeing Portland on the AR!
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Post by: Boingo on May 14, 2008, 04:28:32 PM
Well, sorry peeps, I had to come back to work.. After about half an hour of waiting, I walked by the van and it is a couple PAs waiting for something.  Literally doing a crossword.  I did see a conversation they had with what looked like the manager of Voodoo Donut.  I went in there to get me a donut and asked the clerk when the Amazing Race was going to be there.  He gave me a blank stare - so maybe the staff doesn't know about it, or has been instructed to not answer.  Maybe they are just getting donuts for the crew.. who knows.  Now I'm back to paying the mortgage.  Looking forward to seeing Portland on the AR!

Maybe quetranza can visit the gift shop at voodoo doughnut....   :snicker:   interesting selection...    :funny:  :angel:
http://shop.voodoodoughnut.com/category.sc?categoryId=4
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Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 04:40:08 PM


Maybe quetranza can visit the gift shop at voodoo doughnut....   :snicker:   interesting selection...    :funny:  :angel:
http://shop.voodoodoughnut.com/category.sc?categoryId=4
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I'm surprised they're not edible..
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 04:40:21 PM
So tell us quetranza  ..do you own a pair of Voodoo Donut panties? If not I'll "fund" you a pair, afterall we owe you one.  :lol:

Want to see (http://www.kgw.com/livecams/popup_pioneersquare.html) how desperate I am for a sighting? I see the sun has finally peeked out .. :spy:

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Post by: patlini on May 14, 2008, 04:43:47 PM
So tell us quetranza  ..do you own a pair of Voodoo Donut panties? If not I'll "fund" you a pair, afterall we owe you one.  :lol:

Want to see (http://www.kgw.com/livecams/popup_pioneersquare.html) how desperate I am for a sighting? I see the sun has finally peeked out .. :spy:



like watching the proverbial paint dry ???
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Post by: sammyk on May 14, 2008, 04:44:21 PM
They are in Portland today.  I was on 5th and Salmon outside my office and two different sets of couples ran by (guy/girl and girl/girl) with a camerman and soundman each.  It looked too like Amazing Race not to be.
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Post by: michael on May 14, 2008, 04:45:46 PM
They are in Portland today.  I was on 5th and Salmon outside my office and two different sets of couples ran by (guy/girl and girl/girl) with a camerman and soundman each.  It looked too like Amazing Race not to be.

 :ascared
girl/girl ?!?

omg *refrains from saying anything*

welcome to the site sammyk! thanks for sharing if it's true
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Post by: Boingo on May 14, 2008, 04:47:00 PM
 :js:  Speaking of interesting places to go in Portland...  looks like they are all near each other...

http://www.rosegardenstore.org/wa_park_map3.pdf

This should make our "Map Lady" happy....  ;)
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 04:52:33 PM
They are in Portland today.  I was on 5th and Salmon outside my office and two different sets of couples ran by (guy/girl and girl/girl) with a camerman and soundman each.  It looked too like Amazing Race not to be.


 :ascared
girl/girl ?!?

omg *refrains from saying anything*

welcome to the site sammyk! thanks for sharing if it's true
Remember there are decoys Michael, don't get too excited. ( Azaria & Hendeka, The Goths, Jen & Nathan for example)

How long ago sammyk ?
Title: Just followed to racers to Voodoo Doughnuts in Portland
Post by: pdxskiier on May 14, 2008, 05:01:41 PM

I just ran down the street in Portland following two girls and the camera crew.
The went to voodoo doughnuts (for a clue I think)   Police talked to producers because fans were running after the racers.
They thought someone was running out on a meal bill...  the team got into the van and drove off.

I think the final is tomorrow am
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Post by: sammyk on May 14, 2008, 05:14:16 PM
They are in Portland today.  I was on 5th and Salmon outside my office and two different sets of couples ran by (guy/girl and girl/girl) with a camerman and soundman each.  It looked too like Amazing Race not to be.


 :ascared
girl/girl ?!?

omg *refrains from saying anything*

welcome to the site sammyk! thanks for sharing if it's true
Remember there are decoys Michael, don't get too excited. ( Azaria & Hendeka, The Goths, Jen & Nathan for example)

How long ago sammyk ?

I know, girl/girl was stupid.....I was a little excited about the siting.  I saw them about 1:55pm running North.  But, I did notice they looked awfully rested, not frazzled at all....maybe decoys.
sammyk
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 05:14:22 PM
Quote
I just ran down the street in Portland following two girls and the camera crew.
The went to voodoo doughnuts (for a clue I think)   Police talked to producers because fans were running after the racers.
They thought someone was running out on a meal bill...  the team got into the van and drove off.

This is recipe for a Decoy operation.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 05:15:12 PM
That is what the vans are for!!   :funny:
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 05:46:59 PM
Do any of you that saw what looks like teams have descriptions? hair colors? clothing? something? what sort of donuts ...   :lol: ?
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Post by: apskip on May 14, 2008, 06:10:46 PM
I do not wish to divert attention from Portland but I have BIG NEWS from my brother-in-law Ray who works at the Auckland International Airport as reported by my sister who is a big Amazing Race fan after I asked about May 2:

I just checked with Ray and he said the Amazing Race team did arrive in Auckland, went into the city for the day and came back to the airport late that evening and departed.  He told me he saw Phil Keogan the kiwi who fronts the show waiting for the competitors.

This fits perfectly with my theory that teams would do a REST DAY or in this case from 0355 until late evening. Here's the kicker:

There won't be any layover in Sydney because there is a nonstop flight SQ282 leaving AKL 2355 arriving SIN at 0645 after a 10 hour 50 minute flight. This had to be the flight AR13 teams took out of Auckland. There isn't any other except to wait for good old LAN801 to come through on May 3 and depart at 0525 for Sydney. This puts teams in Singapore and able to catch SQ972 from SIN to BKK 1030 1155. Now teams can get PG913 1510 1630 BKK REP and arrive Angkor Wat late afternoon.
Title: Re: Just followed to racers to Voodoo Doughnuts in Portland
Post by: quetranza on May 14, 2008, 06:28:15 PM

I just ran down the street in Portland following two girls and the camera crew.
The went to voodoo doughnuts (for a clue I think)   Police talked to producers because fans were running after the racers.
They thought someone was running out on a meal bill...  the team got into the van and drove off.

I think the final is tomorrow am

I knew it!!!  Damn, should have waited for them!  Who needs a job anyway... :pull
Title: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: stacy on May 14, 2008, 06:39:02 PM
I was waiting to pick my boyfriend up at International arrivals around Noon today.  saw a young couple, very fit and attractive and then 2 sisters (they looked related) also young and wearing matching nike workout gear- they definitely stood out, then when a camera crew w/ tons of gear started filming them running thru the terminal, well that's when it clicked! the A.R!! i love the show and had NO idea they might be in PDX. so, my boyfriend saw them in customs and he thought they had come from Moscow before PDX.
Cool! can't wait to see it on TV.
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 06:47:12 PM
Can you recognize them from any of these pictures stacy? they are thumbnails, just click them to make them larger :)

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg298822.html#msg298822

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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 06:54:03 PM
I do not wish to divert attention from Portland but I have BIG NEWS from my brother-in-law Ray who works at the Auckland International Airport as reported by my sister who is a big Amazing Race fan after I asked about May 2:

I just checked with Ray and he said the Amazing Race team did arrive in Auckland, went into the city for the day and came back to the airport late that evening and departed.  He told me he saw Phil Keogan the kiwi who fronts the show waiting for the competitors.

This fits perfectly with my theory that teams would do a REST DAY or in this case from 0355 until late evening. Here's the kicker:

There won't be any layover in Sydney because there is a nonstop flight SQ282 leaving AKL 2355 arriving SIN at 0645 after a 10 hour 50 minute flight. This had to be the flight AR13 teams took out of Auckland. There isn't any other except to wait for good old LAN801 to come through on May 3 and depart at 0525 for Sydney. This puts teams in Singapore and able to catch SQ972 from SIN to BKK 1030 1155. Now teams can get PG913 1510 1630 BKK REP and arrive Angkor Wat late afternoon.
Great news apskips! what time late afternoon?
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: apskip on May 14, 2008, 06:55:46 PM
I was waiting to pick my boyfriend up at International arrivals around Noon today.  saw a young couple, very fit and attractive and then 2 sisters (they looked related) also young and wearing matching nike workout gear- they definitely stood out, then when a camera crew w/ tons of gear started filming them running thru the terminal, well that's when it clicked! the A.R!! i love the show and had NO idea they might be in PDX. so, my boyfriend saw them in customs and he thought they had come from Moscow before PDX.
Cool! can't wait to see it on TV.
stacy's report is totally consistent with my Europe to Portland flight studies because the incoming flight that fits is in fact LH468 FRA PDX 0945 1120. It may have been preceded by LH3189  Moscow-domodedorov FRA 0705 0825. I am going to check out some things about flights from Kazakhstan into Moscow(I already know that there are daily flights) to see how those would fit. It could work and beyond that it could be what they actually did.
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: patlini on May 14, 2008, 06:57:56 PM
a possible F/F for the win

so 2 teams on one flight, third team = guido edit???
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Post by: apskip on May 14, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
The travel time from Siem Reap to the entrance to Ankgor Wat is I believe less than 1 hour. That means they could have been there by about 1800. Or maybe some tasks were in the area but not at Angkor Wat. I don't know if Angkor Wat is open after 1800 but I'm sure somebody can check this before I can get to it.
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Post by: rzatki on May 14, 2008, 07:03:24 PM
I have never posted before but have loved TAR since season 1.

Just talked with a co-worker whose husband was hiking in the Columbia Gorge at about 2:30 pm and saw racing teams, vehicles and a helicopter in the vicinity of Bridge of the Gods. He wasn't sure what it was until she called him about the Portland rumor. Could it be the race?
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: stacy on May 14, 2008, 07:04:14 PM
i don't recognize the teams i saw from any of those pics- the couple (i am assuming that by the way- could be bro/ sis) she had dark hair, he had dark blond hair.  very fit and looked like the had just climbed a mtn. 
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 07:07:55 PM
Thanks stacy !! Were the 2 girls blond by any chance? we are missing some of the teams pictures but word is there were 2 blonds in pink.
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: stacy on May 14, 2008, 07:13:13 PM
Yes- sisters were blond!
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: KingCrimson88 on May 14, 2008, 07:19:29 PM
Could these be decoy teams?
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 07:19:44 PM
Yes- sisters were blond!
See we have reason to believe they did not make the final 6 or 7 teams but have no way to be certain, its based on what other people witnessed as far as teams go. Thanks stacy :gj:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 07:24:05 PM
It looks like it would be a good spot for a task:  Toll House Park

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/GEtollhousepark.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on May 14, 2008, 07:28:22 PM
 :snicker: FWIW

Bridge of the Gods (http://www.portofcascadelocks.org/bridge.htm)   :angel:

Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area (http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/)    :sucks

Columbia River Gorge WebCam (http://www.fsvisimages.com/cori1/cori1.html)    :wohoo:
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 07:37:04 PM
more from the wweek.com site in comments  (http://wweek.com/wwire/?p=11881). I suppose 13 - 1111 means 11 episodes *sigh*

Underwear Guy  writes on May 14th, 2008 4:48pm
**SPOILER**

I followed the girls, and the camera... I would bet money this was a decoy, Sammyk you nailed it. The girls got into a WRP van near the Voodoo Doughnuts, the were asking people along the way where Voodoo was... YET NO CLUE was to be found there. They all got into a van and drove off.

Beside, the International flight schedule would not have placed them in downtown.

What's confirmed is TAR is in down! The producers clip boards were in view. We could read 13 - 1111 on the sheet. This is RACE 13.

Tomorrow morning is the likely timing of the finish. Early am, no one around... lets guess Timberline, the Falls, Washington Park, no not the Tram.
 
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Post by: judym55555 on May 14, 2008, 08:11:10 PM
I work in Cascade Locks, and there is a zip line in place right now from the Bridge of the Gods to Thunder Island.  I don't know when they put it up, but it sure wasn't there yesterday!   :yess:  I got there in time to see the camera crews packing up and loading equipment into vans, but a fellow teacher saw two couples ride the zip line down to the island.  This was between 2:30-3:30 this afternoon.  There were helicopters circling the site, three camera crews at and around the bridge, and they apparently paid the owners of the Charburger restaurant to close for the day so they could secure the parking lot which overlooks the river and the zip line.  There were six yellow cabs at the parking lot where the access to the island is, along with more camera crews, and the officer that I talked to said they always stage it so that people don't know for sure how many couples are left.  Does that sound reasonable?
The other teacher talked to one of the cab drivers, who said he picked up two people at the airport from an overseas flight, took them to Newberg where they "ran around and looked for a clue", then drove them to Cascade Locks.  For some reason someone asked him if this was Fear Factor, but he said it was more like a scavenger hunt.  Apparently he has not actually seen Amazing Race himself, so didn't know anything about the usual process.
My speculation is Timberline Lodge for the finish?
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Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
I have never posted before but have loved TAR since season 1.

Just talked with a co-worker whose husband was hiking in the Columbia Gorge at about 2:30 pm and saw racing teams, vehicles and a helicopter in the vicinity of Bridge of the Gods. He wasn't sure what it was until she called him about the Portland rumor. Could it be the race?
Oh how sneaky would that be  :lol:?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 08:17:59 PM
Thunder Island

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/GEThunder.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on May 14, 2008, 08:20:07 PM
 :snicker:  FWIW

Newberg, OR (http://www.ci.newberg.or.us/)     :angel:

Timberline Lodge (http://www.timberlinelodge.com/)    :duno:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 14, 2008, 08:21:26 PM
And Rastaurant

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/GEThunderIslandjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: Julz on May 14, 2008, 08:24:06 PM
Hi Stacy,

I saw TAR teams today as well at PDX.  I drive the international buses at PDX but not today.  However, I was driving the terminal parking lot  buses today and saw a camera man /sound man  running after a very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack  and one of those TAR  clue cards (?)  in her hand just about the time  the Germany  flight  would have landed. They were getting a taxi here at PDX.  I had to keep  my  eyes on my driving  but a person in the bus said they were from The Amazing Race.

My  next  loop  around (20 minutes later),  I arrived  at the terminal  and  saw  more teams grabbing a taxi.  Fortunately  I was driving the Employee lot bus  and one of the supervisors  (who  got  on  camera & had to sign a TAR release  for TV)   confirmed that the teams  in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa  flight from Germany to Portland OR.    They were headed  up to Washington state.  He also said there were only  4 teams and perhaps  the other two teams  went up via  Seattle first -  but that of course is purely  speculation.
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: puddin on May 14, 2008, 08:33:55 PM


Merging with spoilers now.
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Post by: Boingo on May 14, 2008, 08:36:41 PM
Newberg is not that far from Portland.... but it's in the opposite direction from the Columbia Gorge (and airport).  hmmmmm......  :angel:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/NewbergPortland.jpg)
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Post by: mjriches2005 on May 14, 2008, 08:49:34 PM
 :yess:

Hi this is my first post here and I like the Amazing Race.  Anyway I only live 25min away in Sherwood just SW of Portland, which is near Newberg and if the TAR13 came by here this would be so amusing to me.  Maybe one of the tasks that would have took place in Newberg would involved one of the nearby wineries in the area.  I really hope so.

 ;)
Title: Re: Saw 2 teams at PDX this a.m.
Post by: gingerman28 on May 14, 2008, 08:51:40 PM
I was waiting to pick my boyfriend up at International arrivals around Noon today.  saw a young couple, very fit and attractive and then 2 sisters (they looked related) also young and wearing matching nike workout gear- they definitely stood out, then when a camera crew w/ tons of gear started filming them running thru the terminal, well that's when it clicked! the A.R!! i love the show and had NO idea they might be in PDX. so, my boyfriend saw them in customs and he thought they had come from Moscow before PDX.
Cool! can't wait to see it on TV.
stacy's report is totally consistent with my Europe to Portland flight studies because the incoming flight that fits is in fact LH468 FRA PDX 0945 1120. It may have been preceded by LH3189  Moscow-domodorow FRA 0705 0825. I am going to check out some things about flights from Kazakhstan into Moscow(I already know that there are daily flights) to see how those would fit. It could work and beyond that it could be what they actually did.

Moved over from another thread:

My  next  loop  around (20 minutes later),  I arrived  at the terminal  and  saw  more teams grabbing a taxi.  Fortunately  I was driving the Employee lot bus  and one of the supervisors  (who  got  on  camera & had to sign a TAR release  for TV)   confirmed that the teams  in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa  flight from Germany to Portland OR.    They were headed  up to Washington state.  He also said there were only  4 teams and perhaps  the other two teams  went up via  Seattle first -  but that of course is purely  speculation.

So apskip's notions fit the bill for teams going from FRA to PDX.  The question is where did they come from before arriving at FRA and was this just a connection or did teams do a task in Germany?
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Post by: pdxskiier on May 14, 2008, 11:48:48 PM
Pittock Mansion in the West hills of Portland ended up being the final location (for today).   The WRP crew vans and trucks kept leaving downtown one by one....  It just seemed a bit strange so... I followed.   Just as the sun set on a fantastic day, all of the WRP all arrived. By 8:30pm the final segment (for today) had been shot!  Too much security, could not get into this public park.

pittockmansion.com

3229 NW Pittock Dr Portland, OR 97210. 



Tomorrow is the last day for the parking permits on the MRP rigs.... 



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Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 12:02:16 AM
I want to sort of say "yeah we already knew that" ;)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 12:15:36 AM
pdxskiier, your information is partially correct only...

As I stated yesterday, RFF had the final location but due to concerns about race security we chose not to post the information at that time.

But at this point, since it was reported elsewhere, and because I am sure the race is over,  I will confirm that the Finale Site was the Pittock Mansion (http://pittockmansion.com/).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/PittochMansion.jpg)

See Map HERE (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pittock+mansion&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.160552,66.181641&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=45.524662,-122.717161&spn=0.014312,0.032315&z=15&iwloc=A&cbll=45.52464,-122.717146&panoid=ZaU61HxgcMClfSTesao5Kg).

I do not agree with your times however, as I do not believe that WRP "arrived at sunset". According to my information, the first team had completed the race well before then... ;)

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Post by: Chateau d If on May 15, 2008, 12:15:50 AM
Yes we did!   :tup:

Especially Peach

We were just not saying it so that WRP could finsih our favorite show in relative peace.
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Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 12:22:26 AM
Right, peach had the info yesterday but did not think that show should be ruined by having media and the mass tripping over the racers running to the finish line because of her love for the race, its not always about the spoiling.

peach  rocks  :sucks :jam:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 15, 2008, 12:26:39 AM
Kudos to you pdxskiier for your tenacity to snoop out the race.  I am truly envious of what you got to do today.  I hope you can write it up so we can roll around in the details!

It looks like WRP did not take heed the warning that Peach gave them to read up on what we knew.  They could have tried a little more stealth  :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Lovely GE map of Pittock Mansion from Chateau ...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/PorlandGEforpeach.jpg)



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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 12:38:58 AM
Thanks guys!  :kuss:

I also have some spoiler info on decoy teams that I hope to be able to post for you all tomorrow, but am waiting for an okay on that first...
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Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 12:43:17 AM
Thanks guys!  :kuss:

I also have some spoiler info on decoy teams that I hope to be able to post for you all tomorrow, but am waiting for an okay on that first...
*pushes peach to post it now before someone somewhere posts it*

We love ya peach :<3
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 12:47:48 AM
Sorry, but it was sent to me privately, and I need to be sure it is okay to share first.

Sometimes it sucks to have morals.... :lol:

Tomorrow is another day!  And I love y'all too!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 07:47:18 AM
Okay guys, I AM able to share some more info w/ you!

With many thanks to our incredible  Portland photographer who has been hard at work on our behalf!!

Quote
I'm pleased to report that I saw a male-male team in downtown Portland 
this evening (peach: that would be 5/14) at about 6:00 local time. A cameraman and a sound man 
were following them.

I saw them head west along Alder, then south on 10th, then east on 
Morrison. They asked for directions at the food carts that occupy the 
parking lot north of Alder, and they looked at a metal map kiosk at 
the corner of 10th and Morrison.

They looked to be mid to late 20s or even maybe early 30s. Both were 
wearing khaki trousers; the taller one was slightly heavyset and had 
reddish curly hair and was wearing a baseball cap and a blue T-shirt. 
The other had blonde to sandy blonde hair and no hat. Both had 
backpacks.

What struck me, though, was how slowly they were moving compared to my 
expections. They certainly were not running. I don't know if this 
means they are a decoy, or that they are real but exhausted, or that 
they are real and in last place, or what.

I often buy magazines at a store on 9th & Alder, so I asked the 
cashier there if I knew anything about TAR in Portland. He said, "Oh, 
is that what that was?" I said, "Is that what WHAT was?" He said he 
had seen a male  and a female plus two-man crew also proceeding along 
Alder. I asked him when that was. He said about two hours previously, 
which puts it at around 4:00 p.m. I asked him if he recalled any other 
details; he said he did not, except that the girl was pretty. :-/

I did not have a camera with me, but where they were is VERY central 
location; and while Portland is considerably less densely occupied 
than, say, LA or even Denver, I will be very surprised if no one here 
managed to take a reasonable picture of at least one of the teams.

I asked our source if these guys could maybe be who he saw?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/frats.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/frat2.jpg)

And so sadly, since we don't even know their names yet (that seems so wrong somehow!), he replied:

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Oooh! Yes, I do think so! Their relative heights and hair colors match!

Sad because this screams decoy to me...and interestingly, I believe it may be decoy being run AFTER the actual finale MAT arrival...

More later on...






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Post by: patlini on May 15, 2008, 10:27:19 AM
you rock Peach I was glad that they were able to finish in peace
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Post by: quetranza on May 15, 2008, 11:09:32 AM
Cool!  Pittock Mansion is a great site for the finale, and the Gorge is perfect for physical tasks.  Glad Portland finally made the Race.
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Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 12:33:39 PM
Cool!  Pittock Mansion is a great site for the finale, and the Gorge is perfect for physical tasks.  Glad Portland finally made the Race.
You can still use your detective skills and help us out here quetranza :spy: , we have the sighting of teams but not what they were wearing or clearer descriptions, namely the F/F & M/F seen running around the donut place, so maybe you can ask locals if they recall while its still fresh in their memories?
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 15, 2008, 02:50:50 PM
Pictures, pictures, pictures, who had the pictures?  With just about every living soul carrying a cell phone with a camera built in, why not any pictures that are half-way visable?  More than we have, I mean.  I may be the only living being on this planet without a cell phone, but I carry my trusty D80 Nikon with me just about everywhere (except I'm never there when the TAR teams are there)
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Post by: Neobie on May 15, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
Kudos to the Portland team! (Though I feel so "at the bottom of the totem pole" when it comes to breaking spoiler news...) :neener:

Apskip, would your brother-in-law know when in the "late evening" did the teams come in? If not a TBC, it could also have been a really short leg, one that took until maybe lunchtime racing around Auckland?

And... The Spoiler Yellow Line's longer than any other season of spoiling we've been through! We've got hold of these racers for all but, four legs I believe?
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 15, 2008, 03:00:57 PM
OK.  We've got the beginning city but not the actual location.  And we have the final city AND final location.  We have most of the other spots; not the tasks yet, but the locations (we think)

The ONE big GAP now lies between New Delhi and Frankfurt for the period May 6 to May 12 with just a sighting at Dubai airport which may only have been a connection to somewhere else.

So anybody have any inside scoop of where our teams disappeared to?
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Post by: apskip on May 15, 2008, 04:12:08 PM
Pictures, pictures, pictures, who had the pictures?  With just about every living soul carrying a cell phone with a camera built in, why not any pictures that are half-way visable?  More than we have, I mean.  I may be the only living being on this planet without a cell phone, but I carry my trusty D80 Nikon with me just about everywhere (except I'm never there when the TAR teams are there)

I don't own a cell phone and although I do own a camera I rarely use it. It slows you down too much when you are traveling.  There are other on the planet, maybe only about 5.5 billion of them who do not own cell phones.
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Post by: quetranza on May 15, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
Cool!  Pittock Mansion is a great site for the finale, and the Gorge is perfect for physical tasks.  Glad Portland finally made the Race.
You can still use your detective skills and help us out here quetranza :spy: , we have the sighting of teams but not what they were wearing or clearer descriptions, namely the F/F & M/F seen running around the donut place, so maybe you can ask locals if they recall while its still fresh in their memories?

Wish I could, but I'm stuck at work today.. bleh
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Post by: jeber78 on May 15, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
Hi everyone... James from tar10 here. You guys by far do the best job of covering race out of all the blogs. I look forward to it everytime they start running. I can't wait for a new season! :wohoo:   


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Post by: TexasLady on May 15, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
Thanks for your comments, the team here is amazing. Welcome to RFF James! We'll look forward to your input about the race as well.

 :welcome:
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Post by: puddin on May 15, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Hi everyone... James from tar10 here. You guys by far do the best job of covering race out of all the blogs. I look forward to it everytime they start running. I can't wait for a new season! :wohoo:  



Nice avatar James!  :jumpy: :hithere:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 15, 2008, 05:56:32 PM
Hey James, remember this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Parisinspring/TAR12%20racer%20party/TAR12racerparty059.jpg)
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Post by: jeber78 on May 15, 2008, 06:10:54 PM
haha that was a fun night in the LBC! I remember jonathon showed up and got really drunk and then wouldn't leave tk alone... tk looked so annoyed haha
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 15, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
:welcome3: James!

So glad to see you here, and many thanks for the kind words!  We'll look forward to your help and input on the race! :hello2:
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Post by: manilaguna on May 15, 2008, 08:02:53 PM
wow! it's jeber from tyler & james of season 10! cool! u were pretty good in your season james!! I can't wait for the new season as well
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Post by: nikita on May 16, 2008, 04:45:31 AM
The travel time from Siem Rep to the entrance to Ankgor Wat is I believe less than 1 hour. That means they could have been there by about 1800. Or maybe some tasks were in the area but not at Angkor Wat. I don't know if Angkor Wat is open after 1800 but I'm sure somebody can check this before I can get to it.


Travel time to Angkor Temple complex is 10 15mins from Siem Reap. The Temple complex closes at 18:00
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 16, 2008, 09:35:47 AM
Looks as though Phil may have been speaking somewhere near Toronto on 5/15--have asked for clarification.

Not that we needed it :lol:, but it provides additional confirmation of the race ending on 5/14 if this is correct.

http://www.definingsomeday.com/2008/05/dinner-with-host-of-amazing-race.html

ETA: after clarifying the above, turns out this was NOT on 515/08:

Quote
Elle said...
It was not 5/15/08. In fact, it was more than a year ago (5/10/07)...and the message has stuck with me!
I heard Phil speak in London, Ontario.



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Post by: puddin on May 16, 2008, 09:52:03 AM
On Flight Between Bangkok and India (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/sonicbridges/1/1210064700.html)
Tuesday, May 06, 2008  05:05
On the flight I met the cast and crew of next falls "Amazing Race." You give one couple your guidebook after being told that they and the camera crew are filming a travel documentary. One cameraman says it' s just a pilot and will probably come out on Discovery Channel. But when you go to hand your book to the gentleman and you ask him more about what the specific theme or title of the documentary is, he responds by putting on a cautious and direct face then points at a small black travel bag with orange and yellow stripes down the middle. I shrug my shoulders saying, "i don't know what that is." He then discreetly opens the top zipper and pulls out a black and yellow ticket just enough for me to make out the large bold letters that spell "Race" and I got it. He shook his head knowingly and we winked at each other and I returned to my seat. It all made sense then. And I could easily pick out who the crew were and the various couples. Some were partners, some were family, some were friends. They all seemed to be slightly frantic and on edge and some of them were trying desperately to exchange dollars for Rupees while still on the flight. A pair of young jewish boys asked me for some and I told them they could just go to an ATM at the airport. One replied with, "We won't have enough time." I was shocked by that. Who doesn't have an extra minute for an ATM when vacationing to a foreign country? I knew then something was up
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 10:15:49 AM
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In Route to India on flight IC 854.

I think this will help confirm some of our other info!!

The Air India flight leaves Bangkok at 1:30 pm.  That defines which flight out of Siem Reap they needed to use: 
Bangkok Airways # 904 leaving at 9:50 am and arriving in Bangkok at 10:45 am.

This all defines that the Siem Reap leg ended in late afternoon (say 3 to 6 pm) on May 4th.
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Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 10:49:55 AM
I have made a few minor adjustments in the Timetable to the writing for 5/5 departure from REP to BKK and then DEL. Flights PG904 and IC854 were already there.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 10:56:38 AM
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5/5
Siem Reap to Bangkok airport
Most probable flights out will be PG904 REP BKK 0950 1045 or PG906 REP BKK 1250 1400 or PG914 1430 1540 although there are 2 more later. The news that there is a known 4 hour layover in Bangkok is interesting.

Choice of these 3 nonstop flights form BKK to DEL:
IC854 BKK DEL 1330 1615 or
TG315 1745 2045 or
9W063 1825 2130

The first pair has 2 3/4 hours between PG204 and IC854, so that doesn't fit. the second pair has 3 3/4 hours between PG906 and TG315, so that is an excellent fit. the third pair has 2 3/4 hours between PG914 and 9W063, so that doesn't fit. It looks like our flight connection is:

PG906 1250 1400 REP BKK
TG315 1745 2045 BKK DEL

Arrival into downtown Delhi would be after 10pm. I am going to guess that they run into an hours of operation restriction fairly quickly.

This is what you had.  Like I said, "I think this will help confirm some of our other info!!"  It needed to be pinned down.  It's not like it was already correct.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 16, 2008, 11:17:59 AM
From newman 44 at this forum (http://tinyurl.com/4wwpbw) :
My friends have been living in Brazil for the last few months and this is an excerpt from her blog posted on April 26th:

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For those of you who are unfamiliar with the reality TV show, The Amazing Race, it is a competition where people travel all over the world in a hectic rat race to come in first and win the big prize. I..m actually not all that familiar with the show myself but I..m pretty sure they were on my airplane.

This situation happened completely by chance. From Cordoba, we were to have a stop over in Porto Alegre another stop in Sao Paulo and then arrive in Salvador in the afternoon. Because of fog, the airport in Porto Alegre was closed, so we had to detour to Rio and from there, fly to Salvador, which was actually much more efficient and convenient.

At the airport in Rio, we noticed several film crews and people in teams of two, often wearing matching outfits. These two girls from Texas (according to their t-shirts anyway) were wearing matching black biker shorts, bright pink tank tops and a ton of make-up. I think the t-shirt was pretty accurate. Anyway, we noticed them being interviewed by the film crews, acting out dramatic situations and so-on. When it came time to board we talked to some of them and lent one of them our brazil book, although they didn..t give us many details about what they were doing. There was a delay in taking off and one team asked if they could move closer to the front. As soon as they did, all the other contestants tried to do the same. It was kind of annoying becuase I think it delayed our take-off even more. Anyway, at that point, we were pretty confident that if it wasn..t The Amazing Race, it was an amazing race of some sort.
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Post by: puddin on May 16, 2008, 11:38:52 AM
Fixed!! lol
The girl/girl teams are getting confusing! Do all girl/girl teams wear pink :lol: ?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
This says that those teams were flying in on Gol Transportes Aereos flight # 1888 which left Rio on  Thu - Apr 24, at 6:45 am and arrived in Salvador at 8:45 am.

ETA:  see better fit below
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Post by: Neobie on May 16, 2008, 11:55:51 AM
The immediate previous flight from any airport in Rio de Janeiro to Salvador is GOL 1626 from 0040 to 0240, which suggests they only arrived in Rio airport early Thursday morning (after midnight and before 6.30am).

Flight time from Sao Paulo to Rio is at its shortest 50min, we'll probably have to look into the modes of transportation in between to see if there's a chance for a Pit Stop anytime before Salvador.

(Why Rio?)

Thanks Puddin for continually updating Page One!

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-35.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 16, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Unless they were starting from Rio then we know of several weather related delays that day...maybe Fog elsewhere accounted for the change? If there was a change....
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 12:16:57 PM
I have a better fit to the flight the Pinks were on into Salvador:   Gol Transportes Aereos flight # 1600 which left Rio on  Thu - Apr 24, at 10:30 am and arrived in Salvador at 12:30 pm.

I think the tourist was on a flight from Cordoba, Argentina to Porto Alegre:  G3 7496 which was scheduled to land there at 7:30 am and diverted to Rio.  That would get there at about 9:12 am.  Then the tourist would see the teams in the airport while waiting for the 10:30 am departure of G3 1600.

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6995/indexnz0.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexnz0.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 12:27:36 PM
I think the Pinks in Rio is just a connection, not a task location.  There are lots of flights from Sao Paulo to Rio that would get them there in time to be seen by the tourist. 

They just did not get the best flight from Sao Paulo to Salvador.
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Post by: Neobie on May 16, 2008, 12:46:43 PM
But G3 1941 flies from Sao Paulo Guarulhos to Salvador from 10.05am to 12.20pm. Would the Pinks have missed that one and made it in time for a flight, from Rio, at 10.30am? (This is in reference to G3 1600 leaving Rio at 10.30am and arriving Salvador at 12.30pm.)

Are all earlier flights (there are quite a few) full, or is passing through Rio is mandatory on the race in some way, be it a clue location or charter flight location...?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 16, 2008, 12:53:24 PM
For Neobie:  here is where I found the 1888 flight (but it's not the one that fits anyway).

Yeah, I don't know for sure either way if they do tasks in Sao Paulo or Rio or both?  And chartered flights can always enter the mix.

The model that I am trying to fit is they start sometime in the morning in Sao Paulo.  And as usual, some teams get to begin earlier than others.

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Post by: puddin on May 16, 2008, 02:57:03 PM
Thanks for the maps Neobie! They do not go unnoticed (http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_13/2008_May_15_portland)!! :jumpy: :<3
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Post by: gingerman28 on May 16, 2008, 09:55:16 PM
We're still looking to fill that gap between May 6 and May 13.  Two stops could be made in this time period.,  But where?

We have them in Dubai Airport and then probably at the Frankfurt airport before flying across the pond to Portland.
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Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 10:40:25 PM
(Why Rio?)
Neobie, there are multiple possible reasons, including these two primary ones:
1. Rio is a major international airport and could have been a connection point for some teams. There are several nonstop flights between Sao Paulo and Salvador, but some teams could have gotten a poor travel agent who put them on a connecting flight or the timing of the connection was better than the nonstops at that specific tiem of day when they were ready to go.

2. It is also possible that there was a TBC or partial leg in Sao Paulo, with the remainder in Rio de Janeiro.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 18, 2008, 01:16:04 PM
Here is a company that makes wooden bikes in Santa Cruz, Bolivia:  Holzkönig (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ID5uyICvHb4J:www.galeon.com/holzk/bicicletas.htm+%22bicicletas+de+madera%22+bolivia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a)

They have several variations of frames.

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Post by: password on May 18, 2008, 02:18:29 PM
I heard rumors of the Amazing Race 13 teams touching down in Colombo,Sri Lanka
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 18, 2008, 02:37:58 PM
I heard rumors of the Amazing Race 13 teams touching down in Colombo,Sri Lanka

:welcome2: password!

Want to tell us more? As in where did you hear the rumor, is there a link to a place we can read about it, if it is a private source do you trust them, and so on?

And MOST importantly --WHEN would that have been?

Anything more that you can share will be a huge help!

 :hithere:

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Post by: apskip on May 18, 2008, 02:39:38 PM
I heard rumors of the Amazing Race 13 teams touching down in Colombo,Sri Lanka

Airline flight schedules suggest that this is unlikely. There is only one nonstop from BKK CMB - UL422 2110 2255
It connects in Colombo with UL195 - CMB DEL 1510 1845, the only nonstop on that route. That would mean staying in Bangkok for about 9 hours longer(than the first nonstop flight BKK DEL departs at 1330) before catching the first flight, then taking 21 hours to do the trip. that's a total of 30 hours when they could fly nonstop BKK DEL in about 4.5 hours. Who would do that unless they had trouble en route and were diverted to Colombo?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 18, 2008, 02:50:10 PM
But it wouldn't have had to be a nonstop from Bangkok, right? This could have even occured after a Delhi leg, perhaps?

**waiting eagerly to hear more from password**
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Post by: password on May 18, 2008, 07:10:41 PM
I am sri Lankan so i hear news from my home country and they said "The Amazing Race" was being flimed there.
It could be the amazing race asia or a local version of the show.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 18, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
Hi password!  Great to have your help.

Most of all:  Do you know when the filming happened?
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Post by: apskip on May 18, 2008, 07:23:13 PM
But it wouldn't have had to be a nonstop from Bangkok, right? This could have even occured after a Delhi leg, perhaps?

**waiting eagerly to hear more from password**
Flights have to originate in Bangkok because the teams were spotted there and because it is the major route out of Siem Reap.

Maybe it could have happened after the Delhi leg, but when you go through Dubai you are not heading for Colombo, which is 2052 miles in the wrong direction from where AR13 was headed(Europe and then the U.S.) with only 6 days to make that happen. The quickest flight is 7 hours 25 minutes. Timing precludes the race having gone Delhi to Colombo and then Colombo to  Dubai. The chances that they backtracked to Colombo after Dubai and slim indeed.
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Post by: RichInOz on May 19, 2008, 01:19:38 AM
I really doubt that they would go to Colombo. Recent violence in Sri Lanka makes it a bit of a risk. Bit of a shame really cause it would make a change from India all the time.
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Post by: apskip on May 19, 2008, 06:45:51 AM
Also, let us not forget that AR6 went to Colombo before going into the highlands of Sri Lanka.
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Post by: puddin on May 19, 2008, 09:38:26 AM
Yup sure enough I put this in the wrong thread  :lol:

Heres a follow up from JonLover :<3 @entermyworld.heavenforum  (http://entermyworld.heavenforum.com/spoilers-corner-f1/tar-13-spoilers-t211-15.htm#38913) from the Dubai blogger:

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Saturday, May 10, 2008
Long Weekend

I figuratively had a long weekend. I travelled around the whole of United Arab Emirates in one day. Driving was not that fun but by passing the great views of the dessert, I can say I had a memorable weekend.

We went to Abu Dhabi first to fetch some friends, then we headed to Al Ain. The breathtaking views of the Green Mubazzarah and Jabeel Hafeet mad our trip forgetless. On our way down from the top of Jabeel Hafeet, we saw some cameramen along the road. I was excited to see them anticipating it was the Amazing Race but it was only a shooting of a local show.

Then we had a camp at Fujairah and spent the night there before going back to Dubai by passing Ras Al Khaimah, Umm Al Qiunn and Sharjah first.

I recieved a letter from a someone who read my blog about the sighting of the Amazing Race at the Dubai International Airport. I did not know that people around the world will be talking about that entry as described by the letter sender. Hi, JonLover of entermyworld.heavenforum.

Well, to answer the questions raised by JonLover, I am not also in the position to confirm whether the sighting was really the Amazing Race productions or racers. It was only told to me by a friend who is also reliable. And to make matters clear, we were not that really drank when we were talking about it. We were in our right senses. I asked my friend again if it was true and he guaranteed me that it was also told by his friend who really witnessed the commotion.

My friend's friend is woring for Terminal 2 but that time he saw the the racers apparently was in Terminal 1. He just saw from about 200 meters away people who are running towards the customs. Some of them are holding boom mikes and cameras. Most of them are carrying heavy back packs.

He just asked some airport staffs at the Dubai Duty Free what was the commotion is all about. From them, he got the information that it was a shooting of a travel and documentary show by a network based in the US. But they were thinking it was a filming of the Amazing Race because they seemed to be outrunning each other.

I hope this will answer all your queries and I will send this also to your e-mail.
 
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Post by: selwyn on May 19, 2008, 02:38:15 PM
I've spoken to people within the industry who had direct involvement with The Amazing Race in New Zealand.

They definitely did a leg here, roughly the dates I mention earlier (Apr 30 - May 2) but I think it may have run a day late. I am not totally sure where they traveled, but it was out of Auckland south into the North Island (this would fit with Tauranga or Rotorua, or both). And I have no idea where they pit-stopped.

There were as many a 10 local crews on the job, plus the standard travelling crews. This was definitely the CBS Amazing Race, not a localised variant (the Asian version has been here twice in the past).
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Post by: puddin on May 19, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
Needless to say, you made our day selwyn  :wohoo:

Thank you so much !!!!!!! :jam:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2008, 02:51:10 PM
Thank you SO much for sharing this, selwyn!

This is truly fabulous news, because I was heartbroken to think we were coming so close and yet might miss out on a NZ leg.

But now I am really really looking forward to this leg! :hearts:

Back to my GlowWorm Cave (http://www.waitomo.com/glowworm-caves-tour.aspx)!!
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Post by: password on May 19, 2008, 02:54:51 PM
I heard through the new news from Sri lanka that the second leg started there.
I now believe it is a locaized version of the show that is in Sri Lanka because, it seems rare for CBS to do two legs there with all   that violence.

I am also hearing rumors that atleast two european countries (no names) were visited. Is that true?
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 03:02:38 PM
About the New Zealand leg:

The flight that we know they take from Santiago at 10:45 pm April 30th would put teams into Auckland at 3:55 am on May 2nd.

Apskip needs to interrogate his friend to find out if the evening departure out Auckland was really on May 2nd.  There is plenty of time to still get to Cambodia by late morning of May 4th.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2008, 03:23:15 PM
About the New Zealand leg:

The flight that we know they take from Santiago at 10:45 pm April 30th would put teams into Auckland at 3:55 am on May 2nd.

Apskip needs to interrogate his friend to find out if the evening departure out Auckland was really on May 2nd.  There is plenty of time to still get to Cambodia by late morning of May 4th.

Or maybe what apskip's brother-in-law saw was production leaving a day ahead to get a jump on the teams. We know this does happen from previous races.

Is there a way teams can actually arrive in Cambodia on 5/4 and still make it to our sites in time? If so, we would have plenty of time with all day the 2nd and the 3rd in NZ and then 5/4 as part travel day. Otherwise they are down to 24-36 hours max in NZ which seems tight.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 04:42:46 PM
Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).
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Post by: selwyn on May 19, 2008, 04:51:02 PM
My informants also tell me that at least one team was quite a way behind at the end of the NZ leg. So it's possible that not all teams land in Cambodia the same time.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 08:12:18 PM
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*I just checked with Ray and he said the Amazing Race team did arrive in Auckland, went into the city for the day and came back to the airport late that evening and departed.  He told me he saw Phil Keogan the kiwi who fronts the show waiting for the competitors.
*This fits perfectly with my theory that teams would do a REST DAY or in this case from 0355 until late evening

I think what happened here is that the Teams finished checking-in around sundown on may 2nd and so Phil with some production went to the Auckland airport to make the 10:45 flight to Singapore (then Bangkok then Siem Reap).  Then the racers begin the next leg in the morning of May 3rd.  They can drive back to Auckland and catch the afternoon flight combinations to Siem Reap.

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Post by: georgiapeach on May 19, 2008, 08:23:15 PM
oooh I like that! It works, doesn't it!  :yess:

Thanks, Chateau!  :jumpy:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 08:44:12 PM
Thank Brooke.  She makes the music.

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Post by: apskip on May 19, 2008, 10:29:08 PM
About the New Zealand leg:

The flight that we know they take from Santiago at 10:45 pm April 30th would put teams into Auckland at 3:55 am on May 2nd.

Apskip needs to interrogate his friend to find out if the evening departure out Auckland was really on May 2nd.  There is plenty of time to still get to Cambodia by late morning of May 4th.

CHATEAU, the information from my brother-in-law is extremely specific. He does after all work at Auckland International Airport and knows the difference between May 2 and any other day. He doesn't know what the teams look like but he knows what happened. I do know if he observed all of it himself because he only works one shift, but the peple in the know at Auckland International Airport undoubtedly shared information about such an important visit to New Zealand.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 11:52:12 PM
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I do know if he observed

Are you missing a 'not' ?
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Post by: nikita on May 20, 2008, 04:34:14 AM
Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).



I was on PG903 flight on May 4 and it was 10 minutes late. I did not notice any teams. I did see a camera man loitering at Passport Control in Siem Reap Airport... 

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Post by: georgiapeach on May 20, 2008, 08:03:27 AM
Thanks so much nikita! Every bit of info helps!

But now that we know TAR was in Auckland, we need to take another look at this post about Tauranga from mez:

Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg300434.html#msg300434

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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 09:07:18 AM
Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).


There are many other possibilities than these that should be considered:

1. If WRP wanted to find a different route on Friday night, May 2 to separate Phil from the teams and parellel the nonstop flight from AKL to SIN and then connecting to get to BKK by mid-morning, in addition to SQ282/SQ970 2355 0645 AKL SIN there is
AKL HKG NZ39 2330 0645 connecting in Hong Kong with HKG BKK CX713 0855 1035.
May 4 BKK REP  PG903 0800 0900 is the connection to Siem Reap for incoming SQ970. Unless CX713 arrives early, connection to   PG905 1100 1220 will not be possible and those teams would have to take   PG913 0310 0430

2. Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north? I can't think of a good reason since they have this combination(note that we are now Saturday May 3 so this causes negatives for normal flight schedules):
AKL SYD LAN801 0525 0705  or  QF40 0550 0730  or  NZ101 0700 0830  
QF81 SYD ADL 0930 1115 continuing on the same flight
QF81 ADL SIN 1220 1830
TG410 SIN BKK 2040 2200
May 4   PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900

3. The early afternoon option of nonstop AKL BKK TG419 is a good one if teams waited that long. Almost equally good is
AKL SYD QF790 1325 1450
SYD BKK QF301 1635 2255
May 4  PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900

Those are the logical possibilities. The reports of a team trailing behind out of New Zealand could mean that some teams went Friday night and at least one on Saturday morning.



























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Post by: Chateau d If on May 20, 2008, 11:09:52 AM
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Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north? I can't think of a good reason since they have this combination

Apskip, I think you have lost the thread.  Peach asked this:

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Is there a way teams can actually arrive in Cambodia on 5/4 and still make it to our sites in time? If so, we would have plenty of time with all day the 2nd and the 3rd in NZ and then 5/4 as part travel day. Otherwise they are down to 24-36 hours max in NZ which seems tight.

She is asking for flights so that teams would have plenty of time with all day the 2nd and the 3rd in NZ.  You don't have to think of a good reason why  teams would wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north.  Good reason is already given:  "for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg)"

The objective is to maximize the time for the leg so that we can begin fitting in likely tasks and locations in New Zealand.

The flights I posted achieve that while the ones you show would have teams spending the time in transit.  This imposes an artificial constraint on the amount of time we have to work with.  The consequence of having an incorrectly applied constraint is that it causes valid options of tasks and locations to be dismissed.  I hope you can see the importance of this.
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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 01:21:32 PM
CHATEAU, you answer the questions you want to and leave it to me to select those I want to answer. If you can't undersstand the relevance of what I do, then tough luck.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 20, 2008, 01:45:33 PM
Well, you asked the question   :waves:

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Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north?
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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).

I was on PG903 flight on May 4 and it was 10 minutes late. I did not notice any teams. I did see a camera man loitering at Passport Control in Siem Reap Airport... 

Let's work backwards here. In order to be seen at Angkor Wat late morning of Sunday May 4, then PG905 BKK REP 1100 1220 arrives too late. And Nikita assures us that no teams were on PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900. The only other possibilities to arrive that morning is SQ5026 SIN REP 1025 1135 (clearly too late). Arrivals on QV512 from Vientiane at 0925, VN809 from HoChiMinh City at 0945, and MU745 from NNG (Nanning China) at 1030 all have no possibility of morning connections in from Singapore through those places and the same would be true from BKK in addition to the fact that it makes no sense to travel other than the short direct route BKK REP.

Add all of that up and my conlcusion is that the teams that were sighted by the photographer had to be in Siem Rep the evening of May 3. There is no way to get there in time on May 4 if we believe Nikita's eyewitness report (which I obviously do but others apparently do not). In combination with previous information, this means that nobody leaving Auckland after midnight turning from May 2 to May 3 would get to Siem Reap in time.

Back that up to Auckland and here's what you get:
May 2 AKL SIN SQ282 2355 0645+1/May 3 SIN BKK SQ970 0845 1010, then any of these flight on BangkokAirways BKK REP:
   PG905 1100 1220  or  PG913 1510 1430  PG907 1740 1900  or  PG909 1820 1940  
or
May 2 AKL HKG NZ39 2330 0645+1/May 3 HKG BKK CX713 0855 1035, then the same flights shown above except not PG905.

That's it. End of story. Teams have to depart Auckland on Friday night May 2 if they are to be at Ankgor Wat in the late morning of Sunday May 4. The only possible alternative, going by road overnight the roughly 300 miles east from Bangkok to Siem Reap, is not something that previous Amazing Races have allowed.
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Post by: michael on May 20, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
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That's it. End of story. Teams have to depart Auckland on Friday night May 2


according to you anyways
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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 06:43:46 PM
Michael, can I ask what sources in New Zealand are you providing to RFF? I thought so, so you had best read and learn.

NEW INFORMATION FROM MY BROTHER-IN-LAW CONCERNING MAY 2

"I definitely know Phil Keoghan was at the airport with a senior management staff member and possibly an assistant of Phil's in attendance, plus two officers from our division. They had a photo op which appeared in our in-house staff mag a couple of days ago.
I did not see, but was assured by others on the relieved shift, that the AR teams were in the city and due to fly out that night. As I was not further involved with that side of things - My duties that night involved communications and boarding announcing, I did not see, nor did I hear anything further. As I had no reason to disbelieve my colleagues, I assumed the info was valid. However, there is the possibility assumptions where made..... so now I will have to investigate further."

So further insights may be anticipated, but it may be a few days. One thing is pretty clear, as in his previous report. That is the departure of the AR13 teams from Auckland on the evening of May 2.
 


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Post by: michael on May 20, 2008, 06:48:39 PM
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Michael, can I ask what sources in New Zealand are you providing to RFF? I thought so, so you had best read and learn.

uhh don't tell me what to do :)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 20, 2008, 07:25:00 PM

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Apskip:  In combination with previous information, this means that nobody leaving Auckland after midnight turning from May 2 to May 3 would get to Siem Reap in time.

Well, noooo !   :funny:

This flight is just as good as the last one I found that gave a day and half for activities on Auckland: 

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Continue with Emirates 433 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 8:05 pm and arriving in Singapore at 1:50 am
Fly Jetstar Asia 595 leaving Singapore on May 4th at 6:00 am and arriving in Siem Reap at 7:05 am.

And regarding nikita's piece of information, it's not that I don't believe it.  It's a logical thing:  Absence of seeing something does not prove its non-existence.

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Post by: puddin on May 20, 2008, 07:33:29 PM
just butting in here another fwiw

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Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Just to catch up....
So I just got back into Thailand from Cambodia.... which is why i haven't posted in a while. Ends up that Cambodia is not a telecommunications mecca. Anyways, everything has kinda been a whirlwind. Covered 3 countries in 2 weeks and it kinda feels like we are on "The Amazing Race".... and i mean literally. Yesterday we were in Angkor Wat (more of that story later... it is AMAZING... you should look up pictures... seriously a Wonder of the Ancient world--- i thought better than the stuff i saw in Rome) The Amazing Race was filming at Angkor the same day we were there. AND THEN... we end up at the airport to fly to Bangkok from Cambodia... and who was on our airplane.... thats right.... 3 teams competing on the next season of the Amazing Race. We are sitting there and then all the sudden all these camera and sound guys are filming everything. And the producer guy was sitting in the seat right behind me and vida. CRAZY!! So now we consider ourselves official unofficial cast members. And before all this started I was telling vida that i thought it felt like we were on the amazing race.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 20, 2008, 09:02:54 PM
Okay, so what they saw on May 5th at Angkor Wat was Teams starting their next leg.  Maybe one clue to find but then it's off to the airport.  Remember, there are teams on Bangkok Airways 924 leaving Siem Reap at 9:50 am and arriving in Bangkok at 10:45 am based on the other flight spotting (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301576.html#msg301576) on the way to Delhi.  Here are all the flights to Bangkok:
#            leaves       arrives
PG 924  9:50 am    10:45 am
PG 906 12:50 pm   2:00 pm
PG 914 2:30 pm     3:40 pm
PG 908 7:35 pm     8:45 pm
PG 910 8:15 pm     9:25 pm

Did we determine that all the teams are on the same flight from Bangkok to Delhi?  At least some were spotted on Air India flight 854 that leaves Bangkok at 1:30 pm.
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Post by: puddin on May 20, 2008, 10:30:22 PM
 :duno: I bet peach will ask  :lol: ....so what are the odds they saw the same 3 teams?

The Air India flight 854 blogger

*And I could easily pick out who the crew were and the various couples
*Some were partners,
*some were family,
*some were friends
*give one couple your guidebook/when you go to hand your book to the gentleman
*A pair of young jewish boys

And the newest blogger above says 3 teams no specifics
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Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 10:31:37 PM
Jetstar Airways does exist as a airline and it does fly 3K 595 SIN REP at 0600 0705 since their own website says so. Other more global airline websites typically very useful for the type of work I do do not recognize the existence of Jetstar Airways on their systems.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 20, 2008, 10:38:40 PM
Check again.  it's Jetstar Asia.  Not Jetstar Airways.
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1303/indexno5.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexno5.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 20, 2008, 10:44:45 PM
:duno: I bet peach will ask  :lol: ....so what are the odds they saw the same 3 teams?


She knows me too well!  :-[ :-[

Message already sent! :nuala:
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Post by: nikita on May 21, 2008, 05:56:27 AM
Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).

I was on PG903 flight on May 4 and it was 10 minutes late. I did not notice any teams. I did see a camera man loitering at Passport Control in Siem Reap Airport... 

Let's work backwards here. In order to be seen at Angkor Wat late morning of Sunday May 4, then PG905 BKK REP 1100 1220 arrives too late. And Nikita assures us that no teams were on PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900. The only other possibilities to arrive that morning is SQ5026 SIN REP 1025 1135 (clearly too late). Arrivals on QV512 from Vientiane at 0925, VN809 from HoChiMinh City at 0945, and MU745 from NNG (Nanning China) at 1030 all have no possibility of morning connections in from Singapore through those places and the same would be true from BKK in addition to the fact that it makes no sense to travel other than the short direct route BKK REP.

Add all of that up and my conlcusion is that the teams that were sighted by the photographer had to be in Siem Rep the evening of May 3. There is no way to get there in time on May 4 if we believe Nikita's eyewitness report (which I obviously do but others apparently do not). In combination with previous information, this means that nobody leaving Auckland after midnight turning from May 2 to May 3 would get to Siem Reap in time.

Back that up to Auckland and here's what you get:
May 2 AKL SIN SQ282 2355 0645+1/May 3 SIN BKK SQ970 0845 1010, then any of these flight on BangkokAirways BKK REP:
   PG905 1100 1220  or  PG913 1510 1430  PG907 1740 1900  or  PG909 1820 1940   
or
May 2 AKL HKG NZ39 2330 0645+1/May 3 HKG BKK CX713 0855 1035, then the same flights shown above except not PG905.

That's it. End of story. Teams have to depart Auckland on Friday night May 2 if they are to be at Ankgor Wat in the late morning of Sunday May 4. The only possible alternative, going by road overnight the roughly 300 miles east from Bangkok to Siem Reap, is not something that previous Amazing Races have allowed.




OK folks lets calm down. Apart from PG903 is there ANY other way the teams can get to Cambodia on May 4th? As I have said there are other connecting points other than Bangkok. There's also Singapore and Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur and also via Ho Chi Minh. If there was an Auckland leg then can that have been part of a superleg? Just a thought. I will reiterate I did not notice any teams on PG903 from Bangkok but it MAY not mean they weren't there. However I can share this info now that I did see teams enroute to Siem Reap from Tonle Sap in those blue trucks with the African American couple in the last truck. Our guide only told us there was filming going on in the area. I'm still trying to get my time frame right it may be around 10-11am May 4. That's what I remember. If you guys are wondering why I didn't share this info earlier is because I was not able to get a photo plus the trucks were within minutes of each other. My friends and I also thought it was a new radical concept of transporting tourists so we thought nothing of it even after our guides comment and until I logged on the net in Phuket, Thailand.  To be honest I was kicking myself big time. The only we can do is wait til the show airs. I do apologize for not reporting this. Oh and  it takes 8 hours from Bangkok to Siem Reap by road. We asked our travel agent if we could take this route as a cheaper and more adventurous mode of travel.


Puddin, I agree with you regarding Cambodia not being a mecca of communications.  :lol:
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Post by: apskip on May 21, 2008, 07:24:37 AM
:duno: I bet peach will ask  :lol: ....so what are the odds they saw the same 3 teams?

And the newest blogger above says 3 teams no specifics

puddin, as you know from your experience watching the Amazing Races of the past, there are many times when teams that are lagging have to get onto a second or sometimes even a third flight. Most of the time this is the result of aribitrary restrictions placed by World Race Productions, but some of the time it is airlines reaching their real capacity. I do not find the observations from the newest blogger contradictory to those facts.
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Post by: Neobie on May 21, 2008, 10:13:21 AM
Bangkok to Siem Reap by land is not easy. It's unlikely teams could have made it in time.

Unless teams leave Bangkok in the morning (5 hours by bus) it would be impossible to make the border crossing at Aranyaprathet, which closes at 8pm. From there it's negotiating with scheming taxi drivers (if we're looking at the fastest way) for another 4 hour trip over roads in hardly the best condition. If teams don't overnight in Aranyaprathet or Poipet - the Cambodia side of the border - we're looking at a 9am departure from Bangkok at the very latest, and that's on the morning of the 3rd.

Oh heck, just for the occasion:

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2753/indexqq0.th.gif) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexqq0.gif)
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 21, 2008, 10:41:35 AM
Love a new Map anytime!!  :yess:

But what does the "Indy" mean please? :-[

Well, glad we at least looked at the land option. I remember when we missed the ferry to Italy last time because we were so fixated on the flights! :groan:
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Post by: puddin on May 21, 2008, 10:53:19 AM
I Love the map too Neobie!  :sucks

and peach as in ..Indy 500 ;)

and apskips FYI, I was replying to Chateau


Did we determine that all the teams are on the same flight from Bangkok to Delhi?  At least some were spotted on Air India flight 854 that leaves Bangkok at 1:30 pm.

:duno: I bet peach will ask  :lol: ....so what are the odds they saw the same 3 teams?

And the newest blogger above says 3 teams no specifics

puddin, as you know from your experience watching the Amazing Races of the past, there are many times when teams that are lagging have to get onto a second or sometimes even a third flight. Most of the time this is the result of aribitrary restrictions placed by World Race Productions, but some of the time it is airlines reaching their real capacity. I do not find the observations from the newest blogger contradictory to those facts.

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Post by: moox03 on May 21, 2008, 02:05:06 PM
I was thinking that "Indy" referred to Indiana Jones...and the upcoming movie (it's in the same font and all...)
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Post by: puddin on May 21, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
I was thinking that "Indy" referred to Indiana Jones...and the upcoming movie (it's in the same font and all...)
Uh duh to me! lmao! Guess thats what I get for being all sorts of a "race" fan.
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Post by: michael on May 21, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
I was thinking that "Indy" referred to Indiana Jones...and the upcoming movie (it's in the same font and all...)
Uh duh to me! lmao! Guess thats what I get for being all sorts of a "race" fan.

 :lol: :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2008, 09:21:15 AM
Bringing this over from Sucks (hey--I'm only the messenger!)

1): dylandaniels wrote: 650AM
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I live in Melbourne,Australia and i was at the torquay beach which has the biggest waves and most popular beach in Victoria and there was amazing race producers organizing a date they can book the beach for a dettour or road block or something i tried my hardest to take the form of the bench to see what date and stuff it was but couldnt get it.

2): dylandaniels wrote: 705AM:
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 I was in Auckland 3 weeks ago and i suddnely saw 2 camera mean running around Mt.Kallua and i looked and saw a team running i follwed them and when i had the chnace when they were waiting for a taxi i took a pic from behind as the camera men kept telling me to get away i couldnt get a pic of the guy i heard the girl screming out hes name and she was saying george so hes name is george but i coundt catch her name


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR13dylndanielsmaybeteammemeber.jpg)

 


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Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
Brief commentary here:

We know there seems to be no time for Melbourne this race, so possibly could be a local race...

That pack and those flip-flops seem all wrong for the race...

Asking for more info on Mt Kallua  ;) since I can't seem to find such a place....
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Post by: puddin on May 22, 2008, 12:10:45 PM
Interesting peach!

Heres more Siem Reap
Blog (http://macopa.blogspot.com/2008/05/phnom-penh-cambodia.html)

Saturday, May 10, 2008
A day in Phnom Penh (Cambodia)
Phnom Penh is the capital of Cambodia and it’s a 6-hour bus ride from Siem Reap. We were hoping to take the Mekong Express bus or plane going there but both were fully booked so we ended up taking a regular airconditioned bus which turned out to be a blessing in disguise because we chanced upon the shoot of Amazing Race right across where our bus was parked!:) Photo-taking isn't actually allowed but we were able to snap some shots from the bus.:)

(click for full view) pic data if correct  DateTime : 2008:05:04 08:18:28 

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/1-4.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/DSCN7460.jpg)

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Post by: Slowhatch on May 22, 2008, 01:58:43 PM
This (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/shef11308/cambodia-2007/1183083300/getting-in-the-truck.jpg/tpod.html) is as close to a match to the truck I've found so far (blog here (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/shef11308/cambodia-2007/1183083300/tpod.html)). They seem to be used to take people to the floating villages and forests on the Tonle Sap coastline during the muddy season.
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Post by: apskip on May 22, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
NEW New Zealand INFO FROM MY SOURCE

"Phil Keoghan and team arrived on what I think was the 2 May. I
personally saw him only the afternoon/evening of this day. However,
other staff members report they have seen the team also on this day.
Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd
of May) - 5am ish. Flights leaving that early in the morning are usually
just flying to Australia.
Some airport security staff saw the rest of the team fly out in dribs
and drabs on the "3rd of May", with the last team leaving around 7pm ish
that evening."

"they left during the course of the day from around 12:30pm onwards - most took Emirates flights (of which there are 3 daily departures each day - all of which go thru Australia. One to Melbourne then Dubai, One to Sydney then Singapore, One to Brisbane, Bangkok. There was still one team here around 7pm waiting to fly out."

This is quite different from the earlier report and indicates that AR13 teams did tasks somehere on the North Island of New Zealand through late evening of May 2. After a pitstop, some teams were ready to depart for Singapore or Bankgkok, some direct and some through connection in Australia. The Timetables and Flight Information thread is mostly up-to-date on this.

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Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2008, 07:55:06 PM
Thanks apskip for sharing that, and please thank your source for us as well!

So combined with selwyn's excellent info as well, and mez's radio report, I think we can all agree that there was a NZ leg for sure. :happy:

Now we just need to find them! :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 23, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
This shot was taken between 8:13 and 9:16 am (assumes May 4th).
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/1-4.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on May 23, 2008, 04:14:02 PM
Interesting Chateau, thank you! The African American couple has them at the task at 2:30 pm according to the eyewitness *wow*


Message from Chrisrae:

Quote
It was an African American couple. I just uploaded the only pick I have to my blog entry "cambodia's culinary delights." It's the last picture in the series.

I saw them after arriving near seim reap by boat from battambang, traveling through lake tonle sap. It was about 2:30 or 3 in the afternoon on a Sunday. They were at the water's edge. We were kept away but I saw the guy stacking some baskets I've seen them use to transport pigs and she was holding their bags. They then jumped in awaiting trucks and were transported with the cameraman and got out near a wat outside of town. I kept onto town so I don't know what happened next.

Hope that helps!
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Post by: puddin on May 23, 2008, 04:18:48 PM
This (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/shef11308/cambodia-2007/1183083300/getting-in-the-truck.jpg/tpod.html) is as close to a match to the truck I've found so far (blog here (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/shef11308/cambodia-2007/1183083300/tpod.html)). They seem to be used to take people to the floating villages and forests on the Tonle Sap coastline during the muddy season.

I forget where I snagged this? maybe pbase? anyway some more pictures of what the teams "transportation" might look like.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7665/indexcaudlrw2hf7.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaudlrw2hf7.jpg)(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4084/indexca61t3wwmj1.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca61t3wwmj1.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 23, 2008, 04:34:20 PM
HA!

I just saw this:

Quote
pic data if correct  DateTime : 2008:05:04 08:18:28

So, I guess I concur. 
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Post by: puddin on May 23, 2008, 04:56:11 PM
HA!

I just saw this:

Quote
pic data if correct  DateTime : 2008:05:04 08:18:28

So, I guess I concur. 

You know when I read that Chateau I was thinking military time and was thinking the photo taker had not adjusted their camera for the correct time! lmao

*Indy= not Indy 500 but Indiana Jones, not military time...now puddin steps away from the computer to get some fresh air*

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Post by: Mrs Shrek on May 23, 2008, 05:11:09 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/1-4.jpg)

"Sneaker Leg" and "Woman with bag and hat" are the only two who we think could be contestants in this pic? Otherwise could this be pre production set up/dummy run thru for a 9am Hours of Op? Sorry it's just spec I know, but if it is really contestants in action, then it definately supports the idea of the 2:30 team being on a much later flight from NZ, and quite possibly being eliminated at the end of this leg, cos a 6 hour deficit is pretty hard to win back in a set of tasks all based in the same location unless you get a really lucky break, or another Hours of Op
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Post by: puddin on May 23, 2008, 05:22:27 PM
A dummy run thru, never thought about that MrsShrek it very well maybe? Slowhatch seems to think the man on the truck with the cap/camera is someone from production from past pictures that we've seen. 
I guess now we wait for either more team photos or the cast release in 3 or 4 months to be sure *sigh*!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 23, 2008, 06:42:14 PM
Totally unrelated here but I just have to shout out   :weights

Go Brooke !   #8 Top selling Pop album at iTunes !

:carryon:

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Post by: nikita on May 24, 2008, 07:49:20 AM
A dummy run thru, never thought about that MrsShrek it very well maybe? Slowhatch seems to think the man on the truck with the cap/camera is someone from production from past pictures that we've seen. 
I guess now we wait for either more team photos or the cast release in 3 or 4 months to be sure *sigh*!!


Yup. I guess we have to wait.
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Post by: Neobie on May 26, 2008, 07:45:07 AM
Euh. What's this (http://danny.oz.au/travel/nz2005/auckland-museum.html)? :wtf:

Search "backpacker" on Google Images. Top row first page.
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 26, 2008, 09:11:25 AM
Nice catch. The exif data matches the blog post, only for 2005.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 26, 2008, 06:30:04 PM
Thank you guys! Since there is NO Mt Kallua in New Zealand, we were pretty sure that this was a fake spoiler anyway, but how nice to get 100% confirmation!

Great pickup!!
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Post by: puddin on May 26, 2008, 10:41:03 PM
Good job Neobie !!  :jam:


hey whats this? I can only get it cached  (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.sbaspect.ru/news/news.php%3Fid%3D95&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DWRP%2BGroup%2BCBS%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_enUS207US208%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dm)


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or:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 26, 2008, 10:46:19 PM
And I can't exactly say how I know :angel:, but I just got confirmation that the race was definitely in Delhi as we suspected, and also was in Moscow!!  :hearts:
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Post by: puddin on May 26, 2008, 10:49:56 PM
And I can't exactly say how I know :angel:, but I just got confirmation that the race was definitely in Delhi as we suspected, and also was in Moscow!!  :hearts:
  :yess: peachs!!  :wohoo:
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Post by: Slowhatch on May 27, 2008, 12:22:52 AM
Nice find, Puddin!  :yess:
(technical note: the new Google translate beta (http://translate.google.com/translate_t) is out. They've jumped in the language-guessing game (choose "detect language" from the drop-down box) and added some new languages as well, including Croatian, Hindi and Finnish. I tried some stuff from TAR10; not as good as Signal's help of course but better than what I had been using.)
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Post by: puddin on May 27, 2008, 01:34:42 AM
Bookmarked thanks Slowhatch!
What are the odds peach & I find Russia info at the same time? :hfive:

more Siem Reap (http://paulmarkthirnan.blogspot.com/2008/05/angkor-wat-cambodia.html)
We didn't manage to take a picture of it but i think we ran into a couple doing the Amazing Race here. We'll have to check out the next season but the couple was being followed by a camera man and they had to find a specific face in the ruins. I did my best to make a cameo between this and Bollywood I am really getting my face out there.

eta: looks like a route marker? right corner

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7859/indexnu9.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexnu9.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on May 27, 2008, 01:55:07 AM
Well for wat it's worth the temple's called Ta Prohm, a 5-10min tuk-tuk ride away from Angkor Wat.

Can't find another photo of that angle that wide, but I have a feeling it's just a sign there...
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Post by: puddin on May 27, 2008, 02:00:55 AM
Well for wat it's worth the temple's called Ta Prohm, a 5-10min tuk-tuk ride away from Angkor Wat...
Maybe this is what they had to do on May 5th? (brb)

eta:

just butting in here another fwiw

Blog (http://myweirdmindwonders.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-to-catch-up.html)

Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Just to catch up....
So I just got back into Thailand from Cambodia.... which is why i haven't posted in a while. Ends up that Cambodia is not a telecommunications mecca. Anyways, everything has kinda been a whirlwind. Covered 3 countries in 2 weeks and it kinda feels like we are on "The Amazing Race".... and i mean literally. Yesterday we were in Angkor Wat (more of that story later... it is AMAZING... you should look up pictures... seriously a Wonder of the Ancient world--- i thought better than the stuff i saw in Rome) The Amazing Race was filming at Angkor the same day we were there. AND THEN... we end up at the airport to fly to Bangkok from Cambodia... and who was on our airplane.... thats right.... 3 teams competing on the next season of the Amazing Race. We are sitting there and then all the sudden all these camera and sound guys are filming everything. And the producer guy was sitting in the seat right behind me and vida. CRAZY!! So now we consider ourselves official unofficial cast members. And before all this started I was telling vida that i thought it felt like we were on the amazing race.


Okay, so what they saw on May 5th at Angkor Wat was Teams starting their next leg.  Maybe one clue to find but then it's off to the airport.  Remember, there are teams on Bangkok Airways 924 leaving Siem Reap at 9:50 am and arriving in Bangkok at 10:45 am based on the other flight spotting (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301576.html#msg301576) on the way to Delhi.  Here are all the flights to Bangkok:
#            leaves       arrives
PG 924  9:50 am    10:45 am
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Did we determine that all the teams are on the same flight from Bangkok to Delhi?  At least some were spotted on Air India flight 854 that leaves Bangkok at 1:30 pm.
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Post by: puddin on May 27, 2008, 02:07:05 AM
this too from the recent blog posted above:

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This ruin known as Bayon is probably one of the most famous within Angkor. Apparently the faces are of the King Jayavarman VII represented as Bodhisattva (translated as Wisdom-Being).

note: this is the bloggers picture not a contestant

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1411/indexcarwg3eekq8.th.jpg) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcarwg3eekq8.jpg)(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5865/indexca6bai9mvy8.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca6bai9mvy8.jpg)(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9149/indexcats64w1lm1.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcats64w1lm1.jpg)
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Post by: Kogs on May 27, 2008, 08:58:39 AM
Good job Neobie !!  :jam:


hey whats this? I can only get it cached  (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.sbaspect.ru/news/news.php%3Fid%3D95&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DWRP%2BGroup%2BCBS%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_enUS207US208%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dm)


12.05.2008
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or:
12.05.2008 Sb “ASPECT” insured the civil liability of the American telecommunication companies CBS Of corporation and WRP Of group. The responsibility of companies is insured to the period of conducting the surveys of tv program in the territory of Russia. Limit of the responsibility of insurer - 1[mln] of US dollars.

hmmmmmm revisiting russia, i wonder if they revisited egypt to???
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 27, 2008, 09:06:39 AM
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Maybe this is what they had to do on May 5th? (brb)

This could also be the thing they do upon arrival.  "find so-in-so face" for the first clue.  It would be good to get a date from the blogger.  May 4th or May 5th?

Oh Peach!!! 
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2008, 09:23:42 AM
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Maybe this is what they had to do on May 5th? (brb)

This could also be the thing they do upon arrival.  "find so-in-so face" for the first clue.  It would be good to get a date from the blogger.  May 4th or May 5th?

Oh Peach!!! 

Heee...I wrote already but no reply so far...I think their Internet time is expensive right now.

And I just relooked at Jason's Blog and I think the Bangkok post was made on 5/6/08 but at 12:05 AM so he prob saw them on 5/5 too? Have asked to be sure though.....

Ta-Phrom Layout (come visit the MAPS!  :lol:)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/ta-prohm-nc-ag.jpg)

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Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
Remember our cute blogger who spent the day following a team at Ankgor Wat??

I was able to reach her and she has sent PRESENTS! :hearts:

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We were at Angkor Wat on the 4th May when they were filming the Amazing Race. We only saw one team at Angkor for the whole time we were there which was a couple of hours. This team was both male, one with orange hair and the other with brown hair and they were at the clue box at 11.30am. We also happened to see all the teams walking around Siem Reap town that evening and I recall seeing 6 teams. I would love to visit your website and I have plenty of photos I will send to your email address
....

And she sent these for now and hopefully will come answer questions herself soon!  :jumpy:

Taken at 11:36AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13lornasankgorwatteams1marked.jpg)

Taken At 11:39 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13lornasankgorwatteams2marked.jpg)

Taken at 12:03PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13lornasankgorwatteams3marked.jpg)



edited to add camera time information
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Post by: puddin on May 29, 2008, 08:50:43 PM
Thank you peach and thank you cute blogger  for sharing :jumpy:  :hearts:

Note the Jew-fro doing the roadblock is carrying a picture frame, maybe? therefore "find a specific face in the ruins"?

where is everyone? maybe everyone is watching Lost?  :wohoo:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2008, 08:53:47 PM
They wouldn't be using a GPS would they?? ???
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Post by: mswood on May 29, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
Looks a little large for a gps, though.  At least compared to the ones used in All STARS.  I would guess that either its a map, or a picture they need to match to an item.
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Post by: moox03 on May 29, 2008, 10:05:28 PM
The Jewfro guy is DEFINITELY wearing an AEPi shirt in that picture.
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2008, 10:15:30 PM
Sure would be nice if a fellow member could find a picture from Arizona '06...   :angel: 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kogs on May 29, 2008, 10:24:38 PM
Sure would be nice if a fellow member could find a picture from Arizona '06...   :angel: 

get your school right, its arizona state. im working on it. i cant help it if some1 goes trekking around israel in a location where theres no internet
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 29, 2008, 10:39:28 PM
Great work Peach!!!

Can you ask your source when the 'couple of hours'  started and stopped?  I placed the blue shirt guy at Angkor Wat at just about 11:30 am as well.  So, could they have been near the end of their 'couple of hours' at 11:30?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2008, 10:43:36 PM
Sure would be nice if a fellow member could find a picture from Arizona '06...   :angel: 

get your school right, its arizona state. im working on it. i cant help it if some1 goes trekking around israel in a location where theres no internet

Excuses, excuses.... :lol3: :popcorn:  :lol3:

Hi Chateau! :waves:

Well,  she did say they were at the CLUE BOX at 11:30, so I'm thinking starting maybe? But I hope she'll come join us but am not sure how often she has Internet access...
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 29, 2008, 10:52:15 PM
This picture was taken here:

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4046/indexcakjpg0idp6.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcakjpg0idp6.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13lornasankgorwatteams1marked.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2008, 11:11:21 PM
And I have been looking all over for a crooked-y wall!  :groan:

Like this one thonmanon:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/TAR13floorplanthommanonangkorwat.jpg)

But this is nice with the labels and all...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/TAR13ankgorwatlabelled.jpg)

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Post by: puddin on May 29, 2008, 11:15:05 PM
Heres the other angle (thumbnail) ~


 A new Blog  (http://lornaincambodia.blogspot.com/2008/05/well-overdue-update.html)

Last weekend mum and I went up to Siem Reap for a long weekend. We stayed in a great place near the Old Market and spent most of the time checking out as many temples as humanly possible, shopping in town and making the most of relaxing by the pool. We saw plenty more temples we hadn’t seen on our last trip along with the favs – Ta Phrom, Bayon and Angkor Wat. We also took a trip out to the Ruolos temples which was well worth it. Make sure you check out season 13 of the Amazing Race. We were at Angkor Wat on Sunday and found the clue box! They were filming for hours and we spent half the time stalking the contestants looking for the next clue, it was hilarious! I’m sure they’ll be spending plenty of time editing us out of the background.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/th_DSC_0680.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/DSC_0680.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2008, 02:04:20 AM
May I say we have Confirmation that...

1.  Mom/Son
2. Terrance/Sarah
3. Ginger/Brown Male Team, Two Frat Guys
4. Team Texas Girls
5. African Americans
6. Ginger Female (SIGHTED) and Man
and Man (SIGHTED) and Sister

Thats too many unless the Ginger Female is with the man as his sister??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2008, 07:13:56 AM
Maybe we start the leg w/ seven (7 boats were seen) and end w/ six?
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Post by: apskip on May 30, 2008, 07:45:03 AM
They wouldn't be using a GPS would they?? ???

It looks to me like the same GPS that was used in Guam for AR11, episode 12 when there was a "find the serviceman" task after slogging through varied terrain.
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Post by: puddin on May 30, 2008, 10:11:46 AM
Maybe we start the leg w/ seven (7 boats were seen) and end w/ six?
Thats what I'm thinking now too, were missing a couple in the Bangkok to India scenario.

anyway it doesn't look GPS to me~

(http://i32.[banned image hosting site].com/14vo5rl.jpg)

(http://i27.[banned image hosting site].com/14o2mbd.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 30, 2008, 10:16:37 AM
So that right edge of a letter on his shirt is a Pi?   :lol:  That's cool.
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Post by: Chateau d If on May 30, 2008, 10:18:02 AM
Maybe these guys will be the educated versions of Marshall & Lance.   
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Post by: Kogs on May 30, 2008, 10:57:59 AM
Sure would be nice if a fellow member could find a picture from Arizona '06...   :angel: 

get your school right, its arizona state. im working on it. i cant help it if some1 goes trekking around israel in a location where theres no internet

Excuses, excuses.... :lol3: :popcorn:  :lol3:

Hi Chateau! :waves:

Well,  she did say they were at the CLUE BOX at 11:30, so I'm thinking starting maybe? But I hope she'll come join us but am not sure how often she has Internet access...

sorry peach im doing my best to track her down. i sent my friend to find her lol
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Hang on guys--it isn't a GPS it is a piece of slate...

pics coming in a few...
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Lots more from our cute blogger! :hearts:

Taken at 11:53
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAr13angkorwat1clabelled.jpg) and there are monkeys!

Closeup:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13closeupcontestantatAngkorWat.jpg)


Cluebox:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13angkorwat1dlabelled.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13angkorwat1glabelled.jpg)

Taken at 11:39
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13angkorwat1elabelled.jpg)

Taken at 12:03
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13angkorwat1ilabelled.jpg)

Closeup:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13angkorwat1icloseuplabelled.jpg)


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on May 30, 2008, 12:23:51 PM
Very nice peach! Tablet it is!
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Post by: Neobie on May 30, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
Ah, archeology!

Looks like he's running round the ruins to pick up the pieces of a puzzle, a la Giza "these pieces are for something else" - he runs in without the slate and picks one up soon after!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2008, 01:11:38 PM
Wonder if they have could a mini bas-relief on the slate tablet to match up?

Neobie, one of the blogs said they had to match a face... but don't know where he picked the slate tablet thingy up.

It is the Bayon temple that has the faces (http://www.orientalarchitecture.com/angkor/bayonindex.htm).

Really nice site about each temple. (http://www.orientalarchitecture.com/angkor/bayonindex.htm) Click on other sites in Angkor--maps, photos from different spots, nice...

See, our guy is going to have to get from where he is (Angkor Wat) over to the Bayon site and then match a face, I think. And looks like that is about a good 1/2 a mile away.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/MAPangkorwattemples.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on May 30, 2008, 01:52:44 PM
Looks like Ms Fingerpointer has a clean slate.

"I even got filmed helping one of the contestants find her clue.." (http://journals.worldnomads.com/matt_and_alson/post/18605.aspx)

(http://i31.[banned image hosting site].com/2irwv0m.jpg)
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Post by: JonLover on June 01, 2008, 01:10:24 AM
Good morning, RFF.

This is my first post in this amazing site and I'm no longer just a lurker (I know some of you are aware of this, LOL). Well, it's fun to be here, I guess.

I don't know if you have read this but I am sharing it here, hoping someone will pick this up. Selwyn and Apskip confirmed the New Zealand leg for TAR 13 so I had to e-mail a cousin who is living in Manurewa, Auckland, New Zealand. She also confirmed this by telling that the filming was really a talk of the town. She even told me that apparently she saw "an envelope for Amazing Race at Wesfield Mall, particularly at the Parents Room"

I'm putting this here since I don't have an idea about the parents room. I hope someone from New Zealand could help us. The place is Manurewa.

Thanks fellow lovers of spoilers.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 01, 2008, 08:37:04 AM
JonLover!  :cheer:

:welcome2: to RFF!! We are SO pleased to finally get to say  :hithere: in person!

For those who don't know, JonLover has been doing some excellent detective work elsewhere (almost singlehandedly :ascared)--so it is wonderful to have her/him (? :lol:) join us here!  :yess:

But I am not clear on exactly when your cousin saw what she did in Manurewa,   but I think this is almost certainly what she saw... :'( :'(


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May 15, 2008 ... Short film of our amazing race thru the manukau mall with my intermediate youth from The Salvation Army Manukau 15 May 2008.

Source is a Salvation Army Youth Paster in Manukau City: http://youtube.bebo2nd.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=1796532

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/MAPNZManurewa-1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 01, 2008, 10:16:53 AM
 Well its about time  :hearts:, welcome to the forum jonlover it is an honor to have you join us :wohoo:
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Post by: JonLover on June 01, 2008, 06:42:52 PM
Oh, so there is Manurewa Amazing Race. Why did I not think of googling it. Anyways, thanks puddin and Georgiapeach fo rthe warm welcome.
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Post by: puddin on June 01, 2008, 06:52:41 PM
Oh, so there is Manurewa Amazing Race. Why did I not think of googling it. Anyways, thanks puddin and Georgiapeach fo rthe warm welcome.
:hearts: Your always welcomed here Jonlover, did you here me calling you?    :dancer: :hhello: :ty4posting
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Lucky13 on June 02, 2008, 03:50:10 AM
__________
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 02, 2008, 10:40:46 AM
Actually no, Lucky 13, it is a Salvation Army Youth group mini-race organized by their pastor as I explained.

But :welcome2: to RFF !
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Post by: RichInSydney on June 02, 2008, 09:55:49 PM
Plus Manukau City is a pretty boring place to film considering the other nice spots in NZ...
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 02, 2008, 10:27:13 PM
:welcome3: to RFF, Rich!

Another Aussie I take it?
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Post by: nikita on June 03, 2008, 09:55:44 AM
Maybe we start the leg w/ seven (7 boats were seen) and end w/ six?
Thats what I'm thinking now too, were missing a couple in the Bangkok to India scenario.

anyway it doesn't look GPS to me~

(http://i32.[banned image hosting site].com/14vo5rl.jpg)

(http://i27.[banned image hosting site].com/14o2mbd.jpg)


Looks way too big for a GPS...
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 03, 2008, 02:55:14 PM
Hey Nikita, we have discovered it isnt a GPS it is a Archeology task and that thing the man is holding is a stone plaque
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Post by: north09 on June 03, 2008, 03:47:19 PM
 He has a name, but thats all I'm gona say   ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 04, 2008, 01:26:28 AM
...I dont know Nikita's Name is!!  ;)
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Post by: Lorna on June 04, 2008, 02:43:48 AM
Hi everyone!!
So I finally got the chance to check out the forum and sign up.
Apologies in advance as I have limited internet access at the moment which would explain any late replies.
I was checking the time stamp on my photos from Angkor Wat and from 11.30 - 12.30pm that was the only team that came through.
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions!
Just for curiosity sake the guy with the orange hair was really nice and managed to exchange a few words.
Cheers!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 04, 2008, 03:25:33 AM
 :hello2: Hi Lorna and welcome to the Forum.

 Thanks very much for sharing your pictures and info :thankyou:
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Post by: nikita on June 04, 2008, 09:14:03 AM
Hey Nikita, we have discovered it isnt a GPS it is a Archeology task and that thing the man is holding is a stone plaque


Thanks. This will be the last time I will be in this forum. I think I'm being made fun off. Thanks folks. bye.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 04, 2008, 09:22:30 AM
Nikita, I think kiwi thought north's post was directed at him about your name, when in reality it is something else entirely about our racer's name.

Truly, it wasn't about you..please reconsider! :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 04, 2008, 09:30:46 AM
Hi everyone!!
So I finally got the chance to check out the forum and sign up.
Apologies in advance as I have limited internet access at the moment which would explain any late replies.
I was checking the time stamp on my photos from Angkor Wat and from 11.30 - 12.30pm that was the only team that came through.
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions!
Just for curiosity sake the guy with the orange hair was really nice and managed to exchange a few words.
Cheers!!


:cheer: :cheer: :welcome2: :cheer: :cheer:

For anyone who may not know, Lorna is our blogger who was lucky enough to be at Angkor Wat on TAR filming day, and has been so kind about sharing all of her info and photos with us all! :hearts:

We are all delighted she has joined us here so please give her a big :welcome3: to RFF!!

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Post by: Chateau d If on June 04, 2008, 11:06:23 AM
Hi Lorna, and thanks for helping out here.  Your photos are the kind of thing that drives this place.

About the time of day for your shots:  You have a team in the interior of the Wat between 11:30 and 12:30.  We have shots of another team (the Frat Boys) at the East gate to the Wat at around 11:30.  And we have a shot of Mr. Blue Shirt in the middle of the outside south wall at around 11:30 am (my sun-shadow estimate).

So it looks like a few teams were there at the same time.  I have never been there.  Is it possible to get the feeling that you only see one team because of the walls and the sheer size of the place?

ETA:  Opps, I mixed you up with the other photographer.  So, that means, Wow! I really like your pictures.  They are the best of the bunch.  The question still applies.  That is, how certain of The Frats' solitude are you?
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Post by: north09 on June 04, 2008, 01:32:24 PM
:groan: There really is no way to say it right without getting it confused, first I said he isn't a "man" anymore, and that was confusing, so I changed it to he has a name, which once again is being misread. Nikita, I didn't mean you at all! I was talking about the blue shirt guy (who will continue to be that untill I can say something).

 :welcome3: Lorna! Those pictures you took are great! I've actually been drawing them just for fun.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 04, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
Hey Nikita its Kiwi, I misread norths post too, and my first post was simply telling you that when you said it cant a GPS, I said that we have already discovered that it was a stone slab
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Post by: puddin on June 04, 2008, 03:11:40 PM
Welcome to the forum Lorna and thank you so much for sharing your pictures :bigwelcome

The rest of you, you know who I mean, knock it off!!!  :knuckles:
..and north, no one wants to hear I know something you don't so if you have something to post then go right ahead. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 04, 2008, 03:14:23 PM
Oh north might have found out Lorna's team??!!
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Post by: north09 on June 04, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
Well if you're telling me I can now...

Andrew Lappit

Slowhatch found he deleted his Facebook a couple days after I posted his name and he belongs to the Alpha Epsilon Pi frat.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on June 04, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
Well if you're telling me I can now...

Andrew Lappit

Slowhatch found he deleted his Facebook a couple days after I posted his name and he belongs to the Alpha Epsilon Pi frat.
Thats what I'm talking about north, what good is keeping a secret? If its him then the word is out and no use hiding it right? It's not like they don't know that his name has already been brought up on the forum, as if they will forget that we might know his name or something :lala .
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Post by: north09 on June 04, 2008, 03:32:56 PM
 :lol: I know, just it was you our peach that said we were gona end up having to do this is private message because of CBS. Either way, I'm glad I could get it out there!  :jumpy:
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Post by: Kogs on June 04, 2008, 03:44:30 PM
Well if you're telling me I can now...

Andrew Lappit

Slowhatch found he deleted his Facebook a couple days after I posted his name and he belongs to the Alpha Epsilon Pi frat.

its not that he deleted it, he took it totally private. hes still there doesnt come up in searches.
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Post by: Lorna on June 05, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
Come to think of it there would have been another team there but they were leaving at 11.30. Thats what got my attention in the first place..the camera crew running outside. I couldn't tell you who it was though. But im positive the team i saw was the only one there from 11.30 because the guy with the brown hair was the only person waiting while his team mate was doing the road block. 
 :waves: :waves:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2008, 11:54:34 PM
Hi Lorna! :waves:

Did you ever see exactly where the team member doing the Roadblock went? And what they did?

We have been speculating that they may have had to go match up a face at Bayon...any idea if that might be right?

Thanks again for sharing with us! :hearts:
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Post by: puddin on June 06, 2008, 01:17:25 AM
Thank you Lorna and by the way I enjoy reading your blogs, you do nice work :)
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Post by: schwarzmoor on June 07, 2008, 04:15:03 AM
I believe I have the great findings!

Thanks to Matt's Album in Picasa!
http://picasaweb.google.com/mattreccow/AmazingRace13 (http://picasaweb.google.com/mattreccow/AmazingRace13)

It includes a lot of places....Salvador, Cambodia, India, Russia, Auckland..... I believe it's true.

What noticable to me is the Sky Tower in Auckalnd (recycle from The Amazing Race Asia?) and Red Square in Moscow

I think the pic of Phil below is Tonle Sap Lake in Cambodia

Pls spoil the rest for me!
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2008, 06:02:25 AM
OMG!!! THE BEST EVER! THANK YOU SCHWARZMOOR!!  :kissy:

There is Salvador. Auckland Sky Tower, Loads of Tonle Sap (lake scenes), teams in the water, PHIL! , producers, maybe our blonde girls(??) Delhi, Moscow!

Oh my gosh I LOVE these and it is just killing me I have to go to work!  :'(
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 06:15:00 AM
OH. MY. GOD.

Schwarzmoor you rock! :jumpy:

So he was in:

Salvador de Bahia from 19 to 25 Apr (Cluebox there on the 24th)
Auckland from 27 to 30 Apr
Cambodia from 3 to 5 May (Phil's there on the 3rd; it's Tonle Sap on the 3rd and the 4th, Angkor Wat on the 5th)
Delhi from 6 to 9 May
Moscow from 10 to 13 May

Thanks Matt Reccow! (Someone's gonna get fired...) :duno:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2008, 06:29:40 AM
Jamaili-Kamali Tomb in Delhi?  (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.indiasite.com/gifs/jamali-kamali-tomb-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.indiasite.com/delhi/places/jamalikamalitomb.html&h=250&w=220&sz=13&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=f9udDRZeAYX0DM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddelhi%2BTomb%2Bof%2Baltamash%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGFRC,GFRC:2007-02,GFRC:en%26sa%3DN)

Darn, no time to search....

Y'all have fun! :hugs:
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Post by: apskip on June 07, 2008, 06:34:41 AM
Schwartzmoor, thank you for gifting us with soem a fine present.

The sight of St. Basil's in Moscow reconfirms Moscow as a stop. Oporto is a surpise, but it is the second city of Portugal(with the great port wine produced in the region around it). The gaps that remain are between Salvador and Bolivia and between Dubai and Moscow. I did not recognize anything that helps show what those places are.

I saw no pictures of Iguassu Falls, so if this photo album is a retrospective of where AR13 went it apparently did not go there. Also, I saw no photos of Dubai itself, so it apparently did not leave the airport there. Also, there are no pictures of Frankfurt, so I conclude that teams did not venture beyong the Frankfurt airport after arriving from Oporto.
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 06:40:54 AM
Apskip, seems like he's on the production side, and has been skipping legs (Bolivia, for example) so we can't rule out anything just yet...

I don't think Porto's in there. Did we mix it up with Salvador?

6 May shows Humayun's Tomb, and 9 May shows the Qutub Complex in Delhi, FWIW.
Lawrence's Travels (6 May) is at Connaught Place, and Khari Baoli (7 May) is at Pandav Nagar, all in Delhi.

10 May is at the All-Russia Exhibition Centre in Moscow.

9 team tags at the Sky Tower? Which means at least 8 teams? Which means at least 7 teams in Cambodia? Which means?!?!
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Post by: schwarzmoor on June 07, 2008, 07:44:05 AM
I finally found a team in the album. It's the mother and son team!

Could it be a roadblock? It seems he's going to retrieve a net which contains the fish
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 07:56:36 AM
Bertram, Phil and Hayma Washington are on G3 1600 on the morning of the 23rd, leaving Rio at 10.30am and arriving Salvador at 12.30pm? (We were talking about this back on Page 15.) The two-letter airline code doesn't match, but AA, AH, HA and HH yield flights in Detroit, Algeria, Iceland and Germany respectively.

The race stared on the 22nd. Phil does not even have time to set foot in Sao Paulo, let alone eliminate a team there. Salvador belongs in Leg One!



At the top left corner, Matt leaves Salvador on the 25th on JJ 3179 to Sao Paulo to get to Auckland on the 27th, through Santiago or Buenos Aires. JJ 3895 and LA 5229 for Fred Meyer and Brent Benedetti also get to Sao Paulo, and I have no idea why they need to take separate flights.


(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5852/indexcabz1ulaju1.th.jpg) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcabz1ulaju1.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 09:10:27 AM
 :jumpy:  Looks like the picasa pictures of the cluebox in Brazil are actually near the Sao Francisco Church along Ladeira de Carmo in Salvador (Bahia) Brazil.

Note baroque blue/white building in background with fancy pointy things on roof.  Cluebox is to the left of the church front (not seen very well in pictures).

Edited to Add:
A Igreja de São Francisco (The Church of Saint Francis) and its attached convent are up the cobbled streets and to the left at the far side of the Terreio de Jesus, standing at the end of an adjacent square (Praça Anchieta), beyond a large stone cross.

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5306/01sep0031we7.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0031we7.jpg)(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6267/01sep0033zq8.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0033zq8.jpg)(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1286/01sep0034cq6.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0034cq6.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 09:21:01 AM
 :sucks  FWIW, the label on boxes under the table with the "goodie bags" in picasa pictures is peccin (http://www.peccin.com.br/principal.php).  (candy company in Brazil)   :snicker:
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Post by: Zack. on June 07, 2008, 09:43:14 AM
I finally found a team in the album. It's the mother and son team!

Could it be a roadblock? It seems he's going to retrieve a net which contains the fish

I dunno, I thought there was the RB at Angkor Wat already. Unless there's two legs in Cambodia.

*heads to Timelines to see if that is even remotely possible* - edit: maybe not, unless there's an uberleg somewhere in this

And a very big thanks for your findings!  :jumpy:
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 09:43:59 AM
AHA! Remember 1311?

Matt flies to Auckland next, which from here is 1304. So I guess there are three legs in South America.

(Fred and Brent go to cover 1303, which means Bolivia.)

Cambodia would be Leg 5, and Leg 6 India, or maybe Cambodia Part II. Wow!

Lots of red and yellow on that staircase on the 23rd of April. Task for our racers?

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3028/indexcaved0onii1.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaved0onii1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
Just wow Schwarzmoor  :jam: :wohoo:  :jumpy:
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 10:10:01 AM
 :snicker:  This is it!   :wohoo:    (so many churches in Bahia)   ;)
Praça Anchieta
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2006/indexcay9we96hv2.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcay9we96hv2.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 10:11:35 AM
Our friend's doing a timed recce in Salvador here on 19 April...

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2881/indexca4h1954wk2.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca4h1954wk2.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
Wow just wow I feel like a kid in a candy store  :yess:. I have all the photos saved to me hard drive plus the front page picture (just in case it goes bye bye). I'm inclined to think they spent more time in India then we originally thought?( nvm, already noted above, you guys are fast)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 11:14:27 AM
I got one:  (one link to add to Neobie's list of 'easies', that is)

Humayun's Tomb  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humayun's_tomb)located in Nizamuddin east, New Delhi.


ETA:    :groan:

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4195/indexcaokibmadu1.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaokibmadu1.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
As Matt ends his day on an obscure beach in Salvador on the 24th (Photos #261-264), I can't help but wonder... was this the Pit Stop?

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5535/indexca4asuuczr8.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca4asuuczr8.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 11:25:55 AM
apskip's notes Kazakhstan in the timeline can someone tell me what photo (s) that is?

eta:_Moscow_russia_  (http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9180/indexcako0nbsyy1.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcako0nbsyy1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 12:04:54 PM
Too bad Matt didn't label them  :lol:
The locomotive looks like Moscow as well and thats a bank? but I can't find it.
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
That's the All-Russia Exhibition Centre...

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/870139871_99589a088b.jpg?v=0)

the Red Star Train...

(http://k53.pbase.com/o4/05/621605/1/56632014.135_3551.JPG)

and well, just for the record, Lenin's Mausoleum.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Lenins_Mausoleum.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 12:15:03 PM
Well dang me Neobie! Good job!!
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 12:43:45 PM
 :lol:  The Amazing Snack Shop   :funny:

FWIW:Changai Snack Shop

Refreshments Changai and Perez - sandwich of ham
Address: Rua Conselheiro Saraiva, No. 32, Commerce., Bahia
Telefone: 3242-8270 Phone: 3242-8270

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1166/indexcajk2e8zul1.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcajk2e8zul1.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 12:44:07 PM
Muhuahuahuah! *evil laugh*

One thing leads to another - check out the names on the whiteboard!

http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/47/Angkor_Memories (http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/47/Angkor_Memories)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 01:12:39 PM
FWIW, the sign over the door (in Matt's photo) says "MUSEUM" in cyrillic.  Somewhere in Moscow(?).   :duno:

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3880/indexcal6zpqooq8.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcal6zpqooq8.jpg)
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Post by: north09 on June 07, 2008, 01:37:15 PM
One pgoto says Fast Forward In Progress - Intresting they seem to be having it a little early (assuming it's in Salvador).
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 01:42:41 PM
Hey Puddin Boingo, I'm working on that!


I thinks Teams will be sent to
the "House of Bulgakov".  He was a Russian novelist and playwright active in the first half of the 20th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bulgakov).
Website for the museum at the Flat of Bulgakov (http://www.dombulgakova.ru/). 

The website has a matching shot of the door.
(http://www.dombulgakova.ru/images/2579648946d6.jpg)

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5980/indexor6.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexor6.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 01:51:55 PM
Hey Peach!  Give them a call:   (495) 970-06-19     :funny:
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 02:11:44 PM
One pgoto says Fast Forward In Progress - Intresting they seem to be having it a little early (assuming it's in Salvador).

Actually, I believe it's the SkyJump/SkyWalk attraction at the SkyTower in Aukland, NZ... so way after South America.

http://www.skyjump.co.nz/
http://www.skywalk.co.nz/

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3687/01sep0035gn4.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0035gn4.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
Chateau, you found it! I was madly punching Cyrillic into Google but nothing would work!

Matt was at the House of Bulgakov on the 10th, 11th and 13th. Does that suggest that his hotel or something is nearby, rather than having the teams go there?

Oh, and for future reference (http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2049/crewef7.jpg), gleaned from that whiteboard... (I know we have many more to add, could someone point me in the correct direction for more photos?)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 02:23:28 PM
I think the photos are gone but I have them and will group them.
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 02:28:46 PM
Hey Puddin Boingo, I'm working on that!


I thinks Teams will be sent to
the "House of Bulgakov".  He was a Russian novelist and playwright active in the first half of the 20th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bulgakov).
Website for the museum at the Flat of Bulgakov (http://www.dombulgakova.ru/). 

The website has a matching shot of the door.
(http://www.dombulgakova.ru/images/2579648946d6.jpg)
Good find Chateau!!
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Post by: apskip on June 07, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
apskip's notes Kazakhstan in the timeline can someone tell me what photo (s) that is?

eta:

This photo appears to be a Russian Orthodox priest. However, there is no indication of where he is.

RE: Kazakhstan, there is no evidence in the photos to support it and no evidence for anywhere else between Dubai and Moscow to disqualify it. It stays as Speculative for leg 8.
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
apskip's notes Kazakhstan in the timeline can someone tell me what photo (s) that is?

eta:


This photo appears to be a Russian Orthodox priest. However, there is no indication of where he is.

RE: Kazakhstan, there is no evidence in the photos to support it and no evidence for anywhere else between Dubai and Moscow to disqualify it. It stays as Speculative for leg 8.
Thats Moscow apskip's. Okay on the Kazakhstan because I was going nuts trying to figure out which was which.
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Post by: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 02:45:21 PM
Apskip, that's the St Cyril & Methodius Monument in Moscow.

Looking at the dates, Matt has only been to Salvador, Auckland, Siem Reap, Delhi and Moscow.

And great foresight, Puddin! Knew it would happen, eh? ;)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 02:52:29 PM
Looks like another dried fish task in the works ???  :lol:

From the shots in the floating village on Tonle Sap (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/125/indexcafsc0dghr6.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcafsc0dghr6.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 02:58:45 PM
I'm loading them at original size so they are taking forever  :lol:

From Neobie: :sucks

So he was in:

Salvador de Bahia from 19 to 25 Apr (Cluebox there on the 24th)
Auckland from 27 to 30 Apr
Cambodia from 3 to 5 May (Phil's there on the 3rd; it's Tonle Sap on the 3rd and the 4th, Angkor Wat on the 5th)
Delhi from 6 to 9 May
Moscow from 10 to 13 May

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Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2008, 03:03:28 PM
I think the photos are gone but I have them and will group them.

I downloaded them this AM too and can easilly make a Picasa set of my own for us if we need that? Then y'all can download them from there... Let me know...

Y'all are doing wonderfully!  :jumpy:  :hearts:  :jumpy:

I'm so jealous I can't play till tonight--darn this needing to earn a living!! :pull

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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 03:05:19 PM
Peek-a-boo  BVM !

Tonle Sap vendor

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2200/indexcaml4m5eil3.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaml4m5eil3.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 03:11:59 PM
Did anyone get the date for # 101?

Phil on Tonle Sap Lake:
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 03:24:09 PM
Did anyone get the date for # 101?

Phil on Tonle Sap Lake:
May 3rd as well as the one that might? be the mom & son team (May 3rd).
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 07, 2008, 03:41:33 PM
wow!!! apart from the mom and son team are there any other teams in the pics?
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 03:42:41 PM
This is the Moscow Railway Museum (http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ru/station/Moskva/misc/2008-02-13-0001.jpg)

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8281/indexcay3nv8xou6.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcay3nv8xou6.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2008, 03:53:25 PM
Do y'all think the two blondes sitting by the wall are production or our missing Texans? (sorry can't add the photo from here...)
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 07, 2008, 03:55:37 PM
...I thought the Texans were Blonde and Brunette?? (That Airport photo)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 03:56:56 PM
 :sucks  OK, lets play "Where In The World Has Matt Been"   :snicker:

or rather, where has Matt been in Salvador   :lol:

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5755/indexcactngc0cy0.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcactngc0cy0.jpg)(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6696/indexcapznr0uap1.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcapznr0uap1.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 04:04:50 PM
I noticed that in Matt's shots there are pieces of Yellow and Red tape laid out in a line at the steps of San Francisco Church, just inside the gate.

I suspect this is where teams must wait/sleep until morning.   :snicker:

Opps, not San Francisco Church, Thanks Boingo, (I was just being sloppy):  Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo

Not to mention that you already saw it.  But I didn't know what you were talking about  :groan:

Quote
Lots of red and yellow on that staircase on the 23rd of April. Task for our racers?
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1585/indexcajw1b71gn1.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcajw1b71gn1.jpg)(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4473/01sep0036pq3.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0036pq3.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 04:12:12 PM
Look!  It's the drive-thru Wat of Cambodia   :lol: (http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3301/01sep0037yl1.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0037yl1.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 04:23:16 PM
This is the Qutb Minar garden and tower (http://www.terragalleria.com/asia/india/delhi/picture.indi38620.html), New Delhi
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9632/indexca6b62o1dy5.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca6b62o1dy5.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 04:49:51 PM
I noticed that in Matt's shots there are pieces of Yellow and Red tape laid out in a line at the steps of San Francisco Church, just inside the gate.

 :angel:  actually it's a different church (reminiscent of the Spanish Steps of Rome) called:
Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4134/indexcatvjkpxsi9.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcatvjkpxsi9.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 06:39:41 PM
 :lol: just because I can... this is the Rio Branco Palace, former seat of the State Governor

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Post by: randomnzer on June 07, 2008, 06:47:45 PM
One pgoto says Fast Forward In Progress - Intresting they seem to be having it a little early (assuming it's in Salvador).

Actually, I believe it's the SkyJump/SkyWalk attraction at the SkyTower in Aukland, NZ... so way after South America.

http://www.skyjump.co.nz/
http://www.skywalk.co.nz/

Based on the photos (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/Auckland/?action-view&current=IMG_0339.jpg) of the task, it will be the SkyWalk - you wear blue jumpsuits for the "Jump", and orange ones for the walk.
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Post by: Boingo on June 07, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
 :lol:  because I can, again.... Matts blue/white building is the Terminal Marítimo (Salvador)(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8297/indexfd0.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexfd0.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 08:51:55 PM
I'm organized now! But I feel bad for Matt, yeah I have a conscience. So I know some of you saved the photos as well but do whatever you want to do with them. Me? I'm going to make mine private for the detectives so just message me if you want to see the pictures and I'll give you the password to access them and they can pass it on to the other detectives :)
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Post by: puddin on June 07, 2008, 09:30:27 PM
As pointed out by schwarzmoor  --maybe the son/mom team dated May 3rd but we (that would be Chateau) suspect the photographer may-not have his camera's time set correct

Tonle Sap
 
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Post by: schwarzmoor on June 07, 2008, 09:44:06 PM
Oh! Mom is really in the pic. I originally thought she is one of the locals. :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 09:53:23 PM
They must have picked up a very dedicated Fern.

Boingo
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Oh, and for future reference, gleaned from that whiteboard...

I am so embarrassed.  I always thought Hayma was female.   :ascared

I've got some good leads on the camera's time.  There is one shot of a wrist watch that says 11:12 am on May 7th.  While the camera says it was 9:42 on May 7th (India).  It may be country dependent too.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2008, 09:55:43 PM
The camera says 2007 too...   ;)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 07, 2008, 11:13:58 PM
I agree that apart from the obvious error of the year being wrong, it doesn't look like the camera is changed to the correct local time. (and I guess it would be a pretty low priority on most peoples to do list if you were tired and moving to a new time zone every couple of days)
The time error can be easily be seen on the daytime picture of the skytower

The details on the original pic suggests it was Taken On: 2007:05:01 07:00:51 but sunrise is only at approximately 07:00 in Auckland on May 1 (using data from this site here (http://www.rasnz.org.nz/SRSStimes.htm) and it doesn't look like a picture taken at dawn to me

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-36.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 07, 2008, 11:41:14 PM
This shot was taken here:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 08, 2008, 12:07:32 AM


From Neobie: :sucks

So he was in:

Salvador de Bahia from 19 to 25 Apr (Cluebox there on the 24th)
Auckland from 27 to 30 Apr
Cambodia from 3 to 5 May (Phil's there on the 3rd; it's Tonle Sap on the 3rd and the 4th, Angkor Wat on the 5th)Delhi from 6 to 9 May
Moscow from 10 to 13 May



Okay, I'm a bit confused about the dates here.

We know teams can only arr Auckland May 2 due to being seen in Santaigo airport 4/30 and "losing" a day due to the Int Dateline, which would mean Auckland May2-3. That is also when Phil is seen departing the airport.

We  KNOW thanks to mutiple sightings that teams are seen at Angkor Wat on May 4.

I do not believe we have any sightings on May 5 except an airport one I believe must be mistaken on the date.

We have 2 very reliable Bangkok and Siem Reap airport sightings on the 6th.

(I have been puzzling over this and just respoken with Justin who confirms:
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As for the racers, it was the 9:50am flight from Siem Reap to Bangkok on Tuesday May 6th.

SO I have been thinking that May 5 could have been an extended pitstop?

Do the times on these shots make us question any of that? Or would those times help in sorting out the actual vs recorded camera times??


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Post by: Chateau d If on June 08, 2008, 12:31:25 AM
I think you are right Peach.  I had totally missed that 24 hours had vanished in the timeline in Siem Reap.  So I changed Siem Reap's PS from 12 to 36 and things look good.
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Post by: puddin on June 08, 2008, 01:28:04 AM
So much to digest in one day thanks to schwarzmoor  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302920.html#msg302920)

Most interesting to me is the 3 legs in South America and the 9 tags at the Auckland Skytower Fast Forward? (with #1 missing) pointed out by Neobie so we either have ..
11 to start,
2 or 3 teams eliminated in South America ..(3 legs)
8 or 9 teams going to Auckland
8 or 7 teams going into Cambodia
7 or 6 teams going to India (I'll go with 6, lol)

Is that Fast Forward sign at the Auckland tower always there or is it for the race? It doesn't look very racy to me  :lol:


(Betsey's photos are a great find as well Neobie)

Great job finding the places in the photo's everyone  :jumpy:
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Post by: Kogs on June 08, 2008, 01:47:50 AM
So much to digest in one day thanks to schwarzmoor  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302920.html#msg302920)

Most interesting to me is the 3 legs in South America and the 9 tags at the Auckland Skytower Fast Forward? (with #1 missing) pointed out by Neobie so we either have ..
11 to start,
2 or 3 teams eliminated in South America ..(3 legs)
8 or 9 teams going to Auckland
8 or 7 teams going into Cambodia
7 or 6 teams going to India (I'll go with 6, lol)

Is that Fast Forward sign at the Auckland tower always there or is it for the race? It doesn't look very racy to me  :lol:


(Betsey's photos are a great find as well Neobie)

Great job finding the places in the photo's everyone  :jumpy:

oh man the site of one of howard and sarans many breakdowns in tara1  :lol:
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 08, 2008, 01:50:45 AM

SO I have been thinking that May 5 could have been an extended pitstop?

Do the times on these shots make us question any of that? Or would those times help in sorting out the actual vs recorded camera times??

The pics taken in NZ have the time stamp from 04/27- 05/01 so the date could also be a day out (maybe he left his camera on a US time zone?)

I think until we work out what the 'time error' on the camera is, the times can only really be used relative to each other ie: Photo A was taken 15 hrs before Photo B etc
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 08, 2008, 01:52:35 AM

Is that Fast Forward sign at the Auckland tower always there or is it for the race? It doesn't look very racy to me  :lol:


I am relatively sure that FF sign is not usually there, but it doesn't look particularly racy either :lol:

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Post by: puddin on June 08, 2008, 02:00:38 AM

Is that Fast Forward sign at the Auckland tower always there or is it for the race? It doesn't look very racy to me  :lol:


I am relatively sure that FF sign is not usually there, but it doesn't look particularly racy either :lol:


Nothing like screaming "HEY EVERYBODY THE AMAZING RACE IS HERE!" right Mrs Shrek  :lol: ?
Maybe we can get a past racer to fill us in if they've seen this before? :angel:

eta: so the #1 is missing maybe it really is in progress? or is the staff clowning around?
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Post by: Neobie on June 08, 2008, 03:03:17 AM
With Puddin's help, we've been able to grab this off the photos...

1) The time is accurate in Moscow, comparing the EXIF data to the clock at the Kremlin.

2) Comparing the sunset at Salvador (5.22pm on 24 Apr) and Matt's watch in Delhi, the camera clock wasn't changed all the way through, and has been in sync with GMT +4. (When it's 5.22pm in Brazil at GMT -3, the camera thinks it's 12.22am; when it's 11.12am in Delhi at GMT +5.30, the camera thinks it's 9.42am.)

3) That means he last set his camera clock to somewhere in the region of... Armenia/Azerbaijan/Georgia, Mauritius/Reunion/Seychelles and Oman?!



So...

1) For Brazil, add one year, then minus 7 hours. (This assumes the clue box was set up on the 24th.)
2) For Auckland, add one year, then 8 hours.
3) For Cambodia, add one year, then 3 hours.
4) For India, add one year, and another 1.5 hours.
5) For Moscow, use the time stamp; but the date depends on whether he moved the time forwards or backwards.
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 08, 2008, 03:11:59 AM
3) That means he last set his camera clock to somewhere in the region of... Armenia/Azerbaijan/Georgia, Mauritius/Reunion/Seychelles and Oman?!

The fact that the date is also out by a year suggests that he didn't really bother setting it properly in the first place. Are we certain the day of the photos is correct, or could they be out by +/- 1 day also?
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 08, 2008, 03:37:02 AM
I'm just focussing on the Auckland set of pics at the moment.

Based on that time offset for his camera, the first blurry photo of the sky tower taken at night is quite likely to be taken when the crew first arrived in NZ cos 18:58 +6hrs gives a time of around 1am on 04/28

The Maori guy's pictures are around 17:00 on 04/30 and may be able to be confirmed from the watch picture below?

But this makes the photos of the Fast Forward and the blonde girl between 04:50am and 6am, which given the sky walk is usually open between 10am to 4.30pm, and it is winter time too, seems a bit unusual. I would have thought doing it in the dark wouldn't be as scarey cos you couldn't see the ground. :duno:

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-37.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 08, 2008, 03:51:30 AM

Is that Fast Forward sign at the Auckland tower always there or is it for the race? It doesn't look very racy to me  :lol:


I am relatively sure that FF sign is not usually there, but it doesn't look particularly racy either :lol:



The sign definately wasn't in the pic taken a couple of days before hand.

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Post by: apskip on June 08, 2008, 08:11:20 AM
Two items from recently:

1. The Fast Forward sign does not have to be "***y" because it is seldom going to be seen on the final TV edit of an Amazing Race. That sign is primarily for the benefit of other teams who may arrive at any time.

2. The fact that the number board below it has 9 numbers is not very relevant for anything. The highest number of Fast Forward-aspiring teams I can ever remember (and that may have been on Amazing Race Asia) is 3. Any team that wants to stay in the competition is not going to compete for the Fast Forward after another team has arrived unless they can figure out that it will be short (such as the Gaghan family in AR8 Family Edition).
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Post by: apskip on June 08, 2008, 08:24:08 AM
With Puddin's help, we've been able to grab this off the photos...

1) The time is accurate in Moscow, comparing the EXIF data to the clock at the Kremlin.

2) Comparing the sunset at Salvador (5.22pm on 24 Apr) and Matt's watch in Delhi, the camera clock wasn't changed all the way through, and has been in sync with GMT +4. (When it's 5.22pm in Brazil at GMT -3, the camera thinks it's 12.22am; when it's 11.12am in Delhi at GMT +5.30, the camera thinks it's 9.42am.)

3) That means he last set his camera clock to somewhere in the region of... Armenia/Azerbaijan/Georgia, Mauritius/Reunion/Seychelles and Oman?!



So...

1) For Brazil, add one year, then minus 7 hours. (This assumes the clue box was set up on the 24th.)
2) For Auckland, add one year, then 8 hours.
3) For Cambodia, add one year, then 3 hours.
4) For India, add one year, and another 1.5 hours.
5) For Moscow, use the time stamp; but the date depends on whether he moved the time forwards or backwards.

Neobie, Moscow is GMT +3. Since Moscow and London are both on Daylight Savings Time (and were in May), there is no +/- adjustment to be made for differences in DST status. the reason that it appears to you that the clock is GMT +4 is the Daylight Savings Time, but that does not alter the official time zone Moscow is in, it just shifts the entier time zone.

Also in DST+3 are Iraq (not likely), Saudi Arabia(quite possible), United Arab Emirates, Yemen, and several northeast African countries.
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Post by: Neobie on June 08, 2008, 09:07:21 AM
Oh, daylight saving! So he probably didn't adjust his camera clock - it's showing the same time in Russia's DST, all over the world.

Following this, Phil was at Tonle Sap on 4 May at 7.19am, and Mom/Son at 9.26am. Works into the grand scheme of things!

Teams arrive in Auckland morning of the 2nd and have a leg there. While they are having their Pit Stop, Phil sneaks onto a flight on the morning of the 3rd (thanks Apskip). As our racers get released, they take afternoon flights towards Cambodia, and get snagged on Hours of Operation that evening. The Cambodia leg then starts proper on the morning of the 4th - dragging on to give us the 11.30ish sightings at Angkor Wat!

Teams leave on the morning of the 6th, so something must have held up the teams. An extended Pit Stop (as mentioned earlier)? Highly possible.



The blurry Auckland Sky Tower would have been taken at 3am, 28 Apr; the jumpsuit girl at 3.20pm the next day; and Maori guy 7.07pm on 30 Apr. The Fast Forward's ready for use, and maybe even used (missing #1 tag), 2 May 6.51am. Does this make sense? (Something tells me the timings should be slightly later.)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 08, 2008, 12:51:39 PM
In the Salvador shots of the Matt picture set there is a Whiteboard reference to 19BC.  And 19 BC is shown on a building that he has shots of.

Turns out that 19 BC is military base:  2° Companhia do 19° Batalhão de caçadores Operacionais (You Tube Link here (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Dydyr2FTvY8&feature=related))

And if you watch the video you will see the Badge for the 19° BC.  That same Badge appears on the sticker that Mr. Purple Shirt wears.  But in the sticker it is in conjunction with Film Planet Group (http://www.filmplanet.com/site_en.htm).  They boast about doing work for TAR before (Season 9).

I think in, sum and substance, 19 BC will turn out to be nothing more than just a dormitory for production.

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Post by: apskip on June 08, 2008, 01:24:57 PM


Based on that time offset for his camera, the first blurry photo of the sky tower taken at night is quite likely to be taken when the crew first arrived in NZ cos 18:58 +6hrs gives a time of around 1am on 04/28

The Maori guy's pictures are around 17:00 on 04/30 and may be able to be confirmed from the watch picture below?

But this makes the photos of the Fast Forward and the blonde girl between 04:50am and 6am, which given the sky walk is usually open between 10am to 4.30pm, and it is winter time too, seems a bit unusual. I would have thought doing it in the dark wouldn't be as scarey cos you couldn't see the ground. :duno:

Neobie, I think you have it correct. LAN801 landed around 0355 on May 2 at Auckland International Airport. A Fast Forward dash would have ensued, with arrival in the 5am time frame by whichever teams went fof it. We know that at least one team did and that any others teams did nto stay at the Sky Tower.
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Post by: Boingo on June 08, 2008, 03:01:09 PM
 :lol:  Who knew? .... Rio Branco Palace and top of Elevador Lacerda are right next to each other...  :groan:

 :funny: :snicker: ;) :lol:   oh well....   :-[

(http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1599/indexcas53uizir3.th.jpg) (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcas53uizir3.jpg)

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Post by: Boingo on June 08, 2008, 04:01:03 PM
 :colors   This is the Alexander Garden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Garden_%28Moscow%29) along the western wall of the Kremlin (Moscow)
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Post by: Boingo on June 08, 2008, 04:30:23 PM
 :angel:  Been wondering about Matts picture of this woman in Moscow.  Could she be the pitstop greeter (some kind of local celebrity) ???  If not, then she still has good taste in cars.  Pretty sure it's a Lamborghini.     :tup:   probably local production staff, not her car. :'(

Edited to add:  Could it really be a Lamborghini Reventon ---> $1.4M   :yess:
    ...more likely it's only the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Coupe ---> $313K   :(

eta: picture likely taken at the Porte Couche of the Swissotel Krasny Holmy Moscow

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Post by: puddin on June 08, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
She looks like a undercover spy, very pretty though. I bet Matt was pleased hanging out with her  :flirt:.

I was looking through Betsy's photos and theres another set (http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/46/Le_Meridien_Angkor_Hotel#) (okay well I didn't notice before). Maybe you can find something spoilerish Boingo since you seem like you want something to do. :sucks

eta: I just noticed that she works for creatv which we know well. And TVC which might be the same?
http://www.crea-tv.com/

Betsy:
Work-kiti-work Apr 27, '08 11:22 AM
for everyone
Start:      Apr 25, '08
End:      May 7, '08
Location:      Siem Reap, Cambodia
Prep-Shoot-Wrap

:D
Tags: creatv, navigator, siem reap, cambodia, angkor, temples, tvc, shooting
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Post by: Boingo on June 08, 2008, 04:48:16 PM
Maybe you can find something spoilerish Boingo since you seem like you want something to do. :sucks

I'd rather look at pretty girls and really really expensive cars...  :neener:   :sucks 
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Post by: puddin on June 08, 2008, 05:14:41 PM
Siem Reap blog (http://www.shannabright.com/On_The_Bright_Side/Blog/Entries/2008/5/5_Entertainment_Gossip.html)~ :badhorse:

5/5/08

WAIT - THERE’s MORE!!!

On the second to the last day in Siem Reap, Sara and I were enjoying a beer in the bar of our hotel.  A bunch of men (lots of cute ones) started gathering, all part of some group.  It sounded like they were talking fim and/or TV production and Sara and I were trying to listen in on their conversations.  Just then, a big guy with a huge camera came in and so we had to stop him and ask.

He would only tell us that he was working on a documentary and played way to dumb about what the show was or if there was a host (job opportunity for me?) or what channel we could find the program on later.  This made me curious because I know that film and TV people love to brag about their work and what their are producing.  Him being so secretive made me question the program.

All week, Sara and I saw a special check-in desk for WRP.  And onthe last day in Siem Reap, when I was at my computer, I did some research and found the answer - World Race Productions.  As Sara and I were waiting to go to to the airport, I asked one of the hotel staff if WRP stood for World Race Productions and got a, “That’s correct.”  And as we waited, we saw a WRP van pull up and two people get out with matching red t-shirts.

There’s no doubt in my mind that the Amazing Race was being filmed there.  It’s quite a let-down, though to realize that the contestants and crew are put up in 5-star hotels like the Le Meridian in Siem Reap.  Very disappointing!

Cheers,
Shanna
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 08, 2008, 05:26:43 PM
Check it out !!  :funny:

Same Box !

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Post by: north09 on June 08, 2008, 05:58:29 PM
She looks like a undercover spy

haha if only they did that again. "The sky is blue"...
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 01:07:16 AM
 :snicker:  Found it!  Terminal Maritimo

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Post by: Chateau d If on June 09, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
I bet that inside this box they keep the Pit Stop display.  The one that can say the name of the city and country.


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Post by: Chateau d If on June 09, 2008, 10:39:28 AM
And I can almost make out the address and phone-number on it !   :lol:

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6561/10ig8.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ig8.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 12:16:45 PM
 :jumpy: Found it!  Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo

  :ascared  well hidden among the shadows....  :snicker:

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3619/61923788ee7.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61923788ee7.jpg)(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2161/62917854cn1.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62917854cn1.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
And I can almost make out the address and phone-number on it !   :lol:

 :snics:    Looks like 200 W. Continental Blvd., El Segundo, CA

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Post by: apskip on June 09, 2008, 03:19:10 PM
Boingo,

The corporate address is World Race Production Company, 4120 Del Rey Avenue Marina Dl Rey, CA 90292. However, the other address for WRP is the one you found at 200 Continental Boulevard El Segundo 90245, which is the one on the trunk.
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 03:31:59 PM
If you guys are thru playing with box's?  :lol: I'll bump this up (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299872.html#msg299872) for Boingo.

 

*The bahian capital is the scene chosen for the writings of reality American show "the Maratona", an international competition where teams cover some countries fulfilling a series of tasks. The program, that counts today on a hearing of more than 50 million people per year, already is being recorded in some of the main tourist points of Salvador.

*In the morning of this thursday (day 24), the competitors of reality show had had that to go down, in the style rappel, the 70 meters of the Lacerda Elevator. To carry through the test, that called the attention who passed for the place, the filming team installed a net to the long one of the elevator.

*Still inside of the actions of the program, new writings are foreseen tomorrow, of this time in the Maritime Terminal of Salvador, in the Commerce.

* Until the moment, already they had served of location for the international production the Square of the Sé, the Inclined Plan Gonçalves, the Order Third of the San Francisco (Historical Center), the Slope of the Carmo and the staircase of the Paço
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 03:38:51 PM
Thanks, Puddin.   :jam: One says the 21st, one the 23rd, and one the 25th: but the guy in the red helmet (Branament?) hasn't moved an inch.  :lol:
Maybe the single lines went down first as support or guide lines for the cargo net.
The white board in Matt's Brazil set mention a Joe Branam SR & Joe Branam Jr so good call Slowhatch  :jam:

http://www.branament.com/about.php
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 04:00:11 PM
If you guys are thru playing with box's?  :lol: I'll bump this up (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg299872.html#msg299872) for Boingo.

 

*The bahian capital is the scene chosen for the writings of reality American show "the Maratona", an international competition where teams cover some countries fulfilling a series of tasks. The program, that counts today on a hearing of more than 50 million people per year, already is being recorded in some of the main tourist points of Salvador.

*In the morning of this thursday (day 24), the competitors of reality show had had that to go down, in the style rappel, the 70 meters of the Lacerda Elevator. To carry through the test, that called the attention who passed for the place, the filming team installed a net to the long one of the elevator.

*Still inside of the actions of the program, new writings are foreseen tomorrow, of this time in the Maritime Terminal of Salvador, in the Commerce.

* Until the moment, already they had served of location for the international production the Square of the Sé, the Inclined Plan Gonçalves, the Order Third of the San Francisco (Historical Center), the Slope of the Carmo and the staircase of the Paço

 :lol:  talk about burying something on page 2 of this thread... looks like we got all but two of the places mentioned.  The new ones are the Inclined Plane (funicular) of Gonçalves and the Square of the Sé (Praça da Sé).  Both are in the same area as the Maritime Terminal, Sandwich shop, Holy Sacrament Church (with the stairs), Third Order of St. Francis (near Sao Francisco Church & convent & cluebox), and the Elevator.

Here's a few more links:
The Elevators & Funiculars of SALVADOR (http://www.tramz.com/br/sv/f/f.html)
Historic Salvador (http://www.portugalnetwork.com/Brazil.htm)
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7095/indexne8.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexne8.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 04:17:13 PM
Thanks Boingo  :jumpy:, I think you have leg 1 is pretty well covered.

>>  :sucks because I can
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 04:27:36 PM
Thanks Boingo  :jumpy:, I think you have leg 1 is pretty well covered.

yep, I'm about ready to move on... BUT that leaves the question about the pitstop ???   Pure speculation, but as WRP and BVM love to use FORTS for pitstops, how about the Forte São Marcelo (that little round island west of the Maritime Terminal.  Makes you wonder why they would have the racers go to a maritime terminal if not to sail somewhere.  That somewhere could be the fort.  Maybe they have to row themselves, as it's not that far.   :angel:  OK, my brain is overheating again.... must stop thinking.... must stop..... 

oh no, it's the "dancing muffin"....   :sucks 
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 05:30:39 PM
Neobie? I'm pretty sure noted the tape at the bottom of the Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo (thanks Boingo) first. So do the drummers have something to do with whatever the task maybe? Check out the yellow & orange/red drums.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/brazil/sub/09Jun0050.jpg)

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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
Who gets the hair gel Boingo? Whats the chainsaw for?  :lol:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/brazil/sub/a1c69151.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/matts/brazil/sub/9e745b05.jpg)
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Post by: Neobie on June 09, 2008, 06:06:33 PM
Mosquito nets? Insect repellent? Ziplock bags?
(Know just a little bit about military operations in the jungle, and these look awfully familiar to me...)

A chainsaw comes in handy for fallen trees, so...

Leg Two: the Amazon?!
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
Mosquito nets? Insect repellent? Ziplog bags?
(Know just a little bit about military operations in the jungle, and these look awfully familiar to me...)

A chainsaw comes in handy for fallen trees, so...

Leg Two: the Amazon?!

 :ythat:

...the drummers look like holdouts from the samba parade during Carnival.

...I really like the "clothing repellent"....  never know when you'll have to defend yourself against an unprovoked "clothing attack"...  :funny:
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 06:28:25 PM
I want them to go to the Amazon Neobie, namely Sucre, I want to see the Dinosaurs  (http://travellingchris.blogspot.com/2007/06/sucre-dinosaurs.html)  :angel:


heres the tape for the stairs @ Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo

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Post by: Neobie on June 09, 2008, 06:48:35 PM
Leg Two might be in our hands, guys...

Following the whiteboard for the 24th, JJ 8006 for Paolo Olivier comes in from Fortaleza. (That gives the 5.45pm timing.) Now with the "BC" mystery solved by Chateau, we know "Bas Pot" leaves Salvador on JJ 8003. That flies from Buenos Aires, to Sao Paulo, to Salvador, to Fortaleza.

In other news, JJ 3179 for Giselle and JJ 3173 for Erin go back to Sao Paulo. TAP 156 for Darren Bunkley goes to Lisbon. (Lisbon? Portugal? Sequesterville?)

What do you guys make of this?
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 07:03:43 PM
Ah see I knew it sounded familiar ..this was in early on and I think apskips noted it as well.
Now Darren for sure was in Cambodia so says Betsy (http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/47/Angkor_Memories#10) but well I dunno  :lol:




Why would they go to Argentina when they are heading north from Sao Paulo to Salvador de Bahia?

Cou ld be they head next to Fortaleza and then catch a TACV flight on Saturday to the Cape Verde Islandsl.  Just to keep the teams headed toward new locations.
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Post by: Boingo on June 09, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
 :jumpy:  Oh look!   Matt really did visit a fort....   but, is it the Forte São Marcelo ???

hmmm..... I think you can see the only cannon in the GE picture below, along with the curving ramp.  :yess:

(http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6131/indexlg6.th.jpg) (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexlg6.jpg)(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/600/indexcazkpux8ne4.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcazkpux8ne4.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 09, 2008, 07:35:08 PM
Heres info:
Darren Bunkley
Producer (Field)      The Amazing Race 13      CBS      01/08-05/08

 http://realitystaff.com/?id=36515
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Post by: apskip on June 09, 2008, 09:23:47 PM
One chainsaw does not a forest cut. For 10 teams in leg 2 you need 10 chainsaws. The stacking and wait for the last team would be fairly severe if you didn't have enough. I am not saying they did not go to the Amazon, but it should be noted that Manaus is quite hard to get in and out of by air. Belem is more of a port city than representative of the Amazon forests and jungle.

Chainsaws are also useful for potential team tasks that do not involve forest cutting. However, it is most likely that the chainsaw was used by production for some unknown purpose.
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Post by: apskip on June 09, 2008, 09:45:51 PM
Neobie, Fortaleza has always made good sense but we needed some evidence that AR13 was there. I believe that the WRP staff guy returning from Fortaleza is a good enough reason. I am going to try it out my next edition of the Timeline.
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 09, 2008, 10:44:35 PM
This thread I hope (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.0.html)
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Post by: anon1akacolby on June 09, 2008, 11:12:51 PM
Holy shhhhhhhhmoley!  schwarzie hit the jackpot!!  This is almost as big as Izad's Malaysian spoiler.  Great job schwarzie!  RFF does it again!!!  THE best site for TAR spoilers.   :yess:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 01:19:44 AM
In conjunction with Praça da Sé I found our Bahiana (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh3.google.com/_Gh1HB3MOKWM/RzXw3EY5-rI/AAAAAAAABP8/xTV-rLO7Iq0/s800/Salvador%2B466.jpg&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uU0ouh_G-O30wxk_h_umxA&h=800&w=600&sz=73&hl=en&start=23&um=1&tbnid=GjGo3m5I1dYIYM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBahiana%26start%3D21%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)

And this location is also known for the Cruz Caída (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4269942)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/inuruguay/RzXw3EY5-rI/AAAAAAAABP8/QEt432OFNjU/Salvador%20466.jpg?imgmax=640)


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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 01:49:04 AM
Leg Two might be in our hands, guys...

Following the whiteboard for the 24th, JJ 8006 for Paolo Olivier comes in from Fortaleza. (That gives the 5.45pm timing.) Now with the "BC" mystery solved by Chateau, we know "Bas Pot" leaves Salvador on JJ 8003. That flies from Buenos Aires, to Sao Paulo, to Salvador, to Fortaleza.

In other news, JJ 3179 for Giselle and JJ 3173 for Erin go back to Sao Paulo. TAP 156 for Darren Bunkley goes to Lisbon. (Lisbon? Portugal? Sequesterville?)

What do you guys make of this?

I dunno, I was working this too and I could not get past the way nobody else is going there.  So many other production staffers are going to Sao Paulo and from there to several possibilities.  I'm sure Apskip can come up with a list of 47 destinations out of Sao Paulo.  Unfortunately, they left out the time of Bas Pot's flight.  So we don't know if it was Bas Pot arriving from Sao Paulo on TAM 8003 at 8:30 am or Bas Pot leaving to Fortaleza  on TAM 8003 at 11:30 am.   :duno:
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Post by: Neobie on June 10, 2008, 02:56:28 AM
What if BAS POT was an acronym or codeword for something along the lines of "everyone"? I've looked through the lists of staff throughout the seasons, pages of different languages in Google, and, frankly, Bas Pot doesn't really sound like a name to me...

If "Bas Pot" was headed to the airport from 19BC, that probably means he/she is leaving from Salvador, is that right?
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 10, 2008, 09:02:21 AM
"Bas" is short for Sebastian (http://tv.yahoo.com/sebastian-pot/contributor/2272212).
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 09:52:09 AM
Excellent work Slowhatch!   :tup:

I can't tell you how hard I looked for a person named Bas Pot involved in the TV biz.

Maybe he has to return the chainsaw.   :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 09:59:40 AM
Quote
If "Bas Pot" was headed to the airport from 19BC, that probably means he/she is leaving from Salvador, is that right?

90% per cent agreeance with you on that.  The minor 10% comes from the weak interpretation that "Direct to airport from 19BC" may refer to how Bas Pot gets picked up.   :duno:

But, I know, it likely is Bas Pot going to Fortaleza. 

On the other hand(s), why isn't anybody else going there? 
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Post by: Boingo on June 10, 2008, 10:21:03 AM
 :badhorse:
Drummers seem to be a common sight in the Pelourhino neghborhood of Salvador.  These seem to be younger and sans "red drums". 

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6711/indexcazvp9wuvc8.th.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcazvp9wuvc8.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 10, 2008, 11:40:55 AM
 :sucks  Looks like Matt stayed at the Pestana Bahia Hotel (http://www.pestana.com/hotels/en/hotels/southamerica/BahiaHotels/Bahia/Home/PestanaBahia.htm), along with the cast & crew.  Neobie got it.

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5715/indexcafx1z0mup7.th.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcafx1z0mup7.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 10, 2008, 12:15:07 PM
 :whever: :smoke :lol:

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Post by: georgiapeach on June 10, 2008, 12:32:22 PM
WOW guys!  Puddin, Chateau, Boingo, Neobie, apskip, Mrs Shrek....
All of you detectives have done an Amazing job! Excellent work by you all! :party: :yourock:

And after the bare bones race of TAR 12, I'm kind of glad to see that production has a few $$ to spend again! Sigh, my dream job!

Keep 'em coming!! 
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 01:08:17 PM
Note to WRP:

Regarding the above thinly veiled hint, I have never met a person more capable at handling multiple tasks and complicated information.  And I have met her.  Her people handling skills are especially valuable.  Y'all would be well served to make an inquiry of her.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 10, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
awwww...I love you too! :kissy:

My first reference!  :yess:

But what would y'all DO without me? :lol3:


Back to spoilers before we mess up puddin's pretty thread anymore....
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 10, 2008, 01:47:50 PM
Here is another capture of a TAR Pit Stop board. It is from the first leg of Season 12.  Some people may think that the board only gives the country that the Pit Stop is in.  However, if you are observant and look closely at those occasions when it is view, you will see that they also give the city or town or general local within the country.  LMcbW.

It clearly displays both the city and the country of the location of the Pit Stop.

If there is any doubt for the vision impaired, this example says CLIFDEN in white letters over IRELAND in larger yellow letters.  That Pit Stop was located near the town of Clifden, Ireland (http://www.connemara.ie/connemara/clifden/).

And if you look at the previous example that I put up you can even see the name of the town in that one too.

First person to get it right wins a sucker.   ;)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-38.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-39.jpg)

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Post by: puddin on June 10, 2008, 02:21:53 PM
Yeah peach I've been thinking about breaking it off into its own thread? but what to name it? Poor Matts been through the ringer enough  :lol:
..I'm just as guilty getting off topic but while I'm here a shout out to Slowhatch "Bas Pot"  :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 10, 2008, 02:34:48 PM
No, please leave the spoilers right here, cuz that's what they are! And when we finally get vidcaps we'll be ready! :happy:

But oh yes, I still feel badly for Matt...but he isn't the first Producer to inadvertently help us...and besides, there is NO such thing as BAD publicity, right? It just makes us even more excited for the next airing! :ghug:

And I know! Slowhatch wins!  :yess: I thought it must be a Cambodian village! :lol:



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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 10, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
No, please leave the spoilers right here, cuz that's what they are! And when we finally get vidcaps we'll be ready! :happy:

But oh yes, I still feel badly for Matt...but he isn't the first Producer to inadvertently help us...and besides, there is NO such thing as BAD publicity, right? It just makes us even more excited for the next airing! :ghug:

And I know! Slowhatch wins!  :yess: I thought it must be a Cambodian village! :lol:

I am so excitted about TAR 13, I can tell it is gonna be a great one!!.
 :wohoo:


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 10, 2008, 02:55:41 PM
Here is another capture of a TAR Pit Stop board. It is from the first leg of Season 12.  Some people may think that the board only gives the country that the Pit Stop is in.  However, if you are observant and look closely at those occasions when it is view, you will see that they also give the city or town or general local within the country.  LMcbW.

It clearly displays both the city and the country of the location of the Pit Stop.


And if you look at the previous example that I put up you can even see the name of the town in that one too.

First person to get it right wins a sucker.   ;)

Wins a sucker? Or IS a sucker? :lol:

But    B I N G O and Bingo was his name!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2008, 03:21:08 PM
Okay from here on spoilers start now! Anything other than something related to spoilers will be moved to the speculation thread.

..............3 --2 --1------- go!

eta: any kudos for a job well done will be alllowed :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
So you want to talk about the pictures in this thread so moving on....for New Delhi I found this:
Radhey Shiam Balkishan & Sons
Since its production maybe the "grains" is a task? These are dated May 7 but we decided that its May 8th? I'm confused on the dates.
And Lawrence Travels & Tours (P) LtdLawrence Travels & Tours


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Post by: Kogs on June 10, 2008, 11:22:05 PM

the travel agency was used cause you cant book international tickets at the airport in india


edited to find the reply
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Post by: Boingo on June 11, 2008, 12:57:47 AM
 :js:  OK, movin' on to India.... like shootin' fish in a barrel... got another one  :yess:

Matt (cast & crew) stayed at the Le Méridien New Delhi (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/lemeridien/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=1831)   :lol:

also included a pix I found on the web of a tourist in the lobby.
(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1387/01sep0038zh9.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0038zh9.jpg)(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3782/01sep0039xq7.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0039xq7.jpg)(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8622/01sep0040ct5.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0040ct5.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 02:24:47 AM
Edited because wrong country entirely is pretty bad.... :lol:



But hey--are they going to have to run up and down that red  tower? And who's making me a MAP??  :nuala:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 02:26:28 AM
Great job on the grain guy puddin!

Since the photos really focus in on the sledge, the HOOK, and the large grain sacks--I'll bet they are doing some hauling!
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 02:50:54 AM
Since our friend is pointing directly UP at the face, do y'all think this is the face they have to match?? ???

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7306/01sep0041ng9.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sep0041ng9.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 11, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
Never mind!     :angel:    move along...nothin' to see here....
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Post by: apskip on June 11, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
So you want to talk about the pictures in this thread so moving on....for New Delhi I found this:
Radhey Shiam Balkishan & Sons
Since its production maybe the "grains" is a task? These are dated May 7 but we decided that its May 8th? I'm confused on the dates.

puddin, if you wish to be less confused on timing, consult the latest Timetable in the Timetables and Flight Information thread. We had the spotting of teams in Dubai airport on the morning of May 8 as indicated by JonLover(post 150 in this Spoilers thread). That could only happen if they left Delhi on May 7.

edited to find the reply
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 09:03:15 AM
That's what I get for posting in the middle of the night!  :iok

So sorry Boingo!!   :-[ :-[ :-[
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Post by: Boingo on June 11, 2008, 09:18:24 AM
OK, getting back to India, looks like some of Matts historical site pix were taken at the Qutub Minar complex
 (http://www.asiaexplorers.com/india/qutub_minar.htm)
(like Chateau sort of said)  :angel:
:whever: ... I'll leave it to y'all to thumb through the link.  Done.  What's next.   :lol:

peach: I'm going to have to keep an eye on you from now on...  :browsie:   :<3
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 11, 2008, 09:50:58 AM
Hey, I sort of said that (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302983.html#msg302983).

Opps, never mind.
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Post by: Boingo on June 11, 2008, 10:31:03 AM
 :colors  pretty pictures of New Delhi (http://www.galenfrysinger.com/new_delhi.htm)   ;)
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
So you want to talk about the pictures in this thread so moving on....for New Delhi I found this:
Radhey Shiam Balkishan & Sons
Since its production maybe the "grains" is a task? These are dated May 7 but we decided that its May 8th? I'm confused on the dates.

puddin, if you wish to be less confused on timing, consult the latest Timetable in the Timetables and Flight Information thread. We had the spotting of teams in Dubai airport on the morning of May 8 as indicated by JonLover(post 150 in this Spoilers thread). That could only happen if they left Delhi on May 7.

edited to find the reply
But the production/Delhi photos begin on May 6th and end on May 9th then pick up again on May 10th in Moscow. Did Matt/production hang around in Delhi extra days or was Delhi longer than we originally thought and Dubai not even in the picture? The evidence for Dubai/airport was not solid if I recall.
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Post by: beau_30 on June 11, 2008, 11:00:51 AM
Hey,

I'm new the forum. And I just want to say you guys are excellent in doing all this spoiling...

i've been to this forum once before.. but just been reading... since the very first post..
And I just have to say you all make my day..

So i decided to finally join..
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
:welcome: beau

So I was thinking and could be totally off here but, :res:  ..could the sightings in Dubai have been TAR3 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15379.0.html)? I'm thinking they started sooner than we originally thought?

eta: probably not TARA3 afterall, thanks apskips
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Post by: JonLover on June 11, 2008, 11:24:11 AM
I have spoken to the Dubai blogger and he could not really confirm the sighting at the airport. The "news" was passed on him only by a friend.

I did go out two weeks ago to have a little detective job but there was no affirmative answer of any TAR going to Dubai.

I went to almost all the famous landmarks around the city and asked some people working in the vicinity but they couldn't tell something about the TAR. I tried asking some people also at the airport and they were all puzzled and clueless. I also tried riding taxis to ask the drivers but to no avail.
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Post by: apskip on June 11, 2008, 11:33:51 AM
boingo, New Delhi is totally separate from Delhi even though they are adjacent. It is possible that AR13 went to New Delhi, but the traditional India is on display in Delhi while New Delhi is more of a modern commercial city. As best I can tell, the visit of AR1, episode 7 was the only one previously to Delhi or New Delhi. AR1 teams (except for Frank and Margarita who went directly to the pitstop with the Fast Forward) landed at Indira Gandhi International Airport, definitely in New Delhi. Then they went to Old Delhi to visit a market. Next they went ot the Red Fort(still in Delhi), where the Chandi Chowk market is where they got their next clue, a statue of the Taj Mahal. This episode ended in Agra. Other visits to India by Amazing Races were:

AR4 Mumbai, Aleppy
AR5 Calcutta
AR7 Lucknow, Jodhpur
AR10 Chennai
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 01:12:45 PM

 And who's making me a MAP??  :nuala:
I would love one of Boingo's where has Matt been in India maps as well :<3
And nice detective work JonLover  :tup:
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Post by: Boingo on June 11, 2008, 05:44:59 PM
 :jumpy: Got it!  Matt took this picture from the Swissôtel Krasnye Holmy Moscow (http://www.swissotel.com/EN/Destinations/Russia/Swissotel+Krasnye+Holmy/Hotel+Home/Hotel+Description) which just happens to be next to the Moscow International Performance Arts Center   :angel:
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/82/indexan8.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexan8.jpg)(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3360/18440436lj2.th.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18440436lj2.jpg)

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Post by: Neobie on June 11, 2008, 06:52:23 PM
I'm afraid I might have to cast extra doubt on Dubai...

The blog on Dubai, posted at 1.04am on May 8th, says "I didnt expect the news that i heard last night". If the timestamp belongs to Dubai or Philippines time, the sighting would have been on or before the 6th. Even if we use the generous US timezone, it would suggest the sighting was at least on the 7th.

Teams fly from Cambodia to India on the 6th (I'm reading this correctly, am I not?), arriving that evening in Delhi after most Hours of Operation. Is there any way we could make this work out?

Chateau? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.504.html) Post 504? :lol:
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 07:09:46 PM
:jumpy: Got it!  Matt took this picture from the Swissôtel Krasnye Holmy Moscow (http://www.swissotel.com/EN/Destinations/Russia/Swissotel+Krasnye+Holmy/Hotel+Home/Hotel+Description) which just happens to be next to the Moscow International Performance Arts Center   :angel:



Good job Boingo  :jumpy:, I was up and down that canal/river and was thinking Hotel but I was so LOST  :yess:

I'm afraid I might have to cast extra doubt on Dubai...

The blog on Dubai, posted at 1.04am on May 8th, says "I didnt expect the news that i heard last night". If the timestamp belongs to Dubai or Philippines time, the sighting would have been on or before the 6th. Even if we use the generous US timezone, it would suggest the sighting was at least on the 7th.

Teams fly from Cambodia to India on the 6th (I'm reading this correctly, am I not?), arriving that evening in Delhi after most Hours of Operation. Is there any way we could make this work out?

Chateau? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.504.html) Post 504? :lol:

I never took Dubai as gospel Neobie  :sucks , I think they spend more time in Delhi/New Delhi per Matt's time that he spent in India. Now if only I could twist someones are to make me a little map of where Matt has been in New Delhi  :snicker:  :kuss:
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Post by: Neobie on June 11, 2008, 08:07:46 PM
Your wish, my command! :lol:

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3892/delhidm3.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
I didn't even know that you had found the red haired man or the rick shaw ride Neobie  :jumpy:, now that I have a visual its not as spread out as I thought it would be  :ty   :hearts:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 08:59:16 PM
I can't believe you found the rick-shaw ride! WOW! :happy:

And is the redheaded man where the grain task is please? ???

I'm so stealing this for MAPS! :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
Muhuahuahuah! *evil laugh*

One thing leads to another - check out the names on the whiteboard!

http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/47/Angkor_Memories (http://betsyds.multiply.com/photos/album/47/Angkor_Memories)
So whos the Mole :spy: ?
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 10:38:16 PM
I can't check it out...it wants me to sign in... :'(
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 10:42:06 PM
I can't check it out...it wants me to sign in... :'(
Well Betsy's photos are gone so don't bother peach  :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 10:46:48 PM
Drat! They are SOOOO selfish! :lol3:

I like Betsy...she seems very nice....
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Post by: Neobie on June 11, 2008, 11:06:24 PM
:duno: What's the point of hiding photos now that we already have them?

Got the rickshaw from the signs in the various photos: Prahlad Cloth Store turns up an address in
"Nai Sarak, Delhi" on Google, and another sign in the next photo seems to confirm that. The red-haired man location came from a sign in the background as well (how helpful!).

ETA: Is this the cow (http://americanairlines.wcities.com/en/record/117,319918/684/record.html)?

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/84/97469762jg5.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97469762jg5.jpg)(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1621/58586738ry3.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58586738ry3.jpg)(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7308/99584633ab0.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99584633ab0.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 11:22:04 PM
Okay...

"Neobie got the cow" just went down in the RFF annals for best quote ever! :cow

:congrats: :hfive:  :yess:

:funny: :funny: :funny:
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Post by: puddin on June 11, 2008, 11:24:27 PM
You never cease to amaze us Neobie and that goes for all our amazing detectives  :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2008, 11:29:26 PM
Don't forget to put the beef on the map!  :hearts:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 11, 2008, 11:37:31 PM

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Chateau? Post 504?

Oh frika frak, frik, frik, frik.

I must be blind.  I should have known, that was too easy of a find.   :groan:
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Post by: Neobie on June 11, 2008, 11:47:42 PM
Oops, wrong cow, guys! Sorry 'bout that! :-[

Here's (http://yellowpages.sulekha.com/delhi/food-dining/bars-nightclubs-pubs/vasant-vihar/hookah-mediterranean.htm) the real hookah, 'cos there's this (http://local.google.co.in/maps?hl=en&q=%22laxmi+opticals%22&near=New+Delhi,+Delhi+India&fb=1&view=text&cd=2&ie=UTF8&latlng=28567256,77162282,194144071454370011&ei=s6dQSNrIEaiKiAOt4bGICw) to back it up this time!

ETA: Did a bit more confirmation... There's the green and blue banner of Standard Chartered at 2-3 Basant Lok and the Reebok India Company at 6 Basant Lok... this is it guys! (Map upthread updated.)

(Chateau! I do that all the time!) :hugs:

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6882/indexcaczoi9ejl3.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaczoi9ejl3.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 12, 2008, 12:39:15 PM
 :jumpy:  this one was a little tougher to find...  :yess:


Matts "little red church" (aka All Saints Church not far from Red Square).


(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9186/76080847af7.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=76080847af7.jpg)(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2016/54580443sg1.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=54580443sg1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 12, 2008, 01:34:20 PM
:jumpy:  this one was a little tougher to find...  :yess:


Matts "little red church" (not far from Red Square).
Good job Boingo  :jumpy: !! Is that everything now? If so I'll be waiting on my "this is where Matt's been in Moscow map"  ;)  :angel:
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Post by: Boingo on June 12, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
 :wohoo:  Here ya go!

Matt Was Here (Moscow) map

note: Small red All Saints Church is directly across from Cyril & Methodius Monument (push-pin resoultion lost at this scale). Kremlin locations all bunched as "Red Square"   ;)

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3608/indexcac6tz5wwz8.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcac6tz5wwz8.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2008, 03:39:47 PM
Wow Boingo! :jumpy:

You guys are amazing!!

Stealing your map too please! ? :angel:

Now...What do we think? Did Matt go places there will be a task? Or was he aimlessly sightseeing? ???
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Post by: puddin on June 12, 2008, 04:23:25 PM
Oh Boingo  :hearts:, you guys are spoiling us :thankyou: .

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Post by: apskip on June 12, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
Peach, the report from Portland on arrival of the Finale teams was that they had originated in Moscow. That makes it logical that Moscow is indeed a pitstop. It's the teams that matter.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2008, 06:47:38 PM
Heee...I KNOW it was a pitstop!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg302202.html#msg302202


I'm just wondering if the places Matt visited in Delhi and Moscow will turn out to be challenge/task locations, or was he just sightseeing?

Maybe both?!

Puzzling over the redheaded man in India...I thought he was with the grains, but not so per Neobies Map...
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Post by: puddin on June 12, 2008, 07:21:47 PM

Puzzling over the redheaded man in India...I thought he was with the grains, but not so per Neobies Map...



Since the photos really focus in on the sledge, the HOOK, and the large grain sacks--I'll bet they are doing some hauling!
I believe red haired man is where you would purchase the nuts & grains? Is that right Neobie?  :sucks
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2008, 07:33:52 PM
I thought so too...but why are they so far apart? ???

Could he be about something else entirely?  :duno:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013%20MAPS/TAR13NeobiesMapRHman.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 12, 2008, 07:41:40 PM
,....because the powers that be are mean like that?  :sucks
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
 :neener:

Maybe the rickshaw ride is on the way to see Redheaded man?
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Post by: puddin on June 12, 2008, 08:25:48 PM
:neener:

Maybe the rickshaw ride is on the way to see Redheaded man?
Yeah, production gets a rickshaw and the contestants might have to hoof it? Thats what I'm thinking.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2008, 08:47:48 PM
That would be a looong way--at least 5 miles maybe?/

Heh--there is a big dairy plant near redheaded man...
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Post by: Boingo on June 13, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
 :badhorse:    :lol:  only because.....

Matts pix of Bulgakov Museum doorway and similar doorway in same area.

(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3171/indexvl5.th.jpg) (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexvl5.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on June 13, 2008, 11:54:47 AM
 :yess: Everything you ever wanted to know about the Bulgakov Museum (http://www.masterandmargarita.eu/en/04mappen/bolsjaja.html) in Moscow.

(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3171/indexvl5.th.jpg) (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexvl5.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 14, 2008, 09:46:45 PM
 :jumpy: Yippee! :jumpy:

I have news from La Paz!!  :hearts:

Our blogger from La Paz has been in the field with no Internet...but here's what she has oh so kindly replied to my many questions! (Bolds are mine...)


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Hi peach,

sorry I didn't reply earlier, we didn't have any internet access for the last 10 days.

As for your questions, it's a bit hard to remember (as I'm not as obsessed by details as you guys are!) but we are rather certain we saw the Amazing Race on May 28th in La Paz. They were in Plaza Abaroa (sometime called Plaza Avaroa), in the neighborhood of Sopocachi. From our apartment, we also noticed a lot of commotions and big tv lighting in the parc of the Monticulo, near Plaza Espana. I am like 80% sure the sign said U-Turn but as soon as I shouted "Oh my god it's the Amazing Race" some of the workers covered the sign. I know it wasn't one of those thing where you can put the picture of another team. So just a big yellow sign with the flag beneath it. What else... The bikes were similar to the ones on the picture you sent but less shabby looking. And they were next to wooden head gear with lots of feathers on it. I didn't see any teams. Oh, but also, there were lots of brass bands typical of Bolivia. I'm not sure why they were there. But there was more than one band, that's what caught our attention first because we thought there would be a parade.

I'm afraid that's it! Hope this helps your curiosity! Sorry there were no pictures taken.


This is puddin's wooden bike photo I sent...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13woodenbike.jpg)

And a HUGE thank you to C&W for the nice reply!!  :thankyou: :yourock:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 14, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
Here are some pics of headdresses:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13BolivianCarn-headdress.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13Bolivianfeatheredheaddress.jpg)

And a video:

And some info on the various dances:
http://www.madison.com/communities/boliviamanta/pages/Dances.php?php_page_set=0

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Tobas:
Originating from the Amazonian lowlands of Bolivia; the dance commemorates the clashes between Incan and Amazonian warriors. Tobas is noted for their spectacular masks, costumes and feather headdresses. The dance consist of jumping rhythmically to the sound of drums.


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Morenada

 The origin of the morenada goes back to the employment of black slaves in colonial Potosi, where the miners to replace the indigenous mitayos (pawns) bought them.

A satiric dance whose steps mimics the movement of the slaves that squashed grapes to make wine in colonial times.


The male dancers wear a cape artistically embroidered with geometrical shapes and stones,along with a hat made of metal adorned with ostritch feathers, a curly wig, a mask with a thick lower lip.




And a neat blog about the dances:

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The festival was at once the most entertaining, bizarre, disturbing and moving pageantry I have ever witnessed - this despite the repetitiveness of the music. It was entertaining because of the variety of costumes and dance. Bizarre because of the vehicles in the parade which were adorned with jewels, coins and silver service. Disturbing because of the extent that real feathers were used as part of the costumes, and moving because of the pageantry that took place in a cathedral that was part of the first evening's events.

The most famous of the Diablada dances is "La Morenada" which is a re-enactment of the dance of the African slaves. When I heard the steady clomp of wooden shoes with spurs coming down the street sounding eerily like the chains the slaves had to wear during their years of servitude in this part of the world, it sent chills down my spine.

I got into a few conversations with English-speaking performers behind the scenes who were wearing natural feathered headdresses, some cascading to the ground. We discussed the use of these feathers as part of their costumes and what it meant to the wildlife in their jungles. All agreed that this extravagance couldn't continue much longer.

The afternoon of the first day of the parade I followed the route to the end, curious as to what scene I would find there as the participants finished their performances. At the top of a hill in an open square I watched as performers, one-by-one, remove their head covers and masks, hats, plums, and then disappear into a large cathedral. I was not prepared for the spectacle I was about to encounter inside the edifice.

It was as if the church silenced the brass band that accompanied them. The silence was deafening. All had made their way to the front of the altar where a priest in full dress was blessing them en mass as they kneeled. I stood transfixed, looking out from the side of the altar at a sea of costumed mestizos and Indians. Their feathered headdresses and devil's masks were cradled in their arms. Their spears were standing tall against the vaulted ceilings. Following the brief ceremony, the brass band started playing again and continued while they approached the altar. Each person kneeled on the altar platform and slowly shuffled along it on their knees while solemnly gazing at the painting of the Virgin above. I can still see devil's masks moving slowly along the altar in the arms of the bearer while he or she gave reverence to the Virgin.

I left the cathedral that evening impressed with the degree that these people were moved spiritually. The next day this ceremony wasn't repeated. Nor was it the following Saturday at the next carnival I attended in nearby Cochabamba. I asked a dancer there why I had experienced this spiritual outpouring at the Oruro event and not at the Cochabamba one (which I observed to be more homespun). She said, 'The dancers in Oruro were dancing for the Virgin, the ones in Cochabamba were dancing for the Carnival'. I accepted the fact that I could only understand this difference by immersing myself deeper into Bolivia's rich culture.

All day and into each of the two nights parading brass bands blasted out the dynamic morenada music. Early in the morning of the second day Muriel, Stef and I attached ourselves to a dance group and snaked our way with them through town. As we moved along more and more people joined us, all dancing in rows arm-in-arm. An inclusive thought prevailed with this activity and nobody was considered an outsider. We all laughed and cajoled together at the end three hours later before parting ways. It made me realize how welcome a person could feel at this event even if they were alone.

http://www.hostels.com/en/tt/merrileecarnival.html



Wonder if one of our detours is bikes and one is dance Ala Kynt in Vinci last time? ???




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Post by: georgiapeach on June 14, 2008, 10:32:59 PM
Heee...I'm on a Headdress roll here! :rotf:

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Post by: georgiapeach on June 14, 2008, 11:11:16 PM
Arch at Monticulo

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13LaPazarchatMonticulo.jpg)

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At the upper end of a cobblestone street, it is a lover’s park with baroque colonnades and the stanzas of a tango to Mount Illimani inscribed on four rocks along the entrance path. From El Montículo, it is possible to see the distant, upper limits of the city, where streets abrupt into sheer cliff faces which, when it rains, crumble into the lower precincts of the neighborhood appropriately called Tembladerani
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 14, 2008, 11:33:38 PM
Plaza Abaroa

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13LaPazPlazaAbaroa.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 15, 2008, 10:11:53 AM
Thank you peach! Always nice to get a confirmation on the date and more details :yess: and thank you C&W, "Trucha Libre" for answering our questions.
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Post by: Boingo on June 15, 2008, 01:08:47 PM
FWIW, at least C&W's La Paz sightings are close together...   :angel:

Note: details previously spoiled on page 9 of this thread.   :groan:

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9529/indexts4.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexts4.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 15, 2008, 05:14:31 PM
I'm trying to sort out where which activity she saw is most likely to have been.  From C&W's apartment shots (see page 9, this thread) I had ID'd which building they were in.  At one point in the C&W blog they say:  "The day we took possession of our apartment we were crossing the park in front of our building and noticed a lot of people and some really weird all wood bicycles."  Neither the Plaza Abaroa or the Monticulo is 'in front' of their building.  But being on an upper floor of a 16 story building does tend to widen one's sphere of surroundings.   Here is a GE capture that shows the building, Plaza Abaroa, and the Monticulo.  Because the building's front entrance is only 285 feet from the Plaza I bet that is their 'park'.  Plus, she also just says it out right:  "They were in Plaza Abaroa (sometime called Plaza Avaroa)"  :groan:

So the 'Wooden Roller/Wooden Dancer' task (go ahead, call it a Detour!) takes place in the Plaza Abaroa.

Now she also gives us this:  "we also noticed a lot of commotions and big tv lighting in the parc of the Monticulo"

This spells Pit Stop mat to me.  It also clues us in on when the leg was expected to end.

(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/999/indexca8gk48bpd5.th.jpg) (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca8gk48bpd5.jpg)
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Post by: TheScandinavianAmazingR. on June 17, 2008, 04:52:10 PM
Anyone knows the country's in The Amazing Race 13? I have read Brazil, Bolivia, Cambodia and India at this site!!!!
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Post by: apskip on June 17, 2008, 04:55:35 PM
Add New Zealand to your list.
Add Russia to your list.
What are believed now to be transit points only are in Santiago Chile, Bangkok Thailand, Dubai UAE, and Frankfurt Germany.
If you want the details in timetable form, consult the Timetables and Flight Information thread.
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Post by: TexasLady on June 17, 2008, 04:57:31 PM
Anyone knows the country's in The Amazing Race 13? I have read Brazil, Bolivia, Cambodia and India at this site!!!!

Hi there, Apskip is right, or you can go here and find puddin's summary which is also helpful.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.msg303377.html#msg303377
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Post by: selwyn on June 19, 2008, 05:26:43 AM
I got some more confirmation from a couple of local industry sorts... In case there was still any doubt I am not 100% certain the TAR filmed in New Zealand.

From my understanding of the timings there has been a series of TAR Asia filming with some overlapping time, so possibly some sightings that don't fit in may have been the Asia show?
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Post by: apskip on June 19, 2008, 06:35:08 AM
Selwyn;

It is  has been certain for weeks that AR13 teams arrived around 4am on May 2 in and departed from New Zealand the afternoon of May 3, both from Auckland airport. what is not known is where they went in between. The best bet is the Tauranga and Mt. Manganui area. If you want to help, focus some effort there to track them down.
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Post by: puddin on June 19, 2008, 10:27:15 AM
I got some more confirmation from a couple of local industry sorts... In case there was still any doubt I am not 100% certain the TAR filmed in New Zealand.

From my understanding of the timings there has been a series of TAR Asia filming with some overlapping time, so possibly some sightings that don't fit in may have been the Asia show?

selwyn, we have evidence that the Asian version started filming around May 17th/18th posted here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15379.msg299122.html#msg299122) as well as some production photos for the USA version with other evidence all gathered here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.msg303386.html#msg303386). So with that we have no doubts what your industry friends worked on was indeed TAR13.
Please let us know if you hear anything else selwyn and again thank you  :waves:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 19, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
the Tauranga Mt. Manganui area I live there as I have said, so why dont you think that the NZ Episode could just have stayed in Auckland thus counting the Skytower... I just would hate to think they came straight through Tauranga without me knowing it!
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Post by: puddin on June 19, 2008, 03:27:54 PM
the Tauranga Mt. Manganui area I live there as I have said, so why dont you think that the NZ Episode could just have stayed in Auckland thus counting the Skytower... I just would hate to think they came straight through Tauranga without me knowing it!
:waves:
Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!

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Post by: puddin on June 21, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Fortaleza City Ceará ? Yeah! that's right!!
This came to me in a round about way thanks to our Rob here that forwarded me an email from a very nice Fortaleza local named Nivaldo who found our site and wanted to help  :hearts:

Much thanks to our friend Nivaldo :thankyou:


Hi, I'm Nivaldo I'm a painter, I was hired to take part and do to something in amazing race 13.

It was in Fortaleza City Ceará state Brazil.

I really liked to participate in the reality show. I knew Phil and his team and I helped him too because it was raining so much.
I participate as a painter and gave one envelope to each team. You will know that I'm not lying.
You will see my blue uniform.

I painted the letters on the wall because the challenge was to read it all in Portuguese and find the key phrase.

The key phrase was: Cidade Da Crianca (it’s a place in Fortaleza downtown like a big square where the teams need to take a taxi and run to that place to do another challenge, but before they needed to tell me the key and I gave them the envelope.
I’m having difficulty explaining all the details because I’m just learning English and am not good, excuse my mistakes.

I took the picture on April 23rd but they filmed on April 25 in the morning and finished about 2:00pm because I needed to paint it 2 days before and paid me to participate in the filming too.

I never heard of Amazing Race before and they tried to do everything in secret, but during the filming I dressed in a blue painter uniform with some brushes and the teams arrived in a taxi, took the envelope in a red box, I don’t remember what they called that, and they need to find the painter (me) and one of the couple needed to stay beside me and the other run and read all the phases to find the key, he or she ran to tell me the key. That place is located in Metropolitan area of Fortaleza City in a place called “Iparana” Caucaia city near Forrtaleza the capital of Ceara state.

A farm called “Parque De Vaquejada A Ze Gerardo”, the place where they do rodeos but, they filmed outside this place, not inside.

I’m trying to remember all the details …I recall 10 teams.


You can see a picture

I took the picture exactly in the place with this guy called Mike and he worked on the Amazing Race team. You can see the date too.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ae325fb4.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/19c1d4f3.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 21, 2008, 08:45:32 PM
Vaquejada do Parque Zé Gerardo Arruda (http://www.vaquejadas.com.br/resultados/old/08-2005/242/)


Cidade Da Crianca Fortaleza

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/959/indexcafb1vxktg9.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcafb1vxktg9.jpg)
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 21, 2008, 09:12:57 PM
Thanks Puddin (and Rob and Nivaldo)! The whiteboard is starting to make a little more sense.  Iparana (http://wikimapia.org/4580779/pt/Iparana).
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Post by: puddin on June 21, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
Slowhatch, I'm still curious about Lisbon .........why would a field producer have anything to do with sequester? So?


Leg Two might be in our hands, guys...

Following the whiteboard for the 24th, JJ 8006 for Paolo Olivier comes in from Fortaleza. (That gives the 5.45pm timing.) Now with the "BC" mystery solved by Chateau, we know "Bas Pot" leaves Salvador on JJ 8003. That flies from Buenos Aires, to Sao Paulo, to Salvador, to Fortaleza.

In other news, JJ 3179 for Giselle and JJ 3173 for Erin go back to Sao Paulo. TAP 156 for Darren Bunkley goes to Lisbon. (Lisbon? Portugal? Sequesterville?)

What do you guys make of this?
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 21, 2008, 09:49:38 PM
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.
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Post by: puddin on June 21, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.
Probably I'm over thinking it  :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 22, 2008, 02:23:16 AM
Wow! Nivaldo! :yourock: :ty:

and your English is great! :yess:

May we ask more questions?

What is the address of the wall?

What did they film at the farm?

Did you see an older couple that looked like hippies--she had long white hair??
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 22, 2008, 02:24:09 AM
Heading off to Timeline spec with some questions! :lol:
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Post by: Kogs on June 22, 2008, 09:03:21 AM
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.

if thats the case im suprised they guy they hired for season12 isnt back
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Post by: puddin on June 22, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
Wow! Nivaldo! :yourock: :ty:

and your English is great! :yess:

May we ask more questions?

What is the address of the wall?

What did they film at the farm?

Did you see an older couple that looked like hippies--she had long white hair??

Nivaldo says that he will go out to the wall at the "farm" to take some pictures of where he painted the wall as well as details tomorrow.
Also he was hired through the yellow pages through an agency that worked for TAR and stayed at the Grand Marquise Hotel in Fortaleza if that helps?
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 22, 2008, 02:54:43 PM
if Nivaldo handed clues to all 10 teams than maybe he can help with some stronger descriptions maybe even heard some names!!.

I would especially like to see if the hippies made it past leg 1!
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Post by: puddin on June 22, 2008, 08:04:33 PM
Our friend has marked a map for us where his painted wall would be located and will send some pictures tomorrow.

thanks you Nivaldo :)

(http://i26.[banned image hosting site].com/mjpf5t.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 23, 2008, 12:22:47 PM
More news! Teams were spotted in Delhi airport May 7th!! (I'll add the other photos to the contestant thread )

Thanks to Alicia :thankyou:

Quote
I took at immigration in the Delhi International
Airport
on May 7th, 2008. They each had film crews.

(click for the full view)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2c25777e.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/cb6cc2e9.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/257d6ec4.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/99af0978.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 23, 2008, 05:05:22 PM
Our friend Nivaldo from Brazil's pictures as promised  :jumpy:
Filming was done outside the farm (Vaquejada do Parque Zé Gerardo Arruda - CE), and his painting for the Amazing Race Roadblock is still intact!

inside the farm

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/21cf1411.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/1bcd30d0.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2041a4ba.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/d9501e55.jpg)

outside the farm, wall location

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/2ff0b784.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/4fdde193.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/246ee3d0.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/7f547cbc.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/16100be1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/5b1dc61a.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 23, 2008, 05:46:41 PM
So what do you all think? Can we dismiss the Dubai sighting now ??? or did other teams go thru Dubai to get to Delhi? I'm not a flight person  :lol:

eta: I ran Alicia's photos through the thingy and they came up, for example

DateTimeOriginal : 2008:05:06 19:02:13
 

but Alicia says the 7th so?
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 23, 2008, 05:56:51 PM
So what do you all think? Can we dismiss the Dubai sighting now ??? or did other teams go thru Dubai to get to Delhi? I'm not a flight person  :lol:

They were seen on their way from Cambodia to Delhi  via Bangkok on the 6th right? And Dubai sighting was the 7th, along with the photographic evidence above? If it was a very tight leg in Dehli, or maybe a TBC, then they could be seen leaving Delhi airport again on the 7th with some teams having transit thru Dubai (a great hub with lots of different onward connections). Or is it just too tight timewise, even for some of the lagging teams?

I would rule out them having an actual leg in Dubai at this stage, but maybe (?) it could still work date wise as a transit point? :duno:
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Post by: puddin on June 23, 2008, 05:59:14 PM
Sorry I didn't see you post Mrs Shrek.

I just added this

Quote
eta: I ran Alicia's photos through the thingy and they came up, for example

DateTimeOriginal : 2008:05:06 19:02:13
 

but Alicia says the 7th so?
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 23, 2008, 06:06:28 PM
It's quite easy to get confused with dates, and of course we don't know what time zone the camera was set to either. There has always been a question mark over the Dubai spoiler, simply because it was a second hand sighting, the retelling involved alcoholic beverages, there is no photo evidence or secondary sighting to collaborate the story, and as some one mentioned earlier, a Jewish team *could* have problems with entering an Arabic country.
I still think it is too early yet to completely rule it out though as a transit point when we still aren't sure where the next destination is after Delhi.
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Post by: puddin on June 23, 2008, 07:03:16 PM
I asked our friend Nivaldo lots of contestant questions, so here are the ones he was able to answer and so it seems the "Hippies" may have escaped elimination Leg1.

the key as in solving the phrase

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Can you recall if the teams were bunched or did they come 1 team at a time?
one team at a time, but some teams had hard job to find the key and were bunched.
 
Can you recall which make of team was first? Which make of team was last?
I remember the first and the last. The first was an old couple and the last was a brown married couple and they had a hard job to find it, the woman waited beside me and the man was looking for the key. I thought he would give up.

Did the teams have a hard time with the phrase? or did any teams speak Portuguese?
heheh...It was so difficult to understand,,no one spoke Portuguese correct, but I understood...
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Post by: apskip on June 23, 2008, 10:25:33 PM
So what do you all think? Can we dismiss the Dubai sighting now ??? or did other teams go thru Dubai to get to Delhi? I'm not a flight person  :lol:


What I think is that it would be impossible for a team to fly 1372 miles due west (265 degrees) past Delhi and then return that same distance to get to Delhi. It makes zero sense, so it did not happen. Dubai comes after Delhi in the legs as teams continue to fly generally westward.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 23, 2008, 11:40:02 PM
I asked our friend Nivaldo lots of contestant questions, so here are the ones he was able to answer and so it seems the "Hippies" may have escaped elimination Leg1.

the key as in solving the phrase

Quote
Can you recall if the teams were bunched or did they come 1 team at a time?
one team at a time, but some teams had hard job to find the key and were bunched.
 
Can you recall which make of team was first? Which make of team was last?
I remember the first and the last. The first was an old couple and the last was a brown married couple and they had a hard job to find it, the woman waited beside me and the man was looking for the key. I thought he would give up.

Did the teams have a hard time with the phrase? or did any teams speak Portuguese?
heheh...It was so difficult to understand,,no one spoke Portuguese correct, but I understood...

Hippies in first could push them through to leg three and african americans last...

Puddin I know this is hard but can you ask him about all ten teams it could unmask the last teams and give us so much help, I would love to do it but I think that it best for you to ask...could you please :kuss:
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Post by: puddin on June 24, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
More news! Teams were spotted in Delhi airport May 7th!! (I'll add the other photos to the contestant thread )

Thanks to Alicia :thankyou:

Quote
I took at immigration in the Delhi International
Airport
on May 7th, 2008. They each had film crews.

   

Thanks to Alicia, heres what she has to say ..... :)

Quote
In my original email I had said May 7th, but we just looked at our calendar and it should have actually been the 6th of May. The time is disputed (between my husband and I). The photo says one time, but that could have been Thailand time and it could have been inaccurate to begin with. It was definitely late afternoon, early evening. Likely between 3pm and 7pm. We had a long layover and have since gotten rid of the tickets.

As an added note, the blonde/white haired chick was super antsy, practically jumping up and down, when she was stuck in line.

- Alicia

(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3875/indexca5ce3n4wx0.th.jpg) (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca5ce3n4wx0.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 24, 2008, 05:05:01 PM
 :hearts: Thank you, Alicia!  :hearts:

The May 6 date fits perfectly with teams arriving from Bangkok that day. This must be a second flight from Jason's, don't y'all think? Since the teams are different?


So we can assume two groups arr India latish afternoon-early evening...so maybe an immmediate Hours of Op??  TPTB seem to like the teams to have to cope on the streets for a night anyway! :lol:
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Post by: north09 on June 24, 2008, 06:20:30 PM
Except Mom & Son, The Frats, and Terrance & Sarah are also at the airport in Alicia's photos.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 24, 2008, 06:58:57 PM
So you are thinking they are all on the same plane?

I have to wonder about that based on Jason's excellent descriptions before...But surely there are other flights arr from Bangkok nearly together? They could easily be in immigration at the same time if their flights have anywhere close arrival times..

I see Son, don't see Mom. I'm not sure I see the frats.... ??? Terrance and Sarah, okay if he is the one in the blue sleeveless Tee...

I'm going to have to Supersize these and take another look! :lol:

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Post by: north09 on June 24, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Well mom isn't there, but you can only assume she is somewhere. Just go on the contestant thread, puddin pointed out everyone there.
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Post by: puddin on June 24, 2008, 08:11:49 PM
Heres  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg303927.html#msg303927) the rest of Alicia's photos peachs.

Jason  (http://jumpingthetracks.blogspot.com/2008/05/amazing-race.html) did not go to Delhi with them but he notes that he saw 5, maybe 6 teams , Cambodia to Bangkok. His photos were taken at the Bangkok airport.
"Anyway, sat in front of all of them on the plane where they were filmed almost the entire time"

Dustin (http://myweirdmindwonders.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-to-catch-up.html) recalls 3 teams on his flight from Cambodia to Bangkok

Remember, this blogger?  (http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/sonicbridges/1/1210064700/tpod.html) he saw:
On Flight Between Bangkok and India
various couples. Some were partners, some were family, some were friends.
A pair of young jewish boys
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Post by: Neobie on June 26, 2008, 03:02:43 AM
Thread-jumping from the Contestants Thread... but

Matt showed us the Pit Stop: it's the All-Russia Exhibition Centre (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ebD-3Ec2ThI/Rg1s6uvULDI/AAAAAAAAACc/47Dr6hlPxXI/31_vdnkh.jpg)!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/43/Vdnkh.jpg/275px-Vdnkh.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 26, 2008, 04:09:07 AM
Good Catch Neobie!

Found this pic on Google Earth...I think it matches the lights and fountain pretty well to puddin's pic here (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/tn1.jpg)

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6670/indexca03rzr2bl5.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexca03rzr2bl5.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 26, 2008, 04:51:31 AM
An interactive map of the park grounds can be found here (http://www.vvcentre.ru/eng/about_us/excursion/)

You can get a 360 degree panoramic at Panorama 12 (yellow flag 2nd from the bottom of the map from the main entrance)
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 10:28:42 AM
I knew you'd find it Neobie :D

We jumped threads? okay, heres the link to the contestant topic that we are talking about above, a team plus Phil at the pitstop in Moscow, Russia (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136)
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 26, 2008, 10:35:03 AM
Great find! Here's a photo (http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/476288.jpg) taken from a  nearby ferris wheel. Because of the billboards and the buses, I'd nominate one of the fountains near the main entrance. (the way the soundmen are rushing around, it looks like Phil just barely beat the racers to the mat!)
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 10:44:47 AM
Thanks Slowhatch. So the boats are part of an exhibit?
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 26, 2008, 11:04:30 AM
I think so, but I can't find anything that matches our timeline. Here's a calendar (http://www.vvcentre.ru/files/2008_eng.doc) from the links that Mrs. Shrek provided. There's a "comprehensive security" exhibit, but it doesn't start until May 11.  ???
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Post by: Boingo on June 26, 2008, 12:02:29 PM
.... I'd nominate one of the fountains near the main entrance.

 :js:  IMHO, based on your ferris wheel pix, and the pitstop pix, my guess is that Phil is smack dab right in the middle, right in front of that big building.   :ascared  Talk about being conspicuous.  Didn't even bother hiding him.   :duno:   :funny: 

eta: BTW, Matt is shown standing in the exact spot in his Moscow pix   :lol:

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9557/57441255wz7.th.jpg) (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57441255wz7.jpg)(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2462/45014594ks5.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45014594ks5.jpg)(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8285/11189673rh5.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11189673rh5.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 01:50:30 PM
Thanks Boingo & Slowhatch. The boats are puzzling ..

heres (http://www.english.visitexpo.ru/?search=&expo_name=&prev_country=0&country=0&town=0&expo_center=6&theme=0&date_from_INPUT=9.5.2008&date_from=2008-5-9&date_to_INPUT=14.5.2009&date_to=2009-5-14) another site to search but I came up empty, maybe someone will have better luck.

eta: maybe the air boat is part of the safety expo? some are manufactured in Russia.
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Post by: Boingo on June 26, 2008, 02:12:33 PM
Thanks Boingo & Slowhatch. The boats are puzzling ..

heres (http://www.english.visitexpo.ru/?search=&expo_name=&prev_country=0&country=0&town=0&expo_center=6&theme=0&date_from_INPUT=9.5.2008&date_from=2008-5-9&date_to_INPUT=14.5.2009&date_to=2009-5-14) another site to search but I came up empty, maybe someone will have better luck.

eta: maybe the air boat is part of the safety expo? some are manufactured in Russia.

 :duno:  Maybe we can approach this problem from the manufacturers side.  Air boat kinda looks like these Ivanoff Hovercraft AB (http://www.hovercraft.se/engindex.html) models (Sweden).  hmm, the safety thing maybe be that these boats are marketed as "rescue boats"

Their site is soooo slooow, and I'm too bored to wait.   :groan:   Maybe peach can call them and ask if they were exhibiting there.   :funny:   Just kidding.   :lol: :angel:
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 02:26:42 PM
"Hovercraft"   :groan: I couldn't find the word Boingo!

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4566/indexcaxeovs6pv2.th.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcaxeovs6pv2.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 02:38:31 PM
........and this is Matts photo mentioned above

(http://i25.[banned image hosting site].com/k3ahb6.jpg)
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 26, 2008, 04:37:31 PM
I wasn't totally sure where to put this, so Moderators please feel free to move it if there is a more appropriate place :tup:

Found a blog of a guy who seems to be maybe doing some work experience or something in the area of television production and has had some involvement with TAR:

From the week of June 1st, 2008
Quote
Friday: I just worked all day and night. Though I did have my first experience at Sizzler as the Amazing Race loggers all decided to go out to lunch together. Where over an unlimited salad bar we talked about reality TV and more reality TV.

From the week of June 15th, 2008
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Monday: It was my last day at The Amazing Race. It was definitely a good learning experience just sitting right next to the producers’ table and listening to them talk about story lines — good both if I ever wanted to get into unscripted/”reality” TV and in general for writing. I even got to leave early.

Link (http://thumbsupguy.wordpress.com/)
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Post by: puddin on June 26, 2008, 05:15:19 PM
Sounds like he is friends with the Amazing Race logger/ transcribers Mrs Shrek  :tup:

fwiw, here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3248035&postcount=39) are some photos of the Moscow Integrated Safety and Security Exhibition , note the logo, stripes and blue lights on the vehicles. Doesn't narrow down the date much though so  blahblah


(http://i30.[banned image hosting site].com/snyjyt.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 26, 2008, 06:47:15 PM
This shot was taken here between 4:14 and 4:53 pm  (assumes May 11th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/tn1.jpg)

(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5760/indexcahkptodno4.th.jpg) (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcahkptodno4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: north09 on June 26, 2008, 09:16:29 PM
Thats kinda late. They seem to either be the last team to get in to the final 3, or the last team to check in. I would guess last to get in the top 3. Most of the time, the last team comes in under the dark of the night.
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 27, 2008, 04:00:07 PM
Puddin, any luck on the date for that Pit Stop shot?

Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/UUWW/2008/5/11/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA) supports May 11th just barely.  May 10th is Matt's picture date for set up (no hovercraft).  And May 12th and 13th have overcast conditions that look harder to accommodate the sunlight that we do see.
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Post by: puddin on June 27, 2008, 04:08:46 PM
No not yet Chateau, but heres a few pictures to add to the pitstop one above, some clouds

(message on the way Chateau)

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9004/indexbb3.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexbb3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Chateau d If on June 27, 2008, 04:58:20 PM
I think we can pin it to May 11th because the shot you just put up has drying rain puddles from rain that shows up on weather underground at 9:30 am.  That shot looks like about around noon from the shadows.  May 12th had no rain.  May 13th had rain but that's too late to allow for our finish in Portland on the 14th.

Why no people there?   :duno:


So it could be the 11th or the 13th.  The 13th has WU overcast info that makes the 11th look more likely.  But it is way to weak to make a firm conclusion.
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Post by: puddin on June 27, 2008, 05:32:26 PM
I think we can pin it to May 11th because the shot you just put up has drying rain puddles from rain that shows up on weather underground at 9:30 am.  That shot looks like about around noon from the shadows.  May 12th had no rain.  May 13th had rain but that's too late to allow for our finish in Portland on the 14th.

Why no people there?   :duno:

Good catch Chateau :)
I'll never understand that whole IDL thing  :lol:, they are 8 hours ahead of us? Does that make a difference?  :-[
How long is it from Moscow to Frankfurt to Portland? I'm not good at this.

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4966/indexcasqfh85ra2.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexcasqfh85ra2.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 27, 2008, 07:04:07 PM
puddin, Frankfurt is 6 hours ahead of us here in EST,  and Moscow is 8 hours ahead, making it about 4AM Sat there now compared to 8 PM here....
 :waves:
But then Frankfurt will be 9 hours  ahead of Portland... meaning they can arrive a couple of hours after when they left! :lol:

Nice job on the location and times, guys!  :hearts:
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Post by: apskip on June 27, 2008, 07:09:45 PM

How long is it from Moscow to Frankfurt to Portland? I'm not good at this.
puddin, this information is readily available in the Timetables and Flight Information thread(indeed one of the reasons it exists is to answer questions like that).

The answer is LH3189 0705 0825 DME FRA followed by LH468 0945 1120 FRA PDX

The question is on what date was the flight from Moscow to Frankfurt. If Chateau's latest information is accurate, then it appears that there is another city between departure from Moscow early morning of May 12 and departure from Frankfurt mid-morning on May 14. So the answer to the question probably is that there was no flight from Moscow to Frankfurt because it went somewhere else in Europe and that other place then had the flight into Frankfurt.

By the way Chateau, your statement that "May 13th had rain but that's too late to allow for our finish in Portland on the 14th" is clearly not valid since from the flight information above you can see that teams could have had a pitstop before 6pm May 13 in Moscow and easily gotten to Portland when we know that they did.
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Post by: puddin on June 27, 2008, 07:50:14 PM

How long is it from Moscow to Frankfurt to Portland? I'm not good at this.
puddin, this information is readily available in the Timetables and Flight Information thread(indeed one of the reasons it exists is to answer questions like that).

The answer is LH3189 0705 0825 DME FRA followed by LH468 0945 1120 FRA PDX

The question is on what date was the flight from Moscow to Frankfurt. If Chateau's latest information is accurate, then it appears that there is another city between departure from Moscow early morning of May 12 and departure from Frankfurt mid-morning on May 14. So the answer to the question probably is that there was no flight from Moscow to Frankfurt because it went somewhere else in Europe and that other place then had the flight into Frankfurt.

By the way Chateau, your statement that "May 13th had rain but that's too late to allow for our finish in Portland on the 14th" is clearly not valid since from the flight information above you can see that teams could have had a pitstop before 6pm May 13 in Moscow and easily gotten to Portland when we know that they did.


Well its easier to ask then to search through 5 pages, thanks apskips  :tup: . An update, all in 1 post, the first post in Timetables and Flight Information thread would be nice.

Also, the thing is, Matt's photo dates end on May 13th...why is he hanging around in Russia?

example below: Date 5/13/08  time 5/24 pm

(http://i27.[banned image hosting site].com/2mglbt4.jpg)

Then we had this insurance thingy, not sure what to make of the dates.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/May14th.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/again.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 27, 2008, 07:58:25 PM
Quote
By the way Chateau, your statement that "May 13th had rain but that's too late to allow for our finish in Portland on the 14th" is clearly not valid since from the flight information above you can see that teams could have had a pitstop before 6pm May 13 in Moscow and easily gotten to Portland when we know that they did.

I was just coming back to fix that.   :tup:
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Post by: apskip on June 27, 2008, 08:38:44 PM
puddin, I cannot say why Matt is hanging around Russia, but probably beacuse he is not assigned to work either the next leg or Portland.

The most vital information in Timetables and Flight Information thread is my timetables. they are distinctive. You just have to look for the most recent one. It never takes 5 pages going backward form the present and sometimes can be less than one page.
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Post by: north09 on June 28, 2008, 10:37:03 AM
I was thinking, I know someone from Russia. Is there anything that we might need to know location wise? Maybe more about the Art Center?
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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 11:52:58 AM
I'm pretty sure I've got it! The vehicles/boats seen behind Phil at the pit stop were most likely put in place on May 13th with the Security Exhibition (ISSE) at the All-Russia Exhibition Center in Moscow on 14-18 May 2008. Perhaps they bring the larger vehicles in first? Does that make sense?

From this forum  (http://www.militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252http://militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252http://militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252)

MARS-700

(http://i29.[banned image hosting site].com/2gx1cg2.jpg)
(http://i27.[banned image hosting site].com/2v1ue4x.jpg)

Main entrance to the exhibition

(http://i26.[banned image hosting site].com/2aesfx4.jpg)

eta: one more from out pitstop photo taker which matchs the exhibit from the military forum
[(http://i32.[banned image hosting site].com/seq7hw.jpg)

(http://i30.[banned image hosting site].com/jj4upi.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 28, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
I think you got it solid!


Can you imagine BVM's consternation when the boats were wheeled in on top of his Pit Stop!   (:;)
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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 12:15:20 PM
Maybe he BVM was happy that Phil had some sort of hidden place near the vehicles  :lol:? I wonder how many tourist though Phil was part of the expo?
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Post by: Neobie on June 28, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
:yess: Great job!

Hmm, from Slowhatch's timetable (http://www.vvcentre.ru/files/2008_eng.doc) we have an exhibition period from 14-18 May and a lease period from 11-19 May. So it still doesn't rule out the 11th, as that could be when they'd be rolling in the boats?

(Phil's not exactly the poster boy for safety, though...)
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 28, 2008, 01:35:56 PM
The look on their faces:  It's a rap.

Matt had been hanging out with this babushka for several days.  First in the afternoon of May 10th with the Lamborghini after seeing Bulgakov's flat, the morning of the 11th at a cafe, and 7 minutes later at Bulgakov's flat, followed by Red Square into the afternoon, Bulgakov's flat again on the morning of the 13th, and this shot, still at Bulgakov's flat at 5:24 pm on the 13th.

 (http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc164/th_81877_index_122_164lo.jpg) (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81877_index_122_164lo.jpg)


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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 01:47:07 PM
:yess: Great job!

Hmm, from Slowhatch's timetable (http://www.vvcentre.ru/files/2008_eng.doc) we have an exhibition period from 14-18 May and a lease period from 11-19 May. So it still doesn't rule out the 11th, as that could be when they'd be rolling in the boats?

(Phil's not exactly the poster boy for safety, though...)
Killjoy!  :lol: ! We need more research, I agree. And peach might have found a connection but she must be at work :ascared
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2008, 08:30:05 PM
peach is working WAY too hard! :lol:

I'm thinking it is very possible that our Pitstop photo taker saw TAR in Moscow on 5/13...

From the collection there was this photo with the caption as shown:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13Moscowmay14.jpg)

Now on May 14 the St Petersburg team won the UEFA cup final (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/football/05/14/uefa.zenit.ap/)

For comparison:
http://www.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20080514/01.jpg

So if this is taken in Moscow and not St Pete--then we know our photographer was still in Moscow on May 14, which makes it sure that our photographer was there on the 13th... They are moving around and of course we can't be sure how long or when exactly they were in Moscow...but I still am liking Moscow as the last stop before home for TAR 13.

Combined with y'all's exhibition dates, then May 13 would remain a very good possibility.

Especially when you remember this Portland sighting:
so, my boyfriend saw them in customs and he thought they had come from Moscow before PDX. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301412.html#msg301412)

But if the pic is taken in St Pete (where the photographer also was), then that makes it harder to sort out our picture date (Moscow might have been sooner) ...

So come on Detectives! Find that building!  :jam:


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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 28, 2008, 09:52:05 PM

So come on Detectives! Find that building!  :jam:


Are there other pictures in the series which might have a readable view of a car licence plate? Could be a bit faster to trace than the building?
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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 11:13:22 PM
Got it peach ........
Cosmos–Zoloto  (http://www.cosmos-zoloto.ru/eng/shop/virtual.asp), I don't think Moscow is a match so must be this one ~  St. Petersburg, Nevskiy avenue, 22\24 (yet to find a picture  :res:)

 (http://img227.imagevenue.com/loc165/th_81934_index_122_165lo.jpg) (http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81934_index_122_165lo.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2008, 11:29:59 PM
The lights in St Petes work for me

 (http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc1166/th_82941_index_122_1166lo.jpg) (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=82941_index_122_1166lo.jpg)

 (http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc568/th_83109_index2_122_568lo.jpg) (http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=83109_index2_122_568lo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2008, 11:30:53 PM
Damn she's good! :hearts: How'd you do that? And so fast too!

So okay then...our photogs are in St Pete on the 14th which tells us...exactly nothing! :lol3:

Okay...moving on to the next trick up my sleeve!
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Post by: Mrs Shrek on June 28, 2008, 11:40:37 PM
So okay then...our photogs are in St Pete on the 14th which tells us...exactly nothing! :lol3:


Speculating here, but Russia isn't exactly known for being safe for wandering tourists at night time. I have looked at a website here (http://www.waytorussia.net/Transport/Timetables/MoscowPetersburg.html) listing the direct trains from Moscow to St Petersburg and they are all night trains with a large majority arriving very late in the evening, or early morning (it's a 700km approx 5 hour trip), and so it is quite possible that the night time pic of the soccer celebrations was taken while travelling from the train station when first arriving in St Petersburg.
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Post by: puddin on June 29, 2008, 12:03:15 AM
You all can help me look for photos dated May 11th thru the 13th of the All-Russia Exhibition Centre.

I found one (http://picasaweb.google.com/ptopalov/RussiaSpring2008/photo#5201497037202944866) that says it was taken on May12th and it rained :hides  :lol:

(http://i34.[banned image hosting site].com/2ika62c.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2008, 12:10:32 AM
Oh no! Poor Chateau! :lol:

I still like the 13th for some unknown reason...

Wish I could stay and play!  :'( :waves:



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Post by: apskip on June 29, 2008, 07:12:24 AM
It should be noted that there was a connecting flight from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt on the morning of May 14. It is LH3221, departing LED at 0615  and arriving FRA 0710 in ample time for the connection there for LH468 to Portland.

St. Petersburg is a pretty neat place to visit. the only previous Amazing Race visit there was in AR5 when the infamous caviar eating contest(2 kg = 4.4 pounds) occurred in a suburb.

I like the idea of St. Petersburg as the penultimate leg, but right now there is not enough evidence to prove it.
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Post by: Neobie on June 29, 2008, 09:23:41 AM
I love the Kremlin clock, and the EXIF data trick! (Thanks again Puddin!)

Further down the same album (the one with rain on the "12th"), we see a Kremlin clock at 3.47pm, while the camera clock declares 7.49am. That means the camera clock was last set to EDT or AST, eight hours behind Moscow Summer Time. (Well that's assuming that people set their clocks to the correct date, but it's not that big a stretch...)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/ptopalov/SC9vkyK6dII/AAAAAAAAAhY/3pmXu1fC7Dw/IMG_0823.jpg?imgmax=512)

Following that train of thought, we can safely declare the rainy shot to be taken at 11.41am, May 13th!

Somehow when you open up the EXIF data for that shot it says 3.43am on the 13th. Hmmph. Go figure.

In other news, there was no overtime for the UEFA Cup finals, so starting at 7.45pm Manchester time, the results would have been declared at 12.35am, 15th May, St Petersburg time. (Add five minutes for injury time that match.) Not that it means anything... blahblah
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 29, 2008, 11:13:32 AM
Neobie, you are a wizard!  Thank you.  Thank you.

How the hell did you get Exif data from that picture.  Nothing shows up for me.   :'(


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Post by: Chateau d If on June 29, 2008, 11:38:54 AM
Now I see where your 11:41 is coming from!   :lol:

I got the Exif now.   :groan: 

Exif says:  3:43 am May 13th.
Add 8 hours to get 11:43 am May 13th.

And Weather Underground comes through again.   :yess:  They have rain in Moscow (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/UUWW/2008/5/13/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA) from 10:30 to 11:30 am

(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/2ikdu9y.jpg)

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Post by: Boingo on June 29, 2008, 11:41:08 AM
Got it peach ........
Cosmos–Zoloto  (http://www.cosmos-zoloto.ru/eng/shop/virtual.asp), I don't think Moscow is a match so must be this one ~  St. Petersburg, Nevskiy avenue, 22\24 )

Good job, puddin.   :tup:

 :sucks

(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/2usvrcw.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2008, 03:55:45 PM
It should be noted that there was a connecting flight from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt on the morning of May 14. It is LH3221, departing LED at 0615  and arriving FRA 0710 in ample time for the connection there for LH468 to Portland.

St. Petersburg is a pretty neat place to visit. the only previous Amazing Race visit there was in AR5 when the infamous caviar eating contest(2 kg = 4.4 pounds) occurred in a suburb.

I like the idea of St. Petersburg as the penultimate leg, but right now there is not enough evidence to prove it.

I think I may have confused the issue!  :-[

You are right in saying that we have no evidence for St Pete...the photographer of the Pitstop went on to St Pete, but of course that has nothing to do w/ us...I just wanted to get some dates out there. Sorry about that!
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 29, 2008, 03:59:42 PM
Aww, come on Peach.  I want to see that Battleship again.   :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2008, 04:01:16 PM
Good job guys! So May 13th fits rain-wise??  :yess:  I really want Moscow to be the last stop so we can have 2 more "someplace new" to go after Delhi!

And Boingo, you crack me up! :hearts:  Phil indeed...
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2008, 04:04:44 PM
Aww, come on Peach.  I want to see that Battleship again.   :lol:

:smartass  :neener:
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Post by: puddin on June 30, 2008, 01:12:41 PM
okay :badhorse:, what do you all think?  :duno:

Reading the terms again (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:***14kbcjAYJ:www.isse-russia.ru/file.xp%3Fidb%3D265693%26fn%3DGeneral%2520Terms%2520of%2520Participation.doc%26size%3D95744+Safety+and+Security+Exhibition+All-Russia+vehicles&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us)

INTERNATIONAL SALON OF SAFETY AND SECURITY SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT
“INTEGRATED SAFETY AND SECURITY 2008”
14 – 18 May 2008

General Terms of Participation

*Build-up time: 

May 11 – 13, 2008 from 09.00 till 19.00

*Exhibits shall be brought to the pavilion (outdoor exhibition ground) on May 13, 2008 from 08.00 till 17.00. On May 13, 2008  Exhibitor’s representative should stay at the booth till 20.00.
Exhibits can’t be transferred to other exhibition spaces without preliminary permit of the Exhibition Directorate. Change or transfer of the exhibits shall be made within an hour before the Exhibition opening or after the Exhibition closing.  The Exhibits shall not be taken away from the Exhibition without written permit of the Exhibition Directorate until its closing date and hours.

*General 24-hours guarding of the Exhibition is included in cost of participation. The exhibition is guarded from 20.00 on May 13, 2008 till 18.00 on May 18, 2008. Guarding of the Exhibition is fulfilled at night from 18.30 till 09.00. In case of theft of or damage to exhibits found the Participant should immediately apply to the police (militia) station of the All-Russia Exhibition Center.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
Okay, I do an "exhibition" monthly, and that pretty much reads to me as:

Bring it in on the 13th during those hours--not before, not after...

So if the boat is an "exhibit" which seems reasonable (as well as the fire trucks etc), then I'd say we have our date! :jumpy: :hearts: :jumpy:

Can't be after the 13th because we know they are heading to Portland, can't be before because there were no exhibits in place...

And then there are those rain puddles! :funny:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 30, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
That is very good evidence.   :tup:

Here is a little thing to check out:  Form other shots taken on the 13th I noticed that there is very little exhibit material or people in region that would become the mat's background behind Phil.  I wonder if production was able to hold back the placement of the exhibit vehicles until the checkins were over.  Just to keep the shot looking more monumental and less trade-fairish.

Do other shots of the exhibit after May 13th show vehicles in that area?
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Post by: puddin on June 30, 2008, 02:21:20 PM
That is very good evidence.   :tup:

Here is a little thing to check out:  Form other shots taken on the 13th I noticed that there is very little exhibit material or people in region that would become the mat's background behind Phil.  I wonder if production was able to hold back the placement of the exhibit vehicles until the checkins were over.  Just to keep the shot looking more monumental and less trade-fairish.

Do other shots of the exhibit after May 13th show vehicles in that area?

Heres the map (http://www.kbexpo.ru/common/img/uploaded/exhibitions/kb/images/exhibition-plan-eng.jpg) of the exhibit, we are looking at area 4? Again photos here  (http://www.militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252http://militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252http://militaryvideo.ru/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252).

I'll try to dig up more tourists pictures  :tup:
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Post by: Chateau d If on June 30, 2008, 02:38:43 PM
Thanks Puddin.  I think we have the Mat in area 2 on your map.
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Post by: puddin on June 30, 2008, 10:39:19 PM
Gosh there just are no pictures out there!! Heres one (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3255960&postcount=7758) of the bus(s)

adding these
http://www.isse-russia.ru/site.xp/057057051.html
http://www.isse-russia.ru/site.xp/057057052.html


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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
Forget the bus!

I want the little whirley toy!!  :luvu:
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Post by: puddin on June 30, 2008, 11:16:24 PM
You take the Gyro and I'll take Phil  :sucks
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 30, 2008, 11:19:09 PM
save the fighting for later gals   :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
Can't I have Phil in the whirley toy WITH me?! :lol:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 30, 2008, 11:40:14 PM
lol
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Post by: Boingo on July 01, 2008, 01:04:01 PM
  OK, back to Cambodia for a minute.  Not sure if this has been identified already, but found this pix of a Bayon Temple gate that looks very close to Matt's gate.  The 2004 pix appears to be a view of the gate from the opposite side (outside).

Note the "collapsed" stone in the opening above the passage.  OK, the 2004 pix has some vegetation, and the opening allows visitors to pass thru, while in Matt's 2008 photo the gate is fenced off, and no vegetation.  Things change in 4 years, maybe.  Too bad we can't see the other side.   ;)   Close enough, huh?   :angel:

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Post by: Boingo on July 01, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
 :yess:  found it!   :sucks   Described as Gate with Bayon at Ta Prohm

flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/savannara/1105249359/)

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Post by: georgiapeach on July 01, 2008, 02:20:53 PM
Nice Boingo!  Just don't stand under it!  :ascared  I think that is the face they have to find for sure!

Maps of both Bayon and Ta-Prohm are in the Cambodia MAPS!  HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15503.msg301646.html#msg301646)
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Post by: Boingo on July 01, 2008, 02:47:02 PM
 :lol:  :badhorse:  just one more....  :angel:

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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 01, 2008, 05:13:36 PM
You take the Gyro and I'll take Phil  :sucks
I'll take the Gyro, you can fight over Phil.
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2008, 01:47:48 AM
Thanks to puddin doing some amazing following a trail detecting, we have some new info which confirms that our date of the 13th for the PitStop is correct! And here is the weather report for Chateau!  :hugs:

All thanks to puddin's detective skills and a new friend!!  :thankyou:

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Yes it was the 13th. the first of three teams came in around noon-2ish. i don't really remember exactly, just that it was very early. It had rained all morning and the sun came out around noon.

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Post by: Chateau d If on July 03, 2008, 10:32:38 PM
 :pirate7 :popcorn:
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Post by: TexasLady on July 07, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
:pirate7 :popcorn:

I want the race to start airing now!  ;)
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Post by: puddin on July 15, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
Thanks to our new friends, this is a nice shot of Phil at the Moscow/ All-Russia Exhibition Centre pitstop :thankyou:


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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 16, 2008, 01:00:04 AM
there he is
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 16, 2008, 01:02:32 AM
It is Comrade Phil!
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Post by: north09 on July 16, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
Good old Phil, standing there in all his glory!
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Post by: Boingo on July 16, 2008, 02:42:25 PM
Thanks to our new friends, this is a nice shot of Phil at the Moscow/ All-Russia Exhibition Centre pitstop :thankyou:


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 :lol:  That's a really interesting new picture, puddin.  Looks like there's a camera crew waiting in the wings, lots of visitors to the exhibition walking around, and a couple of security guards/police giving Phil and the Russian war hero the "once over". This is one busy location.   :funny:
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Post by: Hooky on July 16, 2008, 03:17:40 PM
What is that white/grey square that the crews are holding? Is it supposed to help with the light angle for the cameras?
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Post by: puddin on July 16, 2008, 03:26:30 PM
We think its for lighting and or sound, note how cloudy it is. They hold it up alongside Phil :)
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 16, 2008, 04:32:27 PM
What is that white/grey square that the crews are holding? Is it supposed to help with the light angle for the cameras?
In the TV business, that's called a reflector, to help add light for the cameras. It's used to help illuminate the subject, in this case, The Man!  :tup:
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Post by: Boingo on July 16, 2008, 05:20:50 PM
 :angel:  because I'm bored... (BB is a real snoozer)   :funny:

Note how soundman and reflector guys jump into action when the racers arrive.   Cameraman appears out of nowhere, and there's an extra soundman lurking by the boats.   :lol:

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Post by: puddin on July 16, 2008, 05:38:08 PM
this has been a  peach-puddin production  :lol:
tease ......

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Post by: north09 on July 16, 2008, 09:35:38 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it looks like the couple is having a celebratory kiss at the mat in the second pic.
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Post by: puddin on July 16, 2008, 09:39:03 PM
We have a video coming........stay tuned :)
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 16, 2008, 09:54:34 PM
We have a video coming........stay tuned :)
Ooooh.  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: That makes my night. Looking forward to that. BB is giving me kidney stones.  :iok :iok :iok :( :(
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Post by: puddin on July 16, 2008, 11:21:58 PM
 :jumpy: A peachypuddin production ........., thanks to our friend :thankyou:

 1st team of 3 teams (witnessed by Robyn and friends) arriving at the Moscow pitstop/ All-Russia Exhibition Centre May 13th  




 
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Post by: Chateau d If on July 16, 2008, 11:38:37 PM
 :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 16, 2008, 11:42:22 PM
Y'all are going to LOVE this! 

:hearts: :jumpy: :hearts:

It worked for me and then it was gone?
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Post by: puddin on July 16, 2008, 11:49:34 PM
Fixed!! I locked it and couldn't figure out how to unlock it :lol:, sorry about that.
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Post by: Chateau d If on July 17, 2008, 12:16:51 AM
Okay. I figured out how to make it work.  Do I get a prize!   :lol:

That was so cool.  I love their little whisper comments and Squeals.

"No camera?  Sez who?"   :funny:


And that team totally out ran their camera crew!  :jam:
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Post by: Boingo on July 17, 2008, 12:41:33 AM
 :bounce  ... OMG...OMG...OMG...OMG...OMG....  :funny:   :fun
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 17, 2008, 01:16:35 AM
What do y'all think about the team? Are they a couple? or something else? ???

We see her head on his shoulder...a little hug from him...
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 17, 2008, 01:26:12 AM
I believe either this team is a Brother/Sister or Dating and Terrance and Sarah are the opposite!
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Post by: Boingo on July 17, 2008, 01:33:15 AM
 :duno:  this close-up from the still picture shows the racers...blue backpack is a guy.... you think orange backpack is a girl?  I guess, given the high waistline on those pants...  :lol: 

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Post by: georgiapeach on July 17, 2008, 01:39:39 AM
We think it may be this couple...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/team-1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on July 17, 2008, 01:42:04 AM
Posted here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304089.html#msg304089) Boingo, I have NO doubts thats our team in the India photo at the counter.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 17, 2008, 01:46:31 AM
what do you think peach, do you think the Team is dating or brother/sister?
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Post by: Boingo on July 17, 2008, 01:51:05 AM
 :ascared  oh, I see, peach thinks the couple at the airline counter is the same as the pitstop couple because of the blue backpack.  it's possible, but it's only speculation without seeing the orange backpack...   but then again, since India was before Moscow, then any team seen in India, could also be in Moscow.   :angel:

Now, about this hugging at the pitstop... are y'all seeing that in the video?  or am I missing something?   I'm just not seeing that....     
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 17, 2008, 01:55:47 AM
In the video...she puts her head on his shoulder...he puts his arm around her...a little hug? at the end...

 :duno: kiwi, seemed more like family then romance but BIG guess there...

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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 17, 2008, 05:11:49 AM
I just was able 2 watch the video after enabling and disabling a few things, however, did yall get confirmation that they are first, cuz they dnt look 2 happy I would be screaming!!!
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Post by: mswood on July 17, 2008, 01:34:15 PM
Okay Puddin I expect to see the question where is the greeter standing and what gender tehy are in the game for next season.
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Post by: puddin on July 17, 2008, 01:59:34 PM
Okay Puddin I expect to see the question where is the greeter standing and what gender tehy are in the game for next season.
Not a chance mswood  :lol:

I just was able 2 watch the video after enabling and disabling a few things, however, did yall get confirmation that they are first, cuz they dnt look 2 happy I would be screaming!!!
Yeahthatsright, first of 3 teams Kiwi.

eta: I re-hosted the video so you can get a larger video, not ants.
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Post by: Chateau d If on July 18, 2008, 12:39:37 PM
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I just was able 2 watch the video after enabling and disabling a few things, however, did yall get confirmation that they are first, cuz they dnt look 2 happy I would be screaming!!!

I think we loose our video feed too soon to see Phil give them their arrival status.  The cameras are not even in place yet are they?
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Post by: Boingo on July 18, 2008, 02:19:14 PM
I think we loose our video feed too soon to see Phil give them their arrival status.  The cameras are not even in place yet are they?

 :lol: Exactly... and what about the ubiquitous shot of Phil pointing into the distance as the racers approach the pitstop, and the greeter gazing into the hosts eyes while nodding their approval....  :funny:

I guess they can always do a re-take later.   :angel:   I guess even reality TV is not necessarily "real time".  :sucks
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 18, 2008, 02:42:28 PM
What are y'all talking about? :lol3:

I see a cameraguy! I see lightboards! I see them wisking away the Pitstop board ....
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Post by: Chateau d If on July 19, 2008, 04:05:06 PM
I can't wait to see the arrival in-show.  We should be able to see our little video crew in the background.

 :snicker:

If 'first of three' is accurate then this Pit Stop is NEL.
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Post by: Dragoondaniel on July 19, 2008, 07:58:19 PM
I can't wait to see the arrival in-show.  We should be able to see our little video crew in the background.

 :snicker:

If 'first of three' is accurate then this Pit Stop is NEL.

Wouldn't that mean a Speed Bump on the Finale leg? Interesting....  :snicker:
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Post by: beau_30 on July 19, 2008, 08:04:38 PM
I just have to say that you guys are AMAZING!!!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
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Post by: puddin on July 20, 2008, 10:44:01 AM
peach & I sold our souls for the above video and info  :lol: .....thought you all might enjoy it. :-[  :angel:

Newspaper scan thanks to Michael  :jam:

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SPOILER ALERT!  (http://www.thestar.com/News/Ideas/article/463414)
TheStar.com
 
The Amazing Race investigation
A reporter stumbled into the path of a hit reality show. Then, the show's fans found her

Jul 19, 2008 04:30 AM

Robyn Doolittle
Staff Reporter

There was something about the way the camera crews were just waiting around that told me they weren't from the local Moscow news station.

And then there was the good-looking guy in the tan leather jacket talking in front of the camera. He seemed to be speaking English – unlike the Russian-speaking cameramen. And why was there a second crew 50 metres away, near a grand archway leading into the All-Russia Exhibition Centre?

Then it hit me.

"Guys!" I giddily turned to the seven friends I was travelling with, "I think this is The Amazing Race."

Within an hour or so the leather jacket guy – host Phil Keoghan –and a man dressed up in Soviet garb stationed themselves in front of a giant Lenin statue. Before long, a pair of haggard-looking twentysomethings, weighed down by backpacks, came barrelling through the archway. They were first. Hugs all round. And we were documenting it all.

A frantic producer woman sprinted over. "No cameras! No filming!"

A second was more diplomatic. He used guilt. "From the bottom of my heart, I know I can't delete your pictures or anything, but please, keep what you've seen quiet. Millions of people look forward to this every year."

We said we weren't there for trouble, we were just fans of the show. He seemed relieved and I was content to drop it.

That is, until The Amazing Race found me.

On July 2, several months after my trip, an email arrived with the subject line: Amazing Race. I opened it.

"Hi Robyn! My name is Peach and I am with an Internet group that tracks The Amazing Race. We stumbled across your friend Vanessa's picture of the race and Phil! In Moscow and are thrilled to bits ... perhaps you could answer some questions for me?"

Whaaaa? I called Vanessa. She'd posted her Russia pics on a Picasa Web album. Were those searchable? We laughed. As a reporter, I spend most of my day stalking people on the Internet for stories, and here, I'd been e-hunted.

They called themselves The Amazing Race detectives. Since 2004, race cycle 5, the TAR detectives – about 15 in total – have mapped out, blow-by-blow, pretty much every stop of the race months before the show airs.

They search web albums and blogs for people like myself, scrutinize promo clips, track down contestants and map out possible flight patterns. Among them: a space engineer, a former travel industry professional who "can pull up flight information at the drop of a hat" and a WWII vet.

One of the forum members is married to a police detective.

"One of the nicest compliments we ever got was when the husband of one of our posters (said) he should give us some of his cold cases for us to work on during the office season," says Peach.

She says her real name is Rose, she works in medicine, hails from Georgia and dreams of being a site scout for the show.

As leads develop, the detectives frantically follow the trail – sometimes until dawn. Pictures. Car types. Licence plates. Local geography and architecture. It's all dissected to the most minute detail. To date, almost all of cycle 13 is mapped out.

The original TAR detective, Puddin, from Pennsylvania, who is "old enough to have teenagers," explained how she found us:

As usual, Puddin was scanning online photo albums, including Picasa. Vanessa captioned one picture "Amazing Race." It showed the back of the contestants and the Soviet soldier. Host Keoghan was hidden. Puddin couldn't find Vanessa online, but she noticed one photo captioned "Robyn and Oleg" (my boyfriend). "The (Ryerson) sweatshirts gave it away," Puddin says. "We googled Robyn, Ryerson University and bingo!" A story I'd written on buying a new condo popped up, with a picture of Oleg and me.

"I compared your photo with Vanessa's and thought for sure I had a match," Puddin says.

I was impressed, but after poking around on the site, I realized this Sherlock Holmes sleuthing was nothing. Not only had they found us, but they were able to deduce what time and day we were there, largely by puddles on the ground.

They were able to discover the location of the finale mat, or finish line, for this upcoming season.

But as true fans, they chose not to reveal the information on their website.

"We were all horrified at the thought that the racers might be besieged by the media, or that the winner might be known before the show even wrapped," says Peach. "It was more important to us at that point to protect the finale of the show than it was to be the first (fan site) to share the news ... We are all in this because we adore the race and the friends and excitement."
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 20, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
Oh lordie.  :-[ :-[ :-[

And y'all only thought you knew the things we do for RFF! :lol3:

I know just how Robyn felt! It is kinda of a shock when an innocent little letter turns into an article by an investigative journalist....

Aside from getting peach and puddin confused (peach--puddin what's the diff? :funny:) she did a nice job, I think!

But if we were going to sell our souls, we were going to take the rest of y'all with us!  :ya3:

So much fun to see a snippet of the TAR Detectives at work and how everybody's hard work all falls together!

You guys are the BEST! :hearts:
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Post by: puddin on July 20, 2008, 12:01:30 PM
quote from Robyn:

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Yes it was the 13th. the first of three teams came in around noon-2ish. i don't really remember exactly, just that it was very early. It had rained all morning and the sun came out around noon.


Lets try to clarify "the first of three teams" , take from it what you will! Robyn and her group witnessed 3 teams and we don't know if there was a 4th team, remember nothing is 100% certain! Robyn and her group were at the Centre for hours and, to me anyway, their is room to debate about a possible 4th team which is likely if TAR is following the TAR12 format.

From Robyn~

*the team that vanessa took a pic of was obviously the first. ( who we at rff have narrowed down to be this pair  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136) )

*i can't describe the 2nd team. we saw them at a difference. ( distance)

*but as we were leaving, maybe 4 or 5 hrs after the first went through, we bumped into a 3rd as they got off the monorail.
 
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Post by: Boingo on July 20, 2008, 02:31:21 PM
 :yess:   peach, may I quote you on this: "Funny how your past comes back to haunt you, huh?  :funny: Full circle!

quote from Robyn:

*but as we were leaving, maybe 4 or 5 hrs after the first went through, we bumped into a 3rd as they got off the monorail.

Monorail....huh  :angel:   Interesting, as the Moscow Monorail doesn't really go anywhere, just between 2 metro stations.  It has a stop at the main gate of the All-Russia Exhibition Center, though.   :snicker:

The Moscow Monorail Transit System (MMTS) - monorail system in Moscow (Russia), in Severo-Vostochny (Norh-Eastern) administrative district. It links metro stations Timiryazevskaya and VDNKh (length - 4.7 km). Its design was initiated in 1998 and first passengers were admitted on November 30, 2004 "in the touring mode". On January 10, 2008 monorail began to work in normal mode, which meant the reduction of ticket price from about $2 to the common price of Moscow rapid transport tickets, and much more frequent trains.

Maybe they took the metro to the Timiryazevskaya station and then the Monorail to the Exhibition Center.  :duno:  Or maybe not.

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Post by: Chateau d If on July 20, 2008, 03:16:48 PM
Hi Robyn,  nice article.  I'm officially buying you at ticket to the next TARcon.    :thankyou:

ETA:  I didn't do my homework very well.  New shot:  bring Jacq too!

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Post by: Mrs Shrek on July 20, 2008, 07:47:12 PM
Lets try to clarify "the first of three teams" , take from it what you will! Robyn and her group witnessed 3 teams and we don't know if there was a 4th team, remember nothing is 100% certain! Robyn and her group were at the Centre for hours and, to me anyway, their is room to debate about a possible 4th team which is likely if TAR is following the TAR12 format.

From Robyn~

*the team that vanessa took a pic of was obviously the first. ( who we at rff have narrowed down to be this pair  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136) )

*i can't describe the 2nd team. we saw them at a difference. ( distance)

*but as we were leaving, maybe 4 or 5 hrs after the first went through, we bumped into a 3rd as they got off the monorail.
 

So if the third team was 4-5 hours behind the first, and was only seen as Robyn and friends were leaving, there is nothing definite to say whether or not there could have been a fourth team even further behind. The only definitive way to know that it was the last team, would be if production had been seen packing up and leaving the Exhibition Centre afterwards. But they weren't, so all we know for sure from Robyn's eyewitness account is that there were at least 3 teams left, and given our belief that this is the last leg before the final, there could only be a maximum of one other team that Robyn (possibly) missed seeing.
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 22, 2008, 12:24:57 PM
Wow, the TAR Detectives get some nice pub! The reporter learns what it's liked to be e-hunted! :lol: :lol:
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Post by: sunnyca on July 22, 2008, 12:56:29 PM
Nice article!!! You guys really are awesome detectives, I'm sure you're going to get more coverage yourself when TAR13 actually airs!   :tup:  :wohoo:
So Peach wants to work for TAR, eh??  They really should hire all you guys, if nothing else to swear you to secrecy. But who'd write our spoilers anymore??   :'(  This is what sustains us (well me anyways) through the long dry spell between shows!! I wonder how they really feel about the spoilers- have you ever heard from them?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 22, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
The article has made news in another TAR-related board as well.
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Post by: Chateau d If on July 22, 2008, 02:33:55 PM
Okay, so now I have to go e-hunting.  Find that Board.   :jam:
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 22, 2008, 02:39:06 PM
Quit y'all! :lol:

 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Post by: apskip on July 22, 2008, 04:54:34 PM
No, Chateau, you don't. It's SUCKS.
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Post by: gingerman28 on July 23, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
My my, I turn my back, and all heck breaks lose.  TAR detectives in the news :jumpy:

Do we have two roses or one rose and one peach?

Anyway, it is great to see that all our efforts make news.

WWII Vet. :jam:
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Post by: puddin on July 23, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
 :girly "A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose. Maybe even right under your nose..."


  :hearts: We gave a shout to you all and the journalist took from it what she chose, so sorry if some were not mentioned but you know if we had our way .........   :jam:

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Post by: georgiapeach on July 23, 2008, 03:42:01 PM
Our Rose is a rose. 

Our peach is not a Rose.

And the promised correction seems to be a little slow! :lol:
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 23, 2008, 11:55:55 PM
I thought Peach had another pseudonym. :lol: :lol:
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on July 25, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
Should we be looking for TAR 14 to start sometime soon? From the eligibility requirements form for TAR 14:

"If selected as a participant, you and your teammate must be willing to travel to numerous locations around the world lasting approximately 30 to 40 days starting sometime in or around mid-August – mid- October 2008."

BTW - thanks for everyones work tracking TAR 13 - it was my first time here and it was almost as fun as the race itself!  :waves:
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Post by: puddin on July 25, 2008, 03:48:08 PM
Should we be looking for TAR 14 to start sometime soon? From the eligibility requirements form for TAR 14:

"If selected as a participant, you and your teammate must be willing to travel to numerous locations around the world lasting approximately 30 to 40 days starting sometime in or around mid-August – mid- October 2008."

BTW - thanks for everyones work tracking TAR 13 - it was my first time here and it was almost as fun as the race itself!  :waves:
You can discuss it in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15486.0.html) walkingpneumonia.  :waves:
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Post by: Boingo on August 22, 2008, 02:16:22 PM
 :jumpy:  Finally found this one..... Matt is standing in the Praca Municipal do Salvador near the Palacio Rio Branco and the Elevador Lacerda (to his right).  That's the Banco Bradesco branch to his left.

...running out of things to spoil, puddin  :funny:   :sucks
(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/11b12iu.jpg)
(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/2zg4xtz.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on August 22, 2008, 05:38:42 PM
 :snicker:  Just cleaning up a few things... no new spoilers here...   :carryon:

Found location of Matt's Escadaria do Paço sign pix.  No surprise, they were taken just a stones throw from Igreja Do Santissimo Sacramento Do Passo (church with stairs and drummers) in Pelourinho area.

Photo labeled "Palourinho-Ladeira_do_Carmo" is view of same street from the opposite end (looking uphill).

(http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/5eep8h.jpg)
(http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/16ifc55.jpg)
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Post by: Boingo on August 23, 2008, 02:45:43 PM
 :angel:  Turns out Matts sign is at the bottom of the Igreja do Santissimo Sacramento do Passo stairs.   :snicker: 

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/Smileys/classic/carryone.gif)  ...had a feeling it was right there.  :lol:


(http://i37.[banned image hosting site].com/2lrhx0.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on August 25, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
Did anybody see these wild houses under the arches of the bridge?    :lol:

(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/2lt0iv9.jpg)
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Post by: banzai on September 30, 2008, 09:07:15 AM
Amazing Race 13 in Google Maps
http://www.gearthhacks.com/blog/20080928/amazing-race-13-in-google-maps/
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Post by: michael on September 30, 2008, 04:41:29 PM
So, as of right now the only 100% confirmed team for the F3 is Nick and Starr right ?

 :angel: ....i'm not placing bets or anything with my friends....  :snicker:
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Post by: puddin on September 30, 2008, 05:30:47 PM
So, as of right now the only 100% confirmed team for the F3 is Nick and Starr right ?

 :angel: ....i'm not placing bets or anything with my friends....  :snicker:

We'll we don't know what team lost their credentials/ critical mistake but thanks to eyewitness's in Portland Oregon, complied here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg301507.html#msg301507) we can guess what teams were seen in Portland whether they be decoys or not?

Remember Stacy? When the cast was released I asked and she replied "pretty sure it was marisa/brook and terence/sara"

I was waiting to pick my boyfriend up at International arrivals around Noon today.  saw a young couple, very fit and attractive and then 2 sisters (they looked related) also young and wearing matching nike workout gear- they definitely stood out, then when a camera crew w/ tons of gear started filming them running thru the terminal, well that's when it clicked! the A.R!! i love the show and had NO idea they might be in PDX. so, my boyfriend saw them in customs and he thought they had come from Moscow before PDX.
Cool! can't wait to see it on TV.

i don't recognize the teams i saw from any of those pics- the couple (i am assuming that by the way- could be bro/ sis) she had dark hair, he had dark blond hair.  very fit and looked like the had just climbed a mtn. 

Thanks stacy !! Were the 2 girls blond by any chance? we are missing some of the teams pictures but word is there were 2 blonds in pink.
Yes- sisters were blond!

From Julz.., sounds like Ken and Tina to me

I saw TAR teams today as well at PDX.  I drive the international buses at PDX but not today.  However, I was driving the terminal parking lot  buses today and saw a camera man /sound man  running after a very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack  and one of those TAR  clue cards (?)  in her hand just about the time  the Germany  flight  would have landed. They were getting a taxi here at PDX.  I had to keep  my  eyes on my driving  but a person in the bus said they were from The Amazing Race.

My  next  loop  around (20 minutes later), I arrived  at the terminal  and  saw  more teams grabbing a taxi.  Fortunately  I was driving the Employee lot bus  and one of the supervisors  (who  got  on  camera & had to sign a TAR release  for TV)   confirmed that the teams  in fact were from TAR and got off the Lufthansa  flight from Germany to Portland OR.    They were headed  up to Washington state. He also said there were only  4 teams and perhaps  the other two teams  went up via  Seattle first -  but that of course is purely  speculation.


Our Portland detective.. tells us Andrew and Dan, in the evening

Okay guys, I AM able to share some more info w/ you!

With many thanks to our incredible  Portland photographer who has been hard at work on our behalf!!

Quote
I'm pleased to report that I saw a male-male team in downtown Portland 
this evening
(peach: that would be 5/14) at about 6:00 local time. A cameraman and a sound man 
were following them.

I saw them head west along Alder, then south on 10th, then east on 
Morrison. They asked for directions at the food carts that occupy the 
parking lot north of Alder, and they looked at a metal map kiosk at 
the corner of 10th and Morrison.

They looked to be mid to late 20s or even maybe early 30s. Both were 
wearing khaki trousers; the taller one was slightly heavyset and had 
reddish curly hair and was wearing a baseball cap and a blue T-shirt. 
The other had blonde to sandy blonde hair and no hat. Both had 
backpacks.

What struck me, though, was how slowly they were moving compared to my 
expections. They certainly were not running. I don't know if this 
means they are a decoy, or that they are real but exhausted, or that 
they are real and in last place, or what.

I often buy magazines at a store on 9th & Alder, so I asked the 
cashier there if I knew anything about TAR in Portland. He said, "Oh, 
is that what that was?" I said, "Is that what WHAT was?" He said he 
had seen a male  and a female plus two-man crew
also proceeding along 
Alder. I asked him when that was. He said about two hours previously, 
which puts it at around 4:00 p.m. I asked him if he recalled any other 
details; he said he did not, except that the girl was pretty. :-/

I did not have a camera with me, but where they were is VERY central 
location; and while Portland is considerably less densely occupied 
than, say, LA or even Denver, I will be very surprised if no one here 
managed to take a reasonable picture of at least one of the teams.

I asked our source if these guys could maybe be who he saw?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/frats.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/frat2.jpg)

And so sadly, since we don't even know their names yet (that seems so wrong somehow!), he replied:

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Oooh! Yes, I do think so! Their relative heights and hair colors match!

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Post by: puddin on September 30, 2008, 05:52:00 PM
And I've been meaning to post this, remember Robyn, our writer that witnessed Nick and Starr at the Moscow pitstop?
This is why I'm pretty sure Tina and Ken final 4, theres always that chance there was a team behind them and they are final 3 but.. reading above, if it was Tina and Ken that Julz saw " very tan blond woman in a florescent green sporty outfit, backpack  and one of those TAR  clue cards (?)  in her hand", they very well could be decoys but, nothing could be 100% certain so take it for what its worth.
Remember, Robyn did not "man" the pitstop the whole time, she and her group were sight seeing.

Quote
now amazing race info for you guys:
 
the team that vanessa took a pic of was obviously the first. i can't describe the 2nd team. we saw them at a difference. but as we were leaving, maybe 4 or 5 hrs after the first went through, we bumped into a 3rd as they got off the monorail. she was blond and wearing spandex pink. she was yelling at the guy she was with and they fought over the right direction. she sprinted the wrong way, then they figured it out. it was pretty funny.
 
they also had a huge amazing race party that night at a hall at the back of the exhibition centre. it was all very secretive.
 
also, did you know once the contestants come through they sit at the side? i always envisioned them giong off to a hotel, but no they sat in a waiting area until at the one of the other teams came thorugh.
 
talk soon
 
robyn
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Post by: michael on September 30, 2008, 05:54:06 PM
Cool puddin -- I guess we should be on the look-out to see if Tina has any pink spandex pants on at all through-out the race.
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Post by: puddin on September 30, 2008, 06:01:07 PM
Cool puddin -- I guess we should be on the look-out to see if Tina has any pink spandex pants on at all through-out the race.
Where do you read pants Michael? And fwiw, Tina was wearing pretty bright pink top EP1 and I know of no other bleached blond paired with a male, lol. I can't find it but somewhere Robyn states that the blonds make-up was a mess and now we know, thanks to interviews, that Tina had a fever during the race so?

more from Robyn about the male "the guy looked pretty average - good looking brown hair"
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Post by: michael on September 30, 2008, 06:05:32 PM
oh my bad, LOL I read "wearing pink spandex pants"
 :duno:
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on September 30, 2008, 06:09:22 PM
Michael is hoping for spandex.
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Post by: michael on October 04, 2008, 01:30:31 PM
sorry for posting off topic but I didn't wanna make a new thread.
When is TAR14 scheduled to begin filming?
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Post by: puddin on October 04, 2008, 01:39:14 PM
I'll guess very late October/November or November  .. discussed here

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15486.0.html
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Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
peach thinks this should be in spoilers for future reference here ya go...
so it now looks like Dallas and Toni make it to at least Leg 8 Almaty, Kazakhstan which should put them in the final 5.

From this photo in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg355818.html#msg355818) , Slowhatch says "Don't laugh but it looks like a minaret to me. I looked around Almaty but didn't see anything similar"

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep3/006710-12-2008.jpg)


Boingo (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg356170.html#msg356170) finds it!! :jumpy:
Egyptian Islamic Center (mosque) in Almaty

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110704;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110705;image)

Slowhatch adds the photo below as well as more details:

According to the map (http://expat.nursat.kz/?1530), the area behind Nur Mubarak/Nur Mosque (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2831548180101015314qTpTXC)/Egypt Cultural Centre is described as Al-Farabi Kazakh National University and "Botanic Garden (http://expat.nursat.kz/?532)." She looks a little sad in the confessional; maybe they're out, or maybe it was just a long day.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13AlmatyNurMosque.jpg)


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Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 11:23:37 AM
to add to our Cascade Locks sightings compiled here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg301507.html#msg301507).

Quote
52college     
"RE: Thank you BvM"
i live in oregon and saw them filming the final leg. repelling off the "bridge of the Gods" in cascade locks, oregon. there were 3 teams left. the finale supposedly happens in portland oregon. so this may have been the final 3.
 

source RTVW/Blows (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1560.shtml)
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Post by: michael on October 16, 2008, 11:31:48 AM
to bad they didn't say WHICH Teams they saw
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2008, 11:41:33 AM
Shush Michael, ;)
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Post by: puddin on October 16, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Yeah it always seems to be the case, must be the water in Oregon? Can you believe with all those sightings not one picture of a team? Especially the 2 girls that were seen by various eyewitness's running around downtown, such as, no one stated if they were blonds or what they were wearing.
The best descriptions came from the airport sightings (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301412.html#msg301412).

judym reported 2 couples (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301433.html#msg301433) and six yellow cabs at the Locks but we very well know they could have used decoys as well, especially with the one team not making the finishline and them knowing that we knew where End City was thanks to the Portland reports.
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Post by: michael on October 16, 2008, 11:47:51 AM
actually peach, one of the sources did say that the girls were blonde and looked like sister
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Post by: apskip on October 24, 2008, 03:16:24 PM
I too asked like Belle Book about why the Futon Critic wrote about the nov. 16 Kazakhstan episode and not about Nov. 9, 23, or 30. However, he did for Nov. 2:

Sunday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-As teams race through India, Mother Nature foils one racer when a windstorm blows away their detour, and a budding romance between competing racers causes their teammates to question their focus. Phil Keoghan hosts.

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Post by: Boingo on October 28, 2008, 03:18:53 PM
 :gaah:  Damn mislabeled locations in Google Earth.   (:;)  The rickshaw guy is actually at a bazaar near the Fatehpuri Masjid (Mosque), and not the largest mosque in Delhi, Jama Masjid.   :groan:

Location still same, just label correction.    :carryon:
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 28, 2008, 03:27:16 PM
Now I've forgotten what rickshaw guy looks like? ???
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Post by: Chateau d If on October 28, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Quote
The rickshaw guy is actually at a bazaar near the Fatehpuri Masjid (Mosque), and not the largest mosque in Delhi, Jama Masjid.

Ahem  :waves:  and now you see that is right next to the place that Slowhatch identified (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17766.msg357272.html#msg357272).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: Boingo on October 28, 2008, 04:18:02 PM
Now I've forgotten what rickshaw guy looks like? ???

 ;) here's rickshaw guy (not a racer, just a location shot)
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 28, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
Thank you! I was going nuts wondering where that was...
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Post by: patlini on October 28, 2008, 07:22:14 PM
possible pitstop?
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Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 07:47:30 PM
Adding this here, from EP6 confessionals, posted in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16735.msg358453.html#msg358453)

We think this is most likely Ken in a Leg 10 confessional putting Ken and Tina in at least the final 4. (Could be in or near the All-Russian Exhibition Center as spoiled in this (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136) thread to be the last leg in Moscow) and more Ken and Tina final 4 evidence posted here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg354132.html#msg354132).

Ken conf: Where travels involved Tina feels that shes always right, you know at least 99.9 % of the time she feels likes shes right. We've got to have a little more give and take , shes got to trust in me when I think I know something I have a pretty good strong intuition


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/000111-2-2008.jpg)

And then we have a Nick confessional that might be Portland/Finishline/Pittock mansion as spoiled in this  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301490.html#msg301490) thread.
Slowhatch offers up some convincing evidence here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16735.msg358460.html#msg358460):
"Pittock mansion has a rose garden (http://www.flickr.com/photos/79513166@N00/2660730167/).  :duno:

Nick conf: I think the budding romance between Dallas and Starr is kind of cute, shes my baby sister  

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/000411-2-2008.jpg)




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Post by: Hooky on November 04, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Adding this here, from EP6 confessionals, posted in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16735.msg358453.html#msg358453)

We think this is most likely Ken in a Leg 10 confessional putting Ken and Tina in at least the final 4. (Could be in or near the All-Russian Exhibition Center as spoiled in this (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15372.msg304136.html#msg304136) thread to be the last leg in Moscow) and more Ken and Tina final 4 evidence posted here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg354132.html#msg354132).

Ken conf: Where travels involved Tina feels that shes always right, you know at least 99.9 % of the time she feels likes shes right. We've got to have a little more give and take , shes got to trust in me when I think I know something I have a pretty good strong intuition


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/000111-2-2008.jpg)

And then we have a Nick confessional that might be Portland/Finishline/Pittock mansion as spoiled in this  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15356.msg301490.html#msg301490) thread.
Slowhatch offers up some convincing evidence here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16735.msg358460.html#msg358460):
"Pittock mansion has a rose garden (http://www.flickr.com/photos/79513166@N00/2660730167/).  :duno:

Nick conf: I think the budding romance between Dallas and Starr is kind of cute, shes my baby sister  

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/000411-2-2008.jpg)

I don't agree that the Ken confessional is a Leg 10 one - If you look really close, you can see what looks like a Hindu statue lurking in the background. I see it as an India confessional, which makes more sense.

As for the Nick one, Pittock Mansion fits the background, but what he is saying is in the present tense, and doesn't fit well with a finish line interview.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 08:51:47 PM

I don't agree that the Ken confessional is a Leg 10 one - If you look really close, you can see what looks like a Hindu statue lurking in the background. I see it as an India confessional, which makes more sense.

As for the Nick one, Pittock Mansion fits the background, but what he is saying is in the present tense, and doesn't fit well with a finish line interview.

YES its really the great Russian Hindu God!  :yess:

:sucks

Vera Mukhina sculpter  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Mukhina)
Worker and Kolkhoz Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_and_Kolkhoz_Woman)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16735.0;attach=110868;image)

VDNKh = All-Russian Exhibition Center in Moscow
(http://i34.[banned image hosting site].com/33bls0n.jpg)
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Post by: DrAw on November 06, 2008, 03:33:36 PM
Correct Me If I'm Wrong BUT
if Nick is indeed in the garden of the Pittock Mansion talking about romance between Dallas & Starr, than that would put Nick & Starr (we already knew this) and Toni & Dallas in the final 3!!!!
O bless this season!
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Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 03:58:26 PM
Correct Me If I'm Wrong BUT
if Nick is indeed in the garden of the Pittock Mansion talking about romance between Dallas & Starr, than that would put Nick & Starr (we already knew this) and Toni & Dallas in the final 3!!!!
O bless this season!
He might be talking about the future not the present? I honestly don't know, the final 3 is still up for grabs.
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Post by: Belle Book on November 06, 2008, 08:51:10 PM
We know Nick & Starr make the finals.  We know Ken & Tina don't.  We don't know which teams will be joining Nick & Starr in the finals, although I suspect Andrew & Dan won't be one of them.

Belle Book
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Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 09:13:09 PM
We know Nick & Starr make the finals.  We know Ken & Tina don't.  We don't know which teams will be joining Nick & Starr in the finals, although I suspect Andrew & Dan won't be one of them.

Belle Book

Nothing is black and white, we don't know that Ken and Tina don't make the finals. All we know is they were hours behind a least 2 other teams in the final Moscow leg and theres always that chance that their is another team behind them.
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Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
We know Nick & Starr make the finals.  We know Ken & Tina don't.  We don't know which teams will be joining Nick & Starr in the finals, although I suspect Andrew & Dan won't be one of them.

Belle Book

Nothing is black and white, we don't know that Ken and Tina don't make the finals. All we know is they were hours behind a least 2 other teams in the final Moscow leg and theres always that chance that their is another team behind them.

exactly! *holds out hope :-[ that they win!*


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Post by: Belle Book on November 07, 2008, 06:17:10 PM
Well, in that case it's highly unlikely that Ken & Tina make it to the final round.

Belle Book
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Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
I think the theory that Nick comments about Dallas and Starr's relationship at the F4 means Toni and Dallas makes the F4 is very valid. :tup:
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Post by: michael on November 08, 2008, 10:19:30 AM
I think the theory that Nick comments about Dallas and Starr's relationship at the F4 means Toni and Dallas makes the F4 is very valid. :tup:

It's actually F3 that it's speculated that Nick made that comment.
The thing is, the prodcers could have just asked him that question knowing that they fully inteded to edit the Toni/Dallas showmance into the show, so it doesn't mean that Toni/Dallas made it to F3...

WELCOME TO RFF BTW!  :wohoo:
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Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2008, 10:59:29 AM
Thank you Michael. You have a very ***y woman on your avatar. :angel:
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2008, 01:06:55 PM
:welcome: to RFF, Joab! Glad you de-lurked! :waves:
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Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2008, 07:18:24 PM
Hey! Thanks for the warm welcomeeee! :hearts:
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Post by: nathyn on November 16, 2008, 09:36:36 PM
BTW, does anybody know who the producers picked to win? Looking at just the bios, I'd expect that Nick and Starr would be considered a strong team while, Ken/Tina, and Toni/Dallas expected not to do well. Dandrew on paper looked like they could either be really strong or eliminated early. Who knew they'd get so lucky.
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Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:39:42 PM
If BVM is to be believed ... :res:

• One familiar thing actually did happen on this race: The producers didn’t predict the winner. Says Van Munster, “We’ve been wrong every time, across the board.”
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Post by: Belle Book on November 17, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
They probably predicted Nick & Starr or maybe Terence & Sarah for the win.  Which means Nick & Starr probably don't win.  Although that's not definite.

Belle Book
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Post by: apskip on November 18, 2008, 07:24:29 AM
BelleBook, before you take your prediction to the bank, consider the reliability of Bertram van Munster in past public statements. He makes so many mistakes, some due to lack of knowledge of geography, some in a deliberate attempt to mislead and some due to sloppy thinking, that basing anything on what he states is fraught with peril and uncertainty. 
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Post by: tory on November 19, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
 :wohoo:  i love the last 3 teams.. toni and dalls 1 nick and star 2 dandrew 3 jmo!!!!!
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Post by: apskip on November 19, 2008, 12:26:18 PM
Tory,
there are still 4 teams in Amazing Race 13!
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 19, 2008, 01:06:54 PM
:wohoo:  i love the last 3 teams.. toni and dalls 1 nick and star 2 dandrew 3 jmo!!!!!

:welcome: to RFF Tory! :waves:
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Post by: tory on November 19, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
 :duno: i relised after i posted i for got the other team i gueess i am trying to block them out,lol.. ty for the great wellcom i am so glad to find this sight.. love love it.. i am a reality junky and found it by listing to the pod cast ty ty ty,i look fw to it every week.   :yess: so u will see me a lot posting in the wrong treads and i am deslix so my spelling is horrable. but i love chatting with random stranger about thing so near and dear to my heart lol.. and if i new how to pod cast i would.rob and trever u r the best ty ty ty..
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Post by: Hooky on November 19, 2008, 04:14:47 PM
BelleBook, before you take your prediction to the bank, consider the reliability of Bertram van Munster in past public statements. He makes so many mistakes, some due to lack of knowledge of geography, some in a deliberate attempt to mislead and some due to sloppy thinking, that basing anything on what he states is fraught with peril and uncertainty. 

Well said.

Berty has certainly not been one to trust, with his two new African countries comment, and saying that All Stars went to Antarctica. When it didn't, I was so disappointed. Then I learned not to trust his word ever again! :groan:
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Post by: puddin on November 19, 2008, 04:18:09 PM
I see no new spoilers here? More like speculation which we have a separate thread for, thanks in advance.