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Title: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 06, 2008, 01:10:52 AM
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The three remaining teams race to the finish line, with the first-place pair winning the $1 million top prize. Phil Keoghan is the host.


 Nicolas Fulks and Donald Jerousek/Grandson-Grandfather (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13776.0.html) in the final 6  --Dubrovnik  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg232437.html#msg232437)--Alaska?? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12523.msg238617.html#msg238617)

Jennifer Parker and Nathan Hagstrom/Dating  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13771.0.html)-- Taiwan? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640)--   Winners? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg243458.html#msg243458) X


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Girdwood, Alaska on July 29th in this thread  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg217015.html#msg217015), first brought to us by anon1akacolby and PDF documents  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg225211.html#msg225211) posted by peach and the Amazing Race detectives.

 anon1akacolby :
*I just received an IM from a co-worker asking me when the next TAR is going to be on.
*"yup, at least part of it was in alaska.  2 of the people who did tours my parents went on this past week particpated in part of it up there.
 one was a guide up a glacier or something like that and one drove a boat up a river that was use."
*"girdwood was the city.  she couldn't remember the name of the glacier."
*At first I took that to mean that alaska was on their way to the final destination.  But I asked her if she meant that Alaska is
Possibly the final destination.  **She said:
"i think so, she said she only remembers him mentioning 3 boats (not sure if it was 3 boats besides his or including his)."

peach:
*We know that the leg was filmed on July 29, 2007. (And since we also know that the race was completed no later than August 3 and probably a day or so earlier, that makes this one of the last possible legs.)
*The leg was filmed in the Chugach National Forest (http://www.fs.fed.us/r10/chugach/centennial/visitors/index.html) on the Twenty Mile River and on the Twenty Mile River Glacier.
*Teams travelled on the Twenty Mile River in boats provided by Glacier Jet, starting at Glacier Jets' launch site (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/images/gallery/Strat%20of%20the%20Trip.JPG) (eyewitness source).  See a sample river tour video HERE  (http://alaska.org/videos-photos/videopop3.jsp?glacier_jet_medFL8.flv,glacier_jet_hiFL8.flv) (thanks Slowhatch for the links!).  Sample  River photos here (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/photo_album.php).
*They did an ice climb on the Twenty Mile River Glacier with technical support provided by The Ascending Path (http://www.theascendingpath.com/). (link thanks to Colby!)




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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 01:49:07 AM
Clues~


DON/NICOLAS, TK/RACHEL AND RON/CHRISTINA HAVE ONE FINAL LEG FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE


The Remaining Three Teams Compete in the Final Leg During the Season Finale

*The last three Teams set off on their final leg,
*as one Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash,
*and another Team misreads a vital clue that threatens their position
*In a final Amazing Race leg unlike any homestretch before it, the Racers are surprised to learn upon checkout that their next flight is their last for the entire race: the entire leg, all the way through the finish line, will play out in the city, the wilderness, by the ocean, on glaciers, and in the national parks of Alaska.
*One often combative Team comes together, while one usually cohesive Team clashes.
*One Team misreads a vital clue. Will this lead to the Team's downfall?
*After 10 cities, 4 continents, and nearly 30,000 miles, who will cross the finish line first and win the one million dollar prize?


Teams leaving the C.S.K. Memorial Hall pitstop in Taipei, Taiwan--all teams should be on the same flight
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7373/15jan0003rt7.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003rt7.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2516/15jan0029kn0.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0029kn0.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/408/15jan0062qn3.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0062qn3.jpg)


TASK
We think one of the first tasks of the day might be to retrieve a clue at the Anchorage Docks, Slowhatch provides a link here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.msg248435.html#msg248435)
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9366/15jan0015cb8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0015cb8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8600/15jan0014hc4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0014hc4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8702/15jan0019ka4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0019ka4.jpg)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2907/15jan0020du1.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0020du1.jpg)

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Thanks to CBS we now know that the Ice Climb is something all teams must do and thanks to Chateau we know it is early on:
teams travel via Jet Boat to 20-mile Glacier where they will ice-climb the glacier wall to a waiting helicopter  
But we already knew that thanks Colby & peach (see first post of this thread for a summary (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.0.html))

Chateau d if: This shot was taken here (thanks to Peach) between 8:50 and 9:30 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4771/17jan0004cr4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0004cr4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7620/17jan0005tj4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0005tj4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6743/17jan0006lg5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0006lg5.jpg) Editing would make it seem that Ron & Chris are first to this task

 (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3782/17jan0007wg9.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0007wg9.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9559/15jan0010dj8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010dj8.jpg) Followed by Rachel & TK

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5855/17jan0008rt5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0008rt5.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/144/15jan0022rt5.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0022rt5.jpg) Ron & Nick


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Detour
Thanks to CBS we know this is one of the Detour choices :
Detour in which teams must descend into the hull of a crab boat and search among 500 crabs for one of twenty with a Race-colored target on its underbelly in order to receive their next clue  

Chateau d if: This shot was taken between 9:00 and 9:33 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4393/15jan0004bk8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0004bk8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2272/15jan0000hq4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0000hq4.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5084/15jan0001al8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0001al8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8281/15jan0002wc7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0002wc7.jpg)

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Fish cleaning, Roadblock #1? or Detour choice? Much debate about this..  

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8379/15jan0010ug7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010ug7.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5602/14jan0000du1.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14jan0000du1.jpg) It appears that Chris is holding the red roadblock clue and she is telling Ron "you can do this"

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Roadblock #2? Before the finish line? Puzzle? No matter we know this is a Roadblock

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4969/15jan0031ui6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0031ui6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7537/15jan0032em8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0032em8.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3751/15jan0034qb7.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0034qb7.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1773/15jan0040mw9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0040mw9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9645/15jan0073xp0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0073xp0.jpg) Nick

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9457/15jan0039qc6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0039qc6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5162/15jan0047lr5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0047lr5.jpg) Rachel


(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7882/15jan0027zj3.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0027zj3.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/293/15jan0041jg2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0041jg2.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/940/15jan0042jy5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0042jy5.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1874/15jan0075xs5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0075xs5.jpg) Chris

  (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4982/15jan0011dz1.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0011dz1.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3622/15jan0012ra2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0012ra2.jpg)  Ron/ TK/ Don watch , Ron yells "the stress is ON!"
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Misc~  
Chateau d if:   1:32 to 2:40 pm  ( Rachel & TK taxi )

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(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3560/15jan0003xo8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003xo8.jpg) Don comes down on Nick for mis-reading a clue


running running ---------

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2008, 12:20:48 PM
The weekly Travel magazine of the Newark Star-Leger has this within an article:

Anchorage in April
 
"...April celebrations include the Sushi Cup, with crazy ski and snowboard competitions at nearby Alyeska Resort. Or catch the Arctic Man & Snow Go Classic, which combines downhill skiing with snowmobile races."

Alyeska Resort is in Girdwood.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 07, 2008, 02:26:02 PM
If you read RealityWanted.net, there is a good interview with Kynt and Vyxsin. Kynt ends it with a statement that "the next 3 episodes(meaning the final 3) are all going to be "nail-biters". I can't use that word to describe what happened in Osaka, but I can apply that expectation to both Taipei and Alaska.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 07, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
If you read RealityWanted.net, there is a good interview with Kynt and Vyxsin. Kynt ends it with a statement that "the next 3 episodes(meaning the final 3) are all going to be "nail-biters". I can't use that word to describe what happened in Osaka, but I can apply that expectation to both Taipei and Alaska.

I dunno, i found the race for first place last night to be plenty nail biting...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 07, 2008, 03:03:14 PM
Yay!  :jumpy:  finally my location spoiler is going to come to fruition! 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
I can't wait to see this one too Colby!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 08, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
yes congrats colby the first spoiler of this season if I remember correctly   :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 12, 2008, 09:56:37 PM
Will Girdwood be a full leg and will it end there or will they do half a leg there and then fly to the USA States??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 12, 2008, 10:00:35 PM
Based on every other season I would say that they fly somewhere else. In all of the last legs of TAR they have flown somewhere, do tasks, then fly to final destination city.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 12, 2008, 10:39:31 PM
Will Girdwood be a full leg and will it end there or will they do half a leg there and then fly to the USA States??

 :angel:  ...ummm, fwiw, Girdwood (Alaska) is in the USA.   :lol:  It happens to be the 49th state.   :lol3: If they "fly to Girdwood", then they are in the USA.   ;D

I have to say, there doesn't seem to be enough to fill an episode, just with Alaska.  I suspect there may be another city (in the US) involved, but no clues yet as to where that may be.  Lots of ways of entering the US (Hawaii, S.F., L.A., Seattle, Alaska, etc.).   :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2008, 02:40:36 AM
Thanks Boingo I already new that it was a part of the USA but I meant the main States in North America I am pretty sure you get what I mean  ;D
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 13, 2008, 08:02:03 PM
The preview looks like 100% Alaska to me. Does anyone have a better idea?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:16:16 PM
well we only saw a couple of tasks and one of them was somehting we already knew they completed so we have to wait and see apskip.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 13, 2008, 08:22:03 PM
The preview looks like 100% Alaska to me. Does anyone have a better idea?

I'd agree

lots of fishy tasks and the ice climbing
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah Yeah I know my info was not good...Moving on, if the board holds up that is ..
Rob has a video coming  :waves:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Tyler on January 13, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
It is Alaska.

In the preview where they show Don & Nic in the car arguing, they are riding next to a car that has 'Alaska' something on it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:24:08 PM
I'm not saying it wasn't alaska, i'm just saying that it doesn't prove that they don't fly anywhere else.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: KristineML on January 13, 2008, 08:24:39 PM
It is Alaska.

In the preview where they show Don & Nic in the car arguing, they are riding next to a car that has 'Alaska' something on it.

Alaska Orient I think it was
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 08:27:07 PM
Time to repost this!

With special thanks to the excellent lead provided by anon1akacolby, we are now able to definitively confirm the TAR 12 Alaska leg.

We know that the leg was filmed on July 29, 2007. (And since we also know that the race was completed no later than August 3 and probably a day or so earlier, that makes this one of the last possible legs.)

The leg was filmed in the Chugach National Forest (http://www.fs.fed.us/r10/chugach/centennial/visitors/index.html) (thanks to puddin for the link!), on the Twenty Mile River and on the Twenty Mile River Glacier.

(http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/25095/2003622781965282799_rs.jpg)

Teams travelled on the Twenty Mile River in boats provided by Glacier Jet, starting at Glacier Jets' launch site (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/images/gallery/Strat%20of%20the%20Trip.JPG) (eyewitness source).  See a sample river tour video HERE  (http://alaska.org/videos-photos/videopop3.jsp?glacier_jet_medFL8.flv,glacier_jet_hiFL8.flv) (thanks Slowhatch for the links!).  Sample  River photos here (http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/photo_album.php).

They did an ice climb on the Twenty Mile River Glacier with technical support provided by The Ascending Path (http://www.theascendingpath.com/). (link thanks to Colby!)

(http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/26608/2003618251442329935_rs.jpg)

(Thanks to Chateau for the glacier picture!)
(http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/25358/2003610723157286971_rs.jpg)

Sample glacier ice climbing pictures  HERE (http://www.theascendingpath.com/ap_iceclimbing.htm).

Air support to the glaciers was provided by Alpine Air (http://www.alpineairalaska.com/index.htm), which again thanks to Slowhatch, we know that WRP used in TAR 2 also.  We believe that the teams were lifted from the river to the glaciers, although this sequence is not yet entirely confirmed.

(http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/24984/2003924123209671728_rs.jpg)

Film permits were granted for all of the locations.

(Special thanks to kogs for all the weeks of detective work!)

And I couldn't have done it without the help of the whole RFF team: including puddin, Slowhatch, Chateau, Colby, and kogs!



Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 13, 2008, 08:27:38 PM
It is Alaska.

In the preview where they show Don & Nic in the car arguing, they are riding next to a car that has 'Alaska' something on it.

Alaska Orient I think it was

 :duno:  Alaska Orient Van Service (http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_ckvfh0) ?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:28:09 PM
The preview showed us everything we already knew, go figure.  :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 08:28:31 PM
When they were running across something---that looked like the Alaska Pipeline to me!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Rob on January 13, 2008, 08:28:54 PM
i will have a video preview as soon as veoh loads up my video
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 08:31:40 PM
Thanks Rob! Just keep the server going! :jam:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:33:29 PM
I have a question because I'm stupid -- is it snowy everywhere in alaska or are there no-snow areas?

*is picturing igloos and ice everywhere LOL*
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 13, 2008, 08:34:49 PM
Think Global Warming.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: KristineML on January 13, 2008, 08:36:28 PM
It is Alaska.

In the preview where they show Don & Nic in the car arguing, they are riding next to a car that has 'Alaska' something on it.

Alaska Orient I think it was

 :duno:  Alaska Orient Van Service (http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_ckvfh0) ?

That would be my guess

Their address is

3420 INDUSTRIAL AVENUE
FAIRBANKS, AK 99701

They appear to be a moving company.  http://ai.volpe.dot.gov/hhg/SearchResults.asp?search=5&ads=a&state=AK
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 08:38:34 PM
I have a question because I'm stupid -- is it snowy everywhere in alaska or are there no-snow areas?

*is picturing igloos and ice everywhere LOL*

That's it.  I am hunting you down and killing you.....AAARRRGGHHH.

People don't live in Igloo's.   I weep for the future.

Your Canadian, you should know better.  

Okay everyone form the Yukon Territories lets get him.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 08:40:06 PM
Oh, Fairbanks, I lived there for 5 years. 95 degrees to -60 degrees all within 12 months.  Got to love it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 08:40:35 PM
I have a question because I'm stupid -- is it snowy everywhere in alaska or are there no-snow areas?

*is picturing igloos and ice everywhere LOL*

And polar bears?  :groan:

What do they teach you in school?  :lol:

I'm SO giving you homework to do this week!!  :knuckles:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 08:41:26 PM
LOL, I'm from Toronto, we have no ice here!
That's it go play with your "balls of Steel".
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 08:43:19 PM
You have a better shot at seeing a Polar Bear, then an Igloo. 

Muchas Gracias, Global Warming.....
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 13, 2008, 08:49:32 PM
LOL, I'm from Toronto, we have no ice here!
Just in the ACC.  :pfft :pfft :pfft
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 13, 2008, 08:51:02 PM
Michael, we are talking July 29, core summer when the temperatures in the Anchorage area are in the 50s or maybe 60s. Does that sound like good snow temperatures? The reason there will be snow above Girdwood is the much higher elevation.

Peach, the Alaska Pipeline starts in Valdez apprimately 100 miles east as the crow flies or as the boat runs but much much longer for cars or other similar vehicles to get to. It runs due north to the Fairbanks area, which is almost 400 miles from Anchorage. I do not believe that whatever you saw was a segment of the Alaska Pipeline.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 08:53:44 PM
Heres some pictures for now~ bottom to top is the order
http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/?start=all

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:54:19 PM
well apskip, it looks like you might be right -- either way looks like an exciting finale!
There was one shot of Christina running in the preview that looked different than the others
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 08:58:25 PM
The type of trees and mountains do seem very Alaskan.  I wish I could see it on my broadcast yet for a better image.

Alaska doesn't have a huge variety of Tree species.  A lot of Pine then probably Birch.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 13, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
 :lol:  That's Korean (Hangul) writing on the van.  It says "Alaska" in Korean.   :snicker:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0009.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
LOL, I'm from Toronto, we have no ice here!

Hey cool, same here! I live in XXXXXX how about you, Michael?

Careful guys...I'm the safety patrol!!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Alaska does have a huge influx of Asian Tourist, so that wouldn't be unheard of.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 09:04:48 PM
Michael, we are talking July 29, core summer when the temperatures in the Anchorage area are in the 50s or maybe 60s. Does that sound like good snow temperatures? The reason there will be snow above Girdwood is the much higher elevation.

Peach, the Alaska Pipeline starts in Valdez apprimately 100 miles east as the crow flies or as the boat runs but much much longer for cars or other similar vehicles to get to. It runs due north to the Fairbanks area, which is almost 400 miles from Anchorage. I do not believe that whatever you saw was a segment of the Alaska Pipeline.

You're right! Is that just a dock or some sort of salmon weir? ???
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 13, 2008, 09:05:58 PM
A church van (http://www.alaskaomc.org/), perhaps?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: KristineML on January 13, 2008, 09:14:06 PM
A church van (http://www.alaskaomc.org/), perhaps?

There's a moving company called Alaska Orient


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 13, 2008, 09:14:26 PM
A church van (http://www.alaskaomc.org/), perhaps?

 :lol3: :lol: :lol3: :lol: :lol3: Get a load of their Gallery page (http://www.alaskaomc.org/zboard.php?id=gallery&category=1)

They're in Anchorage
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
Either that is SOME church or somebody got hacked!   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 09:23:50 PM
A church for Whores, perhaps....  Or a mail order bride outlet, you decide.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 13, 2008, 09:25:35 PM
A church for Whores, perhaps....  Or a mail order bride outlet, you decide.

if the church was in the race, it would be a nice detour. Church of Whores or Church of brides
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: marigold on January 13, 2008, 09:28:31 PM
A church for Whores, perhaps....  Or a mail order bride outlet, you decide.

if the church was in the race, it would be a nice detour. Church of Whores or Church of brides

That would be appropriate considering where this race began  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Thanks Rob!!

When Phil says "it all comes down to this!" they show a scene of a park, could that be where the finish line is?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 13, 2008, 10:11:44 PM
Thanks Rob!!

When Phil says "it all comes down to this!" they show a scene of a park, could that be where the finish line is?

thats just alaska silly
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 10:16:15 PM
I think it is possible that that park could be the Anchorage Golf Course (http://www.alyeskaresort.com/page.asp?intNodeID=10806) but I can't make the virtual tour open for me...can someone check and see what you think please?
 

There is also a tram at Aleska Hotel and that might capture an elevated view...off to see if there is water nearby there...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:18:25 PM
that looks like a really good place for a finish line if they do stay in Alaska.

the vt works for me peach
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:23:20 PM
There's mountains and stuff that look the same

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0000.jpg)


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 10:23:43 PM
Quick time is dead to me and I don't know how to make it open in something else... :'(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
(http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/39434/2003801445060271267_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003801445060271267)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 10:43:20 PM
REDO, when ready

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 10:47:32 PM
and here is a video of the golf course--anybody think the scenery looks like the preview??

video link: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=715966006&channel=716588356
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:48:51 PM
i do peach
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 10:57:19 PM
I'd hate to think this is the final task near the finish line!

ETA: this is when Ron cheers "the stress is on"

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:58:37 PM
oh my god puddin :groan:
talk about nail-biting finish.. This is shaping up to be an amazing finale!

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 10:58:48 PM
and here is a video of the golf course--anybody think the scenery looks like the preview??

Odd I can't see it, I'm getting a pop up SecurityError
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
In a final Amazing Race leg unlike any homestretch before it, the Racers are surprised to learn upon checkout that their next flight is their last for the entire race: the entire leg, all the way through the finish line, will play out in the city, the wilderness, by the ocean, on glaciers, and in the national parks of Alaska.

One often combative Team comes together, while one usually cohesive Team clashes.

One Team misreads a vital clue. Will this lead to the Team's downfall?

After 10 cities, 4 continents, and nearly 30,000 miles, who will cross the finish line first and win the one million dollar prize?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
Apskip, I admit defeat, you were right!

and OK:

One often combative Team comes together (RON AND CHRIS), while one usually cohesive Team clashes.(RACHEL AND TK)
One Team misreads a vital clue (DON AND NICK). Will this lead to the Team's downfall?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 13, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
finish line is in alaska from the elimination station vid preview on cbs.com
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 11:05:12 PM
YEAH! I knew it! :happy: No Playmates!

video link: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=715966006&channel=716588356

If anyone knows how to open a video that wants to be Quick Time in something else instead--please PM me!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 11:06:01 PM
anyone else agree that Ron and Chris are the "team that comes together" since they are the only team left that has ever been "combative" with each other.

I'm so excited, most unspoiled finale EVER!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 11:09:42 PM
Can you take out you embedded video please peach? its killing my pc :P

Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 11:10:47 PM
Yeah, sometimes lucky guesses end up being right puddin
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 11:11:43 PM
anyone else agree that Ron and Chris are the "team that comes together" since they are the only team left that has ever been "combative" with each other.

I'm so excited, most unspoiled finale EVER!

Michael  Yes that has to be Ron & CHristina.

The team that comes apart, would appear to be Nic & Don.

ANd the teams that screws up a clue is also Nic & Don.

And Apskip now does his "I told you so, Michael".
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: teufel on January 13, 2008, 11:12:24 PM
Yes, but I think the team that clashes is Don&Nic.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 11:13:58 PM
Can you take out you embedded video please peach? its killing my pc :P

Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska  :tup:

I love how you word that.  The End city would Alaska.  Thats one damn big city let me tell you.

And if that golf course is the finnish line, that will be the first finnish line I have been at.  My brother likes to kick my ass at golf (which he does over and over, and over again.  YOu can even play in winter, you use bright orange colored balls.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 11:17:15 PM
Can you take out you embedded video please peach? its killing my pc :P

Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska  :tup:

weird--but done!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 11:22:02 PM
I love how you word that.  The End city would Alaska.  Thats one damn big city let me tell you.


Shush you and thanks peach, no more error popups!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 13, 2008, 11:30:09 PM
Quote
Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska

Errrrr......it was my info from my co-workers mother that first mentioned Alaska as the final destination. 

Quote
*At first I took that to mean that alaska was on their way to the final destination.  But I asked her if she meant that Alaska is
Possibly the final destination.  **She said:
"i think so, she said she only remembers him mentioning 3 boats (not sure if it was 3 boats besides his or including his)."

I will admit though, even I didn't believe it.   :lol:


We saw the glaciers just I heard!   :yess:

and we saw the speed boat trip up the twenty mile river just as I heard!  :yess:


Who the heck is going to win this thing now!!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: colav10 on January 13, 2008, 11:31:42 PM
The description for the final episode on cbs.com confirms that the entire final leg will take place in Alaska. Here is the description below:

Sunday, January 20th, 8:00pm et/pt
The Final Push
In a final Amazing Race leg unlike any homestretch before it, the Racers are surprised to learn upon checkout that their next flight is their last for the entire race: the entire leg, all the way through the finish line, will play out in the city, the wilderness, by the ocean, on glaciers, and in the national parks of Alaska.One often combative Team comes together, while one usually cohesive Team clashes.
One Team misreads a vital clue. Will this lead to the Team's downfall?
After 10 cities, 4 continents, and nearly 30,000 miles, who will cross the finish line first and win the one million dollar prize?

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 11:32:01 PM
YAY for Colby! It is thanks to you that we know so much about the tasks in this episode! :kissy:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 11:32:11 PM
Quote
Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska

Errrrr......it was my info from my co-workers mother that first mentioned Alaska as the final destination. 

Quote
*At first I took that to mean that alaska was on their way to the final destination.  But I asked her if she meant that Alaska is
Possibly the final destination.  **She said:
"i think so, she said she only remembers him mentioning 3 boats (not sure if it was 3 boats besides his or including his)."

I will admit though, even I didn't believe it.   :lol:


We saw the glaciers just I heard!   :yess:

and we saw the speed boat trip up the twenty mile river just as I heard!  :yess:


Who the heck is going to win this thing now!!  :jumpy:

Of course Colby! You rocked this one  :jumpy: BIG KUDOS to Colby  :jam:  :yess:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 11:32:58 PM
we know colav10.

and anon1akacolby I think puddin meant that apskip was 100% sure that they wont fly anywhere else AFTER alaska while others thought they'd go to alaksa, do tasks, and then go somewhere else.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 13, 2008, 11:38:19 PM
 :jam: :jam: :jam:  Round of beers for everyone! 

now to just figure out who comes in first....... 

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 11:46:59 PM
we know colav10.

and anon1akacolby I think puddin meant that apskip was 100% sure that they wont fly anywhere else AFTER alaska while others thought they'd go to alaksa, do tasks, and then go somewhere else.
That is what I meant Michael but still, I should have included Colby & peach!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 13, 2008, 11:49:09 PM
Yes, kudos to peach too for her digging to  confirm my info.  Peach rocks! :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 11:55:00 PM
I'm not one to base spoilers on things like this, but we know TAR editors have done something like it in the past:

somebody at sucks mentioned in the speculation thread that when Phil was talking to teams at the beginning of LEG1 the only team not shown was Ron and Christina.

in TAR10 we all know the famous "Because if you're last....you WILL be eliminated" *flash to bama, romberly, models*
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 12:01:16 AM
what the heck is going on in this scene? fishing?

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: scorpio88 on January 14, 2008, 12:02:41 AM
Based on photos and editing, I am 90% certain Ron and Christina will win.  Can't say I'm thrilled as TK and Rachel are my favourites, however Christina does deserve to win.  I honestly don't think I'd be extremely disappointed at seeing any of the 3 teams win, with one of them being my favourites since leg 1.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 14, 2008, 12:06:11 AM
 I had thought this was strange thought this can't be right is that from the beginning on comcast it lists the amazing race with

Ron/chris hsu as in starring

at first i thought that they couldn't be so blatant and then with the taipei 101 non spoiler

but after tonight who knows
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 12:17:44 AM
on Metropolis Forums a user called TARFAN1 looked at the same thing patlini they were at the top of it as were all previous winners then the Nate and Jenn thing came up and well noone believed her now I am starting to believe her lol!!!!!!!!!!

Puddin in the screencaps Rachel and a few others are in a tank the things in the water are lobsters I believe and it seems to be a roadblock??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 12:24:12 AM
Kiwi I thought I already told you once, last season it had Dustin and Kandice listed as the stars, it doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 12:43:48 AM
Yes, kudos to peach too for her digging to  confirm my info.  Peach rocks! :tup:

 :-[ :-[

Love you too! :kuss:

:jumpy:  Chateau just called! He is on his way home from the Long Beach party and has lots of stories and lots of pretty pictures for us so stay tuned! :happy:

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 12:45:35 AM
yay can't wait to hear!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 12:49:15 AM
Michael you didnt tell me once and second I didnt do it this user did!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 12:49:31 AM
on Metropolis Forums a user called TARFAN1 looked at the same thing patlini they were at the top of it as were all previous winners then the Nate and Jenn thing came up and well noone believed her now I am starting to believe her lol!!!!!!!!!!

Puddin in the screencaps Rachel and a few others are in a tank the things in the water are lobsters I believe and it seems to be a roadblock??

Phil tells us its a Detour & they look like crabs and what Michael said  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 12:50:20 AM
what the heck is going on in this scene? fishing?

Wonder if that could be some Alaskan Indian gathering of some sort?

I keep wanting them to do Totem poles again!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 12:52:51 AM
lol note Rachel in that tub of water is her picking up lobsters or something much like the TAR 11 Fish cATCHING!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 12:55:49 AM
Could it be Lobster Catching and the other option be Ice Climbing because there is a picture of them hopping off a boat and climbing up and up or is that the scaling of the Ice Wall??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 01:02:37 AM
Start here Kiwi! Lots of good info including permits.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.0.html
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 01:37:40 AM
if you watch the trailer there's a shot of ron and christina running down a road with bushes in the background and Christina is clearly smiling. Neither of them have their backpacks on. Could that be the finish line? There's a shot of Rachel running down the same road as well without a bag on but no sign of TK.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 01:46:48 AM
I don't eat fish, what is that?


 (http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/40343/2002467368829106893_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002467368829106893)(http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/41383/2002485400649743434_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002485400649743434)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 01:49:16 AM
this is what TK & Rachel are doing, Crab or lobster?
(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/40326/2002461694386240893_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002461694386240893)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 02:15:14 AM
King crab I think...

and maybe that is a do something to a salmon? Salmon canning and all is one of the big industries...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 02:18:47 AM
King crab I think...

and maybe that is a do something to a salmon? Salmon canning and all is one of the big industries...
Thanks peach, see I would never make a good seafood chef  :angel:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 02:21:39 AM
Two of my favorite foods! Yum....
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 02:22:42 AM

After looking at the Elimination Station video where the first fime teams eliminated are at the Final end city, based upon their confessionals in their hotel room, it does indeed look like they are at the  The Aleyska Resort.  http://www.alyeskaresort.com/ (http://www.alyeskaresort.com/)  This is near the Aleyska Golf Course that was mentioned earlier.


His a vidcap of Kate and Pat from the Elimination Station video:



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/5-1.jpg)


AND here is a picture of a guest room from the Aleyska resort: (notice the light fixture and the locker at the bedside table)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/juniorsuite1.jpg)



Also, here is another shot of a guestroom.  This time take a look at the chair.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/summitroom1.jpg)


Here's a close up of the chair.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/summitroomchair.jpg)



Here is Pat and Kate playing cards: (notice the chair fabric)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/3.jpg)

With the proximity of this hotel to the golf course, I'd say that the golf course may very well be the final pit stop.  

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 02:25:34 AM
Good job Colby!  :jumpy: :yess: :jumpy: I've had my eye on that hotel for a while--I think the golf course is 35 miles away? ETA yep...
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: marigold on January 14, 2008, 02:35:48 AM
King crab I think...

and maybe that is a do something to a salmon? Salmon canning and all is one of the big industries...
Thanks peach, see I would never make a good seafood chef  :angel:

That is definately a crab Not a lobster, I love seafood and it has to be Salmon as well.
Great job on the golf course GP.
Having stayed in British Columbia and drove through the Rockies I can tell you the mountains are endless and one looks like the next.
But the pic of the golf course is right on!!
Great job guys  :dancer:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 02:37:48 AM
Good job Peach! 

I'm off to bed.  I'm up way past my bedtime.   :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 02:41:04 AM
Your good detectives! You got it Colby & peach  :jam:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 02:43:51 AM
Good job Peach! 

I'm off to bed.  I'm up way past my bedtime.   :lol:

Me too! I wanted to see Chateau's pretty pics but he must be having trouble uploading them..  see y'all tomorrow!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 14, 2008, 06:53:53 AM
You know Michael D :P  :wohoo: You just might be right about the preview part where Ron and Christina are smiling :yess: . I dont know about you guys, but I think they are racing to the final mat.
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: malice on January 14, 2008, 07:59:09 AM
Based on previous vid caps I would say that the order we see items being done is the order teams have to do them. 

I have also noticed in the past that the first team they show doing a task usually is the first team at the task.

Timeline:
Fly to Alaska
Detour - Ice climb vs. Something with crabs
Road block - Something with skinning salmon
Go to winning location!


The item that is puzzling is:  What the heck are Ron, Tk and Don waiting for???  Clearly Ron does the roadblock w/salmon.  Are there other tasks that they have to complete this leg?

Also, is the gramps team running to a boat that will take them to the detour? Or from a task that they now have to get the finish line?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2008, 08:26:53 AM
and here is a video of the golf course--anybody think the scenery looks like the preview??

video link: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=715966006&channel=716588356


No, I don't. However, they are only showing about 4 holes of 18 in the video but you can't conclude that it isn't the site of part of the preview.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2008, 08:47:00 AM
Can you take out you embedded video please peach? its killing my pc :P

Kudos to apskip, he was firm in believing that End City would be Alaska  :tup:

APSKIP has indeed believed that leg 11 would have the finish line in Alaska, but I would never have associated it with a city by that name since there is no city by that name. The biggest action in this leg is in the Girdwood area, but I am convinced that the finish line is in the CITY OF ANCHORAGE, which has a mere 1, 697 square miles, making it the city of third largest land area in the United States(also the thrd largest in Alaska since the top two are Sitka and Juneau). If you have ever been to these three(I have had the pleasure), you will know that Sitka is on an island and occupies all of it, Juneau has the massive Mendenhall Glacier within its city limits, and Anchorage has an international airport in the city limits plus an unusual amount of open space for a 250,000 population city - the size of Newark NJ).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
YAY for Colby! It is thanks to you that we know so much about the tasks in this episode! :kissy:

Absolutely right. Alaska would have been a logical place to go from Japan or Taiwan, but we knew it with no uncertainty as a result of your information, COLBY. It was invaluable, particularly coming so early in the race. Even if you didn't believe that the finish line was in Alaska, you made a huge contribution. Thanks!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
we know colav10.

and anon1akacolby I think puddin meant that apskip was 100% sure that they wont fly anywhere else AFTER alaska while others thought they'd go to alaksa, do tasks, and then go somewhere else.

APKIP was not 100% sure, but when in any doubt use logic. I explained my logic numerous times, so you all should know why I felt the race could not go beyond the Anchorage area(basically there was no time to do so if you made certain assumptions which I felt were appropriate given the "21 days" statement of van Munster).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 14, 2008, 10:13:37 AM
Phil tells us its a Detour & they look like crabs and what Michael said  :tup:
Someone has crabs?  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 10:43:56 AM
I was thinking that the golf course was much more nearer to the hotel.  Could the area we see in the preview be the ski slopes?  I need to double check but, are the ski slopes near the hotel? 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 14, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
on Metropolis Forums a user called TARFAN1 looked at the same thing patlini they were at the top of it as were all previous winners then the Nate and Jenn thing came up and well noone believed her now I am starting to believe her lol!!!!!!!!!!

Puddin in the screencaps Rachel and a few others are in a tank the things in the water are lobsters I believe and it seems to be a roadblock??

The creatures in the tank with TK and Rachel look like King Crabs - they are huge!.  Since they are picking them up and looking at them and then putting them back they probably have to find a message on the back of one of the crabs.

This is one task of the DETOUR (Phil says so on the voice over).

The other task seems to be something to do with gutting fish (Ron and Chris)

The Ice Climb looks like the ROADBLOCK.  We see Chris climbing and Ron cheering her on.  Looks to me that the take the boat to the climb site - note that both Chris and Don are wearing life vests while the climb, the same ones that TK and Rachel have on in their scene in the boat.

My guess is that they take the boat to the climb site, find the clue, and one member of team climbs while the other member gets taken to the top of the glacier.  Ron is looking down at Chris and you can see the water just under her as she starts the climb.

After the climb I think they get the clue that tells them to take the helicopter (you see one behind Ron on the Glacier) to the next location.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 14, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
Based on previous vid caps I would say that the order we see items being done is the order teams have to do them. 

I have also noticed in the past that the first team they show doing a task usually is the first team at the task.

Timeline:
Fly to Alaska
Detour - Ice climb vs. Something with crabs
Road block - Something with skinning salmon
Go to winning location!


The item that is puzzling is:  What the heck are Ron, Tk and Don waiting for???  Clearly Ron does the roadblock w/salmon.  Are there other tasks that they have to complete this leg?

Also, is the gramps team running to a boat that will take them to the detour? Or from a task that they now have to get the finish line?

I doubt that the DETOUR choice would between finding a King Crab and Climbing an ice wall.  They do not seem to be similar tasks.  Crabs and Salmon seem to be more likely detour tasks.

In the running shot of Chris and Ron; Chris is wearing a blue outfit.  In other shots she is wearing brown. But the blue outfit is the same as she is wearing in the confessional at the end of Ep 10.  Go figure.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 11:59:12 AM

The vidcap has been bothering me.  Why did Rachel drop her stuff and leave TK behind.  She's practically running for her life and he's still back at the taxi.  Aren't they supposed to stay within a few feet of each other at all times?  If this is the race to the end then why is Rachel at full speed and TK has barely moved? 

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 12:56:41 PM
I get the feeling it has something to do with this scene ~

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 12:59:49 PM
so do you think there is a final roadblock before the finish line?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 14, 2008, 01:02:55 PM
If she's pegging it then are TK and Rachel in the 3rd spot at that time
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
Actually in the preview when Rachel drops her things you here TK in the background saying "GO GO GO" so he is probably right behind her.

I'm saying this is the run to the finish line:



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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
Actually on second thought the Rachel shot might be the RB scene that puddin posted but the Ron and Chris shot looks very "running to the finish line, smile no matter what" face.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sharkshooter on January 14, 2008, 01:44:24 PM
Perhaps I have missed it, but, do we know if this week is a 2-hour special?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 14, 2008, 01:48:01 PM
one hour.  They only do 2 hour episodes for two legs aired together for the final.  And that isn't the case.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
You did. All AR12 epsiodes are one hour, including the last one.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 14, 2008, 01:50:14 PM
and those  Alaskan King Crabs, really thats just what we call the Crab there.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 01:58:08 PM
apskip a simple "yes, it's one hour" would have been acceptable. He wasn't asking if there were any 2 hour episodes throughout the season.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
DON/NICOLAS, TK/RACHEL AND RON/CHRISTINA HAVE ONE FINAL LEG FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE -- The Remaining Three Teams Compete in the Final Leg During the Season Finale of "The Amazing Race 12," Sunday, Jan. 20 on the CBS Television Network
 

   
 

            "The Final Push" - The last three Teams set off on their final leg, as one Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash, and another Team misreads a vital clue that threatens their position, during the season finale of THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Jan. 20 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. 
 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 02:50:33 PM
if you watch the trailer there's a shot of ron and christina running down a road with bushes in the background and Christina is clearly smiling. Neither of them have their backpacks on. Could that be the finish line? There's a shot of Rachel running down the same road as well without a bag on but no sign of TK.

Michael I think you might be correct?? Chris is running full speed smiling, dad behind or infront maybe and in another shot Rachel is running there and then another pic front on with T.K hopping out of a taxi paying the cab and grabbing the bags I believe this may be  the pitstop well have to see!!

The Roadblock may also be before the pitstop??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 14, 2008, 02:58:26 PM
DON/NICOLAS, TK/RACHEL AND RON/CHRISTINA HAVE ONE FINAL LEG FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE -- The Remaining Three Teams Compete in the Final Leg During the Season Finale of "The Amazing Race 12," Sunday, Jan. 20 on the CBS Television Network
 

   
 

            "The Final Push" - The last three Teams set off on their final leg, as one Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash, and another Team misreads a vital clue that threatens their position, during the season finale of THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Jan. 20 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. 
 


Well I obviously was wrong.  It is Tk & Rachel then that have a clash.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
if you watch the trailer there's a shot of ron and christina running down a road with bushes in the background and Christina is clearly smiling. Neither of them have their backpacks on. Could that be the finish line? There's a shot of Rachel running down the same road as well without a bag on but no sign of TK.

Michael I think you might be correct?? Chris is running full speed smiling, dad behind or infront maybe and in another shot Rachel is running there and then another pic front on with T.K hopping out of a taxi paying the cab and grabbing the bags I believe this may be  the pitstop well have to see!!

The Roadblock may also be before the pitstop??

It's weird Kiwi -- we know the RB has to be Ron gutting the fish, but there is also a shot of three of the TK, Donald, and Ron standing with eachother with their respective partners out of the shot. This could be a final task like TAR11 where one team member had to enter the vault, but who knows? IF that is true then it's going to be just as nail biting as last nights episode.

As for Christina running keep in mind that she almost always has a smile on her face even when she's mad, her face just goes that way, but for some reason that shot of them running looks like an actual "smile"
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 04:08:00 PM
I think the fish cleaning is the other detour option with the crab tank/bins being the other and "Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash" is Nic & Don, they usually give this away in the previews.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 04:13:34 PM
What about the ice climbing though puddin, we see both Ron and Chris with helmets on in the preview.

I would say

Detour:
Ice Climbing//Crab Grabbing ???

Roadblock:
Gutting a fish

with one or two extra task's along the way
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
Well that doesn't seem like a very fair detour option but what do I know? So Rachel & TK do switch tasks? Anyway the Roadblocks are balanced, they each have 1 a piece left.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
I thought that it would be Ice Climbing and Crab Grabbing lol and they climb the other Ice Wall and Roadblock: gutting a fish ewww I hate fish!!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2008, 06:06:23 PM
what the heck is going on in this scene? fishing?
I'm thinking they are just camping and fishing~
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: malice on January 14, 2008, 06:14:39 PM
on Metropolis Forums a user called TARFAN1 looked at the same thing patlini they were at the top of it as were all previous winners then the Nate and Jenn thing came up and well noone believed her now I am starting to believe her lol!!!!!!!!!!

Puddin in the screencaps Rachel and a few others are in a tank the things in the water are lobsters I believe and it seems to be a roadblock??

The creatures in the tank with TK and Rachel look like King Crabs - they are huge!.  Since they are picking them up and looking at them and then putting them back they probably have to find a message on the back of one of the crabs.

This is one task of the DETOUR (Phil says so on the voice over).

The other task seems to be something to do with gutting fish (Ron and Chris)

The Ice Climb looks like the ROADBLOCK.  We see Chris climbing and Ron cheering her on.  Looks to me that the take the boat to the climb site - note that both Chris and Don are wearing life vests while the climb, the same ones that TK and Rachel have on in their scene in the boat.

My guess is that they take the boat to the climb site, find the clue, and one member of team climbs while the other member gets taken to the top of the glacier.  Ron is looking down at Chris and you can see the water just under her as she starts the climb.

After the climb I think they get the clue that tells them to take the helicopter (you see one behind Ron on the Glacier) to the next location.

The reason I think the ice climb is a road block is because while we see Christina going up the ice we see Ron standing on the sidelines with the same kind of helmet on.  If could be that everyone has to wear a helmet for safety reasons......

Edited:  Whoops, just saw that Michael D made the same comment about the helmet....
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 06:24:02 PM
IF that is the roadblock then why would Christina be standing to the side telling Ron that she know's he can do it while he's gutting the fish?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 14, 2008, 06:42:39 PM
IF that is the roadblock then why would Christina be standing to the side telling Ron that she know's he can do it while he's gutting the fish?

Hello all! I am new to this "thing", but I have been on many forums before. Anyway, I believe the part where Ron is seen gutting the fish is the detour. Reasons for my assumption is b/c in the voice over, Phil says, in lieu of, "TK and Rachel are struggling ....with crabs...during the detour." Usually a detour is two tasks which are similar to each other in that they are common tasks native to the natives there.  Thus, I believe this detour will either have teams doing something related to crabs or gutting fishes. As far as I know, it can be praise coming from Christina while they are both gutting fishes together, I suppose. Anyway, that's just my thought.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 14, 2008, 07:40:38 PM
It has to be TK and Rachel that have their first class since it says "and another team misreads a vital clue, threatening their position" which we know is Nick and Don. So since it says "another team", it must mean TK and Rachel since Chris and Ron have had their fair share of 'clashes' and their "first" is long gone.  :waves:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: KristineML on January 14, 2008, 08:02:56 PM

The vidcap has been bothering me.  Why did Rachel drop her stuff and leave TK behind.  She's practically running for her life and he's still back at the taxi.  Aren't they supposed to stay within a few feet of each other at all times?  If this is the race to the end then why is Rachel at full speed and TK has barely moved? 

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I just watched the replay on OLN in Canada.  TK does start running once he's paid the taxi driver and got the bags out of the trunk.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 14, 2008, 08:14:35 PM

I may be completely off base here but take a look at this photo.  It's a photo taken neard the Alyeska ski resort.  Notice the where they are standing on that sidewalk like area and the road off the right.  Doesn't it loo similar to the vidcap of Ron and Christina running? 

I found the photo here:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/maigh/360531688/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maigh/360531688/) .  It says it was taken at the Girwood Forest Fair.  Could the pit stop be at the ski resort? 



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That looks like water in the backgroud.  There is a bay area below the ski resort.  The green runs could very well be ski runs and not golf course paths.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 08:20:24 PM
anon1akacolby -- great find, it looks like a match to me!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 14, 2008, 08:43:30 PM
Has there ever been a time in TAR history where a team THOUGHT they were coming in first in the finale but weren't?

Just thinking because the previews lately have been throwing us off and pulling us in the wrong direction in thinking who's in which place at the time of the scene.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 14, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
Has there ever been a time in TAR history where a team THOUGHT they were coming in first in the finale but weren't?

Just thinking because the previews lately have been throwing us off and pulling us in the wrong direction in thinking who's in which place at the time of the scene.

In the shot of Chris and Ron running, Chris is wearing a completely different outfit from that she had on while Ron guts the fish and when she is climbing the ice wall.

In the shot of Ron gutting the fish, we see shot of Chris holding something and watching.  It looks like a yellow Detour envelope.  Perhaps in this task one team member has to do something with the fish and then the next one something else.  Perhaps Chris had to catch it first and then Ron does his thing. The thing with the Salmon certainly goes together with the crabs since both are the main fishery businesses in Alaska. King Crabs and Salmon are the two main fish exports to the lower 48.

The three men seem to be watching Chris, Rachel and Nick doing something.  The Roadblock?  Which means all three teams are together and the race is on.

The ice challenge may be something both team members must do, one after the other as in the many rappelling tasks TAR is famous for.  Ron climbed first and is waiting for Chris.  (Both have red life vests and helmets on) When completed they will chopper away to the next location.  (Note red heliocopter on the ice behind Ron)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 14, 2008, 09:56:30 PM
It has to be TK and Rachel that have their first class since it says "and another team misreads a vital clue, threatening their position" which we know is Nick and Don. So since it says "another team", it must mean TK and Rachel since Chris and Ron have had their fair share of 'clashes' and their "first" is long gone.  :waves:
It could be but I don't think it is necessarily definite just because it says "another team". In one of the earlier legs a CBS releases said "One team continues burning bridges and making enemies when they force a fellow Racer out of an airline ticket office, and another team is too busy butting heads to realize their car is on a collision course with a speeding bus. and both ended up being about the blondes
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2008, 10:16:24 PM
I like it too Colby!! The golf course wasn't a perfect match but I think your road may be!

Hey CHATEAU!! A little GE here please??  :lol: :kuss:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Zack. on January 14, 2008, 10:16:52 PM
Has there ever been a time in TAR history where a team THOUGHT they were coming in first in the finale but weren't?

Just thinking because the previews lately have been throwing us off and pulling us in the wrong direction in thinking who's in which place at the time of the scene.

Frank and Margarita? I think she realized they were second right near the mat. (The opposite of this is Flo thinking she was second behind Ken/Gerard right until Phil goes into his 40,000 mile speech).

So there's possible finish line run shots of Ron/Chris and TKR. Why am I suspecting this to be a classic CBS diversion and that they aren't showing the true winners run to the finish line (unlike that awesome TAR 10 preview)?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 14, 2008, 10:20:31 PM
I think the only Christina and Ron's shot is at the finish line, Rachel and TK appear to be at the task where all the teams are bunched -- the bushes in the background match the shot of the three racers starnding together.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 14, 2008, 10:24:03 PM
If you've ever watched Deadliest Catch, you know the crab-grab isn't on a commercial boat. Maybe a university station, like Chile?
As far as the mud flats go, forget about it; they're everywhere around Anchorage.
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Ah, the mud flats. Anchorage has the second highest tides in the world, over 40' vertically. You can watch the tide coming in and out, it's actually entertaining. And when it's out, a long wet clay bed is exposed, a fetid blue wasteland stretching anywhere from 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile from shore. As children we're admonished with stories of tourists and children who wander out on the mud flats, get stuck, and die, killed by the incoming tide. More than an old wive's tale, this actually does happen every few years, usually to tourists.
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 14, 2008, 11:15:03 PM
Has there ever been a time in TAR history where a team THOUGHT they were coming in first in the finale but weren't?

Just thinking because the previews lately have been throwing us off and pulling us in the wrong direction in thinking who's in which place at the time of the scene.

Frank and Margarita? I think she realized they were second right near the mat. (The opposite of this is Flo thinking she was second behind Ken/Gerard right until Phil goes into his 40,000 mile speech).
That's exactly right, Margarita was on the 7 train in NY practically counting the money when on the run to the Finish Line, she heard the cheering and realized it was for Rob & Brennan and not them.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 14, 2008, 11:38:34 PM
Has there ever been a time in TAR history where a team THOUGHT they were coming in first in the finale but weren't?

Just thinking because the previews lately have been throwing us off and pulling us in the wrong direction in thinking who's in which place at the time of the scene.

Frank and Margarita? I think she realized they were second right near the mat. (The opposite of this is Flo thinking she was second behind Ken/Gerard right until Phil goes into his 40,000 mile speech).
That's exactly right, Margarita was on the 7 train in NY practically counting the money when on the run to the Finish Line, she heard the cheering and realized it was for Rob & Brennan and not them.
Also Kelly & Jon thought from the stadium to the bike's that they were ahead (there were three clues when they found it.  It wasn't until they got to the bikes and saw fresh tracks that they realized they weren't first.

Season one was odd in that they really didn't have anything to do in New York, just get to the route marker and then the Pit Stop, no roadblock, no detour, nadda.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 11:44:21 PM
LoL I hated Frank and Margarita  :pull
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 12:50:31 AM
If you've ever watched Deadliest Catch, you know the crab-grab isn't on a commercial boat. Maybe a university station, like Chile?
As far as the mud flats go, forget about it; they're everywhere around Anchorage.
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Ah, the mud flats. Anchorage has the second highest tides in the world, over 40' vertically. You can watch the tide coming in and out, it's actually entertaining. And when it's out, a long wet clay bed is exposed, a fetid blue wasteland stretching anywhere from 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile from shore. As children we're admonished with stories of tourists and children who wander out on the mud flats, get stuck, and die, killed by the incoming tide. More than an old wive's tale, this actually does happen every few years, usually to tourists.
(source (http://jlmalaska.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8871695FC270010C!131.entry))

I was at the Deadliest Catch place today Slowhatch but I had no luck but I think your on to something and might have better luck than I did~
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 10:55:35 AM
 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0007.jpg)
Grandfather/Grandson teammates Nick (left) and Don travel via Jet Boat to 20-mile Glacier where they will ice-climb the glacier wall to a waiting helicopter on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday.


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TK performs a Detour in which teams must descend into the hull of a crab boat and search among 500 crabs for one of twenty with a Race-colored target on its underbelly in order to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday

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Father/daughter teammates Ronald and Christina begin the last leg in the race for the one million dollar prize on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 15, 2008, 11:22:43 AM
First clue is to fly to Anchorage Alaska, judging from Christina's expression.

I get these things right all the time don't I?    :lol3:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0002.jpg)

And everybody will be able to catch this flight:  China Air 012, leaving at 4:15 pm

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 15, 2008, 11:23:51 AM
First clue is to fly to Anchorage Alaska, judging from Christina's expression.

I get these things right all the time don't I?    :lol3:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0002.jpg)

And everybody will be able to catch this flight:  China Air 012, leaving at 4:15 pm

yup, i guess they couldnt get on the flight that arrives at 7:00am? or was that out of service?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 15, 2008, 11:34:49 AM
I just put up the flight that Airwise generated for me a long time ago.  Back when we first heard about Taipei.  Airwise is giving the 7:50 am flight now.  Airwise is a little flaking in that way.

However, the one that you get now does not depart and arrive with the flight duration allowed.  That is to say the Airwise time calculation is messed up.  So I figure the version I got a few months ago is more reliable.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 15, 2008, 11:36:12 AM
I just put up the flight that Airwise generated for me a long time ago.  Back when we first heard about Tiapei.  Airwise is giving the 7:50 am flight now.  Airwise is a little flaking in that way.

However, the one that you get now does not depart and arrive with the flight duration allowed.  That is to say the Airwise time calculation messed up.  So I figure the version I got a few months ago is more reliable.

ahh i see. i was just wondering if they took the safe flight as the tar9 final 3 thats all
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 15, 2008, 11:39:54 AM
This flight is the only one.  It is the one that Apskip has been fingering as the way teams arrive in Anchorage.  We just see various dressings of it thanks to the way Airwise accesses its data base.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 15, 2008, 01:15:00 PM
Great Pics Puddin!!  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 15, 2008, 01:18:58 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0001.jpg)
Grandfather/Grandson teammates Nick (left) and Don travel via Jet Boat to 20-mile Glacier where they will ice-climb the glacier wall to a waiting helicopter on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0000.jpg)
TK performs a Detour in which teams must descend into the hull of a crab boat and search among 500 crabs for one of twenty with a Race-colored target on its underbelly in order to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0002.jpg)
Father/daughter teammates Ronald and Christina begin the last leg in the race for the one million dollar prize on THE AMAZING RACE 12 Sunday

Gee, Puddin, we do all the sleuthing before CBS tells us that we are right on: Teams take jet boat to the glacier and then both team members must climb the ice wall to receive clue and chopper off into the wild blue yonder.  Also they confirm that one task in the Detour is search among king crabs to find clue on the back or belly of one of them. 

So what is the other task of the Detour?  Something both team members must do with Salmon?

And what is the Roadblock which Chris, Rachel and Nick seem to be doing?

And by the way, TV Guide must have had real advance info about the finale since they had pictures of the three final teams in the mag which arrived yesterday which means it was printed sometime last week before ep 10 aired.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 01:41:31 PM
Oh I have to get to the mail box Gman, tvguide should be there today.

I'm trying to convince myself that Christina is holding a red ticket and now I think I see it and like Michael said the fish cleaning might just be the Roadblock. Maybe the ice climb is something all teams have to do afterall?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0008.jpg)


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 15, 2008, 01:44:25 PM
GMAN said "And by the way, TV Guide must have had real advance info about the finale since they had pictures of the three final teams in the mag which arrived yesterday which means it was printed sometime last week before ep 10 aired."

Yeah, it's hard when CBS and TV Guide only have 5 months to get those pictures ready.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 01:46:36 PM
Another reason I think it's a road block is that I just can't see Christina standing off to the side not helping her dad.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: teufel on January 15, 2008, 02:02:31 PM
Why is Christina wearing three different shirts in this leg?  :umn:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 02:04:38 PM
Well, they begin in a warm climate so she probably puts on her jacket before going to Alaska (the red/black one)

then she probably gets wet so she cahnges into her blue shirt, OR it's an hours of operation or something so the race doesn't begin until the next day?

Do we think the race ends towards the evening or early in the day?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 02:33:19 PM
This looks like the same path~

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 02:35:01 PM
tvguide~

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 02:35:10 PM
That's not a happy face nick!

OK that's almost guaranteed to be the finish line IMO.

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 02:39:31 PM
That's not a happy face nick!

OK that's almost guaranteed to be the finish line IMO.


Like they know they are last and take the time to put on their backpacks and such?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
well I guess it depends on how far the run to the finish line is from the taxi -- it's weird if it's a long run and they decide to keep their bags on the entire time, it might NOT be the finish line, but in the shot of Christina neither her nor Ron have the bag and both are sprinting.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 02:45:38 PM
oh and I noticed in the shot of Rachel running there is no high road in the background.

Could that be the sight of the task where we see all the teams bunched instead of the finish line? They may be two different locations.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
What I'm saying, in my scenario, I see a final task before the finish line like season 8 & 9 and we might be seeing Don, Ron, TK, watching their teamates perform the final task, however it was decided I don't know? but TK & Rachel pre-plan whos going to perform it and thats why we see her running ahead of TK while he pays the taxi driver and handles the bags ...........So when the task is complete they run to the final pitstop and we see Christina & Ron sprinting with no gear and perhaps Ron & Nick, knowing they are last just pick up their gear or its some other scenario all together.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
puddin - that's the most logical scenario to me. I think it's going to come down to Christina vs. Rachel  :jam:

lol the shot of Don and Nick reminds me of this:

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
haha if thats what happens, we'll see?

So something like this, what order they arrive remains to be seen.

Here comes Rachel

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Ron--" The stress is on"
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there goes Ron & Christina ..

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and here comes Ron & Nick

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0028.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 03:17:45 PM
sounds good to me puddin.
Now we just need to figure out if TK and Rachel go before or after Ron/Christina.

Would Ron and Christina really run like that if they knew they were in 2nd??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
Back to the Finale Site:

from Colby's picture:

That forest fair is held here: 
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The fairgrounds are located at Mile 2.2 on the Alyeska Highway in the community park area.  Parking is available at the Alyeska Resort Daylodge with Shuttle service provided.


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 03:32:13 PM
pictures on the way!!
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 03:33:44 PM
 :yess: :yess:

 i wait for that post every tuesday puddin LMAO
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2008, 03:43:07 PM
Girdwood stage:(http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/39661/2001349665930982564_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001349665930982564)

Road to Girdwood:(http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/41201/2001371980652039857_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001371980652039857)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 03:44:25 PM
oh my gosh a u-turn!

Ron and Christina are going to use it! (i think, i can;t remember if that's where a picture is supposed to be hanging if it's already been used)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 03:46:41 PM
Sneaky bastards putting a U-Turn in the last leg  :snicker:

 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
but puddin is that u-turn used?
maybe christina and ron get uturned ?

either way we know all the teams will most likely end up being bunched.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 15, 2008, 03:47:41 PM
There's a U-turn? I thought there were none left? If Chris/Ron make it there before Nick/Don, they'll probably U-turn them.  I doubt they're the ones being U-Turned since why is Christina just standing there? Wouldn't you want to go back as soon as possible?  :duno:

Edit: It seems that the U-Turn hasn't been used yet, so they're not the ones being U-Turned. They will defiantly decide to U-Turn someone... :pull

About the picture: Maybe that picture of Nick/Don is a decoy. I just can't picture them running to the finish line with their bags in any scenario.... :(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
I'll try to get better pictures, it was a rush job, lol

 :waves: later!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:01:05 PM
Christina has to change shirts at once point in the episode. Most likely before the finish line.
nvm, in one of the shots you can see that she's wearing that blue sweater underneath her red/black jacket.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0042.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:08:24 PM
more rambling:

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/rbk3/15Jan0056.jpg)

scenario(s):

Ron and Christina are in first, in order to use the u-turn a team must finish the road block. Then they get to the detour and the u-turned team has to do both detours?

OR detour -- roadblock -- U Turn -- u turned team has to go back and do the OTHER detour, after the roadblock?

I say this because ANY team that gets to the u-turn is going to use it, it's the last leg and it's for 1 000 000 dollars and it hasn't been used yet.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 15, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
can't believe that there is a u turn in the last leg, that seems just cruel.
though if chris/ron are first I'm sure that they will u-turn nick/gramps because in India they said they would but Nick/gramps had beat them to it.

Wasn't the U-turn after the detour but before the roadblock both times.

it would seem that it would need to be close to both detours to be some semblance of fair.

anyway I  B:)  B:)  B:)  B:)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:12:10 PM
I don't know patlini - they might target Rachel and TK since they are younger and more in shape. Maybe that's why Rachel looks so distraught when running to that final task, because she knows she's in last and has a lot of caching up to do ?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 15, 2008, 04:20:12 PM
 :(  weird video, puddin.  Nick says "For a million dollars, I can't figure it out", and Chris say "please help...", while next to the u-turn   ???

*ramblings follow*  the u-turn appears to be next to a wooden fence/wall (vertical boards).  Christina is there, Nick says his thing (possibly) by the same wall/fence, and TK is pointing at something by a wooden fence/wall.  If the u-turn is not yet used, why is she asking for help? 

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:21:47 PM
because she's waiting for Ron to finish the road block so they can use the U-turn?
that's my take on it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2008, 04:25:12 PM
Could this be where Nich and Chris are (and Rachel) while the three guys are waiting/watching?

What is that big brown circle thing?

Please help sounds like a prayer to me...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:27:14 PM
peach I don't think so -- Christina looks like she's just chilling and very nervous waiting for Ron to come back because she is holding the RB clues in her hand... UNLESS the RB is like a puzzle and she's trying to figure it out??? otherwise she wouldn't just be standing there.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 15, 2008, 04:29:16 PM

What is that big brown circle thing?
..

 :lol:  space aliens   :angel:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 04:47:47 PM
Maybe they have to crack the Da Vinci code  :js:? eta: maybe its the Taiko!  :lol3:

and of course now we have Rachel in her green jacket so...

Maybe shes trying to decide whos behind?
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cluebox or flag?

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 04:48:41 PM
This looks like a logic road block.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2008, 04:56:25 PM
Is that a helmet dangling from her arm or just the TAR pouch?

(http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/41213/2000514808237577936_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000514808237577936)

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Boingo on January 15, 2008, 04:56:54 PM
Maybe they have to crack the Da Vinci code  :js:? eta: maybe its the Taiko!  :lol3:


that's soooo not funny, puddin....  :pull :meow:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 05:05:21 PM
Yeah they have to assemble the taiko Boingo, lol

pouch peach's

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 05:47:58 PM
Cluebox?

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 05:55:22 PM
yup, I see it puddin -- I thought I saw it in the shots of Rachel infront of that big wooden circle thing
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 15, 2008, 06:12:30 PM
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What is that big brown circle thing?

My first thought when I saw it was that it is an aircraft engine with a cover on it but I don't think that is what it is.

otherwise it looks like a big fan with a fabric cover.


As far as the U-turn goes.....i would think that if either Ron/Christina or Nick/Don got to the U-turn that they would U-turn TK/Rachel because they are younger and faster.  But on the other hand, I could see if R/C and Nick/Don are neck and neck with each other how one or the other would U-turn the other.  It's better to U-turn someone you know is on your tail than someone you don't have a clue where they are. 


Also, isn't it Christina who is working on the last task along with Nick and Rachel?  that what I have always thought based upon this picture:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0012.jpg)


Also, I just noticed in the picture of Rachel running she doesn't have on her jacket whereas in the new picture of the big round thing in the background she does have her jacket on.



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0019.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0067.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Belle Book on January 15, 2008, 06:30:42 PM
From the pictures, it could really be anybody's game!  Well, except maybe Nick & Don's.

If there's a U-Turn, I think Ron & Christina use it.  Christina's willing to do whatever it takes, after all.  I think she uses it on either Nick & Don or T.K. & Rachel.

In any case, I think Ron & Christina win and we have our first parent-child winning team!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
pick a parking lot, any parking lot

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/camper.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0084.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0085.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 15, 2008, 08:37:03 PM
gosh darn it this is going to be down to the wire  :pull
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 08:37:59 PM
gosh darn it this is going to be down to the wire  :pull

I really think so!
It may be TAR2 all over again --- I just hope we are happy with the winners.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 15, 2008, 08:51:43 PM
Could we finally have a three way footrace to the mat?

I was going to say that big round thing was the taiko, but puddin beat me to it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 15, 2008, 08:58:36 PM
There is an Anchorage taiko club (http://www.taikoalaska.org/), but the drums in the photo gallery look standard-issue (non-decorated).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 09:52:58 PM
With all the info we have I thought this would be a walk in the park  :pull

lets see if anything matchs

Anchorage City --

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 09:57:08 PM
tugboat

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 15, 2008, 10:11:28 PM
A long walkway over a mud flat with a shed in it...something similar to this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=anchorage+alaska+&ie=UTF8&ll=61.224683,-149.906704&spn=0.001482,0.005879&t=h&z=18&om=1), maybe.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 10:21:02 PM
This is a globe in the background so we may be able to find the roadblock location if we search something involving globes...unless it was added there by the race.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0066.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
A long walkway over a mud flat with a shed in it...something similar to this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=anchorage+alaska+&ie=UTF8&ll=61.224683,-149.906704&spn=0.001482,0.005879&t=h&z=18&om=1), maybe.
Yeah like that Slowhatch  :hfive: :ya3: , just for getting a clue?

Michael I'm not seeing a globe, I'm seeing what looks like the spare tire on the back of my Honda  :umn:

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 10:59:07 PM
oh in the shots or rachel it looks like a globe or something cause you see little green blobs all around it, but in that shot it looks nothing like one LOL  :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2008, 11:06:41 PM
I'm so sick of looking for stuff I can't find  :lol:, you know I can't even find a decent crab boat!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 11:07:47 PM
LOL me too puddin, i was trying to find that muddy area and the stupid road block area but nothing.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 15, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
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you know I can't even find a decent crab boat!!
Judging by the caps, we're not looking for a decent crab boat.  :snicker:
Here (http://www.dec.state.ak.us/spar/perp/cookinletpor/cipporMap01.pdf)'s the topo, overhead photo of 39-S, etc. I'm not saying it's the Cook Inlet Tug&Barge pier--no match yet--but it's something similar.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 15, 2008, 11:25:28 PM
Hm...so I'm on Google Maps and tracked where Slowhatch provided us with the map, and I used the Alyeska Ski Resort as a reference point. They are about >40 miles apart, give or take a few miles. I suppose these may be plausible locations for the race, but I am still unsure as the bird's eye view doesn't work...


The picture isn't the clearest, but I found it....whether or not it is actually good evidence, I don't know

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 15, 2008, 11:41:40 PM
So Phil is a big FAT LIAR.

Episode #4 quote (and you can see him speaking this at the location, its not a voice over), "This is the first of only two U-Turns found along the race."

Episode #8 quote(and again you can see him at the location speaking the words), "This is the 2nd of only two U-Turns found along the race course."

I can understand why he would say one Fast FOrward, in episode 7 (even though we had reports of one in episode 5).  After all no one used it and this was recorded after that, so they could change his speech to reflect it.

But this.....They clearly mention 1 and  2 at the sites and both were used. 

That pisses me off.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: SingularStars on January 15, 2008, 11:50:53 PM
This season has been full of lies, hasn't it?

Long time lurker, first time poster here. I know I joined at a crap time since this season is almost over, but I'll do anything I can to be of assisstance or to just put in my opinion. Nice to meet everybody.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 15, 2008, 11:52:44 PM
Hey SingularStars!

yup, lies seem to be the theme this season LOL

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 15, 2008, 11:56:45 PM
 :partie: :party:

 :welcome3:
SingularStars

Always glad to have another lurker join the madhouse.

And while this cycle is winding down, but look to the positive  hopefully soon we have cycle 13.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: SingularStars on January 15, 2008, 11:59:22 PM
I hope! I'm obsessed with this show, not that that's a bad thing or anything. At my school I'm known as the TAR nut. Haha.

Thanks for the warm welcome you guys.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: down_with_alli on January 16, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
Do you think the U-turn might just be a part of the final task e.g. remembering who got U-turned by who etc.?

I can't see Phil going "This is the 2nd of only 2 U-turns in the race" and then there being another one. Plus, I don't think they'll be that cruel as to put one on the final leg.

ETA: My bet is that TK/Rachel win (boooring) but I'm saying that purely based on them being the most physically fit out of the F3 and them spending craploads on the hotel.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 16, 2008, 12:05:37 AM
Trust me everyone here understands perfectly.   :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 12:07:14 AM
Do you think the U-turn might just be a part of the final task e.g. remembering who got U-turned by who etc.?

I can't see Phil going "This is the 2nd of only 2 U-turns in the race" and then there being another one. Plus, I don't think they'll be that cruel as to put one on the final leg.

I don't think so -- I think they just wanted the finale to be a complete surprise for once? who knows.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 16, 2008, 12:16:48 AM
Do you think the U-turn might just be a part of the final task e.g. remembering who got U-turned by who etc.?

I can't see Phil going "This is the 2nd of only 2 U-turns in the race" and then there being another one. Plus, I don't think they'll be that cruel as to put one on the final leg.

I don't know.

While they have done tasks that reflect on the race they have run.  Whether its order of animals through the race (season 3), order of flags of countries you visited (What has to be the hardest task at the end ever), build a map of North America (Family Edition), or even ALll Stars (how you feel about the teams you raced with). 

Now the photo evidence we have shows one person (Christina) at the U-Turn sign with a Roadblock clue in her hand (red).  So far the U-Turns have been at the next route marker after a detour (ie becuase you go back and do the other side of the detour).  SO why would she have a roadblock clue, and why wouldn't Ron be beside her.

So I can see this as being part of a test for what has happened previously (if so its good that Jenn & NAte aren't here, because they still think Nic & Don yielded Kynt & Vyxsin, haha).

BUt the roadblock would have to be more then that.  Thats really nothing.  So perhaps part of it.

Or it easily could be one shown in advance of a detour (whch would certainly be new) as a way of shocking the teamsadn  being down right before the roadblock and thus she's waiting for Ron to finish so they could U-turn some one.

What do we think?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 12:20:11 AM
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Or it easily could be one shown in advance of a detour (whch would certainly be new) as a way of shocking the teams and  being down right before the roadblock and thus she's waiting for Ron to finish so they could U-turn some one.

That's what I'm thinking. I think she's waiting for Ron to finish the RB and no team is allowed to uturn until the RB is completed, which also indicates that Ron/Chris are in first because another team would have used it for sure, it is the final leg.

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: down_with_alli on January 16, 2008, 12:24:30 AM
Well the reason why she has the RB clue in her hand is because maybe that is a part of the RB (final?) task? Like there are different stations for past legs and you have to remember something specific from each leg? If so, it'll be something her, Rachel, and Nick have to do before they continue on?

Now my brain is hurting. ARGH.

ETA: Only reason why I think it's a RB task and the fact that she is doing it is because of the shot where we see TK, Don and Ron standing and waiting for their respective partners.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 16, 2008, 12:29:02 AM
Well its either part of the logic roadblock or its an unusual U-Turn thats Is either before both detours, or its a device to kill a team moments before the finish line.  WHich if thats the case.  I will be pissed off.

I think I would have a hard time respecting the show for that.  As it is I hate the idea of a "Surprise" U-Turn on the final leg.

And it is absolutely the location of the roadblock, that isn't in question.  In one picture that Puddin posted you can see the wall (the racers all walking around), the big circle.  Below it is a clue box, and to the left hand side is the U-Turn box (you can see the design of the symbol).

SO its at the roadblock.  THe only question is, is it part of the roadblock or a stupid twist at the end of the race?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 16, 2008, 12:33:50 AM
Slowhatch--you are so warm I can smell the mud! Thanks thatsfunny too--where is that picture taken?

And :welcome2: to the forum SingularStars!

And down with alli: the hotel spoiler was disproved here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg248098.html#msg248098  :waves:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 12:44:49 AM
Welcome SingularStars :hithere:

Thats not such a bad idea, that the U-Turn is there as a clue to put the Roadblock together so now we think there are 2 roadblocks with the fish cleaning being the other where Chris tells Ron he has to or can do it then she gets stuck doing the last one along with Nick & Rachel.

And peach, I've been looking around the Anchorage & Girdwood areas and there aren't too many pieces of flat, green land like that .. I saw one that was some sort of ball field but it didn't look the same but your golf course might be something to look further into.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 16, 2008, 12:51:49 AM
Puddin you might have it.  The U-Turn is a dual Roadblock where one partner finishes one part and when finished the other starts the 2nd half.  That isn't so bad, and its actually a cool idea.

I was getting pissed.  But leave it to the pros.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
Puddin you might have it.  The U-Turn is a dual Roadblock where one partner finishes one part and when finished the other starts the 2nd half.  That isn't so bad, and its actually a cool idea.

I was getting pissed.  But leave it to the pros.
Actually thats not what I meant but your idea sounds better mswood  :lol:

.........and thatsfunny, yes! something like that!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 16, 2008, 01:47:47 AM
This shot was taken between 1:32 and 2:40 pm (assumes July 29th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0019.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 16, 2008, 01:57:57 AM
Welcome SingularStars!!!!  :waves: :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 16, 2008, 02:10:24 AM
There are two of those large round canvas disks.  The first one faces North and is against a structure with two castle like turrets and the other faces South and is against a wooden fence.

Each one has a Speed Bump board at it. 

The Cluebox for this Roadblock is at the first one.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 02:24:14 AM
Eagle eye! Good job Chateau  :yess:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: red_sox on January 16, 2008, 02:38:35 AM
HELLO EVERYONE

I've been trying to avoid RFF like the plague this season, so that i didn't get spoiled... but i gave up today haha.
the episodes aren't being youtubed anymore!! i haven't seen the past 2 episodes.. and it's killing my life!
i tried d/ling the torrents but it takes over 2 days to download one episode on my comp.. i have no more options :[
im really sad.

poo.

does anyone here have the ability to upload the last 2 episodes in secret to youtube so i can watch them? haha xx
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 16, 2008, 02:45:17 AM
Hey! A fellow Red Sox fan!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 02:56:13 AM
Wrong thread to ask red_sox, try media.

See this looks like a golf course to me anyway ..and since Colby has found that the eliminated teams are staying at Alyeska Resort and peach has shown us pretty pictures of the Anchorage Golf Course this might be where the task/Roadblock takes place?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0034.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: down_with_alli on January 16, 2008, 04:09:34 AM
So...

Detour: Crabs or Cleaning (fish?)
Roadblock: Super-dooper-giant-memory-one/doing tasks from previous legs in relation to U-turns and Speed Bumps
Additional tasks: Wall climb
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 06:47:25 AM
I still don't see how the u-turn "memory" thing will be part of the roadblock. It can't be hard to remember who u-turned who, everybody talked about it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: yikes on January 16, 2008, 06:51:46 AM
I still don't see how the u-turn "memory" thing will be part of the roadblock. It can't be hard to remember who u-turned who, everybody talked about it.

IF they ever did for fear of retaliation.  And it's possible that the lead teams never found that it was used on others. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: down_with_alli on January 16, 2008, 07:07:31 AM
I still don't see how the u-turn "memory" thing will be part of the roadblock. It can't be hard to remember who u-turned who, everybody talked about it.

Well it probably serves a similar purpose to those Speed Bump signs as well.

Now if we knew what those purposes actually were  :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: serendipity on January 16, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
I agree that the "U-turn" sign is really part of a roadblock, just a memory task before the finish line like season 9 finale.

Maybe they have to figure out where does U-turn appear on the race and point out the location on the globe? (I think the round-shaped thing is a globe) This may not be easy since we have seen before that teams do not have good memory as we are.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 16, 2008, 08:22:29 AM
Slowhatch--you are so warm I can smell the mud! Thanks thatsfunny too--where is that picture taken?

Hm...I actually found it online while looking on Google. It's a 360 view of Port of Anchorage, with a view of the Anchorage skyline in behind, I'm supposing.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 16, 2008, 08:38:29 AM
I agree that the "U-turn" sign is really part of a roadblock, just a memory task before the finish line like season 9 finale.

Maybe they have to figure out where does U-turn appear on the race and point out the location on the globe? (I think the round-shaped thing is a globe) This may not be easy since we have seen before that teams do not have good memory as we are.

that's what i went to bed last night thinking  :lol:

I just think that the will be a "special" last task like there has been since season 8 where only one team member can participate (road block - i know)

and I think that the u turn is part of it. 

Christina is saying please help
and Nick is saying I can't figure this out for 1million dollars
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 16, 2008, 10:25:17 AM
Slowhatch--you are so warm I can smell the mud! Thanks thatsfunny too--where is that picture taken?

Hm...I actually found it online while looking on Google. It's a 360 view of Port of Anchorage, with a view of the Anchorage skyline in behind, I'm supposing.

just found that too--thanks!

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 16, 2008, 11:10:35 AM
We have some inconsistencies hereabouts:

Some have said that scenes of teams running along path and then three team members standing and watching Chris, Rachel and Nick doing the final Roadblock are on the way to the finish line after the last task.

But look at Rachel in the jet boat ride she is wearing a green windbreaker; when she is doing the "final roadblock" task she is also wearing the green windbreaker; BUT when she is running to that site she is wearing just a gray tee shirt and is carrying nothing.  So something is out of sequence.

Also Chris in the running shot is wearing her blue shirt; in the "final roadblock" task she is wearing the brown sweater she is wearing during the ice climb and fish gutting by Ron.  So again we are out of sequence since we see no sweater around her waist as she runs and does not have a back pack.

So the shots of Chris, Rachel and Nick doing the ROADBLOCK task calling for identifying different events during the trip must come before the teams running on the path.

Unless, of course, we have events over two days.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 11:20:10 AM
We know that now with the new video Gman, we were guessing a possable scenario with lack of something to do. The U-Turn must be part of what looks like the last Roadblock, but what exactly they are doing remains to be seen, I agree its probably a memory thing before the sprint to the final mat.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 16, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
I think we may be on to something here regarding this Roadblock......


The large round disk like things may very well be maps showing the location of where each leg took place, i.e., Amsterdam, Florence, Italy, Burkina-Faso, etc.It was also pointed out that there is a U-turn and cluebox under one of those large round maps and of course we see Christina standing at a U-Turn as well.

My guess is that the person doing the Roadblock must go to each large round map and perhaps somewhere on the wall or on a piece of paper put down the order of tasks performed on that leg.  Further they if there was a speed bump or U-Turn or FF they would also have to indicate if it was used/performed.  There may be more to it but I think we have a majory memory task here.

For instance in Leg 8 in Mumbai, India

Speed Bump:  Kynt & Vixen
Detour:  Paste 'Em and Thread 'Em.
U-Turn:  used by Kynt & Vixen on Nick & Don
Roadblock:  Deliver propane gas canisters


Only after they put each leg in the correct order will they get the final clue to run to the final mat. 

so that picture of the Christina doesn't mean there is an actual U-turn but rather she is trying to recall the order of tasks on a previous leg.



Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
Enjoy!


Online Videos by Veoh.com
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
thanks puddin
nice creative editing there..

I bet you it cuts to commerical and it comes back and Christina has no problem lmao

geez thinks really arent looking good for nick and don now.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 16, 2008, 03:26:40 PM
So chris/ron are first to the wall of ice. and it is just a climb and get the next clue.

First task in Alaska?

Nick better change out of his shorts ha!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
well we see no sign of TK and Rachel so they might be a head still

nvm!! wow so ron and chris ARE in first
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 16, 2008, 03:48:02 PM
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First task in Alaska?

Most likely.  Then they take the helicopter back to the launch point so they can go to their next task.


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nvm!! wow so ron and chris ARE in first

Now they are.  from all the vidcaps of everyone at the Roadblock everyone catches up so who is first at the ice climb really doesn't give us much. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 03:49:27 PM
well the thing is we don't know how "equalized" the teams are in that shot where we see Ron, TK, and Don.

For all we know Ron and Don could have just showed up and TK and Rachel could have been doing the RB for the past 10 minutes so they'd be really far ahead. or any other team could be ahead.


There are so many confusing things about this leg!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 16, 2008, 04:15:34 PM

Hmmm..........

"Photo Finish"

1.  close race to the mat with teams neck and neck.

2.  the final task comes down to place the correct "photo" to the right leg, e.g., Mumbai leg - U-Turn is used by Kynt & Vixen on who?  Nick and Don.  (assuming they don't know it was used or they don't know who it was used on.)  Teams could be neck and neck on the Roadblock with just trying to figure out one task on a leg. 


It could very well be that it all comes down to scenario 2. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: patlini on January 16, 2008, 04:18:21 PM
I was thinking about the new guy that they brought over to design tasks - was on Survivor. (sorry don't know his name)

would anyone recognise that same task from Survivor or a task similar.

I watch Survivor series haphazardly so it doesn't strike any chords with me.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 04:19:15 PM
Somebody pointed out that there are clothing inconsistencies for the "u-turn" road block to be right before the finish line. Both Christina and Rachel appear to change (or take off sweaters) from the time they are doing the RB to the time they are at the believed finish line  path. I would say that it goes:

1. Ice Climb
2. Detour
3. Road Block (the one with fake u-turn and all)
4. Final task before finish line that all teams are at one point together.

It makes sense because like puddin said -- that could explain why Nick and Don don't drop their bags if they see Ron and Christina or TK and Rachel leaving they would know that they weren't in first.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 16, 2008, 04:39:58 PM
geez thinks really arent looking good for nick and don now.

Why's that? It looked in the preview that Don was doing that task fairly fast. :js:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 04:40:51 PM
Well, for one they are behind Ron and Christina going to the ice climb, then we have the fact that we know that Nick messes up at the road block, and then we have that shot of them looking defeated running to the finish mat.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 16, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
Well, for one they are behind Ron and Christina going to the ice climb, then we have the fact that we know that Nick messes up at the road block, and then we have that shot of them looking defeated running to the finish mat.

But aren't they right behind them, along with TK/Rachel? They'll probably get there really quick, maybe while Chris is still climbing, unless it's just editing...)
Nick does seem to mess up on the road block, but it might not be as serious since CBS never puts the serious complications in the previews... How do we know if the photos were taken when the race was in effect? Could it have not been taken after they ran and just had them do it again for show? Just wondering... :duno:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 05:01:16 PM
I don't think they'd do that Oliver (retake the picture to mislead people I mean)
BUT, just because things look bad for them does not mean they don't have a chance, we all know how previews tend to be misleading, so we'll see on Sunday !! :D
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 16, 2008, 05:33:45 PM
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we know that Nick messes up at the road block

we do??

the only shot of Nick I recall is where he is trying to recall something in saying something like, "why can't I figure this out for a million dollars" or something to that affect. 

am I missing something?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
well, I meant we know he messes up some how thanks to web clues and the preview that aired at the end of episode 10
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 16, 2008, 05:39:55 PM
I think he just doesnt get it he may mess it up  :umn: oops lol
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 06:03:54 PM
But Michael we dont know if that running on the path is to the final mat? I'm thinking they run to the mat right after they complete the final Roadblock, that doesn't match up with the clothes that we see and yeah I'm thinking there are 2 seperate Roadblocks, one being the fish cleaning and the other being the puzzle whatever. If Ron is cleaning fish in the one then it makes sense that Christina has to do the final one because its her turn rounding it off to 6 a piece.  :pull
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 06:08:58 PM
That's true puddin --
I'm so confused! I would say that path is 100% the finish line based on how Nick and Don look in the TV guide preview and how Chris and Ron look when they are running, but we can never be too sure.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 16, 2008, 06:22:09 PM
"Hi, my name is Matt (http://www.theascendingpath.com/ap_guides.htm)..."

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 06:32:21 PM
 :lol: that's awesome slowhatch!
great find.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 16, 2008, 07:01:29 PM
Eureka!!! After watching that vid again and again I noticed that boat name is called "Glacier Jet." They depart daily from the Knik River which is where I found the image of the Port of Anchorage. Also...here's a big one, "Transportation [to the Glacier, possibly may be Matanuska] is provided from the Alyeska Prince Resort in Girdwood upon request only." This is the place where some people had made assumptions of where they are at. I think it all ties in b/c the glacier climb (assuming it is Matanuska), the walkway over mud flats overlooking the Anchorage skyline, and the Alyeska Resort are all relatively near each other, probably about <100 miles, which is no more than 2.5 hours by taxi. I am assuming should they be at the Alyeska Resort, their next possible clue may be to get to the glacier place, and climb.

...Just my opinion.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 16, 2008, 07:42:44 PM
 :spy: Check the summary on page 1. We're following the work of Peach, who was following the work of Colby.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 16, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
Quote
Check the summary on page 1. We're following the work of Peach, who was following the work of Colby.

Who is following the word of his co-worker, who heard it from her mom, who was in a a guide/boat driver from Glacier Jet! 


 :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 16, 2008, 09:03:43 PM
And this is how we came to know all the details...

TAR 12 EP 11 Film permits

click-click slideshow



Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:06:09 PM
Look:

Rachel at the RB doesn't have her sweater on:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)


But here she does:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0039.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: SingularStars on January 16, 2008, 10:09:15 PM
Oooh, that's wierd, this leg is confusing to me, haha.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:13:08 PM
Oooh, that's wierd, this leg is confusing to me, haha.

me too!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 16, 2008, 10:13:24 PM
Look:

Rachel at the RB doesn't have her sweater on:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)


But here she does:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0039.jpg)

normal tar 13 legs 12 roadblocks
this tar 11 legs 11 roadblocks, hence we are missing one, so IMO there is 2 roadblocks on the final leg
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:14:17 PM
Yeah, I think the one of Rachel with the clue to her forehead is the one where all the teams are bunched because shes wearing what she is wearing when running out of the cab.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 16, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
thatsfunny, I am giving you the same advice I have to several other newbies. Read all the threads back to July 1 before you decide to comment. Frequently things you say will conflict with previously available knowledge if you fail to do this. In your case, "I think it all ties in b/c the glacier climb (assuming it is Matanuska), the walkway over mud flats overlooking the Anchorage skyline, and the Alyeska Resort are all relatively near each other, probably about <100 miles, which is no more than 2.5 hours by taxi. " is kind of redundant with the information from months ago that Girdwood and the Alyeska Resort are about 37 miles from Anchorage International Airport (which is about 5 miles from downtown Anchorage). Put your own differential on for the mud flats. The time should be less than one hour by taxi.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:18:04 PM
Look:

Rachel at the RB doesn't have her sweater on:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0019.jpg)

But here she does:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0039.jpg)

normal tar 13 legs 12 roadblocks
this tar 11 legs 11 roadblocks, hence we are missing one, so IMO there is 2 roadblocks on the final leg
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 16, 2008, 10:27:58 PM
So, it looks like all three Roadblockers are stumped by the second Speed Bump board.

It must be a hard question.

Who gets it first?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 16, 2008, 10:29:00 PM
This shot was taken here (thanks to Peach) between 8:50 and 9:30 am (assumes July 29th).

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:29:47 PM
I'll hazzard a guess and say Christina finishes first, she's smart -- no offense to Rachel but we have seen that she isn't very bright and we can see in the preview Nick having problems.

wow great job Chateau!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 16, 2008, 10:47:39 PM
Do you really think Nick saying that hes having a hard time really means hes not doing so good at the RB? Christina is praying so you think shes have an easier time than Nick? Rachel is holding the clue against her forehead thinking?  But I do have to say that Asians are smart, my bf's kids are half Asian and man can they put 2 & 2 together fast, it just comes easy for them.  :meow:

anyway..

This makes no sense? are you saying that shes running to what we think is the final bunched up RB? Do you think she stopped her sprint to put her jacket on? She might have taken her jacket off at the RB at some point but on then off again? I just don't think so, this sprint must be to somewhere esle.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0019.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0039.jpg)
[/quote]

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 10:49:26 PM
thats what im saying puddin, it makes no sense that she has her sweater!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 16, 2008, 11:05:48 PM
thatsfunny, I am giving you the same advice I have to several other newbies. Read all the threads back to July 1 before you decide to comment. Frequently things you say will conflict with previously available knowledge if you fail to do this. In your case, "I think it all ties in b/c the glacier climb (assuming it is Matanuska), the walkway over mud flats overlooking the Anchorage skyline, and the Alyeska Resort are all relatively near each other, probably about <100 miles, which is no more than 2.5 hours by taxi. " is kind of redundant with the information from months ago that Girdwood and the Alyeska Resort are about 37 miles from Anchorage International Airport (which is about 5 miles from downtown Anchorage). Put your own differential on for the mud flats. The time should be less than one hour by taxi.

Ah...I'm afraid you have just witnessed one of my many moments of being lost in a trance, going aloof, and making myself look somewhat resourceful. Eh..you'll find that a lot with me. I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong, but more so prove to myself something, which I have no clue what it is. No worries..I'm adapting myself into reading from the beginning first- one of the many reasons why I get marked off in school. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
don't worry lmao, a lot of people don't have enough time to go back and read posts from July 1st
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 16, 2008, 11:22:13 PM
don't worry lmao, a lot of people don't have enough time to go back and read posts from July 1st

haha You got that right..darn AP classes...Also, I'm not that great with the 21st century internet lingo so I don't really get what your acronyms mean (ie lmao, or rofl, or everything else people use). I just know "lol," though over the several years I've been on forums it has come to mean "I acknowledge your statement, though it was not by any means hilarious"
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 16, 2008, 11:24:45 PM
haha, lmao = laughing my ass off
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 16, 2008, 11:53:19 PM
haha, lmao = laughing my ass off

No acronym holds any hilarity in it anymore. Lmao is just another misspelling of "Lame-o"
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 16, 2008, 11:55:51 PM
Back on topic guys... ;D

There are two of those large round canvas disks.  The first one faces North and is against a structure with two castle like turrets and the other faces South and is against a wooden fence.

Each one has a Speed Bump board at it. 

The Cluebox for this Roadblock is at the first one.

A turrent thingy:

Alyeska Roundhouse:

(http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/40264/2003235425369231206_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003235425369231206)
(http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/40794/2003299178266261950_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003299178266261950)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 12:15:11 AM
Hold on Peach!

I'm just talking about this thing:

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 17, 2008, 12:23:25 AM
Shoot!  :lol: :lol3: :lol:

Back to the drawing board... :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 12:32:47 AM
Rachel takes off the green jacket during her try at the Roadblock.  The shot of her pensively holding the Roadblock papers is with out the jacket.

If the Roadblock consists of answering questions at each Speed Bump board then shes got one down and one to go in this shot.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0067.jpg)

And is sweating out the completion of the second part here

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 01:52:18 AM
This shot was taken between 9:00 and 9:33 am (assumes July 29th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0005.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 17, 2008, 09:04:13 AM
Rachel takes off the green jacket during her try at the Roadblock.  The shot of her pensively holding the Roadblock papers is with out the jacket.

If the Roadblock consists of answering questions at each Speed Bump board then shes got one down and one to go in this shot.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0067.jpg)

And is sweating out the completion of the second part here

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/promo/15Jan0047.jpg)

Taking off her jacket makes sense; the weather in Alaska in the summer is confusing: a day will start off cool (especially if you are in a jet boat or climbing a glacier) but as the day goes on the sun warms the air up quite a bit.  So it is logical that Rachel could have started off the roadblock since it seems to come after the ice climb and it gets warmer the longer she is out in the sun.

But on the other hand there may be two roadblocks; one before the crab grab and one afterwards.  Rachel does not have her green jacket on during the crab grab; during the race to wherever and holding the "second" roadblock clue
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 17, 2008, 09:12:04 AM
This shot was taken between 9:00 and 9:33 am (assumes July 29th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0005.jpg)

If Chateau's times are correct, and he has been right on throughout TAR12, then we have some time to fill in between Rachel at the Crab Grab (9:00AM to 9:33AM) and the time she is seen running from the taxi (1:32PM - 2:40PM).  Time enough to travel to a new location and start the Roadblock (FOUR HOURS!)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 10:16:54 AM
Opps!  :groan:

I don't know why I started calling this a 'Speed Bump board'

Clearly, it is a U-Turn board   :lol:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/ep11/15Jan0077.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 10:36:01 AM
These two shots are essentially the same time.  Obviously the first one precedes the second one.  In the first shot they are driving to the West.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0040.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0032.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 10:39:28 AM
These two shots are essentially the same time.  Obviously the first one precedes the second one.  In the first shot they are driving to the West.

Same time as which time Chateau? and  :jam:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 10:49:37 AM
Puddin, That's the 1:32 to 2:40 pm time.

Does anybody have a fuller version of  a shot from this clip that shows the racers shadows on the ground?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0030.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 10:56:38 AM
I'll try Chateau

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 11:25:04 AM
There  is not enough to go by.  I can just try to guess that it is an early time, like 10 to 11 ish.  It does not look high enough to be the 1:30 to 2:40 kind of time.  That was the sun's highest point of the day (47.5 degrees).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 12:59:15 PM
I'm following this thread closely now! I need to place my bet with my friends by Saturday and if I pick the winner right I can win 50 dollars.

Thanks for the times Chateau
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 01:56:31 PM
Something like this ..and will update if we get more clues.


Clues~


DON/NICOLAS, TK/RACHEL AND RON/CHRISTINA HAVE ONE FINAL LEG FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE


The Remaining Three Teams Compete in the Final Leg During the Season Finale

*The last three Teams set off on their final leg,
*as one Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash,
*and another Team misreads a vital clue that threatens their position
*In a final Amazing Race leg unlike any homestretch before it, the Racers are surprised to learn upon checkout that their next flight is their last for the entire race: the entire leg, all the way through the finish line, will play out in the city, the wilderness, by the ocean, on glaciers, and in the national parks of Alaska.
*One often combative Team comes together, while one usually cohesive Team clashes.
*One Team misreads a vital clue. Will this lead to the Team's downfall?
*After 10 cities, 4 continents, and nearly 30,000 miles, who will cross the finish line first and win the one million dollar prize?


Teams leaving the C.S.K. Memorial Hall pitstop in Taipei, Taiwan--all teams should be on the same flight
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7373/15jan0003rt7.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003rt7.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2516/15jan0029kn0.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0029kn0.jpg)

 



:bar:
   TASK 
Thanks to CBS we now know that the Ice Climb is something all teams must do and thanks to Chateau we know it is early on:
teams travel via Jet Boat to 20-mile Glacier where they will ice-climb the glacier wall to a waiting helicopter  
But we already knew that thanks Colby & peach (see first post of this thread for a summary (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.0.html))

Chateau d if: This shot was taken here (thanks to Peach) between 8:50 and 9:30 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4771/17jan0004cr4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0004cr4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7620/17jan0005tj4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0005tj4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6743/17jan0006lg5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0006lg5.jpg) Editing would make it seem that Ron & Chris are first to this task

 (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3782/17jan0007wg9.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0007wg9.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9559/15jan0010dj8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010dj8.jpg) Followed by Rachel & TK

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5855/17jan0008rt5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0008rt5.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/144/15jan0022rt5.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0022rt5.jpg) Ron & Nick


:bar:
Detour
Thanks to CBS we know this is one of the Detour choices :
Detour in which teams must descend into the hull of a crab boat and search among 500 crabs for one of twenty with a Race-colored target on its underbelly in order to receive their next clue  
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2907/15jan0020du1.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0020du1.jpg)
Chateau d if: This shot was taken between 9:00 and 9:33 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4393/15jan0004bk8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0004bk8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2272/15jan0000hq4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0000hq4.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5084/15jan0001al8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0001al8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8281/15jan0002wc7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0002wc7.jpg)
The Anchorage Docks, Slowhatch provides a link here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.msg248435.html#msg248435)
Chateau d if :This shot was taken here (thanks to Puddin and Slowhatch) between 10:00 and 10:09 am (assumes July 29th). [Ron & Nick]

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9366/15jan0015cb8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0015cb8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8600/15jan0014hc4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0014hc4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8702/15jan0019ka4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0019ka4.jpg)


:bar:
Fish cleaning, Roadblock #1? or Detour choice? Much debate about this..  

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8379/15jan0010ug7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010ug7.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5602/14jan0000du1.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14jan0000du1.jpg) It appears that Chris is holding the red roadblock clue and she is telling Ron "you can do this"

:bar:
Roadblock #2? Before the finish line? Puzzle? No matter we know this is a Roadblock

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4969/15jan0031ui6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0031ui6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7537/15jan0032em8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0032em8.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3751/15jan0034qb7.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0034qb7.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1773/15jan0040mw9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0040mw9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9645/15jan0073xp0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0073xp0.jpg) Nick

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9457/15jan0039qc6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0039qc6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5162/15jan0047lr5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0047lr5.jpg) Rachel


(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7882/15jan0027zj3.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0027zj3.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/293/15jan0041jg2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0041jg2.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/940/15jan0042jy5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0042jy5.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1874/15jan0075xs5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0075xs5.jpg) Chris

  (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4982/15jan0011dz1.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0011dz1.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3622/15jan0012ra2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0012ra2.jpg)  Ron/ TK/ Don watch , Ron yells "the stress is ON!"
:bar:
Misc~  
Chateau d if:   1:32 to 2:40 pm  ( Rachel & TK taxi )

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1337/15jan0013fz1.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0013fz1.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/540/15jan0025es9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0025es9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4627/15jan0013is5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0013is5.jpg)

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3560/15jan0003xo8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003xo8.jpg) Don comes down on Nick for mis-reading a clue


running running -------- from to where to where is the question

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3786/15jan0016ak5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0016ak5.jpg)
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 17, 2008, 02:10:27 PM
If the pitstop is thete the last photo of Nicolas and Don is bad they are carrying backpacks to the finish line?? the other two teams arent??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 02:25:03 PM
If the pitstop is thete the last photo of Nicolas and Don is bad they are carrying backpacks to the finish line?? the other two teams arent??
"If" but I don't think this is the case.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
what do you think it is then puddin
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 17, 2008, 03:16:51 PM
Do we know the crab/fish location??
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 04:11:58 PM
what do you think it is then puddin
I think its 3 teams running someplace to somewhere :D Coat on coat off, wax on wax off...
Do we know the crab/fish location??
Nope! Somewhere near water.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 04:13:02 PM
lmao puddin -- you'd think we'd know so much more with all the information we have from this episode :(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Chateau are you able to get a time frame from this shot:

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9118/15jan0028xg9.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 17, 2008, 04:51:22 PM
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Do we know the crab/fish location??

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Nope! Somewhere near water.



and also in a boat.   :lol:


Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gator27 on January 17, 2008, 04:56:27 PM
Maybe all the teams have to do the U-turn and the second part of the Detour becomes a Roadblock.  Don/Nick misread a clue, and maybe this is where that happens.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 17, 2008, 05:23:40 PM
Clue pick-up at the docks--then off to a boat --or there are some fish factory places too... We need this place and the finale task locale guys-- and the actual pitstop (Girdwood/Alyeska -- golf course or near ski slopes-- (I like Colby's road) ) and we have it all, don't we ??!

  Oh yeah and Boingo's drum...   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 17, 2008, 06:06:27 PM
wouldn't they need film permits for filming in the Alyeska area?  is there a way to find out if there was a film permit for that area?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 06:43:39 PM
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Chateau are you able to get a time frame from this shot:

Late.  As in the 1:30 to 2:40 kind of time.

It looks like high sun.  Not Burkina Faso kind of high but as high as it gets in Alaska.

Just a fair warning here:  I don't have enough time resolution to really say if any team finishes ahead of another.  It just looks like we have some shots with low sun and some with high sun.  But the time span of when the sun is up to within one half a degree of its maximum is 70 minutes long!   :groan:

And not having specific locations in GE, I can't use shadow direction in any of the shots (except for the boats by the glacier).  It's a sad day for shadows.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 07:08:49 PM
They know better than to show us the 3 teams racing toward the finish line, they know we have a secret weapon named Chateau :bow: :crown!

peach I've been to Homer, Seward ,Kenai  etc looking for the fish cleaning place. I don't think its commercial fishing .. pick a place any place, personally I like Homer  ;D

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 08:01:41 PM
Now it looks like a globe Michael  :tup:
(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/41326/2003777538073250883_rs.jpg)
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 08:05:40 PM
I knew it!
go me!

I was re watching some of TAR12 today and realized how hot Rachel is lol
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 08:08:24 PM
more ...

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
Yup!

(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/37446/2006186500195370759_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006186500195370759)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 08:12:42 PM
looks like one to me puddin!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 17, 2008, 08:17:32 PM
Puddin

With the extended days in Alaska, even in such a southern area as Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula you are going to have long days with a lot of Sun.  WIth nearly 17 and a half hours of sunlight.

As for Homer, while its fairly picturesque as far as fishing towns go.  Its the furthest both in mileage and time to drive from Anchorage.

As a native of Kenai, I would love to see them go further on the Peninsula, but I don't see it.  As for Seward, it is just a very ugly town, so I would hope they don't go there.

Staying north of Anchorage or near cook inlet really has some beautiful natural scenery.  Even driving down as far as Skilak lake is quite beautiful at this time of the year.

Though with the large influx of people due to tourism, and the fishing industry can at times make car travel slow going as most of the roads fluctuate between one and two lanes.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 08:21:23 PM
Puddin

With the extended days in Alaska, even in such a southern area as Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula you are going to have long days with a lot of Sun.  WIth nearly 17 and a half hours of sunlight.

As for Homer, while its fairly picturesque as far as fishing towns go.  Its the furthest both in mileage and time to drive from Anchorage.

As a native of Kenai, I would love to see them go further on the Peninsula, but I don't see it.  As for Seward, it is just a very ugly town, so I would hope they don't go there.

Staying north of Anchorage or near cook inlet really has some beautiful natural scenery.  Even driving down as far as Skilak lake is quite beautiful at this time of the year.

Though with the large influx of people due to tourism, and the fishing industry can at times make car travel slow going as most of the roads fluctuate between one and two lanes.
See this is why we need your insight mswood, it might as well be Timbuktu, for me anyway. What I'm looking for is where fishing ports are popular *sigh* and have been up and down Cook inlet  :duno:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 17, 2008, 08:38:54 PM
I think I've figured this out. The final task is to put the donkey and other items seen on the race and identify which country on the globe they're from.

We don't have an official speed bump. The teams are asked in which country the speed bumps and U-turns were used.

I think the picture of Christina standing at the U-turn is watching Ron trying to figure out where he saw it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 08:43:04 PM
Good Job Puddin!


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 17, 2008, 08:57:39 PM
Puddin

With the extended days in Alaska, even in such a southern area as Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula you are going to have long days with a lot of Sun.  WIth nearly 17 and a half hours of sunlight.

As for Homer, while its fairly picturesque as far as fishing towns go.  Its the furthest both in mileage and time to drive from Anchorage.

As a native of Kenai, I would love to see them go further on the Peninsula, but I don't see it.  As for Seward, it is just a very ugly town, so I would hope they don't go there.

Staying north of Anchorage or near cook inlet really has some beautiful natural scenery.  Even driving down as far as Skilak lake is quite beautiful at this time of the year.

Though with the large influx of people due to tourism, and the fishing industry can at times make car travel slow going as most of the roads fluctuate between one and two lanes.
See this is why we need your insight mswood, it might as well be Timbuktu, for me anyway. What I'm looking for is where fishing ports are popular *sigh* and have been up and down Cook inlet  :duno:
Because they are all over   :lol3: :lol3:  From canneries, and fish farms, to fishing docks of small, to very large commercial areas.  Hell they could even be at a University or college fishing area. 

I can eliminate Kenai, north Kenai or Soldotna from the lists of places to look.  It doesn't seem to fit the area or beach type that they have.

I am less familiar with Seward (because Seward sucks, I mean really.  Alaska's beautiful but its towns can be quite ugly, but Seward is really ugly).  There is Whittier, though teams would have to travel by train or plane to get their.  But the train is e close to Alyeska.  I mean really close, you just drive til you reach the portage Glacier turnoff and the train depot is right there.  Its a very small town, and thus less chance of being noticed.  And its got a lot of boating.  Hell there are just so many small paces with lots of boats that teams could travel too.  I wouldn't have a clue without more footage.  I mean hell I could tell you everywhere they were for the sequestered teams right off the footage, because those are so specific.


Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 17, 2008, 09:01:19 PM
These look like they may be in the same area.  The fence poles look similar.  There is also two taxi's in the background.  One directly behind them and one off to the far right.  It's hard to tell if there is another one nearby or not.  However, where are they?  It almost looks like a junkyard.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/2003757484639715909_rs.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/2003712404000893883_rs.jpg)



What is Rachel carrying?  Is it part of this task?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/2001414821479663276_rs.jpg)



Is Nick standing at a Podium?  Or is that fabric on the wall behind him?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/2003791245981255661_rs.jpg)




Also, I have to say this is one elaborate set up for a Roadblock if there are indeed individual stations for each country they visited or maybe there are individual stations for each racer where they have their own area to put things in order.    I'd say the latter.  

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 09:03:15 PM
it looks like he might be carrying a box?
god I'm excited for sunday night -- it's been SO long since we had a finale where we didn't have an idea who would win.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 17, 2008, 09:06:31 PM
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However, where are they?
Until something better comes along, I'll stick with 39-S.
As far as the U-turn box goes, maybe instead of something to do it's just another piece of the puzzle, like the donkey.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 17, 2008, 09:12:35 PM
Stick with?

I missed that, where is it!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 17, 2008, 09:15:28 PM
That looks good to me! :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 17, 2008, 09:19:58 PM
Here (http://www.dec.state.ak.us/spar/perp/cookinletpor/cipporMap01.pdf). The south-facing shorelines have mud flats that are too large. I haven't found any matching photo yet, but if it's not the Cook Inlet Tug & Barge Pier (39-S), then it's something similar.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 17, 2008, 09:39:42 PM
One thing we haven't discussed:

We know that after the ice climb teams are flown by helicopter off the glacier.

Where?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 09:47:41 PM
One thing we haven't discussed:

We know that after the ice climb teams are flown by helicopter off the glacier.

Where?
Thanks to the info from Colby & peach Alpine Air Alaska provides the helicopters, they probably take them back to the Glacier Jets Alaska, docks?
http://www.alpineairalaska.com/
http://www.glacierjetalaska.com/

eta:

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 10:30:50 PM
It really does look like a junkyard .. (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/FACE/stateface/ak/98ak021.html)


(http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/41269/2003739300834491575_rs.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 10:31:47 PM
could be puttin that could be the site of the detour with crabs?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
could be puttin that could be the site of the detour with crabs?
:spsign

Crab shacks! lol
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 17, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
lmfao wtf is puttin  :groan: :lol3:

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: SingularStars on January 17, 2008, 10:47:18 PM
I can't wait for this episode on Sunday. I've been swamped in so much hmwk this week that The Amazing Race is really my escape. Ha.

I wonder what they could do with the donkey, but that task with all the miscellaneous (sp?) things looks cool!

Can't wait. Ron and Chris FTW.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 17, 2008, 10:57:22 PM
Puddin

With the extended days in Alaska, even in such a southern area as Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula you are going to have long days with a lot of Sun.  WIth nearly 17 and a half hours of sunlight.

As for Homer, while its fairly picturesque as far as fishing towns go.  Its the furthest both in mileage and time to drive from Anchorage.

As a native of Kenai, I would love to see them go further on the Peninsula, but I don't see it.  As for Seward, it is just a very ugly town, so I would hope they don't go there.



Staying north of Anchorage or near cook inlet really has some beautiful natural scenery.  Even driving down as far as Skilak lake is quite beautiful at this time of the year.

Though with the large influx of people due to tourism, and the fishing industry can at times make car travel slow going as most of the roads fluctuate between one and two lanes.

mswood, since you were a native of the area, you will appreciate these land distances:

Anchorage to Seward 140 miles
Anchorage to Kenai 160 miles
Anchorage to Homer 228 miles

None of these 3 places will be involved in AR12 as a result due to excessive distance. The water scenes will have to be with boats north of Anchorage, out of Anchorage, or out of Whittier.
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 17, 2008, 11:16:26 PM
I almost lost my mind when I read Whittier, just b/c it's a city in Southern California. It's hard to comprehend that there cities of the same name in different states.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 17, 2008, 11:21:37 PM
Then you find the fish & crab places apskip, I gave it a shot so good luck to you   :jam:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 17, 2008, 11:31:26 PM
Nice everybody! Any chance we can find a crab place ON Slowhatch's docks? I don't think they go very far either..I'm thinking right in or around Anchorage...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 18, 2008, 12:06:01 AM
Dunno if this helps, perhaps not. I found this while Googling pools of words ranging from "Fisheries near Anchorage" to "Fish cutting crab pinching"

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
One more thing , just to confirm.

The Finish Line - Girdwood, Alaska   

http://www.myspace.com/vyxsin   
Nice everybody! Any chance we can find a crab place ON Slowhatch's docks? I don't think they go very far either..I'm thinking right in or around Anchorage...
I "think" its a dockyard.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 18, 2008, 12:28:58 AM
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The Finish Line - Girdwood, Alaska


 :yess:  Thanks Kynt and Vixen!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 18, 2008, 12:55:04 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0000.jpg) Flickr caption (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9236428@N07/968498070/):
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Taken at one of the many roadside pull offs on the Seward Highway (near Girdwood).

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 01:22:12 AM
I'm telling you I really think its the golf course!

So Slowhatch ------- not that I didn't think it was right  :yess:
some things that match plus many more now that I see them together.

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 01:48:37 AM
.. or maybe not a golf course. I wish we could get a better GE image of Girdwood  :pull
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: marigold on January 18, 2008, 01:53:16 AM
.. or maybe not a golf course. I wish we could get a better GE image of Girdwood  :pull

there's lots in photobucket :duno: just trying to help
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: schwarzmoor on January 18, 2008, 02:24:39 AM
It really does look like a junkyard .. (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/FACE/stateface/ak/98ak021.html)


(http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/41269/2003739300834491575_rs.jpg)

It's from the roadblock at ep4. :js:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 02:26:06 AM
Thanks ca bb there are some good ones there :thankyou:.

On apskips say so , a few Whittier Harbor, AK cleaning stations  (http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/statewide/accessprogram/Programpage.cfm?type=1&region=2&projectid=16), I can't get a match.

Also some Girdwood forest Fair pictures here   (http://www.alaskastock.com/resultsframe.asp), over all not a bad site for Alaska pictures.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 02:29:37 AM
Quote from:  link=topic=14244.msg248803#msg248803 date=1200644679
It really does look like a junkyard .. (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/FACE/stateface/ak/98ak021.html)


 

It's from the roadblock at ep4. :js:
Sneaky bastards!! GOOD eye schwarzmoor  :jumpy: *did not mean to call BF a junk yard  :angel: *
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 02:56:36 AM
This shot was taken here (thanks to Puddin and Slowhatch) between 10:00 and 10:09 am (assumes July 29th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0027.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 03:03:45 AM
Also, this boat looks like it is parked at that dock based on the the angle of sunshine coming in.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0003.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 18, 2008, 09:39:57 AM
Based on the promos I saw last night, which were pretty clear when seen live, it looks like the ROADBLOCK or FINAL TASK takes place in an area that is divided into perhaps four areas by wooden fences.  Each area is dominated by a globe face: Africa and Europe for Rachel; North and South America for Nick.  In the background there seem to be objects associated with episodes in those areas: In Rachel's shot there seem to be a mule,(ep 1) UTurn sign,(ep 4) and a small boat (ep 6)all of which could be associated with Ireland, Amsterdam, Burkino Fasi, Lithuania, and Croatia.  So is the final task some kind of memory test?

In one of the promos there is a scene of an excited Ron and Chris jumping with joy.  But look again this is a pickup from a previous ep (Chris is wearing a pink tank top).  So could it be that the editors are playing games and the shot of Rachel holding the ROADBLOCK clue with a soulful face might be a pickup from a previous ep?  TK did the roadblocks in eps 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8.  So could this be Rachel watching in one of these? perhaps ep 3 when TK is milking the camel?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sharkshooter on January 18, 2008, 10:04:19 AM
 :ot:

 :'(  I'm going to miss the final episode!  :'( 

I will be travelling and not likely arrive at my hotel until near 9:00pm ET.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gator27 on January 18, 2008, 10:45:35 AM
Now it looks like a globe Michael  :tup:
(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/41326/2003777538073250883_rs.jpg)
 (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003777538073250883)(http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/39431/2001414821479663276_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001414821479663276) (http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/42276/2003742825326581867_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003742825326581867)


Looking at these pictures I am convinced that CBS added the globe to the picture.  Earlier in the thread we were looking for the location of a barrel-like thing on a fence.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 11:07:58 AM
Well yeah I don't think they came with the place gator and for all we know TPTB added the fence as well.
And ..thanks Chateau!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gator27 on January 18, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Well yeah I don't think they came with the place gator and for all we know TPTB added the fence as well.
And ..thanks Chateau!

I just wanted to make sure someone wasn't looking for a fence with a barrel, now globe, in it. (People who post on this site are smarter than that)

Interesting how we are on page 15 on this thread, an know a lot, but still know very little.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 11:35:43 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0000.jpg) Flickr caption (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9236428@N07/968498070/):
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Taken at one of the many roadside pull offs on the Seward Highway (near Girdwood).

I have no doubt that Slowhatch's picture is the exact place.  But I can't get GE to make the matching view.  Probably because I can't find the exact place   :'(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gator27 on January 18, 2008, 11:48:30 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0000.jpg) Flickr caption (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9236428@N07/968498070/):
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Taken at one of the many roadside pull offs on the Seward Highway (near Girdwood).

I have no doubt that Slowhatch's picture is the exact place.  But I can't get GE to make the matching view.  Probably because I can't find the exact place   :'(

If I remember correctly, this is a golf course.  Can we use the golf course map (showing bunkers, greens and fairways) to find the hole number and then try to match with GE?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 11:52:18 AM
Here it is!!!   :jam:

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 11:53:40 AM
This picture was taken here.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/EP11/13Jan0000.jpg)


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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 11:57:22 AM
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If I remember correctly, this is a golf course.  Can we use the golf course map (showing bunkers, greens and fairways) to find the hole number and then try to match with GE?

It's about 5 miles west of Girdwood

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 12:00:51 PM
On the other hand it is so pretty that it may just be a scenery shot and not our Pit Stop!

From the same area:   Panoramio source (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1561313)




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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2008, 12:41:09 PM
great sleuthing guys so the finish line is five miles west of the center of Girdwood
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sk8ter23 on January 18, 2008, 01:43:38 PM
could you resize to big pic? if anyone can see that letter on wall where they are at!??

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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 18, 2008, 02:00:02 PM
Now it looks like a globe Michael  :tup:
(http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/41326/2003777538073250883_rs.jpg)
 (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003777538073250883)(http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/39431/2001414821479663276_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001414821479663276) (http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/42276/2003742825326581867_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003742825326581867)



Looking at these pictures I am convinced that CBS added the globe to the picture.  Earlier in the thread we were looking for the location of a barrel-like thing on a fence.

It does look like the fence was built for TAR and objects relating to different locations assembled there.  The globes may be added or fixed in different location.  They show a eastern hemisphere for Rachel and a western hemisphere for Nick.

TPTB and the promo editors have been adding shots from many of the previous shows: Don and Nick at the airport (aer lingus from ep 2.)  Ron and Chris jumping for joy (first on the mat in Croatia ep 6)  So the puzzling shot of Rachel with the roadblock clue and a different top may also be from a previous ep; however, ep 11 does seem to be the first time she has been wearing a brown band in her hair so perhaps it is current, but how it fits is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 18, 2008, 02:13:04 PM
Something like this ..and will update if we get more clues.


Clues~


DON/NICOLAS, TK/RACHEL AND RON/CHRISTINA HAVE ONE FINAL LEG FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE


The Remaining Three Teams Compete in the Final Leg During the Season Finale

*The last three Teams set off on their final leg,
*as one Team that typically works well together experiences their first clash,
*and another Team misreads a vital clue that threatens their position
*In a final Amazing Race leg unlike any homestretch before it, the Racers are surprised to learn upon checkout that their next flight is their last for the entire race: the entire leg, all the way through the finish line, will play out in the city, the wilderness, by the ocean, on glaciers, and in the national parks of Alaska.
*One often combative Team comes together, while one usually cohesive Team clashes.
*One Team misreads a vital clue. Will this lead to the Team's downfall?
*After 10 cities, 4 continents, and nearly 30,000 miles, who will cross the finish line first and win the one million dollar prize?


Teams leaving the C.S.K. Memorial Hall pitstop in Taipei, Taiwan--all teams should be on the same flight
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7373/15jan0003rt7.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003rt7.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2516/15jan0029kn0.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0029kn0.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/408/15jan0062qn3.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0062qn3.jpg)



We think one of the first tasks of the day might be to retrieve a clue at the Anchorage Docks, Slowhatch provides a link here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.msg248435.html#msg248435)
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9366/15jan0015cb8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0015cb8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8600/15jan0014hc4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0014hc4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8702/15jan0019ka4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0019ka4.jpg)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2907/15jan0020du1.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0020du1.jpg)

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   TASK 
Thanks to CBS we now know that the Ice Climb is something all teams must do and thanks to Chateau we know it is early on:
teams travel via Jet Boat to 20-mile Glacier where they will ice-climb the glacier wall to a waiting helicopter  
But we already knew that thanks Colby & peach (see first post of this thread for a summary (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.0.html))

Chateau d if: This shot was taken here (thanks to Peach) between 8:50 and 9:30 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4771/17jan0004cr4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0004cr4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7620/17jan0005tj4.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0005tj4.jpg)(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6743/17jan0006lg5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0006lg5.jpg) Editing would make it seem that Ron & Chris are first to this task

 (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3782/17jan0007wg9.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0007wg9.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9559/15jan0010dj8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010dj8.jpg) Followed by Rachel & TK

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5855/17jan0008rt5.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jan0008rt5.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/144/15jan0022rt5.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0022rt5.jpg) Ron & Nick


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Detour
Thanks to CBS we know this is one of the Detour choices :
Detour in which teams must descend into the hull of a crab boat and search among 500 crabs for one of twenty with a Race-colored target on its underbelly in order to receive their next clue  

Chateau d if: This shot was taken between 9:00 and 9:33 am (assumes July 29th).
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4393/15jan0004bk8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0004bk8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2272/15jan0000hq4.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0000hq4.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5084/15jan0001al8.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0001al8.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8281/15jan0002wc7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0002wc7.jpg)

:bar:
Fish cleaning, Roadblock #1? or Detour choice? Much debate about this..  

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8379/15jan0010ug7.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0010ug7.jpg)(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5602/14jan0000du1.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14jan0000du1.jpg) It appears that Chris is holding the red roadblock clue and she is telling Ron "you can do this"

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Roadblock #2? Before the finish line? Puzzle? No matter we know this is a Roadblock

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4969/15jan0031ui6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0031ui6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7537/15jan0032em8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0032em8.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3751/15jan0034qb7.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0034qb7.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1773/15jan0040mw9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0040mw9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9645/15jan0073xp0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0073xp0.jpg) Nick

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9457/15jan0039qc6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0039qc6.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5162/15jan0047lr5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0047lr5.jpg) Rachel


(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7882/15jan0027zj3.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0027zj3.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/293/15jan0041jg2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0041jg2.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/940/15jan0042jy5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0042jy5.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1874/15jan0075xs5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0075xs5.jpg) Chris

  (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4982/15jan0011dz1.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0011dz1.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3622/15jan0012ra2.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0012ra2.jpg)  Ron/ TK/ Don watch , Ron yells "the stress is ON!"
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Misc~  
Chateau d if:   1:32 to 2:40 pm  ( Rachel & TK taxi )

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1337/15jan0013fz1.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0013fz1.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/540/15jan0025es9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0025es9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4627/15jan0013is5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0013is5.jpg)

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3560/15jan0003xo8.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0003xo8.jpg) Don comes down on Nick for mis-reading a clue


running running -------- from to where to where is the question

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3786/15jan0016ak5.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0016ak5.jpg)
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3789/15jan0017jd0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0017jd0.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8327/15jan0019ev0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0019ev0.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6896/15jan0021ji4.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0021ji4.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9118/15jan0028xg9.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0028xg9.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8879/15jan0060nu0.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jan0060nu0.jpg)



The first three pictures are pickups from previous shows: R/C Ep 4; TK/R ?; D/N ep 2

The last shot of Ron/Chris is of them walking on the walkway whatever in Anchorage.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 02:19:29 PM
Nick and Don's are an old shot Gman but TK/Rachel & Chirs/Ron have the CKS Memorial Hall behind them so those pairs are leaving the last pitstop.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 18, 2008, 02:27:12 PM
Right you are, I was just coming back to correct it.

But there are scenes with Nick and the Round maybe globe and you can see it exists and has not been added to the scene by the editors.  To me it looks like the props are associated with the areas and you have to match which goes where.  Or, and this is a take off on the old find the errors in the picture, find the objects that don't belong in eps from that area.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: colav10 on January 18, 2008, 02:39:48 PM
I have a possible scenerio:

The detour comes first and then teams arrive at the roadblock (possibily near the finish line). Either Rachel/TK or Nick/Don finish first and uTurn Ron/Christina. Then Ron/Christina have to go back to the detour and complete the option they haven't already done (this would explain why Christina is still holding the roadblock clue when Ron is working on the fish).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2008, 04:04:55 PM
We think that the U-Turn box is more assoc with the memory task and may well not be an actual U-Turn colav10...

And the Anchorage Golf course is about 30 miles from the Ayleska Resort and so may not be this one...But great job Chateau!! :hearts: At least we know where it is--even if we don't know WHAT it is...  I feel SO much better!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 04:37:18 PM
We think that the U-Turn box is more assoc with the memory task and may well not be an actual U-Turn colav10...

And the Anchorage Golf course is about 30 miles from the Ayleska Resort and so may not be this one...But great job Chateau!! :hearts: At least we know where it is--even if we don't know WHAT it is...  I feel SO much better!  :lol:
I saw how far the golf course was last night and was like "damn!"


Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2008, 04:50:36 PM
But the ski slopes are much closer--and I still REALLY like Colby's road match! I think it is near where they have the fair...

Chateau --I did post the road marker for that fair..maybe that would help? I'll have to find it though...and will stick it here.

Here you go: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.msg248379.html#msg248379
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 18, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
I know where this clip was taken.  It is East 5th Ave and they are headed to the dock that Slowhatch found.

The reason I know this is because elsewhere in the clip, just before the van, you can see a big Toyota car dealership go by.

That is Nye Frontier Toyota (http://www.nyefrontiertoyota.com/) at 731 East 5th Ave.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14244.0;attach=45948;image)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
But the ski slopes are much closer--and I still REALLY like Colby's road match! I think it is near where they have the fair...

Chateau --I did post the road marker for that fair..maybe that would help? I'll have to find it though...and will stick it here.

Here you go: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14244.msg248379.html#msg248379
But the fair is foresty, not green.

anyway pulling these out of the mishmash thread...
Alpine Air Alaska, Inc   (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS207US208&q=Girdwood,+AK+99587+loc:+Girdwood,+AK&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl)

The first 2 our from our picture source (person blacked out by me) and the last one is from Alpine Air...


(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44641;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44642;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44640;image)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 18, 2008, 05:47:13 PM

Did we know this already?

The fairgrounds are located at Mile 2.2 on the Alyeska Highway in the community park area.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Mister RC on January 18, 2008, 06:12:33 PM
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We think that the U-Turn box is more assoc with the memory task and may well not be an actual U-Turn colav10...

I hope so.  A U-Turn in the final leg would be all sort of wrong, especially after the effort to have the tasks post final flight instead of pre-final flight!

BTW, HBD, puddin!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Oliver on January 18, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Happy Birthday Puddin.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 18, 2008, 10:56:29 PM
TWO DAYS!
 :jumpy:
I'm so excited
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 10:59:22 PM
TWO DAYS!
 :jumpy:
I'm so excited
Thanks for the B-Day wish's :thankyou:

I'm not excited Michael, I'm going to miss it and I'll be stuck in the BB house and and  WAHHHHHHHHHH   :pull  (:;)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sk8ter23 on January 18, 2008, 11:00:00 PM
cant believe that no one knows who the winner?? the spoliers got wrong!! :groan:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 18, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
why are you going to miss it puddin?!
and screw the BB house!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 11:02:55 PM
why are you going to miss it puddin?!
and screw the BB house!
No not miss it as in not seeing the finale, miss it like I want more, lol.

cant believe that no one knows who the winner?? the spoliers got wrong!! :groan:
A spoiler isn't a spoiler until it happens and it didn't happen so its no longer a spoiler  :neener:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 18, 2008, 11:04:05 PM
oh ok good puddin!! I thought with everybody else at TARcon i wouldn't have anybody to talk to about the episode!

Don't worry though - TAR will be back before we know it and soon we can look forward to spoilers!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2008, 11:18:06 PM
TWO DAYS!
 :jumpy:
I'm so excited
Thanks for the B-Day wish's :thankyou:

I'm not excited Michael, I'm going to miss it and I'll be stuck in the BB house and and  WAHHHHHHHHHH   :pull  (:;)
Yeah, BB is not fun. Showtime After Dark is like being in the library after watching TAR.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 11:25:10 PM
The final push  :poop  :keeta:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 18, 2008, 11:26:29 PM
The final push  :poop  :keeta:

what finding everything we possibly can already brings the conversation to.  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2008, 11:30:48 PM
I'm still flying around Girdwood but my arms are getting tired  }^{ :hyper:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 18, 2008, 11:32:30 PM
well there is a certain something you could PM me tomorrow before 4 PM ET if you are bored and want to help me out ;)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: serendipity on January 19, 2008, 03:58:59 AM
Is it confirmed that the shot showing Ron/Chris running and Nic/Don with backpack is the location of the final mat?

I think it probably is and the reason why Chris and Rachel wear jackets when doing roadblcok is because that area is not the same place as the final mat, maybe they have to do the roadblock in some place and get the next clue to the finish line, so on the cab ride they take off their jackets.

And it is clear that the shot with Don, Ron and TK together is when they all wait for their teams to finish the roadblock, so you can tell that they are all there around the same time.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 19, 2008, 09:46:46 AM
more ...

 




(http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38778/2003741790283680738_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003741790283680738)

This shot bothers me.  Rachel is holding a red-banded card with the last three letters: O A D.   We have been assuming that this is a ROADBLOCK card.  But it is different from other Roadblock cards we have seen with the word ROADBLOCK with various symbols across the entrie card.  This looks different and it looks like one word ending in O A D  is on the top.  Could this be some other word than "ROAD"?  It looks like the letters O A D take up half of the top of the folded card.  A six letter word enging in O A D?  If this is not the ROADBLOCK clue card, what is it?

Some possibilities:  CROSSROAD (a new twist?); UNLOAD; OFFLOAD
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: cinni on January 19, 2008, 10:21:09 AM
that one's been bugging me too. what about reload?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 19, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
that one's been bugging me too. what about reload?

That's a good one.  A new task: "RELOAD" as in remembering facts.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 19, 2008, 10:47:49 AM
Even if Nate & Jenn were in the final 3 they would not win.

Here is why:  I'm guessing, but it looks like in that mystery task the teams have to gather various items that they will recognize from the race.  Maybe they have to  put them below the globe disk that matches in which hemisphere they encountered that item.

So, for Nate & Jenn:  The Donkey !!!   No way.  It's not going anywhere!   :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 19, 2008, 10:49:20 AM
And there will be a pretty girl going:

I'm sorry that is not correct.

I'm sorry that is not correct.

I'm sorry that is not correct.

I'm sorry that is not correct.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: colav10 on January 19, 2008, 10:53:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that what Rachel is holding is part of the inside portion of the roadblock clue. T A R F L I E S has a sample of the inside of the clue looks like and one side has just the word ROAD at the top. See:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/colav10/stdv_rblock2.jpg?t=1200761757)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: colav10 on January 19, 2008, 10:56:25 AM
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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 19, 2008, 12:54:33 PM
OK, puddin, I have finally had the time to do the research needed on Whittier and Anchorage and a place called Wasilla and Palmer and Eagle River and Big Lake and Willow. All these towns (except Anchoreage, which is clearly a city) turned up on my search for "Fishing Boats". I had to sift through 45 results from Anchorage, 17 from Wasilla, and 1 to 3 from everywhere else. The final product of all that is 3 websites that are these:

www.fishwhittier.com
www.glacierwolf.com
www.deweysmarine.com

Please check these out against your criteria.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Zack. on January 19, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
Where is the text on the clue? If it were the inside cover, there would still be some writing on it (be it general instructions or specific instructions), but on that clue, at least half (horizontally) is empty. The clue-holder is solid-red, so it couldn't be that.  :duno:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: teufel on January 19, 2008, 01:12:36 PM
Where is the text on the clue? If it were the inside cover, there would still be some writing on it (be it general instructions or specific instructions), but on that clue, at least half (horizontally) is empty. The clue-holder is solid-red, so it couldn't be that.  :duno:
Give it up...it's a roadblock clue.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 19, 2008, 01:27:35 PM
is it sad that I got a job today and when they asked me when I could start I told them anytime after tomorrow because I was afraid they would make me come in and miss the finale :(  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 19, 2008, 01:52:20 PM
is it sad that I got a job today and when they asked me when I could start I told them anytime after tomorrow because I was afraid they would make me come in and miss the finale :(  :lol3:
:jam:

Thats it can we adopt him.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Belle Book on January 19, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
I'm really looking forward to the finale.  With three teams in the final leg that I like, this'll be one of my top three Amazing Race editions!  Although I'm rooting for Ronald & Christina, I think I'll be happy with any one of the three teams winning.  Is it Sunday yet?

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 19, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
I'm pretty sure that what Rachel is holding is part of the inside portion of the roadblock clue. T A R F L I E S has a sample of the inside of the clue looks like and one side has just the word ROAD at the top. See:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/colav10/stdv_rblock2.jpg?t=1200761757)

That's good for a laugh, but it does not match any ROADBLOCK clue I have seen during 12TARs
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 19, 2008, 04:15:16 PM
Even if Nate & Jenn were in the final 3 they would not win.

Here is why:  I'm guessing, but it looks like in that mystery task the teams have to gather various items that they will recognize from the race.  Maybe they have to  put them below the globe disk that matches in which hemisphere they encountered that item.

So, for Nate & Jenn:  The Donkey !!!   No way.  It's not going anywhere!   :lol3:

That seems to be the task.  In the shot of Rachel with the Eastern Hemisphere globe you can see items found in Europe: donkey, boat and Africa: UTurn for example
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 19, 2008, 05:16:38 PM
This is what the initial clue looks like --
(http://i7.[banned image hosting site].com/8fvlz6c.jpg)
 (http://i16.[banned image hosting site].com/8bsgwus.jpg)

 once the team decides who will do the challenge, they open the clue and--
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/colav10/stdv_rblock2.jpg?t=1200761757)
 

 
 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 19, 2008, 05:26:45 PM
I hate that "you must pretend to throw up". 

Is that thing real?  Who put that up?  Or was it a TARflies joke?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: SingularStars on January 19, 2008, 05:46:18 PM
I hope to god it's fake.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 19, 2008, 05:56:34 PM
I'm sure its fake, lol
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 20, 2008, 12:47:14 AM
Ah...I have been studying/cramming for finals this week, so I haven't had time to do much. Anyway, I read about the Road Block thing, and I found this on YouTube. It's from the Taiwan leg, where Ronald did the Acrobatics Jeep task.



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Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 12:58:50 AM
Yeah its says " who's ready to go for a tricky ride?"
Then they decide who's going to do the RB, but don't know what the task is, then when they decide they open the clue and it tells them what the task is. How many times do we see & hear this? Like when Christina said she'd do the Taxi/Roadblock in Osaka, she didn't know it would involve driving until they opened the rest of the clue and thats just one example off the top of my head  :umn: .
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 20, 2008, 01:07:08 AM
I'm glad Monday's a holiday, that way I get to get all hyped up for this episode and spend Monday cramming....
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 20, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
Even if Nate & Jenn were in the final 3 they would not win.

Here is why:  I'm guessing, but it looks like in that mystery task the teams have to gather various items that they will recognize from the race.  Maybe they have to  put them below the globe disk that matches in which hemisphere they encountered that item.

So, for Nate & Jenn:  The Donkey !!!   No way.  It's not going anywhere!   :lol3:

In a new promo last night you can make out the background behind Rachel much better (no yellow overtint) and the objects by the wall include the donkey (ep 1 Ireland); a vase with tulips (ep 2 Holland); picture card (ep 3 Bingo): UTurn sign (ep 4 Barkina Faso); a row boat (ep 6 Croatia).  some other object but can't make them out.  Maybe they have to assemble them in chronicalogical order like the flags at the end of TAR9?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 12:58:36 PM
Thats most likely the scenario Gman. You got all that off of one commercial!? Wow even in slo-mo I didn't catch all that  :jam:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 20, 2008, 01:18:58 PM
Thats most likely the scenario Gman. You got all that off of one commercial!? Wow even in slo-mo I didn't catch all that  :jam:

Freeze frame!  Like the weather!

Enjoy tonight :kuss:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 01:24:29 PM
Well I didn't see the commercial without the yellow tint, I forget what CBS was airing last night? all I know is I changed the channel Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: north09 on January 20, 2008, 02:05:47 PM
Good spoiling through the season guys! I can't wait for next season, hopefully I will do better with my picks - so close this time!! So puddin, you're b-day is comm,ing up?  :hbday: mines the 25th.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 02:18:34 PM
My B-Day is over *sigh I hate getting older  :pull * but thanks north and early Happy B-Day wishs to you  :kuss:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Belle Book on January 20, 2008, 03:14:06 PM
I am so excited!  I'm really looking forward to seeing the finale of The Amazing Race 12 and I'm hoping that my favorite team crosses the finish line first!  However even if Ron & Christina don't finish first, I'll be pretty happy with whoever wins, since after all, Nathan & Jennifer (aka the Bickersons) were Philiminated!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 20, 2008, 03:39:37 PM
I'm pretty excited too, but my excitement is now mixed with dread for having to work on Wednesday and Thursday 5-10 and I'm nervous  :'(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sk8ter23 on January 20, 2008, 04:21:22 PM
almost 3 hrs to go......... any new vid tonight?? no?   :js:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
almost 3 hrs to go......... any new vid tonight?? no?   :js:
:duno: Vids of what?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sk8ter23 on January 20, 2008, 05:01:40 PM
tar 12?  is there any new clip
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 20, 2008, 05:12:12 PM
if you are referring to web clips, mat chats, stuff like that then their might be, we aren't sure yet  :duno:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 05:30:59 PM
If you mean those sports inserts then the answer is no .. sort of odd they aren't advertising the crap out of this  (:;)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: north09 on January 20, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
Thanks puddin!

Well I was watching the patriots and I saw a couple commercials, but I don't think they were new. I think they were the same yellow-tinted one. They said that it would be a photo finish at the end though. They probably just say it to get attention, unless maybe R/C and N/D are close at the end. I would assume TK/R could beet both of them in a foot race.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 20, 2008, 07:49:48 PM
If it comes down to a footrace, my best guess is that TK/Rachel would win, b/c they are more physically fit. Ahh!!!2 more hours to go.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: scorpio88 on January 20, 2008, 07:51:56 PM
 :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: THIS SEASON RULES!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 07:58:58 PM
Finish line! The picture source was there the whole time!  :lol3:  :jam:



anyway pulling these out of the mishmash thread...
Alpine Air Alaska, Inc   (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS207US208&q=Girdwood,+AK+99587+loc:+Girdwood,+AK&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl)

The first 2 our from our picture source (person blacked out by me) and the last one is from Alpine Air...


(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44641;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44642;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44640;image)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: sk8ter23 on January 20, 2008, 08:05:05 PM
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/rbk3/scan0003.jpg)

look at that pic.... like olympic podium

oh well.... congrats tk and rachael..
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 20, 2008, 08:52:35 PM
The placemarks (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=103394380762462816691.000443dc753d3332c26bd&t=h&z=10&om=0) are up. The salmon change places every year, I based the mark on the 2007 map (http://www.wildsalmononparade.com/2007art/2007%20BROCHURE_38325%5B1%5D.pdf). And "Ship Creek boat launch" seems to be the local name for pier 39-S. We got most of it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 20, 2008, 08:57:39 PM
I want Chateau do do time on when Nic & Don arrive at Pit Stop.  I want to see if that error by Nic did in fact cost them a million, because that's got to hurt.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2008, 09:01:11 PM
The placemarks (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=103394380762462816691.000443dc753d3332c26bd&t=h&z=10&om=0) are up. The salmon change places every year, I based the mark on the 2007 map (http://www.wildsalmononparade.com/2007art/2007%20BROCHURE_38325%5B1%5D.pdf). And "Ship Creek boat launch" seems to be the local name for pier 39-S. We got most of it.
Wow your pretty fast for a Slowhatch  :lol:

 :jam: all that time your dock had a name Slowhatch  -- Cook Inlet Tug & Barge Pier

and then theres Goose Lake park  (:;)! I was looking all over Girdwood for a park or places for camping !
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 20, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
Without having watched the episode yet, just the plan of it makes this my official favorite final leg. 

Finally only one equalizer, and thats before all the tasks of the day.  I have been wishing for that since season 4.

Previously my favorite final leg (design) has been (Shocker) the Family Edition.  They got it right on that one (for the most part).
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 20, 2008, 10:02:49 PM
I want Chateau do do time on when Nic & Don arrive at Pit Stop.  I want to see if that error by Nic did in fact cost them a million, because that's got to hurt.

Answer - Not at all. I have imported my latest post from the Ep11 Finale commentary thread:

I decided to see as best I can how the need to return to 6th Avenue Outfitters impacted Donald and Nicholas. In the show it appears that this was a significant impact that may have cost them the race. I found the address for 6th Avenue Outfitters(520 W. 6th Ave., Anchorage) and approximated address along the north and south sides of Ship Creek near its end. The results are that the maximum would have been approximately 1 mile and maybe 3 minutes. This was a fairly minor penalty. It appeared that they lost by a whole lot more than 3 mintues.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
I'm trying to piece together the final roadblock. Here are the quotes from CBS:
Quote
Each Team was given fifteen recognizable items from different legs of the race. With stress and exhaustion at an all-time high, they had to place on a stage ten specific items that matched two different requirements. First, there could only be one item from each of the ten legs of the race. Second, only three items could be animals or animal by-products, one had to be a U-turn, two had to be items either at or brought to the Pit Stop, two had to be items of transportation with wheels, one of which was used at a Detour, and one had to be an item of transportation resembling the shape of a stick. While there were several ways to fulfill either of the requirements, only one correct group of ten items fulfilled both.
And the answer:
Quote
...the correct answers which were: the tandem bicycle from Ireland, the Detour bike from Amsterdam, the camel milk and chicken from Burkina Faso, the Detour stilts from Lithuania, the gun fired at the Pit Stop in Croatia, the Blackberry in Italy, the U-turn in India, the cleaning man in Japan, and the tea cups in Taiwan.
That would make the "extra" items:
Is that correct? Or does anyone have a different recollection?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 21, 2008, 10:49:24 AM
All this time the finish line was the Girdwood airport.   :groan:  Good job puddin!

That place they went to where the statue was.....in Resolution Park.....I can't tell you how many pictures I came across of that area!   :lol3:  I looked at that place from several angles. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
All this time the finish line was the Girdwood airport.   :groan:  Good job puddin!

That place they went to where the statue was.....in Resolution Park.....I can't tell you how many pictures I came across of that area!   :lol3:  I looked at that place from several angles. 
Same goes for the hooker fish Colby  :lol:, I was like GRRRRR!!!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 21, 2008, 11:11:20 AM
I'm trying to piece together the final roadblock. Here are the quotes from CBS:
Quote
Each Team was given fifteen recognizable items from different legs of the race. With stress and exhaustion at an all-time high, they had to place on a stage ten specific items that matched two different requirements. First, there could only be one item from each of the ten legs of the race. Second, only three items could be animals or animal by-products, one had to be a U-turn, two had to be items either at or brought to the Pit Stop, two had to be items of transportation with wheels, one of which was used at a Detour, and one had to be an item of transportation resembling the shape of a stick. While there were several ways to fulfill either of the requirements, only one correct group of ten items fulfilled both.
And the answer:
Quote
...the correct answers which were: the tandem bicycle from Ireland, the Detour bike from Amsterdam, the camel milk and chicken from Burkina Faso, the Detour stilts from Lithuania, the gun fired at the Pit Stop in Croatia, the Blackberry in Italy, the U-turn in India, the cleaning man in Japan, and the tea cups in Taiwan.
That would make the "extra" items:
  • donkey Ireland
  • vault pole Netherlands
  • row boat Croatia
  • gas cylinders India (does that include the cycle?)
  • flowers Japan
Is that correct? Or does anyone have a different recollection?

What was the third animal product: 1. Camel Milk, 2. Cleaning man, 3. ?????

Or was that chicken brooth in the tea cup which wasn't a tea cup but a soup bowl?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: thatsfunny on January 21, 2008, 11:20:05 AM
Wouldn't the third animal product be the chicken from Burkina Faso?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 21, 2008, 11:33:15 AM
Wouldn't the third animal product be the chicken from Burkina Faso?

The chicken (from BF) was one of the two items brought or found at the pit stop mat; the other was the old gun from Croatia.  And you could not include more than one item from each leg.,
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 21, 2008, 04:26:36 PM
It wasn't until after the show that I realized why that man was part of the Roadblock.  I kept wondering why he kept getting on the platform.  I thought maybe he was there to check what they were doing.  I had no idea at the time that he was supposed to be the "cleaning man in Japan".
 
:lol3: 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 21, 2008, 04:33:55 PM
"Are you an Animal?"

LOL  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 21, 2008, 05:59:37 PM
Quote
"Are you an Animal?"



yeah at the time I didn't understand why she kept asking him that.   :lol:   
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2008, 06:26:03 PM
I'll admit that I had no idea that the dude was part of the Roadblock and thought that he was the clue giver or something ..I think I'll it watch again  :lol: :waves:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: michael on January 21, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
LOL I was just watching it again and Rachel is so funny sometimes her mannerisms remind me of a 13 year old.. like in the end when she calls TK her "Favorite person!" it's so funny, I like her.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 21, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
"Are you an Animal?"
"No! I am a Human Being!"

That's an obscure reference.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 21, 2008, 07:55:43 PM
Rachel was pretty smart to think ahead about the final task and remembered other TARs which she had seen and realized it probably would be some kind or rememberance task.  She did the task in pretty short order and got most of it right on the first try.  TK has to be thankful for her, she saved their butts :yess:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 21, 2008, 07:58:32 PM
OK, Puddin, TAR 12 is down the tubes!  When are you going to set up threads for TAR13?   :duno: Heck they start shooting in three or four months.  Quote Phil from TES: "We're working on it" :tup:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2008, 08:16:16 PM
OK, Puddin, TAR 12 is down the tubes!  When are you going to set up threads for TAR13?   :duno: Heck they start shooting in three or four months.  Quote Phil from TES: "We're working on it" :tup:
You want me to archive all this stuff already? lol!  Gman I think we won't have to wait 3 or 4 months for TAR13 to shoot from what I've been reading :yess:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 21, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Yay we are starting TAR 13 Spoilers soon  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 21, 2008, 08:24:20 PM
I say leave this up for a week or so and then archive it. Lots of good stuff from Peach and Harley coming from TARCon, I'm quite sure of it.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2008, 09:24:28 PM
I can move the lucky 13 thread here?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 21, 2008, 09:26:56 PM
I can move the lucky 13 thread here?

yes mabey stickey it? and rename it tar13 rumors/spec??? once we get a grip on filming and stuff then do a spoiler thread?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2008, 09:29:46 PM
There's a lot of stupid stuff though like someone writing that they already filmed 13 and were in New Zealand or something like like  :res:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Kogs on January 21, 2008, 09:30:36 PM
There's a lot of stupid stuff though like someone writing that they already filmed 13 and were in New Zealand or something like like  :res:

ok rename it tar13 wishes or lock it up lol
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2008, 10:01:03 PM
Wait! No archiving yet please! I need to catch up! :lol:

And TAR 13 is still in the future so....
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 21, 2008, 10:15:40 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!  (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;)

My CBS affiliate went late with a Patriots pregame show thus extending the CBS lineup by 15 minutes. This means I don't have the ending of last night's show!!!!!! Why???? Why???? Jerks! Jackasses!!!!! I'm going to drive over to WPRI-TV in Providence and set their building on fire!!!!!!!  :groan: :groan: :groan: :pull :pull :pull :pull :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :meow: :meow: :meow:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Neobie on January 22, 2008, 01:23:21 AM
B:) Had 5 minutes or so to spare this afternoon, so I got to working out a non-trial-and-error method to solving the Roadblock puzzle, of course neglecting crazy stress, the rule about pencils and a bad memory...

The 15 items are:
Leg 1: Donkey, Tandem Bike
Leg 2: Pole Vault
Leg 3: Camel Milk
Leg 4: Chicken
Leg 5: Stilts
Leg 6: Rowboat, Musket
Leg 7: Blackberry
Leg 8: Propane Cart
Leg 9: Cleaning Man, Flowers
Leg 10: Teacup
Legs 4 and 8 each had a U-Turn. We'll assume we don't know where the bike (single-seater) belongs.

The rules are:
1 item from each leg,
1 U-Turn,
1 mode of transportation involving sticks,
2 items brought to or found at the Pit Stop,
2 modes of transportation with wheels, one of which was used at a Detour and
3 animals or animal by-products

1. The first thing to do, as each team did, is to put up the U-Turn.
2. Next are the legs that have no alternative option (Sudoku!): the Pole Vault, the Camel Milk, the Stilts, the Blackberry and the Teacup.
3. Hmm, we have both the pole vault and the stilts, but only one stick-transport is needed. That means the bicycle (which we left out of consideration earlier) would have to replace one of them. Now there was a bike in Leg 2 but not Leg 5, so the stilts (Leg 5) remain and the pole vault is replaced with the bicycle (Leg 2).

Current items: U-Turn (4 or 8 ), Bicycle (2), Camel Milk (3), Stilts (5), Blackberry (7), Teacup (10)

4. Only two Pit Stop items in the list, and that's the chicken (4) and the musket (6).
5. Since Leg 4 is filled up, the U-Turn belongs in Leg 8, eliminating the propane tank cart.
6. With the propane eliminated, there remain only two modes of transportation with wheels: the bicycle for Leg 2 we have already selected, along with the tandem bike for Leg 1.

Current items: Tandem bicycle (1), Bicycle (2), Camel Milk (3), Chicken (4), Stilts (5), Musket (6), Blackberry (7), U-Turn (8 ), Teacup (10)

7. Well, we do need three animals, so with the milk and the chicken, we do need the cleaning man (9), whether he is considered an animal or not, to fulfil the set.

Current items: Tandem bicycle (1), Bicycle (2), Camel Milk (3), Chicken (4), Stilts (5), Musket (6), Blackberry (7), U-Turn (8 ), Cleaning Man (9), Teacup (10)

Task complete!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 22, 2008, 07:52:55 AM
neobie, that is a brilliant analysis. For Rachel, Christina and Nicholas it would have been incredibly stressful and hard to keep the order of the logic clear. They would have tended to solve individual rules, but not look at the necessary order of the elimination or inclusion process. I am not surprised that it took them all well over one hour to solve.

My hats are off to Bertram van Munster and Elise Doganieri. This is what the Amazing Race promised with AR1, episode 1("The Smoke that Thunders") but seldom has been since. A difficult but relevant puzzle about the objects encountered in AR12 was a master stroke, equal to AR8's map challenge.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: gingerman28 on January 22, 2008, 08:45:55 AM
Good analysis :jumpy:

But lets keep one thing straight:  it is not a TEACUP, rather it is a Chinese SOUPBOWL.  Chris never called it a teacup when Ron and she arrived at the teahouse, she just said "its hot"

So in order to reach the THREE animals or animal products it must contain something like Chicken or Beef broth!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Zack. on January 22, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
Good analysis :jumpy:

But lets keep one thing straight:  it is not a TEACUP, rather it is a Chinese SOUPBOWL.  Chris never called it a teacup when Ron and she arrived at the teahouse, she just said "its hot"

So in order to reach the THREE animals or animal products it must contain something like Chicken or Beef broth!

Was there anything in the rules saying that one item couldn't satisfy multiple category requirements - if so then the chicken could be an animal in addition to a Pit Stop accessory (along with the cleaning man and camel milk). I think the tea was there to fill the every leg requirement, along with the Blackberry.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 22, 2008, 09:13:40 AM
That was the Best. Roadblock. Evah! And the very best last task to complete the race. When we saw this at Stitch on Sunday, everyone was commenting how the task was challenging and hard and would bunch the teams together. It served its purpose and also forced the teams to give really go back and think about their previous tasks and countries.

If you saw the webclips on CBS.com, you will have noticed Rachel jotting things into her notebook while drinking beer at the Taipei International Airport. And she had a feeling the last task would involve something similar to what we saw on Sunday. Her notes definitely helped her out. The moral of the story, always remember what you did because you may be asked at the end to recall your steps. Great stuff and it will be hard to equal this in future years.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: makz3d on January 22, 2008, 10:38:09 AM

Was there anything in the rules saying that one item couldn't satisfy multiple category requirements - if so then the chicken could be an animal in addition to a Pit Stop accessory (along with the cleaning man and camel milk). I think the tea was there to fill the every leg requirement, along with the Blackberry.


I'm pretty sure Phil said there was only 1 solution for the box to open.  Don't remember how he worded it but he said there were several combinations but only one was right.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2008, 07:50:32 PM
I'm home and just dropped my suitcase inside the door and watched the episode! I love TARcon but I didn't really have any idea about that last task until I saw it again just now!

Quick thoughts!

Girdwood Airport??!! And we had that all along??  :groan: :res: :groan:  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

I loved the final task too--that's the kind of thing that is relevant and challenging and fun! And I also liked that they were told to go to places by clues not addresses to make it even more interesting.  We've kind of had a Captain Cook thing going on since All-Stars--or even before??

TK did say that Rachel had kept a little journal during the race and they studied all the way from Taiwan  to Anchorage--he was so proud of her...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 23, 2008, 12:38:21 AM
Having been finally able to watch the final episode, that Roadblock was the Best Evah! Kudos to the Survivor task master (or whomever thought of it) to come up with one of the best challenges in TV history.

I noticed at China Airlines ticket counter in the Taoyuan International Airport, Rachel was scribbling notes in her journal. It was really brief, but her boning up on the tasks on the plane to Alaska helped her out. Christina wasn't too far behind, but she looked like she got flustered after a while.

This was definitely one of the best seasons of TAR and certainly showed that mactors aren't necessarily the best casting move. We had genuine people in the Final 3 and after meeting TK and Rachel at TARCon, I'm even more impressed by them.

I'm now going through TAR withdrawal. Thank goodness for TAR Asia, but even that will be ending soon.

apskip, do you want to watch "The Race" again?  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 23, 2008, 03:27:15 AM
apskip, do you want to watch "The Race" again?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

The producer guy has graduated, so there won't even be another season of that :(
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2008, 08:35:07 AM
Ken, not for a year or two. I've got most episodes of most Amazing Races still in my head plus I have all but one episode of them on VCR tape for whenever I want to see them again. I have seen AR1 through AR9 twice. AR12 ranks in my view below AR5, AR2, AR1, and AR7 in total excitement and above all of the rest.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
fwiw~

Local woman’s son pilots ‘Amazing Race’ contestants

Sommer Woodward
Staff Reporter

A Salina woman’s son, Danny Brewer, was the pilot of a helicopter on the final episode of ‘The Amazing Race’ on CBS Sunday.

Brewer’s mom, Shirley Shook, was excited to see her son on the national program Sunday.

Although flying float planes and helicopters is something Brewer does every day, flying one for a reality show is a first.

Brewer works for Alaska West Air, which contracts pilots for sporting groups, film crews and other events.

Brewer has piloted a helicopter for over 30 movies of extreme skiing. He flies camera crews to spots where skiers attempt a new descent for the first time.

For ‘The Amazing Race,’ Brewer was contracted to fly one of the teams from a glacier to Anchorage, Ala., for their next clue. This was the last leg of the race for $1 million. By this time, three teams remained in contention for the money.

Brewer didn’t know how ‘The Amazing Race’ worked until he flew the team off the glacier.

Brewer has been flying in Alaska since he was 15 and mostly pilots float planes and helicopters.

He and his wife, Kelly, have three children, Lauren, 23, Owen, 22 and Taylor, 18.

 link  (http://www.pryordailytimes.com/local/local_story_022095306.html)
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 23, 2008, 02:33:35 PM
I just received some intriguing "additional information" to my original Alaska spoiler that I was not privy to until today.  If you recall, my co-worker is the one that spilled the beans to me.  She got the info from her parents who had been on vacation in Alaska.  If you further recall, her parents clammed up in giving her more info after they found out that she was sharing the information with someone else (me).   :lol:  At any rate, I was just talking to said co-worker and I asked her if her parents had watched the final episode.  She said they did but they were confused by what they saw in regards to the Jet boats because it didn't match what was told to them by their jet boat driver.  Of course I poked and prodded and here is what she told me......

My co-worker's parent's  Jet boat driver was apparently the driver for the last team that arrived at the Twentymile river which we all know from the show was Nick and Don.  They said that their boat driver told them that even though he drove the last team to the glacier that he actually got to the glacier first before the other two teams.  They said that the boat driver said that the two other teams I guess took routes on the river with shallow water and got run aground.   They said that the boat driver even pointed out to them where the other teams got stuck and that he was quite proud that he took a better route than the other teams and beat them up the river.  

Obviously they were confused when the watched the show because Ron/Christina were shown arriving first followed by TK/Rachel and then Nick/Don. 

Now I'm confused.  If this is all true then the editors obviously edited the task out of sequence just to keep with the storyline.  In the end it doesn't matter who did that task first because the outcome is the same.  Or perhaps there was another task before they reached the glacier that we didn't see???  maybe?  BUT the Ron/Christina were clearly the first one's to the Roadblock so I would assume they had to have left on the helicopter first from the glacier.  hmmmm.......


Anyway, I just thought I'd share. 
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
Interesting Colby!

This sounds as though it could be a "production error" though--if the boat drivers ran them aground and it wasn't the teams fault then they may have been given some sort of an adjustment in placement and sent on from there..

Another Question to ask!
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2008, 04:08:08 PM
Why does this disturb me? *going back to Michael's happy place*  :colors

Thanks for sharing Colby  :js:
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 23, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
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This sounds as though it could be a "production error" though--if the boat drivers ran them aground and it wasn't the teams fault then they may have been given some sort of an adjustment in placement and sent on from there..

Wouldn't it be treated as let's say a taxi getting lost and a team overtakes another?

I'm confused too just trying to wrap my head around it.  I assume that before they took off on the jet boat that there was probably "prep time" before the boat took off so the teams could prepare and given safety instruction on the boat ride.  so there is some time for trailing teams to catch up.  Even if the stuck boats only took a couple of minutes to get "unstuck", at the glacier, did it not appear that teams were only be allowed to climb the glacier one team at a time?  I don't recall seeing two teams on the glacier at the same time.

Maybe I should just stop in trying to figure it out.   :lol:

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 24, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
It is not logical that the last place team to the boats would become the first time to arrive. those boats are regulated to take a standard course and use a standard speed. It is not logical that any boat could change position in route.
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
It is not logical that the last place team to the boats would become the first time to arrive. those boats are regulated to take a standard course and use a standard speed. It is not logical that any boat could change position in route.

Unless of course they became stuck on a sandbar...
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 24, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
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It is not logical that the last place team to the boats would become the first time to arrive. those boats are regulated to take a standard course and use a standard speed. It is not logical that any boat could change position in route.

I don't know much about the TwentyMile River area but from reading up at the website, it says there are narrow areas and they have to drive around logs and rocks and such.  Take a look at the website and the video and pictures on there.   http://alaska.org/glaciers/glacier-jet-alaska.jsp (http://alaska.org/glaciers/glacier-jet-alaska.jsp)

C'mon apskip.  A boat isn't going to take a straight course from point A to B unless of course it is traveling on some sort of fixed line beneath the water which isn't logical.  It's going to encounter obstacles on the way that may have them go left or right. 

I'm only reporting what I was told by the same source that gave us the location and task spoilers that turned out to be true.  This added information is what was told to them by the boat driver that was the source of this spoiler.  It doesn't make sense as to why he would lie to them.   

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: apskip on January 25, 2008, 07:50:49 AM
If that were so, Colby , then why were Nicholas and Donald still the last team to begin the ice climb and why was their boat shown in the episode arriving last?
Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 25, 2008, 12:29:01 PM
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If that were so, Colby , then why were Nicholas and Donald still the last team to begin the ice climb and why was their boar shown in the episode arriving last?

That's what I've been trying to figure out in my head.   Would you like me to go back in my time machine and find out?  How the hell am I supposed to know?  I wasn't there. 


Have you ever heard of editing apskip?  It's pretty standard in the movie business.  In the editing room, anything can be cut and edited to look a certain way.  We've seen in the past how tasks have been omitted and we were unaware and yet on the episode it all looks in sequence. 


Also, if this was considered production glitch and for whatever reason in the rule book they allowed Ron/Christina and TK/Rachel to get back into their #1 and #2 position (time credit),  that would mean they would hold the last team back from starting the climb and have Ron/Christina put back in front....film them arriving first, give them 5, 10, 15 minutes and then have the second team arrive and so on and so forth.  It's impossible for us not involved in the process to figure out.  Also, how do we know if perhaps there wasn't a task before the ice climb that we didn't see?  That could explain it as well.



Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: Chateau d If on January 25, 2008, 02:18:36 PM
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It's impossible for us not involved in the process to figure out. 

Oh ye of little faith!   ;)

Title: Re: EP 11: The Final Push
Post by: mswood on January 25, 2008, 03:27:01 PM
Teams don't get time credits for anything that isn't specifically the producers fault.

1.  When Tyler & James boat was driven with the anchor still down) allowing a team to pass them they received no credit.

2.  When cabs break down, run out of gas, get flats, over heats, ect teams don't get time credits.

3.  When planes have problems teams don't get time credits.

4.  When buses get in accidents, have flats teams don't get time credits.