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Title: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kogs on January 03, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
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  Taipei, Taiwan  Date July 27? 28?


 Lynn/Alex (http://laragmag.com/2007/08/14/amazing-race-12-is-at-the-starting-line-but-the-gun-wont-go-off/)  make an unsubstantiated claim ("we also heard from a little bird") about China, thanks to Slowhatch. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213671.html#msg213671)


Thank you to Newbie huholah   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640) 

*HEY I KNEW THEY WERE COMING TO TAIPEI: 
*My friend told me that he thinks he saw teams on the amazing race approaching Taipei 101. 
*So here it goes: around 26,27 of July as I remember- sorry I couldn’t remember the EXACT dates, he was shopping with his girlfriend in xin guang shan uiah beside Taipei 101. 
*When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. 
*He also saw 2 camera men running with them. 
*However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. 
*He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man.  He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit
*Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. 
*He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl
*He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener.  
*When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”. 
*At first, I thought this was amazing race asia because I didn’t expect amazing race 12 to contain another asian team ever since the cho’s.  Now after the official list of teams came out, I strongly believe my friend’s sightings because there were asian teams. 
*He only saw 2 teams each holding a blue form on their hands.  


*he thinks that Lorena and Jason were in but is not sure because he could only recognize the long hair
*He says that he is not at all confident with what he saw with the second team. 
*He jst notices a blond woman with a man(he didnt really see the man's face). 
*He was pretty sure it was friday that he saw them because he was only advailables on fridays to go out.

*He said that he saw the first group heading the direction of getting to the top of 101-elevator.  And the second group, he didnt see because when he walked into the building the second group was still outside(possibliy asking how to get up to the tower).  I would assume there is a clue box up at the tower because I asked my frend if he saw anything else on the racer's hands, but he only saw a blue piece of paper..

*I'll ask my friend tomorrow......All I can say is..I think Taipei locatin was either 26th of July or 27th.....And since he only saw 2 teams on a spand of 10 minutes, it has to be a leg with very few teams because if it was one of the beginning legs, more than 2 teams would appear in a span of around 10 minutes.....
*my friend was not sure who he actually saw because it was 3 months ago.....he only THINKS its jenn/nathan because of the blunette hair of the woman --    huholah  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5024)



 Kogs -- Taipei Taiwan (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235271.html#msg235271)


(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6532/23oct00072yv5.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00072yv5.jpg)schwarzmoor : Long Shan Temple, Taipei

(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2356/01jan0007zs0.th.jpg) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01jan0007zs0.jpg)Boingo  --Taipei taxi's  

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1705/templeeb7.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=templeeb7.jpg)Boingo--- National Theater Concert Hall in Taipei, Taiwan


(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5781/11nov0016qc0.th.jpg) (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11nov0016qc0.jpg) --Taipei 101

(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/48/11nov0018pg5.th.jpg) (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11nov0018pg5.jpg) Neobie:  Danshui River biking trail in Taipei

(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4737/01jan0001yy8.th.jpg) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01jan0001yy8.jpg)Boingo: Sky lanterns, Taiwan
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 03, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
Could that be Phil when he has to eliminate Ron and Christina if they are the ones to go? He seems to like them
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 03:01:12 PM
Clues~
Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
*All one Racer wants for her birthday is a spot in the Final 3…will her birthday wish be granted?
*The gloves come off as one Team tries to convince an airline employee to not sell tickets to another Team. Will the employee comply?
*One team becomes the brunt of attacks and criticism from another team.

:bar:
Teams go to Taipei 101, collect clue?
Teams travel by Taiwan High Speed Rail to Nantou County for the Roadblock
Teams travel back to Ximending in Taiwan where we think they might encounter the detour and or speed bump.

:bar:
Roadblock Jiji Stunt Village in Nantou County, thanks to newbie Jason

(http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/39835/2004306091709306520_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004306091709306520) (http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/39189/2005123453223131117_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005123453223131117) Rachel

 (http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/37831/2005173899952732743_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005173899952732743)Ron

 (http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/41031/2005170829988816667_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005170829988816667)Nathan

:bar:
Detour? or Speed-Bump?   Thanks to newbie genie007, journey of 100,000 rocks...behind Dr. Sun Yat-Sen Memorial


(http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/38008/2002065452258309990_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002065452258309990) Rachel & TK
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 03, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
That line has Jen written all over it.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: patlini on January 03, 2008, 08:59:44 PM
if there's an intersection and they're waiting on a team

it could be someone if they saw gramps
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 03, 2008, 09:39:15 PM
I do wonder.  Personally I don't like the intersection.  But it is possible.  THough would they put it on a leg with just four teams left? 

Season ten had 6 teams, has did ALL Stars, but both used Fast Forwards to get rid of two other teams.  So who knows.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 03, 2008, 10:15:18 PM
The intersection is definitely not my favorite feature of the race. I hope we don't see it in this race, but youneverknow.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 04, 2008, 09:06:57 AM
I really think it's an intersection lol. Since they were "waiting" for another team to arrive at the tower. If one team is being delayed due to the "speed bump", this is going to put some weight on the team that is going to be waiting for them.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 04, 2008, 04:03:46 PM
You know, it could be an Intersection.  I don't usually mind the Intersections, although some of them have been pure torture -- like the ones where teams had to eat a lot!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 04, 2008, 04:10:37 PM
if it were an intersection wouldn't the teams be happy to see another team?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Zack. on January 04, 2008, 05:10:07 PM
Michael, maybe the "you" in the quote is someone they don't want to pair up with - like Jenate gets to the intersection point first, but Nick/Gramps are next for example.

Granted I don't think there's an Intersection - if there were, the two couples would arrive at Taipei 101 together.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Traegen on January 04, 2008, 06:41:05 PM
Sounds to me like a team got on a plane thinking no one else would make it and the other teams got on at the last minute.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 05:58:46 PM
Boingo gave me the heads up that Taipei was on the travel channel so heres some screencaps of Taipei 101 for future reference~

photobucket link  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/taipei/?start=all) , bottom to top is the order.

 
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 06, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Please do not call Taiwan as ROC. We are not part of China. Thank you.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 06, 2008, 08:21:08 PM
Oops :) sorry. I took that off wikipedia.

there we go: :)
(Japan → Taiwan)

 Osaka (Kansai International Airport) to Taipei, Taiwan  (Taipei Taoyuan International Airport)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 08:41:29 PM
Yes we know jovian  :waves:, just read the thread!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 06, 2008, 08:42:50 PM
hehe oops again :P
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 06, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
I suspect one of the three leading teams says this about T.K. & Rachel when the dating couple finally makes it to the airport!  In any case ... I hope Ron & Christina make it to the finals!  With the Speed Bump and T.K. & Rachel being three hours behind, this could be it for the dating couple -- and then my favorite team will make it into the finals!   :jumpy:

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 08:45:08 PM
Is this 101? the second picture that is.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/taipei/05Jan0008.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 08:48:06 PM
Got any pretty screencaps to share?? :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: huholah on January 06, 2008, 08:53:28 PM
No, that's the front entrance of the Tao Yuan Airport
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 08:54:26 PM
hehe oops again :P
Wiki steals from us and then doesn't credit us because they suck like that  :waves:

Thanks to banzai's video, new screencaps

 
Don: It's a Race now.
TK: Time to start sweating!
Ron, shaking his head side-to-side ....
Chris: Crunch time.
Phil: It's all about who'll make the final three in a Race for a million dollars. The gloves are coming off.
Jen: That hatred is in my blood right now. I wanna rip those dreads right out of his (TK's) head!
Nic: We'll be aggressive. No competitors are left, just a bunch of pansies.
Ticket counter ...
Chris: If there are other requests, tell them it's full.
Jen: Don't listen to them! No! You can't listen to them!! Are you sure you didn't see anything?
Chris smirks.

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 06, 2008, 09:21:02 PM
The train's colors match the scheme used by Taiwan High Speed Rail (http://picasaweb.google.com/nephene1224/200703KMUTaiwanHighSpeedRail/photo#5039585209601340178) (schedule/timetables here (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/index.htm)). It's mainly for inter-city travel, but it would also make for a quick trip to central Taipei.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 09:27:08 PM
This is one strange looking parking lot??

(http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/40447/2003971323750656005_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003971323750656005)


Thank you for the pics puddin! :hearts:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 06, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
hopefully the red door will help us find the location
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 10:11:51 PM
hopefully the red door will help us find the location

yeah, get on that Michael :carryon:

Bad news is Rob can't get the preview up, he moved and his wire doesn't reach so if someone is capable of better screencaps please do so.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 06, 2008, 10:14:00 PM
i'm trying puddin :(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kogs on January 06, 2008, 10:20:59 PM
hopefully the red door will help us find the location

yeah, get on that Michael :carryon:

Bad news is Rob can't get the preview up, he moved and his wire doesn't reach so if someone is capable of better screencaps please do so.

now you tell me :meow: :waves:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 10:22:42 PM
i'm trying puddin :(

Google Taipei big red door with hinges  :lol:
Thanks in advance Kogs!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kogs on January 06, 2008, 10:58:10 PM
i'm trying puddin :(

Google Taipei big red door with hinges  :lol:
Thanks in advance Kogs!!

ill see what i can do, worst comes to worst ill grab it tomorow
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 11:01:10 PM
No problem Kogs. I'll check jokers later, dreamer usually puts one up.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kogs on January 06, 2008, 11:01:54 PM
WebClues

All one Racer wants for her birthday is a spot in the Final 3…will her birthday wish be granted?
The gloves come off as one Team tries to convince an airline employee to not sell tickets to another Team. Will the employee comply?
One team becomes the brunt of attacks and criticism from another team.



Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 06, 2008, 11:05:08 PM
Red doors seem to be the thing in Taipei.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 11:37:03 PM
No, that's the front entrance of the Tao Yuan Airport
Thanks huholah!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Zack. on January 06, 2008, 11:41:50 PM
WebClues

All one Racer wants for her birthday is a spot in the Final 3…will her birthday wish be granted?
The gloves come off as one Team tries to convince an airline employee to not sell tickets to another Team. Will the employee comply?
One team becomes the brunt of attacks and criticism from another team.


1. Jennifer (through a good bit of myspace detectivry  :lol: ) If puddin's right, then yes (and I hope so, watching people lose on their birthdays is not fun)
2. Editing suggests Ron/Christina, but I don't know if it works.
3. TKR maybe? Jen did say she wanted to rip off his dreads  :meow:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 11:42:31 PM
heres another one, Ron is with her

eta: reminds me of a junkyard

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 06, 2008, 11:43:29 PM
I looked for that parking lot and the only one I found that has the same sides or whatever (the white) has a red and white door. LOL! I suck so I will go back to letting you guys do your thing. I did try.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 11:47:00 PM
Aw come guys!

It's a junk yard !
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 06, 2008, 11:49:48 PM
Haha really. I saw one (the inside I think) that says its a parking lot in Taipei. See told you I sucked at this.  :keeta:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Boingo on January 06, 2008, 11:52:30 PM
 :colors ooooooh....pretty pictures of Taiwan trains (http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/02/taoyuan-train-trip/).   :lol:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 06, 2008, 11:55:04 PM
Odd  that Don changes his shirt --

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/06Jan0032.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/06Jan0043.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 07, 2008, 12:50:25 AM
WebClues

All one Racer wants for her birthday is a spot in the Final 3…will her birthday wish be granted?
The gloves come off as one Team tries to convince an airline employee to not sell tickets to another Team. Will the employee comply?
One team becomes the brunt of attacks and criticism from another team.


1. Jennifer (through a good bit of myspace detectivry  :lol: ) If puddin's right, then yes (and I hope so, watching people lose on their birthdays is not fun)
2. Editing suggests Ron/Christina, but I don't know if it works.
3. TKR maybe? Jen did say she wanted to rip off his dreads   :meow:
Jen isn't the one that says it, at least the pics I see its in TK/Rachels car. Or maybe im losing it.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 12:54:17 AM
It's Jen who says it Mama  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: banzai on January 07, 2008, 12:55:01 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x3z6fl

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 12:57:33 AM
 :yess: Thanks Banzai!!

so it could be what we call a junkyard?

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 07, 2008, 01:05:45 AM
Thanks Puddin. Just thought since it was on that pic I would bring it up. Im gonna shuttup this is all way too confusing. :lol3:

Oh and btw I don't get the previews for some reason, so im sure that was said by Jen but I can only go by the pic that was posted lol. It always says stay tuned for next weeks preview or whatever, goes to commercial then when it comes back its the next show *shrug* Good luck guys.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 07, 2008, 02:40:33 AM
As would be expected this shot was taken at Osaka's KIX airport:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/06Jan0049.jpg)

panoramio source (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/878711)

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: ChunHan on January 07, 2008, 04:12:46 AM
If this is a intersectiom,maybe Ron & Chris is ahead of the two couples

and cooperate with Nick & Don. And that's why Koqs' friend didn't see

the Asian team , is that possible?



BTW , I'm also a Taiwanese and a huge fan of Amazing Race. I can't wait

to watch the next episode!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 07, 2008, 07:46:31 AM
Hmm... What happens clearing Taipei's airport? They hate to show us customs; the last time was Flo trying to convince Zach to cut a line way back in Ho Chi Minh City!

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9386/taoyuanwo2.jpg)

Are we playing pick-a-line?

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8630/mrtjr9.jpg)

As of Autumn 2007, the only MRT system in existence in Taiwan was the one at Taipei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Rapid_Transit_System). Add that to the High-Speed Rail train in the picture, and the millions of stations in Taiwan whittle down to two possibilities: Taipei Main (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Main_Station), and Banciao (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%BF%E6%A9%8B%E8%BB%8A%E7%AB%99).

Banciao's metro and heavy rail lines are housed in separate buildings, so it is impossible to have a downwards escalator leading from the train platform to the MRT. Take a look at this graphic (http://www.dorts.gov.tw/news/newsletter/ns210/板橋站透視圖.jpg), showing the metro station.

But looking at the floor plans for Taipei... HELP! LOST! (http://home.trtc.com.tw/web/download/%A5x%A5_%A8%AE%AF%B8%BE%C9%C4%FD%B9%CF.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 07, 2008, 09:21:20 AM
This (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Taipei_Main_Station_Floor_Map.gif) might be better (or worse, I don't know  :angel:).
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Red Devils on January 07, 2008, 09:26:55 AM
Hmm.. I don't know if anyone's pay attention to this small detail over the past 9 eposides... it just seems to me that Chris loves to add the phrase "Hey... Guys" whenever she sees another team(s); especially when Ron/Her were waiting for something.. be it @ the airport or @road block... (I swear it must be > 90% of the time).... So I am going to make a bold prediction here and said that the title is the words from Chris' mouth.... @ the exact moment where the intersection ( I am also assuming there's an intersection next leg) sign appears...

I think it's a race for the top 3 teams to get to the intersection and somehow I just think Nate/Jen went with Nick/Don (or other way around) to do the intersection, leaving Chris/Ron behind waiting for TK/Rachel, who actually caught up with all the teams in Taipei and may be even @ the intersection, but has to perform a Speed Bump before taking the intersection with Ron/Chris... so this has costs Chris/Ron to be quite upset about the situation n eventually said "Sorry, Guys, I am not happy to see you guys"...

This also explains another theory whereby Chris/Ron are eliminated in this leg as they lost to TK/Rachel in a race to the pitstop..... :wohoo:

hmm correct me if I am wrong.... :waves:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 07, 2008, 09:32:24 AM
I'm not entirely sure if its an intersection though. Initially I thought it might be, but then again, from the past 2 seasons, intersections were performed by the final 6 teams. And there was the fast forward awards for the intersections. (Fast forward taken in the intersection leg: Uchenna & Joyce + Oswald & Danny <ALL STARS> and Tyler & James + Rob & Kimberly <Season 10)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 07, 2008, 09:34:16 AM
For some reason, I think that is what Jen would say. I don't think Chris would be that "rude" to the other racers and tell that to them straight to their faces :P
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Red Devils on January 07, 2008, 09:38:43 AM
For some reason, I think that is what Jen would say. I don't think Chris would be that "rude" to the other racers and tell that to them straight to their faces :P

Hmm..I understand your theory with Jen's being emotional and loves to bicker so she's the prime suspect in saying this, however, I just got a hinch that somehow it's Chris saying this title in a nicer way........ I think she has used this tone before in the race.... if u know what I mean???? JUst try and imagine she said "Sorry... Guys" in the same way as she said "Hey ... guys" during the race then you would know what I am talking about....
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 07, 2008, 09:43:16 AM
Hmm.. I don't know if anyone's pay attention to this small detail over the past 9 eposides... it just seems to me that Chris loves to add the phrase "Hey... Guys" whenever she sees another team(s); especially when Ron/Her were waiting for something.. be it @ the airport or @road block... (I swear it must be > 90% of the time).... So I am going to make a bold prediction here and said that the title is the words from Chris' mouth.... @ the exact moment where the intersection ( I am also assuming there's an intersection next leg) sign appears...

I think it's a race for the top 3 teams to get to the intersection and somehow I just think Nate/Jen went with Nick/Don (or other way around) to do the intersection, leaving Chris/Ron behind waiting for TK/Rachel, who actually caught up with all the teams in Taipei and may be even @ the intersection, but has to perform a Speed Bump before taking the intersection with Ron/Chris... so this has costs Chris/Ron to be quite upset about the situation n eventually said "Sorry, Guys, I am not happy to see you guys"...

This also explains another theory whereby Chris/Ron are eliminated in this leg as they lost to TK/Rachel in a race to the pitstop..... :wohoo:

hmm correct me if I am wrong.... :waves:
There's no need to correct you, Red Devils. I think you have called the second paragraph(beginning with "I think it's a race")  correctly. That makes your hypotheses in the first paragraph also correct.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Red Devils on January 07, 2008, 10:01:48 AM
Hmm.. I don't know if anyone's pay attention to this small detail over the past 9 eposides... it just seems to me that Chris loves to add the phrase "Hey... Guys" whenever she sees another team(s); especially when Ron/Her were waiting for something.. be it @ the airport or @road block... (I swear it must be > 90% of the time).... So I am going to make a bold prediction here and said that the title is the words from Chris' mouth.... @ the exact moment where the intersection ( I am also assuming there's an intersection next leg) sign appears...

I think it's a race for the top 3 teams to get to the intersection and somehow I just think Nate/Jen went with Nick/Don (or other way around) to do the intersection, leaving Chris/Ron behind waiting for TK/Rachel, who actually caught up with all the teams in Taipei and may be even @ the intersection, but has to perform a Speed Bump before taking the intersection with Ron/Chris... so this has costs Chris/Ron to be quite upset about the situation n eventually said "Sorry, Guys, I am not happy to see you guys"...

This also explains another theory whereby Chris/Ron are eliminated in this leg as they lost to TK/Rachel in a race to the pitstop..... :wohoo:

hmm correct me if I am wrong.... :waves:
There's no need to correct you, Red Devils. I think you have called it correctly.

Really apskip?????? I just have this hinch that Somehow Jen wouldn't said something like "Sorry.. Guys" if she's not happy to see another team (I mean take a look at what she said in the preview when she gets upset or even take a moment to look back at what she said to Nate when she was  :groan: "push" B:) B:) B:) into the taxi)...... so the next logical person for me would be Chris/Rachel (unlikely) since I can't see the guys saying this .....
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: patlini on January 07, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
maybe something happened at the intersection and TK doesn't work fast enough in Jen's minds, hence her blood being filled with hatred and wanting to pull the dreads out
or 3 teams got to the intersection at the same time and TK and Rachel pick a different team..
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 01:15:49 PM
Maybe Jen is mad, if its her for the title that is, that Rachel & TK had to do the speed bump, and they caught up to her & Nate, like the Goths did now giving TK & Rachel  the Goth like "witch powers"?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 07, 2008, 01:21:20 PM
The intersection, if it happens at all, probably happens right at or after Taipei 101.  That sighting places a time constraint that is in opposition to expected flight arrival times (esp for TK & Rachel).

So, I'm just thinking that there would not be time to have the Intersection board arranged at some other cluebox prior to the 101.

The mystery to resolve is how TK & Rachel manage to get to Taiwan customs at the same time as the other teams.  Maybe there is the Asian equivalent of Polish Air and the flights will be discovered which make it possible after all.  That and a truncated Pit Stop would do it.

The fact that Jenn & Nate seemed to have to wait for the next team to arrive may have been a production-imposed edict in order to get side-by-side competing team shots.  Maybe a time credit or penalty was effected by this mechanism?   :umn:

I think the title quote goes to Christina.  Red Devils has the Christina way of speaking down pat.  So, if the Intersection is after Taipei 101 then they loose the footrace with TK & Rachel.  And if the Intersection is at Taipei 101, Ron & Christina could be eliminated another way after being Intersected with Don & Nick.

Remember how Dustin & Kandice tried to hide for a while from Charla & Myrna?   :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 07, 2008, 01:26:09 PM
Look at one of Nick and Don's screenshots for the preview of the next episode. What time do you think it is? They couldnt have arrived late could they?

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 07, 2008, 01:58:17 PM
Darkness?  How could it be dark?

I'm starting to wonder if the Taiwan spoiler got the date wrong.  Could it have been Saturday July 28 when they were seen at Taipei 101?

If it was, that would ease up a lot of inconsistencies.    :(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 02:01:56 PM
No, his friend clearly said it was on Friday because that is the only day he had to shop...

Could the dark be leaving for the airport? Since TPTB clearly have no respect for the 12 hour Pitstop anymore...
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 07, 2008, 02:14:35 PM
If this is a intersectiom,maybe Ron & Chris is ahead of the two couples

and cooperate with Nick & Don. And that's why Koqs' friend didn't see

the Asian team , is that possible?



BTW , I'm also a Taiwanese and a huge fan of Amazing Race. I can't wait

to watch the next episode!!
Welcome, ChunHan! Nice to see my fellow Taiwanese here.  :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 07, 2008, 02:24:45 PM
Without Chateau's expertise, but based on a sunset time of 7:06, then it looks like the teams arrive at the pitstop something like this:

Ron and Chris - 6:45PM
Nathan and Jenn - 7:00PM
Don and Nick - 8:00PM
Tk and Rachel - 11:00PM

If they have only the usual 12 hour pit stop, the teams would be leaving in daylight the next morning.  Where is the shot of Don and Nick (with blue tee shirt seen in other shots in Taiwan) at night from?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
Chateau--I'm confused again....

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The mystery to resolve is how TK & Rachel manage to get to Taiwan customs at the same time as the other teams.  Maybe there is the Asian equivalent of Polish Air and the flights will be discovered which make it possible after all.  That and a truncated Pit Stop would do it.

DID they manage to get there WITH other teams? How do we know that? Could they still be hours behind?  My brain hurts today! :lol: 

Or is this just a we know they need to castch up hopeful kind of comment --not that they DID show us that they caught up?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 07, 2008, 03:07:50 PM
Well...

just looking at Rachel's smile and tiny little clapping hands makes me think they see other teams ahead in the customs line.   :tup:

That and the Taiwan spoiler placing them with Jenn & Nate at Taipei 101 a few minutes later.

Maybe Jenn has trouble in the customs due to the extra head she carries around for the occasions that the one on her shoulder explodes.  (complete rip off of some one else's post in another forum)   ;)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 03:12:33 PM
FOUR TEAMS PUT THEIR RACING SKILLS TO THE TEST FOR A CHANCE AT A SPOT IN THE FINAL THREE OF "THE AMAZING RACE 12,"
SUNDAY, JAN. 13 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

 

    "Sorry, Guys, 'I'm Not Happy to See You'" — One Racer celebrates her birthday on the Race and the only gift she wants is a spot in the final three, as the remaining four Teams battle it out for a chance to run the final leg and win the one million dollar prize, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Jan. 13 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
Some sort of Jeep training course? This looks like where our big red door is. Who's with Nathan?

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
It looks like a random girl puddin. Maybe they have to drive the jeep with an instructor just in case? :duno:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
Yeahs shes asian and not Christina, lol. Looks like a roadblock, I guess.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: bingo on January 07, 2008, 03:37:52 PM
About the intersection.  i think the show realized after what a disaster it was last year it should have been taken it.  It turned into a three hour yield for the Beauty Queens.  It would also seem very unfair to have a intersection basically saving TK and Rachel, but then again they did put two non eliminations right after each other [giving Danielle and Eric and free pass].   
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 03:38:10 PM
Maybe its part of a movie set?  like where they would do outakes :duno:

eta: there is a Central Movie Studio near Taipei
eta: I don't think thats is :p
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
Kind of like the Danny and Oswald FF in TAR11? I can see that. Why the hell else would they be driving a jeep through water
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 03:42:45 PM
Looks like the other person/woman is doing the driving. And they have on a diving mask of some sort. Maybe this is more of an escape underwater task than a how to drive a jeep obstacle training course?  What to do if you are drowning? I dunno...
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 04:02:06 PM
Looks like the other person/woman is doing the driving. And they have on a diving mask of some sort. Maybe this is more of an escape underwater task than a how to drive a jeep obstacle training course?  What to do if you are drowning? I dunno...
I think they are goggles peach, I can't see someone acutually drowning in that shallow water.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 04:10:37 PM
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And they have on a diving mask of some sort.

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 04:17:19 PM
Did you ever see tv shows like how they make CHIPS? they weren't really riding then the background was inserted in, as in fake. Well thats what this reminds me of. They put the actors into the jeeps then insert a fake background. Also there are ramps in the background, something they would use on a movie set

See the jeep is probably suspended on a track~

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 04:20:02 PM
Quit laughing at me....

Maybe it is a special task at Taiwan Drivers License School?

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The drivers license situation is idiotic. Most American states do not recognize Taiwanese licenses, so Taiwanese must take a test there. Consquently, most Americans must take the test here 

There is a written test (impossible to fail) and a road test (impossible to pass). The road test is done in a closed course which is completely unreflective of real-world conditions: it is built so you fail regardless of skill or experience. Nearly everyone fails the first time (this writer included, a most humiliating experience) and most fail more than once. 


The reason it is designed this way is simple: graft. In the old days the road test facility was also the site where driving class takes place. Since the people who teach driving are the same people who administer the test, they make big bucks when you fail and are then forced to register for their classes (welcome to Taiwan: scam island).
 
The majority of people register for driving classes so they can practice with the substandard vehicles provided by the test site on the dreaded "S" curve itself, a tight S-shaped curve which must be backed down in one fluid motion -- you are not allowed to stop or go forward. For those of you who are curious, on my second test (which I passed), my friend's friend's brother's friend, who administered the test, said I drove extremely well.
 

(http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/40976/2004422236452359692_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004422236452359692)

A drivers ed center behind a parking lot in Yungho outside of Taipei. To the left is the stylized hill for practicing accelerating and braking, to the right is the practice layout

link: http://www.michaelturton.com/Taiwan/driving.html
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
^^^^  :colors


So Ron looks like he did the Jeep thing and perhaps Don, that would explain the shirt change.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0017.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0019.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 06:49:04 PM
:badhorse:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0050.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0051.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
My bf says the red pipething is a snorkel  fwiw
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 07, 2008, 06:58:43 PM
If this is a intersectiom,maybe Ron & Chris is ahead of the two couples

and cooperate with Nick & Don. And that's why Koqs' friend didn't see

the Asian team , is that possible?



BTW , I'm also a Taiwanese and a huge fan of Amazing Race. I can't wait

to watch the next episode!!

Yeah, it's possible!  Unfortunately, a lot of people here are practically convinced that Ron & Christina are the next team out, so most of them are convinced that either Ron & Christina have to work with T.K. & Rachel at the possible Intersection or Ron & Christina fall behind later on.  As a fan of the team, I'm holding out hope that they survive.  Although I'd rather have Nathan & Jennifer out than T.K. & Rachel, if it's a choice between having Ron & Christina out and T.K. & Rachel out, I'm going with T.K. & Rachel for the elimination.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 06:59:57 PM
this is such an annoying task to figure out!
I've looked for every combination of why a jeep might be under water in Taipei and I cant find anything!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 07:01:08 PM
My bf says the red pipething is a snorkel  fwiw

I knew I loved your BF!  :lol:

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And they have on a diving mask of some sort.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 07:04:05 PM
They're still goggles peach  :neener:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
Well as far as I found it looks like a hobby , driving jeeps underwater. :duno:

 
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
what the hell kind of stupid hobby is that LOL
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 07, 2008, 07:20:18 PM
Maybe they have to test something in water? Taiwan is known for jeep parts from what I was thinking. Although that does seem like alot of work to just test something.

Puddin is probably right though, its just like muddin!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 07:22:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSjC-wOPAIM

Maybe they have to clean the bottom of a jeep?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 07, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
There is a thing called underwater jeep tours, could that be a possibility.

Has anyone seen the jeep commercial? After doing a search I saw where it says they come out from the ocean or something. Just trying to help!  :-[

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSjC-wOPAIM

Maybe they have to clean the bottom of a jeep?
Yeah, its some new fangled, high-tech undercar wash  :lol3:!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 07, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
Yay Michael.

Puddins bf sent me looking for the jeep snorkels and thats how I found the underwater tours. Sounds cool actually but i'll stick with muddin for now ;)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 07, 2008, 07:33:36 PM
 :lol3:
keep in mind the are in a narrow little passage of water that doesn't look muddy
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 07:42:22 PM
Who knew??  :lol3:

http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/reading/water-crossing.htm

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Diff Breathers
When a hot axle hits cold water it cools rapidly. This has the effect of lowering the air pressure inside the axle and the diff housing, causing air to be drawn in via the diff breathers. Extending your diff breathers higher up the chassis (standard on most Landcruisers) with the aid of plastic tubing is a "must do" for regular water goers. However, it is no guarantee that water will not enter your diff. The sudden reduction in air pressure inside your diff can still cause water to be drawn in via your axle seals if the diff breathers do not equalize the pressure quick enough. This is why its still necessary to allow the vehicle time to cool down, even when extended diff breathers are fitted.


NEVER attempt a water crossing where the water depth is above the air intake height. If you intend doing regular water crossings, its a good idea to fit a snorkel as it raises the air intake to your roofline. It doesn't mean you can use your 4WD as a submarine!


Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 07:53:29 PM
This is so stupid, you'd think this would be easy to find  :lol:?
What if its a test facilty for testing cars or jeeps to go through high water to rescue people in flood waters? I've had no luck finding such a place though  :umn:  :pull
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 08:03:57 PM
oops, looks like the army beat my idea  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 08:07:40 PM
 :lol:  The olive green color should have tipped off folks that this may be a military facility.  Afterall, the last few TARS have gone that route (Guam, Ukraine).  Taipei should have some military sites.   :angel:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 07, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
Just to let you know, while under martial law, all Taiwanese men had to go through military training sometime during their college years (in case China invaded, that type of thing), so there are still many military bases on the island.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 09:24:22 PM
:lol:  The olive green color should have tipped off folks that this may be a military facility.  Afterall, the last few TARS have gone that route (Guam, Ukraine).  Taipei should have some military sites.   :angel:
:duh: , wish you were here sooner Boingo! Still nothing but articles.
Recruitment and Training of Personnel (http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-11917.html)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 08, 2008, 07:33:13 AM
Yes, Puddin; thanks for the reminder. :groan:

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8630/mrtjr9.jpg)

Slowhatch's floor plan (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Taipei_Main_Station_Floor_Map.gif) works well enough! While Banciao's connection between the train and subway lines is on the ground floor and B1, Taipei Main Station's connection hall is on B3, one floor below the rail lines on B2. This means TK and Rachel are boarding a high-speed train from the terminus station of Taipei, and are definitely leaving the city for the south.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif/341px-TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif)

But where to? It's got to be far enough, at least beyond Hsinchu, to make the trip worthwhile... (Buses and local trains cover that distance just as easily.)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2008, 09:03:49 AM
Wow Neobie! What a great find! Fun for us to see more of Taiwan than Taipei! :happy:



Now-if we could only find Boingo his drum....
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 08, 2008, 10:39:30 AM
Neobie, a potential desination would then be Tainan. Another possiblity is Kaohsiung, but I do not thnk they will be sent to an industrial city with all the beauty of Taiwan available elsewhere.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2008, 10:51:23 AM
Oooh--I want them to go to  Sun Moon Lake (http://www.traveltaiwan.com/e/g3.htm)

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Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 08, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
Oooh--I want them to go to  Sun Moon Lake (http://www.traveltaiwan.com/e/g3.htm)
I've been there! So peaceful. So beautiful. So tranquil. And I got to sleep on a wooden bed. But other than the wooden bed, it was one of the best experiences of my life.  :tup: :tup:

Much different from the hustle and bustle of Taipei and Kaoshiung. When this edition of the Race is over, perhaps I'll share some of my pictures of my visit with you.  ;D ;D

Oh, I don't have the time, but if someone can punch up Toroko Gorge with the highway cut into the side of a mountain and its hot springs, that's another place I'd love the racers to see.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
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When this edition of the Race is over, perhaps I'll share some of my pictures of my visit with you.   


And we have to wait why?/

Toroko Gorge--I went there online too...brb...
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 08, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
When Jen says "hatred is in my blood right now" and "I'm going to rip those dreads out of his head", could it have been directed at Ronald? Seeing what happened in the airport in the preview of the next leg when Christina supposedly told the counter employee not to sell them tickets?
Thus, having Jen say the title quote "sorry guys, im not happy to see you"? Could it be a possiblity?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2008, 11:36:22 AM
Toroko Gorge (http://www.world66.com/asia/northeastasia/taiwan/torokogorge)

 Flickr set (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=toroko+gorge)



ummm...Ronald didn't have dreads the last I looked! :pull
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
When Jen says "hatred is in my blood right now" and "I'm going to rip those dreads out of his head", could it have been directed at Ronald? Seeing what happened in the airport in the preview of the next leg when Christina supposedly told the counter employee not to sell them tickets?
Thus, having Jen say the title quote "sorry guys, im not happy to see you"? Could it be a possiblity?
:groan: :wtf: We need a photochop of Ron with dreads pronto!!  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 08, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
Ron has become a rastafarian (http://paulsmit.smugmug.com/photos/98516511-O.jpg)!  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 08, 2008, 02:02:25 PM
If our source in Taiwan is correct, this statement is puzzling:


*When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. 
*He also saw 2 camera men running with them. 
*However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. 
*He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man.  He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. 
*Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. 
*He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl

The first couple must be TK and Rachel (the other brunette is Chris, but Ron is anything except athletic and fit) and the second couple must be Nathan and Jenn (Jenn being the only blonde).

BUT THE SECOND COUPLE ARRIVED 10 MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST so how in the world did TK and Rachel manage to get ahead of Nathan and Jenn?

This doesn't sound like an intersection, but if it is than Ron and Chris are paired with Don and Nick.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 08, 2008, 02:15:18 PM
haha i must have read it wrongly haha. Yep it was directed at TK hahaha. Sowwy :P haha, i thought she meant dread as in "apprehension" haha, i didnt read it right haha :P she meant dread as in his hair haha :P im such an idiot :P
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gator27 on January 08, 2008, 03:08:27 PM
haha i must have read it wrongly haha. Yep it was directed at TK hahaha. Sowwy :P haha, i thought she meant dread as in "apprehension" haha, i didnt read it right haha :P she meant dread as in his hair haha :P im such an idiot :P
:lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2008, 03:34:22 PM
I found a cool park although I don't think this is the place but fwiw since I found it  B:) B:)

Leofoo Village Theme Park
Amusement Park:  Leofoo Village Theme Park
Address:  Kuanhsi chen, Hsinchu Taiwan
 

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=24.820997,121.181785&spn=0.003192,0.002951&t=k&hl=en
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 08, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
Oooh--I want them to go to  Sun Moon Lake (http://www.traveltaiwan.com/e/g3.htm)

Around 1980, I went to Taiwan for 8 days. The most scenic part was SunMoon Lake. There was also a nearby mountain that is the traditional place for viewing the Rising of the Sun to the east starting at 330am.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 08, 2008, 05:28:59 PM
If our source in Taiwan is correct, this statement is puzzling:


*When he was planning to shop in 101 at noon, he saw this man and women (couples) ran out of the taxi and looked up at Taipei 101. 
*He also saw 2 camera men running with them. 
*However, he found it weird that the couples did not enter the Taipei 101 and were actually waiting for someone. 
*He describes the couple as a brunette woman and a man.  He said that the man seemed very athletic and fit. 
*Since he saw that there were camera men around, he notices that this might be on TV. 
*He continued to stay for 10 minutes and another group came which he describes as another couple which consists of a blond girl

The first couple must be TK and Rachel (the other brunette is Chris, but Ron is anything except athletic and fit) and the second couple must be Nathan and Jenn (Jenn being the only blonde).

BUT THE SECOND COUPLE ARRIVED 10 MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST so how in the world did TK and Rachel manage to get ahead of Nathan and Jenn?

This doesn't sound like an intersection, but if it is than Ron and Chris are paired with Don and Nick.

Perhaps T.K. & Rachel got on the same flight as Nathan & Jennifer, and Ron & Christina and Nicholas & Donald took another flight, either earlier or later than the other one (my guess is earlier).  If that's the case, then T.K. & Rachel and Nathan & Jennifer are racing to avoid elimination, with T.K. & Rachel sadly losing out.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 08, 2008, 07:52:06 PM
At first I thought the thing in the background (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45769;image) might be an RTI ramp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramp_travel_index). But it looks too steep, and the tandem build doesn't make sense. Back to the drawing board.  ???
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
I've never been so bored looking for something TAR related Slowhatch :pull (:;)! I'll take the darn Taiko hunt over this anyday  :lol:
I've tried every combination of words that I could think of, training field, simulation, army, military, base, etc to name a few but am glad to know that I'm not the only one having a hard time with this  :duno:, I just can't think outside the box, can't get the wording right.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Maybe this will help  :lol3:, short commercial~
They are balancing on that ramp as it rocks back and forth.

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Post by: Chateau d If on January 09, 2008, 11:12:49 AM
Who is driving?  Racer or professional?
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Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 11:22:29 AM
Who is driving?  Racer or professional?
I'd guess pro since they drive on the left side as seen in the jeep with Nathan.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 11:26:20 AM
Maybe its a series of obstacle course? Same vehicle or no? Plus I'll guess first come first serve?

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Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 11:44:23 AM
Well, that answers the ramps.  ;D A proving ground, perhaps? The swinging "gate" would allow up-and-down testing without resetting a lot of gear. And it looks like there's a mud track next to the water track.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 11:51:03 AM
My bf says maybe its an old suzuki sidekick? fwiw
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: aaron1262 on January 09, 2008, 12:58:59 PM


Perhaps T.K. & Rachel got on the same flight as Nathan & Jennifer, and Ron & Christina and Nicholas & Donald took another flight, either earlier or later than the other one (my guess is earlier).  If that's the case, then T.K. & Rachel and Nathan & Jennifer are racing to avoid elimination, with T.K. & Rachel sadly losing out.

Belle Book

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Hey..i'm new to this forum..I'm an avid TAR fan..haven't missed an episode since season 2 i think..I was in 7th grade back then. lol

I would have to agree with the post above....nobody has mentioned that Ron/Chris Nick/Don could be ahead and it seems that many people on here have trusted the spoiler from the guy at Taipei 101....that they are behind.

It clearly says he "thinks" he heard the "asians were eliminated or far behind"...there's much discrepancy between thinks and clearly heard ya?

I think that it's one of those instances where one team just finds a better flight than another team.....since R/C arrive first and the other two arriving around the same time...could Chris's ploy on the commercial to tell the agent at the airport not to sell their itin work? Hardly ever does...but it's a possibility
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 01:07:57 PM
Welcome to the forum aaron :yaya:

fwiw, no audio
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Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 01:10:21 PM
omg, now we can add "jeep tipping on a platform and then falling into water" to the google search.

PS:
you can see a shot of ron for like one milisecond
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 09, 2008, 02:48:13 PM
Who is driving?  Racer or professional?
I'd guess pro since they drive on the left side as seen in the jeep with Nathan.

Maybe those jeeps are American jeeps. However, I doubt it. All driving in Japan is done on the left side of the road, which means that the driver in on the right side. I think we were looking at Jennifer and Ronald driving in the above frames.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
^^ I think you mean Rachel, not Jen.
In this picture, clearly the lady is driving and Nathan is hanging onto a bar. Clearly I have no idea what this sort of place is called or where to begin even looking  :lol: Taiwan lurkers or anyone with some knowledge, please help us out here  :pull

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Post by: Belle Book on January 09, 2008, 04:12:16 PM
Exactly, Aaron!  Since Ron & Christina are in first at this point and T.K. & Rachel are three hours behind Nicholas & Don (and a little more than that for the other two teams), it seems quite possible to me that Ron & Christina actually get an earlier flight and are joined by Nicholas & Don, while Nathan & Jennifer have to get on a later flight with T.K. & Rachel.  As for the guy at the Taipei 101 building, he could've either misinterpreted what Jennifer actually said, or Jennifer might've thought or hoped that Ron & Christina actually got a later flight.  Perhaps I'm indulging in wishful thinking because I like Ron & Christina more than the other teams and want to see them stick around, but I'm still going with my theory that Ron & Christina and Nicholas & Don are on the first flight and come in first & second, while Nathan & Jennifer and T.K. & Rachel scramble to avoid elimination.  Nathan & Jennifer sadly win the battle, and T.K. & Rachel are eliminated.  That's my prediction.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 09, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
I think that it may be TK or Rachel who says the line: "Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You"  since team Ron and Chris have already had 4 title quotes already, and team Don/Nick have had 1 and Team Jen/Nate have had 2. It would make sense to me if they added one in for TK/Rachel before this season ended.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 04:25:56 PM
You guys, like puddin posted earlier there is a speculation on spoiler thread so keep all of the speculation there if possible. Believe me, I know it's hard, I find myself posting random things in here all the time :lol:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 04:48:13 PM
as crappy as they are , better than nothing!

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 04:51:49 PM
Lets see how this turned out  :keeta:

 
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 04:54:22 PM
I think that it may be TK or Rachel who says the line: "Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You"  since team Ron and Chris have already had 4 title quotes already, and team Don/Nick have had 1 and Team Jen/Nate have had 2. It would make sense to me if they added one in for TK/Rachel before this season ended.
Gretchen, TAR7 had 6 or 7 title's, it means nothing.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 05:05:52 PM
I saw them walking on hot coal!
The jeep is completley submerged in water :O

Jen looks really pissed off in almost all of the screencaps.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 09, 2008, 05:13:03 PM
Could it be the underwater jeeps and then they have to find their clue under there?

I've looked everywhere and I can't find anything. Sorry guys!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 05:28:15 PM
I saw them walking on hot coal!
The jeep is completley submerged in water :O

Jen looks really pissed off in almost all of the screencaps.
Well they do some fire walking at temples in Taiwan but I was thinking they just took off their shoes, LOL!
Also Jen looks pissed at someone boarding the plane in that one shot. And I'll guess they just have to complete the road-course whatever roadblock to get the clue, no underwater clue.

Fire Walking Ceremony at Yishun Cheow Leng Temple   :lol3:
 
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 05:42:51 PM
Thanks Puddin for the caps. I found another video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9151475837065871518&q=taipei+firewalk&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0) that was tagged "lungshan." Could that be the same as our Longshan? Here's a map (http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln270/Images270/LongShan.JPG) for Peach.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 05:48:17 PM
Thanks Puddin for the caps. I found another video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9151475837065871518&q=taipei+firewalk&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0) that was tagged "lungshan." Could that be the same as our Longshan? Here's a map (http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln270/Images270/LongShan.JPG) for Peach.
Well thats more like it, mine looked dangerous, lol.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 05:50:42 PM
Looks the same to me Slowhatch!!
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Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 05:50:59 PM
lmap puddin your fire walking looked killer.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 06:05:25 PM
I went looking for "longshan drum." I didn't find a drum, but I did find this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djsummitt/1439020815/).  :jam:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 06:09:09 PM
I went looking for "longshan drum." I didn't find a drum, but I did find this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djsummitt/1439020815/).  :jam:
HURRAY!!!!!! YAY Slowhatch!!  :jumpy: also I was thinking if thats where the darn Taiko is I'll either be happy or  :pull
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Zack. on January 09, 2008, 06:12:06 PM
So how about this for leg design:

- Pit Start (morning of 7/26) - fly to Taipei (airport hijinks  :meow: )
- Taipei 101 (potential location of Speed Bump clue)
- RB (Who tests well? Person must test vehicles under a variety of conditions i.e. act as a ballast)
- subway station (including Jen bitchface - Ken wil be happy ;)) (potential location of Speed Bump clue after subway ride)
- Detour (walk through the fire or walk through the city confused  :duno:)
- Pit Stop (evening of 7/27) Ron/Chris or TKR philiminated

and  :ascared at puddin's firewalking
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 06:14:56 PM
YAY Slowhatch! :hearts:  Candles!

Was it Survivor or TAR that did a walk on coals task before? I remember this....

But if the car thingy is a roadblock that means firewalking would be the Detour and BOTH members have to do it. Ouch!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
Just looking around Slowhatch's album~

Ximending generally refers to the area surrounded by Zhonghua Rd., Kangding Rd., Hankou St., and Chengdu Rd. Since many bus lines gather in Zhonghua Rd., Ximending is also an important area for bus transfers. The MRT Ximen Station for the Blue Line and Green Line is also set up here.

The Ximending Pedestrian Area is named after the administrative division Seimon Machi (西門町), which existed during Japanese rule. The area of Seimon Machi included modern-day Chengdu Rd. (成都路), Xining S. Rd. (西寧南路), Kunming St. (昆明街), and Kangding Rd (康定路). However, today the Ximending Pedestrian Area not only includes Seimon Machi, but also Wakatake Machi (若竹町) and Araki Machi (新起町).
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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 06:18:44 PM
YAY Slowhatch! :hearts:  Candles!

Was it Survivor or TAR that did a walk on coals task before? I remember this....

But if the car thingy is a roadblock that means firewalking would be the Detour and BOTH members have to do it. Ouch!
And most likely NO intersection  :jam:!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
peach it may have been TAR1 that had coal walking before, I remember it as well
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 06:51:46 PM
Do you think these balls of lights could be lanterns?  :angel:  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Zack. on January 09, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
*has idea*

I was staring at the first post looking at intro flashes, and the two that stood out were the Concert Hall (my guess for pitstop) and the man biking. I think that might be the other detour option so the Detour choices would be Walk (walk across hot coals) or Bike (bike the Danshui River trail). Just a guess.

It still doesn't answer why Nate/Jen and Ron/Chris are wandering/arguing through Taipei at night (sunset is 6:42 PM FWIW). Not to mention that Nic/Don have boarded or are boarding a train/subway at 14:57 per the clock in the preview.

There's a lot to this leg I think, and that's excluding TKR's speed bump  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
16:57, would they really ride bikes at night along a river? I dunno? It could be just that, a scenic picture...... and I'm thinking now that the nail biter that Nathan speaks of comes down to TK & Rachel, Nathan & Jen :popcorn:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0065.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 09, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
We now have Don and Nick at the train at 16:57.  But are they arriving somewhere or getting on the train?  We also have TK and Rachel entering the train, and a shot of Jenn on the train.  So it looks like all four teams have to take the train somewhere.  The question is where?  Where is the Jeep test track?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kogs on January 09, 2008, 07:37:59 PM
peach it may have been TAR1 that had coal walking before, I remember it as well

uh want to bring a source, CAUSE I DO NOT REMEMEBER THAT
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
I think it was Survivor 1 kogs.... Somebody did some hot coals and I think it was the last group of Survivors in season 1. Not TAR...  I'm seeing Hatch--foreshadowing maybe?? :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 08:08:39 PM
I thought this might have been the elevator at Taipei 101 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0015.jpg) but I can't match the outside cross-rail, and I don't think it has an outside elevator anyway (trivia:world's fastest elevator).
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 08:11:54 PM
I thought this was the plane   :groan:

(http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/39734/2005553144664914982_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005553144664914982)(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/38588/2001430107916029846_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001430107916029846)

and an extra~
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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 08:34:02 PM
 :jumpy: From newbie genie007  who is having problems posting.

journey of 100,000 rocks... Behind the Memorial Hall ( Dr. Sun Yat-Sen Memorial Hall )is this interesting stone trail which is meant to be walked on barefoot as a form of accupunctural therapy. According to some beliefs, you can access all the major organs and lines of energy in the body through the feet and putting pressure on certain points can bring health and correct illness. I have yet to try this trail myself, it looks...painful. 

http://travellingrob.blogspot.com/2006_01_08_archive.html

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 08:35:16 PM
OK so it's not hot coal walking  :lol: :neener:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Boingo on January 09, 2008, 08:39:10 PM

High Speed Rail, Taipei Station   :angel:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 09, 2008, 08:43:17 PM

High Speed Rail, Taipei Station   :angel:

Are those the cross beams seen in that earlier elevator shot?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 08:48:17 PM
Taichung might be another possibility; the THSR (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/travel/stations.asp) site has virtual tours, and that's the closest platform match I've found.

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 08:49:15 PM
Taipei Station MRT elevator: But they look awfully high in the first pic?!

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 08:57:07 PM
More train and train station pics HERE  (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/396665783_8d2c05e9b5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://taiwanfeed.com/node/3074&h=334&w=500&sz=102&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=vC5ObmZT3aRItM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtaipei%2Bstation%2Belevators%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGFRC,GFRC:2007-02,GFRC:en%26sa%3DN) including glass elevators
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 09:25:26 PM
Taichung might be another possibility; the THSR (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/travel/stations.asp) site has virtual tours, and that's the closest platform match I've found.

Skyscraper City has some platform pictures,  (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=367080) some pictures work some don't and are just red x's :angel:

Also thinking, journey of 100,000 rocks could be the speed bump? would suck to have it near the end of the leg  :ascared
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 09:35:13 PM
Quote
would suck to have it near the end of the leg

yeah...I don't want it at the end of MY leg either!

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote
would suck to have it near the end of the leg

yeah...I don't want it at the end of MY leg either!

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
  Shush you  :lol:

Let me try this again

(http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38138/2004805990029769486_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004805990029769486)(http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/39089/2004866377403963160_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004866377403963160)(http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/39309/2003443423755679713_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003443423755679713)

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 09, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
I went looking for "longshan drum." I didn't find a drum, but I did find this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djsummitt/1439020815/).  :jam:
HURRAY!!!!!! YAY Slowhatch!!  :jumpy: also I was thinking if thats where the darn Taiko is I'll either be happy or  :pull
I'm kind of rooting for the Taiko to show up in Alaska.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 09, 2008, 09:54:30 PM
Hey guys~~ I got some info on the jeep
I found a jeep show in Jiji township in Nantou County, which is in the middle of Taiwan

Jiji is a small township with a famous old train station, it take a bout 1.5 hours from High Speed Railway Taichung by train
and the show is just next to the train station
Google map http://maps.google.com.tw/maps?f=q&hl=zh-TW&geocode=&q=%E5%8D%97%E6%8A%95%E7%B8%A3%E9%9B%86%E9%9B%86%E9%8E%AE%E9%9B%86%E9%B9%BF%E8%B7%AF&sll=24.974305,121.527872&sspn=0.009162,0.018818&ie=UTF8&ll=23.826906,120.78794&spn=0.009245,0.018818&z=16&om=1 (http://maps.google.com.tw/maps?f=q&hl=zh-TW&geocode=&q=%E5%8D%97%E6%8A%95%E7%B8%A3%E9%9B%86%E9%9B%86%E9%8E%AE%E9%9B%86%E9%B9%BF%E8%B7%AF&sll=24.974305,121.527872&sspn=0.009162,0.018818&ie=UTF8&ll=23.826906,120.78794&spn=0.009245,0.018818&z=16&om=1)

here's the website of the show http://www.ogsppg.com.tw/tour_data.asp?hidID=1556 (http://www.ogsppg.com.tw/tour_data.asp?hidID=1556)
and some extra pictures matching the promo film


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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 09, 2008, 09:57:44 PM
Great find, jason!  :yess: :yess: :yess: And welcome to the forum!  :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 09:58:27 PM
omg GREAT find jason! I've been looking forever!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 09:59:01 PM
oh GOOD JOB!! jasonk32!! :wohoo:

You may have just saved puddin's sanity! :yess:

:welcome2:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 09, 2008, 10:01:19 PM
Now if puddin can only find where the Taiko is, her job for this leg would be complete. ;D

*hopes for Taiko in Alaska*
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2008, 10:03:12 PM
Great job, Jason!  :jumpy:


Here's Ximending (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximending) with the Partyworld in the background. Apparently the whole building is devoted to private karaoke booths.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 10:03:44 PM
Okay --I can't read a word! :lol:  What's it for? Is it like an amusement park ride?

DID all the pretty pictures disappear for everybody or just me? ???
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 09, 2008, 10:09:08 PM
As they were in Ximending at night, it probably means that they arrive at Taipei first then travel by train to the south in the afternoon and have to go back to Taipei later for the pit stop, right?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 10:15:08 PM
I think I love you Jason  :jumpy: :wohoo: ! Good JOB!!!  :jumpy:

threadjack, Happy Birthday peach (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/bdayparty2.gif) :-*
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Jiji stunt village

The jeep 阿諾" given name Wang Pinghsi, is the family background from Chushan chu-shan's vehicle race skilled person, to various types special vehicles, the locomotive light airliner, the airplane and so on all for is even familiar, and can 夠 the control freely. Most has by the light airliner and the jeep stunt represents. The light airliner once created the national four item of records until now still nobody to be able to compare. Jeep 阿諾 not merely in stunt outstanding, very was also astonishing in the martial arts attainments, is skilled in the Western boxing and once to practice Chinese martial arts, Judo, Tae Kwon Do and karate and so on, therefore this strongly emitted the head the stunt seed, under the difficult exhausted environment, resolved to have to struggle a tone for the Chinese, lets time which the people the applause also promising person on one's own side resounded.

For several years he spends the number surely, grows out of nothing, completely does not have any high tech instrument to be possible to supply the simulation test, to the indigenous method practices the steel the way, turns own the test piece, several border on the life and death edge moment, overcomes the innumerable twists and turns and the barrier by reason of the will. Finally originally creates in the world 絕 not to have only has "the jeep stunt", now the stunt attainments may say already reaches the mountain peak. This time creates entire world record into him this life the strongest wish, if can like hope, says regarding a successful stunt, represents without doubt is the biggest affirmation and the glory.

In stunt village, active content unusual stimulating, for example: 1. With irresistible force, 2 jeeps balances lift, 3 surmounting happy jolt the peak, 4. Rides a horse the archery, 5. Jeep submarine, 6. amphibious hovercrafts, 7. stunts sand beaches vehicle, 8. perceptions and warm time and so on, rich is splendid.

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 09, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
Okay --I can't read a word! :lol:  What's it for? Is it like an amusement park ride?

DID all the pretty pictures disappear for everybody or just me? ???
yes, it's something like a amusement park...but mainly jeep tricks
the website is dead, i'll paste them again
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 10:28:20 PM
You could attach them Jason  :keeta:

Additional Options...

And while I'm here, ahem, see I told you it was sort of like the CHIP's set, aka stuntment type dealio :D

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 09, 2008, 10:32:05 PM
You could attach them Jason  :keeta:

Additional Options...

And while I'm here, ahem, see I told you it was sort of like the CHIP's set, aka stuntment type dealio :D
DONE~ thanks for the help~  ;D

btw, whats the Taiko you're talking about??
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
Wonderful pictures Jason! No doubts this is it  :yess:

Taiko picture here (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1528/23oct00092ir9.jpg) in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13733.msg239944.html#msg239944) :yaya:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
I honestly don't think we ever would have found that place without your help Jason,searching I still can't find it  :lol:

Good job everyone !!  :keeta:

 

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8630/mrtjr9.jpg)

Slowhatch's floor plan (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Taipei_Main_Station_Floor_Map.gif) works well enough! While Banciao's connection between the train and subway lines is on the ground floor and B1, Taipei Main Station's connection hall is on B3, one floor below the rail lines on B2. This means TK and Rachel are boarding a high-speed train from the terminus station of Taipei, and are definitely leaving the city for the south.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif/341px-TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif)

But where to? It's got to be far enough, at least beyond Hsinchu, to make the trip worthwhile... (Buses and local trains cover that distance just as easily.)
Taichung might be another possibility; the THSR (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/travel/stations.asp) site has virtual tours, and that's the closest platform match I've found.
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45787;image)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 09, 2008, 11:28:36 PM
puddin I picked the WORST week to try and help find locations LMAO -- first that red door and then the jeep crap. Thank god for Jason.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 10, 2008, 12:35:00 AM
:jumpy: From newbie genie007  who is having problems posting.

journey of 100,000 rocks... http://travellingrob.blogspot.com/2006_01_08_archive.html

the rock path is called health trail :tup:, and if the TKR really went to Dr. Sun memorial hall, it must be the speedbup!
the trail is 120 meters in length (about 130 yards), here's the website in english http://www.yatsen.gov.tw/en/content.php?id=52 (http://www.yatsen.gov.tw/en/content.php?id=52)
it sure will cost them some time :groan:, but if they can bear the pain, it's just a football court  :jumpy:
the hall is on the east side of Taipei, but it's easy to get there by MRT blue line from either Taipei main station or Ximen

did anyone figure out sny clue for detour yet?

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 10, 2008, 12:47:55 AM
The health trail could be a detour option Jason, but since we only see TK & Rachel doing it maybe they are trying to trick us into thinking its the Speed-Bump? "I dunno" , I haven't seen any sign either way or anything else that looks like the Detour. All the pictures you see posted though out this thread is what we have for now, but we had a good night so I'm not complaining  :yess:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 10, 2008, 01:42:36 AM
:duno: Hmm... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqjUjCrjYU8&feature=related) (Start at 1:20...)

It's definitely quick enough to be a Speed Bump - ten minutes tops?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 10, 2008, 08:00:38 AM
Hi.  ;D

 i dug around a little further with the known time of nick&Don's appearance at TAIPEI HSR station. For now this
could either mean that they arrived at the station at 16:57 (~5pm) or departed at that time.

 If they were departing at that time, I think they could very well be behind the other teams..
Because from Taipei station to Taichung station it is approximately 156 Km (noted on website). With high speed train travelling at around 280+KM/H they should get to Taichung by at least 5:35pm (assuming train left at about 5pm)

 From Taichung station to Jiji township, like Jason had mentioned, it takes about 1.5 hours by train (maybe about 1 hour by taxi).
Now this means that they would be at the 'jeep testing facility' by at least 6:30pm. Now sunset at central Taiwan is approximately 6:40 PM around the following days.

Date              Sunrise  Sunset   This day Difference Time Altitude Distance
28 Jul 2007  5:19 AM  6:41 PM  13h 22m 14s − 0m 58s 12:00 Noon 84.0°  151.907
29 Jul 2007  5:19 AM  6:40 PM  13h 21m 14s − 1m 00s 12:00 Noon 83.8°  151.891
30 Jul 2007  5:20 AM  6:40 PM  13h 20m 13s − 1m 01s 12:00 Noon 83.6°  151.874
31 Jul 2007  5:20 AM  6:39 PM  13h 19m 11s − 1m 02s 12:00 Noon 83.3°  151.857

 This would mean that they would have performed the task under a dark sky.. we know Rach, nate and ron did it under considerable amount
of light. This would mean N&D are way behind and could be eliminated. BUT, on the other hand it could very likely have been that they
ARRIVED back at Taipei station at 4:57 pm. However, I am suspecting that my initial idea was right since they have not shown any clips (Unless I have missed it!??) with nick&don at the 4WD jeep site, in an attempt to hide that they are somewhat behind by the obvious differences in time.
 
 Is it just me or does the chance of an intersection to occur at the Taipei 101 (as strongly suggested by our spoiler) just become less likely the more we look into the previews?

As of the location  that Nate&Jen had been arguing on (I placedmarked it on my map), whilst also trying to find a taxi, in the previews, DIRECTLY underneath them is a normal train subway station. Were they using the normal train too?

Just to put everything into perspective, I made this map and thought it might be worthwhile sharing....

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=114851506520966174311.0004435d735fe9af67f64&z=8&om=1

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 10, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
Oceangreen, I found detailed schedules for Taiwan Railway Administration for 2 hour trips between Taipei and Taichung. I have also found sketchy information indicating that Taiwan High Speed Rail Corp. began service in Jjan. 2007 and runs every 30 minutes from Taipei to Zuoying. Most of those should stop at Taichung, the halfway point on that line. Since the total line time is 100 minutes on the fastest, your estimate of 37 minutes to Taichung might be slightly low by about at least 13 minutes, which is not far off. If I find the actual schedule, I will report it.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 10, 2008, 09:48:00 AM
Here's the timetable (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/ticketing/timetable.asp), listing the trip from Taipei to Taichung as 53 minutes. According to the schedule, a 16:57 arrival at Taichung or Taipei would mean a 16:00 departure from the other station...

Note: All trains wil stop at Taichung.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 10, 2008, 10:03:39 AM
Actually there was a schedule change of the high speed train effective from 27 July 2007 (the exact date of this leg), you can find the exact timetable at that time from this link:

http://www.thsrc.com.tw/download/tw/file/timetable_070727_en.pdf

If the pic showing Nicolas/Donald at 16:57 was them boarding the train to Taichung, then they probably took Train no. 129 which departed at 17:00 and arrived at 17:52

Also, judging that Nathan/Jennifer and TK/Rachel were at different locations at night, it may be possible that they did the detour after coming back from Taichung. Maybe one task was the stone walk and the other was at Ximending, otherwise Ximending may be just for a place of route marker.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 10, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
I got more stuff about the jeep stunt, thanks for a reality fan "buff" in Taiwan  :tup:

http://www.wts.com.tw/temp/jeepano/ (http://www.wts.com.tw/temp/jeepano/)  Official website of Jeep Arnold

click on the second icon on the left, and you can view all the stunts they have in the second block
click on those pictures and there's a vedio, enjoy it~

(if the link above came out to be a list of websites, please click number 86)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 10, 2008, 11:07:06 AM
as crappy as they are , better than nothing!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0017.jpg)

When I watched this scene in the clip, it seems that there's a shop on the left with a name "La Villa", I tried to find it on google, and I find this address: 2/F, No.18 Alley 286, 3rd Blvd Roosevelt‎ Road, Gongguan, Taipei (台北市公館羅斯福路3段286巷18號2樓) and that shop is a hair salon.

If that is true, I would be happy because that area is Gong Guan Night Market, where there are many food stalls, so we may finally have a food task in Taiwan!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 10, 2008, 11:16:05 AM
I got more stuff about the jeep stunt, thanks for a reality fan "buff" in Taiwan  :tup:

http://www.wts.com.tw/temp/jeepano/ (http://www.wts.com.tw/temp/jeepano/)  Official website of Jeep Arnold

click on the second icon on the left, and you can view all the stunts they have in the second block
click on those pictures and there's a vedio, enjoy it~

(if the link above came out to be a list of websites, please click number 86)

wow, all the stunts look really fun  :jumpy:, especially the jeep going underwater, I want to try it too!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 10, 2008, 11:19:21 AM
Thanks, Jason, great stuff.  :yess: Like Puddin said, we would have never found this with regular searching.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 10, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
When I watched this scene in the clip, it seems that there's a shop on the left with a name "La Villa", I tried to find it on google, and I find this address: 2/F, No.18 Alley 286, 3rd Blvd Roosevelt‎ Road, Gongguan, Taipei (台北市公館羅斯福路3段286巷18號2樓) and that shop is a hair salon.

i don't remember any streets looks like that near that area... :duno:
i'll check it out tomorrow, it's near our campus
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 10, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
Oh it is La Villa, good job serendipity!! and thank you Jason, we can't get enough of that place :keeta:
welcome Oceangreen, nice detective work :thankyou:

I suppose Jen & Nathan could be fighting over which detour task to take at night in Ximending because shes yelling for him to make a decision. A food task would be  :yess:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 10, 2008, 04:46:11 PM
I think I love you Jason  :jumpy: :wohoo: ! Good JOB!!!  :jumpy:

threadjack, Happy Birthday peach (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/bdayparty2.gif) :-*

I'm jealous :-[
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: stayhungry on January 10, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
So you guys think Nick and Don will be eliminated or Ron and Christina????????
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 10, 2008, 05:19:42 PM
Ron and Christina -- Nick and Don have been rumored to be in the F3 for a very long time now.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: stayhungry on January 10, 2008, 05:21:07 PM
THanks a bunch!  I usually dont get replies, thanks
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 10, 2008, 05:38:08 PM
I still think Ron & Christina will make the Final 3, Stayhungry.  Nicholas & Donald were seen in Alaska, and while that wasn't seen as a genuine spoiler at first, most people now think they'll make the Final 3.  Since T.K. & Rachel have the Speed Bump (and a three-hour deficit to make up), I think they'll be the next team out.  As I'm a Ron & Christina fan, I freely admit that maybe I'm indulging in wishful thinking by thinking that they survive and make the Final 3; but I'm willing to take the chance and say that Ron & Christina make it to the Final 3 and T.K. & Rachel are eliminated.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 10, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Theres always that chance that the Nick & Don sighting was made up based on reading the spoiler boards, it was posted in October, well after the Alaska location was spoiled by Colby with solid evidence posted by peach, or it could be they are running as decoys? I guess it all depends on whether or not you believe that Alaska is End City? but who am I to say? I wasn't there.
I just can't wrap my brain around Christina & Ron being eliminated but then again I thought for sure Romber would win TAR7 even with the Ucheena & Joyce betting spoiler so what do I know :P.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 10, 2008, 06:18:54 PM
Quote
but then again I thought for sure Romber would win TAR7 even with the Ucheena & Joyce betting spoiler so what do I know .

Those were dark days puddin. Needless to say Romber on TAR was my first "Dustin and Kandice like obsession" and I was so convinced that they'd win that I was waiting for Rob and Amber's taxi cap to come rolling up while Uchenna and Joyce tried to make up the money LMAO

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 10, 2008, 08:47:58 PM
gosh I can never find the time to post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway teams are heading to Taiwan were they go to Taipei 101

- Nate and Jenn say "Wish the asians could see this??

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 10, 2008, 09:06:28 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Rachel has a yellow tank top on while doing the jeep emersion stunt, and then has a gray tee shirt on while running across the stones.  She had time to change somewhere: perhaps she just got too wet and changed her shirt but not her shorts.  Anyways, it certainly makes it look that the stone run comes after the jeeps.  And, of course, it is now night time.  So it looks like a long day from Osaka to the Taiwan pit stop.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 10, 2008, 10:26:34 PM
yeh, gingerman.

 It's also the case with Ron as he and Chris headed out of the car park. As of Nate, you would assume that
he had also changed clothes as we saw that he was immersed in the water.
 
The important thing to note is that the clothes that they wore on the task at Jiji township is the same as the one
back in the airport and also in TK&Rach's case on the train station at TAIPEI heading to Taichung: which means that teams most likely have headed directly to do the jeep tasks just about their arrival at TAIPEI.

 Ron: light blue shirt with 'who's your daddy' sign (airport+inside the jeep) /SWITCHED TO/ dark blue shirt (jeep carpark+shops at night)

 Rach: yellow (airport+taipei station) /SWITCHED TO/ grey (barefoot stone walk)

 Nic or Don: not sure for now!

 It would make sense that teams headed DIRECTLY to JIJI township (?after they pick up clue at Taipei 101?) for the task as it would give them plenty of time to come back and do the tasks/detour/speed bump at the night in TAIPEI. This is of course assuming that they arrived before or around 12 noon in Taipei, with an estimated time of 6 hours to get to JIJI township (about 2.5 hours) , do the jeep task (another 1hr) and come back to Taipei (another 2.5hr). Hence coming back to Taipei at around 6pm is just in time for sunset (6:40pm), which explains for their appearance at Taipei during the night.

 It would also make sense that the producers would set the task at Jiji township towards the beginning of the leg, towards midday so that teams wouldn't be strangled in the NIGHT at the remote location if they were to have trouble doing the task.. or getting to/from the town. (noting that Jiji township is a good 200KM by HSR+normal train from Taipei).

   This, however, does not go in harmony with Nic&Don's departure time from the THSR station. PERHAPS they were done already by 4:57pm???? (their body language suggests that they were entering the train though, which is headed southbound!?) If they were leaving for JIJI township at 4:57, they wouldn't be back at Taipei by about 11pm. ( BTW - I wouldn't be surprised if the 'amusement park' had already closed, hence having to wait until the next day by the time they got there). :meanwhile all the other teams are seen in TAIPEI streets, most likely before 11pm, doing either tasks(T&R) or just random things(R&C + N&J).

 I think this next leg is one roller-coaster!!, I can't wait to see for myself.   

My guess is for this leg:

 1st. N&J
 2nd. R&C
 3rd. T&R

 4th. Nic&Don
   

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 11, 2008, 02:04:25 AM
About this: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0015.jpg) The Umeda Sky tower (http://gardkarlsen.com/japan/Umeda_Sky_Building_Osaka.jpg) in Osaka has a glass elevator which offers the following view about halfway down (cap from video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw4KoU3musM&NR=1)). Just throwing out possibilities.

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 11, 2008, 03:20:18 AM
as crappy as they are , better than nothing!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0017.jpg)

When I watched this scene in the clip, it seems that there's a shop on the left with a name "La Villa", I tried to find it on google, and I find this address: 2/F, No.18 Alley 286, 3rd Blvd Roosevelt‎ Road, Gongguan, Taipei (台北市公館羅斯福路3段286巷18號2樓) and that shop is a hair salon.

If that is true, I would be happy because that area is Gong Guan Night Market, where there are many food stalls, so we may finally have a food task in Taiwan!

I found the place~~  :yess: :yess:

the first two pictures matching the vedio, the "Romance House" is a cloth store, and "La Villa" seems to have changed their sign  :duno:

i marked the position in the map, the area circled by blue line is the area of night market, so they definitely went to the night market
hoping for some FOOD CHALLANGES  :jumpy:


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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 11, 2008, 04:26:32 AM
Wow!! great find!!! :jumpy:

 Soon we won't even have to watch the episode at all!! (juzz kidding!)  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 11, 2008, 04:39:24 AM
 Hey Jason, would you know what that green line along the major road across from this place represent?
 Is it like reserved bus lanes? I'm not very familiar with google maps..

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 11, 2008, 04:51:39 AM
Hey Jason, would you know what that green line along the major road across from this place represent?
 Is it like reserved bus lanes? I'm not very familiar with google maps..

it's MRT green line, and MRT Gongguan station is at the middle of the map right next to the "9" in blue triangle
http://home.trtc.com.tw/INFO92/Lmap.asp?SID=039 (http://home.trtc.com.tw/INFO92/Lmap.asp?SID=039)
in this map, La Villa is at the park near exit 4, where the number 316 is

it seems this is a possible task for detour, with Ximending as the other choice
Gongguan might be a food task and Ximending be a shopping task i guess  :duno:
(Ximending is famous for shopping and the streets are confusing)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: patlini on January 11, 2008, 07:12:57 AM
Jason and Ocean

I have really enjoyed reading your updates

thanks so much  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
Good job Jason  :jumpy:
I have a clip coming of the Roadblock, not much but its something.

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 10:43:31 AM
Pitstop! we can find this! They look very happy!

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 11, 2008, 10:55:35 AM
I got it!

It's at the CKS Memorial (CKS = Chiang Kai-Shek)

Picasa ref (http://picasaweb.google.com/Qwennigan/Taiwan2007/photo#5116544893976769234)

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 11:00:56 AM
Record fast Chateau, good job!  :yess:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/Chiang20Kai-Shek20Memorial20Hall20T.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2008, 11:02:48 AM
So you guys think Nick and Don will be eliminated or Ron and Christina????????
Ron and Christina -- Nick and Don have been rumored to be in the F3 for a very long time now.

With all the new info on this leg, I think our early supposition of a Ron/Christina elimination may be wrong. Truly it is anyone's ballgame at this point and anyone of the 4 could be eliminated. TK and Rachel do have a huge time difference to overcome.


Wow! Lots of new info coming out--great job to all our new posters for the great detecting! YAY Chateau!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 11, 2008, 11:18:06 AM
Thanks to the overcast the only time-of-day information I can find is from this shot which has a light on.  It's a weak suggestion that it is near the end of daylight.   :(

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/11Jan0009.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 11:20:48 AM
Well the darn thing is taking forever to upload~

When ready


Online Videos by Veoh.com
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 11:37:01 AM
So fat chance for any times Chateau  :'(

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0051.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/07Jan0050.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/11Jan0028.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 11, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
jasonk32, thanks for verifying my suggestion! Good job!  :jumpy:
I am very excited that I could locate that place by the small details in the clip! Looking forward to the food challenge!!!  :yess: Jason, do you have any ideas what kind of food the producers would make them eat?

It seems clear that the flow of the next leg will be:
1. Taipei 101 for first clue
2. Roadblock in Jiji Town
3. Detour in Taipei at night (probably Speed bump here)
4. Pit stop at CKS Memorial

The scene showing Nicolas/Donald (Don with orange T-shirt) at train station at 16:57 is clearly them boarding train in Taipei before roadblock, because in one pic we can see Donald has changed his T-shirt (from orange to black), so he must be the one doing roadblock and changed his shirt afterwards.

Since the source said that the teams arrived at Taipei 101 at noon, and we see all teams seem arrving Jiji in late afternoon, I suspect there would be some tasks for them before heading to roadblock. If this leg is very long, I think that would give Ronald/Christina a huge advantage since they can speak the language, that is crucial if they have to navigate in the streets in Taiwan, because it is very confusing in my opinion.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gator27 on January 11, 2008, 01:06:30 PM
One thing that strikes me with puddin's awesome clips  :tup:is that the fact that Ron/Christina are the only team doing the Roadblock.

Are they ahead? Behind?  Or do the other teams have to wait somewhere else?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 11, 2008, 01:08:55 PM
Christina seems really happy in that clip so I would guess that they are ahead.
I just can't see them being eliminated in this episode.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 11, 2008, 02:11:32 PM
So that means that the people doing the roadblock are:

Ron/Chris ---Ron

Nick/Don ---Don

Nate/Jen ---Nate

Tk/Rachel --- Rachel (Have they caught up? I think I see them at the airport in the preview where he says "time to start sweating", but did they catch the same flight as the others?)

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Don would take the roadblock since their new strategy (as said in the web clips) is to let Nick do the physical tasks and have Don do the tasks that simply need someone to sit through it. Looking forward to what Don has to say during the roadblock this Sunday.  :yess: :jam:   :jumpy: :wohoo:

It it looking bad for them(Nick/Don)? Is it likely they're behind in this episode again? Is there any chance (despite the rumors) that Nate and Jen get eliminated in this episode? I'm crossing my fingers... :angel:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 02:27:50 PM
Rachel~ (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0064.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 11, 2008, 03:18:06 PM
Correct this old gizzer if I am wrong:

We see Ron, Nate and Rachel doing the roadblock in daylight.  We do not see Don or Nick doing the roadblock

If Don and Nick are just boarding the train in Taipai at 4:57 (train probably leaves at 5:00) and it takes 2.5 hours to reach Jiji town, then it would be nightfall when they do the roadblock since the sun sets at 6:40. And that is probably why they are not seen doing the roadblock, this this would be a dead giveaway that Don and Nick are dead.

All this seems to indicate that somewhere Don and Nick fall way behind the other teams, even behind TK and Rachel.  Did they get a penalty?  Did they get lost again?  Did they miss the plane for some reason?

Lots of questions and no answers.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 11, 2008, 03:25:12 PM
That is very odd. In the commercial preview, Nick says: "It's On" and then smiles while they're in line at the airport, so that must mean that they have not yet made a mistake/fallen behind yet . And also, in the episode preview, Nick said: "No competitors left in the game, just a bunch of pansies." and we can see he's inside a cab and it's daylight outside (seems like afternoon or noon), so they couldn't of gotten lost before the airport? That must mean they got a bad flight again and fallen behind (since Rachel and TK could not possibly have beaten them to the airport)? Or that they had trouble getting directions to the train station?  :groan:

Dammit...  :'( Although... They might not be thattt far behind... It might be close to dusk when Ron and Chris did the roadblock.

And how do we know that Rachel is doing the roadblock while it's daytime? Isn't the picture in yellow? Maybe the editors purposely did that in the preview so that we couldn't know what time it was. Or am I missing something again...?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 11, 2008, 06:17:32 PM
Or there is a possibility that CBS is playing tricks, since they can't show everything in the preview? Right????  :'(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 11, 2008, 06:26:16 PM
exactly lol
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 11, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
Pitstop! we can find this! They look very happy!

Although this isn't conclusive proof that Ron & Christina survive this leg, the photo gives me even more hope that they in fact do!  And I guess if that happens -- as I hope -- then I can say to all those who assumed that Ron & Christina are eliminated in Taiwan:  "You were saying, guys?"   :lol3:

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 11, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
A 24 Hour Pitstop due to flight Facts like with Nicolas and Donald!!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 07:52:33 PM
Taichung might be another possibility; the THSR (http://www.thsrc.com.tw/en/travel/stations.asp) site has virtual tours, and that's the closest platform match I've found.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45787;image)

A few better frames  :tup: ~

(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/40459/2004033382796386823_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004033382796386823)(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/40459/2004058914818324895_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004058914818324895)(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/41028/2004068538308977316_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004068538308977316)(http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/40196/2004066404829515549_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004066404829515549)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 11, 2008, 08:35:05 PM
uh oh... So does that mean Nick And Don enter the train at 4:57pm and exit the train in those pictures?If so, it's not looking good for them.

Either that, or CBS is playing tricks with the cameras and it's actually them LEAVING at 4:57pm and that the clip from the previews is the same as the these pictures (them exiting the train). That, or CBS maybe just put that clip in there and it isn't even part of the episode.  (:;)

 :keeta: So there's hope for them. Yay! =)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 11, 2008, 08:40:05 PM
you are right Oliver there is still substancial hope for them but I still find it to be rather slim so does anyone know what happened to the whole Ron and Christina ELIMINATION thing I thought that was something we thought from the start??
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 11, 2008, 10:02:25 PM
A 24 Hour Pitstop due to flight Facts like with Nicolas and Donald!!!

Hey, Kiwi Jay. What is your proof? Since it makes no sense given the pitstop start times in the 7pm to 11pm range and the need of the first 3 teams(TK&Rachel not part of this party) to be in Taipei as close to noon as possible, I think you are DEAD WRONG.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 11, 2008, 10:24:04 PM
you are right Oliver there is still substancial hope for them but I still find it to be rather slim so does anyone know what happened to the whole Ron and Christina ELIMINATION thing I thought that was something we thought from the start??

Anything can happen in the next episode. We don't know who's going to be eliminated and can only guess with the clues we have. So we can't really say Nick and Don are quite hopeless next leg. We don't know for sure if our clues are solid (unless I'm missing something again... :groan:).
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 11, 2008, 10:26:26 PM
Kiwi Jay - it was thought that Ron and Chris were eliminated at F4 because we knew based on a spoiler that the other three teams made it to Taiwan -- but now that we also know that Ron and Chris make it to Taiwan it's anybodies game.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 10:33:33 PM
:badhorse:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 11, 2008, 10:55:33 PM
 :didimiss: Sorry if I am being dense, but can someone point me to the evidence that the pic of Don and Nic at the train station at 16:57 is them getting ON the train rather than OFF, or is it just an assumption that is being made at this point due to the fact that there is a scheduled train that leaves the station at 17:00? :ty3:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 11, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
About this: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0015.jpg) The Umeda Sky tower (http://gardkarlsen.com/japan/Umeda_Sky_Building_Osaka.jpg) in Osaka has a glass elevator which offers the following view about halfway down (cap from video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw4KoU3musM&NR=1)). Just throwing out possibilities. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45821;image)
I like Slowhatch, this could be how Rachel & TK catch up, and I think they do as well as make the flight to Taipei with the other teams.  :tup:
as far as I can tell these are the hours of operation : The Umeda Sky Building is open from 10:00 am to 10:30 pm(admission until 10:00pm) :hides .

( I'll be back Mrs Shrek  :waves: )
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: aaron1262 on January 11, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
uh oh... So does that mean Nick And Don enter the train at 4:57pm and exit the train in those pictures?If so, it's not looking good for them.

Either that, or CBS is playing tricks with the cameras and it's actually them LEAVING at 4:57pm and that the clip from the previews is the same as the these pictures (them exiting the train). That, or CBS maybe just put that clip in there and it isn't even part of the episode.  (:;)

 :keeta: So there's hope for them. Yay! =)

It looks like they are clearly getting off the train...according to the times we have it would not make sense that they would be getting back to Taipei at 4:57 as it's already been concluded that the teams arrive around noonish/early afternoon....not enough time to do the jeep thing.

they however could be arriving at the place where the jeep RB takes place....that makes sense.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: aaron1262 on January 12, 2008, 12:06:31 AM
About this: The Umeda Sky tower (http://gardkarlsen.com/japan/Umeda_Sky_Building_Osaka.jpg) in Osaka has a glass elevator which offers the following view about halfway down (cap from video)
I like Slowhatch, this could be how Rachel & TK catch up, and I think they do as well as make the flight to Taipei with the other teams.  :tup:
as far as I can tell these are the hours of operation : The Umeda Sky Building is open from 10:00 am to 10:30 pm(admission until 10:00pm) :hides .

( I'll be back Mrs Shrek  :waves: )


This could be..It makes logical sense...
If the first two teams arrived osaka around 6-8 PM...typical pit stop releases them at 6-8AM? They get to the tower....have to wait till it opens at 10...head to airport. Get a flight which gets there mid afternoon?
 Then somehow Tk/R catch a different flight to Taipei.
ANyways about the flights...
It is clear that R/C N/J arrive at the airport around the same time, but TK/R arrive with the other teams..thus the immigration line in the commercial. I believe this is where someone says the quote "Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You" as they have caught up.


Another theory is that all the teams went straight to the airport...had to get a connection through another city because it was still too early for the direct flights. The 3 hours allowed Tk/R to get the direct flight. OTher teams Possibly caught a flight to Tokyo then were able to catch the 9-10AM flights to TPE? This theory really depends what time the teams got released from the pitstop in osaka.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 12, 2008, 12:10:45 AM
You never know apskip but I am doubting myself too I think different too!!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 12:44:10 AM
This is for Mrs. Shrek, I think Oceangreen has said it the best.

Hi.  ;D

 i dug around a little further with the known time of nick&Don's appearance at TAIPEI HSR station. For now this
could either mean that they arrived at the station at 16:57 (~5pm) or departed at that time.

 If they were departing at that time, I think they could very well be behind the other teams..
Because from Taipei station to Taichung station it is approximately 156 Km (noted on website). With high speed train travelling at around 280+KM/H they should get to Taichung by at least 5:35pm (assuming train left at about 5pm)

 From Taichung station to Jiji township, like Jason had mentioned, it takes about 1.5 hours by train (maybe about 1 hour by taxi).
Now this means that they would be at the 'jeep testing facility' by at least 6:30pm. Now sunset at central Taiwan is approximately 6:40 PM around the following days.

Date              Sunrise  Sunset   This day Difference Time Altitude Distance
28 Jul 2007  5:19 AM  6:41 PM  13h 22m 14s − 0m 58s 12:00 Noon 84.0°  151.907
29 Jul 2007  5:19 AM  6:40 PM  13h 21m 14s − 1m 00s 12:00 Noon 83.8°  151.891
30 Jul 2007  5:20 AM  6:40 PM  13h 20m 13s − 1m 01s 12:00 Noon 83.6°  151.874
31 Jul 2007  5:20 AM  6:39 PM  13h 19m 11s − 1m 02s 12:00 Noon 83.3°  151.857

 This would mean that they would have performed the task under a dark sky.. we know Rach, nate and ron did it under considerable amount
of light. This would mean N&D are way behind and could be eliminated. BUT, on the other hand it could very likely have been that they
ARRIVED back at Taipei station at 4:57 pm. However, I am suspecting that my initial idea was right since they have not shown any clips (Unless I have missed it!??) with nick&don at the 4WD jeep site, in an attempt to hide that they are somewhat behind by the obvious differences in time.
 
 Is it just me or does the chance of an intersection to occur at the Taipei 101 (as strongly suggested by our spoiler) just become less likely the more we look into the previews?

As of the location  that Nate&Jen had been arguing on (I placedmarked it on my map), whilst also trying to find a taxi, in the previews, DIRECTLY underneath them is a normal train subway station. Were they using the normal train too?

Just to put everything into perspective, I made this map and thought it might be worthwhile sharing....

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=114851506520966174311.0004435d735fe9af67f64&z=8&om=1



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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 01:17:43 AM
I'll throw this in, I know its not a very good picture but it looks like Don in his solid color shirt (eta: Nope its orange & Blue!), Nic carrying his backpack etc.

Note the lights/dots -- maybe we can find this perhaps around Ximending?

ETA: Nevermind!! I guess its Taoyuan International afterall? :duh:

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: serendipity on January 12, 2008, 02:23:11 AM
16:57
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0065.jpg)

This doesn't look like Taichung train station when compared with the pic posted by slowhatch because Taichung station looks like an open-air one while this one is not, so I still believe this is Taipei station.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: jasonk32 on January 12, 2008, 02:28:16 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45830)

in the pic, Nick&Don is at Taipei station 16:57   Ref. for Taipei station http://www.pixnet.net/photo/ice2006/47406686 (http://www.pixnet.net/photo/ice2006/47406686)

i've tried to find the time table for high speed railway schedule in Jan.2007 (i tried my best but it still might be wrong :'()
Taipei ---> Taichung                      Taichung ---->  Taipei
1700          1752                           1536                 1642
1706          1806                            1600                 1706

they can't be taking the train ariving at 1706, so if they were arriving at Taipei in the pic, aren't they too slow to get off the train??  :duno:

guess if the time table is correct, then they will be leaving Taipei in the pic, and arriving at Taichung in the next pic

(http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/40196/2004066404829515549_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004066404829515549)
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if these are correct, they'd be way behind other teams.....
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 12, 2008, 02:37:11 AM
This is for Mrs. Shrek, I think Oceangreen has said it the best.

:dancer: :bow: :thankyou: Thanks for finding it for me
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 12, 2008, 02:46:32 AM
I thought so!! Nicolas and Donald are a considerable amount of time behind the teams and also the

phrase "Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You" comes from Jennifer what is she referring to at that

point if there is an intersection on this leg maybe Nicolas and Donald catch up to them??

Kiwi
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gator27 on January 12, 2008, 06:35:26 AM
 :pull :pull :pull

In posts #231 and #245 we NicK with 2 backpacks (Don - 0) exiting a train.  I cannot read the clock in the background.

In post #243 we see Nick and Don each with a backpack walking parallel to a train at 16:57 (I can read that clock  :jumpy:)  To me this picture neither indites Nick/Don for getting on nor off a train.

In post #244 we see Nick with 2 backpacks (Don - 0) running through the station.

As I type, I become more confused.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 12, 2008, 07:26:11 AM
I guess the current consensus is #244 = Taoyuan Intl Airport, #245 = Taipei Main Station, and #243 = Taichung Train Station?

Am I right? :duno:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 12, 2008, 09:52:30 AM
Wow, they have given us just about too much to almost have a feel of what to expect in this coming episode havent they?  :yess:
 
 As for the 'RUMOUR' that Nate and Jen are eliminated in this coming leg, (to which I would really LOVE to see for the sake of further prooving that a spoiler may not be accurate!) But unfortunately I have to believe, that based on their youthful advantage over the other teams, final adrenaline and determination (fueled by their constant failure to come 1st) will help them overcome their differences and settle their annoying 'BICKERINGness' to the point where they are 'lucky' enough to bump up as team number one, sadly on the final leg.  :'(

 I have nothing against Jen or Nate. I just don't think that they both portray an ideal or succesful individual, based upon their lack of mutual respect for each other, to claim the gold prize. I would've prefered to see TK&Rachel, Gosh they are so humble.. and loving to each other, or even Ron&Chris and Nic&Don to have won INSTEAD. I think it will be a 'shameful' ending to what I believe has been an awesome season.
 
 As of objective analysis:

So far, the clip of the roadblock with Ron and Christina seems to recollect Christina's victorious smile as we saw in Dubrovnik; particularly when she was reaasured that they were team 1st. whilst cheering for her dad at the stone wall renovation roadblock. Somehow I suspect that they are the first team to complete the roadblock.. but at this point nobody can guess for sure.

 It seems about right that Nick and Don hasn't completed the roadblock upon their appearance at Taipei station at 4:57pm: in other words they were departing rather than arriving.

 I have nothing against N&D, I think the constantly released evidence speaks for itself; to which I think CBS has made a terrible mistake revealing to the public.  ;)

a) The timetable reveals that Nic and Don are 'most likely' getting ON rather than off the train adjacent to the right of the platform.

b) Looking at the pictures and comparing the ones with Don in the night (Ximending shopping district/' or maybe yaoyuan international' + running alongside Nick at the deserted streets at night) and at the morning (airport + taipei T.S. + Taichung T.S. ); it was ORANGE in the morning and dark greyish BLUE in the night. Which based on the necessity as demonstrated by other teams to change their clothes upon the completion of the jeep roadblock at JIJI township, we know that Don would've done the roadblock and had to have done the same upon completing it.
   SADLY, his shirt was still orange when he was at Taipei station at 4:57pm. Meaning he hadn't done the roadblock. They were obviously heading for JIJI township at that point!!! And they would've been doing the task in darkness, rather than daylight.

c) We know that the departure 'SOUTHBOUND' is at the platform to the right, where nic&Don are standing, as we saw TK&rachel enter the train on that platform. (this can be further confirmed by checking the map of Taipei HRS station). So why would they be running along the platform that stops the train heading for taichung if they had just arrived from taichung on the other platform?. That just doesn't make sense.

 Having had the color of Don's shirt confirm this, I can now list the following with great confidence:

Nic&Don

-Depart from Taipei at 5:00pm by THSR
-Arrive at Taichung station at 5:52pm
-By taxi or train they should arrive at the roadblock by at LEAST 7:00pm (DARK SKY)
-Looking at the brevity of the roadblock (10 min) upon Ron's attempt, I'd say that they are back at Taichung station by at least 8:20pm.
-And thus arrive at Taipei station by at least 9:10 pm.
-Which gives them enough time to get to the detours before the shops gets deserted, which we can see are not upon their sighting during the night at the shopping district.

 Knowing that the other three teams completed the roadblock during daylight, we can assume that the last out of the three leave JIJI township AT or BEFORE sunset. Sunset is at 6:40pm. So that team should arrive back at Taipei by at LEAST 8:40 pm. I still think that all (RACHEL,RON,NATE) were at the roadblock about an hour or more before sunset: Judging by how bright the sky was despite the heavy amount of clouds covering it. If this was true, it's safe to assume that the last team out of the three left JIJI  township at 5:40pm, and thus arrived at TAIPEI at 7:40pm.
 This would give a 1.5 hours gap between this team an Nic&DON, still not knowing how much gap towards the first team. But if this last team out of the three completed the roadblock just at sunset, they should just be 1/2 and hour ahead of Nic&Don. If this was Tk&Rachel, then Nic&Don could catch up if Tk&Rachel gets stuck half an hour slower in doing the tasks especially with their speed bump.

 Hence I don't know who might pull through IF that was the case. Otherwise Nic&Don are more than certainly out of top three. Hence 'rumours' about them running to the finish line is soooo busted. 

  I think the shot where Nic (holding the route clue nervously) and Don (alongside nic carrying nothing) are running confirms, by the amount of tension and stress that they have both projected, that they are aware of their prospective stance upon elimination. The deserted background in this clip looks like the gardens and trees that surrounds our Taiwanese pitstop, don't you think?  ;D   
 
As of Ron&Chris, we have really been underestimating them all this long. First we all doubted that they would ever come first in any legs. Then we thought that they would be last in Japan (they ironically came first instead), having to do the speed bump in Taiwan. Even in Italy or India despite strong rumours that Kynt&Vyxsin were having trouble. I honestly don't see how they couldn't come first again in Taiwan, (in finals we know they wont) they seem very positive and cohesive especially in the clip with Ron so co-operatively doing the roadblock. They also seem very succesful and satisfyied in that interview clip. They are a strong and cohesive team, most thanks to Christina for managing problems well. Even ones created by her own team member. (Princeton graduate... seriously)  :tup: And it seems ironic that despite almost half of that 'Taipei 101' spoiler being very unlikely, people still reckon that the other half would be dead right. I cannot wait to see it for myself. Ruling out the 'asian teams eliminated', which we know is so wrong, I am going to look at the coming progress of this team with great equality and optimism as I watch this Leg.
 
 Good luck everyone, hope your 'favourite' team wins this leg... and the final... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 12, 2008, 10:37:55 AM
I can't seem to find it on this thread, but has apskip or anyone else given us a rundown of possible fligts between Osaka and Taipei?  Direct or through Tokyo?  If teams arrive at the pitstop between 7PM and 11PM, and it is only a 12 hour pit stop, they would be leaving between 7AM and 11AM. And if they have to ride up the glass elevator in Osaka first, how do they catch flights that will get them to the 101 tower by noon  on July 27?????????
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 12, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
One more thing to add...

 If you look really closely at the colors + texture detail + shine of the 'GREEN' wrangler type jeep at the roadblock, they seem to VARY. PLEAZZZZ take close notice of what i'm about to say.

1. Look closely on the body color, tyre shine and also overall texture of color of the jeep BEFORE submersion in RON & CHRISTINA's roadblock PICTURES. Notice:

 +++ The body colour is OLIVE green, the tyres are clearly rubbery dry and the black exteriors seem to be unwetted. Also the chinese writing seems to be very clear on the front of jeep. The seat head is not shiny, nor is the fabric material that dark. If you can also pick up the sight of the woman driver's hair, they seem to be separated rather than bunched together by water moist.

2. Look closely at these features AFTER submersion at Ron's roadblock pictures. Notice the body is darker army green, chinese writing appears less defined due to the darker water moist body, seat head is very shiny, the seat fabric itself is darker grey (water moist obviously), The overall texture of jeep is shiny.

3. Compare The pictures of the jeep BEFORE subermission into water during BOTH NATHAN and RON's appearance at roadblock. notice that at RON's turn at the jeep, it is very dry, by analysing the specified details. Where at NATHAN's turn BEFORE submersion it seems to be very wet, like at RON's turn AFTER submersion.

 On a cloudy day like this, I wouldn't hesitate to say that a FULLY sumberged jeep wouldn't dry >> from how it looked as it came out of the water back into how DRY it looked before it was submerged, as RON was getting on it >> by AT LEAST 5 - 6 hours. I think it will stay moist for a long time in fact.

 SO, assuming that the jeep was the SAME, in both RON and NATHAN's go, that there wasn't a second one somewhere (I highly doubt). It prooves that RON was the first person to begin the task. And for all we know, the already sumberged condition of the jeep in NATHAN's go could've only been at it's second or third submerssion, but not the first for the day. This is good news so far for team R&C.

      
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 12, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
gingerman--go look in Timelines. We have been discussing this over there and the whole prob is that teams won't be able to make the most likely flights...

oceangreen--that is an excellent and informative analysis--thanks so much for doing all that!  I think you are prob right on the money...

The only things I have to add are re the "spoilers".

The Nick/Don evidence for final three was based on someone who claimed to have seen them in Anchorage. This could mean either that they were in Anchorage for a task or they could have been running decoy.  So that "spoiler" does not help us at all.

The Taipei 101"spoiler' may be all right or not--but we may have been  quick to read too much into it. He actually said that based on the comment from the blonde who reportedly said  "I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to a place like this" that he guessed that an Asian team was far behind or eliminated. But it could have just as easily been that that team was far ahead--it was our embracing of that idea that was the problem.

Every spoiler remains unknown until we see it aired.

And FWIW,  I think the outed team this week will be down to either Nich/Don or TK/Rachel (spec not spoiler :lol:!)  Maybe they did such a nice so-long-farewell clip on TK/Rachel LAST week in order to save time THIS week? And anytime CBS tries really hard to make us think one thing--like N/D in last place--you can almost guarantee that that will be a CBS smokescreen to draw our attention away from what really happens.

And we definitely seriously underestimated Ron/Christina--they have been doing a fabulous job!  Major kudos to them both.

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 11:32:58 AM
oceangreen--wrote
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As for the 'RUMOUR' that Nate and Jen are eliminated in this coming leg, (to which I would really LOVE to see for the sake of further prooving that a spoiler may not be accurate!) But unfortunately I have to believe, that based on their youthful advantage over the other teams, final adrenaline and determination (fueled by their constant failure to come 1st) will help them overcome their differences and settle their annoying 'BICKERINGness' to the point where they are 'lucky' enough to bump up as team number one, sadly on the final leg

Can you point us to that rumor please?
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I think the shot where Nic (holding the route clue nervously) and Don (alongside nic carrying nothing) are running confirms, by the amount of tension and stress that they have both projected, that they are aware of their prospective stance upon elimination. The deserted background in this clip looks like the gardens and trees that surrounds our Taiwanese pitstop, don't you think
 

Ah this is what I was trying to match up last night but with no luck, we need some night shots of the C.S.K. Memorial area ---
If I lighten this picture it doesn't help~



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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 12, 2008, 11:39:47 AM
Could that be them arriving at the jeep task?

Heee...I was rereading the thread looking for a new Jen/Nate rumor!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Mister RC on January 12, 2008, 11:57:07 AM
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And FWIW,  I think the outed team this week will be down to either Nich/Don or TK/Rachel (spec not spoiler !)

And my post is also a reply to what came in while I was typing this...

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Heee...I was rereading the thread looking for a new Jen/Nate rumor!

And here's another speculation: I now think that the outed team tomorrow could be Nate/Jen after all.  And now, what might be that rumor to their 4th-place finish:  I'm not disregarding what's been said about their performance (in fact, I've believed it all this time, now all but totally disagree, about 5 minutes ago), but they were just added to Chip & Kim's finale party in California.

It really isn't a "spoiler" of the race itself.  However, the final 3 have to be in New York for TES.  Whether they're at the afterparty there or not isn't a guarantee, but I can't imagine N/J partying on opposite ends of the country.  Of course, unless TES and the check presentation's in Los Angeles this time (which I used to think was the cast for fall seasons of Survivor until not too long ago).  However, if Phil is indeed slated to be in NYC next week, I can't imagine that. 

Then again, they could fly the Final 3 back after they party into TES like was done for Todd and Courtney for Survivor.  Which, again is unlikely because CBS really doesn't give the same treatment for TAR as is does for Survivor, IMO.  So, Chip would have to fly them back himself, and, unlike Tyler/James, Rob/Kim, and Lyn/Karlyn, they (this year's Final Three) actually accepted his favor.


Anyway, that's that.  However, I love how Ron/Christina are back in this, and how it now could be anyone going.  I can't imagine how they would screw up and/or be so happy at the pitstop.  Although, IMO, and as mentioned, and based on awesome oceangreen info, I think it's going to be Nic/Don out in 4th, due to that same sighting that has them favored in the F3.  If TK/Rachel do recover here, they are the closest team to them.  But if they are running, it's most likely due to being out or running for 1st for a F3 spot, as well as position.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 12:01:50 PM
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However, the final 3 have to be in New York for TES
Not true, you'll see.
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Then again, they could fly the Final 3 back after they party into TES like was done for Todd and Courtney for Survivor.  Which, again is unlikely because CBS really doesn't give the same treatment for TAR as is does for Survivor, IMO.
And this I agree with, CBS treats TAR like the so called red headed step child :hand:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Neobie on January 12, 2008, 12:31:56 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14212.0;attach=45834;image)

The gardens do stay open to the public after dark (I was there at about 11.30pm), I wonder if this would help? (The white rectangle in the vidcap indicates a landscaped garden, and the lights by the side do kind of match!)

Edited to fix, sorry Puddin!:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4717/cksatnightcf0.jpg)

And white rectangles here (http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=310163700&size=o).

Given the proximity between the stone path and the Pit Stop, would the Speed Bump appear JUST BEFORE the check-in? That would just be cruel!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 12, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
Yeah, I think we are going to have to accept Don & Nic being eliminated this week (what we call the 4th team curse).  

Really unless their is some serious oddness to this episode (which is extremely unlikely).  While I believe time wise it is possible for the leg to be over two days (so enough time for the final leg).  And that it is mathematically possible that the teams get to the roadblock and discover an hours of operation making them start early in the morning , and then the rest of the day doing the rest of the tasks and traveling back.

But while that does appear to be possible with the time situation.  It doesn't seem to fit with what we see of the tasks (nothing seems terrible time consuming besides the traveling).  

And even if that did occur the fact that it appears that we see Nic & Don in the dark (with clothes that reflect doing the roadblock) would still put them at the end of the pack.

REally the biggest thing right now is trying to figure out the placement of the other teams and when Tk & Rachel get their speedbump.  I assume it happens early in the days tasks.  But they might treat it placement wise like they do a Yield or U-Turn (which can be either early or late in the episode).

But even if its late, I don't think it allows enough time for Nic & Don to catch up (without significant other problems for Tk & Rachel).

As for the spoiler about Nic & Don in Alaska it is possible in one of two ways.
1.  Decoy team (which isn't that uncommon for the fourth team).
2.  Or it could be more solid information that the final leg does end in Alaska.

I think I am going to cry (he,he).

I think I am really glad that while I really like this season (great locations, tasks and stunts), but that I never fell in love with any team (though I like several).  And that I really only hated a team and a half.

God, I can't the season's almost over........
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
The link isn't working Neobie, do you think this is where Nic & Don might be?
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: north09 on January 12, 2008, 01:45:58 PM
I'm fine with either Ron & Christina or Nic & Don being eliminated. Though I would rather see Christina dump her dad and race alone (doubt that would ever happen).
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 02:06:56 PM
Thanks Neobie, and its always nice seeing pictures of our members  :-*
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 12, 2008, 02:35:48 PM
I can't seem to find it on this thread, but has apskip or anyone else given us a rundown of possible fligts between Osaka and Taipei?  Direct or through Tokyo?  If teams arrive at the pitstop between 7PM and 11PM, and it is only a 12 hour pit stop, they would be leaving between 7AM and 11AM. And if they have to ride up the glass elevator in Osaka first, how do they catch flights that will get them to the 101 tower by noon  on July 27?????????

GMAN, the quick answer if that there are no such flights that allow anyone to be released from a 12 hour pitstop and get to Taipei 101 by noon July 27. Here are the flight choices:

27 AM release from Osaka(except for Tk and Rachel who should release about 11am)
KIX TPE via any of these 3 flights:
EG211 1030 1245
CX565 1100 1315
BR2121 1235 1505

You can always get the latest total AR12 Timeline information by looking backward from the end of the Timeline Speculation thread. Right now the latest such post is #276, Jan. 7, 941am. If you look for this, you won't have to keep asking for help.

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 02:43:40 PM
thumbnails for Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 12, 2008, 02:51:43 PM
Could it not be TK/Rachel who are the ones running the 24 hour leg? Maybe they couldn't get on any of the flights in time and are doing the roadblock the next day, which is why it is day time for them? How could Nick/Don be so behind? Is the detour before the roadblock?  :duno:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 03:09:09 PM

Could it not be TK/Rachel who are the ones running the 24 hour leg? Maybe they couldn't get on any of the flights in time and are doing the roadblock the next day, which is why it is day time for them? How could Nick/Don be so behind? Is the detour before the roadblock?  :duno:
:noway:

fwiw

Osaka taxi? white covered seats. If you could see the video, Rachel is happy.
here~

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 03:31:38 PM
Remember the introflash, the lanterns that Boingo found? Just thought this was interesting
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4737/01jan0001yy8.jpg)

FIREWORKS IN THE SOUTH, SKY LANTERNS IN THE NORTH (http://www.smh.com.au/news/asia/this-holidays-a-cracker/2005/07/22/1121539155663.html)

Legend has it that the Lantern Festival or Little New Year began during the reign of Emperor Wu Di of the Han Dynasty (206BC-AD221), to honour the wily exploits of the Guan Holy Sovereign, who recommended lighting huge firecrackers and displaying red lanterns to please the God of Heaven.

So while fireworks rage in the south, lanterns light up the north of Taiwan in a diametrically opposing display of peace and tranquillity.
In Taipei, the massive Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall plaza fills with kitsch helium balloons (in the shape of kangaroos, toilets, chooks, dogs and much more), thousands of beautiful red and yellow sky lanterns, dozens of food stalls (row upon row of squid and black bean, sushi, dim sum, fish balls, shrimp coffins, chilli chicken and more), performers, and crowds.

In the mountains nearby, there is a less hectic lantern display over the village of Pinghsi. These lanterns are decorated with pictures, slogans and the names of their owners, and let loose into the sky with wishes such as "The higher the lamp flies, the higher your business will soar".


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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 12, 2008, 03:32:24 PM
But I swear they're always happy! Last week's episode, the closest they got to frowning was looking at each other and shrugging. Did you see how happy they were when they reached the pit stop?  They were even smiling when Phil told them they were the last teams to arrive.  :groan:

We can never know what they're thinking without knowing what's going on...

That's partly why I don't really like them that much. :(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 12, 2008, 04:02:20 PM
I can't seem to find it on this thread, but has apskip or anyone else given us a rundown of possible fligts between Osaka and Taipei?  Direct or through Tokyo?  If teams arrive at the pitstop between 7PM and 11PM, and it is only a 12 hour pit stop, they would be leaving between 7AM and 11AM. And if they have to ride up the glass elevator in Osaka first, how do they catch flights that will get them to the 101 tower by noon  on July 27?????????

GMAN, the quick answer if that there are no such flights that allow anyone to be released from a 12 hour pitstop and get to Taipei 101 by noon July 27. Here are the flight choices:

27 AM release from Osaka(except for Tk and Rachel who should release about 11am)
KIX TPE via any of these 3 flights:
EG211 1030 1245
CX565 1100 1315
BR2121 1235 1505

You can always get the latest total AR12 Timeline information by looking backward from the end of the Timeline Speculation thread. Right now the latest such post is #276, Jan. 7, 941am. If you look for this, you won't have to keep asking for help.



Thanks for the insider tip.  But it seems to me that there is too much ep speculation in the Timeline which should be included here in this thread.  It would be helpful to include all episode speculation in this one thread.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oceangreen on January 12, 2008, 04:52:01 PM
georgia peach, it can't be them arriving at the roadblock because Don had already changed his orange clothes to grey blue.

 (This fits in somewhere after the roadblock to the pitstop)

 ;D
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 12, 2008, 06:08:29 PM
Peach

Yeah it appears that Don & Nic's only shot is if One team really screws up, or if the Speed Bump and other activities put the breaks on Rachel & Tk after the roadblock.  If it occurs before then they are in a world of hurt.

As to why the showed Tk & Rachel doing their tasks, they usually do if the team isn't going to be eliminated (especially this team into the season when the cast is so small) show teams doing the tasks (that way we don't bitch, did they do it or not).  Really the only exception is the final leg and the third team (at the final tasks) because really by that point do we really care if Ray & Yolanda kew their flags, or if the Weavers could finally make a map, or if Bama did anything in New York.

For example Eric & Danielle were 3 hours behind (thanks to flights in Hong Kong) yet we saw them at every task.  And of course in the 2 legs really screwed up by the airport nightmare in All Stars we got to see the teams do all the same tasks.  What they skipped in Germany (the rowing or paddling, whatever the hell that was) was skipped for all teams.

Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 12, 2008, 07:52:47 PM
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However, the final 3 have to be in New York for TES.


revengefullycreative--I have addressed this comment here, as it is sadly no longer true:

 http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14293.msg247599.html#msg247599
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 12, 2008, 09:52:33 PM
No go for NYC wow that is surprising!!!  :ascared  :(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 12, 2008, 10:37:10 PM
Peach

.

  What they skipped in Germany (the rowing or paddling, whatever the hell that was) was skipped for all teams.



The rowing bit was skipped in Warsaw.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Boingo on January 12, 2008, 10:45:31 PM

Could it not be TK/Rachel who are the ones running the 24 hour leg? Maybe they couldn't get on any of the flights in time and are doing the roadblock the next day, which is why it is day time for them? How could Nick/Don be so behind? Is the detour before the roadblock?  :duno:
:noway:

fwiw

Osaka taxi? white covered seats. If you could see the video, Rachel is happy.
here~

Interesting, how the cameraman films them from both the driver side and the passenger side of the car (taxi) in the Rachel shots.  If it's a Japan taxi, then he would be sitting on the left side, and on the right in a Taiwan taxi.  ;)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Zack. on January 12, 2008, 11:01:24 PM

Could it not be TK/Rachel who are the ones running the 24 hour leg? Maybe they couldn't get on any of the flights in time and are doing the roadblock the next day, which is why it is day time for them? How could Nick/Don be so behind? Is the detour before the roadblock?  :duno:
:noway:

fwiw

Osaka taxi? white covered seats. If you could see the video, Rachel is happy.
here~

Interesting, how the cameraman films them from both the driver side and the passenger side of the car (taxi) in the Rachel shots.  If it's a Japan taxi, then he would be sitting on the left side, and on the right in a Taiwan taxi.  ;)

I agree. I think that they just took footage from two different taxi rides, not only from the filming angle, but from the fact that TK/Rachel have two different sets of clothes on (first taxi TK has eagle, Rachel has two tank tops on; second taxi TK has no eagle, Rachel has one different tank on). First taxi is...somewhere, possibly after the RB. Second taxi takes place before the RB (Rachel has on the same tank top as in the previews). Funnily enough, I think Rachel changes again (to a short-sleeved shirt) before the theraputic walk, which could mean they're behind or bunched or that she just likes to change shirts a lot  :duno: ;)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 12, 2008, 11:16:19 PM
Peach

.

  What they skipped in Germany (the rowing or paddling, whatever the hell that was) was skipped for all teams.


:groan:

All  I was thinking was ok nazi's.  But ddin't remember where they went.   :umn:

The rowing bit was skipped in Warsaw.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2008, 11:33:50 PM

Interesting, how the cameraman films them from both the driver side and the passenger side of the car (taxi) in the Rachel shots.  If it's a Japan taxi, then he would be sitting on the left side, and on the right in a Taiwan taxi.  ;)

About time you showed up for work  ;)

Trivia: So the THSR looks the same coming and going

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Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gator27 on January 13, 2008, 07:11:45 AM


As to why the showed Tk & Rachel doing their tasks, they usually do if the team isn't going to be eliminated (especially this team into the season when the cast is so small) show teams doing the tasks (that way we don't bitch, did they do it or not).  Really the only exception is the final leg and the third team (at the final tasks) because really by that point do we really care if Ray & Yolanda kew their flags, or if the Weavers could finally make a map, or if Bama did anything in New York.

For example Eric & Danielle were 3 hours behind (thanks to flights in Hong Kong) yet we saw them at every task.  And of course in the 2 legs really screwed up by the airport nightmare in All Stars we got to see the teams do all the same tasks.  What they skipped in Germany (the rowing or paddling, whatever the hell that was) was skipped for all teams.



I think the only way a team skips tasks is if they are way behind and are going to be eliminated.  CBS played it as if TK/Rachel were going to be eliminated, yet we saw them doing tasks because they were not eliminated.

Then there was Romber who skipped a task, conned another team into doing the same, and was not eliminated on that leg.  It pays to know the rules.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gator27 on January 13, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
Is CBS misleading us or are we that smart?

Here is a quote from the Ep11 #3 thread

If you read RealityWanted.net, there is a good interview with Kynt and Vyxsin. Kynt ends it with a statement that "the next 3 episodes(meaning the final 3) are all going to be "nail-biters". I can't use that word to describe what happened in Osaka, but I can apply that expectation to both Taipei and Alaska.

What we have predicted for a Don/Nic way behind scenario does not mesh with the Goth interview.  CBS has been pretty good at using yellow filters, showing only one team per clip, etc. to tell the story they want to tell.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 13, 2008, 09:20:20 AM
Hey guys, I just checked my TV guide and for all the channels (CBS, CTV, etc.) say the Amazing Race 12 is going to be from 8pm-8:30 (half an hour long...) today. Is this true? :(
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 10:40:16 AM
No it isn't true.  AR will start on time at 8pm and run for a full hour (minus of course commercials).
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 13, 2008, 10:44:06 AM
No it isn't true.  AR will start on time at 8pm and run for a full hour (minus of course commercials).

OK, Thanks! I was wondering and I was thinking "Is this because of a TBC leg?..."
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 10:55:45 AM
Is CBS misleading us or are we that smart?

Here is a quote from the Ep11 #3 thread

If you read RealityWanted.net, there is a good interview with Kynt and Vyxsin. Kynt ends it with a statement that "the next 3 episodes(meaning the final 3) are all going to be "nail-biters". I can't use that word to describe what happened in Osaka, but I can apply that expectation to both Taipei and Alaska.

What we have predicted for a Don/Nic way behind scenario does not mesh with the Goth interview.  CBS has been pretty good at using yellow filters, showing only one team per clip, etc. to tell the story they want to tell.  Hmmm.


Even Nathan tells us, in the web clip, this iis going to be a nail-biter.
I don't know that the filters mean anything but Don/Nic are pinkish or is it orangeish? whatever.
Chris & Ron are purplish
Jen & Nate are blueish
Rachel & TK are yellowish
(vidcaps here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14212.msg247153.html#msg247153))
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP10/09Jan0025.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 13, 2008, 11:02:32 AM
I guess with the plan not to have the Final 3 teams on TES, we can only make the following accurate assumption:  Nathan & Jennifer will make the Final 3.  They are one of the strongest teams, and they are the annoying/villain team.  This team tends to get to the Final 3, so why should this team be any different?  I just hope they don't win!

Other than that, it's anybody's guess who'll be eliminated, although considering the photo of Ron & Christina at the Pit Stop, I'm going to assume they also make the finals.  This leaves us with Nicholas & Don and T.K. & Rachel.  Although there are some photos which indicate that Nicholas & Don are way behind, we've seen them in Alaska.  Moreover, T.K. & Rachel have that Speed Bump to do.

Right now, I think T.K. & Rachel will fail to make the finals, but it could be Nicholas & Don.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: malice on January 13, 2008, 11:06:56 AM
One thing that strikes me with puddin's awesome clips  :tup:is that the fact that Ron/Christina are the only team doing the Roadblock.

Are they ahead? Behind?  Or do the other teams have to wait somewhere else?

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The following is quoted:
It seems clear that the flow of the next leg will be:
1. Taipei 101 for first clue
2. Roadblock in Jiji Town
3. Detour in Taipei at night (probably Speed bump here)
4. Pit stop at CKS Memorial
Sorry I am new here and have not figured out the ropes yet!

I am assuming that TK and Rachel catch up to everyone at the airport.  Earasing the 3 hour different.  The only item holding them back is the speed bump.  Soooo the race the finish line is between the Gramps team and TK& Rachel?

Is it confirmed that it is Jen's birthday?

BTW the sleuthing on this boards is absolutely awesome!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 11:28:32 AM
If Nicolas & Don were sited in Alaska (and not a false spoiler, which can happen) we are left with three possible options.

1.  They are a decoy team (which might explain why no one else is witnessed.  Often the production has had the 4th team used as a decoy, with the decrease in budget we don't know if the production is still doing this (something to ask at Tarcon.).

2.  The finale leg does end in Alaska (which we don't know, even if some feel that it does).  Then Nicolas & Donald could be spotted, and also be not scene with the other racers (or the groups from earlier eliminations).

3.  They manage to make the final three.  Now with photo evidence and the breakdown of the episode this doesn't look good for this team.  But teams can be ahead at most stages of the race and hit one snag and fall hours behind (over the years we have lots of examples of this).  So things like teams getting lost, teams getting taken by cabs to the wrong location, having difficulty with tasks, penalties, having addition tasks can push a team that was doing well to the back of the pack.

With it being Sunday, we shouldn't get any additional info to clarify.

But I did put it in my personal order of what I think is most likely the case (1 being the most likely).  

And while I mention the possibility of a false sighting.  I don't like to question the accuracy of the spoilers (though they can be wrongs and in error).  Both to just human error and in people  planting false sightings (this happened a lot with the inaccurate accounts on All Stars by posters just wanting to mess with fans.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 11:39:45 AM

Sorry I am new here and have not figured out the ropes yet!

I am assuming that TK and Rachel catch up to everyone at the airport.  Earasing the 3 hour different.  The only item holding them back is the speed bump.  Soooo the race the finish line is between the Gramps team and TK& Rachel?

Is it confirmed that it is Jen's birthday?

BTW the sleuthing on this boards is absolutely awesome!


:hithere: malice
It all depends on what side of the fence you are on?
* I think Rachel & TK catch up, perhaps because of some hours of operation in Osaka, maybe they do something at the Umeda building as pointed out by Slowhatch per vidcap.
* I don't know who the race to the pitstop might be, for some reason I think Jen & Nate are involved but thats just my thinking... they almost always are lately.
* Again, I don't think its been confirmed if Jen's B-Day is the 27th 28th or 29th but shes a Leo if that helps and her myspace friends posted B-Day wishes on the 29th so? :D
And if you ask me, I think its going to be a real nail-biter because really we don't know 100% which team is eliminated :popcorn:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 11:59:39 AM
I guess with the plan not to have the Final 3 teams on TES, we can only make the following accurate assumption:  Nathan & Jennifer will make the Final 3.  They are one of the strongest teams, and they are the annoying/villain team.  This team tends to get to the Final 3, so why should this team be any different?  I just hope they don't win!

Right now, I think T.K. & Rachel will fail to make the finals, but it could be Nicholas & Don.

Belle Book


While I think you are correct about who the race comes down to.  I strongly disagree with calling Jennifer and Nathan the annoying/villain team (well the villain part anyway).

While you can certainly call them the typical bickering couple team (and of course that can be annoying).  What evidence have we seen in episodes or clips that would earn them the title "Villain".

Usually that goes to one or two types of teams.  

1.  The type of team that tries to use manipulation to get ahead of other teams.

2.  The team with the worst overall behavior.

And in this season (at least to date) that doesn't apply to this team.

We haven't seen them trying to trick teams (even told other teams about Azaria & Hendekea doing that with flights), no telling people not to help others, no stealing cabs, no pushing other teams out of the way, to bribing drivers, ect.  The closest we have seen is Nate talking about his "dream" of being in a race for the finnish line and throwing his pack to trip a team.  Really we haven't seen much of this behavior in this season now the teams talk about who they find to be underhanded and thats so far been Azaria & Hendekea (by some teams, and we have heard them talk about in clips giving false info to others), Ronald & Christina (who have admitted giving false info), and probably the most negative talk as been about Kynt & Vyxsin (about trying to give false info out).  Now in all those cases, thats exceptionally mild for what is normal "Villain" moments.

As to the overall poorest behaving team.  While they certainly bicker (and some times out and out fight), they tend to keep that internally within their own team.  We haven't seen them arguing or fighting with other teams.  And we haven't seen them fighting with locals.  The closest we get to that is hearing about them getting in a financial disagreement with a local over the bill for a phone (we don't see or hear about it, and we don't here them talk about inappropriate behavior so we can't judge that.  And then being upset about he cab driver who wouldn't pick them up.  And that was I can't freakin believe this, that is so unfair, type of comments.  

With Ronald and Christina (well Ronald), we see a team that hits all aspects of poor behavior.  We get internal team fighting (in as many episodes as Nate & Jenn and in just as hurtful manner), we have a team that fights and argues and cusses at other teams (all apparently one sided), we haven't seen a team fight or cuss back (the closest is Kynt insisting that he wait until they are finished with their transaction).  And we have a team that also gets mad and vocal to locals (we see and hear about this in clips.  And we hear about it being done inappropriately (So I think we can judge).  We have the only team (that I can recall in the history of the show) who fought we task judges.  We have a team that has made comments about that were negative about a countries people (Again clips were we see Ron talk about the French).  

We have seen a total of one episode where they didn't fight (episode one) and that might be because they didn't or it might be because with 11 teams, they didn't get much air time, who knows.  Even this last episode where Christina says they didn't fight they entire leg, wasn't accurate, as the airport scenes showed.  Though for them, this was indeed a better episode.  
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: makz3d on January 13, 2008, 12:09:48 PM


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:hithere: malice

* Again, I don't think its been confirmed if Jen's B-Day is the 27th 28th or 29th but shes a Leo if that helps and her myspace friends posted B-Day wishes on the 29th so? :D
And if you ask me, I think its going to be a real nail-biter because really we don't know 100% which team is eliminated :popcorn:

[/quote]


Since question of Jen's B-Day has come up again I figured I'd post what I found in a California Birth Index.  I starred out the surname of Jen's mother.


California Birth Index, 1905-1995 at Ancestry.com
Name:    Jennifer Ellen Parker
Birth Date:    28 Jul 1984
Gender:    Female
Mother's Maiden Name:    *******
Birth County:    San Diego
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. California Birth Index, 1905-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: State of California. California Birth Index, 1905-1995. Sacramento, CA, USA: State of California Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2008, 12:10:33 PM
No it isn't true.  AR will start on time at 8pm and run for a full hour (minus of course commercials).

OK, Thanks! I was wondering and I was thinking "Is this because of a TBC leg?..."

Is TAR 12 on today??
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 12:15:35 PM


Since question of Jen's B-Day has come up again I figured I'd post what I found in a California Birth Index.  I starred out the surname of Jen's mother.


California Birth Index, 1905-1995 at Ancestry.com
Name:    Jennifer Ellen Parker
Birth Date:    28 Jul 1984
Gender:    Female
Mother's Maiden Name:    *******
Birth County:    San Diego
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. California Birth Index, 1905-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: State of California. California Birth Index, 1905-1995. Sacramento, CA, USA: State of California Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics.
Good job makz3d :yaya:

Kiwi, yes Sunday night, thats when TAR is on, here anyway.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 13, 2008, 01:06:07 PM
Yes, so it is 28th! For once I'm not wrong with my sleuthing!  :keeta:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Alan on January 13, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
I guess with the plan not to have the Final 3 teams on TES, we can only make the following accurate assumption:  Nathan & Jennifer will make the Final 3.  They are one of the strongest teams, and they are the annoying/villain team.  This team tends to get to the Final 3, so why should this team be any different?  I just hope they don't win!

Other than that, it's anybody's guess who'll be eliminated, although considering the photo of Ron & Christina at the Pit Stop, I'm going to assume they also make the finals.  This leaves us with Nicholas & Don and T.K. & Rachel.  Although there are some photos which indicate that Nicholas & Don are way behind, we've seen them in Alaska.  Moreover, T.K. & Rachel have that Speed Bump to do.

Right now, I think T.K. & Rachel will fail to make the finals, but it could be Nicholas & Don.

Belle Book


I agree with you 100%.

Ron and Chris will probably be first heading into the final leg due to them probably being able to speak Chinese.

Nate and Jenn second again, probably not far behind or a close race between them and Ron & Chris. Jenn will probably bitch again.  :lol:

And I think the random curse of last intro team(only Adam and Rebecca of TAR 6 made into the final 3) will see Gramps sneak into the final 3...Hopefully!  :jumpy:

I think even if Gramps do fall behind, the nightfall would probably save them(its probably gonna be a long leg) and the teams are probably bunched again.

And it's for sure that the final 4 curse strikes again when one of these two more popular teams does not make the final 3.  :pull

And good luck to all the teams and everyone who supports them.  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: colav10 on January 13, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
We'll see if i'm right or not but I believe that CBS is setting us up and that Nic and Don are not eliminated. I bet they actually do make the final leg.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: teufel on January 13, 2008, 04:46:38 PM
Yeah, I think Ron & Chris are gone tonight.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Oliver on January 13, 2008, 05:30:33 PM
We'll see if i'm right or not but I believe that CBS is setting us up and that Nic and Don are not eliminated. I bet they actually do make the final leg.

Let's hope so. Show starts in an hour and a half!  :yess:

I'm off topic, but I hope no one minds... Sorry! :js:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 05:42:10 PM
Well, to be honest I don't see how the trailer indicates Don/Nic behind "eliminated" to throw us off to a person who does not dissect the preview frame for frame.

When TAR wants to throw something off it's obvious to people who just see the preview...for example, in TAR11 there was that one preview where it was "so obvious" that Dustin and Kandice get yielded but in the actual episode they ended up paying Danny and Oswald to yield Eric and Daniele.
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Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 05:45:51 PM
Hell remember these are the people that showed the three teams running to the mat in season 10.  Even before Chateau did time estimates, we could guess by expression that Tyler & James won.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
Hell remember these are the people that showed the three teams running to the mat in season 10.  Even before Chateau did time estimates, we could guess by expression that Tyler & James won.
:D
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2008, 05:56:07 PM
lol that aint happening lol !!! looking forward to tonights episode still clinging on to the hope of Jenn and Nate being ELIMed!! (not possible)!!
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Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 05:57:51 PM
lol that aint happening lol !!! looking forward to tonights episode still clinging on to the hope of Jenn and Nate being ELIMed!! (not possible)!!
I'd actually be happy if that happened :hides
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 06:00:11 PM
:hides
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Post by: gingerman28 on January 13, 2008, 06:05:47 PM
This is late, but could it be that we have completely misinterpreted Phil's remarks to TK and Rachel when they arrived at the mat in Osaka?

When he said "you are three hours behind" he meant that TK and Rachel were three hours behind the leader (Ron and Chris) and not three hours behind Don and Nick?

This would put TK and Rachel's late arrival at around 9:45PM and NOT around 11:00PM.

This would explain why the four teams seem to arrive in Taipei at the same time.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
I never really thought about it Gman, we shall see soon  :yess:
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Post by: mswood on January 13, 2008, 06:21:10 PM
Thats what I assumed he meant, the lead teams.  On the mat chat with Eric & Danielle, when he asks them if they know how far behind they are, Eric says about 12 hours and Phil says yeah.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
omg !!
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Post by: Oliver on January 13, 2008, 07:54:41 PM
 :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: THEY GOT ELIMINATED!!!! YAHHHH!!!!!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

The Spoilers were wrong!!! Anyone's Game Now!  :keeta:  :jam:

Anyone care to celebrate?

By the way, next week's finale looks extremely intense!  :js:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Belle Book on January 13, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
I'm already celebrating!   :jumpy:   :yess:   :jumpy:   :yess:   :jumpy:   :yess:   :jumpy:   :yess:

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2008, 08:27:16 PM
omg yayayayay!!!! Oliver I most certainly do!!!! :keeta: :keeta: :jam: :jam: :neener: :meow: I hate them so much SHES A MOANING FUGLY B**CH AND HE IS A FARRRKIN UGLY DIMPS**T LOL!!!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 08:29:13 PM
they didn't even go to tapei 101
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2008, 08:33:55 PM
Or it was edited out ....

But saddest of all--no drum for Boingo to bang!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Mister RC on January 13, 2008, 08:44:18 PM
Apparently, the editors must've been happy for Jen/Nate's exit that they forgot to air the F3 -- Look Competitive/We're going to win pimp at the end of the show.  But with three lovable teams, it wouldn't matter anyway!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 13, 2008, 08:54:24 PM
This is late, but could it be that we have completely misinterpreted Phil's remarks to TK and Rachel when they arrived at the mat in Osaka?

When he said "you are three hours behind" he meant that TK and Rachel were three hours behind the leader (Ron and Chris) and not three hours behind Don and Nick?

This would put TK and Rachel's late arrival at around 9:45PM and NOT around 11:00PM.

This would explain why the four teams seem to arrive in Taipei at the same time.

GMAN if you were watching tonight, the pitstop release time for TK and Rachel was 1018am. You can take it to the bank that they arrived at the pitstop at 1018pm.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 13, 2008, 08:59:36 PM
The speed bump was awfully quick. One mile away would be less than 10 minutes taxi time plus no more than 10 minutes to suit up protective gear, unsuit, and actually run the gauntlet. The total of 20 minutes appears a bit less than the time it took Kynt and Vyxsin in Mumbai due to the taxis fighting urban traffic.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: michael on January 13, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
apkip -- IA, it was way too quick, both teams who had a speed bump managed to get to the detour BEFORE another team.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: patlini on January 13, 2008, 10:45:41 PM
you know guys i think the speed bump was fair, if TK and Rachel had been last to the roadblock then those precious minutes would have really delayed them.

Like Phil said in India (insider vids) the speed bump will delay them a little bit.

I dunno I like it. :duno:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 14, 2008, 12:27:56 AM
.......I think everything about TAR is great apart from Jenn and Nate, Eric and Danielle, Rob and Kimberly, Lake and Michelle, D.J and Brian Paolo, Ray and Deana, Jonathan and Victoria, 11 Legs instead of 13, Marshall and Lance and Colin and Christie, Amanda and Chris, Flo, Wil and Frank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: malice on January 14, 2008, 07:29:42 AM
Thanks for all of your insight yesterday!  Everyone managed to get the time line.  I guess I have to work on my logic skills to figure out the placement.  I was completely off yesterday.  I have to say, it was worth it to see Nate and Jen outta there.  :yess:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: gingerman28 on January 14, 2008, 11:20:03 AM
Or it was edited out ....

But saddest of all--no drum for Boingo to bang!

With the teams arriving at the Taipei airport between 2:51PM and 3:15PM and then catching the high speed train at 4:47, there doesn't seem to be time for the teams to first visit 101 building.  Maybe the dates were confused and this was just a sightseeing visit during a 24 or 36 rest period.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Chateau d If on January 14, 2008, 11:24:05 AM
I spoke with Nate last night and he said they were never even near Taipei 101.

Totally bogus spoiler  (:;)

Hendekea said she and Azaria ran decoy in Anchorage.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 14, 2008, 11:50:39 AM
Thanks, Chateau. :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: Slowhatch on January 15, 2008, 12:49:40 AM
A curiosity:
At the GK tea house (which I still haven't been able to pinpoint) they were given instructions to walk to the Gong Guan night market (http://taipeitravel.net/article.asp?pcode=2&indexId=46&mrtId=-1&uId=2801&pageNo=1). More than once, however, we see shots of the Raohe street night market (http://www.raohe.com.tw/e4-1.htm), which is on the other end of town. Filler shots? Gong guan wasn't colorful enough?


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Post by: ChunHan on January 15, 2008, 12:55:06 AM
Taiwan doesn't belong to China at all.
The official web is wrong !!!
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Post by: Neobie on January 15, 2008, 06:38:49 AM
GK (http://www.gktea.com.tw/chuansheng/front/bin/home.phtml) is really just a phonetic translation of 集客 (Jike), meaning 'to gather the crowds'.

Several different outlets, but the one teams went to was the National University shop, at No 18 Roosevelt Road III Lane 333, just 440m/480yd northwest of the night market.

The Zhongzheng Park I need a little help with. The nearest ones I can find are in Daxi and Keelung, both of which are billions of times further than the Youth Park? This doesn't make sense.

The Speed Bump? Is ONE BLOCK away on Heping St (not even Heping Town or Heping County) in Jiji. They could have walked there and beaten the taxi!
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 15, 2008, 09:37:44 AM
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The Zhongzheng Park I need a little help with.
Could it have referred to a park in Zhongzheng district? There are a couple of parks close to CKS Memorial.
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 15, 2008, 11:35:18 AM
Taiwan doesn't belong to China at all.
The official web is wrong !!!0
Damn straight! I've been saying that, too!
Title: Re: EP 10: Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You
Post by: apskip on January 15, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
The fact that Taiwan is independent from China is clear. So why would this website(I haven't a clue as to which one although I did look around on the official Amazing Race 12 site) be touting Taiwan as part of China?

The obvious inference I can draw is that somebody sees more future benefits in sucking up to the mainland Chinese than in sucking up to the Taiwanese. How many Amazing Races have been in Taiwan? That's trivial, just this one. How many have been in China? AR1, AR2(counting Hong Kong), AR6, AR10, AR11. Which country would you be courting if you were running the Amazing Race? Mainland China for sure. Well, there you have the answer!