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Title: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Kogs on December 22, 2007, 11:04:10 PM
I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us
Airs 1/6 start time is 8:30 pm due to the nfl on cbs

Osaka, Japan    Date July 25th?



 Lynn/Alex (http://laragmag.com/2007/08/14/amazing-race-12-is-at-the-starting-line-but-the-gun-wont-go-off/)  make an unsubstantiated claim ("we also heard from a little bird") about China, thanks to Slowhatch. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12521.msg213671.html#msg213671)

Boingo  -- Osaka, Japan

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6519/23oct00022bn7.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00022bn7.jpg)Kishiwada Castle (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235262.html#msg235262)  (Boingo)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/579/23oct00042yo5.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00042yo5.jpg)Osaka Clown (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12682.msg235236.html#msg235236) (Boingo)


(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1528/23oct00092ir9.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23oct00092ir9.jpg)

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3627/dudeyw4.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dudeyw4.jpg)Slowhatch: its Rennyo (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14164.msg245395.html#msg245395).
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 22, 2007, 11:06:40 PM
Clues~
Web Clues

*One Racer begins showing signs of physical deterioration, prompting the Teammate to step up to the plate. But will it be enough?
*One volatile relationship takes a turn for the worse. Will the Team be able to get it together before it's too late?
*Taxi drivers have caused grief for Teams at the most inopportune times. Now, it's the revenge of the Racers as they don gloves and hats and drive Japanese passengers around the confusing streets of Osaka!

press release~

"I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak on Us" —
*The physicality of the race takes its toll on one of the racer's health
*One Racer can't perform at a Roadblock due to physical exhaustion,
*while another Racer blows a gasket when their taxi driver drops them off at the wrong location,
*while another team suffers  an emotional breakdown that threatens to ruin their performance

:bar:

 (http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38298/2003188641792538100_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003188641792538100)Kansai International Airport 

 (http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/38385/2003178339280506735_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003178339280506735)(http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/38385/2003106359856421113_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003106359856421113)(http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/38263/2003196967243682013_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003196967243682013)  Neobie: We connect through HK!

Chateau d if: This shot was taken here between 3:53 and 5:24 pm (assumes July 25th or 26th).
(http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/37425/2003180136612561215_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003180136612561215)
(http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38298/2003188641792538100_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003188641792538100)(http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/40039/2003129199112376333_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003129199112376333)(http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/38799/2003194069698287710_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003194069698287710) Kishiwada Castle, thanks Boingo   

(http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/39041/2003172838213104670_th.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003172838213104670) Hard Rock Cafe Osaka, thanks Neobie

:bar:
Detour
 
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9575/03jan0018zt6.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0018zt6.jpg)(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/426/03jan0020tw3.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0020tw3.jpg)(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/879/03jan0024ob7.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0024ob7.jpg)Boingo: Akazawa's PLEN robot

:bar:
Roadblock
*Taxi drivers have caused grief for Teams at the most inopportune times. Now, it's the revenge of the Racers as they don gloves and hats and drive Japanese passengers around the confusing streets of Osaka!
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4655/03jan0025qy0.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0025qy0.jpg)(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9900/03jan0028ze2.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0028ze2.jpg) Jen


(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3692/03jan0033qy2.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0033qy2.jpg)(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1363/03jan0034rt2.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0034rt2.jpg) Christina

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3029/03jan0049aa1.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03jan0049aa1.jpg) Nick
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 22, 2007, 11:32:10 PM
So he kicks the bucket in this leg? :cmas50 :cmas50 :cmas50
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 22, 2007, 11:35:15 PM
lol maybe Ron's hernia kicks in?  :snicker: .....and now I'm seaching India frogs because you never know?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on December 23, 2007, 01:05:52 AM
Intersection perhaps? At that point there would be four teams ("This is forever, now" start 5 end 5 TBC/4; "They've got witch powers or something" start 5/4 end 4 TBC) and it hasn't occured yet so maybe it's an intersected racer talking about one of their teammates (presumably Ron/Don). Granted, an intersection with 4 teams on an elimination leg is kind of unfair (and if it's the first part of the TBC then it's almost meaningless).
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Belle Book on December 23, 2007, 10:53:42 AM
Hope it's Ron, then if it's an elimination leg, we know he & Christina make it to the finals!

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on December 23, 2007, 11:10:35 AM
How so Belle Book?

If it IS referring to Ron it could be said by Christina before the leg begins or during the leg as well
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on December 23, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
Well I personally think its Nicholas talking about Don.  He sounds like how they talk.

It certainly doesn't sound like something Christina would say.  And Ron wouls say something weirder.

THough I suppose it could be one of the other team members talking about either Don or Nic, but I don't see it.  Well need to see more clues and footage.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: north09 on December 23, 2007, 04:38:07 PM
Looking at pictures of Jaisalmer, I doubt frongs could live there. I may be wrong though. It would help to have screencaps, because as far as we know, it could just be Nate and Jen having another one of their daily fights. They do come up with odd analogies for eachother in stressful times.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on December 30, 2007, 08:24:12 PM
Japan it is then! But does that mean Ronald/Christina make it to Taiwan? If Osaka eliminates them, Taiwan would have to be a non-elimination - and there'd be a Speed Bump on the final leg? Or are there more than eleven legs? Or Taiwan is part of the final leg? Or...? :pull

Checking out the airport roof in the preview, doesn't look like Mumbai Intl to me... Does anyone know how I could find a screencap?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on December 30, 2007, 08:40:10 PM
It sure looked like Japan in the preview to me rather than Taiwan.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 08:42:16 PM
It is I saw the castle --
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on December 30, 2007, 08:45:07 PM
We connect through HK!

(http://www.howtogetlost.com/media/DSC03734.JPG) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14164.0;attach=45558;image)
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 30, 2007, 08:45:26 PM
I will venture to say based on our Taiwan spoiler, Osaka is where Ron/Christina get the boot.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 08:47:23 PM
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6519/23oct00022bn7.jpg) Kishiwada Castle, thanks to Slowhatch , I mean Boingo!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2007, 09:08:12 PM
video:


Online Videos by Veoh.com
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on December 30, 2007, 09:16:27 PM
Boingo has already named the castle in the cap as Kishiwada (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.45873,135.370869&spn=0.002521,0.005831&t=h&z=18&om=1). If there are any dharma taiko inside, they keep them well hidden.  ;D
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on December 30, 2007, 09:48:59 PM
The building behind Nick & Don? "Ito ku hi-"... OK I have no idea.

Are we confident that Ron/Chris do not make it to Taiwan? Are the producers willing to make the Taiwan leg a predictable non-elim, then put a Speed Bump on the final leg?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: retard boi on December 30, 2007, 09:53:20 PM
Well I personally think its Nicholas talking about Don.  He sounds like how they talk.

It certainly doesn't sound like something Christina would say.  And Ron wouls say something weirder.

THough I suppose it could be one of the other team members talking about either Don or Nic, but I don't see it.  Well need to see more clues and footage.

With Chateau's premonition that Ron/Chirstina are Philiminated in a few hours, the title should be about Don.

Chateau was all wet on that one.  So Ron/Christina are still in the race in Japan.
Please Gman, that was Chateau's speculation. Read the spoilers, Ron & Chris should be next.

how do we know that Ron&Chris are next , we only have reports on the winners and Granpa in the finale and the Taiwan reports. for all we know it's another NE leg and the dumb lost ones are the next to go.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on December 30, 2007, 10:12:16 PM
Well I personally think its Nicholas talking about Don.  He sounds like how they talk.

It certainly doesn't sound like something Christina would say.  And Ron wouls say something weirder.

THough I suppose it could be one of the other team members talking about either Don or Nic, but I don't see it.  Well need to see more clues and footage.

With Chateau's premonition that Ron/Chirstina are Philiminated in a few hours, the title should be about Don.

Chateau was all wet on that one.  So Ron/Christina are still in the race in Japan.
Please Gman, that was Chateau's speculation. Read the spoilers, Ron & Chris should be next.

how do we know that Ron&Chris are next , we only have reports on the winners and Granpa in the finale and the Taiwan reports. for all we know it's another NE leg and the dumb lost ones are the next to go.


According to the Taiwan reports, someone mentioned that the Asian team had already been eliminated, meaning that if it's true, then R/C would have to be eliminated in Osaka (granted I would love it if it weren't true).

This means that instead of a TBC, Taiwan's the final NEL and the unlucky team will get Speed Bumped during the finale, which, depending on the structure of the finale, could either screw a team out of a million dollars or be completely inconsequential.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: KingCrimson88 on December 30, 2007, 10:14:28 PM
The initial Taiwan spoiler didn't say that Ron/Chris were already eliminated, just that they may be very far behind. So I think Osaka is non-elim and Ron/Christina are still in the race in Taiwan. I don't think they would put a speed bump on the final leg. Remember, they want the teams to be close together heading in to the final city.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 10:24:09 PM
Phil never said if there were more than one speed-bumps but really I can't see a speed-bump in final leg either.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 10:27:05 PM
*He THINKS that there was an Asian team far behind or eliminated already because he was a good listener.  
*When he was walking into Taipei 101, he was literally 2 feet away from the blond racer and he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”.


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12520.msg235640.html#msg235640
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on December 30, 2007, 10:30:32 PM
If a team was "really far behind", it could be because they were last place in the Osaka leg which was a NEL, and then if there were no equalisers, they'd have fallen even further behind after having to complete the additional speedbump task as well
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on December 30, 2007, 10:31:59 PM
I always thought it would be weird for one of the racers to refer to fellow racers as "the asians" since they would know their names, but now with the way everything played out I am behind this spoiler.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on December 30, 2007, 10:39:54 PM
For those interested in how TK and Rachel get ahead in episode 9, I have the answer. You can find it in the Timeline Speculation thread. However,for those not willing to venture there the answer is that they take a routing of Mumbai to Bangkok to Hong Kong to Taipei(!!) to Osaka while the rest of the pack go directly from Hong Kong to Osaka. Their advantage appears to be 75 minutes.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: huholah on December 30, 2007, 10:58:11 PM
well personally, I don't believe Japan is eimintion point because my friend only heard "I wonder what the asians would say if they came to this place", doesn't imply anything about Ron and Chris eliminated, we are only certain that they were far behind in the race.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 10:58:47 PM
Imagine TK & Rachel being that far ahead and TPTB pull an intersection on them.

Oh and I think the title goes to Nic talking about Don afterall.
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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on December 30, 2007, 11:02:31 PM
I said it sounded like something Nic would say.  They talk shit about each other, its why I love em.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Tyler on December 30, 2007, 11:05:59 PM
Web Clues

One Racer begins showing signs of physical deterioration, prompting the Teammate to step up to the plate. But will it be enough?
One volatile relationship takes a turn for the worse. Will the Team be able to get it together before it's too late?
Taxi drivers have caused grief for Teams at the most inopportune times. Now, it's the revenge of the Racers as they don gloves and hats and drive Japanese passengers around the confusing streets of Osaka!
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on December 30, 2007, 11:08:14 PM
Oh my god, that sounds awesome.

And just a fun little memory Osaka is the first place I ever had someone flash me their privates.  I was 16.  He was I would guess 40 plus.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
OMG that does sound like fun!
Oh my god, that sounds awesome.

And just a fun little memory Osaka is the first place I ever had someone flash me their privates.  I was 16.  He was I would guess 40 plus.
  :lol:  :groan: were they fuzzy?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on December 30, 2007, 11:13:18 PM
OMG that does sound like fun!
Oh my god, that sounds awesome.

And just a fun little memory Osaka is the first place I ever had someone flash me their privates.  I was 16.  He was I would guess 40 plus.
  :lol:  :groan: were they fuzzy?

ew puddin LOL
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on December 30, 2007, 11:14:23 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/30Dec0015.jpg)

With the help of a great friend, got this: (http://www.wdi.co.jp/ja/images/wdi-map02.gif)

From here (http://www.wdi.co.jp/ja/com-honsya.html). Puts the address at 大阪市中央区南本町3丁目6番14号, near their Hard Rock Cafe I believe?

The address of the Hard Rock Cafe:
Hard Rock Cafe Osaka
Ito Building, 1F, 3-6-14
Minami-Hommachi, Chuo-ku
Osaka 541-0054 Osaka, Japan

Oh Puddin! :groan:

ETA: GOT IT!

360° of Hard Rock Cafe exterior (http://www.hardrock.com/locations/cafes3/tour.aspx?LocationID=73&MIBenumID=3)
Just to the left of the store.

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2007, 11:24:48 PM
Glad your here Neobie! Good job  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on December 30, 2007, 11:44:31 PM
Nice work, Neobie!  :yess: It's just down the road from Osaka castle. It's too far to walk to Fukushima rail station from where they're at; maybe they still have the taxi task to do, or maybe the Hard Rock Osaka is getting a free plug.  ;D
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on December 30, 2007, 11:59:10 PM
Web Clues

One Racer begins showing signs of physical deterioration, prompting the Teammate to step up to the plate. But will it be enough?
One volatile relationship takes a turn for the worse. Will the Team be able to get it together before it's too late?
Taxi drivers have caused grief for Teams at the most inopportune times. Now, it's the revenge of the Racers as they don gloves and hats and drive Japanese passengers around the confusing streets of Osaka!

1. Nicolas/Donald, and if the Alaska spoiler is true, then yes.
2. There's clearly two choices here. Jen/Nate probably will (they managed to get over their issues this leg); Ron/Christina I'm less sure about
3. This sounds like a Roadblock - hopefully it'll be as awesome as TAR 7's bus roadblock.

EDIT - Just though of something: Nic/Don have a Detour clue but there's no sign of another team, so there's no Intersection this leg. If it's an elimination leg, then they've gotten rid of it for good  :yess: I don't even want to think about putting an Intersection on a leg with a speed bump, it would be too much like the MFE/Intersection/charter bus/FF disaster of last year.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on December 31, 2007, 12:01:17 AM
I'd say it's a roadblock too zackattack because the camera man has to fit into the taxi as well as the passengers
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 12:08:07 AM
 :badhorse:


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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 12:12:07 AM
:badhorse:

It's so hard to get inside that place  :pull
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on December 31, 2007, 12:19:23 AM
The actual castle or the garden puddin
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 12:27:56 AM
:badhorse:

It's so hard to get inside that place  :pull

 ;)  Oh, not that hard....   :lol3:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 12:31:56 AM
 :(  There's actually not much inside the actual modern-day concrete reconstructed castle.   :angel:

http://photoguide.jp/pix/thumbnails.php?album=96
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 12:33:39 AM
Very nice Boingo  :keeta:

Slowhatch, you once gave me a link to the statue dude but I can't find it. Can you link us again please?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on December 31, 2007, 12:41:06 AM
brb...

OK, the statue dude is Rennyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennyo); his statue is in the courtyard (between the street and the main temple) of the Kitamido (http://www.kitamido.or.jp/) (no English pages) in Osaka. I've looked through temple pics for any sign of a drum, but no luck.
To make things muddy I've found a nearly identical statue here (http://ha9.seikyou.ne.jp/home/Osamu.Kunimoto/rennyo-zou.jpg) (source page (http://ha9.seikyou.ne.jp/home/Osamu.Kunimoto/eiheiji.htm)). I can't read Japanese, so I have no idea about the location.

OK, just cleaning up the data. Windows live translator has some new languages--japanese, arabic, korean, etc.--so I've tracked the alternate location I mentioned to the Yoshizaki Gobo temple in Fukui prefecture. Seems Rennyo hightailed it out of town when the locals showed up with torches and pitchforks. So that can be discounted, and Kitamido is probably where Don/Nick were walking. Why? I don't know; it seems like an unremarkable place. Still haven't found the drum anywhere inside.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 31, 2007, 12:43:20 AM
Ya know I really have grown to like Ron and Chris even though Ron can be an ass, Ron and Christina should be eliminated in this leg right!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 12:47:10 AM
 :doh: Kansai International Airport (Arrivals) Osaka, Japan  :duh:  (but we all knew that...sorry)   :angel:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 31, 2007, 12:51:42 AM
TIMELINE: Dont hate me if I get it wrong

- Flight out of India to Kansai International Airport '
- Route Marker at Hard Rock Cafe?
- Roadblock at the gardens cuz Donald is on his own??

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Post by: Chateau d If on December 31, 2007, 01:06:59 AM
Just because non of you East Coasters have said it yet:  in this shot they are headed to the train station.

Nic tells Don that he may be able to get water at the train station.

So maybe the drum is in another city!   ;)

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Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 01:15:55 AM
Just because non of you East Coasters have said it yet:  in this shot they are headed to the train station.

Nic tells Don that he may be able to get water at the train station.

So maybe the drum is in another city!   ;)

 :pfft  Not all of us are "East Coasters"....   no, we haven't ruled out other cities.  In fact Osaka is very near Kyoto, Nara, Kobe, and others (with possible taikos).  Take your pick   ;)   I'm on record as picking Nara, but am open to suggestions.  So many places to look, so little time....  :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 01:32:35 AM
Oh I think Kobe, Kyoto for sure Boingo and I was in Nara but I forget why now? I think it was a temple thing looking for the drum/gong/taiko/daiko thingy.
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Post by: Slowhatch on December 31, 2007, 01:49:23 AM
Fwiw the Hard Rock Osaka (arrow) is just a couple of blocks from Kitamido temple (A). The resolution for Osaka is so good you can even catch a glimpse of Rennyo in the courtyard (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.684801,135.500282&spn=0.000314,0.000729&t=h&z=21&om=1).

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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 01:53:53 AM
Rennyo !!   thanks Slowhatch :yess:
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Post by: Slowhatch on December 31, 2007, 01:59:01 AM
Sorry, I should have sent a message; I just amended my post back on page 2.
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Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Nice work everyone! Not that you all need it   :lol: but I can confirm that Japan is 100%.....

And Kyoto would be a dynamite stop! My friend is there right now looking for that blasted drum but no luck so far... :js:
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Post by: Slowhatch on December 31, 2007, 02:26:02 AM
Also further south along the same axis is the Cui-daore ningyo (http://www.cui-daore.co.jp/en/top_map.html) (Osaka clown) seen in the intro caps.
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Post by: Boingo on December 31, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
 ;D  Just cleaning up a few loose ends.   :carryon:

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Post by: gingerman28 on December 31, 2007, 11:12:15 AM
There is something strange here.  We see shots of Don and Nick in a cab somewhere in Japan (I guess) but when we see the driver something is wrong.  If he is a taxi driver, he would be the first one I have ever seen on many trips to Japan who is not wearing white gloves while driving.  It is just something taxi drivers do.  (Also note in description of possible roadblock, it says "donning gloves and hats" they take the part of taxi drivers in Osaka.
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 11:23:30 AM
He looks almost like a limo driver Gman but what do I know? Is that how they dress? I've never been their  :waves:
Did we find the nearest train station?

Did anyone post the taxi service in Osaka? sorry in advance if I missed it.

Osaka taxi (http://www.infotaxi.org/city-2171.htm)

1. Toho Taxi Co., Ltd. 66592523 
2. Osaka Kojin Taxi Rengokai 67711437 
3. Inoyama Taxi Co., Ltd. 63282510 
4. Chidori Taxi Co., Ltd. 66612181 
5. Aozora Kotsu 67938180

In the central areas of the city, you will never have any trouble finding a taxi. They line the main street, Midosuji, 24-hours a day, waiting for passengers. In fact, the Osaka Municipal Transport Bureau concedes that Osaka has 30,000 more taxis than required. Now that`s a lot of vehicles. Bear in mind the fare - expect about 2000 yen for a ten minute trip.

It is easy to find a taxi in Osaka. In fact, there is a long queau of taxi in front of the JR Station opposite Hilton Hotel and Hanshin Department Store. If you are in the downtown area like Umeda Skyline, you will have no problem taking a taxi.

Taxi drivers, can be very crazy in japan. The streets are much smaller than the US and they do drive fast! Oh and don't try to stiff your driver. they'll prevent you grom getting out of the vehicle (The doors have no indoor handles)
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 11:55:11 AM
I'm not sure what this means, but I'll repost it here.

from our picture source labeled Osaka~

(http://i15.[banned image hosting site].com/6pi7zig.jpg)
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Post by: mswood on December 31, 2007, 11:59:32 AM
Well I guess one of the tasks is to make groovy love while getting stoned at look at point, based on that car.

So I think Tk & Rachel will do quite well.
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Post by: michael on December 31, 2007, 12:02:29 PM
is that a Taxi?
maybe it's the kind of taxi's teams will have to drive?

Is your picture source the same person who was the picture source from the african legs?
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 31, 2007, 01:12:11 PM
OMG that does sound like fun!
Oh my god, that sounds awesome.

And just a fun little memory Osaka is the first place I ever had someone flash me their privates.  I was 16.  He was I would guess 40 plus.
  :lol:  :groan: were they fuzzy?

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 01:15:15 PM
Yeah Michael it is and mswood never did answer me about the fuzzy private parts  ;)

found this on flickr~  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vee8/43382885/)
Nagomi-mobile

eta: I think its the same ??
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 31, 2007, 01:22:28 PM
Hello Kitty? Yeah, I can say having been to Taiwan, some taxi drivers will personalize their cabs like what you see above. Kind of foreign to me, but then again, a lot of things are foreign to me.  :duno: :duno:
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Post by: michael on December 31, 2007, 01:25:04 PM
apparently that stupid hello kitty show is very big in Japan
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 01:33:05 PM
As well as the Philippines so my bf tells me.
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Post by: Kogs on December 31, 2007, 02:24:48 PM
apparently that stupid hello kitty show is very big in Japan

when i was looking at the pics i thought the same thing :lol: i hate that store btw
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Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2007, 04:08:31 PM
Looks like due to flight delays I may be flying right thru the festivities so I'll wish you all an early :cheer:  :HNY: :cheer:  now!

See y'all in 2008!!
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 04:54:15 PM
Happy trails peachs!  :keeta:

I'll add this little dude found at a different picture source and he comes with a sad story (http://horacemann.usd259.org/jantz/japan/culture.htm) thanks to Slowhatch ~
Statues with Red Clothing:

     Visitors to the many Japanese temples will find a quiet, secluded area where there is a shrine to children who have died as infants.  The parents either decorate the one large statue with some type of red clothing to help send the infant's soul on to the next level of being or can have a small statue placed into the temple on a personal level and decorate that statue.  In addition to the red clothing, there may be flowers, glasses of water, or some personal article that is meaningful to the parent for the child.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13733.0;attach=44676;image)
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Post by: Oliver on December 31, 2007, 05:00:42 PM
If Next Week's Episode Is Not An Elemination Leg, Then Wouldn't That Mean There Will Be 4 Teams Racing In The Final Leg In Alaska? Since When Did The Amazing Race Have 4 Teams Racing In The Final Leg?

Would Make A Nice Exciting Episode Though... Although I'm Hearing Rumors That Nate And Jen Are Going To Win...  :'(

I Hope It's Not True And That Nicholas And Donald Come In First. I'd Love To See Don's Reaction. Him Getting First Place In Leg 7 Was So Funny.

"You Are Team NUMBER ONE." (Nick Was About To Give That Punch/High Five To Don, Only To Find That...) (Don Crouches Down And Shouts "YEAHHHHHH!!!!!" Like He's Won The Race)  :jumpy:
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Post by: Zack. on December 31, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
If Next Week's Episode Is Not An Elemination Leg, Then Wouldn't That Mean There Will Be 4 Teams Racing In The Final Leg In Alaska? Since When Did The Amazing Race Have 4 Teams Racing In The Final Leg?

Would Make A Nice Exciting Episode Though... Although I'm Hearing Rumors That Nate And Jen Are Going To Win...  :'(

I Hope It's Not True And That Nicholas And Donald Come In First. I'd Love To See Don's Reaction. Him Getting First Place In Leg 7 Was So Funny.

"You Are Team NUMBER ONE." (Nick Was About To Give That Punch/High Five To Don, Only To Find That...) (Don Crouches Down And Shouts "YEAHHHHHH!!!!!" Like He's Won The Race)  :jumpy:

True, but then again, they could just drop one halfway through (like with Bilal/Saeed in TAR 10). The safest bet is that this episode is an NEL and next week is an elimination (or funky TBC).

The rumor of Nate and Jen winning comes from puddin (who authored the dream crushing boot list of TAR:AS), so I'd say it's reliable (even though I'm personally not going to like it).
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Post by: Oliver on December 31, 2007, 08:50:39 PM
What does "TBC" stand for?   :groan:

Sorry, I'm new...  :(
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Post by: puddin on December 31, 2007, 09:08:07 PM
To Be Continued Oliver :yaya:
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Post by: Oliver on December 31, 2007, 09:13:36 PM
To Be Continued Oliver :yaya:

OHH OK THANKS!!

I always wondered what it meant...  :umn:
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Post by: apskip on December 31, 2007, 10:05:10 PM
Oliver:

We have 3 more legs left. If there is a TBC or NEL ending leg 9(the next one) in Osaka, then teams will do leg 10 in Taipei. When there is a pitstop there, as there has to be to make the 8th elimination and get AR12 down to the Final 3 Teams, all will be well. On the 11th leg, only 3 teams will advance to Alaska.
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Post by: serendipity on January 01, 2008, 01:30:59 AM
There was a very big festival (天神祭) in Osaka from 23 July to 25 July 2007, would there be any tasks related to this event?

http://album.blog.yam.com/BPHiL&folder=3064164

In the preview showing Nathan and Jennifer in HK airport, they were actually standing in front of an internet kiosk which can be found after checking in and clearing custom.
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Post by: gator27 on January 01, 2008, 06:41:30 AM
He looks almost like a limo driver Gman but what do I know? Is that how they dress? I've never been their  :waves:
Did we find the nearest train station?

Did anyone post the taxi service in Osaka? sorry in advance if I missed it.

Osaka taxi (http://www.infotaxi.org/city-2171.htm)

1. Toho Taxi Co., Ltd. 66592523 
2. Osaka Kojin Taxi Rengokai 67711437 
3. Inoyama Taxi Co., Ltd. 63282510 
4. Chidori Taxi Co., Ltd. 66612181 
5. Aozora Kotsu 67938180

In the central areas of the city, you will never have any trouble finding a taxi. They line the main street, Midosuji, 24-hours a day, waiting for passengers. In fact, the Osaka Municipal Transport Bureau concedes that Osaka has 30,000 more taxis than required. Now that`s a lot of vehicles. Bear in mind the fare - expect about 2000 yen for a ten minute trip.

It is easy to find a taxi in Osaka. In fact, there is a long queau of taxi in front of the JR Station opposite Hilton Hotel and Hanshin Department Store. If you are in the downtown area like Umeda Skyline, you will have no problem taking a taxi.

Taxi drivers, can be very crazy in japan. The streets are much smaller than the US and they do drive fast! Oh and don't try to stiff your driver. they'll prevent you grom getting out of the vehicle (The doors have no indoor handles)

Imagine you are in Osaka and hail a cab.  Now you find out you are part of an American Reality TV show :wohoo:.  I hope you are not in a hurry. :keeta:

The TAR producers must control those who hail a cab because each team needs to go to a similar location.

Happy New Year to all.
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Post by: apskip on January 01, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
There was a very big festival (天神祭) in Osaka from 23 July to 25 July 2007, would there be any tasks related to this event?

http://album.blog.yam.com/BPHiL&folder=3064164

In the preview showing Nathan and Jennifer in HK airport, they were actually standing in front of an internet kiosk which can be found after checking in and clearing custom.


serendipity, there might be. However, the first team arrival in Osaka is scheduled for 6pm , the rest for 7pm on the 25th so most of the Festival you mention would be over by then.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
EEK!! MAPS! I NEED MAPS!!

HELP PLEASE??!!


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,13671.msg234312.html#msg234312
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 01, 2008, 11:55:45 AM
Maps of what? Osaka? Boingo already pushpinned what we know so far. There's a download page (http://www.pref.osaka.jp/kotsudoro/kankou/kansaisightseeing/en_download.html) at the official Osaka site: a prefecture map, but what's neat is a "point-it-out" sheet for tourists.  ;D
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 12:45:50 PM
Yes thanks--Osaka, Taiwan, Anchorage whatever...I've been OOT and am running behind.  I'll add in that one.

I plan to steal Boingo's lovely GE but I can't find a pretty street map of Osaka to show the places Boingo has in GE...and I am so awful at GE....take pity guys! :(
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Post by: apskip on January 01, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
Peach, this is the 8th map of Osaka that I have considered. It doesn't have everything you want, but it is the best overall compromise in my opinion. Here it is:

Map of Central Osaka (http://www.hoteltravel.com/japan/osaka/shin_osaka_map.htm)
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 01:48:16 PM
I saw a pic in pic! BRB!!

I see Nick with a remote control robot, soccer?

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Post by: Chateau d If on January 01, 2008, 01:56:07 PM
This shot was taken here between 3:53 and 5:24 pm (assumes July 25th or 26th).
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 01:57:29 PM
...you guys are good, I know you can make something out of these

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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 01:59:34 PM
..lady--Chris? with a big white glove and the clown

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Post by: michael on January 01, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
I saw that robot on the discovery channel! Is that lady Christina?
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 02:14:15 PM
 :jumpy:   PLEN robot

Akazawa's PLEN robot story (http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=120)

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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 02:24:12 PM
 :angel:  same old...same old... it's our old clown friend....  ;)

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Post by: michael on January 01, 2008, 02:27:31 PM
good job on the robot find boingo! I knew I saw him on discovery channel - it was featured in some top 100 robots thing a couple of months ago
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 02:30:20 PM
official robot site:

http://www.plen.jp/

Apparently these can be controlled by cell phone or bluetooth too...

Heee...


Boingo is too speedy for me! :lol:
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 02:32:26 PM
This shot was taken here between 3:53 and 5:24 pm (assumes July 25th or 26th).

How does this jive with possible arrival times at Kansai Airport.  Given Kishiwada Castle is near the airport, I assume they go there to find their first clue.   :duno: 
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Post by: apskip on January 01, 2008, 02:45:23 PM
It doesn't at all, since the airport arrival times I have are 1750 and 1905. By the following afternoon, I expect teams to either be in Taipei or in a pitstop in Osaka.
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 02:45:44 PM
Can you stand one more?
 
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 02:55:19 PM
 :lol:   PLEN is made by Systec Akazawa Co.

fwiw, here is the company address in Osaka:

Systec Akazawa, Co.
2-47, Noda 6-chome, Fukushima-ku, Osaka City, Osaka 553-0005, Japan


URL:   http://www.akazawa.co.jp

map (http://www.akazawa.co.jp/esys001.htm)
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 02:56:58 PM
That robot is cute! ;D

Did we know that the clown is in front of a restaurant? Why did I think it was a toy store?  :groan:

Here's a review--we haven't had an eating task yet.... :lol:

http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/asia/japan/osaka/restaurant-detail.html?vid=1154654650552
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 03:05:27 PM
It doesn't at all, since the airport arrival times I have are 1750 and 1905. By the following afternoon, I expect teams to either be in Taipei or in a pitstop in Osaka.

interesting....hmmm...maybe the castle is the pitstop, given TARs fondness for using forts as pitstops.  :groan:   OK, another thing to consider.
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 03:09:37 PM
That robot is cute! ;D

Did we know that the clown is in front of a restaurant? Why did I think it was a toy store?  :groan:

Here's a review--we haven't had an eating task yet.... :lol:

http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/asia/japan/osaka/restaurant-detail.html?vid=1154654650552

That's what I was thinking, peach.  Osaka is the (exotic) gastronomic center of Japan (so to speak).  ;D
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 03:18:20 PM
lets see how crappy this is
 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/8.jpg)
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Post by: apskip on January 01, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
I am ready to be fearless in prediction. Peach's idea sounds so logical to me that I am forecasting that the first task after coming in from Osaka Kansai Airport will be at the Cuiadore restaurant behind the Osaka Clown, an eating task probably involving some sort of seafood(it's not likely to be a Kobe beef pigout).
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 03:26:01 PM
Searching for a clue at Osaka castle --as in Kishiwada
So we have driving the Osaka taxi's
Controlling Robots and an eating task?
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 04:03:12 PM
Just because non of you East Coasters have said it yet:  in this shot they are headed to the train station.

Nic tells Don that he may be able to get water at the train station.

So maybe the drum is in another city!   ;)

Still catching up here but could this just be for a subway train?
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 04:04:42 PM
 :lol:  I have NO idea on this one.   :(   Just throwing this out there.   :lol3: :groan: :neener:

ETA: actually, this neon sign is on Dontomburi-dori, the main entertainment street in Osaka.  Also happens to be where the clown is.   :snicker:

ETA:  OK, the daylight view of the sign looks like a match.   :yess:

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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
Have we seen the scary clown in action yet?  :lol:


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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 05:33:35 PM

 :lol:  Who knew, the scary clown has a twin brother.   :lol3:

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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 05:56:46 PM
So pretty much your Glico Man, and other scenes are from Ebisu Bridge, Boingo.

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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 06:14:30 PM
 :tup:  You're right, as usual, puddin.   :snicker:

FWIW, some filming locations in Kansai area (http://www.kippo.or.jp/KansaiWindowhtml/Collection/English/CategoryCode/CategoryCode_011.html)    :angel:

Osaka Film Council (http://www.osaka-fc.jp/) web site  (English version (http://www.osaka-fc.jp/index-e.html))
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Nice site Boingo  :keeta: .. more temples  :groan:

Does this look like the underside of a pagoda? is that a flag?  Wheres Neobie!? I bet he knows.

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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
Nice site Boingo  :keeta: .. more temples  :groan:

Does this look like the underside of a pagoda? is that a flag?  Wheres Neobie!? I bet he knows.


:tup:  good eye, puddin.  exactly what I was thinkin'.   I think it's written in Kanji.   :groan:    Maybe it's part of our temple?   :angel:
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 06:51:40 PM
 :keeta:  We're on a roll, puddin.  Let's try for a "hat trick" on this remaining pip vidcap.

I see a hat and not much else.  Could this be a racer in a taxi driver outfit?   :duno:  I'm clueless.

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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 06:53:23 PM
It looks like a big mickey mouse glove  :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 06:57:36 PM
Looks like a white glove demo lady holding the robot to me...
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 07:04:40 PM
I thought more like Christina in hat & gloves = taxi  :duno:
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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 07:13:00 PM
I thought more like Christina in hat & gloves = taxi  :duno:

 :snicker:  Watching the video helps.  Looks like "white glove" service, as the person is waving some white stick (?) next to a car (?) or something with open door (?).   :duno:   
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
Maybe if lucky we get more tomorrow Boingo.

Tons of electronic stores in Osaka = those PLEN robot's

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Post by: Boingo on January 01, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
Maybe if lucky we get more tomorrow Boingo.

Tons of electronic stores in Osaka = those PLEN robot's

he he.... I was just roaming around Nipponbashi this afternoon. 

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Nipponbashi (日本橋, Nipponbashi?) is a shopping district of Naniwa Ward, Osaka, Japan. The area extends north from the JR Shin-Imamiya Station on Sakaisuji Street, and is also within easy walking distance of the Namba entertainment/shopping district.

During the Edo period, this district was known as a stage (宿場町, Shukuba-machi?), called Nagamachi (長町, Nagamachi?). In 1792 and 1872, the Osaka municipal government renamed this district from Nagamachi to Nipponbashi. During the Meiji and Taishō periods, many second-hand bookshops opened there. After World War II, many consumer electronics stores are opened and it became well known as a Den Den Town.

 Den Den Town
Den Den Town (でんでんタウン, Den Den taun?), or Denki no machi (電気の町, Denki no machi?) is a shopping district in the Nipponbashi, famous for its wide variety of consumer electronics stores, and especially famous for its negotiable prices—unique to Osaka and the Kansai region. Several retailers are also tax and duty free. Den Den Town is probably the best area for getting hold of anime, manga and related figures. There are a huge number of stores providing vast amounts of goodies for fans of anime/manga.

 :lol:  I think I found a story about a PLEN robot (with a panda face) in a store in Nipponbashi (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://webpress.exblog.jp/4843296/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnipponbashi%2Bplen%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US)      :lol3:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2008, 08:03:28 PM
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There are a huge number of stores providing vast amounts of goodies for fans of anime/manga.

Oh my poor Goth... :'(

And I definitely think the babelfish is floating belly up after that one, Boingo! :lol: :lol3: :lol:  But the Panda was pretty cute!
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Post by: puddin on January 01, 2008, 08:07:24 PM
Oh I want one! I can scare me cats  :yess:

Anything on the producers Nagomi-mobile or where it might be located? I can't find anything  :duno:
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Post by: Neobie on January 02, 2008, 06:28:41 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14164.0;attach=45612;image)

Took me long enough to figure this one out! Try to match the kanji towards the bottom of the right pillar... ;D

(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/cityscience2/imgs/7/2/72e7ad5d.jpg)

It's the Kitamido Shrine! Nice hunch Boingo!

You escaped the room in 63min and 14s!
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 10:11:35 AM
Good job Boingo and Neobie!!
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Post by: Boingo on January 02, 2008, 11:13:53 AM

Took me long enough to figure this one out! Try to match the kanji towards the bottom of the right pillar... ;D

It's the Kitamido Shrine! Nice hunch Boingo!


 :faint:  so...what are you saying Neobie.... it was right in front of us all this time....  :groan:

....but but...didn't Slowhatch mention the Kitamido Temple with the Rennyo statue (just up the road from the Ito Building/Hard Rock Cafe in Osaka)?

http://www.kitamido.or.jp/index.html

Sonofabitch!   (:;)   :knuckles: :tantrum    Could the drum really be inside?   :ascared

 :shocking: :snics: :dknow :duh: :browsie: :wtf:   ...ummm...I need a moment....

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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 11:23:26 AM
Yup, Slowhatch's Rennyo  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redjoe/20691955/in/photostream/) was right there at Kita-mido this whole time but I can't get inside Boingo.

from you link ..maybe?

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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 11:27:11 AM
Flickr guy says:   (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redjoe/20691956/in/photostream/) :duno:
Hommachi, central Osaka. I must have passed by it several times before, but this was my first time going in.

ETA: so searching Hommachi brings this up, go figure, lol
Hard Rock CafeI to Building, 1F, 3-6-14Minami-Hommachi, Chuo-ku
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 11:54:01 AM
Just for the heck of it

Tsumura Betsuin
Click a number of map inside you can see an explanation of a historic scene
http://www.osaka-udce.or.jp/rekishi/uekita/topmape.htm
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 01:00:20 PM
More  B:)

I was led here ~ Honganji Temple (http://picasaweb.google.com/steve46814/JapanKyotoSShrinesAndTemples/photo#5084171246626921778), this is the place where the attached pictures above are from.
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Post by: Boingo on January 02, 2008, 01:54:35 PM
More  B:)

I was led here ~ Honganji Temple (http://picasaweb.google.com/steve46814/JapanKyotoSShrinesAndTemples/photo#5084171246626921778), this is the place where the attached pictures above are from.


:angel:  nice drum, puddin... but not ours!   :groan:    :pull    :lol:

BTW, did anyone else notice... none of the previews (as far as we know) are outside Osaka    :smoke
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 02:00:20 PM
Even the crappy promo said "Osaka"  :groan:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2008, 02:08:41 PM
I think my friend may be in Osaka one more day so I emailed him the details--hope he is still there!! He has a color picture of the drum in hand...   :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 05:08:02 PM
Thats too funny peach, I bet he finds the darn thing!!

press release~

*THE PHYSICALITY OF THE RACE TAKES ITS TOLL ON ONE OF THE RACER'S HEALTH,
*WHILE ANOTHER TEAM SUFFERS AN EMOTIONAL BREAKDOWN THAT THREATENS TO RUIN THEIR PERFORMANCE,
... ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," AT A SPECIAL EAST COAST TIME, SUNDAY, JAN. 6, 8:30-9:30 PM, ET;
8:00-9:00 PM, PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak on Us" —
*One Racer can't perform at a Roadblock due to physical exhaustion,
*while another Racer blows a gasket when their taxi driver drops them off at the wrong location,
...on THE AMAZING RACE 12, at a special East Coast time Sunday, Jan. 6 (8:30-9:30 PM, ET) on the CBS Television Network.  The West Coast broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE will air at its regular scheduled time (8:00-9:00 PM, PT).
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2008, 05:14:28 PM
Don at the roadblock?

Ron for the breakdown? :lol3:

How many RB's has Don done?? Can he afford to not do one? Big trouble if he already started though--that could be enough for an elim right there!
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 05:21:15 PM
I totally see Ron blowing the gasket. :pull :dick << Ron
I still call a NEL, it just has to be this episode.
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Post by: michael on January 02, 2008, 05:23:20 PM
The racer that blows a gasket has to be either Ron or Jen. They are the only two I can see getting angry out of all of the contestants left.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2008, 05:32:51 PM
I agree the NEL prob is this week too--but it could be next time too right? I know apskip says that makes flights dificult  but HEY KOGS--hasn't there often been a NEL  just before the last push to the finale?? The next to the last leg?

Isn't the penalty for not doing a RB something like 24 hours??  :ascared
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 05:35:25 PM
I agree the NEL prob is this week too--but it could be next time too right? I know apskip says that makes flights dificult  but HEY KOGS--hasn't there often been a NEL  just before the last push to the finale?? The next to the last leg?

Isn't the penalty for not doing a RB something like 24 hours??  :ascared
I think booking and taking the wrong class tickets is the 24 hour penalty and the RB is what 5 hours..BRB
And the race is different this season, 11 episodes not 13 so who knows what they have in store for us?
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Post by: michael on January 02, 2008, 05:36:11 PM
When Rob quit the meat roadblock in TAR7 the penalty was four hours that starts once the next team arrives at the RB -- and if you're last I guess it's just a four hour penalty.
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 05:39:51 PM
One of my all time favorite episodes Michael  :jumpy:

From Wiki:

 Penalties and time credits
The standard penalty for minor rule infractions is 30 minutes plus the time advantage gained (if any) by disobeying the rule. When the team arrives at a pit stop, Phil Keoghan will state "you are the nth team to arrive", and then he will inform them of the penalty or the missed clue. This penalty is known to apply when taking the wrong form  or a prohibited mode of transportation, not following the instructions on the clue, or interfering with other teams in ways such as (inadvertently) taking another team's assigned car or taking more than one clue from a clue box
If a team realizes they performed an infraction of the rules before they move on to the next task or check in, they can go back to the point where the infraction occurred and repeat the task as per the rules without any penalty outside of the time wasted to return to the task, unless their actions have interfered with another team, in which case a penalty is still applied. In some cases, a team that skips a Route Marker or performs a task incorrectly does not receive a penalty; rather, the racers will not be able to check in at the Pit Stop and will be told by host Phil Keoghan to complete the missed tasks.
If a team should quit a Roadblock, they are assessed a four-hour penalty starting from when the next team arrives. If a team should quit a Detour, they are assessed a 24-hour penalty (though this has only occurred once, when Nancy & Emily quit the Detour in Season 1).[26]
If a team's vehicle breaks down through no fault of their own or otherwise becomes inoperable, they may request a replacement vehicle without receiving a time penalty. However, no time credit is given for their wait in this unlucky situation.[27] (See The Amazing Race 2 Trivia).
In Season 10 and Season 11, teams that arrive last in non-elimination legs are assessed a 30-minute penalty upon completing the following leg unless they have arrived first, in which case no penalty is applied.
Teams that fly on business class tickets are assessed a 24 hour penalty.
Sometimes, teams are delayed by production difficulties. In early seasons, several teams were awarded time credits because of such difficulties
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Post by: Kogs on January 02, 2008, 05:41:51 PM
I agree the NEL prob is this week too--but it could be next time too right? I know apskip says that makes flights dificult  but HEY KOGS--hasn't there often been a NEL  just before the last push to the finale?? The next to the last leg?

Isn't the penalty for not doing a RB something like 24 hours??  :ascared

with the sunday airings theres has been a nel with a final 4. seasons 5,6,10,11 all had nels with final 4 vs final 3. i believe its a nel this week followed by an el in tawain and on the 20th race through alaska to end city
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2008, 05:51:42 PM
Thanks! Detours 24 hours--RB's 4+ hours--wonder what happens if you are the last team and there is no next team? :lol:

Thanks kogs! But that would be the 29th...

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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 05:57:47 PM
Thanks! Detours 24 hours--RB's 4+ hours--wonder what happens if you are the last team and there is no next team? :lol:

Thanks kogs! But that would be the 29th...


Your eliminated, lol and I'll guess that Kogs means Jan 20th , finale.
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Post by: Kogs on January 02, 2008, 09:10:19 PM
Thanks! Detours 24 hours--RB's 4+ hours--wonder what happens if you are the last team and there is no next team? :lol:

Thanks kogs! But that would be the 29th...


Your eliminated, lol and I'll guess that Kogs means Jan 20th , finale.

sorry for not speaking english.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2008, 10:07:14 PM
oops! :-[
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 02, 2008, 10:11:13 PM
lol it is mint to read the rules  :wohoo:
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Post by: puddin on January 02, 2008, 11:25:44 PM
lol it is mint to read the rules  :wohoo:
:browsie: :geekon:
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Post by: mswood on January 02, 2008, 11:33:08 PM
To the penalty.  When it happened to Rob & Amber (not to mention Gretchen & Meredith and Ray & Deana) it was 4 hours starting when the next team arrived at the roadblock.

But in season 6, in the next to last leg (it was the last episode).  Hayden and Aaron were the last teams to arrive at the roadblock and after not finding the right lock and the place about to close Hayden asked aaron what would happen.  And its they take a 4 hour penalty.  Now of course that Aaron so what does he know.

But at the Mat, Phil does tell them that they have been penalized 4 hours (and really 1 minute is enough to let Adam & Rebecca check in official as team #3.

So based on scenes in season 6 and 7,  It appears if you aren't last to the roadblock its 4 hours plus (starting when the next team arrives at the roadblock).  But if you are last at the roadblock its just 4 hours.

Which does make sense.  If a team has a huge starting advantage (either from luck, a strong previous leg, or a strong current leg) it doesn't give them the option of just saying hey we have 4 hours lets just not to the roadblock.
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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 10:18:53 AM
Robots are a detour

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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 10:21:46 AM
 :yess: so we know this is the roadblock

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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 10:38:12 AM
Jen "no one speaks English"  :lol:

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Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 10:55:19 AM
 :lol:  I see the sign for the fugu restaurant down by Tsutenkaku Tower . 

 :lol3:  I hope the eating task is fugu (poison blowfish).   :snicker:

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Post by: Chateau d If on January 03, 2008, 10:56:22 AM
I wonder if they can hire a taxi to guide them?   :lol3:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0027.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 11:02:04 AM
Chateau :lol:

So if Nick is driving who does the clue refer to?

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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 11:04:50 AM
SEE CBS hype, this just has to be Don  :res:
*One Racer begins showing signs of physical deterioration, prompting the Teammate to step up to the plate. But will it be enough?
*One Racer can't perform at a Roadblock due to physical exhaustion

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Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 11:09:48 AM
 ;D  FWIW,  link to RoboCup 2005 Osaka (http://www.robocup2005.org/home/default.aspx)
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Post by: patlini on January 03, 2008, 11:16:22 AM

So if Nick is driving who does the clue refer to?

hmm I thought for sure it was Don.

I would love for it to be Jen, maybe little Rachel
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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
redo~

 

also here when ready, I think~

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=U9A2ZK89
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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 12:58:52 PM
Hey CBS woke up! YAY! I'll get better screencaps up in a bit.
http://alpha.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race12/
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Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 01:00:35 PM
 :angel:  The gates appear to be similar to gates at the JR station (Kansai Airport).  Probably not at airport, but could be another JR station in Osaka.  (Doesn't match any Osaka Subway gates I've googled, yet.)   ;D

JR = Japan Rail

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Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 01:04:02 PM
 :duno:  They could be running towards an (elevated) JR station somewhere in Osaka.

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Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 01:24:41 PM
Good job Boingo
 :keeta:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 02:07:26 PM

:jumpy:  It's the Hilton Plaza West Office Tower

2-2-2 Umeda
Kita-ku Osaka

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Post by: Slowhatch on January 03, 2008, 02:31:55 PM
Nice catch.  :tup: It's near the Nishi-Umeda station, that might be a possibility for the caps. Map here (http://www.infomapjapan.com/images/map/Umeda_map_web.pdf); they also have a map of the Namba area showing Kuidaore, etc.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 03:48:20 PM
 :badhorse:
Hilton Plaza (East & West)

hee hee.... the bowl shaped structure on the HERBIS Ent building next door is a helipad.  :tup:  way cool!

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
pretty amazing how clear Osaka is on GE, good job Boingo! Your on a roll  :keeta:  :jam:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 03, 2008, 03:56:47 PM
Lol  Jen looks pretty pissed at the japanese passengers :P or maybe she had too much caffeine that day? I'm Japanese Aussie here haha. its so awesome that they get to travel to Osaka. Do Ron and Chris know Japanese or a little Japanese? I think it would have been humiliating for them to get eliminated in an Asian country if the Taiwan spoiler is right.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on January 03, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
Ron and Christina are Chinese, not Japanese, right?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 03, 2008, 04:03:47 PM
yep. But most Japanese characters are derived from Chinese characters. Oh well, its still a different language altogether. I was hoping they would know some Japanese. lol.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on January 03, 2008, 04:04:33 PM
Well it would help them, that's for sure.

PS:
welcome to RFF jovian_w2002
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: jovian_w2002 on January 03, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
lol thanks. im starting to think that the Taiwan leg has an intersection task.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gingerman28 on January 03, 2008, 04:10:06 PM

*One Racer can't perform at a Roadblock due to physical exhaustion



If driving a taxi through the congested streets is the Roadblock, how is this physically exhausting??????

And it must be a roadblock since we can see the red roadblock clue in Christina's lap when she is driving.

Perhaps it means that when they finally get to the roadblock and before they read the clue (teams have to decide who is going to do the roadblock before they actually know what they have to do), Don is so physically exhausted he tells Nick that he has to drive since he is "too physically exhausted" to do so.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 03, 2008, 05:05:56 PM
It's hard to tell from the caps, but if the robot soccer takes place at the Akazawa plant, then it's not too far (http://www.akazawa.co.jp/esys001.htm) from the other activities (if you want a PLEN, it's all yours (http://www.roboporium.com/bipedkits.html)--for $2390  ;D).
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 07:03:41 PM
It's hard to tell from the caps, but if the robot soccer takes place at the Akazawa plant, then it's not too far (http://www.akazawa.co.jp/esys001.htm) from the other activities (if you want a PLEN, it's all yours (http://www.roboporium.com/bipedkits.html)--for $2390  ;D).

 :ascared  This is getting weird.  Maybe, as puddin says, the robots are at the Yodobashi store, which just happens to be just north of Hilton Plaza / Osaka Station.  Weird how all these places are so close together.   :duno:

I think I spotted a candidate for the Ron/Christina crosswalk close by also....   :lol:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 07:36:50 PM
haha, do you think that Yodobashi store is big enough  :ascared?
So do you all think our pitstop is the mystery temple, introflash picture place? I can't see where it could fit in as far as a task? *must keep searching*  (:;) :dick
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 03, 2008, 08:03:15 PM
Osaka in the 2007 finals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICgL1OWsn58). Twice as exciting as real soccer, and a lot more action than Galaxy is getting out of Beckham for its $250M.  :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 03, 2008, 08:08:58 PM
haha, do you think that Yodobashi store is big enough  :ascared?
So do you all think our pitstop is the mystery temple, introflash picture place? I can't see where it could fit in as far as a task? *must keep searching*  (:;) :dick

 :groan:  stop...stop...my brain hurts.....  :lol:

OK, let me see if I can get this straight:
Roadblock  --->  Taxi
Detour (1)  --->  Robots
Detour (2)  --->  ? (unknown)

So what does that leave:
Kishiwada Castle - Get a clue? / pitstop ? (possiblly)
Rennyu statue Temple - Get a clue? / pitstop (possibly)
Osaka Clown - get a clue on the bridge? / eating task (unlikely, as they are typically roadblocks)
Fugu restaurant - probably only background shot
Racer says something about train?  None of the previews shows anything outside Osaka?

AND DON"T GET ME STARTED ON THAT DAMN DRUM !!!!!!! :pull  :lol3: :lol:  My brain hurts!
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on January 03, 2008, 10:24:33 PM
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Osaka Clown - get a clue on the bridge? / eating task (unlikely, as they are typically roadblocks)

I'm leaning towards the eating task as the other detour for some reason - while it's usually a roadblock, there still have been some instances of it being a Detour (sausagefest of TARAS, octopus in TAR 4). If not that, then it could just be a miscellaneous task (which I've been missing in this season, so yay if true).
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2008, 11:31:10 PM
:angel:  The gates appear to be similar to gates at the JR station (Kansai Airport).  Probably not at airport, but could be another JR station in Osaka.  (Doesn't match any Osaka Subway gates I've googled, yet.)   ;D

JR = Japan Rail

Lets try this again
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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
As much as I would love for them to go to Kyoto too, I think that the "train station" comment probably was referring to the train station as in subway train...
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 01:38:11 AM
As much as I would love for them to go to Kyoto too, I think that the "train station" comment probably was referring to the train station as in subway train...
It maybe editing too. We're led to believe that Nick asks Don if hes OK in the cab after they search the castle grounds for what we think is looking for a clue, maybe all tasks are done and they are heading to the pitstop/train to somewhere?  :duno:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2008, 04:19:02 AM
heeee...a gif for Boingo and his drum!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 04, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
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 :umn:  OK, lets analyze this vidcap, shall we.  Cris is not wearing her backpack, and she has an (unopened) clue in her hand.  She can't open/read the clue without her partner close by.  Maybe she just finished a task, got her clue and looks toward Ron.  What she's doing in a subway/train station is anyone's guess, but probably not going anywhere far without her backpack.   :duno:  OK, my brain is overheating again, got to stop.   :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 10:33:28 AM
We can find this right? good thinking Boingo because the same here -- Jen with clue in hand, no backpack might have just completed the roadblock or is starting? long shot the person deep in the background is Christine, green shirt black pants  :res:.  What are those 4 yellow lines on the ground for?

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on January 04, 2008, 10:35:22 AM
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 :umn:  OK, lets analyze this vidcap, shall we.  Cris is not wearing her backpack, and she has an (unopened) clue in her hand.  She can't open/read the clue without her partner close by.  Maybe she just finished a task, got her clue and looks toward Ron.  What she's doing in a subway/train station is anyone's guess, but probably not going anywhere far without her backpack.   :duno:  OK, my brain is overheating again, got to stop.   :lol:

Perhaps it's after the taxi roadblock - for this roadblock, it could be stipulated that backpacks must be left with the non-participating racers (or else it might just be in the trunk, I dunno).

I think that the subway/train station is the start/finish of the roadblock - it is a place where one should be able to find a taxi relatively easily and it matches up with Don's comment on how he can get water at the (train) station. Not to mention the fact that since Don needs water, it could be the "health issue" that leads Nick to take the roadblock. For the actual roadblock, I would guess that they have to earn a certain amount of money without pissing off the customers.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on January 04, 2008, 11:09:51 AM
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7996/linesma2.gif)

Service information for the blue and green lines (http://www.kotsu.city.osaka.jp/ct/image000000500/subway_number.gif) would put us... in Honmachi (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%AC%E7%94%BA%E9%A7%85)?

And that could potentially explain the Rennyo and the Hard Rock Cafe! (Nick and Don are standing outside Exit 9 (http://www.kotsu.city.osaka.jp/eigyou/shisetsu/station/eki_chijou/hommachi.html), while the temple is on Exit 2.)

Have fun clicking around (http://www.kotsu.city.osaka.jp/eigyou/shisetsu/station/hommachi.html), the station is HUGE, and the station diagrams are... incredible!

On the yellow lines by Puddin: those are markers for the visually-impaired, kind of a geographical version of Braille to guide commuters to the gantries and to the train platforms. Kind of in wide usage throughout East and Southeast Asia...
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 11:43:46 AM
Thanks Neobie, I love your little race like arrow  :kuss:

Is that a "H" ? I was looking for Hilton but it might not even be "H" for all I know :lol3:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 04, 2008, 11:44:27 AM
 :lol: I found the same blue & green signs in the JR Osaka Station  ;D


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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gator27 on January 04, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
Didn't I see a GE of the Osaka airport on an isthmus in the bay?  How do racers get from the airport to downtown?  Subway train?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 04, 2008, 11:49:52 AM
Unless they backtrack, they'll probably go to Kishiwada first. There's a station at Kishiwada (and KIX Kansai), but I'm guessing they'll go by cab.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 04, 2008, 11:54:01 AM
Didn't I see a GE of the Osaka airport on an isthmus in the bay?  How do racers get from the airport to downtown?  Subway train?

They take a taxi from the airport

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 04, 2008, 12:04:39 PM
Didn't I see a GE of the Osaka airport on an isthmus in the bay?  How do racers get from the airport to downtown?  Subway train?
Right you are, gator27. Here is an excerpt from an airport guide for Osaka:

Osaka, Japan

Kansai International Airport (KIX)
Located on a spectacular artificial island in the waters of Osaka Bay, one of the largest natural harbours on Japan's coast, KIX serves Kansai, an area that includes the cities of Osaka, Kyoto, Nara, Kobe and Wakayama.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 01:32:42 PM
"I dunno", maybe I'm an idiot ~

KITAHAMA,Osaka   (http://www.japanican.com/hotels/ShisetsuDetail.aspx?ar=A09&st=6491042&pr=-20000)

ETA: darn confusing Japenese! Boingo says this is what its called not KITAHAMA http://www.cityroute.jp/

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 01:33:55 PM
Just because :badhorse:

Large Bronze Statue of Rennyo Shonin at the 16th Century Buddhist temple of Kito Mida - Rennyo (蓮如, Rennyo) (1415-1499) was the 8th abbot of the Jōdo Shinshū sect of Buddhism and is often referred to as the restorer of the sect (or, the second founder), and for this is also referred to as Rennyo Shonin ("eminent monk"). Rennyo is responsible for a revitalization period in Jōdo Shinshū history where in which the religion was popularized for the masses. Despite being a pacifist, his populist attitude and charismatic preaching indirectly and inadvertently led into the Ikkō-ikki revolts in which mobs of monks, peasants and farmers launched organized attacks on their feudal rulers. He was also known as Shinshō-in (信証院), and posthumously Etō Daishi (慧灯大師).

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2008, 02:02:18 PM
Darn! From my friend in Osaka--

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First time that I've been able to get on email since we got back to Osaka and unfortunately it is Friday night and we are leaving on the bullet train first thing tomorrow morning to get back to Tokyo and catch our plane. I've kept my eyes open and we've hit quite a few temples and shrines, but have not seen the drum.  Wish I had time to get by the Kitamaido Shrine, but it is not possible.  Sorry.


Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 04, 2008, 02:48:27 PM
 :lol3:  hee-hee puddin, I think the "Kitahama" refers to the "street or area" as in "Kitahama 4-Chome, Osaka"   :lol:   Guess we keep on lookin'.

Must be a conspiracy against TAR detectives.   :snicker:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 04, 2008, 03:07:51 PM
 :js:  OK, let's get serious....  :lol3:    Looking closely at those "windows", looks like it's slightly arched.  It's rather large, as we only see about half the arch.  The yellow "seeing impaired bumps" on the pavement suggest a "public" area such as a train/subway station.   The opening is quite wide.

 :groan: Not that we haven't figured all that out already.   :angel:   Nothing like beating a "dead horse".

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BTW: what's up with that guy in the red jumpsuit with a "hoover" strapped to his back?   :lol:   :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 03:09:08 PM
For all I flippin know all those Hotels or buildings have that thingywhatevermajig in the front Boingo .
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
:js:  OK, let's get serious....  :lol3:    Looking closely at those "windows", looks like it's slightly arched.  It's rather large, as we only see about half the arch.  The yellow "seeing impaired bumps" on the pavement suggest a "public" area such as a train/subway station.   The opening is quite wide.

 :groan: Not that we haven't figured all that out already.   :angel:   Nothing like beating a "dead horse".

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0035-1.jpg)

BTW: what's up with that guy in the red jumpsuit with a "hoover" strapped to his back?   :lol:   :lol3:
Well there is a pink awning in the background  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: colav10 on January 04, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
Check out this episode synopsis:

I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak on Us: One racer is too tired to perform at a roadblock; another racer is livid when the taxi drivers lets the team out in the wrong spot; one team is eliminated.

All those that say this episode is a nonelim, please note that the description clearly states a team will be eliminated.


Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Tyler on January 04, 2008, 08:50:36 PM
Maybe that's why it says 1,000,000 on some of the pictures. It's like...Which team will get the chance to win the 1,000,000.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Belle Book on January 05, 2008, 10:55:05 AM
Check out this episode synopsis:

I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak on Us: One racer is too tired to perform at a roadblock; another racer is livid when the taxi drivers lets the team out in the wrong spot; one team is eliminated.

All those that say this episode is a nonelim, please note that the description clearly states a team will be eliminated.




So, that means that a team's actually eliminated?  If I'd known that when I made my prediction, I wouldn't have said it was a non-elimination leg!  I sure hope it's not Ron & Christina who get eliminated!  T.K. & Rachel or Nicholas & Donald will do, and certainly Nathan & Jennifer will do for me!  But I know that the Bickersons won't be eliminated, sad to say.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gingerman28 on January 05, 2008, 12:45:58 PM
It doesn't at all, since the airport arrival times I have are 1750 and 1905. By the following afternoon, I expect teams to either be in Taipei or in a pitstop in Osaka.

If the teams arrive in Osaka at either 5:50PM or 7:05PM and it is estimated that they are in Taiwan late the next afternoon, how can Chateau's estimated times of between 3:53 and 5:24 be correct.

Are you challenging the accuracy of our time garu?  He hasn't been wrong yet!
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gingerman28 on January 05, 2008, 12:59:57 PM
In shot of Nick and Don in front of the Hard Rock Cafe, we see Nick holding the DETOUR envelope with the double arrow.  They must be deciding which task to perform: GOAL or BOWL?

In Goal, both players must score a goal with the robots.  In Bowl perhaps they have to consume a bowl of terrible tasting food of some sort.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 03:18:48 PM
Cripes, its dead in here today (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/deadthread.gif). Too bad CBS never put the extra clip up, thats 2 weeks in a row and I'm taking it personally (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/tantrumsmiley.gif), perhaps putting up the Survivor cast wore them out  :res:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 05, 2008, 03:32:27 PM
Puddin, I guess they got word that there are smart people like you figuring it out without the extra clips :lol3:

There is 28 hours left hehe.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 03:48:16 PM
Well I'm not that smart Mama, really I have no idea what might happen this episode :popcorn:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: MamaTo4boys on January 05, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
Awww its ok. :'( It looks like you have alot figured out for us. I just KNOW its going to be an awesome episode. See how great of a TAR detective I can be  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 05, 2008, 05:15:21 PM
 :lol:  Travel Channel is showing right now it's Bizarre Foods show in Taiwan.  If the food task isn't in Osaka, then Taiwan surely can be the place.  Uuuugh...stinky tofu.    :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
:lol:  Travel Channel is showing right now it's Bizarre Foods show in Taiwan.  If the food task isn't in Osaka, then Taiwan surely can be the place.  Uuuugh...stinky tofu.    :lol3:
I've got it on! Thanks for the heads up Boingo  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 05, 2008, 05:39:52 PM
:lol:  Travel Channel is showing right now it's Bizarre Foods show in Taiwan.  If the food task isn't in Osaka, then Taiwan surely can be the place.  Uuuugh...stinky tofu.    :lol3:
I've got it on! Thanks for the heads up Boingo  :jumpy:

BTW, Anthony Bourdain did a show on Osaka earlier this week also on Travel Channel.  Interestingly, Andrew Zimmer, host of Bizarre Foods, could not eat the "stinky tofu" at a specific restaurant.   And this guy eats everything.   :lol3:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 05:55:05 PM
Some of the dish's looked yummy, I love anything with noodles but the creamy rooster testicles, NO freaking way  :ascared! UHUH!
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gingerman28 on January 05, 2008, 09:36:40 PM
Nobody seems to be making an effort to dope out what happens in ep 9.  Have all the great TAR detectives taking a vacation?  Where is Chateau when we need him?  Lots of shots of people and good strong sunlight, but no time estimates.

No speculation?

And why don't we see more of TK and Rachel?  One shot at Osaka airport and one shot in a taxicab. But no shots of them doing anything.  Wonder why?  And it can't be because of a Fast Forward since there are no more; can't be a Yield; can't be a U Turn; so what is it?

And for once no lovely buying tickets at the airport in Mumbai.

Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
We're speculating that Rachel & TK are far ahead Gman and Chateau has given us a time of Don on the Kishiwada Castle steps but other than that I don't know what else we can look for? I'm still hunting for that darn golden taiko thinking it must mean something, it must lead us somewhere  :pull
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Neobie on January 05, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
Well, there was a misplaced shot of a Korean airport earlier this season (TAR12.6), in Prague of all places! Did anyone notice?

I wonder if it belongs to this episode?

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Post by: puddin on January 05, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
Your the first one to mention it as far as I know Neobie  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 05, 2008, 11:03:21 PM
Good eye! It matches the style and font of signs used at the Incheon airport (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74144993@N00/431383694/).
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: serendipity on January 06, 2008, 05:35:39 AM
Neobie, I noticed that airport shot when I saw that episode too, and I felt strange that why there are Chinese words in an European airport.  :lol:

trying to find any connection through Seoul, but haven't got any solution yet. However, when I try to find the connection via Hong Kong, I got this earlier arrival time, which might be what the other teams go for:

24 JUL 07
BOM HKG 2340 0755+1 AI 0358
HKG PVG 0900 1115   CX 0368
PVG KIX 1230 1525   NH 0156

So they could arrive at 15:25 (25 Jul 07)

Edited: Oops, I made a mistake, there's actually a faster connection!

24 JUL 07
BOM HKG 2340 0755+1 AI 0358
HKG KIX 1020 1440

I think this is a very quick connection, if all other teams took this flight, I just don't understand how TK/Rachel got an earlier arrival than this one.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2008, 07:23:25 AM
I found the Mumbai to Hongkkong AI358 in the current Air India schedule, but it may not have been operating on July 24.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: serendipity on January 06, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
I am not sure, I just found this info on airwise.com
But this arrival time will match Chateau's time estimate.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 06, 2008, 11:30:45 AM
I am not sure, I just found this info on airwise.com
But this arrival time will match Chateau's time estimate.

Yeah ariwise does show it for July 24th.  Though their records don't always, match what we see.  They are usually pretty close.

Bit as you mention in the another post above, it doesn't explain how other teams didn't see them.  THough this could be either the main groups flight or Tk & Rachel's.

Going to look some more.  For the hell of it.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 06, 2008, 11:53:00 AM
God, where is Chateau when you need him.

I have a possibility awaiting apskip to shot me down (or Chateau for that matter).

We know the day started at 6am on the 24th. 

We have one possible flight that can get teams in at 2:40, that could account for Chateau's time estimate for Nicolas & Donald, but doesn't explain the other teams never seeing Tk & Rachel (not even at the airport).

We have also had a short (less then ten hour Pit Stop).

COuld Tk & Rachel have checked in early enough (with or without a shorter then 12 hour Pit Stop) to catch either of these flights to Delhi:

1.  any of the 8pm flights such as IC 605 departs 8pm arrives in Delhi at 9:55pm
or
the 8:20 flight G8 375 departs 8:20pm arrives in Delhi at 10:15pm

Those might allow the use of this flight from Delhi to Osaka
CZ 360 that departs Delhi at 10:55pm and arrives in Osaka at 1:50pm on the 25th.

That would explain Nicolas & Donald not seeing them at the airport, because it would be very tight with either flight to get out.  ANd that would also require a razor thin connection in Delhi.

But is it possible?  With doing the days tasks to be finished in under 2 hours (or is it possible that we have less then 12 hours for the Pit Stop, which would really help this scenario)?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2008, 12:06:26 PM
Teams started at 6am, then had to figure out where the ad was, then go there, then go to the DETOUR, then go to a roadblock, then to the pistop. The driving alone betweeen all those sites would be at least 2 hours and the tasks another 2 hours. Nobody could have checked in much before 10am. Assume a 12 hour pitstop(not anything less) plus time to get to the Mumbai International Airport(at least 30 minutes plus time for booking and checking in for the flight. I don't see anything before 10pm as possible.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 12:41:29 PM
Okay, here is another time based of the shadow line on the cylinder.

This shot was taken here between 2:57 and 4:23 pm (assumes July 25th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/30Dec0021.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 12:55:06 PM
Did we ever get a location for this shot:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0018.jpg)

It is shaded where they are but bright in the far background.  Does not provide much time resolution but could pin down a 3 or 4 hour span.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 12:56:49 PM
Similarly with these shots:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0034.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0043-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 06, 2008, 12:57:55 PM
Without having access to my computer, to check last week's episode in more detail.

I can't comment on driving time and distance.

But those tasks, and if you knew what you where doing shouldn't have taken that much time. 

I know by the shots of Tk & Rachel that they finished the newspaper clue near sunrise which was a little after 6.  I know that Rachel's a florist (and after talking to two local florists) that tasks should have taken much time  at all, if you were used to handling flowers and doing any garlands (not all florist do garlands, but it isn't uncommon).  Tk (if his guidance was accurate) could have finished the roadblock quite quickly.  As both locations were nearby (the key was getting accurate directions and how fast you could lug up the tanks, which he seemed to have no problem.  This team could have finished the combined tasks under an hour easily. 

The big problem is traffic and driving.   From accounts I have read traffic can be mind numbing slow, or very, very quick passed (and not that safe). 

For example, Kynt & Vyxsin said the time it took to travel to and complete and travel back from for the speed bump was 30-40 minutes.  If they were accurate where they eat up a lot of time was when the cabs took them to the wrong locations or were just lost.

In Tk & Rachel's Mat Chats they mention that their cabs for this leg were really good. 

Though do agree that with travel to airport (which for some reason, was not even considering) and even with a rush boarding that wouldn't leave them with enough time even for the 8:20 flight.

But with three out of 8 legs already having odd Pit Stop times (not  the usual 12,24, or 36), that it is a possibility for this leg, and that we should at least consider that as a way to explain teams getting there the 25th, with enough separate that no team even saw Tk & Rachel at the starting airport (unless that is just how they edited it).

Plus damn it, I want to get one flight right. :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 12:58:47 PM
I think that was a "maybe could be here" but nothing definite shot Chateau--I'll look.

Meanwhile, any ideas on the Mat arrival times from last week? ;D
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 12:59:51 PM
This one would give a good time is Jenn was only standing up  :angel:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0025-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 06, 2008, 01:03:33 PM
Definitely a Breast Man, aren't you Chateau?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 06, 2008, 01:19:04 PM
:lol:  Travel Channel is showing right now it's Bizarre Foods show in Taiwan.  If the food task isn't in Osaka, then Taiwan surely can be the place.  Uuuugh...stinky tofu.    :lol3:
My parents love stinky tofu. I, on the other hand, hate stinky tofu.  :res: :res:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 06, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
Definitely a Breast Man, aren't you Chateau?
Jen certainly does show the cleavage, doesn't she? :boobs: :boobs: :boobs: :boobs:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 01:31:00 PM
Does anyone think that there could possibly be a true TBC instead of a NEL??

That would solve the flight issues and I've given up on trying to figure out the Pitstop times...   :pull
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on January 06, 2008, 01:33:04 PM
what do you mean by true TBC?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 01:36:22 PM
I was wondering if the camera man rode in the platform of one of the gas delivery bikes while the sound man pedals.

Here he is:  running!   TK finishing the Roadblock

This shot was taken between 9:15 and 9:45 am (assumes July 24th).

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 01:42:25 PM
This shot was taken between 9:53 and 9:57 am (assumes July 24th).

Shot just before Nic barfs

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 01:46:48 PM
Nice shot Chateau!!  We don't see the camera guys too often!

You know Michael : "the leg is not over--you are still racing--etc..."

If we truly believe the Taiwan spoiler then R/C should be gone before the teams get to Taipei 101 right? Hence elim'd THIS week and not next, which would mean no NEL this week.

But if you flight guru's are having trouble getting them to Taipei on time--then a TBC  instead of a NEL (if you think that might happen) is one way of solving the problem.  I think! :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: michael on January 06, 2008, 01:49:06 PM
Well, the spoiler only said that somebody mentioned what the asians would say if they saw this place doesn't it? That doesn't mean they are eliminated.

I never bought that spoiler just because it seemed so weird that the racers would refer to Ron and Christina as "The asians" after racing for more than 2 weeks together.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 06, 2008, 01:58:10 PM
Chateau  :groan: :lol: :pull

I can't believe I never noticed Nicolas' watch.  (I would assume around this time give or take Tk & Rachel are getting to the Mat)

So for any of my early flights, I need another weird ass Pit Stop.  Be curious if it happens.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 02:07:09 PM
Did we ever get a location for this shot:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/amazingrace12/EP9/03Jan0018.jpg)

It is shaded where they are but bright in the far background.  Does not provide much time resolution but could pin down a 3 or 4 hour span.

Chateau go here:

http://www.hardrock.com/locations/cafes3/tour.aspx?LocationID=73&MIBenumID=3

select the 360 front exterior tour and see what you think...

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 02:10:13 PM
The shots of teams checking in at Bandra Fort are either in overcast or shadowless due to the sun being straight overhead.  That, Sun straight up , was between 12 noon and 1:30 pm.

About the Taipei 101 spoiler, I really question if the second-hand translation of the sequence of events can be taken with precise verbal accuracy.  Did the spopiler source really make the correct English word choice:  "if" or "when"

Quote
he heard the girl say something like “I wonder what the Asians would say if they came to this place”. 

I know from trying to learn a few foreign languages that those little connective words get mangled going both ways.   :umn:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 02:13:56 PM
That's true...
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 02:31:20 PM
Chateau--boingo thought that was near a train stop:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14164.msg245814.html#msg245814
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 02:33:25 PM
And maybe our racers (Jen or Nate) did not say 'the Asians' but said something like

"I wonder what Ron & Christina will say when they get here since they have Chinese roots"

And it just gets reworked by the telephone-game effect.

Peach, I checked that 360 view and I don't think that is the place.  I know that Don and Nick are there in another shot but the shot of Ron & Christina crossing is someplace else.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 02:39:46 PM
Boingo also found this...

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14164.msg245822.html#msg245822

sorry--I'm going thru page by page here! :pull

Here: he has a kmz...

It's hard to tell from the caps, but if the robot soccer takes place at the Akazawa plant, then it's not too far (http://www.akazawa.co.jp/esys001.htm) from the other activities (if you want a PLEN, it's all yours (http://www.roboporium.com/bipedkits.html)--for $2390  ;D).

 :ascared  This is getting weird.  Maybe, as puddin says, the robots are at the Yodobashi store, which just happens to be just north of Hilton Plaza / Osaka Station.  Weird how all these places are so close together.   :duno:

I think I spotted a candidate for the Ron/Christina crosswalk close by also....   :lol:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14164.msg245903.html#msg245903
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 06, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
Also this one:  Chateau--boingo thought that was near a train stop:

That looks about right except for being less tall (and full of tents!).

But that style of elevated roadway may be in wide general use for JR.

That last one may be any time of day with or without racers present.

I don't see the crosswalk shot in my GE view of the Yodobashi store.  Where is the long straight elevated raodway?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 06, 2008, 04:10:36 PM
Calling  BOINGO! :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Belle Book on January 06, 2008, 06:39:59 PM
Yeah, maybe Jennifer actually said something that was later mistranslated.  That can happen.  This might give me some hope that Ron & Christina make it to Taipei.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: bingo on January 06, 2008, 07:11:37 PM
I'm going to say tonight comes down to Ron & Cris vs. Nick & Don with dad and daughter winning giving way to the quote next week when T/R & JN find out at the airport when they all meet up who is the third team and then the "we really not happy to see you guys" quote.

Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 06, 2008, 11:32:31 PM
 :angel:  FWIW, Taxi Driving Roadblock.    Post Office was right next to Hilton Plaza.   :lol:

Osaka Central Post Office (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Osaka_Central_Post_Office.jpg) building

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 12:29:41 AM
 :lol: The infamous crosswalk at the JR station   :angel:

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 12:36:30 AM
Did anyone guess the Shimajima building for the robots?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 12:38:15 AM
Did anyone guess the Shimajima building for the robots?

 :angel:  still lookin' puddin.  I think they went south from the temple.   :duno:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 12:39:59 AM
Well I hope Taipei looks as good as Osaka on GE, think I'll go for a spin  :keeta:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 12:45:09 AM
Well I hope Taipei looks as good as Osaka on GE, think I'll go for a spin  :keeta:

 :lol:  yea, that red door should stand right out....  :lol3:  good luck.  :waves:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 07, 2008, 12:58:58 AM
The flower shop (http://www.flower-saera.com/) was easy enough to find, but I can't read the map; both it and the robots were along the north-south Midosuji drag (along with the temple), but exactly where will take some time. No Cui-daore!  :knuckles:
(The pitstop ferris wheel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempozan_Harbor_Village_Ferris_wheel))

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Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 01:07:20 AM
I was liike how could you be a taxi driver in Osaka and not know where the Tempozan HUGE ferris wheel is located :lol:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 09:19:33 AM
 :lol:  Mount Tempozan (天保山), at an astounding 4.53 meters, is the lowest mountain in Japan. The mountain is located in Tempozan Park in Osaka.   An artificially made mountain and the namesake of Tempozan area, it was constructed in 1831-1832 with the mud excavated from the river bottom to make way for vessels approaching downtown Osaka.

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Post by: Boingo on January 07, 2008, 12:29:49 PM
...the robots were along the north-south Midosuji drag (along with the temple), but exactly where will take some time. No Cui-daore!  :knuckles:

I recall seeing the racers hailing a cab by a Tully's Coffee shop after the robot task.  Might help locate the building.   :angel:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: gingerman28 on January 07, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
We're speculating that Rachel & TK are far ahead Gman and Chateau has given us a time of Don on the Kishiwada Castle steps but other than that I don't know what else we can look for? I'm still hunting for that darn golden taiko thinking it must mean something, it must lead us somewhere  :pull

At last, I'm back on line.  Power went out at the house late Saturday night and now just has been restored. Missed the show, but had son videotape it and saw it this morning at his place.

We should have listened more closely to the sweet, weak japanese voice on the network promo.  In retrospect you can clearly hear her say: "Good luck, Rachel, you'll need it."   So where did the idea of TK and Rachel being way ahead of everyone else, when in effect they ended up three hours later at the pit stop?

Do they have enough to make up time; sure they do the teams will all be bunched at the airport trying to get to Taiwan.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 07, 2008, 01:20:30 PM
It was CBS BS Hype Gman...... and welcome back  :-*
We're speculating that Rachel & TK are far ahead Gman and Chateau has given us a time of Don on the Kishiwada Castle steps but other than that I don't know what else we can look for? I'm still hunting for that darn golden taiko thinking it must mean something, it must lead us somewhere  :pull

At last, I'm back on line.  Power went out at the house late Saturday night and now just has been restored. Missed the show, but had son videotape it and saw it this morning at his place.

We should have listened more closely to the sweet, weak japanese voice on the network promo.  In retrospect you can clearly hear her say: "Good luck, Rachel, you'll need it."   So where did the idea of TK and Rachel being way ahead of everyone else, when in effect they ended up three hours later at the pit stop?

Do they have enough to make up time; sure they do the teams will all be bunched at the airport trying to get to Taiwan.

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Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 07, 2008, 01:37:06 PM
We're speculating that Rachel & TK are far ahead Gman and Chateau has given us a time of Don on the Kishiwada Castle steps but other than that I don't know what else we can look for? I'm still hunting for that darn golden taiko thinking it must mean something, it must lead us somewhere  :pull

 So where did the idea of TK and Rachel being way ahead of everyone else, when in effect they ended up three hours later at the pit stop?

Do they have enough to make up time; sure they do the teams will all be bunched at the airport trying to get to Taiwan.

GMAN, let me address your issues. first, Tk and Rachel left the pistop in first place, they got to a travel agent first, and they got on a plane out of Mumbai first. The hints about that from the prior week is what caused several, including definitely me, to cite them for likely to reach Osaka first. However, that such a crummy travel agent that they had a 7 hour wait in Delhi and the route they chose(Mumbai to Delhi to Peking to Osaka) was a big loser. That's how they arrived bout 3 hours behind other teams. During the performance of tasks I wouldn't expect them, with no Japanese language skills, to make up any time and they didn't according to Phil stating they are 3 hours behind at the pitstop.

Sure they don't have any opportunity to make up any time with bunching. If a strict 12 hour pitstop is observed, then they will have NO opportunity to make up even a minute except maybe on one team that doesn't get on the early nonstop flights(that leave late morning) from Osaka to Taipei. When TK and Rachel arrive in Taipei, they will still be at least 3 hours behind and then have to do a Speed bump somewhere. If they are lucky it's right away. Then they will have it out of the way when they arrive at the Taipei101 building and find that an intersection will save their butts. They probably have to team up with Christina and Ronald, who will then have  been waiting for them for well over 3.5 hours.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 01:47:53 PM
I thought we have a new picture of TK/Rachel in Taiwan immigration with other teams? Or am I hallucinating from lack of sleep?

Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 07, 2008, 02:30:12 PM
Peach, I saw a picture of TK and Rachel in customs. Why does that imply that the other teams were there at the same time?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2008, 02:54:51 PM
You are right-- it doesn't imply that at all.  I misread something.  :groan:  Sorry...

Hallucinating is right....
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Slowhatch on January 08, 2008, 01:42:40 AM
The placemarks (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103394380762462816691.000442d899590275e270d&ll=34.572168,135.230713&spn=0.7825,1.826477&t=h&z=10&om=1) are finished; the Detour spots were the hardest, but they should be accurate to within a block.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2008, 02:28:13 AM
Wow Slowhatch! You know you are spoiling us right? Now we'll be expecting this gorgeous map every time!

Wonderful job!  :yourock:

I am so stealing this for MAPS!......
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2008, 10:34:10 AM
Fantastic Slowhatch!! :yourock:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 09, 2008, 12:36:47 AM
Your Episode 9 Recap is here (http://fangsbites.blogspot.com/2008/01/amazing-race-12-ep-9-i-just-hope-he.html). :puter: :puter:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 09, 2008, 10:04:14 AM
I want to comment on the design of the Osaka Detour, specifically Smell(in the flower shop, the selection of a real flower). This task should never have been in the design once Rachel was chosen as a contestant. As a florist she had a huge unfair advantage, as evidenced by the fact that it took her 3 mintues onsite to complete this task. Given the situation, that just helped to minimize her team's deficit. however, if they had been competitive at that point, it would have been grossly unfair. It makes you wonder if a change might have been made to Osaka detours once the flight issues of TK&Rachel were known to the producers so that a chance was provided for Tk&Rachel to do some catchup. I have minimal confidence in the statements that the race design is fixed before it starts and never altered since we know what happened in Kuala Lumpur to Uchenna and Joyce. How many others tiimes has something like that occured but no outsiders ever knew?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 09, 2008, 10:37:34 AM
I love it when there are tasks in the race that one or more racers happens to be particularly adapt at.  You should be able to draw upon your skills. 

I was not aware of anything unusual for Uchenna & Joyce at Kuala Lumpur. 

What do you mean?
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Zack. on January 09, 2008, 10:51:25 AM
I want to comment on the design of the Osaka Detour, specifically Smell(in the flower shop, the selection of a real flower). This task should never have been in the design once Rachel was chosen as a contestant. As a florist she had a huge unfair advantage, as evidenced by the fact that it took her 3 mintues onsite to complete this task. Given the situation, that just helped to minimize her team's deficit. however, if they had been competitive at that point, it would have been grossly unfair. It makes you wonder if a change might have been made to Osaka detours once the flight issues of TK&Rachel were known to the producers so that a chance was provided for Tk&Rachel to do some catchup. I have minimal confidence in the statements that the race design is fixed before it starts and never altered since we know what happened in Kuala Lumpur to Uchenna and Joyce. How many others tiimes has something like that occured but no outsiders ever knew?

Given how tight the schedule was, I don't think they (WRP) would have enough time to change the Detour, get the necessary permits and permissions to film in that location (though I'm not well versed in the filming requirements of Osaka so that might not be an issue), and to reprint the Detour clue from what it originally was (if it was indeed on the fly) before the lead teams encountered the Detour. Not to mention there have been quite a few tasks that racers have been good at: Marianna with the pole vaulting, Vyxsin with macrame, Donald with just about everything.  :lol:

A much easier way of fixing the Detour would've just been to put the real flower close to the entrance for TK/Rachel, ensuring that they get out quickly.

I'm interested in the timing aspect of the leg - the lead teams arrived in Osaka at 2:30 and finished just before (Ron/Chris) to a ways after sunset (Nic/Don) - given the traffic that they would encounter in the RB, that's understandable. What's interesting is that TK/Rachel arrived at around 6 and even given the presumably reduced traffic and quick Detour choice, it's safe to say they landed on the mat at around 11. I'm at a loss as to how they could lose so much time this leg.

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Quote from: Chateau
I love it when there are tasks in the race that one or more racers happens to be particularly adapt at.  You should be able to draw upon your skills.

I was not aware of anything unusual for Uchenna & Joyce at Kuala Lumpur.

What do you mean?

According to one of their post-show interviews, Uchenna and Joyce ran the full leg in Kuala Lumpur; they did the cookie Detour and Joyce did the RB, which would indicate that they were still going to be in it and needed to get a true pit stop time arrival. Were it supposed to be an elimination leg, they would just get the pit stop clue at the soonest route marker (as it was shown on the show like prior instances of this ie Gutsy Grannies, Peter/Sarah) so they wouldn't waste time and money performing and filming the tasks. Moreover, this was followed by two NELs, which, given the marked for elimination penalty, made the first non-elimination leg (Hong Kong) basically useless in the grand scheme of things). I think that based on U/J's interview and the subsequent leg structure, that Kuala Lumpur was originally going to be an NEL and that Hong Kong would be elimination, but that since U/J were so behind, the expense would be too much to warrant keeping them there an extra leg and they were given the boot.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 09, 2008, 10:55:53 AM
I'm at a loss that they finished it that day at all!  :lol3:

I was expecting them to be driving around in the taxi  for multiple tanks of gas.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: patlini on January 09, 2008, 12:42:33 PM
Zackattack - In agreement with you
I met U/J at a function here in Houston the week all stars finished and Uchenna was quite adamant that KL was meant to be a NEL.  I think that makes sense as the next two legs were NEL's which made no sense to me at all.

Also in TAR6 didn't Hayden/Rebecca state that the producers kept closing the number of keys that they needed to select in the Key task in China.

So I think placing the real flower near the door would make sense.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 09, 2008, 02:54:44 PM
CHATEAU, I agree with Zachattack308 and with patlini. It is not for certain, but about 90% that World Race Productions could not live with the damage to future legs from having Phil needing to stay around for Uchenna and Joyce to complete their legs about a half day behind the other teams. So a decision was made on the fly to change the Kuala Lumpur leg to elimination from the original NEL so it wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: mswood on January 09, 2008, 03:42:22 PM
Well it depends.  Uusally Phil will eventually head out to the task someone is stuck at, our if teams hit a hours of operation (that absolutely puts them significantly behind) then are directed to the Pit Stop.

But in some cases its been hours and hours after they were already eliminated before either happens.

As to Joyce & Uchena, I do have to wonder what time they might have check in.  They should have been running about 10 hours after the otehr teams, and thats if they had the same level of difficulty in completing tasks.  But they even admit (Joyce & Uchenna in clips) that it takes so much longer to do anything at night.  Add to that the last task of going to people's homes to ask for their extra papers would have been exceptional difficult since they most likely would have been their around 9-11 pm at night.

And really it wouldn't have made much differnce as the race progressed to teh next leg.  With the same Pit Stop they wouldn't have been even released to get the flights that Charla & Mirna, Dustin & Kandice or Owald & Danny took.  If the screen was accurate (instead of what apskip dug up) for Eric & Danielle it is not possible for that fligth as well.

The only real difference is that on that next leg.  instead of Eric & Danielle being last and suffering the "Non elimination" penalty.  They would have been next to last and Joyce & Uchenna would have been elimianted.

Eric & Danielle would still be yielded in the next leg (since they would be th elast team progressing.  The only real change would have been them officially checking in at #2, since they wouldn't have had to deal with the 30 minute penality.

Thats if the prodcuers did in fact change things up, due to the huge time difference.

So no big effect.  No extra winning or losing a leg (for that prize).  Just would have increased their confidence a little (which hey they won, so no harm no foul), and for those who keep records of Pit Stop placement.  Thats it.  Instead of being the highest averaged team that won.  They would end up tying teams like Chris & Alex, Chip & Kim, and Freddy & Kendra.

Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 09, 2008, 08:42:08 PM
Has anyone found this episode online yet? If so, could they please PM me the link. :please:

It's taking longer and longer each week to find them :(
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2008, 09:31:08 PM
PM coming Mrs Shrek! :waves:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 09, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
PM coming Mrs Shrek! :waves:

Thank you very much!

Goes away to a nice quiet corner to get TAR fix for the week
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 10, 2008, 12:50:56 AM
Apskip:
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It is not for certain, but about 90% that World Race Productions could not live with the damage to future legs from having Phil needing to stay around for Uchenna and Joyce to complete their legs about a half day behind the other teams. So a decision was made on the fly to change the Kuala Lumpur leg to elimination from the original NEL so it wouldn't be a problem.

Here is one thing that is for certain:  The FCC

Any game show producer who rigs the game to to favor certain contestants will be fined/sanctioned.  I think that WRP would not risk having provable testimony come forward that Uchenna & Joyce were greeted with elimination when the NEL schedule of record (set up in advance) showed there was supposed to be an NEL.

You mention that WRP "could not live with the damage to future legs from having Phil needing to stay around for Uchenna and Joyce to complete their legs about a half day behind the other teams".  Well, there could be no damage from that due to the timeline that shows there was a 36 hour Pit Stop between Kuala Lumper and Hong Kong.

So I stand by my belief that nothing unusual happened at Uchenna & Joyce's elimination.  Editing left out their completion of all the tasks and presented viewers with the illusion that they got a mercy clue.  Phil was physically present at the mat when they arrived.  Go frame by frame to see for yourself.

Two NELs together?  So what?  I would rather have back to back NELs than get fined by the FCC!   :waves:
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: apskip on January 10, 2008, 06:58:40 AM
CHATEAU, I beg to differ with you. You are not understanding the "damage" issue. It has nothing to do with Kuala LumpUr. It had to do with producer perceptions of what would happen in Hong Kong, Macau, and Guam. Given the timing of events there, there was no catchup possible for Uchenna and Joyce and they would always be close to 12 hours behind. The producers did not want that for Phil AND for the production crew. It was so much easier to alter the race slightly. Who says that is illegal? Van Munster and Doganieri decide what is legal and what is not; they invented the Amazing Race. All it is is one more instance of lying, which we know to be fairly common. We know that alteration of that race to move the pitstop back from Arusha Tanzaia to Zanaibar was necessary, so obviously alterations of the race are OK.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: Chateau d If on January 10, 2008, 10:52:11 AM
I understand that alterations of the race are needed as they go (Zanzibar Pit Stop move affected all contestants the same way).  But the big deal of what is a legal alteration and what is an illegal one is determined by asking if any particular contestant is unfairly affected by the alteration.  I would say that stepping onto the mat and being eliminated versus NEL'ed is a strong effect on a contestant's standing in the race.  If you are correct that the NEL was changed from Kuala Lumpur to Hong Kong then I would say that it was unfairly applied on the grounds that the original predetermined list of NEL legs was changed.  And that it was changed based on which team was going to get it. 

I think the problem of the 12 hour difference in Uchenna & Joyce's position and the other teams could be more fairly treated by the activation Hours of Operation stop points. 

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Van Munster and Doganieri decide what is legal and what is not; they invented the Amazing Race.

My understanding is that the role of the FCC's authority on Game Shows is to prevent exactly what you just said.  If that is your belief (the powers of van Munster and Doganieri) then I can understand how you would conclude that production would change the NEL/elimination status of a leg.

Here is an example of what happened in Survivor (http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article1159.art&page=1) when the issue of rigging came up.
Title: Re: EP 9: "I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On Us"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 10, 2008, 11:00:24 AM
Not that anyone remembers, but the rigging of game shows goes back to the 1950's when NBC rigged "Twenty One" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Van_Doren) and that's when Congress got involved. The FCC does have oversight in claims of rigging and all producers have to be very careful. They just cannot make up rules willy-nilly and say that's that. They all must adhere to strict rules put in place by all of the networks.