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Title: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 10, 2007, 03:36:58 PM
Macau (12/13-12/14? )

Here's a 14 Dec (http://talkback.stomp.com.sg/forums/showthread.php?t=9085) sighting, but I'm not sure how reliable it is.
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I recognised one of the pairs (Danny or Oswald I think) from Season 2 but he was partnering with another guy.
  ???
fashionblue: I happened to be in Macau going back to Hong Kong on 14 Dec and I saw the Amazing Race teams there. It was obvious because the camera men were rushing to film the teams buying the ferry tickets. I recognised one of the pairs (Danny or Oswald I think) from Season 2 but he was partnering with another guy. And when I boarded the ferry, Phil was seated behind me. I casually joked, "oh so the AR teams are here huh?". He just smiled. When I asked if I could take a pic with him, he said "I'll be in deep trouble if I do that!".

SLOWHATCH, your MACAU to HONG KONG ferry information is a keeper. Note the perfect fit with my posting #1702 ULTIMATE TIMELINE:

11. Hong Kong 12/13 to Macau
A hydrofoil taking just over one hour will get teams from Hong Kong to Macau.

Pitstop late on 12/13

12. Macau 12/14 to Hong Kong to Guam
Teams should take the hydrofoil back to Hong Kong since the International Airport has superior flights to everywhere.
Flight options start at 1010 with JAL730 to NRT 1010 to 1500, then CO007 NRT to GUM 1715 to 1950 and end with the most direct routing of CEBU AIR 119 to MNL 1940 to 2140, then CO934 MNL to GUM 2310 to 0440. There are about 10 other combinations in between.


A resume of lady living in Macau
http://www.job853.com/corporation/ResumeInfo.aspx?bid=5705 (http://www.job853.com/corporation/ResumeInfo.aspx?bid=5705)



introflash:
11. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_11.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/11.jpg) schwarzmoor:  it is Lou Lim Ieoc Garden from Macau, next to Hong Kong
22. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_22.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/22.jpg) Neobie: Sure looks like Hong Kong to me!

Clues:
* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.

* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.

* Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: apskip on April 10, 2007, 05:39:02 PM
I am going to make my one and only contribution to this leg. The Hydrofoil schedule between Hong Kong and Macau both ways is from 0700 to 2300 every 15 minutes, with less tha once per hour in the 8 hour period in between. the fare is HK$138 over and HK$142 back. It takes less than one hour.

I am leaving for an airport hotel very soon and on a series of planes in 11 hours. I will be in the air or connecting for 29.5 hours and end up in Queensland for 11 days, returning 4/23. It looks like I could not have picked a better time to be away if I had planned it this way. See you in 13 days.

Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 10, 2007, 06:16:19 PM
have fun..
 :lol3:
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: Slowhatch on April 10, 2007, 07:04:04 PM
And stay out of the water (http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s1882386.htm).  :diver:  :noway:
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 10, 2007, 07:09:27 PM
Have a fabulous trip and don't forget your TAR detecting on Guam!




We'll try this again...

This is my take on what we know/don't know so far about this week.
Frank speculation is in red. Blue is where I hope puddin will attach a pretty pic. :lol:

Preview 1 and 2 here .
(http://images.gofish.com/cache/membervideo/73/03/6b/54/1100495-113x85.jpg?key=http%3A%2F%2Fupload1%2Fmedia%2F11%2F30%2F_113081%2F26-113081_30-1100495_newtarep10_avi.jpg&category=membervideo) (http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1100495) (http://images.gofish.com/cache/membervideo/fa/59/c6/39/1100407-113x85.jpg?key=http%3A%2F%2Fupload1%2Fmedia%2F11%2F30%2F_113081%2F26-113081_30-1100407_ep11promo_avi.jpg&category=membervideo) (http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1100407)

The big debate seems to whether this is a TBC or a not TBC...
And I'm happy to report that we all seem in perfect agreement that it is either a TBC or....a NEL.....or an Elim....or a BVM surprise! :happy:

If the BQ confessional  is from a future episode as seems likely, then that removes my only objection to this being a TBC.
And if the Cha's confessional is in Guam as seems likely, then there are no confessionals for this episode which makes a TBC even more possible.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00164-17-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_chasconf.jpg)

Teams depart the Hong Kong Jockey Club on Dec 13th after a 12 hour pitstop, leaving possibly between about 3-7 AM?? (see mswood's Timeline here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11984.msg184368.html#msg184368))

They are directed to go to Macau (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11464.msg183316.html#msg183316), a former Portuguese territory.

They go to the Hong-Kong to Macau TurboJet (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/index.htm) ferry terminal  at Sheung wan. (Boingo's nice GE map (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184517.html#msg184517) here?)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00304-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00454-17-2007.jpg)
Ferries depart at 0130, 0200, 0400, 0445, 0600, 0700, 0730, 0800 and then every 15 minutes until 1800, and take approximately 55 minutes. It costs HK$138 (=$17.68) after 0700 and HK$172 (=$22) before 0700 (Hmmm....maybe this is where O/D lose their lead?).

(We know what the two Detours and the Roadblock are, we know they rent a kiddie car, we know they go to Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens. We don't know which order things occur in for sure ie Roadblock or Detour first, and we don't know that the Garden is for sure the site of the Pitstop/TBC Mat stop--so take the rest with a little salt.)

The teams find their cluebox at the Ferry Terminal in Macau and choose between two Detours, each with their own pros and cons. (Don't you miss that?*sigh*)


At some point, teams collect their own kiddie bumper car  and drive themselves to their tasks. I think that is now and may provide a little H of Op. Ch/M take the bumper car part a little too literally, which may explain how they fall behind.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00354-17-2007.jpg)
Row it or Roll it? (titles mine)

O/D choose Row it and fetch and carry a ceremonial drum   along the waterfront near Neobie's Macao-Taipei Bridge (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184501.html#msg184501) to a Macau Dragon Boat (http://www.c-c-c.org/chineseculture/festival/dragonboat/dragon.html) where they row to I don't know where.
This task in hindsight proves to lead to a costly time delay.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00424-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00474-17-2007.jpg)

The other teams all choose Roll it and proceed to Hakushu8's bamboo pole Noodle workshop (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184578.html#msg184578), where they roll out  handmade noodles. And we won't even go there about riding that pole (http://chaxiubao.typepad.com/chaxiubao/2006/12/bamboo_pasta.html)!
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00334-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00564-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00124-17-2007.jpg)
Timeshots  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184574.html#msg184574) during this task put Eric there about 5:30 and Ch/M there about 7:05 (AM presumed). (conflicting time info--will need to be determined)


Teams eventually drive themselves  to the Roadblock, which occurs at Slowhatch's
 Macau Tower  (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0021.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0025.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0007.jpg)
(Order of arrival, conversations, deals etc. are educated speculation--you have been warned! :lol:)

The Roadblock, which one member of each team performs, is the Skywalk and the SkyJump and who knows maybe they throw in the Bungy and the Mast Climb too! (I'm so glad to finally see an AllStar worthy task that I would keep them up there all day!)

We see Charla performing this task for her team.

Now, it appears that E/D and the BQ's arrive at the tower  (BQ's first?) close to each other, where they find a Yield. Since E/D need to arrive at the Mat first, I believe that the BQ's negotiate with E/D to NOT Yield them, but rather a team further behind (O/D) in exchange for allowing E/D to reach the mat in first place. Is this why we see Dustin praying? They would be relying on E/D's honor to not yield them after all.

(And while this may be a wise move by the BQ's at this moment, I think you can say that this moment is also where they lose the race to E/D.  :o)
Now WHY O WHY do they choose O/D instead of Ch/M??   :'( You must decide....
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0033.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0029.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00144-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0034.jpg)
 (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0030.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0031.jpg)


Ch/M being a later arrival to the tower (too much time gambling in the Casinos :lol:), make a generous offer of some of their homemade noodles to O/D (really maybe $$)...

All teams then drive themselves in the bumper cars to schwartzmoor's Lou Lim Ieoc Garden (http://www3.icm.gov.mo/gate/gb/www.macauheritage.net/tour/ChPointE.asp?N=15&R=A) where Dee takes a nosedive. This is the Pit-Matstop for the race.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00064-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00094-17-2007.jpg)

Order of arrival:

E/D who escape the marked for elimination penalty.
BQ's second
Ch/M third
O/D sadly last and are either marked for elim, elim, or surprised by BVM depending on your POV.

All teams may be TBC'd and keep on racing to Guam.......or not?
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 10, 2007, 10:58:36 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/snakesonaplane.gif) Have a safe trip apskips  :waves:
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 11, 2007, 12:39:50 AM
Random Macau slideshow

Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 11, 2007, 01:05:32 AM
Apskip have a great time.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: hakushu8 on April 11, 2007, 02:47:26 PM
Have a fabulous trip and don't forget your TAR detecting on Guam!

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Have a safe trip, apskip. :waves:

Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 11, 2007, 09:33:33 PM
Okay just to throw this out.  Is it at all possble that the Macau leg and the Guam leg are not two individual legs, but one?

After Poland, I am not leaving any possability unturned.

Is it at all possible that Hong Kong Non elimination leg (episode 10)
then a leg where Macau and Guam are used being an elimination point and the beloved Oswald & DAnny getting the boot (episode 11).

Then a leg in Hawaii that is the first part of a TBC leg (episode 12)
leading to the finale episode in California (episode 13).

I haven't really looked at the amount of time needed for those episodes (especially from them (being the three finale teams leaving Guam, as apposed to the eliminated teams leaving), but we do no something happens in hawaii, could it be enough for the first half of a double leg, withthe end being the race to teh finish.

After all most of the seasons do have some form of non elimination leg before the last leg (only season's 5,6, and 10 didn't).

It would also give the producers a way of having a non elimination leg (in pratise) without having to worry about the rundant 30 minute penalty.  After all onthat leg its first or who gives a crap.

Posting this idea after apskip left, to avoid his fits of laughter.

Any thoughts, Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 12, 2007, 12:58:44 AM
After we were bass-ackwards in Poland--I think anything is possible!

I'm still wondering what those interview comments from BVM meant!
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 12, 2007, 02:00:14 AM
I know, I mean it even could be that one leg is shown over two episodes without any TBC point to it.

I actually kind of like my idea as well.

Because I dislike the idea of a possability of a TBC and then a non elimination.  While they have done three legs in a row before, they alwasy seem a little akward to me.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: tarflyonthewall on April 12, 2007, 02:56:01 AM
Here's what I think. We still have confirmed visits to Hong Kong, Macau, Guam, Hawaii, and San Francisco this season (Too much damn island hopping). There is ONE elimination left (Per Phil in the premiere). So that leaves us with one elim, two NEL's/TBC's, and the finish leg.

I'm thinking that Hong Kong and Macau are ONE combined leg, a la Punta Arenas and Ushuaia, or Santiago and Calama, earlier this season. And it's a NEL.
Then we have an elimination in Guam. Down to three teams.
A TBC in Hawaii - A NEL wouldn't work because of the penalty.
And the final hour in California.

Plus, this is the ninth leg right now in Malaysia (4 in Sth America, 2 in Africa, 2 in Europe, and one in Asia), which means we only have four legs left - so there is a two-locale leg coming up at some point.

Admit it, it's a better situation than anything else that's been come up with.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: hakushu8 on April 12, 2007, 05:52:56 AM
Just thought I'd repost here my two cents from the Ep9 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11828.0.html) thread:

Quote
Don't forget about TAR 8 and how they had a NEL, a TBC and an elimination three (well, four because of that off week) weeks in a row. I think that's the most probable scenario [which did occur] if Uchenna/Joyce are indeed philiminated this Sunday. I wouldn't want to go through a TBC next week only to find out that no one gets eliminated after that.

I think it would make sense if the Macau leg is the TBC. If Danny/Oswald were the last to see Phil in the TBC pit stop, then it would make sense for them to be seen with Phil in a hydrofoil back to Hong Kong and then to Guam. If it would have been a NEL pit stop, after the last team check in, couldn't Phil and his crew ride any hydrofoil between the 12 hour resting period and go to Guam?

So I'm on the side of NEL in Hong Kong and TBC in Macau-Guam.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: annielhy on April 12, 2007, 07:33:07 AM
Hi. Keep in mind, there are TurboJet from Macau to HK Airport.
If they are smart, they shouldn't return to Sheung Wan or Tsim Sha Tsui Pier
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: hakushu8 on April 12, 2007, 05:41:46 PM
Hi. Keep in mind, there are TurboJet from Macau to HK Airport.
If they are smart, they shouldn't return to Sheung Wan or Tsim Sha Tsui Pier

The informer only said that he/she spotted the teams buying ferry tickets then jumping on the hydrofoils, but then he/she didn't specify on which ferry terminal the ferries would go to. If the teams had an extra task in Hong Kong after the Macau leg (which seems unlikely), they could have gone to those other ferry terminals. But yeah, you might be right in that they go straight to the ferry terminal close to the international airport.
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: red_sox on April 12, 2007, 09:03:27 PM
I also think HK is the N/E and that Macau/Guam are the TBC.. it would make more sense and work out better that way in my opinion... completeing a duble leg and it being a non elim would piss the racers and viewers off..
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: ChaoSPBunny on April 14, 2007, 05:53:59 PM
Since Macau is the Las Vegas of Asia, do you think the teams will go into a casino? ;D
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 08:02:48 PM
Slowhatch, TAR7 Debbies task that you called in maps maps !

brb I'll try to make that video
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 08:03:58 PM
 Here  (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp) is the Skywalk X task (first posted by Slowhatch in Maps!) as seen in the preview... Go to the link for interactive fun.

 
  Imagine you're standing on the tower, 233 metres up. Now take a stroll around the outer-rim that encircles the tower. Piece of cake, right? Oh, did we tell you that the walkway is just 1.8 metres wide and, get this, THERE'S NO HANDRAIL!

Welcome to Skywalk X! Created by AJ Hackett -- a name synonymous with bungy jumping -- Skywalk X is a new adventure that takes the hair-raising fun of Skywalk to its limit!

In June 1987, AJ Hackett bungy-jumped from the Eiffel Tower and into the international spotlight. Today the inventor of the commercial bungy operates 10 sites around the world, including the site at the Macau Tower, and all with a flawless safety record.

Just like the bungy, Skywalk X LOOKS far scarier than it really is. The world's first overhead safety system - designed by a team of Adventure Professionals at AJ Hackett - stands in place of the missing handrails, but leaves all of the scariness intact. Ready for a walk on the wild side? Come and test your nerves at Skywalk X today! Get High in Macau!

 


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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:06:33 PM
I suspect that D/O get yielded, because (i may be wrong..i need to watch the preview again) but I think phil said something about teams reach a shocking decision on who to yield..or something like that...
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 08:15:17 PM
Could very well be.

And finally something with some height to it.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: bluecatz on April 15, 2007, 08:15:39 PM
I think it will be revenge on the BQS...
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
I think it will be revenge on the BQS...

That would hoenstly be my guess...but Phil makes it sound like the team that gets yielded isn't expected to be yielded...and everyone would expect D/K to be yielded.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
One other thing to consider.

Is this leg a TBC leg?

Every TBC leg has had a significant equilizer usually at least 12 hours (sometimes longer), so if it is the Yield isn't an issue.

Teams gets yielded freaks out, gets to the fake Mat or the Clue which tells tehm to keep racing, gets tot eh next equilizer and is cool that wasn't so bad.

Or we have no TBC this year (which might fit in to the talk Munster did).

And we have another standard Non Elimination leg.  Which I am all for I hate TBC legs, since no one treats them like real legs (and they should).
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 08:22:42 PM
Skywalk pics:

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 08:23:34 PM
Hell, I think I would rather skydie then that.  Spelling error was on purpose.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 08:25:30 PM
TBC Macau to Guam could be interesting with transportation and all...

Me too! skydie--heee...

It could have been worse--look at that site and see what all they do at the TOP of the mast!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:28:44 PM
"Two teams strike a surprising deal to target another team with the yield!"

D/K getting yielded wouldn't be surprising. D/O would...but C/M would be even MORE surprising! They have been showing her talking a lot about "yield karma"
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: makz3d on April 15, 2007, 08:31:06 PM
I suspect that D/O get yielded, because (i may be wrong..i need to watch the preview again) but I think phil said something about teams reach a shocking decision on who to yield..or something like that...

My first thought was M/C are yielded since the preview showed them right after and there's no way of telling if the reaction from BQ's is at finding out there is one or finding out they were yielded.  I watched again and thought the same things that it's not the BQs.  Also, it didn't seem as though E/D & O/D were standing together to make the decision.  Also, it appears there is a bunching.  Without a bunching BQs would be first to Yield box (they should).

Since it may not be BQs then D/O may be right.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Tyler on April 15, 2007, 08:32:57 PM
It said a surprising deal.

Meaning two teams work together and we will be surprised.

Eric/Danielle and Dustin/Kandice.

Neither likes Charla/Mirna so maybe that makes a difference. Hell, you can take 2 FFs maybe you can YIELD twice also. lol
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: gingerman28 on April 15, 2007, 08:45:53 PM
I posted this for EP10, but will repeat it here:

Bummer for bad information.

Re-checked ep 8.  Phil introduced Fast Forward but does not mention how many are in the race, nor that a team can only use a FF once!  Danny and Oswald teamed with Uchenna and Joyce used the FF in Krakow.

UNLESS, AT THE START OF THE NEXT LEG PHIL SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT YOU, DANNY AND OSWALD USED THE FAST FORWARD IN HONG KONG.  BUT SINCE A TEAM IS ONLY ALLOWED TO USE IT ONCE YOU MUST GO TO BACK OF THE PACK AND YOU ARE NOW MARKED FOR ELIMINTION NOT ERIC AND DANIELLE.

If my memory is correct something like this has happened in an earlier TAR where the next ep started off with a sit down talk by Phil and two teams on some rule infraction which affected the outcome of that leg.  Will go back and check my files tomorrow.

It's possible, but we will have to wait until next week.

Also it looks like Charla is doing the ROADBLOCK again!  But nothing too physical.  We haven't had much physical activity in this TAR.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 08:47:29 PM
Phil: Next week on The Amazing Race
Mirna: Come ON Charla!!
Phil: Charla has a thrill 660 feet high above the earth
Dustin: caution..Yield ahead
Kandice: OHHH
Oswald mouths : Yup
Phil: and 2 teams strike a surprising deal to target another team with a Yield


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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: BballKates on April 15, 2007, 08:50:01 PM
I feel like Charla and Mirna might get yielded.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Chateau d If on April 15, 2007, 08:51:20 PM
Looks like Charla's hand to me.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:51:29 PM
Girly hand:
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D/K waiting at yield?
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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: BballKates on April 15, 2007, 08:52:51 PM
Looks like Danielle's hand, but who knows. If Phil says its a shocking yield I feel like D/K would be to obvious.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
If you look at Kandice's hand her nails look similar to the hand in the photo...but then a lot of girls have long nails.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: BballKates on April 15, 2007, 08:57:58 PM
If you look at Kandice's hand her nails look similar to the hand in the photo...but then a lot of girls have long nails.

I was thinking that at first as well but they already used a yield.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 08:59:09 PM
If you look at Kandice's hand her nails look similar to the hand in the photo...but then a lot of girls have long nails.

I was thinking that at first as well but they already used a yield.

If they were turning OVER the yield thing that means they are yielded.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Slowhatch on April 15, 2007, 09:02:14 PM
I didn't find anything TAR-related in the Macau Tower's press releases. But I did find the name (12 Dec press release (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/press/20061212.asp)) of the Chairman of the Macau Tower: Ms. Pansy Ho. (don't fire me  :hides)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: BballKates on April 15, 2007, 09:02:29 PM
If you look at Kandice's hand her nails look similar to the hand in the photo...but then a lot of girls have long nails.

I was thinking that at first as well but they already used a yield.

If they were turning OVER the yield thing that means they are yielded.

Gosh how stupid of me not to realize that. I guess we will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 09:04:48 PM
Is Dustin talking to somebody here?

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 09:07:07 PM
Pansy Ho! and Dirty Pirate Ho's!! :lol3:

Think exposition hands.

I think it might be D/O that get yielded....we have to figure out how they get to last place somehow...

But have we ever had a TBC AND a Yield on the same leg?? Come on historians!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
For references all shots of D/K are flipped (look at the nike sign on Dustin's shirt)
Peach, I don't think we have! Maybe they got rid of TBC legs!!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 09:10:42 PM
Michael in denial that his BQ's can be Yielded  :lol3:

from maps & more maps ..lots of good stuff down there


Panaramio & map of Macau :) (http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=22.200384&ln=113.547961&z=5&k=2&tab=2)
Tired of KL?  :lol: Debbie (http://www.johnnyjet.com/debbiec/DebbieCMacau2006.html) from TAR7 has an interesting idea: a Skyjump (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp) from the Macau tower. (I've noticed, though, that this season there doesn't seem to be a lot of the usual TAR-type activities)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 09:12:39 PM
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Michael in denial that his BQ's can be Yielded 

Hey, I'm providing things that make it look like they ARE yielded...the hand...the randomly standing there!!  :meow:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 09:13:28 PM
Nope we ahve never had a Yield on a TBC leg.  Several on Non Elimination leg's tho.  SO its possible that this next leg might just be another non elimination.

What do you folks think?
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 09:16:16 PM
The surprise would either  be who is Yielded or who does the Yielding.

If Dustin & Kandice are yielded no surprise there.  No surprise if Danielle & Eric or Charla & Mirna did it.  Would be a surprise if Oswald & Danny did it though.

No real surprsie if Charla & Mirna got yielded or by anyone.

Would it be a surprise to see Danielle & Eric get yielded again?  Yeah

Would it be a surprise if Oswald & Danny got Yielded?  Yeah, and by anyone.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 09:27:59 PM
If D/O get yielded--it would have to be by E/D or C/M since the BQ's have used their yield already.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 09:31:44 PM
Yeah, I just meant that noone ssems to have negative feelings concerning Oswald & Danny.  So that them getting yielded would be a surprise and that we wouldn't think any of the teams would do it.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: musicman85 on April 15, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
I agree, that I don't think it's D/K that get yielded. That wouldn't be a suprise at all since they're thinking that they will by E/D. A suprise is if either E/D, O/D or C/M get yielded, but I'm not sure by who. The only options are

E/D YIELD O/D
E/D YIELD C/M

C/M have clearly stated that they won't use the yield so I'm highly speculating that E/D will yield someone next week bc they already have a penalty. I'm guessint that it will be O/D who will be behind them.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 09:36:01 PM
It could also be that D/K get to the yield first so even though people WANT to yield them they can't. I just think they will be yielding...(see puddin!)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Tyler on April 15, 2007, 09:43:21 PM
We saw the girly hand flipping over the hourglass. It's not Oswald/Danny that get YIELDED.

In the phots, we saw the YIELD. And we saw Charla/Mirna in another photo. Can anyone look at them and see if they are in the same place -- because they looked the same.

Then, in another, Mirna is checking her watch. Maybe they got YIELDED and are checking to see how much time is left.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Sasuke11 on April 15, 2007, 09:44:43 PM
you know it might be E/D that do in fact get yield pwnt.  Maybe in the airports in the next ep e/d finally let schmirna have it, and then when schmirna get to the yield they yield e/boobs.  i can't see schmirna yielding anyone (unless they yield the BQs) but i think they might end up getting there first.

this sucks, if o/d arent yielded MAYBE e/d do infact get pwnt and lose in fourth, god would that be a blessing
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 09:48:27 PM
you know it might be E/D that do in fact get yield pwnt.  Maybe in the airports in the next ep e/d finally let schmirna have it, and then when schmirna get to the yield they yield e/boobs.  i can't see schmirna yielding anyone (unless they yield the BQs) but i think they might end up getting there first.

this sucks, if o/d arent yielded MAYBE e/d do infact get pwnt and lose in fourth, god would that be a blessing
Ahh the always so eloquent Sasuke11, such a way with words. Nice try but all evidence points to the Cha's on the sequester plane.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 09:49:45 PM
Hopefully the yield is at the beginning of the leg...I'm going to cry when I see them get yielded  :'( If it's D/O it serves them right going out fourth then.  :carryon: :naughty:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 09:54:58 PM
Hands may not mean anything--we have seen plenty of fake/actor/"for example" hands before.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Sasuke11 on April 15, 2007, 09:58:12 PM
i really don't think it will even matter who it is.  I'm guessing the next leg will be a TBC, could be wrong though
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: asamber1 on April 15, 2007, 10:01:46 PM
Nope we ahve never had a Yield on a TBC leg.  Several on Non Elimination leg's tho.  SO its possible that this next leg might just be another non elimination.

What do you folks think?

The Amazing Race 7: Lucknow India: Yield Not Used, it was a TBC!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
Nope we ahve never had a Yield on a TBC leg.  Several on Non Elimination leg's tho.  SO its possible that this next leg might just be another non elimination.

What do you folks think?

The Amazing Race 7: Lucknow India: Yield Not Used, it was a TBC!

Cool thanks I wasn't thinking of the ones not used manly do to season 5 having so many legs with the Yield.  I was thinking the Yield started the same season as the TBC, but they started in season 6. 
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 10:49:17 PM
I think the Yield is at the Tower Skywalk

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 11:06:17 PM
ok D/O don't look happy,, maybe just maybe could the BQ's & EDEE conspire together to yield them  (:;)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 11:07:15 PM
WEBCLUES ARE UP!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 11:07:20 PM
OMG!!

* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.

* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.

* Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny?


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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 11:07:41 PM
 :yess: :yess: :yess:

NO YIELD FOR BQS!  :happy:

the last clue intrigues me..

I can't believe E/D work with D/K!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Slowhatch on April 15, 2007, 11:08:42 PM
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I think the Yield is at the Tower Skywalk
Agreed. :tup: I can't find any photos of the ground floor (all the tourist photos are from the top), but something will turn up.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 11:10:02 PM
 :groan: the other team has to be EDEE! Cripes like they need more hate from the forums!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 11:12:01 PM
oh my god I haven't thought of that...what are all the D/O lovers going to do to our teams puddin  :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2007, 11:14:47 PM
Unless all that high minded talk from Mirna about not wanting to yield anyone because they want to run a race on their own merits was just foreshadowing to set this up??
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 11:17:40 PM
Could the deal possibly be:

Dustin: We'll let you step on the mat at the pit stop first ... IF YOU YIELD D/O!!

I think E/D and D/K will quite possibly over take R/A as the most hated team of all time.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 11:50:15 PM
Could the deal possibly be:

Dustin: We'll let you step on the mat at the pit stop first ... IF YOU YIELD D/O!!
Well if it saves my team then :sera: whatever it takes.

from Slowhatch's tour .. plaza

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 15, 2007, 11:52:16 PM
Well it wouldn't surprise me if that happens Michael or

On one of the clips tonight.

We learn taht on the 12 hour pit stop on the 10th of december, that charla & Mirna were also told by D & K that they were yielded in season 10.

But the reason fo all the  dislike, would appear to be that during that night the three teams happened to watch the current episode of Amazing Race 10.  The episode where the BQ's yield Bama.

This makes them out to be not just serious racers (after all the Yield is a tool),but liars not ot just one team but possible all of them.

This could make Oswald & Danny willing to Yield this team as being untrustworthy some thing they might feel strongly about.

It would also explain all the dirty, fake, comments at the condfessionals and during this leg.  And why Mirna seems vocally more upset then Eric or even Danielle.  And might be one reason why Oswald & Danny are willing to help Charla & Mirna over them.

It also explains all the Karma comments as all teams int hat episode use Karma to describe either the results of that leg, or why they didn't use the yield themselves.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 15, 2007, 11:54:15 PM
Stores  (http://www.pbase.com/kujira12/work_mactw)
Hello Kitty  (http://www.pbase.com/image/57503292)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 15, 2007, 11:55:05 PM
I think that the D/K just get to the yield first, pull the #1 ticket, and then since they can't be yielded by E/D ... who are right behind then ... convince them to yield D/O or something along those lines....because I honestly can't see why E/D wouldn't yield them...especially after all of their karma comments, and their "fake bitches" comments.  ???
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 16, 2007, 12:03:52 AM
The only problem with that possability is they have said that the one team they would want to win besides them is Danny & Oswald.  While they really have disliked Charla & Mirna at times.

In fact, if Eric & Danielle had stayed at the ticket desk, I think that Dustin & Kandice would ahve made some points by being vocal with the agents about getting Eric & Danielle as well on the flight.

But yes if Eric & Daniele go to the yield first, there is no reason they wouldn't Yield Dustin & Kandice.

Now of course, if BQ's do manage to convince them that since Oswald & Danny have the best record (by far) of this season (in fact numbers wise only Eric & Jeremy, Colin & Christie, Kris and Jon have better Pit Stop Placement average), I could see Eric doing it.  Since I think Eric would put Race above feelings. 
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 12:48:21 AM
That team you don't yield you shot that team.
:lol:

any ideas what the dealio is with the cars?
* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.

the sidewalks match

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 12:50:04 AM
Why the hell are there so many shots of teams just randomly standing around in this leg  ???

Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 12:54:44 AM
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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: schwarzmoor on April 16, 2007, 01:09:37 AM
I think the first route marker is at the Macau Ferry Terminal. Teams are told to Macau Tower and there is a Yield.
BQs would be first since it looks like in the morning and I think E/D are yielded

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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 01:12:07 AM
I think the first route marker is at the Macau Ferry Terminal. Teams are told to Macau Tower and there is a Yield.
BQs would be first since it looks like in the morning and I think E/D are yielded

While I agree with you in saying that D/K are first to a yield, it would be impossible for them to yield anybody since they've already yielded E/D
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 01:28:00 AM
The terminal lead might be good schwarzmoor   :tup:


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Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: down_with_alli on April 16, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
Here's some random ideas about this leg from a clueless Aussie (well...more clueless than all of you seeing as you're all great with speculating).

I think that there's going to be another NEL (seeing as the Chas make it to Guam and I'm guessing that a Yield on a TBC leg would be pretty pointless even though they've had an unused one before). Maybe the producers want to have another back to back NEL to stir things up, seeing as the last and ONLY one that happened was about 8 seasons back with FLO (LOLOL) being saved after JVJs non elimination.

As for the use of the yield, I'm going to say that D/K and E/D use it on D/O. And I don't think the hands have anything to do with any team seeing as they constantly use random hands and most of the time the team that is yielded turns the hourglass over without the cameras focusing only on their hands. Also, the Chas being yielded on this leg may play a part in why they get out in the next leg.

(However, as someone said, I also have my suspicions of C/M using the yield simply because they've been given a somewhat hypocritical (yet hilariously entertaining) edit. But I don't really think they'll actually do it because I think they actually meant it when they said they wanted to not use it ever. Who knows? They could be the ones yielded and it would be surprising seeing as the other teams don't really see them as a threat.)

Sorry about my ranting. I shall stop now.

Ideas anyone? I'd love to hear them and keep up the good word  :tup:!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 01:45:08 AM
Thank you asamber :)

Nope we ahve never had a Yield on a TBC leg.  Several on Non Elimination leg's tho.  SO its possible that this next leg might just be another non elimination.

What do you folks think?

The Amazing Race 7: Lucknow India: Yield Not Used, it was a TBC!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: down_with_alli on April 16, 2007, 01:49:38 AM
It just can't be a NEL..think about EDEES 30 minute penalty.
For the sake of argueing, lets say EDEE do not arrive in time and Phil sends then off to the side to wait out their penalty and their 30 minutes are up and now they are last...
Phil: Eric & Danielle even though you were marked with the 30 minute penalty I am happy to tell you this is another NEL however you are marked with another 30 minute penalty in the next leg blah blah blah ....."

Oh shit I suck. Totally assuming they're gunna come first in the leg lol.

Wow, then it's a TBC leg. Groce. Me dislikes them immensely.

Thanks puddin!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 01:52:12 AM
No you don't suck down_with_alli  ..I'm probably wrong as usual  :lol:

Clue:
*Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny?

I always wondered what would happen if 2 teams stepped on the mat in last place at the same time?
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: down_with_alli on April 16, 2007, 01:55:05 AM
No you don't suck down_with_alli  ..I'm probably wrong as usual  :lol:

Clue:
*Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny?

I always wondered what would happen if 2 teams stepped on the mat in last place at the same time?

Generous offer?

Mirna: HERE HAVE CHARLA!

Love them.  :hearts:

Actually ... you may be onto something with this generous offer thing.

Well C/M say they don't want to yield right? But maybe it's actually those 2 teams who strike up a deal (after the Chas overhear/know that they're being targeted) because C/M may be in front somehow to yield the Queens?

Oh I dunno.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 02:06:18 AM
No its for sure the BQ's that are not Yielded..

* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: mswood on April 16, 2007, 02:26:52 AM
Yeah this leg has to be either a TBC (with the penalty being at the Pit Stop next episode) and hte yield being pretty redundant depending on equalizers between parts 1 & 2.

Or Macau and Guam are one leg (either aired over two nights) or just a single leg, with the next two being a race to the finish line.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: red_sox on April 16, 2007, 02:32:56 AM
When i first read the Web Clue:

Charla and Mirna make a Generous offer to Oswald and Danny

I immediately thought that the two of them were in last place, and on the way to the TBC matt, thinking it was a pitt-stop, Charla and Mirna offer to stand aside for Oswald/Danny, or wait for O/D so they can step on the matt at the same time..

But remember C/M have another huge lead in Guam :D
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: down_with_alli on April 16, 2007, 02:35:04 AM
When i first read the Web Clue:

Charla and Mirna make a Generous offer to Oswald and Danny

I immediately thought that the two of them were in last place, and on the way to the TBC matt, thinking it was a pitt-stop, Charla and Mirna offer to stand aside for Oswald/Danny, or wait for O/D so they can step on the matt at the same time..

But remember C/M have another huge lead in Guam :D

Or maybe, Charla gives them her heelies? (ROLL CHAS ROLL!)  :rotf:

And Mirna gives them some polish sausage since she likes offering it so much haha.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: hakushu8 on April 16, 2007, 07:07:34 AM
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Charla and Mirna make a Generous offer to Oswald and Danny
Money offer? Last leg, Oswald/Danny have said that they they have zero dollars to their name after the toll, so this could be the offer... without anything in return... but maybe not.

Thanks asamber for that. So TBC could still happen, and I hope it does.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Neobie on April 16, 2007, 07:57:04 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/15Apr0059.jpg)

This looks like the Macau ferry terminal to me too. (Note blue and white directional signs in the right background.) Looks like that's where they get their first clue.

Give me something to work on here!
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: makz3d on April 16, 2007, 08:37:11 AM

After watching the videos earlier I have it figured out why a team is yielded, who does the yielding, but not which of 2 teams are yielded.

At the airport on last night's show E/D didn't make it on the flight.  Therefore they are marked for elimination.  E/D are blaming C/M for them not getting on the flight.  E/D may also be blaming O/D because O/D gave C/M their stand bye code that put them at the top of the list instead of 3rd where C/M should have been.

If O/D didn't give C/M the code then it would have been C/M that missed the flight.

D/K tried to help E/D so I think E/D will yield C/M or O/D.

This is all just opinion and there's as much of a chance it's correct as much as there's a chance it's totally wrong.
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: gingerman28 on April 16, 2007, 09:51:22 AM
To clear something up once and for all according to Wikipedia:

The Fast Forward allows the team that receives it to skip all remaining tasks on that leg of the race and proceed directly to the Pit Stop. To receive the Fast Forward, the team must be the first team to perform and complete the task described on the Fast Forward clue. The clue is found along with a regular clue at one of the Route Markers.

Only one team may use each Fast Forward. Any team that is beaten to the Fast Forward will have wasted their time and must go back and pick up where they left off. Also, prior to Season 10, each team was allowed to use only one Fast Forward during the whole race, requiring teams to decide when it was most advantageous to use it. With the introduction of the Intersection route marker in Season 10, a team can claim two Fast Forwards in a single race, one while part of a grouped team during an Intersection, and another as a single team.

Originally, Fast Forwards were offered in every leg of the race (provided that there was as least one team left that had not used one), except for the final two legs. Starting in Season 5, the number of Fast Forwards was reduced to two on the entire race. In the event a Fast Forward was not attempted by any team on a leg, the task involved was not shown, though clue envelopes with the green Fast Forward marker can usually be spotted by the viewers.



Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Big Papi on April 16, 2007, 10:25:46 AM
No you don't suck down_with_alli  ..I'm probably wrong as usual  :lol:


And I'm never right, so does that mean that we are even  ???  ;)
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 10:38:41 AM
No you don't suck down_with_alli  ..I'm probably wrong as usual  :lol:


And I'm never right, so does that mean that we are even  ???  ;)
YES we are DORKS Papi :crazy

 :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: Big Papi on April 16, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
No you don't suck down_with_alli  ..I'm probably wrong as usual  :lol:


And I'm never right, so does that mean that we are even  ???  ;)
YES we are DORKS Papi :crazy

 :lol:

It's in our sub nics so it has to be true  :happy: :jumpy: I was so disappointed at EDEE last night. I was hoping that they made Phil wait for them till the next morning  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: anon1akacolby on April 16, 2007, 11:12:19 AM
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Clue:
*Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny?

there is a question mark at the end of the clue which to me makes believe the statement is a little tongue in cheek.  An offer that most of us would think, "c'mon, are you serious?"  If it was a serious offer then clue would end with a period.  Unless of course the cbs dorks made a typ-o.   :lol:  I'm thinking whatever offer is made is a little on the outrageous side like "we'll stand at the Yield Mat with you b/c we feel bad for you.  OR Do you want us to kill D/E?  we can do it, we have connections!   :rotf:  OR Mirna offers to sue Eric and Danielle for Yielding Danny and Oswald....something crazy like that. 

Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 11:21:28 AM
Well this Dork needs to eat something  :lol: ..link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638) to the promo when it comes up.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
the title sounds like something the two that make the deal say!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 12:52:27 PM
Jill calls the yield "a really smart move", I think D/K pull some manipulation out of their butt and convince the yeilder to yield the yieldee!  Jill seems very fond of them.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: serendipity on April 16, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
The picture with D/K opening the clue is clearly the Macau Ferry Terminal~ so they got their first clue there, then head to the Macau Tourist Tower (is this the right name? I am not sure because this is direct translation from Chinese) And there is a yield.

Given teams' arrival at the Hong Kong Jockey Club, it is clearly that O/D and D/K are far ahead the other teams, and since ferries to Macau are frequent, I would think that they somehow board the ferry together and choose to work together and yield one team!  :happy: I personally think that will be E/D since they have the penalty and Oswald also said they are cunning in the Malaysian leg (note that the phrase is voice-over)... Here is only my thought, and I really hope it is right because I also want E/D out of the game.

Oh I have done that skywalk TWICE, one at daytime and one at night, it's pretty cool!! :yess: But the guide also makes you do some dangerous posture to get photos~~  :snicker:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 02:51:11 PM
D/O and the BQ's maybe ahead of the other teams leaving the pitstop but we don't know if the Detour or Roadblock comes first right?  and the teams might have had to get a clue or something in HK before they take the ferry? how else would they know to take it :D?
The webmonkeys took the ? out of the 3rd clue.

* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.
* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.
* Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny.
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Oh I have done that skywalk TWICE, one at daytime and one at night, it's pretty cool!!  But the guide also makes you do some dangerous posture to get photos~~   
What fun serendipity  :hearts:!!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 02:52:28 PM
I'm glad they are finally doing a task that is *somewhat* nerve racking...I just wish they did the sky dive!

serendipity, that's awesome! Was it more fun in the morning or the night?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Traegen on April 16, 2007, 03:04:40 PM
I think that all the teams hit a HOH outside the skywalk. They are all equalized before the yield, and since Charla is the only one shown doing the task I'm going with them being Yeilded (just cus. I have no real justification).
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 03:58:39 PM
Damn, I was really hoping the web promo would be out by now...hopefully it comes out today...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 16, 2007, 06:37:17 PM
I think that all the teams hit a HOH outside the skywalk. They are all equalized before the yield, and since Charla is the only one shown doing the task I'm going with them being Yeilded (just cus. I have no real justification).

They very well could be same as Season tens yield.

Or it could be that the deal is made before the leg begins at the Pit Stop.  Previews we want previews.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: GnarlyMarly on April 16, 2007, 06:55:19 PM
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Jill calls the yield "a really smart move", I think D/K pull some manipulation out of their butt and convince the yeilder to yield the yieldee!  Jill seems very fond of them.

where does jill say this?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 06:57:27 PM
Quote
Jill calls the yield "a really smart move", I think D/K pull some manipulation out of their butt and convince the yeilder to yield the yieldee!  Jill seems very fond of them.

where does jill say this?

since it was a NEL her and JV were guests on the finish line today
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 07:38:33 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 16, 2007, 07:39:40 PM
* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.

This could be BQ's, they have known to have struggled w/ cars in the past.

As for the yield, we know tht BQ's arent yielded. BUT how do we know that the hand in the preview isn't Mirna's??? BQ's could be wrkin together w/ EDEE to yield C/M. But what about the "generous offer" to O/D?? *sigh* None of this makes sense...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: asamber1 on April 16, 2007, 07:58:46 PM
* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.

This could be BQ's, they have known to have struggled w/ cars in the past.

As for the yield, we know tht BQ's arent yielded. BUT how do we know that the hand in the preview isn't Mirna's??? BQ's could be wrkin together w/ EDEE to yield C/M. But what about the "generous offer" to O/D?? *sigh* None of this makes sense...

You Mean Charla and Mirna?  The Blondes have never stuggled with cars, Kandice did a little bit[In Kuwait and at the Start of AR10], Dustin never did.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 16, 2007, 08:00:49 PM
One of the BQs (I forget which one) rear-ended a bus in Mauritius.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 09:29:21 PM
For some reason I'm not feeling a TBC ... I know it's the only reasonable choice right now, but what the hell was BVMs comment about?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: asamber1 on April 16, 2007, 10:09:23 PM
One of the BQs (I forget which one) rear-ended a bus in Mauritius.

Yea but thats not "struggleing to opperate a car" they opperated it fine, not like Charla and Mirna who between seasons 5 and 11 never learned to drive stick!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 16, 2007, 10:21:26 PM
*It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb. - Charla and Mirna
*Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny. - Also about Charla and Mirna

Hence, with the use of my crappy deduction skills, I believe that:

*One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team. - will be O/D YIELDED! Hence that's why they may get on a bad flight at the next continued leg and thus eliminated.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 16, 2007, 10:42:41 PM
ah, they've updated everything BUT the web promo...something tells me that, like Phil's preview from last week, we will not be seeing a web promo this week! :(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 16, 2007, 10:58:03 PM
Oh I think someone is being lazy  at CBS and if all else fails we have TV commercials  :happy:
Title: Re: Macau leg
Post by: apskip on April 17, 2007, 05:29:17 AM
Okay just to throw this out.  Is it at all possble that the Macau leg and the Guam leg are not two individual legs, but one?

After Poland, I am not leaving any possability unturned.

Is it at all possible that Hong Kong Non elimination leg (episode 10)
then a leg where Macau and Guam are used being an elimination point and the beloved Oswald & DAnny getting the boot (episode 11).

Then a leg in Hawaii that is the first part of a TBC leg (episode 12)
leading to the finale episode in California (episode 13).

I haven't really looked at the amount of time needed for those episodes (especially from them (being the three finale teams leaving Guam, as apposed to the eliminated teams leaving), but we do no something happens in hawaii, could it be enough for the first half of a double leg, withthe end being the race to teh finish.

After all most of the seasons do have some form of non elimination leg before the last leg (only season's 5,6, and 10 didn't).

It would also give the producers a way of having a non elimination leg (in pratise) without having to worry about the rundant 30 minute penalty.  After all onthat leg its first or who gives a crap.

Posting this idea after apskip left, to avoid his fits of laughter.

Any thoughts, Am I crazy?


No, mswood, you are not crazy and no, you do not get to avoid my comments. It is a probabilistic judgment as to whether the combined leg will be Macau/Guam or Guam/Hawaii or Hawaii/San Francisco. The probable task density favors Hawaii/San/Francisco in leg 13 as the combined leg, but it could come in leg 11 as Macau/Guam or leg 12 as Guam Hawaii. I estimate the probability of Hawaii/San Francisco as 60%, Macau/Guam as 25% and Guam/Hawaii as 15%.

apskip from an Internet cafe in Port Douglas, Down Under
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hurricane32 on April 17, 2007, 05:48:07 AM
if charla and mirna are the ones who is going to yield D/O, i am going to hate them forever! you can't see the BQs and E/D making a deal.so there is only left with...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 09:21:09 AM
WEB PROMO = UP!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Kogs on April 17, 2007, 09:27:42 AM
WEB PROMO = UP!
heres the linky again
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=91266.62860007513
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 09:30:12 AM
can someone tell me what it's saying?! the sound isn't working at my schools library!

nevermind, fixed it!

looks like a great episode! Like I expected...they bqs bribe a team not to yeild them!

It looks like there is a pitstop interview with D/K, where they are smiling and saying "we are going to race like we are in last place"...they are wearing the same clothes that they are seen wearing in the Macau leg...no TBC?

I think this week the order we get will be (based on the fact that all teams appear to be pretty close to eachother):

1. E/D (finally!)
2. D/K :jumpy:
3. C/M B:)
4. D/O :'(

I'm beginning to think the deal MIGHT not be the letting them step on the pit stop mat first, because why would Eric and Danielle doubt themselves enough to think that D/K would be able to get infront of them even AFTER getting yielded...it's strange.

BUT..we know from Erics myspace that he isn't fond of these two, so maybe they DO make a pit stop deal, but D/K don't hold up their end of the bargain..

We even get some shots of the tasks:

Detours:
The log thingy or the drum looking thingy that D/O are doing
Roadblock:
The sky walk
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 09:47:01 AM
Puddin was right about the moke.  :yess: It's C/M

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 09:49:55 AM
haha, good job puddin!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:03:59 AM
Well, I can't do any screencaps but after watching with my finger on the pause button:

The "log thingy" is bamboo (again!) and it looks to me that C/M and E/D are trying to break the bamboo at a joint. It also looks like there is some plaster there? Since bamboo is segmentally hollow, maybe they have to make a plaster cast--but have no idea why?

The drum thingy is being carried by D/O along the waterfront. There is a shot of some sort of native type boat being rowed with the drum (ceremonial?) in the front.

But wonder where our garden comes in??


Thank you thank you kogs! :waves:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 10:06:41 AM
What about the shot of Dustin praying? That could be at the pitstop...if there is one this episode. Did you see the confessional...they are wearing the exact same clothes!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 10:08:09 AM
Could it be Lou lim ioc? Not all of it is Chinese design; some western columns (see here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smtfhw/60982750/)).

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:13:30 AM
Thanks Slowhatch! Looks like a possibility to me! Poor Mirna takes a nosedive....

And you are right about the clothes Michael. Dustin says "we are going to race like we are in last place--which leads me to think they are not! :happy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 10:18:20 AM
Of course they aren't peach...I'm hoping they don't screw E/D over though, because I don't want them to be the villans  :'(

We are all just assuming that E/D and D/K work together, but it MIGHT be another combo...we'll see! I'm just glad the promo is finall out.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 10:25:46 AM
Just give me a few minutes to wake up and I'll get some screencaps :lol:

photobucket here (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/)

VO: Amazing Race Sunday..only four teams All-Star teams are left. The Beauty Queens are desperate to get into the final three.
Dustin Conf: We're going to race like were in last place.
VO: will another team except payment to help them?
Dustin: I was thinking about bribing them not to yield us.
VO: and traveling through Macau,
Danielle conf: everybody's going to be cut throat and crazy
VO: people keep wondering how the most unlikely All-Stars are still in the race..
Mirna Conf: other teams probably see me as a tyrant but I'm here to win
VO: New Amazing Race All-Stars ...


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more..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 10:26:42 AM
Just give me a few minutes to wake up and I'll get some screencaps :lol:

LMAO, ok!

Anyways, I'm off to english class! Have fun coming to the same conclusions that I have you guys  :snicker:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 10:27:24 AM
I can read "perfume centre," but I can't make out the first word. The only thing close in the yellow pages is Goodyear perfume centre (an outlet in Macau, another in Tsim sha tsui). Maybe someone can read the ideograms.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:33:01 AM
Dragon Boat Racing!

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It started out as a frantic search for an ancient Chinese poet who committed suicide by plunging into a river. About 2,300 years later, dragon boat racing is a full-fledged international sport making its debut as a medal event at the fourth East Asian Games in Macau.

A dragon boat is a narrow vessel similar to a rowing boat, but it's decorated with some Oriental flair. At the East Asian Games, the racing craft are styled with green dragon heads featuring whiskers, golden scales and brown horns, as well as a tail.

The technique is similar to canoeing -- the paddlers plunge their paddles downwards, as opposed to horizontally as in the case of rowing.

Like rowing, speed hinges on uniformity of strokes. But dragon boat racing relies mainly on upper body strength while rowing is driven by the lower body, Taiwan's men's coach Liu Te-chih explained on the sidelines of the first day of competition yesterday.

Explosiveness is key. In Macau, athletes are competing over 250m and 500m courses.

Macau competitor Jose Gonzun, a personal fitness trainer, said the paddling is highly intense. "Suddenly, your heart rate, boom!" said Gonzun, a Pampanga, Philippines native who moved to Macau.

The roots of dragon boat racing are in ancient China. When disillusioned poet Qu Yuan jumped into a river, people raced to the site in boats to search for him. They made loud sounds to scare away fish and dropped rice dumplings into the water to lure them away from Qu's body. Now the Chinese mark the anniversary of Qu's death by racing dragon boats and eating dumplings.

And there's another legacy dating back to the original event, making dragon boat racing one of the only sports with a built-in cheerleader.

Each team includes a drummer, although now the drummer's role is to keep the crew in rhythm, not startle fish.

The sport of dragon boat racing has gone global. The International Dragon Boat Federation, or IDBF, was founded in 1991 and hosts world championships on odd-numbered years and club world championships on even years.

The world championships took place in Berlin, Germany in August and will be next held in 2007 in Sydney, Australia.
link  (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/sport/archives/2005/10/30/2003278086)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 17, 2007, 10:39:05 AM
OK Puddin I came out to play!!  :waves: :wohoo:

This is my guess about the yield at this point (this depends on the Roadblock coming before the detour to work).

D/O and the BQ's will be the first 2 teams out.
The BQ's say "it's like we're bribing them not to yield us" and the voiceover says "will another team accept payment".
D/O have been shown to be having money problems.

I think when they arrive at the tower they have to pull a number to go up (or in the tower). The yield is inside. The BQ's are waiting their turn to go up while D/O are doing the roadblock and hoping that the "bribe" worked.

Of course this would all be no good if the roadblock is last.






Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Neobie on April 17, 2007, 10:39:24 AM
You got it, Slowhatch! The taxi and streets are of Hong Kong design, so Kowloon's where it is.

合成香水中心
Goodyear Perfume Centre
14B Cameron Rd, Tsim Sha Tsui

Which sets the City Chain store in the foreground as Shop D, G/F, 16 Carnarvon Road.

(http://www.d-oz.com/images/en/clients/citychain_logo.gif)

Eric/Danielle are heading east along Cameron Road, away from Tsimshatsui MTR station, but also in the opposite direction of the Macau ferry terminal (which is west of the train station). Either that's not where they're trying to go, or they're set to get lost. Ouch.

But if the ferry's not the destination, where the heck could they be headed? The science/history museum? There's nothing worthy of TAR in that area...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 10:47:19 AM
I agree with Neobie, streets are HK and peach I don't think the dragon boat racing is a part of a task ..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 10:47:58 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00174-17-2007.jpg)

isn't this from the last leg when Danielle said that HK is exactly like New York?

Also, Dustins hair is exactly the same in the confessional as it is in the Macau leg...looking more and more like no TBC... :yess: library period
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:48:56 AM
puddin --look at the shot of the boat with the drum--

here's something similar

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 10:52:24 AM
I agree; the drum (and maybe the pole/mast/etc. thingy as well) is for the dragon boat.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 10:53:03 AM
YIPPEE SUPS is HERE :jumpy:!!
eta: ok I see the drum now  :waves:

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Neobie on April 17, 2007, 10:53:58 AM
Praying to Kun Iam?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00144-17-2007.jpg)

(http://www.chinapictures.org/images/macau/1/macau-31204141321013.jpg)

And this one's under the Macau-Taipa Bridge...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00424-17-2007.jpg)

(http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/2521/image204copy1.jpg)

And you can see both from the Macau Tower... (Oswald/Danny's bridge is the one closer to the foreground.)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/225708876_82baf620d4.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Kogs on April 17, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
puddin --look at the shot of the boat with the drum--

here's something similar

revisiting a tar2 detour but not in hk instead in macau?? lol
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:59:43 AM
annielhy gave us this before;

Hi. Keep in mind, there are TurboJet from Macau to HK Airport.
If they are smart, they shouldn't return to Sheung Wan or Tsim Sha Tsui Pier
And this:
To Macau 1: HK-Macau Pier, Sheung Wan (15 minutes per TurboJet)
Transport: MTR (above MTR exit, 5-10 minutes run from exit, "Sheung Wan" Station)

To Macau 2: China-HK Pier, Tsim Sha Tsui (30 minutes per TurboJet)
Transport: MTR (10-15 minutes run from exit A, "Tsim Sha Tsui" Station or "Jordan" Station), Taxi
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 11:27:08 AM
Good job everyone!! Slowhatch that does look like the gardens where Dee takes the face plant  :lol:

So there is a pitstop in Macau? Probably D/K conf telling us about the deal they made with EDEE

Dustin Conf: We're going to race like were in last place.

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 11:34:13 AM
I have to admit, E/D agreeing to work with D/K will probably be the smartest thing they have done all season...infact...it COULD be what will lead to their very, very possible win  :groan: LOL

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Post by: Big Papi on April 17, 2007, 11:42:48 AM
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Good job everyone!! Slowhatch that does look like the gardens where Dee takes the face plant  :lol:

It looks like EDEE are copying C/M. Eric and Mirna mocking the Yield Queens on the Insider Videos/Mat Chats and Charla and Dee taking nosedives   ;D
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 11:58:28 AM
Macau Almond Cookies are famous..?

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 12:08:10 PM
I;m still thinking that that stuff in the blue tub looks like plaster of paris to me--used to make casts. Could they (E/D) be making some kind of a mold or mask using plaster of paris?

And is that also the same place with the bamboo pole? Are they related? The room E/D is in looks nicer than the one C/M are in....

Incidental nice shot of Eric's watch-- 5:30??

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 12:27:02 PM
I've  sent an email to the Macau Dragon Boat Club asking if they have any information. :lol:
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 12:32:37 PM
 ;D  FWIW


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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 12:40:06 PM
Wow--good job everybody!

Neobie, Slowhatch, Boingo, puddin--great finds!  :happy:

Boingo--is the name of that one really TurboJet? Because we should be able to find out exactly where it leaves from...


Nevermind--got it!  Turbojet  (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/index.htm)

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Post by: wifeofUSMCsgt on April 17, 2007, 12:49:04 PM
;D  FWIW


That looks just like the boat my husband road from Japan to Thailand when he was in the Marines. I have pics of it at home (I'm at work). I'll have to check it out when I get home.
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 12:59:20 PM
 ;)  Cool, peach!

FWIW - New Macau Maritime Ferry Terminal & Heliport


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Post by: gator27 on April 17, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
Macau Almond Cookies are famous..?
Macau Almond Cookie store
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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 01:10:37 PM
 ;) FWIW, since the last pitstop was on HK Island, they probably will take the ferry to Macau from the Turbo Jet Terminal near Sheung Wan.

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 01:11:36 PM


So there is a pitstop in Macau? Probably D/K conf telling us about the deal they made with EDEE

Dustin Conf: We're going to race like were in last place.

Two things:

Why are you sure it is making a deal with E/D? Did I miss something? Seems like E/D are further behind the BQ's and maybe more unlikely to be there at the same time...I was thinking D/O??

And just throwing this out--since it looks like we have a pitstop or at least a confessional in Macau--should we reevaluate our Guam info?

We know now that the 5th and 4th teams out are travelling with production and can be used as decoys.

Maybe what foxburn got  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg172594.html#msg172594) from chevy re Guam was D/O acting as a decoy and they go out in Hong Kong?? (Always assuming the bootlist stays accurate ;))
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Charla/Mirna were first with (again) a huge lead
Eric/Danielle were next followed by...
BQ's and...
Cha Cha Chas's (still in it in guam apparently)
 

unknown if this was at a detour or a roadblock, of course...


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Post by: Riomangatar on April 17, 2007, 01:11:56 PM
This HAS to be the TBC leg because it wouldn't make any sense of doing the TBC the finale, with a stop on hawaii. The fianle is one hour long so the editors wouldn't make a TBC leg only one hour (half hour one leg and half hour the other)
So:
Hong Kong>>>Macau - TBC
Macau>>>Guam - Elimination
Guam>>>Hawaii>>>San Francisco
This makes more sense than having Guam>>>Hawaii with a pit stop on hawaii
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 01:17:37 PM
Logic leads me to believe that EDEE & the BQ's make the deal.
Up thread I wrote that the teams might have to find a clue that tells them to go to Macau from somewhere in HK and it sure looks like EDEE are running around HK streets for some reason and this could get them ahead of O/D & C/M putting the BQ's & EDEE together to deal with the Yield Deal ..
just my opinion of course
weather underground Macau Dec 13th 2006 (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/VMMC/2006/12/13/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA), it was in the 60's all day and mainly cloudy.
also light rain in the 14th (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/VMMC/2006/12/14/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA).
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 01:21:18 PM
Unless  the remaining legs are :

Hong Kong>>>Macau - Elim
Macau>>>Guam >>Hawaii TBC
Hawaii>>San Fran =Finale

just thinking here....


Thanks puddin!    :kissy:   I was too stuck on the time thing...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 01:23:05 PM
This HAS to be the TBC leg because it wouldn't make any sense of doing the TBC the finale, with a stop on hawaii. The fianle is one hour long so the editors wouldn't make a TBC leg only one hour (half hour one leg and half hour the other)
So:
Hong Kong>>>Macau - TBC
Macau>>>Guam - Elimination
Guam>>>Hawaii>>>San Francisco
This makes more sense than having Guam>>>Hawaii with a pit stop on hawaii
We have proof that the HK leg was on the 12th of Dec..The leg might begin on the 13th of Dec? and we have a witness that says she was boarding a ferry with the Cha's and Phil on the 14th heading back to HK from Macau so?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Thanks for the nice maps Boingo! :tup:

and now I want a cookie again darn it  :lol:
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
 :js:  TurboJet Ferry Ticket (Macau-HK)  $176 HKD is about $22.50 USD.   :snicker:

I just had a bunch of cookies, peach.  :food:

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 01:50:56 PM
I;m still thinking that that stuff in the blue tub looks like plaster of paris to me--used to make casts. Could they (E/D) be making some kind of a mold or mask using plaster of paris?

And is that also the same place with the bamboo pole? Are they related? The room E/D is in looks nicer than the one C/M are in....

Incidental nice shot of Eric's watch-- 5:30??
I'll keep looking for cookies/ bakeries peach, so many in Macau you wouldn't beleive it  :lol: I'm just guessing here.
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 01:56:07 PM
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 02:03:18 PM
So do we think that the blue tub shot with E/D and the bamboo shots with C/M and the BQ's are different or the same place?

If different--why do we have four things? (tower, dragon boat, blue tub, bamboo)

Hmmm, maybe it isn't a detour choice but a do something to get your next clue in Hong Kong...

If the same place, why would they need a piece of bamboo to make cookies? for that matter, why would they need a piece of bamboo to do something with what looks like to me like plaster of paris and the cloth to make a mold/cast? :lol: :lol3: :lol:

Now I'm hearing Oswald say Coook-ees!


Hey Boingo! )-**  Can't you tell we are spoiler starved around here? We're grasping at cookies! :lol:
Nevermind--I thought you meant puddin and me beating dead horses which probably applies too! Have a cookie! :kissy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 02:10:04 PM
Heee....

I figured it out! The D/O dragon boat task must be ANOTHER FF!  :lol: :lol3: :lol: 

:colealert:   --or not? ???
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
 ;)  Looks like the writing on the Dragon Boat paddles might just say Macau.   :groan:  Go figure!


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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 02:11:29 PM
Tower Roadblock Charla so far
 Dragon boat & red drum go together Detour option? Cha's
 Dough/Plaster the other detour option. E/D , C/M, BQ's

whats the bamboo that you speak of?  :lol:
 
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Post by: supsandalee on April 17, 2007, 02:13:09 PM
So do we think that the blue tub shot with E/D and the bamboo shots with C/M and the BQ's are different or the same place?

If different--why do we have four things? (tower, dragon boat, blue tub, bamboo)

And don't forget about the funny cars.

Do we have any idea how far apart the teams were at checkin? D/O should have the largest gap. There must be an equalizer somewhere but I looked at the Honk Kong to Macau ferry schedule and they run all night.


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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 02:25:33 PM
Breaking a big piece of bamboo?

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
Breaking a big piece of bamboo?
To me it looks like they are mixing something  :lol:! up and down up and down ..

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 02:34:50 PM
Okay...I'm getting there! One big cookie stirrer??

I've just put on too many casts--the blue tub still looks like plaster of paris to me! But i guess the white bag could be sugar or flour instead?


Hi sups!  :hithere:

I saw a nice timeline guesstimite yesterday--I'll try to find it again. But I think they thought that each team was about an hour apart from the next one...
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 02:37:49 PM
 :-\  OK, I'm bored.  Just for kicks, there is a Dragon Boat Statue at the base of the Macau Tower (which you can see through the tower's glass floors).  Freaky!  :o    Well, I did say I was bored  :groan:

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 02:38:46 PM
Well they very well maybe mixing plaster? Cookies was a guess.
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Post by: gator27 on April 17, 2007, 02:43:09 PM
Breaking a big piece of bamboo?

Maybe they are trying to crush something with the big bamboo.
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 02:47:14 PM
Maybe they are trying to crush something with the big bamboo.

 :lol3:   :rotf:   ;D   ;)

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 02:48:02 PM
Press Release!!

TEAMS BATTLE THEIR FEAR OF HEIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO JUMP OFF ONE OF THE WORLD'S TALLEST FREE-STANDING STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR NEXT CLUE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS," APRIL 22 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
       "Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams come face-to-face with their fear of heights during a harrowing Roadblock that finds the Racers plunging over 600 feet in the highest "descender" jump in the history of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 22 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
 


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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 02:51:58 PM
Breaking a big piece of bamboo?

Maybe they are trying to crush something with the big bamboo.
Nut Crushers?  :CnJ: :stirtp:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 02:53:07 PM
 :yess: A JUMP!

They are doing the sky dive then, not the sky walk!
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 02:55:13 PM
A giant rolling pin, maybe?  :lol:
Isn't Charla's outfit different? Maybe they do both tower tasks.
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 03:01:34 PM
YEAH wait dog gone  minute!!

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
Maybe they do both?!


It looks like she could have just placed that blue thing over the yellow thing!

and yay, the highest jump ever on TAR?! Finally, a decent nerve racking RB, a shock yield, what more could I ask for?
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 03:05:34 PM
plaster making looks like you need some safety glass's?

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 03:12:48 PM
I still can't believe that this probably won't be a TBC. If it weren't for that stupid D/O confessional I would bet they were decoy, and just running along with the racers in Guam.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 03:17:27 PM
Here's the link to all the tower adventures (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp) in case you missed it before--there are videos and everything.

In addition to the skywalk there are two other options for bungy type things:

One is called SkyJump and one is Bungy. Both dress in the blue outfit while the Skywalk is in the orange.

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 03:31:33 PM
The secret of the egg tart  (http://www.lordstow.com/)  :lol:
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
 :-\ FWIW  Lot's of Almond Cookie places in Macau.  :groan:   Among the biggies are:

Choi Heong Yuen Bakery
Koi Kei Bakery


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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 03:49:57 PM
We're both nuts! :lol:

I was thinking more of making a mold out of plaster of paris (http://www.ebsqart.com/ArtMagazine/za_277.htm):

Go to the link for the rest....

For your afternoon delight we have Arts and Crafts 101!

FWIW I'd much rather it be Cookies too! Maybe that's why E/D are actually smiling?!



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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 03:55:40 PM
Press Release!!

TEAMS BATTLE THEIR FEAR OF HEIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO JUMP OFF ONE OF THE WORLD'S TALLEST FREE-STANDING STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR NEXT CLUE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS," APRIL 22 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
       "Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams come face-to-face with their fear of heights during a harrowing Roadblock that finds the Racers plunging over 600 feet in the highest "descender" jump in the history of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 22 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
 


TEAMS--as in both members?? Could this be yet another task?

Teams (both members) have to do the SkyJump and one does the SkyWalk =Task/Detour+Roadblock (doubt this) OR one team member does both the Skywalk and the SkyJump=Roadblock??
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
^^ Mirna's not suited up, shes watching

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 04:14:13 PM
Okay--Roadblock for sure then.

Maybe they have to do all the tasks at that level of the tower--Sky walk+jump+bungy??!!

And re glass floors--the CNN Tower in Toronto has one that totally freaked me out! I was absolutely determined that I could walk out on it with no problem--but my mind had other ideas and froze me in place! I finally did it by walking onto it backwards!  :rotf:

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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 04:19:07 PM
Well its doesn't look very sanitary to be food so ?  Just not thinking outside the box :lol:


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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 04:21:55 PM
 :rotf: :lol:

LOL, that's true Puddin
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 04:24:24 PM
 :-\  I agree, not very clean.  Could the sacks behind C/M be rice?  Maybe this is a rice wine brewery/distillery, and they are making the mash.  Don't have to be too clean as the alcohol will kill any germs.  Just thinking outside the box.  Maybe that's why the BQ's are smiling.   ;)   B:)   :groan:
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 04:36:39 PM
Yeah we are all nuts  :lol:
Maybe its a Chinese laundry mat?

lol Boingo  :rotf:
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 17, 2007, 05:04:04 PM
This HAS to be the TBC leg because it wouldn't make any sense of doing the TBC the finale, with a stop on hawaii. The fianle is one hour long so the editors wouldn't make a TBC leg only one hour (half hour one leg and half hour the other)
So:
Hong Kong>>>Macau - TBC
Macau>>>Guam - Elimination
Guam>>>Hawaii>>>San Francisco
This makes more sense than having Guam>>>Hawaii with a pit stop on hawaii

Don't see how this ep can be TBC; if it were then EDee would have to win the next leg or beat the Chas by 30 minutes.  TAR has never had a team "marked for elimination" carried through two eps.  If poor EDee have to carry the threat of Philimination through two legs (Macao and Guam) they certainly are going to be under a lot of stress, more so than usual.

I am of the opinion that this leg is elimination no. 8 and that the Chas go on to Guam as decoy team.  We have had three final teams in the final two eps on several early occasions.

Just me thinking out loud.
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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 05:09:40 PM
Yeah, but what about their confessional that is supposed to be from Guam?
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 05:28:50 PM
heres the web promo

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 05:30:52 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/michael_dimech15/surprised.gif)
my expression if half of our speculation will actually be right this week!

ooh, thanks for posting that Puddin, it's a lot easier then going to CBS everytime to see it.
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Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 05:41:35 PM
 :lol:  Ahhh...the video makes things a lot clearer, puddin.  Could it be possible that the bamboo stick is being used as a giant lever to press the small white bundle?  Looks like they are pressing down on the bamboo.     :umn:

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Post by: mswood on April 17, 2007, 06:01:37 PM
G-Man and Michael

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if its a TBC leg.

After all in the producers eye its just one leg.  So the penalty wouldn't bedelayed it would be at the Pit Stop.

We have also had proof that the producers have put a yield at the first ahlf of a TBC leg (even if no one yielded then).

If its done that way I have no problem, I have always thought teams should really have to prove that they should be in it.  So that idea actually makes it more interesting in my opinion.

Especially sine only two teams have managed to be in first at both end points of the TBC leg (Eric & Jeremy and Tyler & James).  So it can be done, you just have to really ge on your toes.
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Post by: mswood on April 17, 2007, 06:03:38 PM
I wonder if Danielle well freak out about the jump, since she should be the one doing it (shouldn't bother Eric , he didn't seem to have any problem skydiving).

And Peach, yeah not only a height challange but jumping. :yess: :happy: :jumpy:
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 17, 2007, 06:03:45 PM
It's not bamboo.

It looks like a steel pole with marked gradations along it.

But why O why ?   :umn:
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Post by: mswood on April 17, 2007, 06:07:30 PM

And re glass floors--the CNN Tower in Toronto has one that totally freaked me out! I was absolutely determined that I could walk out on it with no problem--but my mind had other ideas and froze me in place! I finally did it by walking onto it backwards!  :rotf:

When I was in Japan my freinds (evil spawn of Hell) got me into a elevator that was outsidea building.  It freaked me the hell out.  My friends had to pull me by the hands out of the elevator at the end, I was so scared. (:;), but afterwards I rode twice by myself to help get over the fear.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
Chateau!

Time shot for you! ;D

Note the clock on the wall, the scale, the table covered with ?saran wrap, the marked gradations on the bamboo/steel pole thingy, and the packet being squished?

And another watch on Eric shot!

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 06:28:37 PM
I'm from Toronto, and the CN tower glass floor still freaks me out every time I go..

Great time shots Peach!
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Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 06:29:01 PM
So I guess they aren't making cookies or enchiladas or plaster   :snicker:
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Post by: hakushu8 on April 17, 2007, 06:29:52 PM
They are making bamboo pole noodles (http://www.ipim.gov.mo/en/publication/macauimage/cover/no37_08.htm)! :wohoo:

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Another name for zhusheng noodles is bamboo-pole noodles because their manufacturers use a two-metre-long, four-centimetre-wide bamboo pole to hit the dough to produce the noodles, which are made from flour, eggs and alkaline water. As it is hot in Guangdong, alkaline water prevents the noodles from going off. This water can also improve the flavour and texture. Some elderly people believe zhusheng noodles can help with excessive stomach acid as they contain alkaline water, that is why it is so important for the production of zhusheng noodles.

And the place I think, is okay. Doesn't need to be that clean. :rotf:
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 06:38:41 PM
 :yess: That looks like it! Here's a Flickr set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaxiubao/sets/72157594415086177/) that shows the process in detail.

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
wow - great job slowhatch!!!  :wohoo:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 06:41:00 PM
YAAY! hakushu8 to the rescue! I was tired of plaster!

Now is that something you knew already or something you found out--because I've been googling bamboo all day! ???

Great work! And thanks Slowhatch!

Okay then--(help me here Chateau or anyone)--when I super enlarge those pics--

I think Eric's watch says 5:30? and the clock on the wall for C/M says about 7:05?

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 06:43:04 PM
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't see hakushu8's post! GREAT JOB!  :jam:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Boingo on April 17, 2007, 06:56:18 PM
 :lol:  This comes up when I google noodle factories in Macau is:

Va Heng Noodle Factory Macao
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 17, 2007, 07:01:03 PM
 :jam:

I just happened to stumble upon the site when I used the keywords "macau bamboo pole" in Google, peach. It's the fourth link when I googled the keywords. My initial thought was that they were in a bakery, using the bamboo pole to operate that (I forgot the proper term) air blower you can use to give oxygen to burning coal.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
 :lol: whatever this is?

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Post by: Parasite© on April 17, 2007, 07:05:52 PM
Hey! New here.

Anyway, in regards to the TBC leg, I think that Sunday's episode will be the first part of a TBC.

Does anyone think that the confessional from DK about 'racing like they were in last place' could be before this leg actually begins, instead of after it? That could explain why they have the same clothes on. Even if it is from after the leg is over, it could still be a TBC leg. DK might not have had time to change clothes due to the fact that they had to keep racing.

A TBC leg would also explain the DO confessional in Guam. This Sunday's episode will be in Macau, next Sunday in Guam, where they are eliminated.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 07:07:17 PM
Well great job! I'm So glad to know what that is! (Do you mean a bellows?)

Ewww--I'm not eating it!  Wait--maybe it is Southern barbequed chicken! :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
:lol:  This comes up when I google noodle factories in Macau is:

Va Heng Noodle Factory Macao
We're losing it! :lol:  :yess:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 07:08:52 PM
Welcome! I love your avatar :rotf:

Well, the thing about the confessional is that they don't usually sit the teams down to talk before a leg begins, the usually interview them BEFORE the leg while they are waiting for their check-out time so they can rip open their clue.

I'm guessing IF this was to be a TBC episode there would be a major bunching point (plane ride) and the racers would probably change their clothes because we have a confessional from O/D that hasn't been seen yet, which = Guam, and they are wearing different clothes then they are wearing in Macau.

Sorry if this post was conusing!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:11:22 PM
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Sorry if this post was conusing!
  :lol:  Now I'm conused!
Good job hakushu  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 17, 2007, 07:12:08 PM
Those look like meat, puddin. :lol:

Oh, and peach, I guess that's the word. Thanks! ;D

:welcome2: Parasite©! :waves: Your avatar is awesome.

It could be before the leg, but no confessionals from HK with the teams being inside any curtained room have been shown so far. Unless the curtained room is in Guam, which is somehow unlikely because those are heavy curtains and the weather here won't agree with it. Although the teams were here in December, and it was definitely cooler than the weather right now. Summer months in the tropics...  :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:14:39 PM
lol, my mom would be ashamed! An Italian that doesn't know her noodles  :angel:
Welcome Parasite :hithere:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 07:16:05 PM
LOL, I meant confusing..hey, you aren't alone puddin, a maltese boy that doesn't know his pasta is just as shameful!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:21:43 PM
Hey at least I thought it was food not plaster  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 07:24:20 PM
LOL, sometimes I think we might be just a little bit crazy. :snicker: :-[ ..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 07:33:53 PM
Hey at least I thought it was food not plaster  :lol:

I heard that! :groan: I've spent way too much time in the plaster bucket! :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 07:41:28 PM
:yess: That looks like it! Here's a Flickr set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaxiubao/sets/72157594415086177/) that shows the process in detail.
Heres  the story of Mr. Choi and his bamboo pasta (http://chaxiubao.typepad.com/chaxiubao/2006/12/bamboo_pasta.html) and heres the ANTHONY BOURDAIN: NO RESERVATIONS 2 site  (http://travel.discovery.com/tv/bourdain/bourdain-season3.html).
I saw this guy hurl once on tv  :snicker:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Parasite© on April 17, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
Thanks for the welcome guys.  ;D

Yeah, I never thought about looking at previous HK confessionals.

Guess I need to put more thought into it.  :lol:

Feb 2005? They wouldn't have even been filming any TAR then. Hmm...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: amazing_hey on April 17, 2007, 08:22:17 PM
Let me make a guess

next week E.n.D cooperate with beauty queen....It will be shocking to others teams

The reason why BQs work with E.n.D would be because they don want to be yielded....

E.n.D might yield either CHAs or Charla Mirna....

And I guess Charla Mirna is the team which get yielded....

The reason of yielding them is beacuse they get E.n.D flight on this leg and it puts E.n.D in the last place....

You can see only Charla Mirna were the only team in the roadblock....

Which means they are either 1st or in last place....

If they are in last place that means they are yielded....

The reason of being lastplace would be because of their car driving....



And about the "generous offer" must be something related to "Good Doing Business with You"....

what I guess is Charla Mirna is stay in Last place with Cha Cha Cha....

And they ask Cha Cha Cha to let them to go to Final three....

As Cha Cha Cha love to help Charla Mirna so maybe they promise them....

And the Generous offer maybe the half of the million dollars....(Like A Business)....

That is just what I guess....
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: amazing_hey on April 17, 2007, 08:35:04 PM
In HK episode....

Charla MIrna said they will work with E.n.D to kick BQs out of the race....

However Charla Mirna just grabed E.n.D flight seat....

Therefore there is a reason for Charla Mirna be yield
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: amazing_hey on April 17, 2007, 08:41:20 PM
The reason for Cha Cha Cha be yielded might be because they always come in first....

Here is what I think....

Yield used: E.n.D
Yielded: Charla Mirna / Cha Cha Cha

Booted: Cha Cha Cha (becuz of the generous offer? :umn:)

Cha Cha Cha always come in Fouth after a first place finish.....

Do you guy think Cha Cha Cha is going to give up the final three in order to let Charla Mirna to get into final three?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 08:48:30 PM
the "accept" payment makes me think that it might be D&K and D&O that team up (and yield E/D) because D&O have no money left..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 08:51:01 PM
D/O will get more money at the start of the leg..they have to pay for that Turbo-Jet $$$$ and then some.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2007, 08:52:05 PM
I'm sorry, I can only muddy the waters. A search of the Macau yellow pages turns up more than a dozen noodle factories ("fabricas"). And there are some restaurants, like this place (http://www.yp.com.mo/feichaiman/), that brag about their bamboo noodles; it's unknown whether they "roll their own" or send out to a fabrica. We're going to need more markers to ID it.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
 :groan:
oh mi dios I completely forgot they get money at the start of each leg.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 09:03:09 PM
one more time ..

 
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 17, 2007, 09:25:44 PM
G-Man and Michael

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if its a TBC leg.

After all in the producers eye its just one leg.  So the penalty wouldn't bedelayed it would be at the Pit Stop.

We have also had proof that the producers have put a yield at the first ahlf of a TBC leg (even if no one yielded then).

If its done that way I have no problem, I have always thought teams should really have to prove that they should be in it.  So that idea actually makes it more interesting in my opinion.

Especially sine only two teams have managed to be in first at both end points of the TBC leg (Eric & Jeremy and Tyler & James).  So it can be done, you just have to really ge on your toes.

I'm still in favor of an Ellimination Leg.  For the record, six of the ten previous TARs have eliminated the F4 team after leg 11 and had three teams run together through the last two legs (TARs 1,2,3,4,7, and 9).  Under current rules, being "marked for elimination" after the penultimate leg would be no great deal, since the teams are racing  to come in FIRST and WIN anyway.

I see no problem with the Chas confessional being recorded in Guam even if they are not competing there (only running a decoy leg); perhaps there wasn't time in Macao to do it since they may have arrived so late at the Pit Stop the production crew was anxious to pack up and get on to the next location.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 10:00:33 PM
 maybe we can find where this is?

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:12:31 PM
Or here?

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Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 10:20:20 PM
At first I thought the streets matched Largo Do Senado, but then that place looks to fancy to match up with this photos..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Parasite© on April 17, 2007, 10:42:03 PM
D/O will get more money at the start of the leg..they have to pay for that Turbo-Jet $$$$ and then some.
Which raises an interesting point.

The bribe doesn't have to be money. Could be something else. Don't know what it would be though.

Dustin is messing around with something in her hands while she talks about the bribe in the previews, but I don't think it's money.   ???
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 10:46:20 PM
E/D need to step on the mat first so as not to have the 30 minute penalty, so that's a possibility for some sort of agreement.

Remember that both O/D and E/D are low on funds, and we don't know yet how much they receive.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 17, 2007, 11:00:50 PM
Remember at this point most teams should have squirled away funds from prievious legs (one of the reasons over the years we have seen egs with One dollar being given at teh start of the leg, or even no dollars).  But several teams this year are seriously low on funds.  Oswald & Danny who spend ther reserve in Leg 9, and even going to less places in leg 10 went through all the provided funds for that leg.  Charla & Mirna who should be fairly low since in every leg they have needed to navigate they have paid either locals or cabs to guide them (thats gets expensive), Eric and Danielle have had two legs where money was an issue due to spending unplained nights in hotels for legs where they fell behind lead teams trying to get airline tickets (so hotel and cabs to and from and food) for overnight stays not planned.

So money could be a big issue, I can't see how Charla & Mirna should have much to offer anotehr team though, unless they have been begging locals to pay the bills for them (which is legal).
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 11:09:36 PM

loads of Macau stuff here

http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Macau/latest.html
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 11:26:21 PM
Can we readdress this issue pretty please?


And just throwing this out--since it looks like we have a pitstop or at least a confessional in Macau--should we reevaluate our Guam info?

We know now that the 5th and 4th teams out are travelling with production and can be used as decoys.

Maybe what foxburn got  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg172594.html#msg172594) from chevy re Guam was D/O acting as a decoy and they go out in Hong Kong?? (Always assuming the bootlist stays accurate ;))
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Charla/Mirna were first with (again) a huge lead
Eric/Danielle were next followed by...
BQ's and...
Cha Cha Chas's (still in it in guam apparently)
 

unknown if this was at a detour or a roadblock, of course...

I don't think we have confessionals in nice places on a TBC as the racers are still racing.

We think we have a confessional from the Cha's in Guam, but do we really? Could this be from somewhere else?

So what do y'all think--TBC (so why do we have a BQ confessional?), NEL (really? two back to back would be silly....) or Bertram's  mystery?

Are the Cha's gone this week or not till next?

I'm confused!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 17, 2007, 11:29:31 PM
I'm going to stay they are around until Guam. I just hope C/M screw up and lose their lead again though!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 17, 2007, 11:50:43 PM
chevy wrote (http://www.outsports.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=5497&view=findpost&p=312439)
I heard about the Amazing Race All Stars. As it turns out that I was on Guam for business this week and got to see a few of the All-Star teams complete in some challenges. For the sake of integrity, I won't mention what teams I saw but I did get to see them do the road blocks. It was interesting to see the behind the scenes part of it all just for a few minutes of footage. They did their competition on the AF base there and it was pretty cool. We were not allowed to take pictures for obvious reasons. I can't wait to see the episodes air in Feb to see how it turns out.

then wrote (http://www.outsports.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=37265&view=findpost&p=315558)
You will be surprised on who the final 4 will be. I had the opportunity to see all 4 teams in action during a stop in Guam in Dec. IT was very interesting to see what goes behind the filming. It will be interesting to see what actually makes it on TV. They probably filmed for a couple of hours to get just a few minutes of final footage. When the epsiode airs, I will give you more of my take on the "realism" of the tasks accomplished.

fashionblue wrote (http://talkback.stomp.com.sg/forums/archive/index.php/t-9085.html)
fashionblue19-12-2006, 02:19 AM
I happened to be in Macau going back to Hong Kong on 14 Dec and I saw the Amazing Race teams there. It was obvious because the camera men were rushing to film the teams buying the ferry tickets. I recognised one of the pairs (Danny or Oswald I think) from Season 2 but he was partnering with another guy. And when I boarded the ferry, Phil was seated behind me. I casually joked, "oh so the AR teams are here huh?". He just smiled. When I asked if I could take a pic with him, he said "I'll be in deep trouble if I do that!".

eta:
RNO (http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article6831.art&page=1)
RNO: I noticed on the first episode that Phil said that a team “will” be eliminated. On the most reason seasons, he's been saying “may” be eliminated at Pit Stops. He also mentioned eight eliminations, but he didn't say anything about the number of non-elimination legs. Is there a reason for this change?

Van Munster: No... The reason – you'll find out when you watch all 13 episodes. Very good of you [to notice that]!

(below)
Cha mystery confessional

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2007, 11:59:55 PM
Just asking but there is still nothing there that would prevent D/O to be running decoy there rather than as an actual racer, right? In all three of those cases?

Now know that I absolutely want them around as long as possible--I'm just confused by the BQ confessional this week which in my mind rules out a TBC. Unless of course, they've edited in that confessional from a later date.  :groan:

My head hurts.

puddin--do you think it is TBC, NEL, or something else?

Do you think that D/O are around another week?

Anyone else?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Boingo on April 18, 2007, 12:00:16 AM
Cuz it's there...   :angel:

...just in case space aliens need to know where they are...

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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 12:15:36 AM
Sorry about that statue  :-[ ( snickers cameltoe)

peach ..BQ's clothes match and they are saying" we are gonna race like we're in last place"
I don't think they would think that far in advance to make the Yield deal.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Boingo on April 18, 2007, 12:22:41 AM
 :js:  The "wavy" street decorations are not too common in Macau (as far as I can see from GE).  It occurs in a few places.  Kinda matches the cobblestone decorations that C/M are standing on.  Can't pin it down just yet, but Macau isn't that big.   ;)

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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 12:46:48 AM
^^ see if this helps Boingo

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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 12:50:57 AM
oh this is footage from last week?

nevermind  :tup:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00174-17-2007.jpg)

isn't this from the last leg when Danielle said that HK is exactly like New York?

Also, Dustins hair is exactly the same in the confessional as it is in the Macau leg...looking more and more like no TBC... :yess: library period

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: apskip on April 18, 2007, 03:11:46 AM
I have some interesting news courtesy of someone at TWOP. The flights taken through Vietnam only operate on certain days and that means that there was a 36 hour pit stop at Kuala Lumpur. Teams did not leave there until Dec. 12.

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Neobie on April 18, 2007, 03:46:09 AM
Not Largo do Senado, I think. It'd be flooded with tourists. Looks like a run-down part of town, and no high-rises in the background. I'd think it'd be on Taipa or Coloane?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 18, 2007, 05:03:07 AM
Lol I knew that Eric quote in Mozambique would be somewhat foreshadowing "We got beaten by a bunch of Queens". Well not beaten, but yielded.

D/K give money to O/D to yield C/M. I bet my life on it. Well not really my life but whatever. Actually I bet nothing.

P.S There may be a chance the Chas run a decoy leg in Guam/give their confessionals there. This NEL Penalty doesn't fit into ANYTHING! ARGH! Because it'd be mean for E/D to have it over 2 legs.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 09:12:25 AM
Can we readdress this issue pretty please?

I don't think we have confessionals in nice places on a TBC as the racers are still racing.

We think we have a confessional from the Cha's in Guam, but do we really? Could this be from somewhere else?

So what do y'all think--TBC (so why do we have a BQ confessional?), NEL (really? two back to back would be silly....) or Bertram's  mystery?

Are the Cha's gone this week or not till next?

I'm confused!



I'm still going with a TBC for Macau. I see two senarios for the BQ confessional.

1. The confessional is in Guam. It was done inside because of the time of day/night they arrived.

OR (and this is my favorite option)

2. This is a future confessional (right before the final leg begins). I remember we had some future confessionals in TAR 10 (Tyler and James come to mind).

Saying "we are going to race like we are in last place" would be something you would say on the final stretch. As for the clothes, those are the clothes they began the race with. Traditionally we've seen teams end the race with the same clothes they began with.



Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 09:17:29 AM
I have some interesting news courtesy of somone at TWOP. The flights taken through Vietnam only operate on certain days and that means that there was a 36 hour pit stop at Kuala Lumpur. Teams did not leave there until Dec. 12.



When you have some extra Internet time,  read my post here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11872.msg184634.html#msg184634) which discusses that.  Have fun and enjoy the Barrier Reef!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 09:23:01 AM
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1. The confessional is in Guam. It was done inside because of the time of day/night they arrived.

OR (and this is my favorite option)

2. This is a future confessional (right before the final leg begins). I remember we had some future confessionals in TAR 10 (Tyler and James come to mind).

I don't see D/K running two full legs in the same clothes, espically since it was raining in Macau, their clothes would be dirtier then normal.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 09:33:43 AM

I'm still going with a TBC for Macau. I see two senarios for the BQ confessional.

1. The confessional is in Guam. It was done inside because of the time of day/night they arrived.

OR (and this is my favorite option)

2. This is a future confessional (right before the final leg begins). I remember we had some future confessionals in TAR 10 (Tyler and James come to mind).

Saying "we are going to race like we are in last place" would be something you would say on the final stretch. As for the clothes, those are the clothes they began the race with. Traditionally we've seen teams end the race with the same clothes they began with.

Thanks sups!  :waves:
I think you are right on the money! The BQ's look too happy in that confessional to not already be in the final three. I had thought the same  upstream,  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184643.html#msg184643) but then puddin convinced me otherwise but I have now been re-convinced that this must be once they are final three!

What do you think about when O/D go out??






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Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 09:35:48 AM
Actually if you think about it, based on web promos you can tell that the BQs will actually stop at nothing to make it into the F3, so I think this is when they find out that Macau was a NEL.

I'm sticking with my - the rain would have made them changed my theory.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 09:39:25 AM
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1. The confessional is in Guam. It was done inside because of the time of day/night they arrived.

OR (and this is my favorite option)

2. This is a future confessional (right before the final leg begins). I remember we had some future confessionals in TAR 10 (Tyler and James come to mind).

I don't see D/K running two full legs in the same clothes, espically since it was raining in Macau, their clothes would be dirtier then normal.


Exactly, but they wouldn't be wearing those clothes in Guam. Girly, girls won't stay in wet clothes. I'm sure they get their clothes laundered at the pitstops - how else could they always start a leg looking so fresh!

In either case I believe the statement of about running like they were last means they are currently in first.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 09:39:53 AM
Michael--they still have plenty of time to do some laundry! ;)

Who knew sups and I share one mind! :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 09:45:42 AM
Well, between TBC episodes there is no rest period to do laundry, and they never have the teams sit down before the leg begins, so that would rule out the possibilty of this being before the start of the final leg.

Based on what all past racers say they do pitstop confessionals when teams arrive at the pitstop. I do however agree that their statement places them at the top. I'm sticking with E/D coming in first this week (  :'( ) and D/K 2nd. Their comment is kind of strange, it makes them seem like they are at the front.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 10:01:47 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23729;image)
(http://www.macauheritage.net/tour/images/chtA15_3l.jpg)
Lou Lim Ieoc Chinese Garden , A Suzhou-Style Garden

Could the house that Danielle is seen running towards be the pit stop? It matches the photo I found, I think.

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
I'm being dumb and just looking for possible pitstop locations around the garden...it doesn't match with that white building...but it's the only building I can find that has a name!

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Macao Tea Culture House

Inaugurated on June 1, 2005, the Macao Tea Culture House was founded under the painstaking efforts of the Civic and Municipal Affairs Bureau and the zealous support of enthusiasts. Restored by the renowned architect, Carlos Marreiros, it preserves the distinct Portuguese-styled appearance but furnished with a Chinese tiled roof, in line with the Portuguese architectures around the area. Located in the Lou Lim Ieoc Garden, the Macao Tea Culture House complements to the Suzhou-inspired landscaped settings in the garden, which is likened to the historical role played by Macao in the cultural exchange between the East and West.
Address : Lou Lim Ieoc Garden, Estrada Adolfo Loreiro, No.10


Source:http://www.cityguide.gov.mo/tg/detail.asp?lc=2&lkey=02051700000000000000&ClassName=museum

There are also two buildings in the garden at the bottom of this page:
http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Macau/blog-118960-21.html
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 10:20:16 AM
Michael the garden was covered back on page 3? Don't know if its the pitstop? or place to get a clue?

So some of you think this is the BQ's in Guam? Where is the Cha's confessional then?
I think its some weird NEL in Macau, something we have to "The reason – you'll find out when you watch all 13 episodes" BVM
Guam, temps in the 80's on Dec 15th ...Cha's in tanktops & shorts ( and I've looked at every Cha Mat chat /insider clip and nothing match's this scene )


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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 18, 2007, 10:21:47 AM
Can we readdress this issue pretty please?


And just throwing this out--since it looks like we have a pitstop or at least a confessional in Macau--should we reevaluate our Guam info?

We know now that the 5th and 4th teams out are travelling with production and can be used as decoys.

Maybe what foxburn got  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg172594.html#msg172594) from chevy re Guam was D/O acting as a decoy and they go out in Hong Kong?? (Always assuming the bootlist stays accurate ;))
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Charla/Mirna were first with (again) a huge lead
Eric/Danielle were next followed by...
BQ's and...
Cha Cha Chas's (still in it in guam apparently)
 

unknown if this was at a detour or a roadblock, of course...

I don't think we have confessionals in nice places on a TBC as the racers are still racing.

We think we have a confessional from the Cha's in Guam, but do we really? Could this be from somewhere else?

So what do y'all think--TBC (so why do we have a BQ confessional?), NEL (really? two back to back would be silly....) or Bertram's  mystery?

Are the Cha's gone this week or not till next?

I'm confused!


Ah, so the Peach is joining the GMan.  More support for Elimination No. 8! in Macao
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 10:25:10 AM
If this is not the TBC leg, when will it be? Will there even BE one?
Th BQ's said they would race as if they were in last place, so does that mean the DIDN'T get in last place????
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 10:29:57 AM
I'm with Michael
BQ's make a deal with E/Dee to yield the Cha's and step aside or lag behind E/Dee to let them hit the mat first.
1st place E/Dee
2nd BQ's
3rd C/M
last Cha's and marked with a penalty

Maybe just maybe for the first time in TAR history 2 teams ( Cha's & C/M ) step onto the mat in last place at the same time with Phil making it a NEL? and that is C/M's offer to the Cha's? I Dunno?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 10:31:02 AM
So some of you think this is the BQ's in Guam? Where is the Cha's confessional then?
I think its some weird NEL in Macau, something we have to "The reason – you'll find out when you watch all 13 episodes" BVM
Guam, temps in the 80's on Dec 15th ...Cha's in tanktops & shorts ( and I've looked at every Cha Mat chat /insider clip and nothing match's this scene )


Errrrrr, I'm just throwing something up against the wall and seeing what sticks!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 18, 2007, 10:43:18 AM
If this is not the TBC leg, when will it be? Will there even BE one?
Th BQ's said they would race as if they were in last place, so does that mean the DIDN'T get in last place????

My take for the next three shows:

Apr. 22 - Leg 11 Macao - Chas last and are Eliminated as F4; BQ's win leg.

Apr. 29 - Leg 12 Guam - C/M come in last but it is a NEL.

May 6 -  Leg 13 Hawaii - San Francisco - First by a boob Eric and Danielle

                                                        Second Beauty Queens

                                                        Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 10:49:06 AM
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Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.
I don't agree with there being a penalty in the very last leg Gman :grins: ..can you imagine the teams running up to the final mat first or whatever and all the teams clapping and cheering only to hear that that team has to step aside and wait out the 30 minute penalty :lol: ?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 10:58:08 AM
If this is not the TBC leg, when will it be? Will there even BE one?
Th BQ's said they would race as if they were in last place, so does that mean the DIDN'T get in last place????

My take for the next three shows:

Apr. 22 - Leg 11 Macao - Chas last and are Eliminated as F4; BQ's win leg.

Apr. 29 - Leg 12 Guam - C/M come in last but it is a NEL.

May 6 -  Leg 13 Hawaii - San Francisco - First by a boob Eric and Danielle

                                                        Second Beauty Queens

                                                        Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.

First by a boob Eric and Danielle  :lol3: :lol3:

Perhaps a NEL in Macau makes up for the elimination in Malaysia. It was discussed back in the episode thread that Malaysia should have been a NEL but since U/J were so far behind and they knew there would be no way for them to make it up, they switched and did an elimination.

So I'll make a similar prediction with a few adjustments.

Apr. 22 - Leg 11 Macao - Chas last and are marked for elimination

Apr. 29 - Leg 12 Guam - Chas last and are eliminated

May 6 -  Leg 13 Guam - Hawaii - San Francisco - First by a boob Eric and Danielle, Second Beauty Queens, Third Charla and Mirna

Disclaimer: These picks are subject to change as new information is revealed.  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 10:59:50 AM
Yeah, I don't see there being a penalty Either.

The way I see the next legs are:

Apr. 22 - Leg 11 Macao - D/O last, NEL

Apr. 29 - Leg 12 Guam - D/O eliminated

May 6 -  Leg 13 Hawaii - San Francisco - 4 continents, ??? MILES, Dustin and Kandice, YOU are the offical winners....but since I hate Michael I'll make you step aside and wait for E/D to check in!  :groan:

I'm excited to see this episode. If Jill from JVJ was right then the surprise yield was a very smart move and it's going to be good.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 11:00:29 AM
Sups comes to the dark side :D!!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 11:19:56 AM
Sups comes to the dark side :D!!
:vader:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 11:28:02 AM
Sups comes to the dark side :D!!
:vader:

 :touche: My scenario... :lol:
Clues:
* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.
E/Dee yield D/O
* It's a comedy of errors for one team when they struggle to operate a local car and drive it over the curb.
Charla/Mirna
* Charla & Mirna make a generous offer to Oswald & Danny.
??

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/17Apr0028.jpg) Yield Ahead! Oh No!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/17Apr0033.jpg)   hmmm I have an idea..

 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/17Apr0029.jpg)   BQ's: what if we run the race like we are in last place and let you step on the mat first if you don't Yield us when we get to the cluebox? Instead Yield the line-cutters Danny & Oswald?
Eric/Dee: OK, Nice doing business with you
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00144-17-2007.jpg) Please??
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/17Apr0031.jpg) Mirna: What happened? did you get yielded?
 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/17Apr0030.jpg)  Yup
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 11:30:27 AM
I love your scenario puddin! The fact that D/K and E/D, quite possibly the most uliked teams left, work together kind of makes me happy
the shot of D/K going "caution yield ahead...nooo!" looks really early in the morning...maybe this week we might actually get PHIL'S PREVIEW!...maybe tonight!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 12:02:25 PM
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Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.
I don't agree with there being a penalty in the very last leg Gman :grins: ..can you imagine the teams running up to the final mat first or whatever and all the teams clapping and cheering only to hear that that team has to step aside and wait out the 30 minute penalty :lol: ?

Puddin's right! they wouldnt make a team wait on the finish line! That would be so embarassing! Maybe guam has the TBC leg, and so it will be the first TBC with only three teams! Im so clueless about what is going to happen!!!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 12:10:13 PM
The Yield thing is still buggin me. How can D/O be behind the other teams? I can see it if the detour comes first and the "little drummer boy" option is a bad choice BUT they get the "caution yield ahead" clue at the Macau ferry terminal. If all tasks are in Macau that clue is the first one they get, right??? That would lead them to the towers for the roadblock. You think D/O took a slow boat to China?  :lol:

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 12:11:58 PM
THis reallly describes what Charla is doing! Is this the roadblock? You can find the website of where I got this on the firstpage, a post by georgia peach. Thanks Peach!

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 18, 2007, 12:13:03 PM
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Puddin's right! they wouldnt make a team wait on the finish line! That would be so embarassing! Maybe guam has the TBC leg, and so it will be the first TBC with only three teams! Im so clueless about what is going to happen!!!

I agree with puddin as well and I agree with you on the TBC. It may be a new twist to spread the finale over two weeks instead of a "standard" 2-hour finale. btw, I am also clueless so this is sheer speculation.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 18, 2007, 12:22:35 PM
THis reallly describes what Charla is doing! Is this the roadblock? You can find the website of where I got this on the firstpage, a post by georgia peach. Thanks Peach!

It's a roadblock. On pg 9 in this thread.

Press Release!!

TEAMS BATTLE THEIR FEAR OF HEIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO JUMP OFF ONE OF THE WORLD'S TALLEST FREE-STANDING STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR NEXT CLUE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS," APRIL 22 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
       "Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams come face-to-face with their fear of heights during a harrowing Roadblock that finds the Racers plunging over 600 feet in the highest "descender" jump in the history of the Race, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, April 22 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
 
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 12:28:51 PM
THis reallly describes what Charla is doing! Is this the roadblock? You can find the website of where I got this on the firstpage, a post by georgia peach. Thanks Peach!

 You are welcome! But Slowhatch found the tower for us.

But check upstream  here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184542.html#msg184542)and  here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184550.html#msg184550) because we now know they do at least two of those scary tasks.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 12:34:18 PM
THis reallly describes what Charla is doing! Is this the roadblock? You can find the website of where I got this on the firstpage, a post by georgia peach. Thanks Peach!

 You are welcome! But Slowhatch found the tower for us.

But check upstream  here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184542.html#msg184542)and  here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184550.html#msg184550) because we now know they do at least two of those scary tasks.

So according to de site they are either doing the skywalk, or the  skyjump or even BOTH! We can see by the preview and pics that Charla is running in the place where there are no rails sothat might be the skywalk. And also, according to the pics we got Charla is hanging with a harness that does not seem like it is a bungy jump harness... so it might be the skyjump...



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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 12:41:41 PM
Just found new pic! Charla is definitely doind the skyjump, she even has the same clothes as the guy on the pic! Well, it is the same pic that Peach posted before, but just in better resolution and clearer



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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 12:54:05 PM
Don't you hate coming to the party late? :lol:

All was fully discussed on page 8!

But don't worry--I was really excited to finally see some DRAMA! too.... ;)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Riomangatar on April 18, 2007, 01:16:01 PM
Don't you hate coming to the party late? :lol:

All was fully discussed on page 8!

But don't worry--I was really excited to finally see some DRAMA! too.... ;)
m sorry..

IM new to RFF and i am not used to keeping up with alll the reading and stuff... Im not as experienced as you guys. I thought i had made good work but u guys let me down... Ohhhh wellllll...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 01:28:16 PM
It IS hard to keep up around here--there is lots to read! (I get confused all the time--ask anybody! :lol:)

We are very glad you are here anyway! And your picture is much nicer than mine! :kissy:

So keep on chiming in--we won't push you off the edge!

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 01:34:22 PM
The problem is that this thread is 13 pages long and if you don't start with page 1 its easy to be confused :D.
I don't have time now but if someone can sum up what we think we know I'll insert the pictures later and sticky it to page one or something.

 :hides :please:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 01:37:24 PM
Working on it as we speak!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 01:42:46 PM
YAY, thanks peach!

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 01:53:39 PM
 :yess: peach..

The Yield thing is still buggin me. How can D/O be behind the other teams? I can see it if the detour comes first and the "little drummer boy" option is a bad choice BUT they get the "caution yield ahead" clue at the Macau ferry terminal. If all tasks are in Macau that clue is the first one they get, right??? That would lead them to the towers for the roadblock. You think D/O took a slow boat to China?  :lol:
still trying to figure that out  :lol:


How about this, I think it was Michael that brought it up? TPTB made a point of showing us this right?
We were shown O/D using their last 20$ to pay the toll.
We were shown Eric refusing to pay his last 20$ to pay a cab to directions to the Jockey Club

What if the race starts with 1$? Lets assume its a 12 hour pitstop..
The Turbo-Jet ferry costs 20$ (http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Macau/blog-115124.html)
D/O although out in the lead have no way of paying for the ferry. They can't beg for $$ but can only ask someone to buy them their tickets( is that right?)
Next out the BQ's
Next out C/M
Next out E/Dee

Teams hit Turbo Ferry HoursOfOperation  (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/turbojet_sailing_rev.htm)
mswood writes, her excellent time-line  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11984.0.html) : There is probably close to a two hour gap between Oswald & Danny and Dustin & Kandice, and a similar gap between Dustin & Kandice and Charla & Mirna.  I would guess about another separates Eric & Danielle.

O/D no funds to get on the ferry.
C/M's generous offer to O/D money?
Anyway, perhaps E/Dee finally get a lucky break and are on board the first ferry along with D/K.
Clue Yield ahead!  D/K fear E/D will beat them to the Yield cluebox ( have mentioned how atheltic they are ) so strike a deal to Yield one of the behind teams? plus D/K have already used the Yield so perhaps wait for E/Dee to catch up to them to negotiate the yield and how to use it?

lots of flaws in my theory but I have to be some where asap and am still half in my PJ's so later  :waves:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 01:56:38 PM
 :welcome2: Riomangatar!!
I certainly didn't mean to offend you or disscourage you from doing more detective work. Everyone was a newbie at one time. It's just when I see a new post I get all happy inside thinking something new has been discovered and I was disappointed to see old news. After an initial catchup it will be very easy to keep up --- cause it's addicting!!!!  :lol:

Since you are a BQ fan you'll find a true friend in Michael.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 02:12:12 PM
Hey, fans of any team can befriend me! I'm a nice guy!  :yess:

Welcome Riomangatar
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 02:27:39 PM
AARRRGGGH! Finished the whole thing complete with thirty thousand links (you know me) and my post got eaten and is now happily floating in cyberspace somewhere. So don't hold your breath--back in 2 hours! :'(

 :crybabe:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 02:29:36 PM
AARRRGGGH! Finished the whole thing complete with thirty thousand links (you know me) and my post got eaten and is now happily floating in cyberspace somewhere. So don't hold your breath--back in 2 hours! :'(

 :crybabe:
History? back space? something? oh dear  :(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 02:30:19 PM
 :'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 02:31:35 PM
It is gone :'( :'( :'(

But I'm doing it again--who needs a life?! :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 02:52:48 PM
:'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:

That looks like a great possibility for the pit stop. That is "IF" this isn't a TBC  ;D :lol: :rotf:

Aww peach that sucks so bad.  (:;)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 03:06:17 PM
:js:  The "wavy" street decorations are not too common in Macau (as far as I can see from GE).  It occurs in a few places.  Kinda matches the cobblestone decorations that C/M are standing on.  Can't pin it down just yet, but Macau isn't that big.   ;)

When I saw this picture I giggled thinking I could just hear Charla singing ........

Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the yellow brick road.
Follow follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road.
Follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick road.
We're off to see the Philster the wonderful Philster of allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm bored. :lol: Now you know you were singing along.  :rotf:

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 03:16:02 PM
:js:  The "wavy" street decorations are not too common in Macau (as far as I can see from GE).  It occurs in a few places.  Kinda matches the cobblestone decorations that C/M are standing on.  Can't pin it down just yet, but Macau isn't that big.   ;)

When I saw this picture I giggled thinking I could just hear Charla singing ........

Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the yellow brick road.
Follow follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road.
Follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick, follow the yellow brick road.
We're off to see the Philster the wonderful Philster of allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm bored. :lol: Now you know you were singing along.  :rotf:
Now my stomach hurts  :spitcoffee:  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
:'( Alright Peach!

Damn, I wish I knew how to get inside some of the buildings around the garden so I could see if this is where the maybe pit stop might be!

There's something called Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall), but I can't find any photos of the outside, or the inside!  :groan:

A wealthy merchant, Lou Kau, built it. His son Lou Lim lok inherited the garden from him in 1906. The family fortunes declined and in 1938 some houses in this garden were sold and converted into a school, which still stands today. In the 1970's, the government took over the park, renovated it, and opened it to be enjoyed by the public.

Surrounded by high walls, this garden is a landscape with narrow paths winding through groves of bamboo and flowering bushes. A small pond is at the center of this garden, straddled by an elegant nine-turn bridge leading to a large pavilion built in the pseudo-Victorian style of the Qing dynasty. Visitors standing on the verandah can see a rock, which is said to look like Kun Iam, Goddess of Mercy. There are frequent art and craft exhibitions in the pavilion, which is also a recital hall during the annual International Music Festival.

Qingcao Hall (Green Grass Hall) is the garden's most famous structure. The exterior is in traditional Chinese style, but the interior decorations are typical western. The outer wall is painted in beige, a color with Portuguese flair, while the corridor pillars are of unique Gothic style. On Sun Yat-sen's 1915 second visit to Macau, he stayed in this hall and gave audience to Macau's rich and famous.

This unique garden, in 1992 was named as one of the "Eight Scenes in Macau".

http://www.uvista.com/en/macau/lou-lim-lok-garden.htm

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 03:23:42 PM
ahh that's the only thing I could find as well puddin!  :groan: Well, I gave up searching, but I was searching at school and half the sites I clicked were blocked by the administrator, so I could have missed something. I think the confessional looks like a hotel room.

I hope they send out Phil's preview this week  :knuckles:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 03:33:43 PM
I'm fairly certain that this is Lou Lim Ieoc Garden on GE.



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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 18, 2007, 03:34:42 PM
Don't you hate coming to the party late? :lol:

All was fully discussed on page 8!

But don't worry--I was really excited to finally see some DRAMA! too.... ;)
m sorry..

IM new to RFF and i am not used to keeping up with alll the reading and stuff... Im not as experienced as you guys. I thought i had made good work but u guys let me down... Ohhhh wellllll...
Lol yea I don't always read everything or am EVER able to find spoiler pics-- I just don't have any time. But I am a BQ fan too! lol and Puddin I totally agree with your scenario.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gator27 on April 18, 2007, 04:01:34 PM
I think the confessional looks like a hotel room.

My first thought when I saw the BQ's confessional was "I've seen that hotel room before".  I was thinking Mirna had a confessional from a similar looking hotel in one of the South American legs (real specific I know). :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 04:05:08 PM
I know what you are talking about, and I remember Charla is wearing the exact same shirt!

Oh, close, but I don't think it's a match...you can see the SA sceneary in the BG

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1087773
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gator27 on April 18, 2007, 04:13:36 PM
I know what you are talking about, and I remember Charla is wearing the exact same shirt!

Oh, close, but I don't think it's a match...you can see the SA sceneary in the BG

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1087773

I think that WAS the room.  Thanks D.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 04:45:44 PM
We'll try this again...

This is my take on what we know/don't know so far about this week.
Frank speculation is in red. Blue is where I hope puddin will attach a pretty pic. :lol:

Preview 1 and 2 here .
(http://images.gofish.com/cache/membervideo/73/03/6b/54/1100495-113x85.jpg?key=http%3A%2F%2Fupload1%2Fmedia%2F11%2F30%2F_113081%2F26-113081_30-1100495_newtarep10_avi.jpg&category=membervideo) (http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1100495) (http://images.gofish.com/cache/membervideo/fa/59/c6/39/1100407-113x85.jpg?key=http%3A%2F%2Fupload1%2Fmedia%2F11%2F30%2F_113081%2F26-113081_30-1100407_ep11promo_avi.jpg&category=membervideo) (http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1100407)

The big debate seems to whether this is a TBC or a not TBC...
And I'm happy to report that we all seem in perfect agreement that it is either a TBC or....a NEL.....or an Elim....or a BVM surprise! :happy:

If the BQ confessional  is from a future episode as seems likely, then that removes my only objection to this being a TBC.
And if the Cha's confessional is in Guam as seems likely, then there are no confessionals for this episode which makes a TBC even more possible.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00164-17-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_chasconf.jpg)

Teams depart the Hong Kong Jockey Club on Dec 13th after a 12 hour pitstop, leaving possibly between about 3-7 AM?? (see mswood's Timeline here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11984.msg184368.html#msg184368))

They are directed to go to Macau (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11464.msg183316.html#msg183316), a former Portuguese territory.

They go to the Hong-Kong to Macau TurboJet (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/index.htm) ferry terminal  at Sheung wan. (Boingo's nice GE map (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184517.html#msg184517) here?)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00304-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00454-17-2007.jpg)
Ferries depart at 0130, 0200, 0400, 0445, 0600, 0700, 0730, 0800 and then every 15 minutes until 1800, and take approximately 55 minutes. It costs HK$138 (=$17.68) after 0700 and HK$172 (=$22) before 0700 (Hmmm....maybe this is where O/D lose their lead?).

(We know what the two Detours and the Roadblock are, we know they rent a kiddie car, we know they go to Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens. We don't know which order things occur in for sure, and we don't know that the Garden is for sure the site of the Pitstop/TBC Mat stop--so take the rest with a little salt.)

The teams find their cluebox at the Ferry Terminal in Macau and choose between two Detours, each with their own pros and cons. (Don't you miss that?*sigh*)


At some point, teams collect their own kiddie bumper car  and drive themselves to their tasks. I think that is now and may provide a little H of Op. Ch/M take the bumper car part a little too literally, which may explain how they fall behind.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00354-17-2007.jpg)
Row it or Roll it? (titles mine)

O/D choose Row it and fetch and carry a ceremonial drum   along the waterfront near Neobie's Macao-Taipei Bridge (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184501.html#msg184501) to a Macau Dragon Boat (http://www.c-c-c.org/chineseculture/festival/dragonboat/dragon.html) where they row to I don't know where.
This task in hindsight proves to lead to a costly time delay.
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The other teams all choose Roll it and proceed to Hakushu8's bamboo pole Noodle workshop (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184578.html#msg184578), where they roll out  handmade noodles. And we won't even go there about riding that pole (http://chaxiubao.typepad.com/chaxiubao/2006/12/bamboo_pasta.html)!
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00334-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00564-17-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_00124-17-2007.jpg)
Timeshots  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184574.html#msg184574) during this task put Eric there about 5:30 and Ch/M there about 7:05 (AM presumed). (To be further determined)


Teams eventually drive themselves  to the Roadblock, which occurs at Slowhatch's
 Macau Tower  (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0021.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0025.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0007.jpg)
(Order of arrival, conversations, deals etc. are educated speculation--you have been warned! :lol:)

The Roadblock, which one member of each team performs, is the Skywalk and the SkyJump and who knows maybe they throw in the Bungy and the Mast Climb too! (I'm so glad to finally see an AllStar worthy task that I would keep them up there all day!)

We see Charla performing this task for her team.

Now, it appears that E/D and the BQ's arrive at the tower  (BQ's first?) close to each other, where they find a Yield. Since E/D need to arrive at the Mat first, I believe that the BQ's negotiate with E/D to NOT Yield them, but rather a team further behind (O/D) in exchange for allowing E/D to reach the mat in first place. Is this why we see Dustin praying? They would be relying on E/D's honor to not yield them after all.

(And while this may be a wise move by the BQ's at this moment, I think you can say that this moment is also where they lose the race to E/D.  :o)
Now WHY O WHY do they choose O/D instead of Ch/M??   :'( You must decide....
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0033.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/th_17Apr0029.jpg)
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Ch/M being a later arrival to the tower (too much time gambling in the Casinos :lol:), make a generous offer of some of their homemade noodles to O/D (really maybe $$)...

All teams then drive themselves in the bumper cars to schwartzmoor's Lou Lim Ieoc Garden (http://www3.icm.gov.mo/gate/gb/www.macauheritage.net/tour/ChPointE.asp?N=15&R=A) where Dee takes a nosedive. This is the Pit-Matstop for the race.
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Order of arrival:

E/D who escape the marked for elimination penalty.
BQ's second
Ch/M third
O/D sadly last and are either marked for elim, elim, or surprised by BVM depending on your POV.

All teams may be TBC'd and keep on racing to Guam.......or not?

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 04:53:34 PM
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 04:58:22 PM
Well--this is just a start--feel free to chime in as the week provides new info and either puddin or I can edit it....

mswood--HOW do you do this every week?? I'm in awe! I'm a wreck just doing the "what we know by Wednesday" stuff!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 05:49:22 PM
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Timeshots  during this task put Eric there about 5:30 and Ch/M there about 7:05 (AM presumed).

Would it really be that bright at 5 30 in the morning in December?

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(And while this may be a wise move by the BQ's at this moment, I think you can say that this moment is also where they lose the race to E/D.  )

Pft. We shall see about that!

Peach and Puddin, THANK YOU for putting that together, it really summarizes everything we've talked about and will make it easier to look up what we need. You guys both rock, a lot!  :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 05:55:49 PM
Ooh, pretty puddin!

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 18, 2007, 06:12:52 PM
AWESOME!!!! You guys should do this every week!!!
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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 18, 2007, 06:13:59 PM
Ha. This is my 100th post!!!!! :wohoo: lol
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 06:28:27 PM
You know, we haven't mentioned this guy--wonder if they'll be rick-shawing around somewhere?

Congrats to $hopaholic!
 :cheer: :conf: :cheer:

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 18, 2007, 06:32:22 PM
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.



 :hides Not to start anything but a quick look at clothing shows that M/C first wore those clothes in Episode 7. The preview makes it look like the confessional was right after Romber left but it wasn't. It appears the BQ's are wearing the same light blue jackets in Episode 7. A cowinkedink???  ;D I don't know. I don't have time now to dig out and compare the pictures but it just may be worth looking into.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 06:34:12 PM
D/K didn't wear the black shirts in episode 7, and I think in the BG of the C/M shot you can tell that it's South America.
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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 06:34:55 PM
^^ Why would Dustin be saying "we're going to race like were in last place" in EP7  ;D
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 06:40:26 PM
You know, we haven't mentioned this guy--wonder if they'll be rick-shawing around somewhere?
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Peach, I was thinking about that shot as well! We need to add that into the time line somewhere  :groan:
...common Phil's preview...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: asamber1 on April 18, 2007, 06:51:33 PM
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.



Yes i think Danielle and Eric having a deal [though seems likly] is stupis and makes them look like hypocrites.  The said how the Blondes were phoney and now they are doing the same thing to one of two teams they have a finale three agreement with.  First off we knew the Blondes have to be second the the Yield becuase they cant, so if Eric and Danielle yield the blondes they would still come in first and give the biggest threat a great chance to be eliminated.   If Eric and Danielle dont yield the blondes they just look stupid, they wont get their revenge will give up a better chance at first place, and will still have big competition on the race.  I mean there is no telling what happens later in the leg.  The Blondes and Derik might make a deal but say Deric gets lost with a cab?  That half hour advantage would help them more?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 06:57:58 PM
I was out shopping and got sidetracked..

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 07:31:39 PM
I just checked on the little cars with Avis....

It is called a Cub 4 pack--we can have one for 3 days for a $198 :lol:

And locations for pickup are only two--who can map this so we can see which is closer to the ferry?

Nevermind--one of the locations is right at the ferry!

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 07:42:48 PM
I was just at the Mandarin Hotel (http://www.mandarinoriental.com/macau/) and its very close to the Ferry's.

Did I say thank you peach? :thankyou:


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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 07:53:51 PM
Did I say thank you peach?  :thankyou:

No thank you for the pretty pics!

I just pulled together everybody else's hard work--please forgive me if I forgot to mention you!
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 18, 2007, 08:00:37 PM
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Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.
I don't agree with there being a penalty in the very last leg Gman :grins: ..can you imagine the teams running up to the final mat first or whatever and all the teams clapping and cheering only to hear that that team has to step aside and wait out the 30 minute penalty :lol: ?

There is no penalty placed on you if YOU COME IN FIRST.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 08:08:32 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23791;image)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/michael_dimech15/hotelroommatch.png) This is a shot from the Mandarin hotel..It *kind of* looks like a match? I mean, sometimes the hotel rooms vary, but the general design could match maybe.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 18, 2007, 08:14:14 PM
Just want to thank peach for the lovely summary of possible timeline this episode. :hugs:

Oh, but how far is the Mandarin Hotel from Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens though?
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
Michael beat me to it!
I was going to post that one and this one as Macau generic curtains...

Of course, the Oriental would be one of the most expensive hotels they could choose...

And if they are in a Macau hotel--it isn't a TBC....


Thanks hakushu8--I stole lots of your stuff! :-[

From MAPS! here is an   interactive street map  (http://www.macautourism.gov.mo/en/discovering/map.php) --choose English

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 08:20:18 PM
Yay! I finally beat somebody to something! My computer has been going so slow lately...I think it's time to wip out my laptop that I bought a couple of months ago and sadly never used it  :'(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 18, 2007, 09:08:10 PM
Peach - Awesome post. Thanks for summarizing things.

I still think the shot of the BQs is from the end of Macau...and I'm still not 100% about what the deal might be. Why would Eric accept that BQ deal, that would make them seem kind of pathetic, because they would be worried to losing to "two queens" who have to wait 30 minutes! It's all very strange.



Yes i think Danielle and Eric having a deal [though seems likly] is stupis and makes them look like hypocrites.  The said how the Blondes were phoney and now they are doing the same thing to one of two teams they have a finale three agreement with.  First off we knew the Blondes have to be second the the Yield becuase they cant, so if Eric and Danielle yield the blondes they would still come in first and give the biggest threat a great chance to be eliminated.   If Eric and Danielle dont yield the blondes they just look stupid, they wont get their revenge will give up a better chance at first place, and will still have big competition on the race.  I mean there is no telling what happens later in the leg.  The Blondes and Derik might make a deal but say Deric gets lost with a cab?  That half hour advantage would help them more?

Well yielding the BQ's isn't that logical if they are near the front of the pack (and if its early in the leg), almost always teams recover from it (well all but one and that was only at the before the last event). 

As to why yield say Oswald & Danny oer Dustin & Kandice.

Thats incredible easy.

When you Yield the two best possible uses for the Yield is, to Yield the team in alst place to give yourself the largest possible cushion to avoid elimination.

The next best possible use of the Yield is to Yield the team with the best record so far on the race.  And that is easily Oswald & Danny.

For leg 10 out fo the regular seasons of two person teams they have an average Pit Stop performance of 2.50 (only three teams have ever had a better record at this point Eric & Jeremy, Colin & Christie and Kris & Jon). 

In comparison Dustin & Kandice are placed with a 3.40 with 19 teams that have a better average (Oswald & Danny are averaging nearly a position better each leg).

And while I can break down the legs as a viewer and say that the Beauty Queens are probably running a better race, Eric & Danielle don't gett to see that, they basically just get to find out who leaves in each position, and has no real idea how teams manage hte various tasks, how they navigate, ect unless the other teams tell them are when they are close and get to see them race.

If say those two teams (Eric & Danille and Dustin & Kandice are very close together approaching the YIeld and are fairly sure that they are ahead of Oswald & Danny and Charla & Mirna.  I could see Dustin & Kandice make that offer.

And I Can see Eric & Danielle take it, especially knowing that if they are close that they may not be able to get to the Yield before them, and miss the chance to Yield the BQ.

And as for all the comments about being shady and such directed to the BQ's for the Yield, that was for them lying or lisleading teams.   Also during the wait Eric didn't understand why them, since they have a worse record then Oswald & Danny.  Go for the last team or the strong team thats the best use of the yield, they had no idea that D&K have commented that they fear them more due to their physical strength as a team.

And while Eric did make a verbal deal with Mirna, right after that he got screed by them by using Oswald and Danny's booking to skip ahead of them.  So he might feel screw them.  Nor do we see if Eric or Danielle make a deal with Oswald & Danny.

Of course, this all assumes thats what happens.  Hell it could all be something else.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 18, 2007, 09:10:33 PM
I can't use my laptop, too, Michael. I poured o.j. on the keyboard. I need to have it fixed in the US Mainland. :groan:

Anyways, I'm thinking of another scenario on how this leg could be a TBC. Think back (unfortunately) to the TAR 8 finale. In the first hour, remember how they had to search for one of three departure times from Parc Olympique? What if something of the like was done here too, wherein they had to search (what we're thinking to be the pitstop) Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens for departure times (most likely, airplane tickets) to Guam via Hong Kong.

Following this info that apskip posted before:

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Teams should take the hydrofoil back to Hong Kong since the International Airport has superior flights to everywhere.
Flight options start at 1010 with JAL730 to NRT 1010 to 1500, then CO007 NRT to GUM 1715 to 1950 and end with the most direct routing of CEBU AIR 119 to MNL 1940 to 2140, then CO934 MNL to GUM 2310 to 0440. There are about 10 other combinations in between.

It seems like the majority of the flights from HK to GU are in the morning. So maybe:
* Teams reach Lou Lim Ieoc Gardens from the afternoon 'till the night, searching for the tickets.
* No pit stop, instead the teams were instructed (is this possible?) by the production team to stay in Macau until the morning.
*** This scenario could still allow the Dustin/Kandice comment in Mandarin Hotel (?) because that team (or maybe everyone) decided to stay their for the night. And I think they could do a pseudo-pitstop interview... right?
* In the morning, teams ride the hydrofoil from Macau to HK. Then they go to the airport.
*** Assuming teams go directly to AAFB, Charla/Mirna got the first and only flight out of HK, and that's why they have that huge lead, like in Batu Caves (from chevy's post). The other three teams are in second flight.
*** OR Charla/Mirna and Eric/Danielle get first two tickets, but Eric/Danielle got lost when they were driving up to AAFB from the airport. Can't imagine how this is possible. Or maybe customs had to quarantine Eric/Danielle for a bit, because of what they were bringing from HK (Danielle's implants, perhaps? :lol3:).

So there. Feel free to point and laugh. :happy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 18, 2007, 09:47:26 PM
Peach with Oswald and Danny just getting suited up for the Fast Forward at 2pm.  I would guess they check in at the Pit Stop between 2:45pm and 3:15pm.

So I think Dustin & Kandice should be much closer to an hour behind them, I still think at least.

With the Sunset being very near 5:40pm, I imagine the Dustin & Kandice checked in around 4pm to 4:30 pm.  With no real shadows or sun to judge angel, it still looks fairly well lite with cloud cover.

With Charla & Mirna who do the boat task after the sun has fully set, so I would guess they arrive at 6:30-7:00pm.

Eric & Danielle I would guess by the even darker stages of their progress between 7:30-8:30pm.

With a sunrise of 6:55 am for the next day (give or take a minhute or so.)

So most of the teams should be leaving the Pit Stop in the dark.

So I would have to assume that Hours of operation ome into play before any event.  ANd since we don't see the teams bunched as a group of 4 anywhere, but it does kind of look like purhaps at the Yield area that we have two groups of two teams, that means the detour is probably first for the day. 

Unless all l teams get bunched at the tower (like season 10's yiled) and somehow Eric & Danielle just get to it faster (like Tyler & James did who were third in line but easily first to the yield.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 09:49:58 PM
if you watch D/K mat chat with Phil you see the sun begins to go down as he is talking with them...it gets noticeably darker towards the end of the conversation.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 18, 2007, 09:54:16 PM
Michael

Edited.  Sorry Michael I was thinking of the week before's side chats.

Yeah witht he Sun easily going down in those shots, Change BQ's to sometime after 5:20-5:30pm.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 10:27:06 PM
We are missing something.

With those times, there is no way that E/D are rolling out noodles at 0530.

IF (big if) his watch is correctly set to local time, then it has to be 1730.

So what the heck are they doing all day?

Roadblock first with HofOp? Then they wouldn't be first to the tower but likely last.

Help!

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Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 10:32:02 PM
I'm still wondering why the hell we have shots of Charla doing BOTH the sky walk AND the sky jump! I wonder if we are going to have a "both team members must do this to get the next clue" task in this episode.

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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 10:53:59 PM
OMG You rock my world mswood! Well said  :hearts: ..I don't care if you were waiting upstairs in line, you don't break into another line and say that you had been waiting upstairs in line. So in my eyes if E/D think their best option is to work with the BQ's and Yield the Cha's so be it :hand:. All that matters is the end result.

Astronomy for December 13, 2006: (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/VMMC/2006/12/13/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
  Rise: 6:55 AM CST
  Set: 5:43 PM CST

it's still light out ..

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 10:58:24 PM
Do racers usually adjust their clock to fit in with every country they visit. Maybe Erics clock is still set on American time?
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 18, 2007, 11:19:40 PM
Eric's watch looks like 2:05 to me. 
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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 11:35:59 PM
Chateau comes on and the board lights up  :hearts:

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Last but not least - Carla and Mirna - they actually just lost out to E/D but because of a  30 minute penalty end up last as the BQ's sneak by.
I don't agree with there being a penalty in the very last leg Gman :grins: ..can you imagine the teams running up to the final mat first or whatever and all the teams clapping and cheering only to hear that that team has to step aside and wait out the 30 minute penalty :lol: ?

There is no penalty placed on you if YOU COME IN FIRST.
  :lol: OK you win that point! But I'm not giving in untill I see a marked with penalty in the final leg with my own 2 eyes  :crazy
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 11:39:58 PM
Okay--it is his left arm and the watch has to be turned so he can see it.

After twisting my arm and my laptop to match :lol: I'm changing my guess to 8 or 9:40.

Chateau--could you look again please? I can't see 2:O5 although that certainly would fit the best. Could I have a picture please? ???

Here is the clock on the wall during the C/M noodle task. 7? 12:30?

Teams need 55 minutes on the ferry plus time before and after to get there. Maybe 2-3 hours after they leave? and they may have to get the car too...

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 18, 2007, 11:43:22 PM
It gets better ...

Applying cosine correction ...
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 11:44:07 PM
 :yess: :happy: :hearts:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 11:47:03 PM
Also Chateau--do you have your timeline "corrected" for as the teams cross the International Dateline?

Corrected for our time vs their time (HK and GUAM??)

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Post by: puddin on April 18, 2007, 11:55:21 PM
see if this works..

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Post by: michael on April 18, 2007, 11:55:57 PM
see if this works..

That looks like 1 something...(almost 2)
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2007, 11:57:03 PM
Another one--this is of Kandice's arm at the ferry terminal as they get the clue. Note watch on the right arm...

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:00:19 AM
Tick-tock!

10??

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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:01:25 AM
Michael noted that image is flipped



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Post by: mswood on April 19, 2007, 12:01:38 AM
OMG You rock my world mswood! Well said  :hearts: ..I don't care if you were waiting upstairs in line, you don't break into another line and say that you had been waiting upstairs in line. So in my eyes if E/D think their best option is to work with the BQ's and Yield the Cha's so be it :hand:. All that matters is the end result.

Astronomy for December 13, 2006: (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/VMMC/2006/12/13/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
  Rise: 6:55 AM CST
  Set: 5:43 PM CST

it's still light out ..

Another thing at the airport, is that while they didn't appear to upset that Charla & Mirna and Oswald and DAnny got tickets in the office (or bookings), after all he did as well a couple legs ago.

Its when on the next flight, where Charla & Mirna never put on the waiting list (the whole scene with them and the BQ's where Eric & Danielle were gone for a lot of trying to exchange funds), and use Oswlad's & Danny's booking number to try and bypass both other players.

When it happens D&K manage to force the agent to keep them since their name is first, and C&M aren't the names on the bbooking.  But they do get 2cd before Eric & Danielle arrive.  The BQ's grab Eric's arm pulls him in and tells them how that should have been them.

So that definetly builds bonus points for the BQ's in his eyes, and probably makes him think a litte less of both Charla & Mirna and Oswald & Danny.

In fact Charla & Mirna are know becoming Bama in BQ's eyes.  A team that you dislike enough that you will go after them instead of a better team (like how they were willing to try and  help Tyler & James over Bama, and there was no contest on who was the bigger threat to them).  I think if Eric & Danielle would have stayed there, that D&K would have made a big enough scene to make sure they got on as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if either of them got Yielded.
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Post by: mswood on April 19, 2007, 12:07:57 AM
Where is a clock tower when we need one.  So Chateau can do a nice red time stamp and we all ask how he figured it out. :groan:

I think we have to assume at the very least a equilizer at some point that keeps teams rom forward progress (doing tasks ad such) to 10:00am.  Whether its restricked Ferries or Hours of Operation. 

Something that would allow a team like Eric & Danielle to leave so att he earliest a 7am get a ferry take a cab tthats at least a good hour and a half at best there.  And still allow teams to know Yield ahead and have time to both worry D&K and allow them to talk to another team and plot.  Say another 10-15 minutes atleast.
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 19, 2007, 12:14:55 AM
This shot was taken at about 2:05 pm (assumes December 13th)

There is a shadow from the window that gives the solar altitude.  Its flat measurement is 57 degrees.  I had to correct that flat angle with a cosine correction because we are not looking perpendicular to the surface it is on.  To do a cosine correction you have to estimate the how far off is your view from perfect normal.  Here it looks like about 60 degrees.  That corrects the 57 degrees to 38 degrees.

Guess what the solar altitude at 2:05 pm in Macau on December 13th was? 

37.97 deg I kid you not.

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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:16:03 AM
mswood do you think the BQ's will keep their deal with Eric & Dee? The BQ's are pretty shady  :sera:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:17:05 AM
But other than getting to the Ferry in HK there really isn't anything.

The ferry runs all night 0400,0445, 0600,0700,0730,0800 then every 15 minutes.

Kandice is at the Macau ferry terminal I think.

The other time shots do need time to get to the noodle factory and maybe get the car first.



Time maybe 9:30 ish?

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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:17:21 AM
Awesome Chateau!

puddin, in all honestly, as much as I love them I agree with the shady comment. They aren't very trustworthy so I think E/D might end up getting screwed over. If you think about it, Eric still put up the "charla bites those bitches knees" comment on his myspace, so they must have done something to piss him off again. Oh well, since E/D probably win none of it will matter to them.
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 19, 2007, 12:18:13 AM
This one looks like 12:50 to me.

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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:19:11 AM
You pretty Amazing Chateau  :hearts:  :yess:
I hate to throw stuff at you ...( my good CBS station is out of commision  :lol: )

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:24:09 AM
I'm totally trusting you about the 2:05 sine/cosine thng--but how the heck are you doing his watch so it looks like 2:05??

I've stood on my head and can't see it??

Can somebody draw me a picture before I go insane here please?? :lol: :lol:

 :crazy:

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 19, 2007, 12:29:02 AM
Quote
Chateau--could you look again please? I can't see 2:O5 although that certainly would fit the best. Could I have a picture please?
OMG Peach, I think you're right.  I was looking at it the wrong way.

Now I see 8:35.  Am I would guess.    :(

And at that time the solar altitude was only 19 deg.  I can't see agreement with that from the shadow.  Maybe ther was some extended roof line that made a steeper shadow. ????

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:30:34 AM
But that's the same shot as the 2:05 Chateautime....


Maybe his watch is stopped! :lol3: :lol: :lol3:
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:33:23 AM
I still think Kandices hand looks A LOT like the hand flipping over the yield. If it weren't for that web clue I'd say D/K got yielded, but I guess not.

Yeah, I don't think we should base to much on wrist watches. First of all they might not be working, and second of all we don't know if the racers adjusted the time for every country they are in.

 :yess: I just remembered I have no school tomorrow!
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:39:11 AM
I'm getting dizzy! :lol:

Michael--think stock footage--"exposition hands"--anybody's hands....
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:40:32 AM
 :groan:
ah! I keep forgetting about that peach! I'm trying to focus on so many things at once and it all mashes together :( it doesn't help that it's almost 2AM.
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Post by: serendipity on April 19, 2007, 04:35:13 AM
This one looks like 12:50 to me.

I agree, I also read 12:50.
I still think the detour comes later than the roadblock, because D/K open their clue and find the yield ahead at the ferry terminal, this must be the start of a leg. I don't believe there is a HOH as D/K get that clue when the sky is still dim.

And the car thing may be just a task they all need to do, not a detour choice, otherwise C/M have to switch detour again?!
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Post by: apskip on April 19, 2007, 04:41:44 AM
I still think Kandices hand looks A LOT like the hand flipping over the yield. If it weren't for that web clue I'd say D/K got yielded, but I guess not.

Yeah, I don't think we should base to much on wrist watches. First of all they might not be working, and second of all we don't know if the racers adjusted the time for every country they are in.

 :yess: I just remembered I have no school tomorrow!

MIchael D, if you are racing around the world changing your watch to each time zone you enter is a necessity. This was so even for Phineas Fogg in Around the World in 80 Days(even though he missed the International Date Line significance) and is doubly so today. The AR11 teams cannot get to airports on time to catch critical flights if they do not know the correct local time. Now, in the case of Hong Kong/Macau since it is the same as Kuala Lumpur there was no need to reset their watches.
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Post by: supsandalee on April 19, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
I think we have to assume at the very least a equilizer at some point that keeps teams rom forward progress (doing tasks ad such) to 10:00am.  Whether its restricked Ferries or Hours of Operation. 

Something that would allow a team like Eric & Danielle to leave so att he earliest a 7am get a ferry take a cab tthats at least a good hour and a half at best there.  And still allow teams to know Yield ahead and have time to both worry D&K and allow them to talk to another team and plot.  Say another 10-15 minutes atleast.

I agree. Since the ferries run all night teams should arrive at the Macau ferry terminal at different times. The clue located there directs them to the Macau Towers and states a warning that the yield is ahead.

As teams arrive at the towers they hit a hours of operation. According to the website the Skyjump doesn't open until 10 a.m. (http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_openhours.asp) although TPTB could have arranged a 9 a.m. opening. All teams arrive before opening time.

They know when the doors open that they'll have to run for the Yield and grab a number. Only one team member has to grab the number and D/K realize that they can't outrun Eric. They're pretty sure he'll make it there first so they start dealing.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 09:26:51 AM
We had this huge late night discussion last night trying to pin down the Detour times with only contradictatory evidence so far.

But for some reason I think that the getting the little cars, driving to the Noodle Shop/or Dragon Boats is the first part of the day, with the Detours the first tasks--and the Detours themselves become the equalizer. We know that Ch/M have car troubles which explains how they could turn up to the Tower later.

And the Yield is going to be a big factor this week so I think they'll want to build anticipation for that too.

It could go either way of course, but Noodles would be a big comedown after the jump--I think they'll save the best for last! Especially as SOME of us have been waiting ALL season for a real honest-to-goodness TARworthy adventure task!  :yess:

Too bad it was so cloudy/rainy that day because shadows for Chateautime are really lacking :'(.....
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Post by: supsandalee on April 19, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
I'm basing it on the following. Exhibits A & B are below  :lol:

When the BQ's open the clue telling them that there is a yield ahead they are at the Macau Ferry Terminal (confirmed by Neobie). If teams are getting a clue at the ferry it would be when they first get to Macau. Why would they send them back there later in the day?  ??? Second, the shot of E/D standing around and possibly talking to an unseen team has been identified as the Tower. If it were later in the day they would not be just standing around. They have to be waiting for it to open.

That's just my take for now. Of course I always reserve the right to change my opinion as the story unfolds.  :angel:





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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 10:10:20 AM
I always thought the Roadblock/Towers came first, I agree with you Sups  :waves:
And we don't know how long it takes to make noodles so it just maybe 3 teams are in the noodle place at the same time ...we just don't see that part. So even though it looks like C/M are ahead of E/D by the times we just don't know how long it takes or how many noodles they have to make.

Good news!! I haven't found it yet but we'll get a Phil preview today!!
Date:       4/19/2007
Title:      Amazing Race Keoghan Preview
Dateline:   Undated
Format:     SOT
Source:     CBSENTERT
Reporter:   Phil Keoghan
Want to keep up to date on the day to day comings and goings of The Amazing
Race All-Stars? Well Phil Keoghan will present a 1:00 commentary preview into
what viewers can expect on the next edition of the Amazing Race...Who is down…
Who is up...... and best of all which teams are ready to kill each other.

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 10:25:51 AM
Hurry Hurry up CBS!  :wohoo:

Especially since we didn't get one last week I'm really excited to see this one--maybe we'll find out more about the Tower challenge!

Thanks puddin! :happy: :hearts: :happy:
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 10:44:09 AM
Well I haven't figured out the code BUT found this  (http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=29910@kcnc.dayport.com)  :yess: and YES you can see the BQ's at the ROLL with C/M and you can see another work station , remember there should be 4.





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Post by: rottenchestnut on April 19, 2007, 10:48:28 AM
I'm basing it on the following. Exhibits A & B are below  :lol:

When the BQ's open the clue telling them that there is a yield ahead they are at the Macau Ferry Terminal (confirmed by Neobie). If teams are getting a clue at the ferry it would be when they first get to Macau. Why would they send them back there later in the day?  ??? Second, the shot of E/D standing around and possibly talking to an unseen team has been identified as the Tower. If it were later in the day they would not be just standing around. They have to be waiting for it to open.

That's just my take for now. Of course I always reserve the right to change my opinion as the story unfolds.  :angel:





E/D scene is still at the Ferry Terminal, I think it has been identified earlier. BQ must be taking a very early morning ferry, but I think all teams are bunching again at the Tourist Tower due to the hour of operation?  :trampb:
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 10:58:14 AM
Michael wishs he were a bamboo pole  :lol:

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well heres a few more ..hoping to get the high-res later

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 11:11:27 AM
Laughing helplessly---this episode is going to be a photochoppers delight!  :sera: OMG....

And WHERE is that clock when you need it??
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 11:16:01 AM
OMG, you bet I do puddin  :rotf:

I think the detour is first. Could the yield be before the RB? I'm beginning to think that D/K do come in first now because they are with C/M at the detour and they had that "racing like last place" confessional.

YAY phil's preview!
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 11:24:21 AM
Well I hope Eric yields the BQ's just for laughs, lol.
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 11:26:24 AM
OMG, you bet I do puddin  :rotf:

I think the detour is first. Could the yield be before the RB? I'm beginning to think that D/K do come in first now because they are with C/M at the detour and they had that "racing like last place" confessional.

YAY phil's preview!
There could have been a team there ahead of them or with them that we can't see.
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 11:28:55 AM
Well I hope Eric yields the BQ's just for laughs, lol.

UNLESS, like what peach said, the detour is an equalizer, because we see Danielle and Eric looking at something and laughing in the web promo, so maybe all three teams go to the bamboo thing...and D/O choose drums?

Wasn't the yield identified to be at Macau tower... I'm probably imagining that though.

PS:
I forgot to say, Great job on finding Phil's preview puddin!!  :hearts:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
Just to clarify:

Yield looks like Tower but not 100% definite

E/D at Ferry Terminal for sure

BQ's with clue at Ferry Terminal too

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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 11:58:37 AM
So maybe it's Ferry Terminal > yield > Roadblock > driving the cars > Detour ??? I don't know!!
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Post by: supsandalee on April 19, 2007, 11:59:30 AM
E/D scene is still at the Ferry Terminal, I think it has been identified earlier. BQ must be taking a very early morning ferry, but I think all teams are bunching again at the Tourist Tower due to the hour of operation?  :trampb:

The sidewalk was matched by puddin as the Tower in the E/D pic.
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:00:59 PM
quick take

All teams must take the ferry to Macau.
At Macau ferry they find a clue that directs them to the tower.
The tower is closed so the teams are equalzed.
Under the tower the teams know there is a Yield ahead so they make deals, whatever.
Once the tower opens all teams must find a dress/gift shop to locate their next clue, this is where the yield is.
The teams PULL tickets 1-2-3-4 , first team to pull the ticket gets the Tower/RB first.
Someone is yielded ..since the yield is inside then this can't be the Cha's waiting out a Yield because they are outside.
My take is the Roadblock comes first. Who gets to Yield who is still open for discussion.

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
Well I hope Eric yields the BQ's just for laughs, lol.

With all that build up from Phil in the preview and the whole Innertube yield discussion--it would be a miracle if E/D don't go up that Tower leaving the BQ's hoping they aren't Yielded and then BAM! they Yield them and say: "Nice doing business with you!" Especially dramatic if the BQ's step aside and LET E/D go up first. Karma, baby!

But if the Cha's don't get Yielded why are they last later on? Maybe the whole Cha's thing doesn't go bad till Guam after all...

And maybe the BQ's have a bad week...
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:03:00 PM
E/D scene is still at the Ferry Terminal, I think it has been identified earlier. BQ must be taking a very early morning ferry, but I think all teams are bunching again at the Tourist Tower due to the hour of operation?  :trampb:

The sidewalk was matched by puddin as the Tower in the E/D pic.
But later serendipity? pointed out that was the Ferry Terminal, not the tower.
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:04:28 PM


With all that build up from Phil in the preview and the whole Innertube yield discussion--it would be a miracle if E/D don't go up that Tower leaving the BQ's hoping they aren't Yielded and then BAM! they Yield them and say: "Nice doing business with you!" Especially dramatic if the BQ's step aside and LET E/D go up first. Karma, baby!

But if the Cha's don't get Yielded why are they last later on? Maybe the whole Cha's thing doesn't go bad till Guam after all...

And maybe the BQ's have a bad week...
I think the Cha's choose the wrong detour?

be back later I have to :shower:
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:08:11 PM
Peach - I think you are forgetting the web clue. I'm pretty surprised CBS would give that out as a clue because it pretty much gives away that another team gets yielded, which is quite weird.

I'm prepared for a BQ yield though. I can't lie, they'd deserve it.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:22:36 PM
Peach - I think you are forgetting the web clue. I'm pretty surprised CBS would give that out as a clue because it pretty much gives away that another team gets yielded, which is quite weird.

I'm prepared for a BQ yield though. I can't lie, they'd deserve it.

You know--I've been thinking the whole time that that web clue meant the victim of a Yield--but it only says Deal--hmmm...food for thought.
And I think the Yield is a smart game strategy--not a "dirty trick" like some think--it is just another game tool and I'd be using it for sure.

And the whole is E/D at the ferry terminal  debate was  here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184361.html#msg184361)--scroll down and you'll see that the floors match at the terminal.

And who is hiding behind our Yield box? Just an innocent pic or something else? A TARAsia visitor perhaps? (I didn't see that but the thought occured so...)

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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
That's what I was thinking as well...But there isn't much an alliance can do to screw over other teams anymore other then yield since I'm pretty sure teams are no longer aloud to actually buy tickets for teams any more...

I think we should stick with our original plan:
1. E/D kick it up, come in first, yield D/O
(the next two are interchangeable)
2. D/K
3. C/M
and in last place
4. D/O, who got yielded because the BQs convinced E/D to do it some how!
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 12:42:33 PM
Yeah I think O/D are the victims and that sign in the store where the Yield is , is an advertisement.
I don't trust the BQ's to keep their deal with E/D ...just hoping E/D can come in first on their own.
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Another thing I completely forgot about is that this might be a TBC leg!

Reasons E/D should come in first:

Reasons D/K should come in first:

(sorry, I wanted to make a list with that bullet icon thingy!) :)
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 12:50:26 PM
In the Roadblock first or Detour first debate--

How often have there been Yield's right at the end of an episode with not much chance to recover?

How much was there left to do when the BQ's Yielded Bama? I know Bama recovered...

Because if the Yield is at the Tower, and comes just before the Roadblock as we think--then would it make more sense for the Yield/Roadblock to come first so that there is time for whoever (maybe BQ's/maybe D/O) to recover??

Or if TPTB really don't care that there is much time left--( didn't someone  (Dee's??) get Yielded right before they had to run up a hill to the  MAT? And got elim'd because of it? Hmmm--even more Karma! ) then I still think it would be more dramatic to have the Tower come after the Noodles at the end of the show.
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 12:52:47 PM
the double d's got yielded right before a RB that takes place at the pitstop location in season 9.

in TAR10 bama was yielded right before the first task, the roadblock. They caught up because R/K got a flat tire and D/K screwed up badly.
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Post by: supsandalee on April 19, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
This might be the conversation .......

Mirna to D/O: Pssst! Hey guys come here. I just overheard the BQ's and E/D talking. The BQ's are talking them into yielding you.

D/O:  :noway:

Mirna: Yeah, they flashed Eric their boobs and told them there was more where that came from. Then they told them that they would just have to outrun 4 queens, 1 bitch and a little person to get to the yield first. :boobs:

D/O: Those dirty pirate putas!!

Mirna: Hey guys, you want us to beat them up for you? (generous offer)  :meow:  :rotf:

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 01:02:18 PM
Heee for sups! :lol3: :kissy: :lol3:

Yeah--that Roadblock was the build the staue thing which at least left a little chance to catch up.

It isn't like you can jump off the Tower any faster and catch up.

If the BQ deal is to let E/D do the Tower first then there is no trust involved --because once they  let them go up first, they would be first. I don't think there will be any passing on that SkyWalk either!

Who does the Roadblock for the BQ's? It is Dustin's turn and they have been really good about "taking turns"--but maybe she is praying while waiting for Kandice to do it?
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 01:09:13 PM
If Kandice does it that means she would have done the last three RB, AND she did the mysterious edited out RB in poland, because she was wearing a life jacket, so that would make her RB count 6...

EP3 - Fish, EP4 - Letters, EP7 - Edited out one, EP9 - Bike, EP10 - Kung-Fu, EP11 - Jump..

I don't think the deal would be D/K agreeing to let E/D go up first because why would they do that...if they are first in line already then they wouldn't have to worry about being yielded..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 01:20:52 PM
Okay so Dustin does it--maybe that's why she is praying!

And I think the BQ's could be making a deal to let E/D go first so they can get to the mat first and avoid the 30 minute penalty. As in "we don't have our yield anymore but if you'll yield ____________ (insert name) we will let you do the Roadblock first so you can get to the Mat and avoid the penalty". It isn't much of a deal if they still have to run around and do a Detour too--too many chances for trouble. And Jill said it was a "very smart" thing to do....

See?? That's why I think it is Yield>>Roadblock at the Tower>>Mat
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 01:30:55 PM
Sups your a riot  :lol3:!!
OK so maybe the tickets/Yield is after the Roadblock before the Detour?  :lol:
D/O & the BQ's should realistically be at the Towers first..followed by C/M & E/D.
Maybe..
:crazy
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Boingo on April 19, 2007, 02:36:09 PM
 :lol:  FWIW, while we're all waiting for Sunday's episode, here's a comment from "Debbies" blog (http://www.johnnyjet.com/debbiec/DebbieCMacau2006.html) about her Macau Tower jump.

Ready, Set, Jump
Okay, now let's go jump off a building. Head towards Macau Tower, the tallest UFO-on-a-stick looking thing around. Starting in 2005, Macau Tower became the latest playground of bungee jumping pioneer AJ Hackett. Hackett installed the world's highest commercial decelerating-descent Sky Jump. (a.k.a a terrifying/peaceful cross between bungee jumping and skydiving) I suited up in LA prison break fluorescent orange and donned the suspiciously dainty carabiners (clips) that connect you to your lifeline- a super thick cable. Then I walked, smiling bravely, out onto a platform 233 meter in the air. My smile froze. It was really really really windy so everything sways- cable, platform, tower, you, and your innards. People down below look like ants. No . . . fleas. Below you are skyscrapers. Did you get that? BELOW you are skyscrapers. Anyway, I jumped. You free fall till the cable kicks in, and they pause you in midair to take a picture (would I make that up?!). You smile and give an obligatory "thumbs up," and then they drop you AGAIN. And you scream AGAIN. But this time you float Superman style, totally secured by your two-inch carabiners and your one-foot thick cable. Amazing. Afterwards, I did the Skywalk X, which I hasten to say is scarier than the jump. You walk around a circular platform with no railings, still 233 meter in the air, and do all sorts of daring tricks for your guide to take pictures of. The Skyjump costs $75. The Skywalk X costs only $25. Both include a photo and certificate of completion. Videos and t-shirst are available at extra cost. Macau Tower, Largo da Torre de Macau, Macau, SAR; Tel.: (853) 933 339, Email: info@macautower.com.mo.


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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 02:39:16 PM
Lookie:

(http://www.johnnyjet.com/debbiec/DebMacauSept2006BoatRaces.jpg)
It's like she went everywhere they are going in this episode  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 03:40:01 PM
Lets try this again  :lol:

Something might equalize the teams  to bunch them up around the Ferry? Maybe they have to wait for HofOperation to get the clue that sends them to the ferry from HK to Macau?
After the ferry arrives in Macau, BQ's first ones off recieve a clue "warning Yield ahead", the Yield/Clue box is located in a store? gift shop? and has the DETOUR clue options in i? Maybe thsi is where the equalizer is? Waiting for the shop to open? Why are the teams just standing around the Ferry Terminal?
Anyway the BQ's already used their Yield but can be yielded again. They come up with a plan to Bribe Eric & Dee ...pretend they are " running like they are in last place" hoping that E/D are faster to the Yield/Detour clue ahead of C/M & D/O.
Whats in it for E/D? The BQ's perhaps tell them that if they both make it to the Pitstop at the same time they will let E/Dee step on ahead of them because of E/Dee's 30 minute penalty? But will the BQ's keep the dea or notl? hmmm, something tells me no. Eric doesn't like the Yield Queens for some reason?  :knuckles:
And perhaps C/M generous offer to O/D is that they won't Yield them? or might offer them some $$ ? Really I don't know?

Back to the Yield, lets say O/D are the team that are shocked that they have been Yielded by E/Dee.

E/Dee, C/M, BQ's proceed to the Rol Detour as O/D wait out the Yield.
We see at least 2 teams, BQ's & C/M together rolling noodles .. we can't see E/Dee, they might be there too? or could have already finished ( waiting for a higher resolution video to see if we can spot a work station being dirty but complete )
O/D on their way to their Detour option, Row now..

After the Detour teams get the clue that sends them to the Roadblock/ Towers. Maybe this is where they have to drive the funny cars?
All we see is Charla performing the RB but we could assume that its Danielle/Dustins/ & Oswald's? turns?

Who gets to the Roadblock first is unknown? Your guess is as good as mine but really feel that O/D are last to arrive at the pitstop whether it be a NEL or TBC ior some think a regular Elim is still in the air.

My guess
1st) E/Dee ( or second? 30 minute penalty)
2nd) BQ's ( but are they first because of E/Dees penalty?)
3rd) C/Mirna
Last) Oswald/Danny ( NEL )



Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 03:45:16 PM
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But will the BQ's keep the dea or notl? hmmm, something tells me no. Eric doesn't like the Yield Queens for some reason? 

That's what I'm thinking as well. Why does he still hate them if they held up their end of the bargain? The way I see it two things happen:

1. d/k just get to the pitstop first and don't wait for E/D
OR
2. BOTH E/D and D/K get to the pitstop first, and since E/D are faster(i think) Eric notices that D/K are trying to beat them to the mat, which pisses him off.

Maybe the teams are waiting in the ferry terminal for their boat to leave?

OH, and about their "racing like we're in last place" comment, I really think they are just referring to the remainder of the race, because when teams are in last place they generally try a lot harder to do well, so this doesn't really mean they came in first place in this leg, it just means they were not eliminated..which is pretty much known already.

Did Phil tell E/D that if they aren't first at the next pitstop they WILL be eliminated, beacause that would imply that this leg is an elimination, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: supsandalee on April 19, 2007, 04:07:24 PM
But when teams get the clue "caution yield ahead" the yield is always at the next place they go to right??? I don't ever remember teams being told yield ahead but the yeild didn't come until much later in the leg.  ???
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:09:41 PM
Good point.. making me do the homework Michael  :lol:?

Phil: Eric & Danielle, you are the last team to arrive .. the good new is this is a non- elimination leg and you are still in the race ..but there is some bad news ..unless you arrive at the next pitstop first you will incur a 30 minute penalty and ultimately that could mean that you are eliminated from the race, so you got work to do.


slide to near the end 4:20
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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 04:12:41 PM
I'm sorry! I would have looked at it but I'm on my laptop and I only have the episodes on my PC
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:16:41 PM
But when teams get the clue "caution yield ahead" the yield is always at the next place they go to right??? I don't ever remember teams being told yield ahead but the yield didn't come until much later in the leg.  ???
I recall the BQ's Yielding the Bama's at the Morocco Roadblock . It was HoursOfOperation and the BQ's beat the Bamas to the clue box. The detours came next and the BQ's got lost on the way and were then marked for penalty for coming in LAST ! LOL
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 04:19:45 PM
 :groan:
bad, bad memories

at that time I hadn't read the Paris spoilers yet (or if I did I forgot) so I was so sure they'd make F3!

I'm really excited to see this episode because I've been saying all along that Eric doesn't like D/K for something, and the yield was someting, but they didn't appear that negative towards each other in the last episode, and if they agree to work together and both teams stick to the plan I don't see Eric hating them.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:23:43 PM
I see Eric hating the BQ's is because they don't hold up their end of the deal, this making Eric/Dee even more determined to come in first when it COUNTS  :jam:
( Hoping the Eric/Dee haters turn on the BQ's instead   :snicker: )
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 04:26:02 PM
LOL, why Puddin?

If the "deal" is what keep E/D in the race I can only imagine the amount of haters that D/K will gain if the winners do in fact end up being Danielle and Eric. I'm bracing myself early.

Are we focusing to little on Charla and Mirna here? Why don't we think they are at the front? I know they are seen with D/O but if that is at the beginning of the leg they can easily beat D/K or E/D...they are at the detour at the same time as the BQs
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:29:49 PM
C/M have car problems right? Thats why I think they are 3rd.
also it may turn into a race to the pitstop for first place between the BQ's and E/D and if the Gardens is the Pitstop that might be why Dee falls because shes running so hard to beat the BQ's when they see that the BQ's are trying to out race them?

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If the "deal" is what keep E/D in the race I can only imagine the amount of haters that D/K will gain if the winners do in fact end up being Danielle and Eric. I'm bracing myself early.
HaHa true that!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 04:32:35 PM
Well if that's the case Dee falling isn't so good  :snicker:
I thought that was Mirna falling all this time, to quote her, I am so dumb and naive! (sorry, I loved when she said that to R/A)

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 19, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
Are we focusing to little on Charla and Mirna here? Why don't we think they are at the front? I know they are seen with D/O but if that is at the beginning of the leg they can easily beat D/K or E/D...they are at the detour at the same time as the BQs

Because we hate them.

The other reason is when teams are equalized Charla & Mirna have a terribel record (one leg they did well with becuase the picked the faster detour and they had locals navigate for them, put them from last to first).

Dustin & Kandice have a good record with equalizers in being competitive.

Oswald & Danny when equlized have a good record.

And Eric & Danielle ahve a good record with being equzlized.

With part of this leg requiring driving (of which Charla can't and Mirna by her own admission has trouble), and we assume they are the team with problems (though if its the stnadard we have four crappy cars any one could stop working at any moment, it really could be any team).  IF they are the ones with car problems it even makes it harder to follow either cabs or locals, unless they kidnapp a local which they have done a few times.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:44:21 PM
Oh I thought it was Dee but Mirna does have a red back pack

the jacket and leggin's looks like Dee to me

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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
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Because we hate them.
:lol3:

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Oh I thought it was Dee but Mirna does have a red back pack
So does Danielle!!
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 04:52:11 PM
lol mswood  :lol:

thsi picture is from tarflies and has better resolution ..see the star on the canopy? maybe we can find it?

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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 19, 2007, 07:46:24 PM
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Oh I thought it was Dee but Mirna does have a red back pack
So does Danielle!!
(http://www.tarflies.com/gallery2/d/77074-1/QDVD_040.jpg)
No it looks more like Mirna to me.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: wifeofUSMCsgt on April 19, 2007, 08:14:11 PM
Oh I thought it was Dee but Mirna does have a red back pack

the jacket and leggin's looks like Dee to me

If you look at the middle pick of Danielle standing with Eric, you see a hint of red. And in the top pics you can see her hair is in pigtails..... I think it's Danielle.  :tup:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 08:29:36 PM
It's Dani's jacket and Dani's pants  :tup:

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Post by: asamber1 on April 19, 2007, 10:36:16 PM
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Oh I thought it was Dee but Mirna does have a red back pack
So does Danielle!!
(http://www.tarflies.com/gallery2/d/77074-1/QDVD_040.jpg)
No it looks more like Mirna to me.

They cant make it more obvious its Danielle!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 10:54:17 PM
....I might have posted this already..too lazy to look back.

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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 10:55:35 PM
so E/D are waiting for a boat?
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Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 11:09:05 PM
No getting off, lol.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 11:15:55 PM
??

 
The first Toys"R"Us store in Macau carries more than 3,500 items across hundreds of categories of toys.
 
Location: Ground Level, Macau Tower Convention & Entertainment Centre
Shop Tel: (853) 2896 6848
Business Hours: Monday to Sunday -- 11:00am - 8:00pm


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Post by: michael on April 19, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
I was looking at the virtual tour for the lobby in the Macau Tower and it kind of looks like where D/K are standing..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2007, 11:55:58 PM
Well now we have come full circle, I still think the Yield is in the tower in one of the stores  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2007, 11:56:12 PM
NICE FIND puddin! :happy:

That means the Yield is at the Tower for sure so we are on target!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:01:40 AM
I wonder what D/K are doing when they are standing infront of Toys R Us
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 12:03:15 AM
So what comes first?  ( here we go again  :rotf: )
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:04:31 AM
Boat > Towers > Yield > RB > Detour > Pitobecontinedstop(???)!!

That's my guess!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 12:06:40 AM
Let's do a Poll!  :lol:

I vote Ferry>>Detours>>Yield>>Tower (Roadblock) >>Garden (MAT)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:08:39 AM
Wait AGAIN!!

what I mean is...

at the towers Mirna has her hair down, and at the sky jump...
but at the Detour her hair is tied up.

I think this is AFTER they get rained on...

I'm lost :(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 12:12:09 AM
Big picture link  (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=260042248&size=o)

LOL

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:14:31 AM
 :ninja

that is a match fo sho!
now..why are they standing there??? HOH?
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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:16:42 AM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/260042199_6dd5f32f8b.jpg?v=0)

Could they be waiting for a Taxi? It looks like it might be a road right in front of where they are standing..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 12:22:46 AM
Maybe we can get Chateau times!!  :jumpy:

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 12:25:23 AM
Maybe we can get Chateau times!!  :jumpy:



I do hope you mean for the BQ's! :lol3:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 12:26:32 AM
Maybe we can get Chateau times!!  :jumpy:



I do hope you mean for the BQ's! :lol3:
  :meow:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 12:29:15 AM
Wait AGAIN!!

what I mean is...

at the towers Mirna has her hair down, and at the sky jump...
but at the Detour her hair is tied up.

I think this is AFTER they get rained on...

I'm lost :(

If I were rolling noodles I'd pull my hair back Michael  :yikes
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:30:15 AM
Well, I wouldn't know since I'm a boy and I have short hair  :angel:

 :nitenite:
Alright all, I'm off to bed...I just have to keep telling myself, one more day of school until the weekend, and I'll be happy.. Goodnight!  :hearts:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: apskip on April 20, 2007, 02:15:46 AM

Are we focusing to little on Charla and Mirna here? Why don't we think they are at the front? I know they are seen with D/O but if that is at the beginning of the leg they can easily beat D/K or E/D...they are at the detour at the same time as the BQs

I agree with Michael D. Why wouldn't Charla/Mirna be the ones to Yield Oswald/Danny, particularly if they are running 3rd nad 4th?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 02:32:03 AM
 :lol: Because they aren't immoral bitches, of course! World according to Mirna....
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Post by: supsandalee on April 20, 2007, 08:10:45 AM
Just thinking out loud here. Think about what kind of shock effect it would be for D/O to see that C/M has yielded them after they helped them by giving them their standby boarding number!!!  I'm having a little bit of a hard time thinking that E/D would NOT yield the BQ's given the opportunity. With Eric revenge would probably reign over game play.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 08:16:03 AM
I wonder what D/K are doing when they are standing infront of Toys R Us

Toys R Us Business Hours: Monday to Sunday -- 11:00am - 8:00pm

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Let's do a Poll!

Ferry to Macau Tower - Yield/RB > Mini-Moke to Noodles > Taxi? (hopefully Mini-Mokes) to Pit Stop = Cha Chas in trouble?

All Speculation of course. 
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 08:32:20 AM
Just thinking out loud here. Think about what kind of shock effect it would be for D/O to see that C/M has yielded them after they helped them by giving them their standby boarding number!!!  I'm having a little bit of a hard time thinking that E/D would NOT yield the BQ's given the opportunity. With Eric revenge would probably reign over game play.

It would be shocking indeed after Mirna's disGUSt with the yield in general and the "YQ's" use of it in particular. IMHO Eric/Dee would only use it if it were to their advantage to do so.  If for some reason the Chas are not bunched with them at the Tower Road Block they should be the ones Yielded instead of the "YQ's" who appear to be bunched.   
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
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Toys R Us Business Hours: Monday to Sunday -- 11:00am - 8:00pm

Yeah, but we don't know if they are actually going into the Toys R Us store
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:12:14 AM
If the yield is in one of the stores in the Tower heres the hours of business
Business Hours: Monday to Sunday -- 11:00am - 8:00pm
http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/kids/index.asp
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:14:57 AM
oh ok so it's all stores in the tower that open at 11.

We know the shot of D/K standing infront of Toys R US they are facing the road..maybe waiting to go in. You know, we are all assuming that another team gets to the yield first because of the web clue and "deal with the BQs" but if D/K are there waiting for the store to open, maybe they DO get to the yield first, yet they still manage to convince another team to yield another team.

Can anybody identify the area that Dustin says "it's like we're bribing them not to yield us", because if she says that infront of the toys r us then there is more then likely another team infront of them.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 10:24:23 AM
puddin found the ToysRUs store based on the reverse star seen on the awning--which makes me think that we see that awning from inside the store. (And how does she think of these things! Wow!)

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:25:43 AM
you think they are already inside the store?
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 10:30:28 AM
Or at least inside the Tower lobby looking at the storefront--how else are we seeing the under/back side of the awning?? Even if it is at a corner like it looks...

But I think the point is is that it re-confirms the Yield Box at the Tower---and TPTB are trying way too hard to make us think that that worried look on their faces is because they think they are being yielded. Smokescreen, anyone? :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: Macau leg
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
I was thinking they are standing outside, see the glass?

To answer Michael on where the BQ's are reading the clue..


This looks like the Macau ferry terminal to me too. (Note blue and white directional signs in the right background.) Looks like that's where they get their first clue.


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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 10:44:42 AM
maybe a corner view so we are looking across the corner to the underside of the awning?  Heck--I don't know! :lol3:


Got to run--see y'all later!



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Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 10:55:47 AM
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Toys R Us Business Hours: Monday to Sunday -- 11:00am - 8:00pm

Yeah, but we don't know if they are actually going into the Toys R Us store

Well it is getting close to Christmas so maybe they will pull a Cha Chas and go Shopping  ???
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Post by: supsandalee on April 20, 2007, 10:56:14 AM
Morning all  :waves:

I think this is the shot Michael is referring to. This is when they say "it's like we are bribing them" and Dustin is folding up something.



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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
Pretty sure that is the Ferry Terminal too Sups  :tup:

morning everyone  :waves:
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:59:44 AM
MONDAY MORNING ON THE EARLY SHOW

Trying to finance your home might put you at risk. When you apply for a mortgage, credit bureaus could be selling your personal information! How can you protect yourself? Plus, workouts to get you fit and toned just in time for summer. And, actress Sigourney Weaver on her new comedy The TV Set. These stories and more, Monday morning, on The Early Show.

insidescoop (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/10/04/broadcasts/main64925.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories) << if you all want to check back later
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Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
MONDAY MORNING ON THE EARLY SHOW

Trying to finance your home might put you at risk. When you apply for a mortgage, credit bureaus could be selling your personal information! How can you protect yourself? Plus, workouts to get you fit and toned just in time for summer. And, actress Sigourney Weaver on her new comedy The TV Set. These stories and more, Monday morning, on The Early Show.

insidescoop (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/10/04/broadcasts/main64925.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories) << if you all want to check back later


Back-to-back NEL's Cha Chas MFE  ??? :groan:


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Post by: makz3d on April 20, 2007, 11:08:06 AM
Morning all  :waves:

I think this is the shot Michael is referring to. This is when they say "it's like we are bribing them" and Dustin is folding up something.



Just in back of Dustin's head looks like the ramp that lowers to allow vehicles to enter the Ferry.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 11:17:56 AM
Oh heck--who needs to do errands anyway! :lol:

If the first clue at the ferry says "caution, Yield Ahead" then the BQ's are already strategizing then about how to "bribe" another team to help them (maybe with the Yield?)--anyway, maybe before they know for sure which team will be in a position/racing order to help them and before they get to the Tower for sure..  The BQ's should be at least 1-2 hours ahead of E/D at that point based on ferry times.  Unless there was some bunching elsewhere that we haven't seen, of course.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: makz3d on April 20, 2007, 11:29:14 AM


I've watched Phil's Preview several times wearing out the Pause button.

IMO I think BQ's beat C/M in "noodles".  In the video Phil says "For a while now Mirna..." and when he says Mirna there is a view of Charla on the table and if you pause at the right moment you can clearly see a dark haired male with a yellow shirt on talking to a BQ.  Then a few seconds later (about the end of Mirna yelling) it looks like the BQ's are no long using the pole and may be having their work checked.

To me this means that BQ's have finished the task (or a part of it) and are ready to continue on.

Sorry I don't know how to capture the scene.  I know how to save the screen but don't have a program to cut off all of the extras around the video.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 11:55:36 AM
Good eye! makz3d!

I use FastStone capture  (http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm). Slowhatch recommended it and it has worked very well for me--and it is free!



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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
 :yess:

Well, when the BQs are opening their clue "caution yield ahead" it looks a lot darker then the shot where Dustin is saying "it's like we are bribing them not to yield us!" so maybe they have to wait a while for their boat to leave.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 12:03:50 PM
Same person here  ??? It looks like EDEE may be cracking up at CM antics on the noodle table  :lol:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23833;image)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:06:34 PM
You know, I'm thinking C/M, E/D, D/K are all at the detour at the same time, and E/D are either laughing at D/K (doubtful, because they aren't very funny) or C/M..

That yellow person looks like a match!

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23909;image)
Is that a window in the top left because if it is you can tell it's dark outside...it could just be another room with the lights off though...but we know 100% that E/D are there in daylight:
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23833;image)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 12:10:23 PM
Okay--who  :waves: is this Sanchez 12 and WHAT have you done with our BigPapi?? :lol: ??? :lol:


This all makes me think morning Detour with hours of op with the Roadblock/Yield still to come.

Or maybe O/D took the dragon boat Detour because it is closer to the Tower and they were trying to make up time after being Yielded.

I can go either way!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 12:13:02 PM
You know, I'm thinking C/M, E/D, D/K are all at the detour at the same time, and E/D are either laughing at D/K (doubtful, because they aren't very funny) or C/M..

That yellow person looks like a match!

That's what I thought as well even though the video just shows YQ's and C/M. It appears that EDEE are also finished and "The Four Pack" will be on their way to the pit stop. 
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 12:13:34 PM
:yess:

Well, when the BQs are opening their clue "caution yield ahead" it looks a lot darker then the shot where Dustin is saying "it's like we are bribing them not to yield us!" so maybe they have to wait a while for their boat to leave.

Michael--that shot is in the ferry terminal in Macau--after they have gotten off the HK to Macau Ferry...

Well--at least the clue reading one is--not 100% sure about the bribe one...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 12:14:55 PM
Oh, thanks Peach!

(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9460/darkoranotherroomao1.png)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 12:23:57 PM
Okay--who  :waves: is this Sanchez 12 and WHAT have you done with our BigPapi?? :lol: ??? :lol:


This all makes me think morning Detour with hours of op with the Roadblock/Yield still to come.

Or maybe O/D took the dragon boat Detour because it is closer to the Tower and they were trying to make up time after being Yielded.

I can go either way!

  :waves: Big Papi has been YIELDED  :lol3:

In the preview you can see Danny, wearing shorts and carrying the clue,  running in front of Oswald who is carrying the red drum. It appears to be early in the AM so you may be correct "either way"  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
RIP BigPapi! :roses: I'll miss you! *sniff*
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Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
Oh, thanks Peach!

(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9460/darkoranotherroomao1.png)

In the pic where you see the four ladies noodlin' you can clearly see that Dustin's noodle, she appears to be measuring it with a stick as in this pic , is longer than Mirna's noodle, so yes it appears that C/M may be last out of that detour.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 12:32:51 PM
RIP BigPapi! :roses: I'll miss you! *sniff*

Me too  :whereru:   :lol3:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: serendipity on April 20, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
I think now it is clear that the first clue is located outside ferry terminal, and direct teams to the macau tower with hours of operation to bunch up the teams.  (:;) Therefore I am pretty sure that the scene where we see Dustin saying trying to bribe others is outside the macau tower, they are waiting for it to open.

And for the yield mat, from the background I think it is placed at the floor where they do the skywalk, you can see wooden floor outside and I bet this is right outside the lift. Therefore the mat is not at ground floor and it is crucial for teams to take the first lift to the top of the tower to avoid being yielded.

However, what I don't understand is why E/D seem waiting outside the ferry terminal? What are they waiting for? Could this clip come from the later part where they have to go back to HK and take plane to Guam?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 01:13:47 PM
But Mirna is seen waiting for Charla on the ground...and the Yield box is outside the Tower...

 E/D could be waiting for the ferry back after they get the TBC news for sure.

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 01:44:39 PM
I am betting that once we see the episode everything we thought was going to happen is going to be way off  :'(

I think D/K and E/D are going to be "edited' to race for first place...and if it's TBC which ever one gets there first will be the last team we see until next week..because that's usually how the TBC episodes work....we wouldn't see E/D go back to the ferry terminal until the following episode.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 02:25:15 PM
I am betting that once we see the episode everything we thought was going to happen is going to be way off  :'(

I think D/K and E/D are going to be "edited' to race for first place...and if it's TBC which ever one gets there first will be the last team we see until next week..because that's usually how the TBC episodes work....we wouldn't see E/D go back to the ferry terminal until the following episode.

Jeez, I'm hoping it's not a TBC or EDEE will be carrying that MFE penalty through two episodes. Unless they come in last again of course, then the TBC is okey dokey  :happy:  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 02:47:48 PM
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I am betting that once we see the episode everything we thought was going to happen is going to be way off   :'( 

Yes, Poland is stuck in a lot of our minds! :lol:

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Jeez, I'm hoping it's not a TBC or EDEE will be carrying that MFE penalty through two episodes.
Or is the place where Phil says keep on racing still considered a "Mat" where the MFE penalty would be absolved?

Interesting...

We at least know it is not an elimination (no racers at TES)--but TBC or weird back-to-back NEL or BVM surprise are still possible, I guess.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 03:39:13 PM
So as far as the yield, how much do we know???

The only thing that we PROBABLY know 100% is that D/K don't get yielded
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 03:48:23 PM
It's probably just a filter placed on the video by the makers of the web promo. I'm still not sure if my photos of the BQs at the detour during "dark" is actually dark..or if it's just another room without the lights on.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 20, 2007, 05:04:49 PM
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I am betting that once we see the episode everything we thought was going to happen is going to be way off   :'( 

Yes, Poland is stuck in a lot of our minds! :lol:

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Jeez, I'm hoping it's not a TBC or EDEE will be carrying that MFE penalty through two episodes.

Or is the place where Phil says keep on racing still considered a "Mat" where the MFE penalty would be absolved?

Interesting...

We at least know it is not an elimination (no racers at TES)--but TBC or weird back-to-back NEL or BVM surprise are still possible, I guess.


puddin...HELP !!!!!!!!!! What's gonna happen here  :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 20, 2007, 06:36:48 PM
On the poll...

HK Ferry Terminal -> Macau Ferry Terminal -> Taxi to Macau Tower -> Yield -> RB -> Local cars to next Route Marker -> Detour -> Local cars to Lou Lim Leoc -> No mat, cluebox with instructions to do something in the Gardens -> Next episode.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 07:02:00 PM
HK equalizer HofO get the clue that takes you too ->HK Ferry Terminal -> Macau Ferry Terminal -> pedicab to Macau Tower -> Yield ( E/D yield O/D)-> RB -> Local cars to next Route Marker -> Detour -> run to Lou Lim Leoc -> Pitstop -> NEL O/D marked for penalty.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 07:31:10 PM
Wouldn't it be so stupid if E/D come in last and Phil makes them wait 30 minutes before checking in, only to tell them "you are last again, and you are marked for elimination AGAIN!"  :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 07:39:06 PM
Phils preview on Yahoo  (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=245724&src=tv&ch=245853)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0002.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0009.jpg)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
OK, I think C/M and D/K are way behind E/D because to me, personally, it looks like it's dark outside while they are doing the detour. I can be seeing things though.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 07:46:40 PM
puddin--that link is taking me to American Idol Buzz-- ??? but sure is nice quality!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 07:53:05 PM
Peach, just click "amazing race" on the side!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 07:58:37 PM
Or the webpage
http://tv.yahoo.com/the-amazing-race-all-stars/show/40557;_ylt=AgnbH6EQzVk3HDxlnZk5LYcbqdEF

well someone isn't there yet, probably the Cha's doing the dragon/drum

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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 08:00:46 PM
E/D's station is near the windows

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 08:01:17 PM
That table looks used, but we know that isn't where E/D are standing because there is a window right behind them. Maybe E/D ARE there but we just can't see them. Where is that darn window they are standing infront of?!  :groan:

Who are they looking at and laughing?!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 08:03:23 PM
Wouldn't it be so stupid if E/D come in last and Phil makes them wait 30 minutes before checking in, only to tell them "you are last again, and you are marked for elimination AGAIN!"  :groan:
Knock it off! Theirs already mass confusion by people changing what they think every other post  :umn:. I think we were right back on page 3 and 4.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
That table looks used, but we know that isn't where E/D are standing because there is a window right behind them. Maybe E/D ARE there but we just can't see them. Where is that darn window they are standing infront of?!  :groan:

Who are they looking at and laughing?!
They are laughing at us. The table I circled DOES NOT LOOK USED! Thats why I circled it!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 08:05:20 PM
LOL puddin, it's crazy I know, but we can never be to sure...like peach said, remember Poland? :groan:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 08:23:21 PM
LOL puddin, it's crazy I know, but we can never be to sure...like peach said, remember Poland? :groan:
Michael, I predict that one of your 101 predictions will be right then you can scream  "HEY I got it RIGHT!"  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 08:25:42 PM
LOL puddin, it's crazy I know, but we can never be to sure...like peach said, remember Poland? :groan:
Michael, I predict that one of your 101 predictions will be right then you can scream  "HEY I got it RIGHT!"  :lol:

 :lol3: LOL, I see you've caught onto my secret - guess every single possibility so it looks like I was right B:)
No...I'm like that with everything, my mind honestly changes every second.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 08:42:43 PM
I can't get the angle but...
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Post by: Neobie on April 20, 2007, 08:51:59 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23907;image)

Too new to be the Macau Ferry Terminal? It's either the base of the Macau Tower or at the taxi stand, ground floor of Shun Tak; the Hong Kong Ferry Terminal.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 08:54:37 PM
1000th Post!
Posting with you guys is a lot of fun, as you can see from the amount of posts I've gained in a little amount of time!  :hearts: Thank you all for being awesome!

Neobie - I was thinking it's at the base of the Macau tower right infront of the Toys R Us, but I'm not sure...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 20, 2007, 08:58:26 PM
D/O carrying the drum on a downtown street. I can't read the writing. It's probably too far to walk to the dragon boat lake.
Congrats to the new thousand-aire! :jam:

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 09:01:36 PM
MICHAEL'S 1000 POSTS!

               PARTY TIME!



           :nana :yikes :party: :yikes :nana



 
:cheer: :conf: :cheer: :conf: :cheer: :conf:  :cheer: :conf: :cheer: :conf: :cheer: :conf:

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 09:03:38 PM
 :wohoo:
Thanks guys!  :ninja
 :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Neobie on April 20, 2007, 09:06:42 PM
Congrats Michael D! :jumpy:

And of course! Got this off the virtual tour of the Macau Tower...

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 09:08:07 PM
So I'm guessing they are just waiting for the place to open since all teams will probably get there before 11AM which is what time the stores open.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 09:15:50 PM
Neobie--could that be at a ferry ramp and the triangular thing be where they let down the ramp for the ferry? They have something similar in San Fran...

And where is that shot puddin? HK ferry terminal or Macau side?

Nobody takes a lot of shots of outside doggone it.--I can't find good pics of the Cheung Wan terminal in HK.

And where do we think they are here--I thought Tower or Macau ferry--but??

Slowhatch
--here's a little map--it says 5 minutes by car from the ferry to the Tower.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 20, 2007, 09:36:03 PM
I was just trying to make sense of this cap (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00414-17-2007.jpg) and work backwards from there. If it's the bridge that Neobie and others have mentioned, then the near-right-angle of the bridge spots them on the frontage walkway, traveling in the direction of the arrow. Maybe a taxi let them off to catch the dragon boat; it's a long way to walk from any downtown area.

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 09:44:30 PM
Thanks Slowhatch--much nicer than my little map--I'll fix my arrows.

What is Danny carrying under his right arm? He has it here too..

I'm thinking it could maybe be a dragon head to decorate the boat with?

Really wish we could time your shot!

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 09:47:49 PM
Peach, it looks like a Dragons head to me!
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:12:37 PM
I think Slowhatch called it as the dragon/mast on page 3 or 4? I'm too lazy to look back.

Happy 1000th Michael! <<  :jumpy:
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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:14:56 PM
thank you miss puddin  :happy:

When does CBS start showing those little pictures (i forgot what you called them!!) but an example of one was that thing that made us think U/J came in first in Warsaw.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 10:15:21 PM
Slowhatch--I think you were looking for the funny road surfaces in GE?

I found this near the A-ma Temple (see my little map above--just N of tower)

I wonder if the Noodle place could be in that area?

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23926;image)
could the building behind C/M be the noodle place?!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 20, 2007, 10:20:13 PM
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Slowhatch--I think you were looking for the funny road surfaces in GE?
Not me.  ??? Boingo, maybe. (I'm getting confused  :duno:  :-[  :lol:).
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
picture in pictures Michael and they should be on during Golf tomorrow  :waves:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 10:23:26 PM
I agree; the drum (and maybe the pole/mast/etc. thingy as well) is for the dragon boat.

Yep--you are absolutely right--sorry Slowhatch--I missed that one! :(

YOU"RE confused? Ha! That's my line!

Well, could somebody go call Boingo then? :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:24:50 PM
Thanks Puddin...hmm I wonder if that's what the PIP button on my remote stands for...my dad told me "not to touch it because the TV will explode" ... he has really bad English so I think he meant break LOL

I think it might have been Boingo peach!
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 10:25:42 PM
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Slowhatch--I think you were looking for the funny road surfaces in GE?
Not me.  ??? Boingo, maybe. (I'm getting confused  :duno:  :-[  :lol:).
Welcome to my world Slowhatch  :jumpy:!!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Neobie on April 20, 2007, 10:50:06 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23926;image)

Not at the A-Ma Temple, I think. The building behind looks too run down to be near any place of attraction. Yet I can't find many other wavy patterns on Google Earth. *tears hair* Hunch tells me it's not on the mainland part of Macau, but I don't know if I can trust it!

The Dustin praying cap is on the Nam Van Lake side of the Macau Tower, which is strange since it is on the opposite side of the tower as the entrance, and doesn't actually lead anywhere. Is Dustin waiting for Kandice to jump off the tower, and praying for her safety?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 10:52:01 PM
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Is Dustin waiting for Kandice to jump off the tower, and praying for her safety?

That's what I'm thinking, which also means that Kandice is finished with her road blocks.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 11:00:30 PM
What side do the jumpers land on? Maybe Dustin has just landed and is saying Thank you Lord!

Thanks for that info Neobie--I wasn't 100% sure where that shot was!
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2007, 11:08:39 PM

Yep--you are absolutely right--sorry Slowhatch--I missed that one! :(

YOU"RE confused? Ha! That's my line!

Well, could somebody go call Boingo then? :lol:

 B:)   B:)    B:)    B:)    B:)    B:)    :groan:        :zz:   <--- "Boingo"   (you guys bore me to tears....)    ;)

..oh well, it's time for the Dancing Muffin

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 11:14:15 PM
Ooohh--I like how Boingo comes when we call! :lol: (I'll ignore the boring part for now...)

Did you see my street pics upstream? Any use?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 11:19:07 PM
I just want to remind everybody who thinks that this is a TBC episode that we still have D/K confessional of them in the exact same clothes and have the exact same hair style  (tied up, straight) that they have during the Macau leg. This is most likely a NEL due to the fact that we have a confessional at what appears to be a pit stop.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Carmen on April 20, 2007, 11:24:51 PM
I just want to remind everybody who thinks that this is a TBC episode that we still have D/K confessional of them in the exact same clothes and have the exact same hair that they have during the Macau leg. This is most likely a NEL due to the fact that we have a confessional at what appears to be a pit stop.

I always have the same hair when I'm not wearing a wig.  :yikes
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2007, 11:26:42 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23926;image)

Not at the A-Ma Temple, I think. The building behind looks too run down to be near any place of attraction. Yet I can't find many other wavy patterns on Google Earth. *tears hair* Hunch tells me it's not on the mainland part of Macau, but I don't know if I can trust it!

The Dustin praying cap is on the Nam Van Lake side of the Macau Tower, which is strange since it is on the opposite side of the tower as the entrance, and doesn't actually lead anywhere. Is Dustin waiting for Kandice to jump off the tower, and praying for her safety?

OK, now that I'm temporarily out of my coma, here's my take on the "wavy" street.  After seeing the actual clip, C/M appear to be on a large square, and you can see a corner of a raised (platform?) or something in the square before they cut away.  From what I've read, the "wavy" pattern extends all the way up to the Ruins of Sao Paulo.  My guess is that TAR will at least visit the sacred facade during the episode, if only to get a clue.  It is, after all, the symbol of Macau.  Note Charla is pointing up, maybe in anticipation of climbing the stairs to the ruins (like in Malaysia).  Or, maybe not.   :groan:   Oh, wait, I may be slipping back into my coma again....yes, I feel sleepy.....sleepy......  ;D

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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 11:27:08 PM
nvm
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2007, 11:38:50 PM
Thank you Boingo! I guess I'll give up on the Noodle place if those roads are everywhere!

I would like to see the Ruins though...    ;)
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Post by: michael on April 20, 2007, 11:49:23 PM
I wonder where those (I can't for the life in me remember what they are called...those things that are pulled by somebody!) come into play.
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2007, 11:52:05 PM
...someone owes me a new pair of underwear  :lol3:, you all are cracking me up  :lol:!!


digging
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:03:44 AM
typical Macau streets

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:10:23 AM
these go together

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:11:50 AM
what Boingo said

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2007, 12:17:47 AM
...someone owes me a new pair of underwear  :lol3:, you all are cracking me up  :lol:!

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 12:19:14 AM
 :lol3:
Nice work peach  :jam:
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:21:48 AM
another

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:22:59 AM
haha granny panities  :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2007, 12:26:24 AM
Teri and Ian wanted you to have those! :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:30:04 AM
just comparing the roofs

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/168374872_6e47330481.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00444-17-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00434-17-2007.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:31:22 AM
Teri and Ian wanted you to have those! :lol3:
:luvu: I like
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Post by: down_with_alli on April 21, 2007, 12:34:44 AM
I see Eric hating the BQ's is because they don't hold up their end of the deal, this making Eric/Dee even more determined to come in first when it COUNTS  :jam:
( Hoping the Eric/Dee haters turn on the BQ's instead   :snicker: )

I think Puddin's right on the mark (as usual except that time when I primarily thought it was going to be a NEL leg then it was disregarded by her but now she's saying it might be a possibility haha  :hearts: ya Puddin!).

Anyhow, E/D aren't really getting a "winners" edit, it's just more like a "meh we're here and we have really bad luck and bicker sometimes" edit. But I think after this leg it'll all change and from now the whole thing's going to be a clash/real rivalry between them and the BQs for the win (which I think more people would want to see happen as that may be a lesser of 2 evils).

Also, about the ending of the leg (if it's a NEL, TBC or elim whatever haha), I think the producers may have made up their minds on the spot (like that apparent changing of NEL in Malaysia to an elim one) and it'd be like if E/D came in last, they'd be eliminated but if anyone else came in last it'd be a NEL. Are they allowed to do that? I don't know. But it's a bit weird if they assume that E/D are not going to come in last and incur the penalty again.

End of thoughts  :meow:.

 :wohoo:  Again everyone keep up the good work and correct me if I'm wrong because I love learning stuff lol.

P.S Wait a sec, are they allowed to make em incur a 1 hour penalty if they come in last again!? ANSWER ME PLEASO DOCTORO!
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2007, 12:37:13 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23907;image)

Too new to be the Macau Ferry Terminal? It's either the base of the Macau Tower or at the taxi stand, ground floor of Shun Tak; the Hong Kong Ferry Terminal.

Neobie thought it might be here.

I like your roofs though but it doesn't extend far enough--at least on that side.

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 12:40:08 AM
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But I think after this leg it'll all change and from now the whole thing's going to be a clash/real rivalry between them and the BQs for the win

I agree, but only if D/K break the deal they make with E/D (if that is the team they do indeed make a deal with), if not I guess Eric just hates them for some other reason (thinks they're fake) but still might get along with them fine from now until the end (AGAIN, only if they DIDN'T break the deal)!
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Post by: down_with_alli on April 21, 2007, 12:44:18 AM
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But I think after this leg it'll all change and from now the whole thing's going to be a clash/real rivalry between them and the BQs for the win

I agree, but only if D/K break the deal they make with E/D (if that is the team they do indeed make a deal with), if not I guess Eric just hates them for some other reason (thinks they're fake) but still might get along with them fine from now until the end (AGAIN, only if they DIDN'T break the deal)!

I think them breaking the deal/pulling some weird shit in this episode may be very probable seeing as...well I dunno...a lot of people I've talked to (quizzed about an E/D victory) where I live say they don't mind, but they just need more to root for from E/D to make their victory more satisfying and this may be it (as much as I love D/K and C/M)
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 12:48:06 AM
Well, I think the fact that E/D are still in it after all the bad luck they've had is a good enough reason for them to win, but some of us still choose to be dreamers and think of a different out come  :angel: ... like Puddin and Peach showing up to race in the last leg and become the first F/F team to win!
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Post by: down_with_alli on April 21, 2007, 12:51:14 AM
Well, I think the fact that E/D are still in it after all the bad luck they've had is a good enough reason for them to win, but some of us still choose to be dreamers and think of a different out come  :angel: ... like Puddin and Peach showing up to race in the last leg and become the first F/F team to win!

lol that would be awesome.

Then after Phil would go "THE AMAZING RACE IS COMING TO AUSTRALIA".

Then I'd go on with my mum or my sister and yield the annoying bickering couple and have relations with more BQs and win in a footrace to the finish line and win.

A man can only dream...
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 01:09:13 AM
more pier at Macau
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2007, 01:16:51 AM
Great job on the pier! I'll bet that is it--where the cars are could be the cross walk--those square bumper guards could be what we have been calling the trangular thing...

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Post by: rottenchestnut on April 21, 2007, 01:19:11 AM
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Not at the A-Ma Temple, I think. The building behind looks too run down to be near any place of attraction. Yet I can't find many other wavy patterns on Google Earth. *tears hair* Hunch tells me it's not on the mainland part of Macau, but I don't know if I can trust it!

The Dustin praying cap is on the Nam Van Lake side of the Macau Tower, which is strange since it is on the opposite side of the tower as the entrance, and doesn't actually lead anywhere. Is Dustin waiting for Kandice to jump off the tower, and praying for her safety?

OK, now that I'm temporarily out of my coma, here's my take on the "wavy" street.  After seeing the actual clip, C/M appear to be on a large square, and you can see a corner of a raised (platform?) or something in the square before they cut away.  From what I've read, the "wavy" pattern extends all the way up to the Ruins of Sao Paulo.  My guess is that TAR will at least visit the sacred facade during the episode, if only to get a clue.  It is, after all, the symbol of Macau.  Note Charla is pointing up, maybe in anticipation of climbing the stairs to the ruins (like in Malaysia).  Or, maybe not.   :groan:   Oh, wait, I may be slipping back into my coma again....yes, I feel sleepy.....sleepy......  ;D

What do you all think if I say it could be just after C/M completed their noodle task? The 2-storey building looks like some shophouses that is also typical in Macau. The window also looks like the one on E/D pic.  B:)
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 01:24:35 AM
That could be it! Which also means they aren't there at the night so they might not be as far behind as I thought they were! YAY!  :ninja
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2007, 01:26:47 AM
Just checked the windows --sadly I think they are different...
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Post by: rottenchestnut on April 21, 2007, 01:30:51 AM
Although it looks dark inside but the sunlight is not strong during Dec most of the time. So I bet it's not night time when teams are doing the noodle task. These type of shophouses tend to be dim, so they need to switch on light.  :wohoo:
See the window on the right side, it looks like the one behind E/D.
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 01:45:11 AM
..agreeing with peach

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Post by: rottenchestnut on April 21, 2007, 01:48:54 AM
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Post by: makz3d on April 21, 2007, 11:45:33 AM

I haven't gone through and counted, but it seems to me that there a several pics of C/M in the rain.  Doesn't seem like the others are in the rain but it also seems like most pics of others are under cover or inside.

Could the person who posted the daily weather for a past day post for this day in Macau?  Would it have been 12/13 for sure?

I don't think BQ or E/D actually got rained on enough to get their clothes wet.
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 11:47:40 AM
That is why I think the BQs are ahead of C/M at the detour, because in the shot where you can see both teams, Mirna looks really wet, but D/K look dry...so DK and ED were probably there long enough to dry, while C/M might have just arrived.
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:01:21 PM
Phil preview in hi-res  (http://cbsmediagroupftp.com/clips06/AMAZINGRACE_WEEK10_700.wmv)  :ninja

Where Eric is running its raining, in the car shown with Dani/Eric its raining, when the Cha's are doing the Detour its raining,
Charla and Mirna's windshield wipers are on in the Moke scene etc....

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 12:18:11 PM
 :yess:
thanks for the hi-res puddin!
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 21, 2007, 12:37:07 PM
Phil preview in hi-res  (http://cbsmediagroupftp.com/clips06/AMAZINGRACE_WEEK10_700.wmv)  :ninja

Where Eric is running its raining, in the car shown with Dani/Eric its raining, when the Cha's are doing the Detour its raining,
Charla and Mirna's windshield wipers are on in the Moke scene etc....


Interesting to note that the BQ's are working in the noodle factory at the same time that Charla and Mirna are.  But who is ahead?
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 12:37:43 PM
no problem Michael and I just saw the pic in pic and it was all the same, nothing we haven't seen already.
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 12:53:44 PM
gman at this point we are THINKING that D/K might be ahead of charla and mirna and we are not sure if ED are there at the same time. There is a shot of ED looking at something and laughing, which might be anohter team....but there has been no shot to actually prove that all three teams are there at the same time!

Aww, i was hoping the PIP would shed some new light!
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Post by: Big Papi on April 21, 2007, 12:56:29 PM
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Interesting to note that the BQ's are working in the noodle factory at the same time that Charla and Mirna are.  But who is ahead?

D/K's noodle dough appears to be rolled out and Dustin may be measuring to cut it while Mirna is still working hard on her noodle.
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Post by: makz3d on April 21, 2007, 01:01:52 PM
Puddin,  Thanks so much for Hi Res.  I prefer using Real Player and I captured the screen (full screen) showing Mirna's watch at about 55 secs and it came up with RP frame and a black screen.

Can anyone play with this?  What I was trying to save showed Mirna's watch pretty good when the clue was given to C/M after Tower.  I had to replay and pause quite a few times to get it to stop at a good watch angle.
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
I tried to look at the watch's too but had no luck at guessing the times ..

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 01:53:32 PM
makz3d  in realone..tools, preference, hardware, video card capability, lower preference to most reliable. In mediaplayer, tools options, performance, video acceleration, lower to none.



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Post by: down_with_alli on April 21, 2007, 02:16:45 PM
Phil preview in hi-res  (http://cbsmediagroupftp.com/clips06/AMAZINGRACE_WEEK10_700.wmv)  :ninja

Where Eric is running its raining, in the car shown with Dani/Eric its raining, when the Cha's are doing the Detour its raining,
Charla and Mirna's windshield wipers are on in the Moke scene etc....


Puddin  :hearts:  marry me? I swear this long distance relationship thing will work!

Anyhow, way to go to disregard the Chas in the preview CBS. OH WAIT! I saw them for .3 of a second!
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 02:50:22 PM
 :waves: our toyrrus is a perfect match..

just for fun

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 03:36:48 PM
I’m going to put my bamboo out on the line and make some guesses:

Teams arrive in Macau in the order that they checked in at the Hong Kong pit stop (Chas, BQs, C&M, D&E).
They get their first clue there at the ferry terminal that warns of the Yield ahead.
They take rickshaws to the Macau Tower and the lead teams are held up by Hours of Operation.
BQs bribe Chas not to Yield them.
Chas do it anyway.
BQs are delayed by the Yield but still ahead of C&M and D&E.
Chas do the Drum Detour while all the other teams do Noodles
Teams arrive at and complete the Detours in the same order that they checked in at the Hong Kong pit stop.  Just that BQs are now just a little bit ahead of C&M.
Teams finish the episode in the same order that they started it (Chas, BQs, C&M, D&E).
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 03:43:18 PM
Chateau - if you think BQs get yielded how do you explain the "One time is shocked to discover that they are a victim of a surprising deal between the Beauty Queens and a certain other team" webclue?
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 03:57:37 PM
I don't have a good explanation for that.  I was trying to create a mechanism for the closing of the time gap between BQs and C&M.  I'm definitely open for re-thinking this.

Please don't hurt my bamboo.
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 04:02:03 PM
I think it's easy to explain C/M and D/K at the detour together. All teams will be bunched at the RB (tower jump), with D/O getting yielded, and then E/D, C/M, D/K all go to the detour at around the same time. That's my take anyways.
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 04:06:03 PM
I guess it would be useful to know what the Hours of Operation are going to be. 

Will they be that 10:00 am  (I think someone posted) or will they be an earlier time that has been arranged by production?
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 04:08:43 PM
Thanks to a shot from Puddin I can fix a location for this shot.  And just guessing by general illuminance it looks to be at about noon.

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 04:11:25 PM
I'm pretty sure that the tower opens at 11AM.
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 04:13:07 PM
No Michael...I thought we decided that the RB comes first right? that would be the bunch up and thats where the BQ's might wheel and deal and perhaps tell E/D that they will run like they are in last place to theYield hoping that E/D get to it before the other 2 teams and offer them a bribe of some sort?
Chateau has a time estimate at E/D at the noodles/detour around 2ish leaving plenty of morning 11 ish for the RB.
Teams should not be bunched at the tower HofO ..TPTB probably set up special time for them to enter the tower because of tourists and such and that very well could be before the tower opens to the public ... in the morning.

Thats my bamboo and I'm sticking a noodle to it  :knuckles:
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Post by: makz3d on April 21, 2007, 04:19:01 PM
Chateau - if you think BQs get yielded how do you explain the "One time is shocked to discover that they are a victim of a surprising deal between the Beauty Queens and a certain other team" webclue?

Michael,  I just thought this:  BQ & whoever make a deal that BQ is not yielded.  Then BQ is SHOCKED that they are yielded.  It just dawned on me that CBS doesn't state which team is shocked and want to mislead us by telling us that the deal was between the BQ and another team.  So, any team except the "other" team would be shocked at being yielded.

Just another idea to confuse everyone.  My mind is reeling trying to figure this episode out from the clues.
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 04:19:08 PM
Yeah puddin, that's what I said, the bunch happens at the RB, and that's how C/M and D/K and probably E/D all end up at the detour around the same time:

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 04:21:45 PM
Puddin, you don't have bamboo   :o

So I think, Michael D, based on the noonish time for the BQ jump, you may well be right about all teams getting bunched at the Tower.  I am also trying to account for the shower that Charla gets as she walks along the top of the Tower.  Weather underground has some rain starting at 12:30 on December 13th in Macau.  Dustin looks dry as she looks on.

I have not been able to make a definitive decisions about the other shots.  Dry versus rain.  I know someone posted some ideas about this.  How sure are they.  I guess I'm looking for some kind of error bars on them.  I can't get the videos top play here.  So I just go by the stills.

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Post by: makz3d on April 21, 2007, 04:36:17 PM
Yeah puddin, that's what I said, the bunch happens at the RB, and that's how C/M and D/K and probably E/D all end up at the detour around the same time:

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I have a feeling E/D are at the Noodles after BQ finish which is the same time Mirna goes off on Charla.  In the videos use the pause a lot and the table in the back of BQ  & C/M looks very clean.  In Real you can watch full screen and pause and get a good look at the table.

This could mean 2 things.  There are only 3 tables (Remember TAR 10 where BQ bypassed the entrance to the task and when they did get there they had to wait cause only 3 teams could do the task at the same time?) and the clean table is E/D were there, they are done and station cleaned.  Or it means they have not started yet.  But if there are 4 stations then E/D, C/M & BQ could all be doing it at the same time and E/D are off camera.  Also, with 4 stations then E/D still might not be there yet.

Sorry, my mind is working in overdrive.
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 04:36:48 PM
heres Charla/Mirna , Chateau
No bamboo here..only noodles  ;D

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 04:43:08 PM
We were hoping you could guess a time on this too :bow:

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 04:46:27 PM
if there is a first come first serve detour this episode would exactly mirror episode 11 of TAR10..

Yield > RB > Detour (first come first serve) > Pit Stop > Nel (?)
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 04:48:50 PM
if there is a first come first serve detour this episode would exactly mirror episode 11 of TAR10..

Yield > RB > Detour (first come first serve) > Pit Stop > Nel (?)
thats silly? we see the BQ's & C/M in the same room/detour
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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 04:51:50 PM
No, what I meant is like...only 3 teams aloud at the detour at once... ( i was making a comment on makz3d's comment)
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 04:56:42 PM
This shot was taken here between 3:20 and 4:40 pm (assumes December 13th)

Thanks to Micheal for the black&white shot. It helps with the locating.

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 04:58:49 PM
No, what I meant is like...only 3 teams aloud at the detour at once... ( i was making a comment on makz3d's comment)
Go figure  :snicker:
makz3d  if you read back we already discussed that E/D's station is out of sight in the Phil preview and their station is near the front.. by the windows. I'm not posting the pictures again....look back a few pages.

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Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 05:05:32 PM
hmm...would we say that's late considering the tasks they have to do? I want to know if I should change my votes for my first round in the RFF TAR game!
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 21, 2007, 05:28:22 PM
This shot was taken here between 8:30 and 9:30 am (assumes Decmber 13th)

The homes across the lake are very brightly illuminated.  This would be consistent with some early morning sun being directly reflected from them back to the Toys R Us location.

Thanks to Puddin for the locator shot.  I would have never been able to "see" and know how to locate the homes in the BQ shot.

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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 05:57:09 PM
Merci le chateau d si, comme roche d'always..you mon monde ! ! :luvu:
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Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 06:20:16 PM
hmm...would we say that's late considering the tasks they have to do? I want to know if I should change my votes for my first round in the RFF TAR game!
well we still have to consider how many noodles they have to bamboo and also where the Mokes come into play  ???

eta: it would be funny of they had to deliver the Noodles with the Moke.

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Post by: Slowhatch on April 21, 2007, 07:48:41 PM
It's possible; at first I thought Charla might be holding a take-out plate, but thanks to the hi-res it looks like just a large map or stack of papers (that's not to say that the noodles might be in the moke).

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Post by: red_sox on April 21, 2007, 08:05:14 PM
If the noodles detour involves making more than one noodle thingy.. couldnt that mean that C/M are ahead of D/K.. Charla and Mirna could be beginning their second or third noodle whilst Dustin and Kandice finish their first  :jam:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 08:08:56 PM
If the noodles detour involves making more than one noodle thingy.. couldnt that mean that C/M are ahead of D/K.. Charla and Mirna could be beginning their second or third noodle whilst Dustin and Kandice finish their first  :jam:

Yes it could, but I doubt it  :snicker:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: the_headcrusher on April 21, 2007, 09:55:48 PM
Hi everyone :)
I was bored and decided to search for the elusive 'yellow brick road' in the C/M pic.  Couldn't find anything on google earth but here's a clear picture of a 'wavy road':
(http://www.twip.org/photo/asia/china/photo-5103-09-01-06-12-27-29.jpg)

If you search "portuguese architecture in Macau" in google images, there are quite a few pictures showing patterened roads. 

Neobie you mentioned that you can't see a run down place like the one in the C/M photo near a sightseeing place.  Vancouver's downtown east side is in the middle of the town and several tourist attractions is one of the worst places in North America for drugs/ poverty. 
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 11:15:13 PM
Well I don't remember what I was looking for but heres some pictures to add to the collection  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 11:23:55 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23969;image)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00464-17-2007.jpg)

I wonder if this might be where they go right after they get off the Ferry Terminal and then take one of these to the RB tower?

Oh, and did E/D just get here, I can't tell by their table ??? and do we think that C/M or D/K are there off camera in this shot?
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23833;image)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 11:32:02 PM
Hard to say..I can't see Eric's Bamboo nor Dee's noodle's :angel:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 21, 2007, 11:36:44 PM
 ???
maybe that yellow person we see is doing a demonstration and they are watching!

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 21, 2007, 11:48:11 PM
the thing that stands out the most to me is that there are vehicles where M/C are where as most of the wavy street scenes that I've seen are pedestrians only ...


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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 12:00:35 AM
Couple of questions: (and I'm working on a list of all the time-related stuff for this episode too--FWIW)

Why are E/D looking relaxed and happy here at the ferry?--since they were in last place arriving they should be hauling ass. If this a TBC and it is on the way BACK to HK airport....

When are E/D in a taxi? Must be in HK on the way to the ferry IMO because we see no other taxis in Macau. And that is not a Moke--someone is driving them.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 12:04:19 AM
Peach - we see D/K in a taxi in the web promo (kandice is doing some weird thing that makes her look like a fish ?) and I don't think that would be them on the way back to HK beacuse if it were a TBC episode it would end with which ever team gets to phil or the "keep racing" clue first...I don't think they've ever continued to show that team during a TBC episode until the following week. I'm guessing E/D are just having a laugh at something else
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 12:14:22 AM
Ok--forgot about BQ's in taxi--still think that may be in HK on the way TO the ferry...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 12:16:15 AM
Possibly, but we see the BQs reading the "caution yield ahead!" clue and it looks really early in the morning, but when they are in the taxi it looks like the sun (covered by clouds of course) is fully out
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 12:26:44 AM
TPTB are screwing with the lighting in these pics--filters I say!

Chateau's fame must have spread! :yess:

This (ferry I assume?) is where Mirna gets wet...

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 12:29:25 AM
 :lol3:
Poor Mirna!



if that's the ferry why wouldn't she be wet at the jump(in the pictures of her waiting for Charla she looks dry to me) but she looks wet at the detour?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 12:45:28 AM
Mirna does look wet at the detour ..imagine a hot sticky bakery, being wet and working with flour! EWWWW

E/D are wet here and Eric has something yellow..clue or paper? or map?

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Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 12:50:34 AM
Mirna's wipers are on here and a clear shot of the license plate which i'm not good at searching.
heh..I just noticed theres someone in C/M's car backing it up for them ..go figure :snicker:

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 22, 2007, 12:59:16 AM
Oh Mirna - you so craaaazy!

Anyhoo, so here's the order of things I've got on my "leg list".

Ferry > Yield (somewhere at Macau Tower where Chas get yielded) > Roadblock (pull a number - walk and jump) > Detour (E/D look like they're in first place to me - just guessing because of demonstrator) > Mat (Casa Gardens or Ruins of Saint Paul's Cathedral)

About the detour, I think it might be called "By boat, or By car" or "Paddle it, or Drive it" or "Bash it, or Beat it". I SUUUUCK! The only reason why I think that's the name is because it might be focused around the delivery phase of the task (noodles by car, drums by boat).

About the mat, have we already located the Pit Stop? I'll assume we haven't and say it's either the CASA GARDENS or the RUINS OF SAINT PAUL'S CATHEDRAL.

Also just a bit of trivia, there is only one Toys R Us store in Macau and it's an "express" one meaning it's quite small (unlike the ginormous ones at the malls).

lol tell me I'm slightly right on some things  B:)

Back to studying anatomy  (:;)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 01:00:23 AM
You see her arm in rhe car in this one...

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 01:01:36 AM
If the licence plate means anything it might be Avis
http://www.avis.com.mo/ leading back to the Mandarin Orientel Hotel again :crazy

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 01:09:55 AM
Down with alli-- :waves:

We made a list of things we know here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12018.msg184862.html#msg184862)...we know the tasks and the Pit-or-Mat stop.

But the order of the tasks Detours/Roadblocks/Mokes/Garden are TOTALLY up for grabs--I haven't changed them because I keep changing my mind!

Have a look and then tell us what you think...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 22, 2007, 01:15:14 AM
Down with alli-- :waves:

We made a list of things we know here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12018.msg184862.html#msg184862)...we know the tasks and the Pit-or-Mat stop.

But the order of the tasks Detours/Roadblocks/Mokes/Garden are TOTALLY up for grabs--I haven't changed them because I keep changing my mind!

Have a look and then tell us what you think...

It all seems to fall into place, however I still have an irking suspicion that the cars are used for the Noodle task.

Edit: where are my manners? THANKS PEACH!  :hearts:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 01:17:32 AM
OK, I am really leaning towards this being another NEL, with no TBC episode this year. I agree peach, my mind keeps changing on who's infront, what gets done when, etc...
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 01:19:25 AM
Gosh puddin--the more I think about it the more Q's I have!

Have teams ever had to rent their own cars? If provided, they could be anywhere.

Car rental can be done at the Mandarin or the Ferry Terminal.


I am slogging my way through the whole thread looking for time related stuff.

But I keep coming back to this picture as my biggest concern about the whole Ep.

Michael has convinced me that the clothes match here (not that they can't Do laundry and wear them again later but...)

If this is a confessional--how can it be a TBC?

If not a TBC--what?


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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 01:19:48 AM
check your messages peach  ;)

And my 2 cents fwiw, I concur ..no one gets eliminated :kogs
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 22, 2007, 01:29:12 AM
Gosh puddin--the more I think about it the more Q's I have!

Have teams ever had to rent their own cars? If provided, they could be anywhere.

Car rental can be done at the Mandarin or the Ferry Terminal.


I am slogging my way through the whole thread looking for time related stuff.

But I keep coming back to this picture as my biggest concern about the whole Ep.

Michael has convinced me that the clothes match here (not that they can't Do laundry and wear them again later but...)

If this is a confessional--how can it be a TBC?

If not a TBC--what?


Yeah I seem to get that they interchange between the pink T-shirts and the blue jumpers.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: makz3d on April 22, 2007, 03:52:18 AM
No, what I meant is like...only 3 teams aloud at the detour at once... ( i was making a comment on makz3d's comment)
Go figure  :snicker:
makz3d  if you read back we already discussed that E/D's station is out of sight in the Phil preview and their station is near the front.. by the windows. I'm not posting the pictures again....look back a few pages.

page 20
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg185132.html#msg185132


Okay, I've gone back for the hundredth time (really and truly hundreds of times  :lol:) and reread the messages from pg 20 to current.

I do not think the "station" by the windows in the front??????? is where E/D did noodles.  This doesn't look like a full setup as the station appears to be 2 parts and the extension is not on the station by the windows.  It's probably where they show how to mix and prepare the noodles.

I still feel that there are 3 stations and E/D haven't started.  I also feel there are 4 stations and the station E/D uses was not shown on camera.  There's a chance it's a 1st come, 1st serve (3 stations) however since only 3 teams are doing it it doesn't matter.  There's a chance there were 4 stations.  I have a 50/50 chance of being right.

I have skimmed and read this thread many times.  Right now I have an idea that I read, that I think was stated in this thread earlier in the week.  I can't find it.  I've done a search of all RFF.  But did the poster use K/D, BQ, BQ's, Beauty Queens, Queens, Dustin and Kandice, Dani/Eric, E/D, E/Dee.  I tried different names for these 2 teams and still can't find the message.

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 22, 2007, 09:19:11 AM
Hard to say..I can't see Eric's Bamboo nor Dee's noodle's :angel:

 :lol: Muchas cervezas and NASCAR ???  Gordon & 3  :yess: I don't know whose Bamboo it is but it's on that table and how could you miss Dani Girl's noodles?

eta:

Comparing these pics (on pg 20) the blue flour bowl here does not contain as much flour as the one on the table behind C/M's.   

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/00514-17-2007.jpg)

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11890.0;attach=23913;image)

Dustin appears to be ready to measure and/or finish rolling out and slice her noodle with the cleaver in front of her.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0007.jpg)

C/M's cleaver and measuring stick/roller are still on the far end of their table. It appears that the "YQ's" will finish ahead of C/M.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep11/20Apr0000.jpg)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: serendipity on April 22, 2007, 09:39:42 AM
Here are my thoughts..

1. Roadblock comes first after the clue at the ferry terminal. There should be bunching at the entrance, but I doubt that if E/D can make it before the opening, BECAUSE the tower might open earlier to avoid any tourists and not disturbing its usual opening hours, AND we haven't seen any pictures of E/D waiting outside the tower.

2. And the shot of E/D at the ferry terminal smiling may be because they are asking someone for help, either for money or direction. It seems no reason to stop at that point.

3. Teams probably would not take rickshaw to the tower because I feel that's no way to do this, because the road to the tower is probably only for cars, and it's quite far away I think (even 5 minutes by car).

4. D/K and C/M probably do the detour before E/D because it's not likely that 2 teams are far behind 1 team at this point of the race. (I don't know how to explain though, may be wishful thinking?!)

5. E/D smile at the detour maybe because they are watching the demonstration, and they have some funny or dirty thoughts in thier minds so they smile.  ;D

I really hope they go to the ruins of st. paul cathedral, it is the landmark of Macau!! Don't go to some unknown places like they did in Hong Kong! And why don't they go to any casino? I am wondering if they will go at the start of next leg?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on April 22, 2007, 10:12:26 AM
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while. My computer is giving me problems.

 :jumpy:HAPPY 1000TH POST MICHAEL!!!!! :jumpy:

Also, here's my take on the episode:


Thats my take on the episode. Like I said, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:47:16 AM
Thanks $HOP@HOL!C!

Now, the question of the day....to change my picks...or not to change???
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 22, 2007, 11:53:18 AM
A lot of unknowns, but the scenarios all make sense; you takes your pick.  The fact that it is raining is some scenes and not in the others throws the time lines out of wack.

My guess still remains that the Chas are Philiminated!  This is the eighth and final elimintion leg.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 12:04:01 PM
Sorry G-man but no one is Elim'd this week (based on no racers seen on TES)...

But last?? Guess we'll see!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 12:05:31 PM
I'm excited to watch it tonight  :jumpy:
You watch, the one week I didn't put D/K coming in first they will  (:;)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 01:14:16 PM
ahh predictions?
HK to Ferry to Macau
Clue-- Roadblock & Yield ahead
Roadblock--Towers--Hours of Operation--teams bunched--doors locked
Teams have time to deal--BQ's convince/Bribe Eric & Dee to Yield Danny/Oswald if they can get to the Yield first
Eric/Dee succeed an Yield D/O leaving them surprised  :o
order of the Roadblockers
Danielle
Dustin
Charla
Danny
Clue--detour
E/D, BQ's, C/M Make it and Moke it ( noodles )
Danny/Oswald Drum it and Deliver it

Pitstop Lou Lim Iok Garden ?
my order
E/D
BQ's
C/M
Cha's last but NEL << marked with penalty ( the Early Show info has been right on )
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 01:17:45 PM
I don't think the yield will be at the top of the tower where only one team at a time can go, because what if a yielded team goes up and has to wait for the yield to finish, wouldn't the team at the bottom also have to wait?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 01:18:14 PM
After searching our forum for semi-documented Timeline facts--this is what I have so far.

Last (HK) Pitstop arrivals (guess):

D/O seen suiting up for the RB at 2:02 PM (by watch)--maybe to Pitstop between 3-4?

 Ferries depart at 0130, 0200, 0400, 0445, 0600, 0700, 0730, 0800 and then every 15 minutes until 1800, and take approximately 55 minutes.


Quote from: mswood
Peach with Oswald and Danny just getting suited up for the Fast Forward at 2pm.  I would guess they check in at the Pit Stop between 2:45pm and 3:15pm.

So I think Dustin & Kandice should be much closer to an hour behind them, I still think at least.

With the Sunset being very near 5:40pm, I imagine the Dustin & Kandice checked in around 4pm to 4:30 pm.  With no real shadows or sun to judge angel, it still looks fairly well lite with cloud cover.Change BQ's to sometime after 5:20-5:30pm.

With Charla & Mirna who do the boat task after the sun has fully set, so I would guess they arrive at 6:30-7:00pm.

Eric & Danielle I would guess by the even darker stages of their progress between 7:30-8:30pm.

With a sunrise of 6:55 am for the next day (give or take a minhute or so.)
Let's allow each team a guess of 30 minutes to get to the ferry, and one hour on board. Based on probable ferry departures that means
D/O at Macau Ferry Terminal by 5:30 to 6:15AM
BQ's by 7-7:30
C/M by 8-8:30 ish
E/D by 9 to 10 ish

Time to tower--5 minutes by car--?maybe 15 minutes by rickshaw/pedicab?
Bunching
Tower:
SkyJump opens at 10
SkyWalk opens at 11

So based on the above guesstimated arrival times, doubtful that (IF the Tower is first) that E/D would be in position to Yield anyone...but D/O would be! Unless there is something they have to do after arriving at the Tower to grab the Yield and E/D are faster OMG my brain just exploded :lol:


But keep in mind that if this is a TBC, D/O will still have plenty of time to make other errors next week that result in them being in last place in Guam--they won't necessarily have to be last in this week's episode.

* One team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other team.
* Phil: and 2 teams strike a surprising deal to target another team with a Yield
               Hmmm...one deal or two?
Dustin Conf: We're going to race like were in last place.
VO: will another team except payment to help them?  (D/O may need extra $$)
Dustin: I was thinking about bribing them not to yield us
Based on arrival times to Tower--could be D/O +BQ's against E/D or C/M--E/D would make the most sense but would be fun to see Mirna's face!  OR it could be BQ's +E/D against C/M or D/O  :nut:

Timewasters:
C/M and the Moke
If O does the Tower--isn't he afraid of heights? That could slow things down...
Drum detour seems slower (if we assume D/O begin to fall behind this episode)
Who falls down--Dee or Mirna? Probably Dee)


Watch shots--ChateauTimes etc....

Dani takes a dive  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg185245.html#msg185245)3:20 to 4:40--probable Mat/TBC/NEL location

Tower times--

BQ's waiting at Tower/ToysRUs (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg185248.html#msg185248) = 8:30-9:30
Which matches Kandice's watch shot of about 9:30

Dustin praying  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg185233.html#msg185233) at the Tower at about noon

Charla in the rain doing the walk maybe 12:30 by weather report??

Noodle times:

E/D by the window (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184821.html#msg184821) 2:05 ChateauTime :tup:
E/D by the window Eric's watch time  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184828.html#msg184828)8:35--dead watch?? :lol:

Clock near Ch/M  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11890.msg184825.html#msg184825)12:50


So that all leaves us where?

Everyone will have to draw their own conclusions--

Right now I can TOTALLY convince myself of two equal but very opposite outcomes! Choose your stand!






















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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 01:23:49 PM
You know what it is, I think we are all thinking that just because D/O get eliminated next week they have to do badly this week and mess up. I think any of the teams can come in last and be NEL'd today.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 01:34:48 PM
That's what I think too--as ABSOLUTELY stupid two NEL's back-to-back would be or even a TBC with a MFE in place. Stupid CBS!

Although I don't quite understand how a MFE and a TBC would work--do you just take it with you ?

Time for a break--the more I think the worse it gets!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Chateau d If on April 22, 2007, 02:05:42 PM
I have a new guess to make in this shot where Eric's bamboo is seen laid out on the table. 
For some reason, I just don't know why  :angel:,  the name Maplethorp keeps coming to mind.

Oh, the guess...yes, I think they have just started at their table and they are laughing at Charla & Mirna.  I think they were the victims of the yield.  In this case the effect of the Yield is going to be softened due to the one-at-a-time trickle of teams through the Roadblock.  Each team's Roadblocker will have to sit through a safety lecture, suit up, and carry out the task.  If it is done sequentially then the team that has to wait 30 min at the yield will be only a few minutes minutes behind the third team to complete the Roadblock.  It's a Yield followed by a bottleneck.  So the last in line is just about as worst off as the sandwatching yieldees.



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Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 02:08:02 PM
I don't think the yield will be at the top of the tower where only one team at a time can go, because what if a yielded team goes up and has to wait for the yield to finish, wouldn't the team at the bottom also have to wait?

At first I thought this was a gift shop ..now I see it might be the skywalk gear..
Why can't both team members go up? Both go up one comes down to watch & Wait?
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Post by: gingerman28 on April 22, 2007, 02:49:14 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that although the "official hours of operation" may start at 11AM, TPTB have always managed to arrange their own "hours of operation" which are either before the venue opens officially or after the venue closes officially.  TPTB want the venue for their own lonesome selves. (And all the production crew necessary!).

Sorry, but I seemed to have missed any mention of T for Monday morning.  But if they do not list "the lastest eliminated team" from TAR, then most likely we do have a NEL OR TBC.  Has TAR ever had two NEL's back to back?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:08:25 PM
hmm, if that's the case then maybe the twoer will open at 9AM? or 10AM? Is there any way that Dustin's time when she is praying can be a little off Chateau, because I can't see how she can still be at the tower if the building/tower opens earlier then 11..
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Chateau d If on April 22, 2007, 03:18:28 PM
I'd put it between 11:40 am and 1:20 pm.  Kind of fuzzy.

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Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:19:58 PM
ok, thanks for the quick answer  :jumpy:

I guess we'll just have to wait and see until tonight to see how it all plays out...not long now  :ninja
...and then...two episodes left  :'(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Mich on April 22, 2007, 03:22:03 PM
After searching our forum for semi-documented Timeline facts--this is what I have so far.

Last (HK) Pitstop arrivals (guess):

D/O seen suiting up for the RB at 2:02 PM (by watch)--maybe to Pitstop between 3-4?

 Hi, Where does it show D/O suited up for RB? And why do most everyone think D/E come in first? Couldn't whoever comes in after them take more than 30 minutes?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:24:15 PM
Hey  Mich , welcome  :wohoo: - I think there are a lot of things pointing to an E/D first finally. But yes, you are right, just because they are MFE and we know they don't get eliminated we are looking at it like if they don't come in first they will be screwed I guess.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Mich on April 22, 2007, 03:33:18 PM
I think I PMed you by mistake.
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Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:34:38 PM
hmm...I have nothing in my inbox so I don't think you did  :lol:
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Post by: Mich on April 22, 2007, 03:37:58 PM
My 1st post ? got put in the quote box then I know I PMed someone; hopefully I'll figure it out someday.
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Post by: Rob on April 22, 2007, 03:44:01 PM
Welcome Mich. If you need any help, I would be happy to help in support.

Looking forward to tonight show, and you guys do great work here! Keep it up!

Rob
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Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 03:46:02 PM
Welcome Mich  :waves:
20 some pages and none of us agree on anything  :lol:
Back to TBC or NEL..
I guess it is possible to be a TBC like someone suggested pages ago? Could be the teams get a clue that tells them to wait for HoursOfOperation somehwhere and thats where and how it would explain the BQ's confessional? Hold up in a hotel somewhere in Macau. But we whats bugging me is the sighting of Phil with the Cha's grabbing a ferry ride back to HK the next day.
Why is Phil there? Why isn't he ahead of the teams? I don't know? We're missing a key and my mind can't sort it out  :crazy ..
I predict someone will be right about one of the scenarios posted in the 20 some pages in this thread. :snicker:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:47:55 PM
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I predict someone will be right about one of the scenarios posted in the 20 some pages in this thread.

Me too!  :lol3:

I'm guessing the NEL tonight would explain BVMs comment because usually there aren't this many, are there?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Mich on April 22, 2007, 03:52:31 PM
I'm beginning to think that O/D Yield E/D  and it's a TBC. Does that rhyme?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
I'm beginning to think that O/D Yield E/D  and it's a TBC. Does that rhyme?

...not really :lol3: LOL

 :groan: this episode is driving me crazy.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: anon1akacolby on April 22, 2007, 04:39:53 PM
Didn't Izad or Romeo say that the Malaysia leg was supposed to be a NEL but b/c Uchenna and Joyce were so far behind the other teams that they decided to make it a NEL?  Perhaps that explains why we are having two back-to-back NEL in HK and Macau?

Let's say the last legs were supposed to be

Krakow Poland - Elim
malaysia - NEL
HK -  Elim
Macau - NEL
Guam - Elim
Hawaii/SF - race to the finish line

BUT since U/J had the bad luck to fall behind a significant amount of time, that screwed up the remaining legs.  Therefore, changing the Malaysia leg to an Elim and the HK leg to a NEL (in order to keep the integrity of the race they still need to have the NEL), then the last legs end up as:

Malaysia - Elim
HK - NEL
Macau - NEL
Gaum - Elim
Hawaii/SF - race to the finish line

This would explain why we are having a rather odd NEL back-to-back where we wouldn't normally have something occur like that.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

good job to everyone pouring through the vidcaps and doing the research on the leg!  It's been great to follow along and read it all.  I enjoy watching the show and thinking back to the spoiling threads here and say, "yeah, so-and-so figure that out on RFF!"   :js:


Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 22, 2007, 05:19:43 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that although the "official hours of operation" may start at 11AM, TPTB have always managed to arrange their own "hours of operation" which are either before the venue opens officially or after the venue closes officially.  TPTB want the venue for their own lonesome selves. (And all the production crew necessary!).

Sorry, but I seemed to have missed any mention of T for Monday morning.  But if they do not list "the lastest eliminated team" from TAR, then most likely we do have a NEL OR TBC.  Has TAR ever had two NEL's back to back?
G-Man we ahve had a few cases of having Non Eliminations back to back.

Season 3's episodes 8 & 9 were both non eliminations.
Season 5's episodes 8 & 9 both were non eliminations.

But both of those were before the new 30 minute rule.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 22, 2007, 05:28:00 PM
That's what I think too--as ABSOLUTELY stupid two NEL's back-to-back would be or even a TBC with a MFE in place. Stupid CBS!

Although I don't quite understand how a MFE and a TBC would work--do you just take it with you ?

Time for a break--the more I think the worse it gets!

Actually having a non elimination before a TBC leg isn't hard to do.

It again just means as Phil's say's that a team must arrive at the Pit Stop in first place or take a 30 minute penalty before checking in.

Which in Episode terms lets pretend it happens and episode 10 was the non elimination leg and Eric & Danielle get in last.

So episode 11 is the first part of a TBC leg.  Which doesn't end in a pit Stop just a notice either in person by Phil or by clue to keep racing.  End of episode.

Episode 12 would be the conclusion to the TBC leg and would end in a Pit Stop.  THat is where Eric & Danielle would need to arrive first or suffer the 30 minute penalty.

It would be harder and more stressful for the team marked for elimination, but I like it.  I have always argued (even for teams I like) that it shouldn't be easy to survivee in the race after a non elimination.  You should have to prove that you are good racers.

Now for the other situation, having 2 Non eliminations in a row, really except for one thing isn't difficult.

The only wrinkle in this one is what happens if you are the last team to arrive.  Do you get it with an hour penality for the next one (which I can leave with again, it shouldn't be easy), or is it basically a free pass to Eric & Danielle and they would really only have to worry about their placement in leg 12.  That to me is stupid and dumb.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 05:39:39 PM
Thanks mswood! I was wondering the same thing as G-man. I wonder if TPTB ever thought the same team could come in last twice in a row...

The sighting of the Cha's with Phil on 12/14 is very worrying re an elim in my mind. We know elim'd teams are travelling with production at this point, so that's an easy answer as to why they could be there. That plus the BQ's in a hotel room all suggest elim but TES info suggests not--so what to believe?? Maybe Phil was just running behind :lol: ...I think we are going to be surprised tonight!

Welcome Mich! :waves:
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Hi, Where does it show D/O suited up for RB? And why do most everyone think D/E come in first? Couldn't whoever comes in after them take more than 30 minutes?
The suiting up was for the FF last week, not this week's RBlock--sorry to be confusing.
And if you want to know if you sent a PM--click on My messages--then out box and it should show you!

Great eye on that pic puddin--it really does look like the suits. And maybe the picture in the window is one of those souvenir pics "I survived the Tower" kind of thing.

And I think Dustin is praying "please don't yield us"...or maybe thank goodness I survived that!

I hope we have some things right and aren't completely bamboozled! Less than 2 hours to go and I STILL haven't made up my mind on who Yields who! Oh, well....listen for the screams coming from my house soon!

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2007, 05:53:20 PM
I think that thing on the left is one of those scopes used on observation decks. This cap is from the tower's virtual tour.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 06:06:05 PM
If the yield is up on the observation deck it may all boil down to a foot race as to who gets there first--and E/D are fast...they just might not have had a lot of time to hang around and make deals ahead of time due to their later arrival at the Tower.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Chateau d If on April 22, 2007, 09:31:40 PM
I have a new guess to make in this shot where Eric's bamboo is seen laid out on the table. 
For some reason, I just don't know why  :angel:,  the name Maplethorp keeps coming to mind.

Oh, the guess...yes, I think they have just started at their table and they are laughing at Charla & Mirna.  I think they were the victims of the yield.  In this case the effect of the Yield is going to be softened due to the one-at-a-time trickle of teams through the Roadblock.  Each team's Roadblocker will have to sit through a safety lecture, suit up, and carry out the task.  If it is done sequentially then the team that has to wait 30 min at the yield will be only a few minutes minutes behind the third team to complete the Roadblock.  It's a Yield followed by a bottleneck.  So the last in line is just about as worst off as the sandwatching yieldees.



HA !

Remember my prediction!    :happy:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 09:39:48 PM
Thanks Chateau --I stuck with you across the boards and now I'm a happy girl!   :hfive: :hfive:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 09:44:58 PM
 :ninja

I had a gut feeling that D/K would come in first this week!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 22, 2007, 09:55:45 PM
OK we all have got this out of our system; everyone did good.  And Michael must be a happy fella with his gals in first place. But the poor dears never win something exotic like a trip to paradise (maybe with Michael as guide); they just win stuff.

D/O's lack of a sense of direction came home to haunt them again.  They were at the boat dock but couldn't remember how they got there when they had to return again with the drum etc. Not too bright.  Now they will be running behind on the leg to Guam, but most likely a bunch up so everyone gets on the same flight.  Not too many I would think between Hong Kong and Guam.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 10:02:07 PM
You did GREAT Chateau  :hearts: :jam:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
You did GREAT Chateau  :hearts: :jam:

Yeah, you did!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:15:14 PM
Am I the only one who knew as soon as the "previously on the amazing race" that D/O were the YIELDERS this leg, because all the focus on them having no money?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 10:18:35 PM
Yeah they were hinting towards that Michael..and now that the episode is over I don't feel as much love for the Cha's as in the past and am glad they don't make the final 3. Sorry to the Cha fans  :waves:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:20:08 PM
I have to say, I wasn't much of a cha fan this season either, I mean, in TAR2 I loved them, but this season I just found them SLIGHTLY annoying....still would have liked them in the F3 a long with Dustin and Kandice.

Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 22, 2007, 10:21:54 PM
Am I the only one who knew as soon as the "previously on the amazing race" that D/O were the YIELDERS this leg, because all the focus on them having no money?

Bullshit. You were saying all along that EDEE and the Yield Queens would make a deal and that they would be the most hated teams in TAR history.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 10:40:57 PM
I have to say, I wasn't much of a cha fan this season either, I mean, in TAR2 I loved them, but this season I just found them SLIGHTLY annoying....still would have liked them in the F3 a long with Dustin and Kandice.


Why?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:44:32 PM
Why would I like them in the F3 along with D/K?
I don't know exactly, but I think the best F3 would be D/K, D/O, E/D - one type of each kind of team (ff, mm, mf)
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2007, 10:57:45 PM
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Why?

Because they are funny, they make me smile, they are unfailing kind and polite to the people they meet along they way (rare taxi driver excepted  ;)), they clearly appreciate the race and take time to enjoy the places and the people along the way, they never would dream of degrading each other and rarely (maybe twice this whole race?) even became irritated with each other, and did I mention they make me happy? Nice people that I would love to welcome into my life.

Plus there is the whole I want to be BFF with Oswald  :luvu:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 22, 2007, 10:59:46 PM
I noticed that D/K and D/O race similarly, they both rarely lose patience with each other and seem to support each other regardless of what is happening. C/M and E/D have more of a "real" situation in my opinion because I know if I were on the race I wouldn't be able to keep my cool under such stressfull situations!
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 11:06:29 PM
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Why?

Because they are funny, they make me smile, they are unfailing kind and polite to the people they meet along they way (rare taxi driver excepted  ;)), they clearly appreciate the race and take time to enjoy the places and the people along the way, they never would dream of degrading each other and rarely (maybe twice this whole race?) even became irritated with each other, and did I mention they make me happy? Nice people that I would love to welcome into my life.

Plus there is the whole I want to be BFF with Oswald  :luvu:
lol i didn't ask you  :lol:

Where is Triho de Taipa pequena 2000? Google isn't picking it up?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2007, 11:22:26 PM
This is all I could find (source (http://www.macautourism.gov.mo/en/discovering/sightseeing_detail.php?catid=42)). With a little work I might be able to reconcile it with GE.
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Taipa Island′ s two highest hills, Taipa Grande and Taipa Pequena, are circled by nature trails which provide panoramic views of the entire Macau area. The Taipa Grande trail is reached by way of a short paved road off the Estrada Colonel Nicolau de Mesquita, near the United Chinese Cemetery. Adjacent to the trail on the east side of Taipa Grande, near the airport, is the Taipa Grande Nature Park. The Taipa Pequena trail can be accessed from the Estrada Lou Lim Ieoc, behind the Regency Hotel. Bicycles for touring the islands are available from a rental kiosk near the bus stop adjacent to Museum of Taipa and Coloane History in Taipa Village.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2007, 11:36:50 PM
Thank you Slowhatch  :kissy:

I was trying to match this up

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 23, 2007, 12:01:57 AM
There are two hills in Taipa, and according to this map (http://www.traveltext.cooloola.net/images/taipa_macau1.jpg) Pequena is the one on the left; the pitstop should be somewhere in this park.

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 12:10:43 AM
Oh it really is a small Island! The confessional could be new but doesn't look like Guam, to me anyway  ??? I guess I have to check all the Cha confessionals again or just wait for tomorrow to see if any more chats are put up on cbs.
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 12:15:41 AM
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 12:19:25 AM
Anyone with good res theres a good shot of Erics watch if someone could grab it?

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Big Papi on April 23, 2007, 12:28:43 AM
We're still in it puddin  :keeta: Monkey "Business" and all. Haven't told you lately that YOU are the BESTEST NICEST and also IMPARTIAL MODERATOR on ANY AR Board so there, I've said it.   Good Night   :kuss:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 23, 2007, 12:30:09 AM
Does anyone have a better cap than this? When I googled "taipa pequena," I came across several instances of the word trilho, meaning "trail." Could CBS have gotten it wrong?

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Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 12:30:23 AM
Eric's watch acted broken in the noodle shots...or we couldn't see straight! :lol:
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Post by: down_with_alli on April 23, 2007, 12:35:30 AM
See, now THIS is the thing I was talking about that would make some of the viewers root for E/D just that little bit more (the only people who need to be yielded twice are The Weavers).

They've proven to be really good racers, even with all their terrible luck.

They deserve to win.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 23, 2007, 12:35:53 AM
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Why?

Because they are funny, they make me smile, they are unfailing kind and polite to the people they meet along they way (rare taxi driver excepted  ;)), they clearly appreciate the race and take time to enjoy the places and the people along the way, they never would dream of degrading each other and rarely (maybe twice this whole race?) even became irritated with each other, and did I mention they make me happy? Nice people that I would love to welcome into my life.

Plus there is the whole I want to be BFF with Oswald  :luvu:

Actually on this team (who I do like a lot and wish were in the finally three with Eric & Danielle and Dustin & Kandice), I think its really hard to see how upset they are.  I think they have been more upset then some realize.

We have seen them in much worse moods to locals, to each other this season then in 2.  From cussing out racers (using the worst language of the season and doing it very loudly and in public), calling one of them an stubborn SOB, to calling a local a loser, to insulting the cab driver by talking about killing him (that was  faily uncool), to on clips for this episode insulting the language abilities of the people of Macau and their ability to speak Portugeese and chinese (whichi s really surprising something they normally wouldn't do), as well as hoping to never see the place again.  I think in many ways they have bickered a lot like Eric & Danielle, but I also think they have had two episodes of really having troubles getting along and being upset at each other.

But when things are good, things are golden.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 12:39:37 AM
Eric's watch acted broken in the noodle shots...or we couldn't see straight! :lol:
:lol: Well it must be working because he was timing the penalty?
We're still in it puddin  :keeta: Monkey "Business" and all. Haven't told you lately that YOU are the BESTEST NICEST and also IMPARTIAL MODERATOR on ANY AR Board so there, I've said it.   Good Night   :kuss:
Ohh Papi :luvu: I HEART you back  :hearts:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 12:42:45 AM
On the innertube video--had the hourglass really run out before they noticed?? I couldn't tell on my screen.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: michael on April 23, 2007, 12:43:51 AM
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They've proven to be really good racers, even with all their terrible luck.

They deserve to win.

They really, really do have horrible luck and are lucky to have over come it, I just wish they would have settled for a nice second, and pray that they do. (Sorry big papi, but I have to stay loyal!)

PS - guys, there's a heat weave in Toronto and it's so hot in my house right now and I can't sleep  :'(
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 23, 2007, 12:47:57 AM
Anyone with good res theres a good shot of Erics watch if someone could grab it?
Well I watched my copy Puddin and I can see two lines can't tell hour or minute hand (or if he has a hand for seconds), but it looks like one is between the 9 and 10, and one is close to the 1.

So I guess either 15-10 til 1.  Which seems like not near enough time.

Or 15-to 10 til 2pm

So I but it is a guess, I want beablet o check better until I get it coverted to DVD where I can frame search.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 23, 2007, 12:50:13 AM
On the innertube video--had the hourglass really run out before they noticed?? I couldn't tell on my screen.
Nope in the clip of them making fun of Danny's sheer bathing suit (Yikes also mentioned by other teams before or by Danny & Oswald can't remember) there is still sand, its has about a 1/3 or a 1/4 left in in.  But there is a lot of glare and you really have to look to see it.
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: down_with_alli on April 23, 2007, 12:53:38 AM
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They've proven to be really good racers, even with all their terrible luck.

They deserve to win.

They really, really do have horrible luck and are lucky to have over come it, I just wish they would have settled for a nice second, and pray that they do. (Sorry big papi, but I have to stay loyal!)

PS - guys, there's a heat weave in Toronto and it's so hot in my house right now and I can't sleep  :'(

Lucky to overcome horrible luck? lol  :jam:

I think another factor that really helps them is that they don't implode.

That's why I really like the F3, they're all VERY aggressive racers who lay it all out when the odds are against them.  B:)

A bit to many cliche's in that sentence but meh, que sera sera.  :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: mswood on April 23, 2007, 12:54:41 AM
Also about his watch.  We need to remember that it is working since he was keeping track of penalty (you even see him check it before getting on the mat. But it doesn't mean the hour and time changes are accurate to beable to track a penalty.

Also curious with roughly an hour to make up in penalties, has any team ever had to make up that much time in penalties over the seasons?
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: Slowhatch on April 23, 2007, 09:12:23 AM
It was trilho. And the editors were looking right at it. And production was there. Sheesh.  :groan:

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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 09:20:09 AM
 :yess: Did they forget to show us something? C/M's sidewalk!


  "Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams make their way to a Route Marker in the fishing village of Coloane, China, where they pick-up a basket of fish, take it to a shop and hang their fish to dry to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, which airs Sunday, April 22nd
 
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 09:25:07 AM
Clock

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Post by: michael on April 23, 2007, 09:26:43 AM
LMAO, Charla's face is hilarious
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 09:32:29 AM
one more and one for Michael

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
Love the clock! :hearts:

A whole missing task? Darn--I would have loved to see that one! Doesn't quite look like our screencap fishies though...
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Post by: michael on April 23, 2007, 09:35:06 AM
Thanks Puddin, these are awesome (and not just the ones of D/K)  :kissy:
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Post by: Big Papi on April 23, 2007, 09:35:41 AM
Praying to the Yield Gods  ???

If you can't find it nobody will puddin  :waves:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: gingerman28 on April 23, 2007, 09:38:35 AM
:yess: Did they forget to show us something? C/M's sidewalk!


  "Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams make their way to a Route Marker in the fishing village of Coloane, China, where they pick-up a basket of fish, take it to a shop and hang their fish to dry to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, which airs Sunday, April 22nd
 


Just another example of having too much good stuff to show.  Remember the TeePee in Canada?
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 10:22:57 AM
I've  sent an email to the Macau Dragon Boat Club asking if they have any information. :lol:

And just heard back!

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Dear Ms. Peach
The file you sent us is not very clear so it is hard for us to say which event it is from.
We can only say that it is either from the 2006 Macau International Dragon Boat Races or the 7th Asian Dragon Boat Championship also held in 2006 in Macau.
We hope this information is of any use.

 Best regards,

Macau Sport Development Board

Too little --too late-- but I'm applying for the Foreign Correspondent position at RFF anyway! :lol:
Title: Re: EP11: "Good Doing Business with You."
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 05:51:23 PM
It was trilho. And the editors were looking right at it. And production was there. Sheesh.  :groan:
The CBS  (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race11/shows/ep10/index2.shtml) webisite calls it Triho de Taipa Pequena 2000.  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 05:58:04 PM
webpage  (http://www.cityguide.gov.mo/tg/detail.asp?lc=0&lkey=02080300000000000000&ClassName=health)

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
I think the Pit Stop is here.  It's too blurry to tell for sure.  But the Macao buildings and the Tower can be seen in the show as well as a tall building right behind Phil.

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 08:02:15 PM
And the Dragon Detour docks were under construction for the GE image.  But this is where they would be, goint by the buildings shown in the background.

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 08:06:45 PM
And I have looked in Coloane for the those curvy pavement lines.  Nothing.  There is not much to the town.  I checked all of it and could not find any buildings to match the shots. 

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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 08:13:13 PM
I'll be damned if I can find that building anywhere on the internet Chateau  :lol: ..thank you much  :kissy:
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 23, 2007, 09:17:03 PM
The old port at Coloane has the same pavement design; the fish market might be nearby (see here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blythely_jean/361249044/)).
On a different topic, the mokes were provided by "agencia de viagens e tourismo vit macau," but when you track that down (http://www.macautourism.gov.mo/pt/info/travelagency.php) it turns out to be plain ol' Avis.  ;D

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Post by: gingerman28 on April 23, 2007, 10:18:13 PM
Anyone with good res theres a good shot of Erics watch if someone could grab it?
Well I watched my copy Puddin and I can see two lines can't tell hour or minute hand (or if he has a hand for seconds), but it looks like one is between the 9 and 10, and one is close to the 1.

So I guess either 15-10 til 1.  Which seems like not near enough time.

Or 15-to 10 til 2pm

So I but it is a guess, I want beablet o check better until I get it coverted to DVD where I can frame search.

I freeze-framed all the shots with Eric and there is too much glare on the watch face to be able to determine exactly what time he has on his watch.  In the process of looking at watches it is interesting to note that in the shots of Mirna at the wheel of the Avis Mini you can see her wristwatch up pretty close, BUT  and this is nasty, TPTB have had the face of the watch obliterated with a black glob which makes it impossible to read the watch face when it is facing toward you!  Obviously TPTB are now going out of their ways to keep vital information from the TAR detectives on this site. 
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 10:25:25 PM
I hate when they do that!

Thanks Slowhatch.  From your pic at least I found were the pavement is by that pier.

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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 10:28:08 PM
^^ I think they blob them out too Gman   :meow:
I'm so looking forward to mswoods time-line..I've rewatched the last 30 minutes over and over and there is for sure some funky editing going on. I'm map handicapped..would the fish task have been before the Detour or after before the Pitstop?
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 10:33:09 PM
Okay, thanks to Slowhatch's link we have it:

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Post by: michael on April 23, 2007, 10:34:27 PM
wow - great work guys!
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 10:35:34 PM
I keep telling y'all--TPTB are on to Chateau!  

Special camera filters to block the sunlight, little balls of light, blobbed out watches--his fame has spread far and wide--just look at the effort they've had to go to to avoid his eagle eye!

Here's a map of the three islands--maybe that will help everybody picture it!

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 23, 2007, 10:39:49 PM
Awww Thanks Peach.

BTW I think you need to up date your map !  Check this out:

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 10:45:13 PM
Sheesh--that gives land fill new meaning entirely! :rotf:

"Islands come and go so quickly here!" in Oz...

thanks Chateau!  who knew?! Y'all need to come straighten me out over in Maps! more often! :lol:


So would the pinky building be the one Ch/M were in front of? This is amazing to be able to do this!
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 10:47:24 PM
I'm not map worthy either peach  :lol:
Good job Slowhatch & Chateau  :nana
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2007, 10:48:57 PM
goind directly to maps to edit!
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Post by: puddin on April 23, 2007, 11:36:37 PM
I'm still looking for the noodle place with no luck.
Edificio Fabril Veng Kin

as good as it gets for me anyway:
地址:

Praceta de Venceslau de Morais Edificio Fabril Veng Kin 3,D  (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://ibdaily.mofcom.gov.cn/show.asp%3Fid%3D34766&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dedif%25C3%25ADcio%2B%2B%2Bfabril%2Bkin%2Bmacau%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_enUS207US208) ... 地址: K19&K20,NOVELTY LANE MACAU LANDMARK,AVENIDA DA AMIZA ...
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 12:16:14 AM
I heard the BQ's ask their taxi for the SNEF (?) building on the way to the noodles?

It is in part 2 at about 5:30...
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Post by: michael on April 24, 2007, 12:26:13 AM
Yup, peach is right, they say we are going to he S-N-E-F building.

The building that D/K and C/M go into to do the noodles task has English writing on top of the Chinese writing, and it says "edificio fabril veng kin", but I just saw that puddin seems to have found this already!
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 12:33:18 AM
Singapore National Employers Federation (SNEF)

maybe the noodle shop is next to it or something--unless it is in the union headquarters!
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 12:39:15 AM
and here is a list of noodle supply stores

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Post by: Slowhatch on April 24, 2007, 12:55:47 AM
Peach has got it, it's the address in the middle (sopa de fita wang kei).  :tup:

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 01:01:28 AM
I actually think puddin had it in Portuguese! (I feel Oswald's frustration!)

So how did you know which of the 13 it was--any relation to the SNEF building? Was that pic on the show?

nevermind--just saw Michael's edited post!

See--it "takes a village" around here! :lol:

I didn't know WHAT I had! ??? :lol:
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 24, 2007, 01:05:39 AM
The backpack you see is the BQ's going through the door. I had less luck with the dragon-head factory; the script was unreadable.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 01:08:44 AM
Thanks!

Do we know when the fishy task was?

All I can think of is before the noodles based on Mirna's wet hair...
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 24, 2007, 01:14:23 AM
I'll look around...
In the meantime, have racers ever been issued box lunches before?  :lol:

ETA: it's not after the mokes. You can see racers mouth the words Taipa, pitstop, etc.

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Post by: Chateau d If on April 24, 2007, 01:55:29 AM
It's after the Roadblock.

Here is when Danny should have noticed the Dragon Boats.   :snicker:

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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 09:46:29 AM
Good job everyone  :yess: :wtg:
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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 10:52:20 AM
fwiw this is how CBS describes the Noodle task ..not that it makes a difference.
"Good Doing Business With You" -- Teams perform Detour "Compete" ( Dragon "incomplete") in which they must make 2 bundles of noodles by hand before the machine produces 200 bundles in order to receive their next clue.

Phil never says that in the description and also calls the task  "noodles"

heres the video about 4:40 in

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Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2007, 11:08:56 AM
What machine?! :meow: Strange!

I guess when they reviewed the footage they knew they had comedy gold and cut something. Or maybe not--because we never had any inkling from the teams that they were racing a machine...so maybe they changed it during the test-out-the-task phase?

Making notes to ask somebody at TARcon...
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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 11:12:42 AM
Maybe its just me but I had the feeling that the guy that gave the " its okay" clue at the noodles liked the Boobies aka Dani/BQ's better than C/M :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on April 24, 2007, 07:09:12 PM
I saw this frag of a clue in the show as was wondering how team could have made 200 bundles in such short time.  Thanks Puddin for bringing that info about the noodle machine.

Also, Puddin, where did you get those missing task photos from?  I tried to find them at CBS.  Not there.

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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 08:45:58 PM
The pictures came from CBS Press Chateau..good job on the clue  :yess:

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Post by: rottenchestnut on April 24, 2007, 11:07:05 PM
Just my guess that the missing "Salted Fish" task, could it be on next episode? Sometimes Teams must complete one task before flying to other places.  :reading:
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Post by: puddin on April 24, 2007, 11:35:26 PM
^^ the picture date properties are all for the same date, Fish/Noodles/Dragon/Tower etc ...
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Post by: michael on April 24, 2007, 11:36:12 PM
Also all the clothes/hair style are the same!
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Post by: mswood on April 25, 2007, 06:45:02 PM
Plus the fish task is just a few miles away from the Pit Stop.  With no change in clothes and looking roughly the same type of weather and the same basic time of day.  It really only fits with it occuring in the last episode.  But the task and drving (with proper navigation probably took less then an hour total.
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Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 11:15:56 PM
I don't understand this picture:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/michael_dimech15/95833_D1159b.jpg)

Didn't we see a shot of all the teams running and grabbing the numbers?!
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2007, 11:19:51 PM
No picture showing for me?
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Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 11:21:24 PM
What about now?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2007, 11:22:31 PM
 :tup:

They are looking at it like it might bite! :lol:
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Post by: michael on May 13, 2007, 11:25:11 PM
 :rotf:
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Post by: Neobie on June 28, 2007, 10:38:16 PM
Really great job guys! (A whole month late I guess?) :waves:

But I was just looking at the timeline... Does anyone know where the Dragon Boat task started? (Will try to hunt down everything when I hop over to Macau tomorrow for a day trip...)
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Post by: Slowhatch on June 28, 2007, 11:22:30 PM
You mean where D/O picked up the dragon heads/drums? Phil only described it as a "warehouse." The caps are a little fuzzy because the camera was doing one of those rapid zoom shots.

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Post by: puddin on June 28, 2007, 11:39:50 PM
Oh have fun Neobie!! Your so lucky!!