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Title: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 05:12:19 PM
03/25 "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."

Bringing this over from the IGN interview  (http://tv.ign.com/articles/765/765692p1.html)
We were in Africa, and the Pit Stop location had to get moved because of logistics. We'd taken a flight to the next location, packed up about forty bags into a propeller charter flight and flew two hours to the next location. As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all. There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Ray! on March 15, 2007, 06:39:12 AM
Looks like they're still in AFrica by Leg 6...
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 10:55:11 AM
These introcap flashs might? belong here?

10. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_10.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/10.jpg) 16. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_16.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/16.jpg) Boingo: First glance suggests Masai Tribesmen (Tanzania/Kenya region)

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: cinni on March 15, 2007, 11:44:56 AM
03/25 "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
want to bet someone says this to charla or mirna?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 15, 2007, 11:44:09 PM
Most probably the quote is said to a lady... by someone from the last place team? That is, if Episode 5 was a NEL, and the "No money from Phil" rule was brought back and applied to the last place team.

Or, no money was given at the start of the leg, and ala Duke/Lauren, one team was too careless when it came to their money and they were short of cash? If this was the case, and Teri/Ian had not been spending their money wisely, then it could be a reason why they're eliminated here... if Episode 5 was a NEL, that is.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2007, 06:55:23 PM
When I was travelling in the wilds of Africa (in my younger days ;)), my friend was offered a pretty good trade of some rather fine camels and a few goats in exchange for me at one point...(a little later and he might have taken them up on it! :rotf:) 

So maybe it is something like that? Maybe the Masai really want Charla?! Or their own personal BQ! :happy:

Or maybe just a joke in response to the whole bargaining --trade culture there. I have a very nice carved sculpture that I got in "trade" for a pair of sunglasses...
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 16, 2007, 08:13:12 PM
It's an interesting idea, Peach, because the Maasai (intro caps) still practice the reverse dowry or "bride-price." A Maasai man can have more than one wife as long as he can pull the cows out of his wallet. (for Charla and Mirna, though, there would have to be an agreement up front: all sales final, no refunds or exchanges  :happy:)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2007, 08:26:43 PM
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(for Charla and Mirna, though, there would have to be an agreement up front: all sales final, no refunds or exchanges  :happy: )

Slowhatch! :cow

 :lol: :lol3: :lol:

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: NDIrish on March 18, 2007, 05:10:16 PM

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 ??? I can't make out the wording on this one...what does it say? Can this picture be zoomed bigger?

What is that on the sketch of the arm?  The medical side of me looks at it as an anatomical drawing with veins and artries...but then it could be a sketch of some kind of skin markings....maybe someone from each team is going to have to get that on their arm?

I'm old enough to remember the old game show Concentration but if it's the one drawing plus the other drawing (plus the words) to solve what it says, I need a bigger photo.

It may not be something significant but it's a way of wasting some time before tonight's show (ep 5) comes on, especially if it's running late.   :trampb:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 05:37:56 PM
Just click the picture NDIrish, its a thumbnail and try this thread, the introflashs  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11561.0.html) for more info on the heena painting and hair plating  ;D
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: NDIrish on March 18, 2007, 06:56:55 PM
Just click the picture NDIrish, its a thumbnail and try this thread, the introflashs  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11561.0.html) for more info on the heena painting and hair plating  ;D


 :thankyou:  Oh thanks Puddin!  In some of the pictures in the past episodes, I've tried doing that and they didn't enlarge (they might not have been your pictures), so I didn't try doing that this time. :rolleyes
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 08:45:51 PM
Where are you Slowhatch?  :yess:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 08:46:35 PM
I'm surprised U/J aren't doing a FF
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 08:47:36 PM
I suspect (but can't prove) that these two caps might be the same place. The background looks similar, but I've drawn a blank looking through Maasai photos.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 08:49:36 PM
Oh wow ...

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 18, 2007, 08:50:30 PM
I'm surprised U/J aren't doing a FF

The thing about the Fast Forward is you have to be the first to get to it.

Look at last season, the team that was twice marked for elimination on episodes right before the Fast Forwards were available were to slow to get to it on one time.  ANd only got to do it the 2cd time, because the Cho's convinced the BQ's that if they didn't bea the Cho's getting their they would lose time backtracking.  And even then teh Cho's had to decide to let Mary & David go for it.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 08:51:27 PM
Being pulled off the plane when you already have a seat!! That really sucks big time!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 18, 2007, 08:52:03 PM
Yeah, I do wonder about what could have caused that.

Has a team ever been asked, or made to leave a plane before in the show's history?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 08:53:03 PM
I wonder why they need to get off the plane, that's strange...Oh god, the previews always make me want the next 7 days to go by quickly.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 08:54:58 PM
The flag on the plane is Malawi.


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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 08:55:20 PM
If they are really in Tanzania (not that we would know from the stingy darn previews!) and with the Masai--a Fast Forward could be to drink cow milk and blood--a Masai diet staple....
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Rob on March 18, 2007, 08:58:21 PM
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 09:01:10 PM
I wonder if U/J don't come in first, but T/I are so far behind that they end up getting eliminated.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 18, 2007, 09:02:06 PM
Could be that the TPTB did not want one team to gain a huge lead on the others and arranged to have them pulled off the plane.  Never underestimate the power of TPTB!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 09:02:37 PM
Malawi is very nearby ...

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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 09:03:46 PM
Uchenna: my father's from Nigeria

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 09:08:04 PM
I'm not 100 % sure yet about the date December 2nd, but here are flights to the Malawi capital Lilongwe through Jburg.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 09:08:58 PM
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Life expectancy: 40 years (men), 40 years (women) (UN)


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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
Puddin, she's at it again   :lol:

Sorry Peach!  Keep it coming!

 :tup:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 18, 2007, 09:36:56 PM
The planes of air malawi have gone through a few redesigns--I finally found a photo with the matching flag/url design here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1141338&size=L&width=1024&height=699&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22nve%22%20%2B%22znynjv%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=4). The schedule is a little puzzling (if I'm reading the route map (http://www.airmalawi.com/content/schedules_int_map.html#) correctly); planes leaving Maputo have to go through Nampula to get to anywhere else.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 09:54:36 PM
I'll give you a hint on how I recognized the Malawi flag:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 09:57:05 PM
Puddin, she's at it again   :lol:

Sorry Peach!  Keep it coming!

 :tup:
  :rotf:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 10:15:10 PM
I feel this strange sensation--the power overcomes me--the force is upon me--the channeling begins--the veil is torn--the voices speak:

JUST GET OUT OF MY WAY!!!


 :lol: :lol: But y'all love me anyway, right? right? right? :hhello:
  :luvya: it wouldn't be the same without you peach and yeah we love you  :hearts:

OK, new scenario. The teams travel to Malawi by unknown methods. E/D get pulled off the plane at Lilongwe (photo source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/83543495@N00/391143050/))  en route to Maasai-land.
Nice Slowhatch  :happy:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 10:19:48 PM
here...

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
the web clues for this episode are out!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 10:45:34 PM
clues:
**A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.

**Eric & Danielle hit their breaking point when they're pulled from an airplane they already boarded.

**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.

**Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
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Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.

I guess it pays off.   >:(
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 11:08:53 PM
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A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla

There is a tramp steamer (no not the African Queen :lol:) that runs on Lake Malawi--I've also found dhows, canoeing, and kayaking so far.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 11:17:50 PM
I think this shat was taken in the rotation joint of the passenger loading ramp.

Definitely not Maputo or Lilongwe.  Tarmac stairways for those airports.

If the flight is the one I picked then this should be J-burg.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 11:23:12 PM
Yep.  It's J-burg.  Photosource (http://kumamushi.org/~k/photo/bh2002/CapeTown/DSC04923.JPG)

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Kogs on March 18, 2007, 11:47:46 PM
sorry charla no paramids here  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 12:00:49 AM
The Jumping Dance ties us to the Maasai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasai).  But they are not in Malawi are they?

So maybe Slowhatch is on to something and Lilongwe is just one more connection.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
haha, for a second I thought that was Kandice jumping beside that guy.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 12:04:58 AM
 :carryon:  Just thought I'd chime in with some useless information about Air Malawi.  :plane:   OK, mission accomplished.  Better get out of here before "peach" drowns us with her mounds of data, again....   ;)

...really, puddin, isn't there anything you can do about her???   :angel:     Just kidding....    :lol3:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 12:20:03 AM
It's about time you showed up for work Boingo   :lol:   :waves:
huggssssssssssss  :hugs:

I can't find a connection with the Maasai men in Malawi either you guys?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 12:23:09 AM
 :-\  FWIW, the "high seas adventure" suggests a coastal country, BUT Malawi is landlocked (as I don't consider lakes to be "high seas").  So Malawi may not be the final destination, with the racers connecting through J-burg on Air Malawi to destinations yet unknown.   ???

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It's about time you showed up for work Boingo

 :rotf:  Work, you don't know the half of it, puddin.  Ever try wading through all these postings with a dial-up connection...it's not pretty.  :lol:       
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 12:35:33 AM
 :-\  This is weird.  Air Malawi does fly inside Mozambique, from Nampula.   ???  Wonder what that means.      :groan:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 12:39:00 AM
I'm so sorry Boingo, dial up sucks  :'( !!
Seas, I was thinking that too and South Africa is more " Sea " or no  :lol: ?

anyway..


The Maasai are an indigenous African ethnic group of semi-nomadic people located in Kenya and northern Tanzania. Due to their distinctive customs and dress and residence near the many game parks of East Africa, they are among the most well-known African ethnic groups internationally. The Maasai maintain many of their cultural traditions while engaging contemporary regional and global economic, social, and political forces. They speak Maa. As of 2005, the Maasai population in Kenya was estimated to be 650,000 while the Tanzanian Maasai population was estimated at 643,000 yielding a total estimated Maasai population of 1,293,000.[1]. Estimates of the respective Maasai populations in both countries is complicated by their nomadic nature and their being the only ethnic group allowed free travel over the Kenyan-Tanzanian border.

wiki  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasai)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 19, 2007, 12:48:07 AM
The logo thing on the map is Nampula, apparently a regional/nation hub; to get to Joburg from Maputo you'd have to go through Nampula, which doesn't help our purpose. Chateau's match still makes the best explanation; teams get to Joburg (somehow) and from there to Malawi. Somewhere in the offing is the giant slowdown which forced the pitstop to be moved back.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 02:17:25 AM
This is driving me nuts so I guess we won't know the dealio untill the promo comes up  :groan:
 Malawi is really an ideal place to hide the racers from what I've seen so far  ???
So far we know the Roadblock has something to do with the Maasai men ..hitting your mark etc..
then we have the night confessional with Uchenna & Joyce which fits in with the Phil interview which I won't repeat again so yeah I agree Slowhatch that this is where Phil was at the Pitstop at 3am, grassy area, mosquito's etc ..
So the Roadblock comes last, probably near the Pitstop ..and the one of the Detour options something to do with the Sea adventure unless of course there is a Fast Forward and Shmirna takes it but that doesn't jive with the clue "Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race." and  B:) B:) B:) g'nite :waves:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 02:36:53 AM
I have a possible explanation.  Or, at least a way to get teams to Dar Es Salaam.  Say teams fail to get the 7 am flight to J-berg.  Then they miss the direct flights fro J-berg to Dar Es Salaam.  And they miss the indirect ones via Air Malawi through Blantyre.  So they can't get out of J-berg until December 3rd.

An Air Malawi flight out of J-berg can only go to Lilongwe or to Blantyre.  And it only goes to Lilongwe on Saturday (December 2nd was a Saturday).  And there are no Air Malawi flights from Lilongwe to Dar Es Salaam.  So missing the 7 am flight forces the flight we see in the preview to be the one going to Blantyre and therefore sending teams ultimately to Dar Es Salaam.

Easy  :lol: :groan:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gator27 on March 19, 2007, 07:46:42 AM
clues:
**A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.

**Eric & Danielle hit their breaking point when they're pulled from an airplane they already boarded.

**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.

**Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.

Assuming this episode has a fast forward, will Schmirna go for it?!  I think they will go for the FF (the incredibly risky move).

Somehow Uchenne & Joyce finish at least 300 minutes ahead of Teri & Ian (based on puddin's boot list).
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: makz3d on March 19, 2007, 07:48:18 AM
My thoughts:

1.  Mirna & Charla do a FF

2.  This is just an "outside the box" idea.  It may be possible that Eric and Danielle got into the plane when they had already been told the plane was full.  The way Danielle saw the situation is that they did find seats so they should have been able to keep them and stay on the plane.---Based on 9/11 stuff (and I haven't flown in 28 yrs) would it be possible for them to get through without actually being checked in?

3.  Is this the leg where they can't make it to the planned Pit Stop?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 19, 2007, 08:03:31 AM
clues:
**A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.

**Eric & Danielle hit their breaking point when they're pulled from an airplane they already boarded.

**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.

**Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.

Somehow Uchenne & Joyce finish at least 300 minutes ahead of Teri & Ian (based on puddin's boot list).
Assuming this episode has a fast forward, will Schmirna go for it?!  I think they will go for the FF (the incredibly risky move).


GATOR27, I believe you meant "at least 30 minutes" to beat the Marked for Elimination penalty.


Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 19, 2007, 09:26:09 AM
There have been several speculations on the EP5 thread about air travel for EP6 on Air Malawi. I am going to offer my speculations, based on my intensive analysis of the entire Air Malawi African route structure and timetable:

1. Teams will have hit the Maputo pitstop the afternoon of Friday Dec.1 and be able to catch an early morning flight TM301 to Johannesburg departin 0700 arriving 0800.

2. The only place they can go on Air Malawi (a necessity based on the pictures we have seen) is to Blantyre on QM202 departing 1425 arriving 1635. At that point, there is only one other place they could continue on to and that is Lilongwe. I don't think they do that, although they might. Blantyre is the major air hub for Africa and Lilongwe is the air hub for inside Malawi.

3. Choices over the following 2 days for flights are to:
a. Harare, Zimbabwe 1020 Saturday morning arriving 1140 QM141
b. Mzuzu, Malawi 1600 Saturday afternoon arriving 1650
c. Lusaka, Zambia 0845 Sunday morning arriving 1025
d. Dar-es-Salaam 1500 Sunday afternoon arriving 1740 QM6202
e. continuation of the same flight to Nairobi arriving at 1915

What does all this mean? I think it means that the pit stop for episode 6 will be somewhere near Blantyre Malawi. I further think it means that the pitstop for episode 7 will be in the vicinity of either Dar-es-Salaam or Nairobi. My guess is Dar-es-Salaam. The rationale is tha t you can't go anywhere else by air and get back and then get to Poland easily. Nairobi has excellent connections via Amsterdam and Dar-Es-Salaam can reach Amsterdam via Nairobi. The Amazing Race is likely to leave Africa from one of those two cities. If you think differently, speak up.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 09:48:43 AM
from the IGN interview  (http://tv.ign.com/articles/765/765692p1.html)
We were in Africa, and the Pit Stop location had to get moved because of logistics. We'd taken a flight to the next location, packed up about forty bags into a propeller charter flight and flew two hours to the next location. As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all. There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes



One quick thought on why there most likely isn't a Fast forward. If the pitstop were moved and there was a Fast Forward what pitstop did the Fast Forward clue send the team to ?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: NDIrish on March 19, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
If they are really in Tanzania (not that we would know from the stingy darn previews!) and with the Masai--a Fast Forward could be to drink cow milk and blood--a Masai diet staple....

 ???  Isn't that what they did on Survivor the season in Africa?  They put an arrow in the cow's neck to get the blood to spew out...I can't remember if they put in milk.  This sounds familiar...

Eww.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 09:56:13 AM
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2. The only place they can go on Air Malawi (a necessity based on the pictures we have seen) is to Blantyre on QM202 departing 1425 arriving 1635.

But according to the Air Malawi African route structure and timetable, they don't have that flight on Saturday.  December 2nd was a Saturday.

 :umn:

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 19, 2007, 10:05:30 AM
In the promo you can see Uchenna struggling with the ROADBLOCK (Throwing axes or something at a target) and it is dark out. So the Roadblock is running late.  TPTB are trying to show that the Uchenna and Joyce team, marked for elimination, is running late (but I think everyone is running late according to the info we have about changing the pit stop). 

It looks like everyone is running late and the teams won't be able to catch some flight which would take them to the pit stop, so TPTB have changed it back to some non-descript open field.

All of this seems to indicate that there is NO FAST FORWARD in this ep.  If there were a FF, then the team might have already made the flight to the pit stop.

AH, perhaps Eric and Dee took the FF and are on the plane to the pit stop, but then TPTB get the word back to the airline people to kick E and D off the plane since they have now decided to change the pit stop location.

Another possibility is that E and D were boarded onto the plane in a "stand by" capacity meaning that they would have to give up their seats (actually four seats) if the party holding tickets showed up at the gate.

Ah, sweet mysteries of life on TAR :happy:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:12:07 AM
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AH, perhaps Eric and Dee took the FF and are on the plane to the pit stop, but then TPTB get the word back to the airline people to kick E and D off the plane since they have now decided to change the pit stop location.
Thats another scenario that would work Gman!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:14:44 AM
Zanibar it is!! Video  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=573.5754820304805)


VO: The amazing race is a non-stop test of will
Cha's: the stress of the race is getting to people ( from EP5 insider clip)
VO: patience
Mirna: please let us get on this flight *smiles*
Charla: that was a little awkward ( EP5 insider clip)
VO: and drive
Male:" Go Go Go Go "
* BQ's pushing a cart*
BQ"S : Whoooooooo!!
* Danielle Roadblock*
Eric/Dee conf: Danielle doesn't have any hunter or gathering skills she has more shopping and dining skills..
VO: but who knew traveling through Zanzibar
Ian: winner takes all, loser goes home
VO: ..would be easier than getting out of an airport
Dude: sorry I must ask you to leave the plane right now
VO: new amazing race all-stars....
 


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more....
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Kogs on March 19, 2007, 10:19:56 AM
also if you watch uchenna & joyce 4:12 insider vid about telling time they mention the dates they where flying on
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:28:50 AM
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:32:21 AM
the end

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 19, 2007, 10:38:21 AM
Half of the detour looks like carting some lumber.

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 19, 2007, 10:57:19 AM
A source page here (http://www.simbatours.com/zanzibar-tours.htm) with photos of dhow tours; unfortunately, it's probably a generic design.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 11:03:14 AM
CBS's quality sucks but this will have to do for now..

 
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 11:08:18 AM
 ;D  Good work, puddin.  Looks like we can tie in the Maasai, dhows & dolphins (near Kizimkazi Beach), and heena to Zanzibar. 

FYI:
Zanzibar Tourism Info (http://www.zanzibar.org/)

Day Excursions in Zanzibar (http://www.suntoursznz.com/zanzibar-tours.htm)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 11:14:17 AM
Boingo  :luvya:
so they pull three or 4 teams off the plane? assumes Eric/Dee, Ucheena/Joyce, and probably Teri & Ian and the Guidos as well.
Charla/Mirna, the BQ's and the Chas with a big lead!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 11:45:32 AM
Boingo  :luvya:
so they pull three or 4 teams off the plane? assumes Eric/Dee, Ucheena/Joyce, and probably Teri & Ian and the Guidos as well.
Charla/Mirna, the BQ's and the Chas with a big lead!!

Not really clear on that, puddin.   :-\

I'm still trying to figure out why the web monkeys at CBS threw in this pix of the "Guidos in Ushuaia" as a Zanzibar preview.    (:;)    :groan:

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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 11:53:43 AM
moved to the spoiler thread
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 19, 2007, 12:04:26 PM
edited by puddin :my fault, moved to the spoiler thread

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
Boingo  :luvya:
so they pull three or 4 teams off the plane? assumes Eric/Dee, Ucheena/Joyce, and probably Teri & Ian and the Guidos as well.
Charla/Mirna, the BQ's and the Chas with a big lead!!

that makes me incredibly happy to read
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 01:08:58 PM
Hold the phone or should I say that plane?

Picture properties (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11679.msg179888.html#msg179888) for the EP5 Detour and Roadblock are 11/30/06. So maybe you all are looking at the wrong date for flights? 12/1 instead of 12/2?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
Okay, so let's get that flight info back up for a closer look.  We can also add in any new facts from the shots in the various travel agencies.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 02:44:33 PM
wait - puddin, what was your reason for saying that they pull more then E/D off of the plane?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 03:04:33 PM
^^ Either thats the scenario or U/J, T/I, Guidos were never on the flight that E/D are on and pulled off of.
I will look through the screencaps later, too bad they are so crappy.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 03:11:36 PM
press release:


A HIGH SEAS ADVENTURE TURNS INTO A NIGHTMARE FOR ONE RACER,
AND ONE TEAM HITS A BREAKING POINT WHEN THEY ARE PULLED FROM A PLANE THEY HAVE ALREADY BOARDED,
 ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS," SUNDAY, MARCH 25,
8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

   "We're Going to Trade You For Food Now" -- As the Racers head to Tanzania, one Team takes a huge risk and puts it all on the line in an attempt to get ahead of the pack, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, March 25 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 03:43:25 PM
...Teri/Ians plane is different

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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 19, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
Notice Eric & Danielle's reaction, it looks like they were expecting this, don't u think?

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 19, 2007, 04:02:05 PM
So the Roadblock comes last, probably near the Pitstop ..and the one of the Detour options something to do with the Sea adventure unless of course there is a Fast Forward and Shmirna takes it but that doesn't jive with the clue "Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race." and  B:) B:) B:) g'nite :waves:


Yes it does make sense, U/J & C/M could both be going for the FF, && Schmirna gets there 1st && U/J are pushed to the back so by the time they get to the roadblock && pitstop its dark.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 04:24:43 PM
I can't wait to see what T/I do to get eliminated, espically if U/J have a 30 minute time penalty AND get kicked off the plane (or aren't on it at all)

How sure are we that D/K, D/O, and C/M are in the front?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: xRyannex on March 19, 2007, 04:25:33 PM
Eric/Danielle's roadblock choices seem very odd.  You'd think beefy Eric would do all the physical tasks, but..

Office Room Roadblock (easy)- Eric
Physical, fish roadblock- Danielle
Looking through letters (easy)- Eric
Holding a rope connected to a rat (easy)- Eric
Throwing some big ax thing- Danielle??

Not anything against Danielle, but I'd think Eric would be doing the more "demanding" roadblocks!  Whatever they're doing, it seems to be working!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 04:28:08 PM
I'm not sure about C/M but the BQ's & Chas are doing the Roadblock in daylight if that helps?

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Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 04:33:02 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11734.0;attach=22629;image)

I think that is Mirna, because if you look at the web preview at 23 seconds you see that same girl walking, with Charla right behind.

And that adds up to them being in the front because look at the sky there, and then look at the sky in the Chas pictures, it's slightly darker.

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 04:41:40 PM
Good eyes Michael  :yess:

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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
And i think this is the Chas in the van yelling for the BQ's to go go go ...
1st Charla/Mirna
2cnd Chas
3rd BQ's
4th Ucheena/Joyce ( guess )
5th Guidos ( guess )
6th Eric/Dee
7th Teri/ Ian

eta: Eric says something about Danielle not being good at gathering so maybe thats what one of the Detour names is? maybe what the BQ's are doing with the logs is gathering?

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 04:47:19 PM
Hold the phone or should I say that plane?

Picture properties (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11679.msg179888.html#msg179888) for the EP5 Detour and Roadblock are 11/30/06. So maybe you all are looking at the wrong date for flights? 12/1 instead of 12/2?
Theres always that chance that the cameraman's clock was wrong on his camera  :angel: ..Slowhatch came up with something.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 05:17:51 PM
I have a feeling it's going to be another 2nd for the BQs, they seem to be following a pattern ... last season in episode four they sucked, then after episode five it was constant firsts and seconds !! :D

wow - 2 of my faveourite teams are doing well in this episode, it should be great!

I really frikin hope that Charla and Mirna's lead does not begin from this episode....I'm sure there will be bunching before Malaysia LOL
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 19, 2007, 07:32:51 PM
Maybe the guidos take the fast forward.

C/M, D/K, D/O, U/J, E/D are seen doing tasks. T&I COULD take the fast forward but that would mean the boot-list is wrong, which leaves only one team: The guidos! 
(if there is even a fast forward on this leg)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 08:38:29 PM
pulled this from tarflies..recycled

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Post by: apskip on March 19, 2007, 10:00:23 PM
After being away for 9 hours, I return with geat resolve. First, kudos to CHATEAU for catching and correcting my error about Saturday vs. Sunday for the Air Malawi flights Johannesburg to Blantyre:

 Reply #58 on: Today at 10:55:50 AM »   
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2. The only place they can go on Air Malawi (a necessity based on the pictures we have seen) is to Blantyre on QM202 departing 1425 arriving 1635.

But according to the Air Malawi African route structure and timetable, they don't have that flight on Saturday.  December 2nd was a Saturday.


The implications of that are:
1. Teams may get 24 hours in Maputo (and maybe we see that at Xia-Xia beach) or 24 hours in the Johannesburg area, but they aren't going forward from Johannesburg on Air Malawi until Sunday afternoon. The incoming flight could be TM301 0700 to 0800 MPM to JNB. The outbound will from JNB to Blantyre on Sunday Dec. 3 will be QM202 departing 1200 arriving 1410, connecting with QM6202 departing 1500 arriving 1740 (including one hour time zone change).
2. the only reason to go to Dar-es-Salaam is that it is the gateway to Zanzibar and closest point accessible on Air Malawi. Teams may then have the option of sailing to Zanzibar Island or flying. Precision Air flights include:

PW453 0700 to 0720 Monday Dec. 4
PW730 0800 to 0820 Monday Dec. 4

If they gave me a choice, I would get on a boat and get moving toward Zanzibar Island.

3. Since it takes about 24 hours to reach Poland from Zanzibar and since teams need to be arriving in Poland on Dec. 7 to keep on the schedule we know of later in the race, there could be one more pitstop but it has to be in Dar-es-Salaam or more likely Nairobi(because it's the major hub for nonstop flights to Amsterdam and Zurich) due to the tight timing.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 20, 2007, 09:26:14 AM
eta: Eric says something about Danielle not being good at gathering so maybe thats what one of the Detour names is? maybe what the BQ's are doing with the logs is gathering?

If the log gathering is a detour option, then Eric/Danielle did it too... Guys behind Danielle in first picture (one in red shirt, the other in vertical stripes) are same as those in second picture. Nope nope. :groan:

And the d00d with the marimba could show up here. Just a thought, based on the terrain and the houses around.

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Post by: michael on March 20, 2007, 09:57:25 AM
Has anybody seen any shots of the guidos doing any of the tasks yet?!

I hope they aren't the team who takes the FF if there is one on this leg.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: makz3d on March 20, 2007, 10:19:12 AM
eta: Eric says something about Danielle not being good at gathering so maybe thats what one of the Detour names is? maybe what the BQ's are doing with the logs is gathering?

If the log gathering is a detour option, then Eric/Danielle did it too... Guys behind Danielle in first picture (one in red shirt, the other in vertical stripes) are same as those in second picture.

And the d00d with the marimba could show up here. Just a thought, based on the terrain and the houses around.

Maybe Eric/Danielle switched from Gathering (logs) to Hunting (throwing ax).  There is a definite picture of Danielle setting to throw in the dark.

eta:  However, when looking at pictures and video again it is a BQ with the logs and guy with striped shirt.  Daniel has on a top with straps, not a halter and Danielle's hat is dark, not white like the BQ have on.
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Post by: puddin on March 20, 2007, 10:22:58 AM
Phil tells us the Ax throwing whatever is the Roadblock  ;D
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Post by: makz3d on March 20, 2007, 10:45:48 AM
I'm thoroughly confused because of the boat, logs, ax.

So they all do ax.

Is the detour between the boat and logs?

Too tired to think it out.  Have to work again tonight so going to bed.  It's morning but nite all.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 20, 2007, 10:55:18 AM
The thing they are throwing in the Roadbl;ock is called a Kerrie (http://www.ambroseantiques.com/mideast.htm) or Knobkerrie (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-Genuine-Anglo-Zulu-War-Knobkerrie_W0QQitemZ220003038625QQcategoryZ4171QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem).

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 20, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
Same club, different tribe: the Maasai call it a rungu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rungu_%28weapon%29) (also here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_(weapon)#Knobkierie)). Mswood (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11752.msg179749/topicseen.html#msg179749) had it a couple of days ago. The ones in the cap look handmade, with the weight of the knob off-center of shaft; they would make lousy throwing weapons.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 20, 2007, 11:41:43 AM
Opps, I missed that!

Here is a Rungu

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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 20, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
Are we sure that the 2nd pic isn't Kandice?

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/funky_vs/th_index.jpg) (http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/funky_vs/index.jpg)
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The 1st pic looks like Kandice, but I used my Photoshop to zoom in on the 2nd pic, && it looks to me more like Kandice than Danielle. The reason I'm saying this is because @ first i thought that the 2nd pic is Danielle. BUT I'm not 100% sure that it isn't Danielle, because if you notice the sky is darker in the 2nd picture than it is in the 1st. If in fact it is Danielle, this would make perfect sense.

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Post by: michael on March 20, 2007, 12:27:33 PM
The bottom picture to me looks like Danielle doing the Detour that Dustin and Kandice are doing. The reason I say it looks like Danielle is because the body seems a bit larger then Kandice's, and the sky is a lot darker.

But then again, they both have pink hats on, and I can't tell if the second picture is from the Road block or the detour.
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Post by: puddin on March 20, 2007, 12:33:07 PM
Danielle wears a black hat /dark hat.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/sub/19Mar0029.jpg) Dee
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: sharkattack on March 20, 2007, 12:36:53 PM
So what is up with them being pulled off the plane? I wonder if Eric said something on the plane and someone didn't like it.
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Post by: puddin on March 20, 2007, 01:09:17 PM
So what is up with them being pulled off the plane? I wonder if Eric said something on the plane and someone didn't like it.
:rolleyes Yes that is what happened...Eric told the Stewardess she had nice boobs and called the pilot a Queer.
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 20, 2007, 07:30:36 PM
Isn't the target that Uchenna is throwing at the same as we have in the IntroFlashCap number 16?
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Post by: Big Papi on March 20, 2007, 07:51:42 PM
So what is up with them being pulled off the plane? I wonder if Eric said something on the plane and someone didn't like it.
:rolleyes Yes that is what happened...Eric told the Stewardess she had nice boobs and called the pilot a Queer.

 :tup:  :lol3:
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Post by: michael on March 20, 2007, 08:20:31 PM
Tanzania? I thought they were going to Zanibzar or however it's spelt :P
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Post by: puddin on March 20, 2007, 10:44:58 PM
Stonetown

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Post by: puddin on March 20, 2007, 11:45:13 PM
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 01:28:01 AM
So what is up with them being pulled off the plane? I wonder if Eric said something on the plane and someone didn't like it.
:rolleyes Yes that is what happened...Eric told the Stewardess she had nice boobs and called the pilot a Queer.

 :tup:  :lol3:
HaHa Papi..I'm gettiing so sick of people assuming that it "must be something Eric said!" , likeohmyfreakingawd, give him a break already people. Take last week where everyone thought that Eric " must have been making fun of the gay people in the AIDS march and thats what must tick the Guidos off!" and it was much to do about nothing.
Eric & Dee = now my new Romber or is that EDEE?
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 01:51:42 AM
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 02:01:43 AM
Maybe they sail to Prison Island?

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Post by: gator27 on March 21, 2007, 06:20:20 AM
clues:


**Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.

What if Charla & Mirna's risky move is getting many teams pulled from a flight so that they will not be left behind?
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Post by: michael on March 21, 2007, 10:06:27 AM
Phil's preview comes out tonight!

 :wohoo:
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 21, 2007, 10:17:17 AM
Yep, could be Oswald/Danny in the van/taxi... on their way to the other Detour perhaps?
From wikitravel (http://wikitravel.org/en/Tanzania#By_car):

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Drive on the left side of the road
Tanzanians drive on the left as opposed to the right like in North America and most European countries.

Could explain how Danny is looking out from the passenger side.

And those two behind the Guidos sure look like Teri/Ian. Next picture is mirror image, perhaps... or it could be that the one with the Guidos is the picture that was flipped? But then in that picture of Teri/Ian with the Guidos, there's a man beside Teri, while in the other pic with just the two of them, no one's beside Teri. So maybe the pics are from different flights.

Trying to figure out what airline these two teams were on, assuming that the flight was to Zanzibar. It could be Kenya Airways, although they should have come from Dar Es Salaam or somewhere near to Zanzibar, not Johannesburg. This is assuming they flew to Zanzibar on Sunday, December 3rd. Because from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanzibar_Airport):

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South African airlines currently serves Zanzibar on Wednesdays and Saturdays from Johannesburg.

So SA airways seems not to be this flight. Although if it's not the flight to Zanzibar, then it could be a possibility.  B:) B:)

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Post by: apskip on March 21, 2007, 11:08:19 AM
HAKUSHU8,
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Trying to figure out what airline these two teams were on, assuming that the flight was to Zanzibar. It could be Kenya Airways, although they should have come from Dar Es Salaam or somewhere near to Zanzibar, not Johannesburg. This is assuming they flew to Zanzibar on Sunday, December 3rd. Because from wikipedia:

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South African airlines currently serves Zanzibar on Wednesdays and Saturdays from Johannesburg.

So SA airways seems not to be this flight. Although if it's not the flight to Zanzibar, then it could be a possibility

Trying to figure out which airline several teams were on is too simple. Visual evidence shows it to be Air Malawi. However, that's where it gets very mysterious. Why should teams be on Air Malawi? The only possible reason can be that other airline with better flights between Johannesburg and Dar-Es-Salaam were booked and unavailable, possibly for multiple days. The release from the pitstop in Maputo should have been just after midnight on Saturday Dec. 2. Every team should have easily gotten the 7am flight from Maputo to Johannesburg. Air Malawi does not connect to Dar-Es-Salaam on Saturdays, but several other airlines do:

SAA 188 nonstop 1005 to 1435
TC (Air Tanzania) 1350 to 1830
and both of those code share with the other.

Connecting flights from DAR to ZNZ were also available:
Zanair (B4) 104 1545 to 1605
PW450 1600 to 1740
B4 116 1840 to 1900
TC7909 1900 to 1925

There was even this 1-stop flight from Johannesburg to Zanzibar, stopping in DAR:
SAA 7197 1350 to 1925

or a connection of SAA188/B4 104 to get from JNB to ZNZ that Saturday. But it didn't happen. Why not? I'd love to know.

On Sunday, all the same flights are still possibilities. The 8th best(it's really probably 4th due to the duplication of code sharing) option is:

QM202 depart JNB 1200 arrive Blantyre 1410
QM6202 depart Blantyre 1500 arrive DAR 1740
B4 116 depart 1840 arrive ZNZ 1900

Why did they end up on these flights? If anyone has a theory other than full alternative flights, please speak up.
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Post by: apskip on March 21, 2007, 11:18:41 AM
HAKUSHU8,
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Drive on the left side of the road
Tanzanians drive on the left as opposed to the right like in North America and most European countries.

I thought you would be interested in why Tanzanians drive on the left. British missionaries entered Tanganyika while exploring for Mt. Kilimanjaro in the 1840s. Some time around the beginning of the 20th century, Tanganyika became a British colony and inherited all of its colonial trappings. In 1964 Tanganyika and Zanzibar merged to form the modern nation of Tanzania. I assume that Zanzibar had to begin driving on the left at that time.
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 11:18:55 AM
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2007, 11:50:15 AM
I really think we are looking at 2 separate flights:

In puddins upper picture, T/I are in the middle/window seats, and there is no logo on the seat protector cloth.

In the lower picture, they are in the aisle/middle seats and there is a logo in the corner of the seat protector cloth.

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Post by: Sasuke11 on March 21, 2007, 12:31:40 PM
where the christ do you guys get all these pictures
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 21, 2007, 12:39:09 PM
No it still looks like the same flight.  Look closely at the first pix, Ian and Teri are indeed in the aisle and middle seat since there is no seat next to Teri as it is an exit row.  Note the exit door one seat (missing) to Teri's left.  The emblem on the seat rag is just covered up by the passenger in that first shot.  And in the second shot, Ian and Teri are still in the same seats and the same guy is sitting in the window seat behind them.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 21, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
You are right about the emblem--I forgot this was a flipped view and what I circled was actually the other corner...

Heee...now I've almost forgotten why it matters anyway! :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 01:30:47 PM
 :lol: my only point of the picture was to show that T/I were on the same flight as BJ and that they are on different flights than the BQ'S/Chas/ EDEE who are pulled off. Knowing Shmirna took some risky flight that leaves U/J open only because I can't spot them and I'm guessing they are somewhere on that flight with T/I and BJ.
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Post by: michael on March 21, 2007, 03:00:11 PM
Wait, all three of those teams get pulled off the flight, or just Eric and Danielle?
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Post by: puddin on March 21, 2007, 04:05:42 PM
How the hell would I know  :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 21, 2007, 04:21:59 PM
LOL i dont know :P

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 21, 2007, 08:21:57 PM
Heck, I thought you wrote the script, Puddin :jumpy:
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Post by: michael on March 21, 2007, 08:59:07 PM
I hope Phil's preview comes out soon  :js:

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Post by: Kogs on March 21, 2007, 10:13:44 PM
Heck, I thought you wrote the script, Puddin :jumpy:

Only for Days of our Lives :lol: :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 09:53:05 AM
I was thinking that maybe Charla and Mirna gain their lead because they get to the airport just in time to get onto a flight before the other teams.

So couldn't we check how much of a lead they have by looking at flight schedules from that day?

I hope they don't keep this lead up until the finale :@
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 22, 2007, 10:25:14 AM
I'm wondering if our Rungu throwing, tribal dancing shots could take place here, at the Village Museum outside Dar?

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 22, 2007, 10:27:24 AM
Entrance to the Museum

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Post by: hakushu8 on March 22, 2007, 11:10:54 AM
^ If that's the case, peach, then the pit stop is not in Zanzibar? They would have to go back to mainland Africa if the roadblock is indeed there, and the pit stop is just outside Dar Es Salaam. My thoughts are based on the assumption that the pit stop is near the roadblock site, and that the roadblock is after the detour.

Oh, and any news on Phil's preview? It's gonna be posted today, yes?  ???
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 11:38:35 AM
CBS says Phils preview for this episode is up but I'll be damned if I could find it  (:;) ..looks like they changed the codes again but I am working on it  :hand:
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 11:51:58 AM
yay! now i have something to look forward to when I get home!
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 22, 2007, 12:11:23 PM
This episode is confusing, because it seems that the Pitstop we will see is possibly not the one that was "meant to be", based on Phil's interview (either this week or next). So where ever it ends up being--it may be somewhat makeshift if this is the pitstop that wasn't. The teams may have been meant to be somewhere else entirely.

I've been thinking that it makes more sense if the Roadblock is NOT on Zanzibar--as the Maasai are more of a mainland tribe. This Village Museum is one of the few places I've found where the teams could see Maasai tribal dancing nearby Dar es Salaam.

I've also been puzzled by Eric's "hunting and gathering" comment--maybe the Roadblock could be two parts and we've only seen the "hunting" (throwing the runga) part so far?

And I'm wondering if the "deep sea adventure" and the shot of Uchenna on the dhow is not a task at all--but possibly just an alternative means of transport from Zanzibar to Dar es Salaam, or vice versa...which may explain why we haven't seen more teams afloat!

So my thoughts are: Zanzibar for the detours (we still have fish/henna hand painting/hair plaiting to cover) :lol:

Dhow travel to or from Dar vs a special trip out of either Fumba or Kimikanzi for a swim with the dophins adventure...

Ending with the Roadblock back on the mainland. (Now I'll be grieving for the lost Pitstop--I bet it was supposed to be in the Serengeti or Ngorogoro Crater...)

I'm ready for another preview too, please!

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 12:27:47 PM
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Dhow travel to or from Dar vs a special trip out of either Fumba or Kimikanzi for a swim with the dophins adventure...
Keep dreaming  :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 22, 2007, 12:43:04 PM
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Dhow travel to or from Dar vs a special trip out of either Fumba or Kimikanzi for a swim with the dophins adventure...
Keep dreaming  :lol:

How do you think the dhows fit in? I think they either have to be transport or a task...Aren't we still missing one Detour task?

Although time-wise, I think transport makes more sense.
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 22, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
Some info, but more like comments, about Tanzania transportation from here (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Africa/Tanzania/Transportation-Tanzania-BR-1.html):

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If you want to go by boat from Dar es Salaam to Zanzibar Town or back you have much choices. There are ferries, catamarans, hydrofoils or you can even go by dhow or governmental boat. There are different prices depending on which boat you take (10 -35 dollar). The boattrip will take 90 minutes at the fast boats and 6 hours at the slowest ones. From Zanzibar Island back to Dar es Salaam we took the fast catamaran called MV ''Seabus'' of Azam Marine, two departures a day. But there are also other good companies. Check the fares and times at the company-offices before you make your choice.

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This was our car with wich we drove around Tanzania. It is a Toyota Hiace (older Model), but still in good shape (if you overhear the automatic door closer readjusting after some hard bumps on the road). The roof can be opened, so you have a good view around in the national parks and are still safe from the animals - well, hopefully.... The tires were extremely robust, if a little soft, but I suppose that is better when driving on the gravel roads. The funny thing with that is, that if you are steering, it actually takes a moment until the car changes direction. It´s like steering a boat.

I believe it's the same car in the preview where Dustin/Kandice were pushing a cart and Danny(?) yelled from the van.

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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 22, 2007, 01:59:06 PM
Eric & Dee = now my new Romber or is that EDEE?
ohhhh heck yessss
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 04:39:03 PM
better than nothing clip  (http://tv.yahoo.com/the-amazing-race-all-stars/show/40557;_ylt=AgnbH6EQzVk3HDxlnZk5LYcbqdEF) for now..
the Chas working with Shmirna
two underdogs teams racing neck and neck to come in first ..

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 04:39:50 PM
more later

The Guidos wear orange shirts like this

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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
Thanks Puddin!

OK, so my guess is:

Two underdog teams racing to avoid elim is obviously the guidos and teri/ian

Since we see C/M on a boat with D/O, i imagine that C/M, D/O, D/K all get to Tanzania at the same time since we see a shot of D/O(?) yelling "GO GO GO!" to the BQs, so I think first place is up for grabs between any of these teams.

Also U/J get there just as the sun is setting so they might not be that far behind after all.
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 04:58:48 PM



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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 05:09:46 PM
Wait - does this leg take place on two different days because the clothes Mirna is wearing on the boat and at the airport don't match the clothes that she does the Roadblock in.

And in one shot of the teams at the airport/on the plane Dustin is wearing her pink shirt and while doing the detour she is wearing her black nike tank top.
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 05:43:37 PM
Maybe she stunk?
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
haha, maybe ???
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 05:49:36 PM
So the Dhows aren't a task..and

*A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.   :snicker:

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Post by: red_sox on March 22, 2007, 05:52:46 PM
Aaaw i was hoping Charla and Mirna would win this leg.. but if they arrive near the pitt-stop at the same time as Oswald and Danny they might not :( Charla/Mirnas sneaky flight comes before the boat right?
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Post by: Big Papi on March 22, 2007, 05:52:55 PM
So the Dhows aren't a task..and

*A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.   :snicker:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/22Mar0023.jpg)


Transportation and Charla gets seriously seasick?
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 05:58:25 PM
She looks awful happy Papi  :lol: ..the clue made it sound like she fell overboard or something  :angel:

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Post by: Big Papi on March 22, 2007, 06:04:53 PM
She looks awful happy Papi  :lol: ..the clue made it sound like she fell overboard or something  :angel:



Fell overboard? Poor thing. I hope not because that is a sailboat and she would be spending a lot of time in the water before they could rescue her. But then again Oswald would surely jump in, save her, and they would sail off into the sunset.    :hearts: :luvya:
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Post by: red_sox on March 22, 2007, 06:07:36 PM
Is it possible for someone to upload phils preview to go-fish or you-tube? It wont play for me on the other website :(
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 06:07:54 PM
She looks awful happy Papi  :lol: ..the clue made it sound like she fell overboard or something  :angel:



Fell overboard? Poor thing. I hope not because that is a sailboat and she would be spending a lot of time in the water before they could rescue her. But then again Oswald would surely jump in, save her, and they would sail off into the sunset.    :hearts: :luvya:
....But first Oswald gives Charla a pearl necklace  :angel: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/22Mar0025.jpg)
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Post by: Big Papi on March 22, 2007, 06:12:32 PM
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....But first Oswald gives Charla a pearl necklace

HA!!! Romance in the salt air. Are Danny and Mirna below deck  ???  :angel:
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 06:14:09 PM
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww  :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 06:20:07 PM
why do I get the feeling that this is going to be a Mirna and Schmirna dominated season? :(
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 06:33:39 PM
Video in Hi-Res at IGN  (http://media.tv.ign.com/media/826/826377/vid_1942717.html)

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Post by: hakushu8 on March 22, 2007, 07:18:42 PM
Thanks for the video, puddin! :happy:

Uchenna and Joyce... what's up with the "racing with only the clothes on their back" comment from Phil? So the "Phil takes your stuff" penalty is back or what? ???

And the two teams battling at the wooden fish puzzle (detour?) task, are they Teri/Ian and Joe/Bill? All the hands I saw were wrinkly. :lol: Joe/Bill were wearing their orange jackets, as puddin noted. Ian is the one with the watch, I think.
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 22, 2007, 07:48:20 PM
I'm thinking maybe this cluebox (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/20Mar0025.jpg) and this cap are the same place: grab a roadblock card, walk around back to the field and throw some rungus.

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 08:01:46 PM
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Uchenna and Joyce... what's up with the "racing with only the clothes on their back" comment from Phil? So the "Phil takes your stuff" penalty is back or what
Phil is just trying to build up the drama?  :lol:

Counting the baskets in the Roadblock task ..is Mirna ahead of the Danny?
and and aww the poor BQ's spilled their load  ;D

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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 08:10:13 PM
is the last picture Kandice doing the detour or the road block?
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 22, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
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is the last picture Kandice doing the detour or the road block?

Michael, they're doing the Detour here. Dustin's behind her. And the two d00ds helping them (the one in red and the other in vertical stripes) are in another picture with them pushing the cart. This was the guess I got wrong back in page 4. :groan:

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Counting the baskets in the Roadblock task ..is Mirna ahead of the Danny?

I'm thinking Mirna is actually supposed to be to the left of Danny. Counting the baskets, Mirna has two baskets (1 and 2) to her left, while Danny (1, 2, and 3) has three. So Mirna could have gotten her rungus from Basket 2, and Danny from Basket 3. But then what's strange is looking at the Mirna shot, the baskets look smaller than the ones in the Danny shot. Camera trick, maybe? I don't know who's ahead though. Chateau would be good at finding this out based on the sun's position, I believe.

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
Oh they are not logs, probably spices " Spice Island"

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 08:32:31 PM
And yes those Vans are all over the island

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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 08:33:05 PM
I'm excited for this episode (haha, what else is new?)

I wish Charla and Mirna go down in flames, but hell, I know it's not going to happen, but whatever...here's to another awesome episode  :jam:

Oh, haha, I thought they would be logs for sure because they looked like them :(
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Post by: red_sox on March 22, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
I thought you liked C/M Michael  :meow:

So im confused..

-Flight (where C/M get secret flight)
-Roadblock
-Boat
-Detour

Is that the order of events? Can someone write a summary of the order things will hppen please? Sorry  :-[
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 08:43:44 PM
no no no, I like D/K (isn't it obvious)

I don't HATE C/M, but I'm worried that they are going to get first on every leg now!

I thought the Roadblock came right before the pitstop
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 22, 2007, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: Puddin
And yes those Vans are all over the island
They're called dala-dalas (http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~povich/tz/images/daladala.html), supposedly because of the fare ("dollar dollar") but I haven't been able to track down a confirmation of that story.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 22, 2007, 08:56:05 PM
It looks to like the Chas are there at essentially the same time as Charla & Mirna.

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 09:04:54 PM
So its going to be luck of the rungus  :knuckles: !! Thanks Chateau :hyper:
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 22, 2007, 09:21:56 PM
no no no, I like D/K (isn't it obvious)

I don't HATE C/M, but I'm worried that they are going to get first on every leg now!

I thought the Roadblock came right before the pitstop

I'm pretty sure that the Roadblock does not come after the pitstop :jumpy:
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Post by: michael on March 22, 2007, 09:25:53 PM
no no no, I like D/K (isn't it obvious)

I don't HATE C/M, but I'm worried that they are going to get first on every leg now!

I thought the Roadblock came right before the pitstop

I'm pretty sure that the Roadblock does not come after the pitstop :jumpy:

haha, obviously :P
that's what i said...it came BEFORE!!

red sox was saying it came before the detour though
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Post by: apskip on March 22, 2007, 10:00:03 PM

And I'm wondering if the "deep sea adventure" and the shot of Uchenna on the dhow is not a task at all--but possibly just an alternative means of transport from Zanzibar to Dar es Salaam, or vice versa...which may explain why we haven't seen more teams afloat!...

Ending with the Roadblock back on the mainland. (Now I'll be grieving for the lost Pitstop--I bet it was supposed to be in the Serengeti or Ngorogoro Crater...)


Well, PEACH, if you've been reading my posts (which I believe you do), you would know that I have speculated that a boat trip is one of two ways I think teams get from Dar-es-Salaam over to Zanzibar. Whether it's on a dhow or not or called a "deep sea adventure" is not really important since it will be a vital tranportation link. It looks to me that teams that choose this could get to Zanzibar ahead of teams that fly, unless the winds die down.

I absolutely doubt that the "lost pitstop" was as far away as the Serengeti or Ngorogoro. Those are still distinct possiblities for episode 7, although I believe that the pitstop will be closer to Nairobi.
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 10:12:31 PM
some pictures of the market in Stonetown
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/092003nasir4Market1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/zanzibar01.jpg)

Zanzibar airport
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 10:19:04 PM
I thought you liked C/M Michael  :meow:

So im confused..

-Flight (where C/M get secret flight)
-Roadblock
-Boat
-Detour

Is that the order of events? Can someone write a summary of the order things will hppen please? Sorry  :-[


Flight --But the Cha's catch up to Charla & Mirna...hmmmmm I wonder if C/M had to wait for the Dhow ride and thats how the Cha's caught up? Maybe 2 teams per Dhow leaving the BQ's behind to ride by themselves?
Sail
Detour
Roadblock
Pitstop   ..something like that  :lol:

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 22, 2007, 11:00:25 PM
OK, I'll try this again, in the right thread this time:

I'm reasonably sure the hired dhows (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/20Mar0026.jpg) belong to the Safari Blue (http://www.safariblue.net/safaribluemainpage.htm) tour company operating out of Fumba. Could the boats have been hired for a channel crossing? Maybe, but I'll put my chips on the Charla troubles being snorkeling or something similar.

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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 11:21:15 PM
Gotcha Slowhatch  :tup:
So does this mean they don't swim with the Dolphins?

 :lol:
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 22, 2007, 11:37:19 PM
If they do, you'll need a new avatar showing the dolphins dragging Charla away.  :rotf:
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Post by: puddin on March 22, 2007, 11:44:59 PM
 :lol: I wish I could photochop

Just because
this one by Gullible Skeptic @sucks
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 22, 2007, 11:55:55 PM
Note correction!  I had the wrong side of noon earlier.    :groan:

Note yet another correction.  I decided to go by azimuth angles.


This shot was taken before 11:25 am, not by much (assumes December 1st).

Don't tell Mirna!    :angel:  (no longer applies)


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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 12:10:35 AM
What about this one Chateau

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:15:21 AM
Note correction.  Ian's cheek makes a poor sphere.  Going by azimuth instead of altitude.

This shot was taken before 11:25 am, not by much (assumes December 1st).

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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 12:16:32 AM
hm, ok so the top 3 teams came in reasonably close to each other!

Thanks Chateau! You rock! :yess:
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:30:46 AM
This shot was taken between 11:21 and 11:26 am (assumes December 1st).

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:44:30 AM
This shot was taken before 11:32 am (assumes December 1st).

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:50:48 AM
This shot was taken before 11:37 am (assumes December 1st).

This was from Uchenna & Joyce's car window as they approached the fort.

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:56:19 AM
This shot was taken before 11:33 am (assumes December 1st).

This was Phil checking in U&J

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 01:25:56 AM
I think the long and short of it is the checkin times are going to be very tight.
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Post by: mswood on March 23, 2007, 01:56:47 AM
Thats really surprising Chateau.

The detour seemed like a much longer tasks (and with the distance driving, and the closeness to the Pit Stop), I woul have expected at least a 40 minute to an hour seperation.

Damn editors.
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Post by: makz3d on March 23, 2007, 10:15:15 AM
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....But first Oswald gives Charla a pearl necklace

HA!!! Romance in the salt air. Are Danny and Mirna below deck  ???  :angel:

It looks like Mirna laying out and sunning on deck.  You can see legs only in 1st picture and then in next picture it looks like Mirna setting up behind Oswald reacting to what was going on with Charla.
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Post by: makz3d on March 23, 2007, 10:55:38 AM
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Phil is just trying to build up the drama?  :lol:

Counting the baskets in the Roadblock task ..is Mirna ahead of the Danny?
and and aww the poor BQ's spilled their load  ;D

Maybe Kandice and Dustin are delivering the herb.  Note that they are at the side of the curb and it looks like a husband & wife????? (woman & man) are moving towards them.  BQs don't seem upset.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 12:13:52 PM
I'm thinking that the items on the cart are logs or sticks of Ebony.  Photo ref (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ina.tamu.edu/images/Uluburun/exotic%2520raw%2520materials/Kw8891.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ina.tamu.edu/ub-rawmat.htm&h=290&w=640&sz=31&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=Fb--lmHFYOupBM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Debony%2Blogs%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DXZ7%26sa%3DG).

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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 12:53:56 PM
Your guess is better than mine Chateau :neener: ..any ideas what to call the fish puzzle board? I can't find anything like it?
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Post by: Boingo on March 23, 2007, 01:10:25 PM
..any ideas what to call the fish puzzle board? I can't find anything like it?

 :rotf:

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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 01:26:35 PM
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As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all

Are we sure this is from this episode? It doesn't seem to fit with this episode.
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Post by: apskip on March 23, 2007, 01:37:05 PM
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As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all

Are we sure this is from this episode? It doesn't seem to fit with this episode.

MICHAEL D, the next episode should be in Africa, somewhere within that 2 hour range. The one after that is Warsaw Poland and that is over 12 hours away. There is no possiblity of flying back from Poland to East Africa to move the pit stop for Episode 7. We're not certain, but the probability is pretty high. The conjunction of close distances between pitstops is available nowhere else except between Hong Kong and Macau and that will not involve any flying.
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 01:40:47 PM
See - that seems strange to me then, how can we have C/M and D/O checking in at the pit stop during daylight?
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 02:00:03 PM
Michael, thats a good question? If Phil had to go out in the middle of the night to the new/grassy pitstop, 3am, what became of the daylight teams ( C/M D/O BQ's) ?

We were in Africa, and the Pit Stop location had to get moved because of logistics.
We'd taken a flight to the next location, packed up about forty bags into a propeller charter flight and flew two hours to the next location.
As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night.

So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back.
So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes
 
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 02:02:18 PM
is it possible that the roadblock isn't before the pit stop and there is something else in this episode?
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
Boingo  :lol:



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Post by: gingerman28 on March 23, 2007, 02:18:41 PM
SUNDAY PROGRAM ALERT

The second area championship basketball game (West) is scheduled repeat scheduled for a 5:00PM tipoff.  Since this is the fourth game to determine the Final Four, you can expext the game to last until at least 7:30PM EDT.  So anyone in the East or Midwest who is setting a recorder for Sunday Night be aware.  To be on the safe side, I would set VCR or TiVo to start at 8:00PM EDT and have it run to 9:45PM
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 02:31:57 PM
I'm not surprised Gman! The thing I hate is the Canadians know the outcome before we do  (:;)

is it possible that the roadblock isn't before the pit stop and there is something else in this episode?
Like we have it reversed and the Night shots /Roadblock/Confessionals of Uchenna/Joyce and Eric/Dee means they are first and second and the day shots of C/M D/O BQ's puts them behind U/J & E/D?
lets see how this works

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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
The only thing that has me doubting that is that E/D get pulled from the flight so I can't see how they can be so far ahead of C/M, BQs, and O/D

this is confusing! :(
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 02:38:53 PM
The only thing that has me doubting that is that E/D get pulled from the flight so I can't see how they can be so far ahead of C/M, BQs, and O/D

this is confusing! :(
Maybe they get an even better flight?
Wheres our flight peeps!! I think Michael rasied a good question and the above scenario fits.
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 02:41:37 PM
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I'm not surprised Gman! The thing I hate is the Canadians know the outcome before we do 

 :angel:
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Maybe they get an even better flight?

Possibly, I don't know! There seems to be a lot going on in this episode
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
I have to go do some junk but will be back to see if we could sort the screencaps out again, maybe in reverse Michael  :waves:
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 02:45:27 PM
hehe, ok puddin! I'll be looking forward to it!  :happy:
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 02:55:30 PM
Another thing to consider is that Charla and Mirna not being in first place seems to make the web clue of "Charla and Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could either make or break the race" because maybe they are behind U/J, E/D and then C/M, along with D/O and the BQs get on another flight, leaving T/I and B/J to battle it out for survival.

This is really unlikely though - I still think C/M are leading, followed by the Chas, BQs, and the rest.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 03:13:11 PM
I played with this last night--and if this is dawn not dusk, it makes sense why O/J are so happy in their taxi afterwards( in the dark), which you would think they wouldn't be if they were that far behind.

But--I couldn't quite talk myself into figuring out how Ch/Mirna got behind again if they are supposed to have some "live or die" moment.

My brain hurts--think I'll go swim with the dolphins! :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 03:23:11 PM
Peach - if it were dawn wouldn't E/D and U/J confessionals be light and not dark?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 03:52:39 PM
bump so i can play with this again .. :lol:
remember I'm working on it

tvguide:
Episode Detail: We're Going to Trade You for Food Now - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The teams travel from Mozambique to Tanzania on the sixth leg of the race. A high-seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla; Eric and Danielle become upset when they are pulled off of a plane they have boarded; and Charla and Mirna make a risky move in an attempt to get ahead of the pack. Phil Keoghan is the host.



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Airport  
**Charla & Mirna gamble on an incredibly risky move that could mean the difference between life and death in the race.
**As the Racers head to Tanzania, one Team takes a huge risk and puts it all on the line in an attempt to get ahead of the pack.
 
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Teri/Ian same flight with the Guidos at some point:
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**Eric & Danielle hit their breaking point when they're pulled from an airplane they already boarded.
**and one team hits their breaking point when they are pulled from an airplane when they already boarded.
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0042.jpg) HeeHee

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0038.jpg)..(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0005.jpg) glad its not us
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Sail/Dhow screenshots
Sea
**A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for Charla.
**A high seas adventure turns into a nightmare for one racer
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0027.jpg) Uchenna


(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0021.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0024.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0027.jpg) The Chas & Chmirna

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Detour==Ox Board/gather or Puzzle board?  


gather
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Phil: and in this leg you are going to see an amazing finish between 2 underdog teams, racing neck and neck to come in 
Puzzle
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0028.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0031.jpg) assumes the Guidos & Teri/Ian



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Roadblock
Phil interview: So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes

Phil: target for elimnation, Uchenna miss's the mark at the Roadblock
Joyce: come on Uchenna!
Uchenna: I'm trying
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0019.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0021.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0022.jpg) Danielle
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0035.jpg) Phil
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0034.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0017.jpg) Mirna
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0016.jpg) Danny


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Pitstop
**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.
 (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_index.jpg) Uchenna: my father's from Nigeria
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Misc~
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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0001.jpg) " the winner takes it all, the loser goes home"
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
is their a flight half way through the episode maybe?!

probably not :umn:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
We need more feed back Michael and its Friday and people are busy.

New order of arrival ?

1st: Ucheena & Joyce
2nd: Eric & Dee
3rd: Charla & Mirna or the Chas
4th: The Chas or Charla and Mirna
5th: BQ's
6th: The Guidos
7th: Teri and Ian
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:07:26 PM
that STILL doesn't make sense because if Phil said the pit stop was at 3AM then that would have C/M, O/D, BQs, and J/B checking in a very long time after E/D and U/J, and I just don't see that happening, especially with the web clue of C/M doing something that can "make or break the race"

I think we have the order of arrival right...we are just missing something:S
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:08:52 PM
also it's just getting dark when U/J are leaving the RB which would put them even MORE ahead of the others.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
^^ Hasn't there been fast forwards in the past where the winners of the fast forward skip detour tasks and only have to do the Roadblock?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:14:22 PM
I don't think so, usually the FF is introduced at the first  Detour or Roadblock clue (whichever comes first).

hm, could it be that the roadblock comes FIRST, then the teams have to go some where that has HOH then the next day they do the boat/roadblock, which somehow takes up to 3 AM?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 04:25:23 PM
I don't think so, usually the FF is introduced at the first  Detour or Roadblock clue (whichever comes first).

hm, could it be that the roadblock comes FIRST, then the teams have to go some where that has HOH then the next day they do the boat/roadblock, which somehow takes up to 3 AM?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/blablabla.gif) Ok then for the sake of argueing there is NO Fast Forward.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:26:31 PM
LOL, now i'm just grasping at straws

It's funny because this morning I was kind of sad that we knew to much about this episode and now we are back at square one (kind of).
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 04:31:56 PM
Phil never said the Pitstop was at 3AM--just that they were there waiting at 3AM which could mean team arrivals anytime after that...maybe makes a dawn arrival more likely than a dusk arrival though...

FF team usually skips all tasks except for their own one thing and then goes directly to the Pitstop. I don't remember a FF where the special task was the same as the other team's roadblock though.

U/J seemed awfully happy!

What about  where that Roadblock is? They seemed to have quite an audience which might suggest a school or orphanage of some sort--back to Iris Ministries?  One of their schools is on Pemba--home of dhow trips...

And the Pitstop must be somewhere else? Since we see U/J happily going off somewhere in a taxi?

And I'm still wondering how far 2 hours of flying time could have gotten them? Certainly elsewhere in Tanzania for a safari type experience, or maybe Kenya--although I tend to think they would avoid Nairobi because that is such a major tourist crossroads and they are trying to stay off the beaten track this season.

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Kogs on March 23, 2007, 04:33:58 PM
from inside scoop

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AMAZING RACE ALL STARS CASTOFFS: We will talk to the latest Amazing Race team castoff to be voted off the new All Stars season. On Monday morning, we'll have a recap of Sunday's episode and talk to the castoffs about what really went wrong.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:38:02 PM
ok - but the sky is a lot lighter in Mirna's roadblock shot then it is in Kandice and Dustin's detour shot!

THIS IS CONFUSING! stupid moving pitstops :@
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 04:42:43 PM
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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/blablabla.gif) Ok then for the sake of argueing there is NO Fast Forward.

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  :lol3: that is so YOU puddin...
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 23, 2007, 04:50:10 PM
UNLESS the roadblock IS 1st, in Maputo. That would explain EDEE getting pulled off the plane in daylight.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 04:55:37 PM
Phil never said the Pitstop was at 3AM--just that they were there waiting at 3AM which could mean team arrivals anytime after that...maybe makes a dawn arrival more likely than a dusk arrival though...

U/J seemed awfully happy!


Has Chateau determined when this pic was taken? This appears to be when U/J arrive at the cluebox for the Roadblock. DAWN (darnit) appears to be the case for this pic.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 04:58:01 PM
Yeah peach - I think it is dusk, not dawn  :-\
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
How ABOUT THIS  Papi!!
since it looks like Dawn when U/J are at the Roadblock and pitch black when Eric & Dee are at the Roadblock then.....
New order of arrival ?

1st:  Eric & Dee
2nd: Ucheena & Joyce
3rd: Charla & Mirna or the Chas
4th: The Chas or Charla and Mirna
5th: BQ's
6th: The Guidos
7th: Teri and Ian



And the Pitstop must be somewhere else? Since we see U/J happily going off somewhere in a taxi?

Right and Ucheena is talking about the Maasai men jumping while in the taxi.
Eric & Dee look happy too in the Taxi.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 04:59:51 PM
ok - but the sky is a lot lighter in Mirna's roadblock shot then it is in Kandice and Dustin's detour shot!

THIS IS CONFUSING! stupid moving pitstops :@
HaHa thanks to you, your team got moved from a potential 2nd or 3rd place finish to 5th  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 05:02:18 PM
HEY! DON'T MAKE ME FEEL BAD LOL

 :meow:

no but serioulsy - not just for the placing of D/K, but I don't think we should count on E/D and U/J being in the front - it just doesn't seem to fit with everything...

We also have a shot of Uchenna on the boat during daylight, don't forget that.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
How ABOUT THIS  Papi!!
since it looks like Dawn when U/J are at the Roadblock and pitch black when Eric & Dee are at the Roadblock then.....
New order of arrival ?

1st:  Eric & Dee
2nd: Ucheena & Joyce
3rd: Charla & Mirna or the Chas
4th: The Chas or Charla and Mirna
5th: BQ's
6th: The Guidos
7th: Teri and Ian



And the Pitstop must be somewhere else? Since we see U/J happily going off somewhere in a taxi?

Right and Ucheena is talking about the Maasai men jumping while in the taxi.
Eric & Dee look happy too in the Taxi.

I thought that EDEE had arrived at the Roadblock early AM and ahead of U/J but I did not have them finishing first due to him grabbing the pilot's butt and getting his butt thrown off the plane to the Detour.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 05:03:35 PM
AND don't forget the biggest thing people are forgetting -

U/J PIT STOP CONFESSIONAL IS AT NIGHT!


which means it can't be dawn when they are completing their roadblock.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 05:04:56 PM
ok - but the sky is a lot lighter in Mirna's roadblock shot then it is in Kandice and Dustin's detour shot!

THIS IS CONFUSING! stupid moving pitstops :@
 

That would mean your BQ's were ahead!


We need   Chateautimes!   :please:! But if U is arriving then it gets darker--yeah, dusk for sure... because if he was leaving and the sun was coming up then it wouldn't be so dark in the taxi--I think?? Is that a pitstop confessional? I can't remember...
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 05:06:06 PM
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I thought that EDEE had arrived at the Roadblock early AM and ahead of U/J but I did not have them finishing first due to him grabbing the pilot's butt and getting his butt thrown off the plane to the Detour.
:lol3: Because Eric is cocky like that!! Don't forget Eric also was calling the stewardess a BOOB  :boobs:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 05:06:39 PM
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_index.jpg)

confessional?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: asamber1 on March 23, 2007, 05:07:26 PM
We need more feed back Michael and its Friday and people are busy.

New order of arrival ?

1st: Ucheena & Joyce
2nd: Eric & Dee
3rd: Charla & Mirna or the Chas
4th: The Chas or Charla and Mirna
5th: BQ's
6th: The Guidos
7th: Teri and Ian


Few things, it cant be dawn, EDEE and UJ have confessionals at night so they arrived at the pit stop at night.  So yea this cant be the order of arrival being teams are doing the RB in the middle of the day.

SEcondly it looks to me [this is in general not the placeings above] UJ are ahead of Eric and Dee even with the penalty because it seems still a little light out in their confessional, for ED not so much.

MY Guess is its like this:
1/2: Charla and Minra, Ozzy and Danny
3. Dustin and Kandice
4. Uchenna and Joyce
5. Eric and Danielle
6. Joe and Bill
7. Teri and Ian
Question: Do we know weather or not The BLondes are on the first flight or do they get stuck too??  CAuse all teams are doing the detour during the day time, and there is a shot of them sitting in what i think is the airport?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 05:08:03 PM
Pitstop
**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.
 (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_index.jpg) Uchenna: my father's from Nigeria
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_20Mar0024.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0023.jpg)Eric/Dee conf: Danielle doesn't have any hunter or gathering skills she has more shopping and dining skills..
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 05:08:10 PM
also:

E/D confessional

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/sub/19Mar0033.jpg)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 05:12:09 PM
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Question: Do we know weather or not The BLondes are on the first flight or do they get stuck too??  CAuse all teams are doing the detour during the day time, and there is a shot of them sitting in what i think is the airport?

we dont see the detours all in daylight..we dont see anyone other than the BQ's doing the daylight Gather Detour whatever
and then theres the puzzle..
the puzzle could be indoors?
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 05:23:24 PM
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I thought that EDEE had arrived at the Roadblock early AM and ahead of U/J but I did not have them finishing first due to him grabbing the pilot's butt and getting his butt thrown off the plane to the Detour.
:lol3: Because Eric is cocky like that!! Don't forget Eric also was calling the stewardess a BOOB  :boobs:

roflmaoff...we are going to get in trouble puddin. Butt, Boob and cocky in one thread  ???  :-[

I now believe that EDEE and U/J run 1-2 and the order does not matter at this time. :tup: This leg appears to be an all day affair...no pun intended.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 05:25:05 PM
And what is with that puzzle anyway? Is this the dumbed down for "senior citizens" tasks? Where are the ascenders, the rappelling, the bungees--this has been a little too easy physically so far!

I guess this is the other detour...

And to save some one else the time--I have searched exports, crafts, puzzles, toys, jigsaws with and without Tanzania/Zanzibar both via google and Flickr with zero to show for it!

Sounds  fishy to me!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 05:26:22 PM
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And to save some one else the time--I have searched exports, crafts, puzzles, toys, jigsaws with and without Tanzania/Zanzibar both via google and Flickr with zero to show for it!

I tried the same thing with a lot of the same words - with no result!


I at least feel a little releaved knowing that the pit stop confessionals take place at night time now  :angel:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 06:13:54 PM
Phil never said the Pitstop was at 3AM--just that they were there waiting at 3AM which could mean team arrivals anytime after that...maybe makes a dawn arrival more likely than a dusk arrival though...


There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes
Phil never said the pitstop was 3AM--just that they were there waiting at 3AM which could mean team arrivals anytime after that or BEFORE that with Teri/Ian vs the Guidos for the 3am pitstop time slot.
I'm back to the U/J are first scenario then EDEE second with the Pitstop a short drive from the Roadblock and the Detour tasks taking place prior to the Roadblock ..and yeah my head hurts too  :lol:

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And what is with that puzzle anyway? Is this the dumbed down for "senior citizens" tasks? Where are the ascenders, the rappelling, the bungees--this has been a little too easy physically so far!
 
Rigged I tell ya its RIGGED!!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 06:20:06 PM
sun or streetlight?

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: red_sox on March 23, 2007, 06:25:49 PM
That's definetely a street-light.. if the sun were up that high it wouldnt be dark :P

Also im not buying the U/J in first scenario.. U/J and EDEE both have their confessionals recorded at night.. and if they arrived early morning they would have had it done in daylight..

Also, didnt someone tell me that the boat came before the roadblock? That doesnt make sense because on the boat its middayish and at the roadblock PPARENTLY its dawn..  B:) :-\ ???
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: samiam on March 23, 2007, 06:29:26 PM
I've been confused about this time thing as well.  Also, didn't Phil say they had just unloaded the plane in the middle of the night and then had to reload it?  I don't see how this would work with the Cha's, C/M & the BQs completing all tasks during the day and the crew unpacking at the aborted pitstop in the middle of the night.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 23, 2007, 07:19:50 PM
I haven't seen any shots that have good shadows and we know where they are.  If you see some that you think have that then post it.  All the dusk/dawn shots... I'm no better than anybody else at guessing the time.

Puddin can you or somebody gather shots of all the different clothes that the BQs are wearing this episode?

 :waves:   More later...
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 07:23:34 PM
BQ clothes shots in the works

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/23mar0005.jpg)
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 23, 2007, 07:28:40 PM
^^ Hasn't there been fast forwards in the past where the winners of the fast forward skip detour tasks and only have to do the Roadblock?

PUDDIN, in the history of The Amazing Race there has never been anything but straight to the pitstop for the Fast Forward winner. The only exception to that is AR1 when the Guidos decided to have leisure time in  Bangklok instead of taking the taxi to the pitstop 500 miles south(due apparently to spending their money in Paris).
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 07:33:09 PM
^^ What about the Horse lips TAR10 intersection?  :rat?:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 07:36:07 PM
..and Lori & Bolo drinking blood?
To receive the Fast Forward, the team must be the first team to perform and complete the task described on the Fast Forward clue. The clue is found along with a regular clue at one of the Route Markers
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 07:38:48 PM
I am back!

oh, are we still discussing the order of arrival...THE BQs are at the top I tell you (:;)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 07:43:46 PM
are we 100% sure that this leg doesn't occur in 2 days?

Dustin changes her shirt, and out of her long black pants into grey ones, and Kandice changes into black shorts
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 07:52:45 PM
^^ Because it got HOT so she took her t-shirt off
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 23, 2007, 08:00:16 PM
^^ What about the Horse lips TAR10 intersection?  :rat?:

Simple, the winners of the Fast Forward by Intersection, Tyler/James and Rob/Kimberly had the right to go directly to the pitstop in front of the church in Antananarivo, Madagascar. however, they took so long eating the cows' lips that Dustin and Kandice beat them to the pit stop so they were 2nd and 3rd.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 23, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
..and Lori & Bolo drinking blood?
To receive the Fast Forward, the team must be the first team to perform and complete the task described on the Fast Forward clue. The clue is found along with a regular clue at one of the Route Markers

PUDDIN, this one is too easy. Lori and Bolo WALKED from the Budavari Labyrintus to the Fisherman's Bastion pitstop. Got any more you want to question?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 08:08:20 PM
I still think we are looking at this a little to hard. 2 days until we find out  :yess:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:17:16 PM
lets do the Chas

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
^^ Hasn't there been fast forwards in the past where the winners of the fast forward skip detour tasks and only have to do the Roadblock?

PUDDIN, in the history of The Amazing Race there has never been anything but straight to the pitstop for the Fast Forward winner. The only exception to that is AR1 when the Guidos decided to have leisure time in  Bangklok instead of taking the taxi to the pitstop 500 miles south(due apparently to spending their money in Paris).

  You are right you win and so on whatever.. lets move on.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:29:22 PM
Eric & Dee
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 08:31:52 PM
ok so it's not only the BQs who change clothes
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:33:46 PM
Charla & Mirna

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 08:35:49 PM
Please stop talking about each other, Ted Haggard, and what you think is "obvious" that's clearly not obvious to everyone. Please stick to the topic and be polite. Thanks.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:36:23 PM
Uchenna & Joyce
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:37:23 PM
Please stop talking about each other, Ted Haggard, and what you think is "obvious" that's clearly not obvious to everyone. Please stick to the topic and be polite. Thanks.
ROTFLMAO  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:38:51 PM
Guidos

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 08:39:05 PM
Please stop talking about each other, Ted Haggard, and what you think is "obvious" that's clearly not obvious to everyone. Please stick to the topic and be polite. Thanks.
ROTFLMAO  :jumpy:

This is no laughing matter. After all this IS my LIFE. Thanks.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 23, 2007, 08:42:42 PM
Guidos

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I wish I had a moderator like you. Do you have a PhD? An MD? A JD? I need someone with a Latin Philosophić Doctorate. Thanks.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:43:29 PM
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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 08:49:11 PM
yes....but what does it all mean?!

are there two flights in this episode, because that could explain the clothes changing
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
You started it Michael you tell me  :lol:

Eric/Dee & Uchenna /Joyce consistently have the same clothes on ..thats all I'm saying, see ya later  :waves:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 09:01:58 PM
Another thing that doesn't make sense is that the sky is darker while D/K are doing the detour then it is when C/M are doing the road block which would put D/K ahead of C/M and D/O, but isn't D/O in the van yelling "GO GO GO!"

i don't know!

i wish I never pointed out the fake pit stop! LOL
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 23, 2007, 09:05:36 PM
Me thinks we have several real problems with this ep.  Lots of confusing times: is it early morning or late afternoon?  Does the race cover several days or just one hellva long one?  Lots of shots of people in taxicabs, airplanes, and waiting around airports, but not much action. So we are pretty sure about the ROADBLOCK (throwing the thingamabob) but what about the DETOUR?  Carrying logs in a cart somewhere seems to be one task, but what is the other?

In the promos we only see Ian and Teri in various modes of conveyance, but not doing anything interesting.  

Uchenna and Joyce have to either win the leg or beat someone else by at least 30 minutes.  We see them doing the Roadblock, but is it early morning or early evening?

And where is the pitstop?

So there does not seem to be a Fast Forward, as we see most teams doing at least one of the tasks which other teams are doing.  UNLESS Ian and Teri do the FF and then somehow still don't get to the church in time.

So with less than 48 hours to go, who has some good ideas of how this all works out so that Uchenna and Joyce are saved and Ian and Teri are Philiminated?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 09:10:32 PM
This is all my fault  :angel:
I swear, after all of this confusion if the results end up being close to what we originally speculated I will be annoyed x_X
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 23, 2007, 09:14:13 PM
Here's another off-topic public service announcement. On this Sunday night (and probably the next 3 Sunday nights after), the Discovery Channel is showing their new 11-part PLANET EARTH series. I saw the preview and it looks like a winner. You will need two recording machines and cable or equivalent feeds since it starts at 8pm. This Sunday there will be 3 one hour episodes, Pole to Pole, Mountains and Deept Ocean. I don't know about future Sundays yet. The reviewer of this was ecstatic, labelling it as "brilliant, the most amazing nature series I've ever seen."

Bizarre Foods: Ecuador repeats tonight at 10pm on the Travel Channel. See my post in Maps, Maps, Maps for a description. I highly recommend it as a travelogue, not for the unusual food.

On Thursday, Travel Channel premieres "1000 Places to See Before You Die" with Alaska at 9pm and Italy at 10pm.  Newlyweds won a Travel Channel contest and travel the world for 5 months. It could be interesting.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: red_sox on March 23, 2007, 09:14:52 PM
MIRNA is wearing the BLUE top at the ROADBLOCK.
MIRNA is wearing the RED top in the PLANE and BOAT.

So if the time-line is what has been thought.. that means Charla and Mirna catch the plane, do the detour, go on the boat, and THEN get changed before completing the roadblock..

Current Time-Line:

Plane (red top)
Detour (????)
Boat (red top)
Roadblock (blue top)

That doesnt make sens... i think we have the complete order in a muddle here..

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 09:33:23 PM
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Carrying logs in a cart somewhere seems to be one task, but what is the other?

     Fishy puzzle?

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So with less than 48 hours to go, who has some good ideas of how this all works out

      BVM?

I think it is something like fly, fly, fly some more over 2 days per apskip (I think), then some take a dhow to Zanzibar ( but why they do that when there is a perfectly good high speed catamaran I don't know :lol:), do Detours, do Roadblock, go to Pitstop. And tasks either happen in the dark or in the light--heee!

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 10:06:05 PM
im excited for this episode because it will be fun to see which path of speculation is right !!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 10:13:11 PM
We need some freah meat in here to sort this out! my brain is fried ..I'm playing games at pogo to clear my mind..Hog Heaven anyone?  :lol:
( I just won 100100 tokens!!  :happy: )

Slowhatch! Chateau! Boingo! HELPPPPPPPPPPP Puleaseeeeeeee  :lol3:
Another thing that doesn't make sense is that the sky is darker while D/K are doing the detour then it is when C/M are doing the road block which would put D/K ahead of C/M and D/O, but isn't D/O in the van yelling "GO GO GO!"

i don't know!

i wish I never pointed out the fake pit stop! LOL
To me it puts the BQ's behind C/M and we aren't sure whos in the darn van? I guessed the Cha's but who the hell knows?  :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 10:18:08 PM
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I'm playing games at pogo to clear my mind

Hey! Back to work! I'm still looking for that doggone fish puzzle  :meow:

So--who are all these people?

School? Iris Ministry? Orphanage? Tribal dancers in waiting?

Makes more sense to have such a crowd at dusk than dawn!

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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 10:18:25 PM
Well no, because if the pitstop is at dawn, then the brighter the sky = the further behind you are, doesn't it?

Yeah, I can't wait until the spec for episode 7/8 start, I'm all worn out on this leg!

I really, REALLY hope that the race is picked up for another season, I was just thinking about how exciting it was when there are new teams...and hopefully we get spoilers during the summer to keep the wait bareable! *is really, really off topic*
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
Uchenna has his finger up like I'm number 1

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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 10:29:13 PM
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 10:30:10 PM
why would there be a bunch of children up really early in the morning before dawn? HMM?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 10:35:53 PM
 going back to the Iris Ministry in Pemba  (http://www.irismin.org/gallery/index.php?spgmGal=December%202004&spgmPic=24&spgmFilters=) ..





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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
I'm thinking the same thing.

Pemba is where all of Boingo's dhows leave from.

And Iris Ministries connects to our sweetie pie's hat.

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Post by: Boingo on March 23, 2007, 10:54:42 PM
Slowhatch! Chateau! Boingo! HELPPPPPPPPPPP Puleaseeeeeeee  

 :rotf:  Looks like someone could use a another visit from Smiley Shark.   ;D

...sorry, my brain hurts just reading all this "stuff"...

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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 10:56:02 PM
..eta: Boingo  :jumpy:  :waves:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 10:56:40 PM
why would there be a bunch of children up really early in the morning before dawn? HMM?

I thought we just decided it was dusk not dawn?? :lol:

Thank goodness--fresh brain cells! I have to go :gnite: now--y'all have fun!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 10:58:53 PM
hahaha - personally I think it's dusk, but some people are still saying its dawn  :knuckles:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Boingo on March 23, 2007, 11:09:51 PM
 :-\  Something struck me as odd in the "group of people" vidcap.  A lot (if not all) of the "older" women have head coverings.  They also appear to have the same clothes as well.  NOT really in keeping with the Iris Ministry.    B:)   I did say my brain hurts, didn't I ?    :(

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 11:10:03 PM
Dusk  :waves:

and yeah they could go to Pemba for the Roadblock but Phil does tell us they go to Zanzibar too so?

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 11:11:36 PM
Maybe there's a flight AFTER the road block
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 11:21:56 PM
Pemba is one of two Zanzibar islands.

Either the women are Muslim, or nuns, or nurses.

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Post by: Boingo on March 23, 2007, 11:22:14 PM
 :angel: FWIW


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Post by: Boingo on March 23, 2007, 11:24:09 PM
 :angel:  I think Pemba is also the name of a fishing village on the southern end of Zanzibar Island.   Never mind, it's Fumba.  My brain just exploded.   :carryon:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 11:28:41 PM
Maybe there's a flight AFTER the road block
:meow:



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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 11:33:26 PM
PEACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :lol:
eta: ok just the link ..



 Pemba Island (http://www.africatravelresource.com/africa/E/zanzibar/Z01.asp) - the northernmost Island of the archipelago. Pemba Island is still the world's   


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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 11:35:11 PM
haha Puddin :P
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 11:42:30 PM
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PEACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  :lol:

puddin has come over to the dark side!   :yess:  I keep telling y'all it is contagious!

Have we coined a new word--as in puddin just pulled a PEACHHHH!??

oh gosh--now I have to get up in 5 hours!  :nitenite:


ETA: oh go ahead--live dangerously--links get lost--just put it back! :lol:

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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
haha Puddin :P

Be carefull Michael or I will PEACHHHHHHHH you  :jam:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 23, 2007, 11:48:38 PM
one more....

 Maasai Hairdresser in Dar  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3013930.stm)
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 11:50:24 PM
LOL ok! I'll be good :angel:
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Post by: puddin on March 23, 2007, 11:56:02 PM
Oh they are going to love the BQ's & Dee
 :hugs:


Pemba Island

The capital Chake Chake stands at the top of a beautiful mangrove inlet. Being basically a one street town, if it were on the mainland it would be looked upon as a village. Life here on Pemba is incredibly slow and relaxed, even here in Chake Chake and it is still possible to sit by the side of the road and drink fresh coffee bought from a traditional Arabic coffee seller.

The people in Pemba are incredibly friendly. They are so unused to seeing foreigners that they are open and welcoming to all. In outlying areas children may burst out crying at the sight of the strange wasungu (white people), especially at the sight of long blonde hair. Wherever you pass you will be accompanied by the screams of jambo! jambo!

eta: maybe thats what someone is yelling to the BQ's from the van? jambo! jambo! not Gogogogo
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Post by: michael on March 23, 2007, 11:58:56 PM
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In outlying areas children may burst out crying at the sight of the strange wasungu (white people), especially at the sight of long blonde hair.

LOL - that's exciting!
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Post by: Boingo on March 24, 2007, 12:04:27 AM
 :angel:  The women with head coverings may be the Sisters who teach at the Tomondo Maria Francis Liberman School in Zanzibar.
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/Sisters.htm


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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 12:11:22 AM
Boingo playing the :sera:


Getting to Fundu Lagoon is part of the fun, and involves a light aircraft flight, a minibus ride and a private speedboat transfer!

You start by catching one of 2 daily Cessna flights, with Coastal or Zan Air, from Zanzibar (or from Tanga) to Pemba’s Karume airport. Failing that, chartering your own little plane is not exorbitant. The resort staff meet you at Pemba airport, with a minibus-taxi to take you to the coast near Chake Chake, where you hop into a waiting yellow speedboat. This whisks you in 15-20 minutes to the resort itself, set deep in the calm inlet of Wambaa.

Alternatively you can catch the ferry from Stone Town to Pemba’s Mkoani port (but this is slow and rather unreliable), and the resort speedboat from there.
 
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 12:17:27 AM
Getting to Pemba

BY AIR

Pemba can be reached by air either from Unguja (Zanzibar Island) or from the mainland cities of Dar es Salaam or Tanga. Local air charter companies run daily flights most days of the week. If you are in a group it may prove cheaper per person to charter a flight privately through one of the companies. Alternatively, these same companies often have spare seats on certain charter flights and sell these to individuals for between US$50 and US$100. Flights from Dar es Salaam inevitably go via Zanzibar and may also minvolve a change of plane. There is also a direct flight between Tanga and Pemba which is slightly cheaper at around US$60. The airport tax for flights out of Pemba is US$2.50 per person and is also payable in local currency (TSh).



By Dhow
Most of the dhow traffic to / from Pemba is between Tanga on the mainland. There is very little if any dhow traffic between Zanzibar and Pemba, and those that do travel arrive in Mkoani. This is mostly due to the fact that it is illegal for tourists to travel to Pemba from Zanzibar via dhow. Dhow trips are available from Tanga but services are erratic. They arrive mostly in Mkoani or Wete and run around US$15.
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 12:18:30 AM
Can somebody put together a new time line of what we *THINK* the episode looks like, and which teams are in the front/back
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 12:23:54 AM
Can somebody put together a new time line of what we *THINK* the episode looks like, and which teams are in the front/bacl
:meow:

1st Uchenna & Joyce
2nd Eric & Dee
insert ,the Chas, Bq's Chmirna
6th Guidos
last Teri & Ian
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 12:27:14 AM
LOL, thanks puddin

...fwiw i'm still saying that arrival is wrong  :knuckles:
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Post by: mswood on March 24, 2007, 12:40:31 AM
Jesus, God knows I would much rather have Eric & Danielle towards teh front of the pack.  But I seriously doubt it.

The comments about hte Pit Stop and the 3am time frame, could be the fact that some flights (thuss teams) are so seperated that they have to be out set up at the Pit Stop again very late at night.   It doesn't mean that hey couldn't have checked in tan earlier set of teams, before that.

Unless I am missing something.

People have also said why would Uchenna & Joyce be so happy if they thought they were towards a group in the back.?

On the footage of airplanes do we see Uchenna & Joyce or Eric & Danielle with Teri & Ian or the Guidos (since We know they are on the same flight)?  If not, perhaps htey know there is a group that is even further back( and more then the 30 miute penality).

Or it could just be the lovely children.

Remember if their original season they thought they were last and were depressed until the orphanage and then they were all smiles to the Pit Stop, even thinking they were last (unless I am remembering that episode wrong).

God, is it Sunday yet, going back looking at the airplane photos, now.
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 01:10:17 AM
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Jesus, God knows I would much rather have Eric & Danielle towards teh front of the pack
Yeah That!!

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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 01:13:43 AM
Maybe you guys knew but I didn't about the rear view mirrors on the vans..

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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:15:27 AM
I'm so confused about this whole Pemba Island thing, probably because it's 2 AM, but when did this come up?

edit:
oh! I think I got it

<flight to Tanzania>
Detour
<boat>
Road Block
<pit stop>
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 24, 2007, 01:33:02 AM
Trying to place the mystery pitstop...I've been looking through amadeus for 2 hr. flight times from ZNZ. Nairobi is 90-115 minutes away using a small jet in regular scheduled service. Best I could find so far.
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:34:15 AM
oh my god my head is going to frikin explode!

LOL, I can't wait until this episode airs :groan:
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 01:49:47 AM
Trying to place the mystery pitstop...I've been looking through amadeus for 2 hr. flight times from ZNZ. Nairobi is 90-115 minutes away using a small jet in regular scheduled service. Best I could find so far.
adding this Slowhatch not that it helps, lol

tvguide (http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800009677&rssDate=12345678)
"We had to change the location of a pit stop because the teams weren't going to get to a certain place at a certain time. Everything was changing and evolving. We were flying ahead to where the pit stop was going to be, and flew a number of hours to this location only to find out when we landed that the teams weren't EVER going to be able to make the route. We had to put 40 something bags back on the plane and fly all the way back again, then we ended up at a place where we weren't meant to have a pit stop, so things were a little sketchy and there were 12 of us at one point lying on the mat at three in the morning swatting mosquitos."
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:51:52 AM
Thanks for getting those clothing shots up on the BQs.   :hearts:

But, sadly I've got nuttin on making a match to this shot that was Dave Price's elimination interview of the BQs.  It aired on December 4th.  Dave said "I caught up with them just a couple of days ago and talked about their experience."  He was present for their interview.

It may have been filmed on December 2nd in Maputo while teams had yet another 36 hour pit stop.  It may have been filmed while they waited for their December 3rd flight through Malawi (if that was their flight, I don't know).  But I am pretty sure it was not filmed during that 'beach day' overnight wait for the Rat Roadblock (November 30th).  That is because their hair is a mess for the rats.  Dustin's wide flat ring is on in the interview and in TAR11.  Earrings and necklaces (and make up) had to be added for the interview.

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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 01:54:12 AM
Nice try Chateau  :hearts:
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Post by: makz3d on March 24, 2007, 06:17:32 AM
Check out the pictures in Reply #79

K/D are probably on same plane as E/D.  E/D's plane has a purple? design on seatback protector.  Note for K/D that the black guy is leaning forward and his seatback protector is not plain.  Check out the picture showing the seats in front of E/D, I think K/D is 3 rows ahead.  This is the row where the steward's chin is.

Also, the screen shot of D/K sitting and WILL is over the top.  D/K are wearing the same tops as in the plane picture.

Can't tell for sure about O/D except 1 possible detail.  It seems that seats on E/D's plane are higher then the seats in T/I & J/B's seatbacks.  Therefore, I think O/D have the higher seatbacks so they are on the same type plane as E/D & K/D.

Does this mean that all 3 teams are taken off and only Danielle freaks about it?  Maybe as Phil was being called back the first 3 teams have to be prevented from continuing to the pit stop that's no longer a pit stop.  For good TV production is holding off on telling them the reason so that they can film a reaction like Danielle's.

Anyone have a real good idea where the plane is flying from?

Since Danielle and Dustin????? (I get them mixed up) have on different tops I'm thinking they (all teams) have layered clothes and they start with tank top, go to t-shirt, then some type of shirt/blouse/light jacket and so forth.  The flight is the first flight and before the challenge Danielle and Dustin? remove t-shirt to be down to tank top.

So 1 team pulled off/3 teams pulled off; beginning of leg/end of leg; moving pit stop/something Eric said that based on local customs was an insult?

I have read, read and read, searched, looked and I am so confused.
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Post by: apskip on March 24, 2007, 08:16:38 AM
:angel:  The women with head coverings may be the Sisters who teach at the Tomondo Maria Francis Liberman School in Zanzibar.
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/Sisters.htm

BOINGO, I clicked on the link you  provided and found the identical picture labeled Cheju Wisdom School. I don't think those 3 sisters are teaching young children, although somebody clearly is.
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Post by: Boingo on March 24, 2007, 08:38:02 AM
:angel:  The women with head coverings may be the Sisters who teach at the Tomondo Maria Francis Liberman School in Zanzibar.
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/Sisters.htm

BOINGO, I clicked on the link you  provided and found the identical picture labeled Cheju Wisdom School. I don't think those 3 sisters are teaching young children, although somebody clearly is.

If you "hover" the mouse pointer over the picture in the link (in Internet Explorer), the Tomondo School info will appear as a caption to the photo.  So there.   :neener:
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Post by: apskip on March 24, 2007, 09:00:04 AM
OK, everybody appears to be confused on many things. I can't say that I have any answers, but I do have some interesting hypotheses. First, it looks to me now that the Race is going now to Pemba Island, Zanzibar rather than the more obvious (and more travelled) Zanzibar Island, Zanzibar. That makes it quite difficult to get to by air from Dar-Es-Salaam. Here are the choices for Monday Dec. 4:

PW730 departs DAR 0730 arrives ZNZ 0750  B4 601 departs ZNZ 0945 arrives PMA 1020

B4104  departs DAR 1545 arrives ZNZ 1605  B4 603 departs ZNZ 1630 arrives PMA 1700

Now, the alternaitve to get to Pemba is to take surface tranportation from Dar-Es-Salaam to Tanga about 100 miles north, then switch to dhow for the trip across the Zanzibar Channel to Pemba. This is an interesting tradeoff and one that apparently Uchenna/Joyce and Charla/Mirna take (and I would take since they reach DAR early Sunday evening). See if this helps.

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Post by: Big Papi on March 24, 2007, 09:00:18 AM
For those like me not on IE. Pic URL

http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/Images/TomondoTeachers1.jpg
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 11:10:46 AM
Maybe what Phil is saying is that all the teams had checked in by 3AM. Don't the teams sleep at the pit stop?
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 11:53:52 AM
 
Maybe what Phil is saying is that all the teams had checked in by 3AM. Don't the teams sleep at the pit stop?

**then we ended up at a place where we weren't meant to have a pit stop, so things were a little sketchy and there were 12 of us at one point lying on the mat at three in the morning swatting mosquitos."
**So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitos

Is this what your talking about? C'mon :groan:
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 11:58:55 AM
Check out the pictures in Reply #79

K/D are probably on same plane as E/D.  E/D's plane has a purple? design on seatback protector.  Note for K/D that the black guy is leaning forward and his seatback protector is not plain.  Check out the picture showing the seats in front of E/D, I think K/D is 3 rows ahead.  This is the row where the steward's chin is.

Also, the screen shot of D/K sitting and WILL is over the top.  D/K are wearing the same tops as in the plane picture.

Can't tell for sure about O/D except 1 possible detail.  It seems that seats on E/D's plane are higher then the seats in T/I & J/B's seatbacks.  Therefore, I think O/D have the higher seatbacks so they are on the same type plane as E/D & K/D.

Does this mean that all 3 teams are taken off and only Danielle freaks about it?  Maybe as Phil was being called back the first 3 teams have to be prevented from continuing to the pit stop that's no longer a pit stop.  For good TV production is holding off on telling them the reason so that they can film a reaction like Danielle's.

Anyone have a real good idea where the plane is flying from?

Since Danielle and Dustin????? (I get them mixed up) have on different tops I'm thinking they (all teams) have layered clothes and they start with tank top, go to t-shirt, then some type of shirt/blouse/light jacket and so forth.  The flight is the first flight and before the challenge Danielle and Dustin? remove t-shirt to be down to tank top.

So 1 team pulled off/3 teams pulled off; beginning of leg/end of leg; moving pit stop/something Eric said that based on local customs was an insult?

I have read, read and read, searched, looked and I am so confused.
According to the previews ONE team gets pulled off the plane and we know that is Eric & Dee. As for your other questions go back to about page 2 of this thread and start there, the plane scenario has been discussed.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: makz3d on March 24, 2007, 12:04:21 PM
Maybe what Phil is saying is that all the teams had checked in by 3AM. Don't the teams sleep at the pit stop?

Michael, the line:  "So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes."

It could mean there was 5 teams (10 people), Phil & the greater (2 people) plus the cameramen and production people waiting for the 6th & 7th team (Guido/Teri & Ian) to show up at 3 AM.

Being this is an unplanned pit stop location they may not have accommodations and transportation ready for racers.  Although they had at least 2 hours for the production people with the racers to organize something.  There was talk in early interviews of Phil &/or Bertram about roughing it.  Maybe they are going to have the racers camp without tents.
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 24, 2007, 12:15:26 PM
Trying to place the mystery pitstop...I've been looking through amadeus for 2 hr. flight times from ZNZ. Nairobi is 90-115 minutes away using a small jet in regular scheduled service. Best I could find so far.
adding this Slowhatch not that it helps, lol

tvguide (http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800009677&rssDate=12345678)
"We had to change the location of a pit stop because the teams weren't going to get to a certain place at a certain time. Everything was changing and evolving. We were flying ahead to where the pit stop was going to be, and flew a number of hours to this location only to find out when we landed that the teams weren't EVER going to be able to make the route. We had to put 40 something bags back on the plane and fly all the way back again, then we ended up at a place where we weren't meant to have a pit stop, so things were a little sketchy and there were 12 of us at one point lying on the mat at three in the morning swatting mosquitos."

Did TPTB then manage to change the printed instructions they gave to the teams after the last task on where to go for the pit stop? "At a place we weren't meant to have a pit stop" Ummmmm, confusing to say the least.
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Post by: survivorfan on March 24, 2007, 01:01:29 PM
can someone tell me the official order of whos comming in first place?
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:04:02 PM
we don't know yet!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:08:00 PM
Okay.  I think I finally have a slippery grip on this thing.

This shot was taken God knows where between 9:30 and 10:20 am (assumes December God knows when).

He is throwing directly north.
And, note the lamppost!


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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:10:39 PM
These shots were taken God knows where between 6:30 and 7:00 pm (assumes December God knows when)

See the artificial light coming from his left.  That is the lamppost.  The Sun has just gone down.

He is throwing directly north.

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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:13:35 PM
wow - the Chas, Mirna and Chmirna, and the BQs have a big lead then
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:16:13 PM
Or it's the next day ?   :hides
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:17:17 PM
That's true - either way, one of the group has a huge lead
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
Maybe Uchenna managed to get to it right at the close of Hours of Operation while the others were just minutes too late.

Wasn't another team tossing Rungas in the near dark too?
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:25:33 PM
Yup - Eric and Dee

but that still doesn't make any sense
because Phil makes it seem like all the teams checked into the pit stop at night, yet C/M, BQs, D/O are there early in the morning...

what if Phil and Co. went to the "supposed to be pit stop" BEFORE teams started this leg, or just after, and THEN realized that the teams wont be able to get their on time, then went and made a new pit stop.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 24, 2007, 01:33:27 PM
If Uchenna & Joyce are now ready to go to the Pitstop (Roadblock Done) then they must have to go for a 9 hr drive in order to rescue Phil from the 3AM mosquitoes.
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:35:19 PM
So Chateau, what do you think the scenario is here? Which group in your opinion is leading?
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Post by: makz3d on March 24, 2007, 01:42:36 PM
Check out the pictures in Reply #79

K/D are probably on same plane as E/D.  E/D's plane has a purple? design on seatback protector.  Note for K/D that the black guy is leaning forward and his seatback protector is not plain.  Check out the picture showing the seats in front of E/D, I think K/D is 3 rows ahead.  This is the row where the steward's chin is.

Also, the screen shot of D/K sitting and WILL is over the top.  D/K are wearing the same tops as in the plane picture.

Can't tell for sure about O/D except 1 possible detail.  It seems that seats on E/D's plane are higher then the seats in T/I & J/B's seatbacks.  Therefore, I think O/D have the higher seatbacks so they are on the same type plane as E/D & K/D.

Does this mean that all 3 teams are taken off and only Danielle freaks about it?  Maybe as Phil was being called back the first 3 teams have to be prevented from continuing to the pit stop that's no longer a pit stop.  For good TV production is holding off on telling them the reason so that they can film a reaction like Danielle's.

Anyone have a real good idea where the plane is flying from?

Since Danielle and Dustin????? (I get them mixed up) have on different tops I'm thinking they (all teams) have layered clothes and they start with tank top, go to t-shirt, then some type of shirt/blouse/light jacket and so forth.  The flight is the first flight and before the challenge Danielle and Dustin? remove t-shirt to be down to tank top.

So 1 team pulled off/3 teams pulled off; beginning of leg/end of leg; moving pit stop/something Eric said that based on local customs was an insult?

I have read, read and read, searched, looked and I am so confused.
According to the previews ONE team gets pulled off the plane and we know that is Eric & Dee. As for your other questions go back to about page 2 of this thread and start there, the plane scenario has been discussed.

Puddin  The preview says one team hits the breaking point (Danielle) which still could mean 2 other teams were taken off but they didn't hit the breaking point.   It's possible (Like a plain yellow pumpkin to become a golden carriage)  Sorry, just had to put that in there LOL

I have read and read and read this thread repeatedly over the last few days and I still don't know if they were leaving from Maputo, Jo Burg, in Malawi.  A BIG, BIG DUHHHHHHHHHHHH.  I just realized it's the Johannesburg O. R. Tambo airport.  So it may just be D/E but why is D/K just sitting there (in the airport?) in the middle of a leg?  Unless it's a bunching or waiting for a flight, they would be wasting time.  In the picture it doesn't look like waiting to board.
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 01:46:21 PM
Maybe it's from the beginning of a leg and they are waiting for their flight to leave? Don't forget they came in 2nd last leg, so they're up at the top
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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 24, 2007, 02:16:17 PM
AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is SOOOOOOO frikkin confusing!!!!!! BUT its ah-bvious tht the teams change clothes AFTER they arrive @ Tanzania. && it is possible that there r a couple other tasks between the roadblock && the pitstop.
Or it's the next day ?   :hides

Its VERY possible tht the pitstop is the next day.
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 02:18:44 PM
What if it's Roadblock at night on first day
<route marker with HOH>
Boat/Detour on the morning of the next day
<Pit stop>

That would explain the difference in the skies, and it would allow the 3AM pitstop to make sense, because we've yet to see what happens on the 2nd day other then the detour!


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Post by: makz3d on March 24, 2007, 02:29:42 PM
Found this for Zanzibar

http://www.guide360.com/destinations/Zanzibar (http://www.guide360.com/destinations/Zanzibar)

Get out
Respect

Zanzibar is largely a Muslim community. Although they are used to Western ways, you should try to be respectful. This means:

    * Women and men should make an effort to cover their legs and arms.
    * Be discrete when drinking alcohol.
    * During Ramadan -- the month of fasting -- travelers should avoid eating and drinking during the daytime.

in 2006 the month of Ramadan (1427 AH) began on September 23 (Middle East, East Africa, North Africa and West Africa)
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 24, 2007, 04:01:35 PM
If they are really on Pemba or Zanzibar we need to remember that they are on an island and transportation options, especially at night, may be limited. If they are told to go to Dar es Salaam, for instance, for the Pitstop--they may have to wait until daytime in order to get either a flight, a ferry, or even a high speed catamaran in order to get OFF the island. Of course, the pitstop could also be just down the street on island too!

It is always possible that this is where we see the dhow come into play, although based on limited flights INTO the islands at the time they are needed--it is more probable that the dhow is an option to get TO the islands (assuming of course that they are where we hope/think they will be :lol:)!!

Well--think how confused TPTB must have been when they realized the our guys couldn't get to them--makes our "mass confusion" seem a little better!
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Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 04:21:27 PM
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Well--think how confused TPTB must have been when they realized the our guys couldn't get to them--makes our "mass confusion" seem a little better!

haha - yeah, it sort of does

I just wish we had more to go on!
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Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 05:43:04 PM
I dont think this helps so fwiw..

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 24, 2007, 07:10:41 PM
PEACHHHH REPORT!

Pemba/Zanzibar Bits and Pieces:

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Henna Painting was originally done in order to cool ones hands and feet. Traditionally, Swahilis perform henna painting for brides and married women only. Various styles of henna painting are available in Zanzibar whose origins range from Sudan, India and Arabia.

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it is polite (and much appreciated) to observe local custom by keeping your knees and shoulders covered; this applies to men and women. Be sure to ask for permission before taking pictures of Stone Town residents. This is especially important when the subject of your picture is a woman.

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Also inside the Fort are shops and a beauty salon that does henna painting
(refers to Old Arab Fort in Stone Town)

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Kangas, the local cloth worn by women over their dresses and covering their heads, are available in every possible color and print ranging from humorous to somber. All Kangas have a message have a message written in Swahili. The different patterns and colors on the kangas also have meaning. Kangas have significance in every major event in a Swahili woman's life from childhood to marriage to motherhood and more. It's a good idea to know what your kanga says because the messages can be strong, for instance one message says, "I may be ugly, but I'm not for sale."
:lol:

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A recent law passed in Tanzania prohibits tourists from travelling in wooden crafts, which prevents tourists from taking dhows to or from the Tanzanian mainland. This law was passed after a German tourist pitched overboard from a dhow and drowned, ruining the fun for the rest of us who might want to spend eight to twelve hours on a wooden boat without shelter from the sun and without food, water, or plumbing facilities. It is a silly law and has silly exceptions such as sunset cruises around Zanzibar harbor such as is offered by Mtoni Marine.
This was apparently in the late 90's and is probably different now because I've found several blogs describing some long and miserable dhow rides between Zanzibar and Dar and Mombasa.

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The dhows have no services, toilets, or cafeterias and can be dangerous in high swells. Some people have had lovely dhow rides but if the winds die or are light, your trip can last well over eight hours.

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Sea Bus (1 & 2) operated by Azam Marine leaves the Zanzibar Harbor 3 times a day for Dar-es-Salaam. Both cabins are very clean, air-conditioned and with comfortable seating.


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Sea Express and Flying Horse are two other ferries between Unguja and Dar. These are the fastest boats to Dar (assuming they're running) and the price is roughly the same as the other ferries. They take anywhere from one and a quarter hours to one and three-quarter hours to reach Dar.


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Kizimkazi (broken into two villages just down the road from each other) is well known for the dolphins that live off the shore.  There are many boats and captains who will take you out on a dolphin safari. Dolphins are social creatures and will not shy from the boats unless there's a baby with them. Most dolphin safaris result in a good viewing but it is not guaranteed.

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Zanzibar, a part of the United Republic of Tanzania, is a series of many islands, the main ones being Unguja and Pemba. The more populated of the two main islands, Unguja, is better known as Zanzibar Island and is home to Stone Town (also known as Zanzibar Town or Zanzibar City),

Pemba, located about 50 Kms north of Unguja, is far less populated. Known also by its Arabic name, Al Khundra meaning Green Island, Pemba is covered in steep hills full of palms, clove and rubber trees, rice paddies and the Ngezi Forest in the north. There are many pure, beautiful beaches in and around the numerous inlets and coves. Tourism is not as developed on Pemba as it is on Unguja but resorts are being built and the infrastructure will undoubtedly improve as tourism increases
.

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Henna Painting was originally done in order to cool ones hands and feet. Traditionally, Swahilis perform henna painting for brides and married women only. Various styles of henna painting are available in Zanzibar whose origins range from Sudan, India and Arabia.

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A Dala-dala is a small pickup truck whose bed has had benches installed around the edges and a roof placed on top. The tailgate has been removed and in its place steps have been installed making the dala-dalas easy to board. Passengers sit on the benches in the trunk-bed as well as whatever available seats are in the cab. Plastic tarps are rolled down from the roof on the outside when it's raining. The roof has a rack where parcels are placed.
Dala-dalas got their name from the Swahili pronunciation of 'dollar'; the original fare was a five-shilling coin the size of a silver dollar.


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Kizimkazi (broken into two villages just down the road from each other) is well known for the dolphins that live off the shore. There are only two guesthouses in Kizimkazi and they both play host to visitors who are there in hopes of seeing dolphins. There are many boats and captains who will take you out on a dolphin safari. Dolphins are social creatures and will not shy from the boats unless there's a baby with them. Most dolphin safaris result in a good viewing but it is not guaranteed
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The Zanzibar Islands have excellent locations for diving because living reefs surround many of the islands. There are plenty of places where the water temperature is warm, visibility is usually excellent, and currents are weak, all of which contributes to an ideal location for first time and novice divers.



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Pemba lies 80 km north of its sister island, Unguja, directly east of the Tanzanian city of Tanga. World-renowned for its collective knowledge of witchcraft and the African occult, Pemba is frequently visited by people looking for local cures or looking to learn the trade of witch-doctoring. It is even said that people have traveled from as far as Haiti in order to learn the origins of voodoo. Although its reputation for occult healing and spell casting spreads much farther than Pemba, the locals will deny it emphatically if asked. It is not for public consumption and is revealed to locals only.


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There are frequent ferry departures from Unguja to Pemba and the fare is about $30 per person for tourists. The ferries Sepideh and Talieh run several times a week (about a three-hour ride) for which tickets can be purchased at the ports on Unguja or Pemba. There are larger ships such as the Mapinduzi that also go to Pemba but their schedules are erratic and unreliable. At the time of publication (late 90's)it was illegal for tourists to travel in wooden crafts in Tanzanian waters making a dhow journey to Pemba impossible. It is possible to take a dhow from Mombasa to Pemba because Kenyan law does permit tourists to travel in wooden boats. If you're looking for a dhow ride, you may consider something shorter than the six to eight hour sail from Mombasa to Pemba. The dhows don't have catering, can be very dangerous in high swells and there's no way to get out of the sun.


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Chake Chake is the largest town on the island (Pemba) and it is the capital. Like Stone Town on Unguja, Chake Chake is located about halfway down the West Coast of the island. It is the only town on Pemba that has a city center feel to it with a central market, a hotel and, albeit small, a strip of shops.

 LINK  (http://www.zanzibar.org/)  lots of fun facts, history, etc....

 
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 24, 2007, 07:49:14 PM
Fwiw, mosquitoes are a problem (http://tanzania.usembassy.gov/pr_12192005bz.html) both on the islands and on the mainland.
On a different topic, is the consensus now that U/J hit the roadblock the day before the other teams?
Quote from: Gman
Did TPTB then manage to change the printed instructions they gave to the teams after the last task on where to go for the pit stop?
Good point; I'll listen tomorrow for any voice-overs and watch the clue-card sequences for strange edits.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
Fwiw, mosquitoes are a problem (http://tanzania.usembassy.gov/pr_12192005bz.html) both on the islands and on the mainland.
On a different topic, is the consensus now that U/J hit the roadblock the day before the other teams?
:waves: I'm on that bandwagon..

and I'm still on the bandwagon that they hit both Islands, Zanzibar & Pemba and thats where the Dhow comes in and its a long ride and thats why the Chas are napping.
I don't know about the flights only what I read and I don't know what day it is but some of the teams are in their same clothes from EP5 so they did get to do laundry somewhere whether it was a 24 hour pitstop or not and that maybe the case because of the excellent flight charts that Chateau, Slowhatch & apskip provided.
So lets pretend for the sake of arguing that this day starts on DEC 4th
So with that I think it goes something like this..
Chas and BQ's are on the same flight as Eric & Dee ..
Eric & Dee get pulled off that flight for some reason or another, whatever.
We see the Guidos & Teri & Ian on one flight together but also see the Guidos at what I assume is an airport lounge having a drink ( is it Perrier or Heineken?), my thinking is they have caught a much, much later flight so are just taking it in stride and killing time hanging out at the airport probably along with Teri & Ian.
Now we don't see Ucheena & Joyce on any flight at all or do we see Eric & Dee again on a plane.
Could it be that U/J & E/D found a faster way to Dar es Salaam putting them hours ahead of the other teams? Remember Joyce is fairly good at making flight plans as we saw on the insider videos.
U/J & E/D compete the Detour task which is either of the Islands in Zanzibar..they Dhow over to the other island ( I'm guessing here ) and are also carted around in the minibus's.
Next up, Roadblock Dusk.. I'll guess U/J arrive first with Eric & Dee in tow and Uchenna jumps for joy with the Maasai men that he is #1.
In the previews we see Danielle when it is darker and from what it looks like she is struggling with the Roadblock but later at the Pitstop confessional Eric is making light of it and comments about Danielle's " hunting & gathering skills " and she laughs.
U/J & E/D hop onto the minibus and are the first 2 teams to arrive at the makeshift pitstop.
Now Phil has radio contact with production all the time and perhaps knows the other teams are close so he waits ..no place to sit, no facilities..so he makes do by napping on the mat with the rest of the production.
Somewhere the Chas & Charla & Mirna are held up and we know they are working together because Phil tells us so.
Stick the BQ's in the mix there somewhere. Maybe the Dhow has HoursOfOperation and they completed the Detours to late for the Dhows to take them to the other island?
Anyway in the morning ( thanks Chateau ) we see Charla/Mirna & the Cha's performing the Roadblock and the BQ's are probably in the mix somewhere
Now something tells me by process of elimination that the two underdog teams as Phil said are racing not to be the last team and of course this has to be the Guido's and Teri/Ian.

GUESS
1st Uchenna/Joyce
2nd Dani/Eric
3/4/5 place =Chas/Chmirna/BQs, in some order
6th Guidos
7th Teri/Ian

...and thats my story (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/blablabla.gif) and I'm sticking with it :hand:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 08:34:50 PM
^^ oh and Chmirnas flight doesn't pay off because the Cha's catch up to them  :lol:

offtopic: is anyone having a hard time getting into Twop's?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 24, 2007, 08:45:04 PM


offtopic: is anyone having a hard time getting into Twop's?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/blablabla.gif) hehehe
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 08:47:34 PM
Bravo? Miss Alki  :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 24, 2007, 08:50:44 PM
Bravo? Miss Alki  :lol:

Grabbed a proxy and checked. It appears to be ok.
Did you get "exiled" too... ???
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 09:56:37 PM
Whos in your avatar Miss Alki ?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 24, 2007, 10:12:59 PM
Whos in your avatar Miss Alki ?

All I know is that I'm the salami in that sandwich. That's all I remember.  :wine:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 24, 2007, 10:33:59 PM
Now that Puddin has it all solved for us, we can all relax and enjoy the roundball as North Carolina puts it to Georgetown or visa versa.  And if that doesn't grab you, come watch the GMan chase that wench around the halls of ivy!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
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Now that Puddin has it all solved for us

yeah - her story seems alright

...

we'll see tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 24, 2007, 11:23:12 PM
Whos in your avatar Miss Alki ?

All I know is that I'm the salami in that sandwich. That's all I remember.  :wine:
Were you drunk :keeta:?
Now that Puddin has it all solved for us, we can all relax and enjoy the roundball as North Carolina puts it to Georgetown or visa versa.  And if that doesn't grab you, come watch the GMan chase that wench around the halls of ivy!
I'll drink to that  :flirt: :luvya:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 24, 2007, 11:37:09 PM
Puddin, I know this is REALLY off topic ( sorry :( ) but have you heard anything about TAR12 yet?! I'm getting worried! :'(
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 12:56:12 AM
I heard TAR12 has the unofficial green light  :happy:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gator27 on March 25, 2007, 06:32:02 AM
Now that Puddin has it all solved for us, we can all relax and enjoy the roundball as North Carolina puts it to Georgetown or visa versa.  And if that doesn't grab you, come watch the GMan chase that wench around the halls of ivy!

Since we are talking hoops, the UNC-G'town game tips around 5 pm EDT.  That means it will run past 7 pm and push back 60 minutes and TAR.

Go Gators!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: makz3d on March 25, 2007, 07:53:25 AM

Puddin, this is Bare bones and something like yours.

Do Rungu throwing at the Village Museum outside Dar es Salaam

All take a Dhow and travel to Pemba or Unguja.

Roadblock is transport herbs or make fish stained glass.

Pit stop is somewhere on the island they do Roadblock on.

It's almost a given that J/B & T/I are last 2.  Other than that there appears to be 2 groups and they can flip flop either way.

I feel D/K breeze through the herb transport and end up in first (I have to say that since they are my favorite and I want them in 1st.)

Who knows, we'll find out tonight.  I've gone cross-eyed trying to figure out possibilities.  Going to bed, watching TARAS and going to work.    :zz:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 25, 2007, 10:26:19 AM
I've read the last few pages many times and I'm still lost. So now I'm just hoping the lost pitstop is not on this leg.  :rotf:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 11:14:45 AM
Is this Survivor :lol: ?
8:36 SEGMENT ELEVEN - AMAZING RACE ALL STARS CASTOFFS: We will talk to the
latest Amazing Race team castoff to be voted off the new All Stars season. On
Monday morning, we'll have a recap of Sunday's episode and talk to the castoffs
about what really went wrong.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 25, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
I dont think this helps so fwiw..

I have looked at the videotape again, and I am pretty sure that the objects that are falling off the cart are the backpacks of the two beauty queens.  I don't know why they are on the cart, or what the BQ's are doing.  Perhaps they have made a delivery of some sort and are returning the cart.  Or, they had to assemble the cart and push it somewhere's else.  I have no idea.  But after many slo-mo runs of the tape it sure looks like their two backpacks.  More confusion for the fire.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 25, 2007, 11:30:19 AM
I heard TAR12 has the unofficial green light  :happy:

According to the application, potential teams must be able to spend up to 12 days in Los Angeles in April and be prepared to spend from 30 to 40 days on the road in the period June - August.  So if this holds up we may be able to hobnob at Bran's Castle in Transylvania in mid-june!!!!!!(If no TAR teams show up then, I sure would like to chase the wench of wenchs, puddin, around a bit in Dracula's Castle)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Big Papi on March 25, 2007, 12:11:55 PM
I dont think this helps so fwiw..

I have looked at the videotape again, and I am pretty sure that the objects that are falling off the cart are the backpacks of the two beauty queens.  I don't know why they are on the cart, or what the BQ's are doing.  Perhaps they have made a delivery of some sort and are returning the cart.  Or, they had to assemble the cart and push it somewhere's else.  I have no idea.  But after many slo-mo runs of the tape it sure looks like their two backpacks.  More confusion for the fire.

There appear to me to be three logs on the cart as well as their backpacks. What can't be determined from the clip is if they dump the entire load.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 12:24:29 PM
Finally, tonight all the answers to this mysterious episode will be solved  :happy:!!

(Although I hate to admit it, the past couple of days have actually been fun)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: survivorfan on March 25, 2007, 12:29:27 PM
does anyone know whos officially first
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 12:30:27 PM
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does anyone know whos officially first

No, but at this point we are speculating that it is either U/J, followed by E/D OR one of C/M or the Chas (with the BQs third, possibly 2nd)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 12:30:41 PM


 :lol: Gman!
Now listen this is a disclaimer! I'm not sure if my scenario is right..its just a guess and really I could be WAY out there wrong about the arrival order of the teams but it was fun guessing no matter what the outcome is and to me it will make it more exciting to watch. It just maybe that we were right the first time around and the BQ's/Chas/Chmirna are teams 1,2, & 3. But why Ucheena/Joyce & Eric & Dee are doing the Roadblock whether its dusk or dawn is still a mystery? They are either way ahead or almost 24 hours behind the leaders? Really I have no idea  :umn: ! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/Smileys/classic/00000009.gif)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 12:56:53 PM
I heard TAR12 has the unofficial green light  :happy:

yay! now all we need is the official announcement and I will be happy. Hopefully we get some awesome spoilers to keep us entertained over the summer, like the Kuwait spoilers last June, or Izads spoilers last December!

hehe, I hope you guys don't have to wait to long to watch TAR tonight with basketball and all , my Canadian self will be watching at 8PM exactly! No no, I'm joking, I actually don't like the fact that it's delayed because I have to wait longer to talk about it!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
Still trying to give this a whirl ....just ignore me,I'm thinking out loud  B:)
fwiw there was a near full moon on Dec 4th in Zanzibar (http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/63870/2006/12/4/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
                                             
Actual Time:
Rise:  5:59 AM EAT
Set:   6:27 PM EAT

Length of Day: 12h 27m

Oswald is using Danny's blue shirt as a blanket while he naps
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/22Mar0021.jpg)
I'm guessing this is The Chas arriving at the Detour after the Dhow trip,
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/20Mar0002-1.jpg)
Cha's now at the Roadblock between 8/9am or somewhere around there?
Oswald has now added the bottom of his cargo pants
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/23Mar0012-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 02:21:41 PM
haha puddin
always adding more :P

don't worry, this will all be over soon!  :wohoo: (not that I want the episode to be over cause i'm excited to watch it, I just want to know what happens! I'm so excited!!)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 25, 2007, 02:35:42 PM
Sooooo ah-bviously the roadblock is NOT right before the pitstop, && EDEE && U/J could very well be teams 4 and 5. I think the detour coould be AFTER the roadblock.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 02:40:20 PM
Theres still something I'm not reading right about Phils interview
Phil arrives at the original Pitstop in the dead of night
Plans change, logistics..teams can't make it to the pitstop which is a 2 hour flight away or 9 hours driving?
Phil asks the crew if they could fly them back in the morning
Crew says no
So Phil & production fly back with the crew at night and get to the new pitstop at 3am?
then Phil & crew go out in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
"There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes"

If Phil asked the crew to fly them back in the morning then he must know that the teams would be arriving in the morning at the pitstop so YEAH it just maybe that like we originally thought  :lol: ....( God help me :hides ) that the teams that we saw on the first flight BQ's/ Chas, then Charla/Mirna and the Cha's meeting up somewhere to take the Dhow trip to God knows where that afterall this craziness that the answer was right infront of our eyes and the original scenario of
1st) Chas/Charla/Mirna/BQ's
2nd) Chas/Charla/Mirna/BQ's
3rd)Chas/Charla/Mirna/BQ's
4th) U/J (dusk)
5th ) Eric/Dee ( pitch black )
6th) Guidos ( Phil: in this race your going to see an amazing finish between 2 underdog teams, racing neck and neck to come in )
7th) Teri/ Ian " losers go home"

Time will tell  :wohoo:

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 02:45:57 PM
haha back to square one!

I would laugh if we have the speculation entirely wrong, these past days have been so much fun !!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 25, 2007, 02:50:01 PM
I've read the last few pages many times and I'm still lost. So now I'm just hoping the lost pitstop is not on this leg.  :rotf:

HAKUSHU8, on March 23 I stated to MICHAEL D "the next episode should be in Africa, somewhere within that 2 hour range. The one after that is Warsaw Poland and that is over 12 hours away. There is no possiblity of flying back from Poland to East Africa to move the pit stop for Episode 7. We're not certain, but the probability is pretty high. The conjunction of close distances between pitstops is available nowhere else except between Hong Kong and Macau and that will not involve any flying." It is probable that this is the lost pitstop leg.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 02:53:02 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the BQs are actually ahead of C/M and D/O and they come in first in this leg since we are completely lost and have no idea what's happening, I might as well think my team comes in first  :angel:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 25, 2007, 02:58:34 PM
haha back to square one!

I would laugh if we have the speculation entirely wrong, these past days have been so much fun !!  :lol:

I am sure the original idea is the correct one (damnit).  So I think your Queens did good.  And While out of three lead teams I would rather see Oswald & Danny get another win (I love those guys), I really do actively dislike Charla & Mirna (though last episode they weren't bad in behavior or attitude, so there is hope), so I would love to see Dustin & Kandice stomp them into the ground.  Plus they are coming across so much more personalable this season (Not to locals which they always did well, but with the other players).  Its also nice to see that they were aware of that from season ten.  Just like its nice to see Eric realize that he came off like a dog in heat in season 9.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 25, 2007, 03:04:37 PM
You no whats depressing.  We are almost halfway through the season.

God, it goes to fast.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 03:06:16 PM
Yeah - espically since we have a goddamn 2 hour episode next week! I swear, I hope they have no episode one week, then at least we will get a 2 hour finale!

Thank god puddin said season 12 has been given the unofficial green light, now i have that to look forward to!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: NDIrish on March 25, 2007, 03:06:50 PM

FF team usually skips all tasks except for their own one thing and then goes directly to the Pitstop. I don't remember a FF where the special task was the same as the other team's roadblock though.

U/J seemed awfully happy!


 :reading:  I am pages away from catching up and maybe somebody has already come up with what's going to happen in the pages I have yet to read, but...

 ??? Where does the hair & henna come in?  It's just a thought but maybe this is the FF task?

I feel confident that Uchenna & Joyce would have no problem with this task, especially after Joyce had to lose all her hair in U/J's previous race.  It seems to me that it would provide another cultural experience to what they where feeling that makes this African leg special & meaningful to them on top of Uchenna's family ancestry ties to the region.

It's an easy enough task to let them make and complete a FF to get them in before the others...

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 03:08:50 PM
NDIrish - U/J can't take the FF because we see shots of them in the promo doing the Roadblock!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 03:15:50 PM
Yeah - espically since we have a goddamn 2 hour episode next week! I swear, I hope they have no episode one week, then at least we will get a 2 hour finale!

Thank god puddin said season 12 has been given the unofficial green light, now i have that to look forward to!
CBS says there is a show on April 8th ( Easter ).
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 03:17:44 PM
Yeah - I found out yesterday - but you never know, they might have one week without an episode for one reason or the other? If not then oh well, bring on TAR12 baby!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 03:34:24 PM
Sooooo ah-bviously the roadblock is NOT right before the pitstop, && EDEE && U/J could very well be teams 4 and 5. I think the detour coould be AFTER the roadblock.

the lighting is proof enough to me that the Pitstop is near the Roadblock..you can see the dusk ( or dawn, lol ) light reflecting in U/J's vehicle rear mirror.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/22Mar0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/20Mar0021.jpg)
Pitstop
**Uchenna & Joyce are overcome with emotions when they see local people who makes them think about themselves.
 (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_22Mar0007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_index.jpg) Uchenna: my father's from Nigeria
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/phil6/th_20Mar0024.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/ep6/th_20Mar0023.jpg)Eric/Dee conf: Danielle doesn't have any hunter or gathering skills she has more shopping and dining skills..

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: NDIrish on March 25, 2007, 04:13:18 PM
I heard TAR12 has the unofficial green light  :happy:

yay! now all we need is the official announcement and I will be happy. Hopefully we get some awesome spoilers to keep us entertained over the summer, like the Kuwait spoilers last June, or Izads spoilers last December!


CBS is already has taken applications for TAR12, so even though it hasn't been announced officially...it seems to me that since CBS took the applications makes it official.  A copy of the application can be Googled with "The Amazing Race 12 application".

 :plane: For the cities they went to for the applications and interviews, it looks like they went to:
Los Angeles, New York City, Seattle, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, Boston, Denver and Atlanta.

And then according to Wikipedia...
The TAR12 applications had a deadline of Jan. 16th, which is now passed the deadline.
The semi-finalist interviews were held last month in February and some are being finished up now in March.
The final casting will be done next month in April.
The filming is said to happen between June and August of this summer.
So...it looks like TAR12 will be on the Fall schedule.


 :trampb:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2007, 04:18:09 PM
Who knows?? :lol: :lol:

And what is worse?? We have absolutely NO idea what happens next week! I'm hoping they do more in Tanzania/Kenya but we really don't know.....So keep your fingers crossed for an excellent preview!

My take on the Charla/Mirna "life or death in the game" risky move? I wonder if there was a FF that they went for but for whatever reason could not/would not do--leaving them to scramble back to mid-pack. There are certainly things that Charla would not be capable of doing (like the bike task in their last season) and somehow I don't see Mirna shaving her head--WHAT would she do with the hot rollers?? :lol3:

We are still missing screenshots of the henna/hair plaiting, and no one has swum with our generic "Philpper" dolphin yet either--both of which could turn up this week or next. If this week --it won't be a task--but next week? Anything goes!


NDIrish--that's a fairly generic schedule --BVM has said he wants to keep doing it and is just waiting for CBS to pick it up--so I'll bet they are waiting to see post Romber ratings before giving the final thumbs-up!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 04:19:10 PM
Watch and listen for the locals to yell .. JAMBO! JAMBO! to the BQ's  :hearts:

The people in Pemba are incredibly friendly. They are so unused to seeing foreigners that they are open and welcoming to all. In outlying areas children may burst out crying at the sight of the strange wasungu (white people), especially at the sight of long blonde hair. Wherever you pass you will be accompanied by the screams of jambo! jambo!





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Post by: NDIrish on March 25, 2007, 04:21:44 PM
NDIrish - U/J can't take the FF because we see shots of them in the promo doing the Roadblock!


 :happy:  I see that now Michael, now that I finally caught myself back up sifting through all the posts and pages.  I almost need an Excedrin bottle with all the volleying back and forth on which team is where, on it being dusk or dawn, who's on which airplane, etc... :rotf:
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 04:28:17 PM
I know its NOT the same ..
eta: this picture came from an album labeled Zanzibar

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 25, 2007, 04:39:39 PM
There has been speculation that the first and second teams to arrive at the pit stop have a huge lead on the others; perhaps as much as 24 hours.  If this turns out to be the case, you can bet dollars for doughnuts that TPTB will arrange that all six remaining teams bunch up at leasts once or twice at the beginning of the next ep.  No way will TPTB let one team get that far ahead of the others.

And if Phil had to come back from the original planned pit stop, when does he do his standup introducing the site?  Also we should watch closely tonight to see how the instructions to proceed to the pitstop is handled?  Remember how the detour  which had scenes of Uchenna and Joyce starting the rock climb shown in the promo were cleverly edited out with a "voice over" comment that they would try the other task (can't recall exactly what it was but all teams did it and not the rock climb)
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 04:42:24 PM
again this album labeled only Zanzibar


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Post by: mswood on March 25, 2007, 04:57:47 PM
G-Man actually sorry Peach

I do't know if the producers would deliberately change he schedule for teams to stop tehm.

But what wouldn't surprise me (since they do race the legs in advance) is that its possible the plan all the Hours of Operations points as being specific for only a certain day.

Ie just because say a shop, says its open at 8am to say 6pm.  It may only be open on the day the expect the teams to arrive at that point.

Thus allowing for the teams to genearlly be on the same day (except for an occasionaly last team that screws up bad). no matter what.

So unless the first group of teams is just the ones on time and all other groups reallys crew up andd put themselves a day behind, then the producers wouldn't have to change anything.

Though wouldn't it be kind of awesome if say this group (U & J, Eric & Danielle, Joe & Bill and Teri & Ian) are nearly a day behind.  And that somehow, Eric & Danielle manage by Izad's spoiled episode, to catch back up while the otherss slowly get eliminated and why Uchenna & Joyce are still so far behind in that episode.

People would be howling when they win.  Howling in the streets.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2007, 05:09:09 PM
Two more things...

I think the "logs" we see the BQ's trundling around are really probably rolled up straw mats that they use for drying cloves...it can be seen in one of puddins pics upstream and I had a great one that unfortunately I can't access from work but that's my guess anyway!


And how could I forget my sweetie-pie baby with the nasty big bottle--if he is an orphan somewhere and Madonna or Joli or U/J don't want him--I do! I do! :hearts:
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Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 05:33:21 PM
An hour and a half until I get to watch it  :wohoo:
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Post by: apskip on March 25, 2007, 06:30:16 PM
mswood stated
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Though wouldn't it be kind of awesome if say this group (U & J, Eric & Danielle, Joe & Bill and Teri & Ian) are nearly a day behind.  And that somehow, Eric & Danielle manage by Izad's spoiled episode, to catch back up while the otherss slowly get eliminated and why Uchenna & Joyce are still so far behind in that episode.

I agree with this line of thinking. I do not believe that the producers manipulate anything except airplane flights and boardings(that flight to Singapore that would have given Colin and Christie a connection to Manila and unbeatable lead arrived just slightly too late; the momentous pull-back-in in San Juan). I think that whichever of Eric/Danielle, Charla/Mirna, Dustin/Kandice and Oswald/Danny does not get into the lead group by the end of this episode will have to move up later via Fast Forward.

There will be a reckoning in Kuala Lumpur, where the only remaining team not in my above group, Uchenna and Joyce, is expected to be 17 hours behind.


NOTE ADDED BY EDIT: Ha, ha, ha. My own words come back to haunt me. It's so obvious that the producers manipulate the "weather conditions" to prevent the dhows from sailing so that Charla/Mirna cannot get the larger lead that their risk-taking deserved.
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 25, 2007, 06:37:02 PM
Estimated Start time is now

                                            8:38EDT
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 06:50:32 PM
Alright guys - I'm off to watch TAR, it starts in 10 minutes!

It's been fun talking about this episode! *gets all cheesy* haha - yea right. Have fun watching! I will be back to discuss next week later!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 06:54:11 PM
Alright guys - I'm off to watch TAR, it starts in 10 minutes!

It's been fun talking about this episode! *gets all cheesy* haha - yea right. Have fun watching! I will be back to discuss next week later!
  (:;) ..No Fair!!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 06:55:29 PM
Puddin! GET OFFLINE!

Don't spoil it for yourself!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 06:57:23 PM
but spoiling is what I love the best  :lol: ..its the OCD I tell ya  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 25, 2007, 07:03:43 PM
but spoiling is what I love the best  :lol: ..its the OCD I tell ya  :jumpy:
I am telling you.  I want to just know who comes in first, because that will tell everything.

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 08:40:45 PM
No wonder we had trouble with this stupid leg
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 09:03:39 PM
But it was fun trying Michael  :wohoo:
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Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 09:05:59 PM
haha - yeah it was! But i'm afraid the promo for the next episode gave us even LESS To go on.
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Post by: charlierose on March 25, 2007, 09:07:20 PM
Theres still something I'm not reading right about Phils interview
Phil arrives at the original Pitstop in the dead of night
Plans change, logistics..teams can't make it to the pitstop which is a 2 hour flight away or 9 hours driving?
Phil asks the crew if they could fly them back in the morning
Crew says no
So Phil & production fly back with the crew at night and get to the new pitstop at 3am?
then Phil & crew go out in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
"There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes"



Time will tell  :wohoo:



Do we have any proof that this happened this episode???
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 09:08:57 PM
I think what we saw was when the teams were TRYING to fly to Tanzania and couldn't leave until the next day
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 25, 2007, 09:54:19 PM
Theres still something I'm not reading right about Phils interview
Phil arrives at the original Pitstop in the dead of night
Plans change, logistics..teams can't make it to the pitstop which is a 2 hour flight away or 9 hours driving?
Phil asks the crew if they could fly them back in the morning
Crew says no
So Phil & production fly back with the crew at night and get to the new pitstop at 3am?
then Phil & crew go out in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
"There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes"



Time will tell  :wohoo:



Do we have any proof that this happened this episode???

This really doesn't sound like this episode.  We have Phil there in all is glory at the Old Fort waiting to greet Schmirma and the others.  When the first team arrives it is perhaps late afternoon - and he is still there the next morning when Bill and Joe finally arrive.  Besides Zanzibar is not connected anywheres by a nine hour road trip. 

May be interesting in the next leg, if the first teams C/M and the Chas leave before the last teams arrive.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2007, 10:01:29 PM
I think it was here--not even a greeter for company!

So guess we'll not get to see much of Tanzania except a little more in Zanzibar next week.

Wonder if we will end up with missing screencaps that properly go with the missing leg? (dolphin, sweetie-pie baby with icky bottle, henna painting and hair plaiting?)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 10:15:10 PM
I think it was here--not even a greeter for company!

So guess we'll not get to see much of Tanzania except a little more in Zanzibar next week.

Wonder if we will end up with missing screencaps that properly go with the missing leg? (dolphin, sweetie-pie baby with icky bottle, henna painting and hair plaiting?)



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Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2007, 10:23:24 PM
OOPS! Must have blinked and missed that--Thanks!

(in my defense--I've been up since 5 and had a hellacious day at work! :lol:)
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 10:26:13 PM
I understand peach..plus the show to me tonight was as if it was 2 hours with all the confusion with the flights! I can't wait to see the time-line  :happy:
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 10:58:11 PM
I'm still pissed about this  :lol3: ..it never clicked in my head that it was from the future!!

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Post by: michael on March 25, 2007, 10:59:08 PM
Yeah! it looks exactly like the last confessional LOL
that would have helped us a lot!
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 11:00:38 PM
We were all over the Fortaleza de Maputo looking for those stupid steps  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 11:02:09 PM
Poor Dee :grins:

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 25, 2007, 11:26:09 PM
Just finished watching.
Quote from: Apskip
What you saw was a producer-invented strategic delay to make sure that what happened in Thailand in AR1 did not happen in Tanzania in AR11. There was no really bad weather.
Agreed.  I can't believe what I saw is what the producers wanted. The problems with a wide-open field:
Charter flights or pre-arranged seats would have helped this leg; whoever did the advance work missed a few things.
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 25, 2007, 11:46:42 PM
I'm not sure if this is the mystery pitstop or just the next destination, but I'll throw it in this thread. Producers give "special thanks" to the Moivaro Lodge (http://www.moivaro.com/moivaro_coffee_lodge.htm) in Arusha, which would maybe be 2 hrs. by plane.

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Post by: mswood on March 25, 2007, 11:54:35 PM
Well it sounds like from two clips that there was a Fast Forward.  It looks like none of the early teams used it since they were significantly ahead (save it for later), while none of the back teams used it since they assumed the others did and teh attempt would put them further back and possible out of the race.
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Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 11:55:50 PM
Good find Slowhatch!!  :jumpy:
Slowhatch..
Can you snag the Chas confessional for me in the spoiler boards?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 25, 2007, 11:57:03 PM
Well it sounds like from two clips that there was a Fast Forward.  It looks like none of the early teams used it since they were significantly ahead (save it for later), while none of the back teams used it since they assumed the others did and teh attempt would put them further back and possible out of the race.
I got the feeling that there wasn't one mswood just that they talked about it? Thats my take anyway and I'm always wrong  :lol:
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Post by: mswood on March 26, 2007, 12:04:09 AM
Puddin, I think there had to be.  THe first one with Joyce & Uchenna & Oswald & Danny sems like just a maybe.  But this is all before the teams get out in front (maybe Charla & Mirna have left, but it looksl ike its still the night).

But later with Eric & Danielle & the Guidos, Its after the lead teams have left, and they even joke about how Charla & MIrna are probably 3 days ahead, and how they aren't going to go for it.  Sounds a lot more definite.

And it makes a tremendous amount of sense.

Charla & Mirna wants that get to the location know they are ahead.  Even at the docks they know they will be three hours ahead.

Uchenna & Joyce Oswald & Danny, Dustin & Kandice all know they are significantly ahead of the next group (much more then the 30 minutes they have to worry about).

So why do it.  You waste it.

Erc & Danielle who are just a couple hours ahead of the last two teams it makes no sense for them, if they feel the early teams might have gone for it.

And with the back two teams, again.  You can't give up the time, just on the off hand chance that not one of the 5 other teams took it.

Now I could be wrong (Ha, Never).  But I bet I am right.
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 26, 2007, 12:25:43 AM
You mean this thing, Puddin? This is the best I can do now. I might have better resolution in 24 hrs. Just a guess: Macau.
Or maybe malaysia. Maybe that's a flag next to his ear.

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Post by: puddin on March 26, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
thats it Slowhatch  :kissy: ..
they are awful dressed up too don't you think?
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Post by: puddin on March 26, 2007, 12:36:49 AM
Nevermind!!

EP1 from tarflies gallery   (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery2/v/tar11/ep01/QDVD_0224.jpg.html) :groan:

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 01:19:15 AM
Google Earth has one it's ultra high rez pockets in Zanzibar.  You can see kids and cats.

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Post by: mswood on March 26, 2007, 01:26:04 AM
Oh and Chateau here's hoping you can get some shadows off of the long shots of Phil to get arrival times for at least three teams (charla & Mirna, Oswald & Danny and The Guidos to give us a time frame to work with.
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: mswood on March 26, 2007, 01:32:36 AM
What date are we on in TAR time?


PUDDIN, the Charla/Mirna and Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce and Dustin/Kandice arrivals at the dock in Dar-es-Salaam were on Saturday Dec. 2. Their trips across to Zanzibar and finsh at the pitstop were all on Sunday Dec. 3.
Eric/Danielle arrived at the dock Sunday late afternoon and finished up 3 hours behind U/J adn D/K Sunday night.
Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri got across to Zanzibar late Sunday night, but hours of operation stopped them until Monday morning Dec. 4 at the museum. After that, they went through the rungu toss and to the pitstop fairly quickly.

I predict that there will be a mass bunching of the top 5 teams getting to the next site, which I still think has to be Africa and probably in the Nairobi area. The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and D/K.

Apskip, how do you figure Eric & Dnaielle are only 3 hours back from D & K and U & J and I don't recall an hours of operation.  Am i missing somethinI mean not having check the time to travel.  But with a three hour difference between boats 1 and two and the 2cd boat departing at 8:30 am.  I would assume that there is still a three hour difference between teh 3rd and 4th boat, but that isn't known.  What is known is that they departed before Sunset, which should be 6 something p.m so Eric & Dee could ahve left around 5pm.

But thats a whole 8 and a half hours difference in time of departure.

I mean just from this, if no delays due to any variables that I am unaware of and if teams all took roughlyt he same time to travel and do taks.  Then we should see that

Charla & Mirna & Oswald and Danny check in late afternoon that day (notice the long shadows on Phil.  So I guess around 4:30pm

Then add a three hour and a half hour gap with U&J (due to penality) and doing all the same taks.

So I would guess a time of 8:00 pm
Dustin & Kandice probably around 15-30 minutes later.

And then Eric & Danielle at roughly at nearly 12 hours after Charla & Mirna & Oswald & Danny at say 3:30 (or maybe the mention 3am from Phil's interview (having to go back out a 3 am to check in a team.).

Then Guidos say 2 and a half or 3 hours after that.  For a time after Sunrise say at around 6:30am to 7:00 am.

If I am even close to being correct it still leaves the first group a nearly unheard of lead of around 14-15 hours over the last team.  Of course this could be the 17 hour mentioned or that could be a later leg.

SO comeon Chateau, apskip show me where I 've screwed up.
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 26, 2007, 01:43:40 AM
You mean this thing, Puddin? This is the best I can do now. I might have better resolution in 24 hrs. Just a guess: Macau.
Or maybe malaysia. Maybe that's a flag next to his ear.
Yeah, the flag next to Danny's ear looks awfully like the Malaysian flag.


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Post by: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 02:43:48 AM
I think you got it about right.  I think Charla & Mirna checked in roughly in the 3 to 5 pm range and Teri & Ian checked out in the 6:30 to 7:30 am range.  I'll get better estimates later on.

Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 03:04:28 AM
With Slowhatch's lead it is pretty clear to me that Charla & Mirna triggered a "hold everything" reaction from production by being able to use the first dhow the day before.  The leg was originally planned to end in Arusha using some charter flights that would leave after the rungu toss.  I suspect the fish puzzle/log trucking detour was a planned contingency for just this situation.  That and putting the pit stop in the old fort.  Phil and production knew that they could have come back to Stone Town later than 3 AM and still met Charla & Mirna at the new pit stop.  They would need to be there from about 12 noon onward to be sure just in case the boat transport went fast.

Maybe the dhows were just really slow on this day.  How long is it supposed to take?  It looks like it took some teams 6 hours (WAG).  But anyway, production could see the dreaded 24  hour gap forming between first and last teams as soon as Charla & Mirna sweet talked their way onto the flight out of Jo-Burg.
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2007, 07:17:38 AM
What date are we on in TAR time?


PUDDIN, the Charla/Mirna and Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce and Dustin/Kandice arrivals at the dock in Dar-es-Salaam were on Saturday Dec. 2. Their trips across to Zanzibar and finsh at the pitstop were all on Sunday Dec. 3.
Eric/Danielle arrived at the dock Sunday late afternoon and finished up 3 hours behind U/J adn D/K Sunday night.
Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri got across to Zanzibar late Sunday night, but hours of operation stopped them until Monday morning Dec. 4 at the museum. After that, they went through the rungu toss and to the pitstop fairly quickly.

I predict that there will be a mass bunching of the top 5 teams getting to the next site, which I still think has to be Africa and probably in the Nairobi area. The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and D/K.

Apskip, how do you figure Eric & Dnaielle are only 3 hours back from D & K and U & J and I don't recall an hours of operation.  Am i missing somethinI mean not having check the time to travel.  But with a three hour difference between boats 1 and two and the 2cd boat departing at 8:30 am.  I would assume that there is still a three hour difference between the 3rd and 4th boat, but that isn't known.  What is known is that they departed before Sunset, which should be 6 something p.m so Eric & Dee could ahve left around 5pm.

But thats a whole 8 and a half hours difference in time of departure.

I mean just from this, if no delays due to any variables that I am unaware of and if teams all took roughlyt he same time to travel and do taks.  Then we should see that

Charla & Mirna & Oswald and Danny check in late afternoon that day (notice the long shadows on Phil.  So I guess around 4:30pm

Then add a three hour and a half hour gap with U&J (due to penality) and doing all the same taks.

So I would guess a time of 8:00 pm
Dustin & Kandice probably around 15-30 minutes later.

And then Eric & Danielle at roughly at nearly 12 hours after Charla & Mirna & Oswald & Danny at say 3:30 (or maybe the mention 3am from Phil's interview (having to go back out a 3 am to check in a team.).

Then Guidos say 2 and a half or 3 hours after that.  For a time after Sunrise say at around 6:30am to 7:00 am.

If I am even close to being correct it still leaves the first group a nearly unheard of lead of around 14-15 hours over the last team.  Of course this could be the 17 hour mentioned or that could be a later leg.

SO comeon Chateau, apskip show me where I 've screwed up.

mswood, your assumptions may be more correct than mine. Here are my assumptions and analysis in a little more detail:

1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but museum was not open after 10pm(assume it opened 6am).
2. Crossings take 6 (I/T) to 9 (D/K) hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones. I will use 6 except for D/K and U/J
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 30 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.

Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1400.
O/D finish line at 1410.
U/J finish line at 1945.
D/K finish line at 2015.
E/D finish line at 0125.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0745.

With this detail, I get 17 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 8 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in daylight when exiting the museum, which if they went out around 0230 would have been impossible.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2007, 07:30:27 AM
I'm not sure if this is the mystery pitstop or just the next destination, but I'll throw it in this thread. Producers give "special thanks" to the Moivaro Lodge (http://www.moivaro.com/moivaro_coffee_lodge.htm) in Arusha, which would maybe be 2 hrs. by plane.

Good catch, SLOWHATCH. That appears to be Mt. Kilimanjaro in the background. If it's the next area of action, then we are headed for the Kenya/Tanzania border and probably will see teams fly into Nairobi unless there are charters arranged(that Big Bunch for the top 5 would fit that scenario really well).
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: hakushu8 on March 26, 2007, 07:50:15 AM
Er, apskip... what museum? The Solve It detour was done in an inn, namely the Beyt al Chai. (http://www.stonetowninn.com/) Picture below shows the reception area, which looks like the place where the teams did the task. And since it's an inn, I think it would be open overnight.

And I guess this is further evidence that the pit stop from last leg wasn't supposed to be the one. I'm not sure if this has been said already, but here goes. The cluebox looking device (silver in color) that's usually beside Phil/greeter when they're waiting at the pit stop (I just used this one from Ep. 4 as a reference) can't be seen at all in the pit stop. I think they didn't have time to transport it to Zanzibar, even though the pit stop is still in Tanzania.

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Post by: hakushu8 on March 26, 2007, 07:52:04 AM
Yay! Charla/Mirna back in Arusha! Kibaoni and Kavishe, here they come again! :lol3:
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: makz3d on March 26, 2007, 08:52:15 AM
I rewatched and didn't see where anyone had to wait for anything to open to do the puzzle.  I am tired after working all night so I may have missed it again.
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: gator27 on March 26, 2007, 09:06:46 AM
mswood, your assumptions may be more correct than mine. Here are my assumptions and analysis in a little more detail:

1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but museum was not open after 10pm(assume it opened 6am).
2. All crossings take about 3.5 hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones.
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 40 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.

Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1100.
O/D finish line at 1110.
U/J finish line at 1345.
D/K finish line at 1415.
E/D finish line at 2225.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0755.

With this detail, I get 10 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 8 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in daylight when exiting the museum, which if they went out around midnight would have been impossible.

Great timeline! :happy: :wohoo:

However, I think your math is off.  Based on your numbers above, Charla/Mirna are 21 hr ahead (11 am Day1 - 8 am Day2).
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2007, 09:50:08 AM
gator27, you are absolutely right with
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However, I think your math is off.  Based on your numbers above, Charla/Mirna are 21 hr ahead (11 am Day1 - 8 am Day2).
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 I meant 20 hours, 40 minutes (my math skills are exceedingly good), but my typing and proofreading skills suck.
Title: Re: EP7/EP8
Post by: gingerman28 on March 26, 2007, 11:53:58 AM
What date are we on in TAR time?


PUDDIN, the Charla/Mirna and Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce and Dustin/Kandice arrivals at the dock in Dar-es-Salaam were on Saturday Dec. 2. Their trips across to Zanzibar and finsh at the pitstop were all on Sunday Dec. 3.
Eric/Danielle arrived at the dock Sunday late afternoon and finished up 3 hours behind U/J adn D/K Sunday night.
Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri got across to Zanzibar late Sunday night, but hours of operation stopped them until Monday morning Dec. 4 at the museum. After that, they went through the rungu toss and to the pitstop fairly quickly.

I predict that there will be a mass bunching of the top 5 teams getting to the next site, which I still think has to be Africa and probably in the Nairobi area. The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and D/K.

Apskip, how do you figure Eric & Dnaielle are only 3 hours back from D & K and U & J and I don't recall an hours of operation.  Am i missing somethinI mean not having check the time to travel.  But with a three hour difference between boats 1 and two and the 2cd boat departing at 8:30 am.  I would assume that there is still a three hour difference between teh 3rd and 4th boat, but that isn't known.  What is known is that they departed before Sunset, which should be 6 something p.m so Eric & Dee could ahve left around 5pm.

But thats a whole 8 and a half hours difference in time of departure.

I mean just from this, if no delays due to any variables that I am unaware of and if teams all took roughlyt he same time to travel and do taks.  Then we should see that

Charla & Mirna & Oswald and Danny check in late afternoon that day (notice the long shadows on Phil.  So I guess around 4:30pm

Then add a three hour and a half hour gap with U&J (due to penality) and doing all the same taks.

So I would guess a time of 8:00 pm
Dustin & Kandice probably around 15-30 minutes later.

And then Eric & Danielle at roughly at nearly 12 hours after Charla & Mirna & Oswald & Danny at say 3:30 (or maybe the mention 3am from Phil's interview (having to go back out a 3 am to check in a team.).

Then Guidos say 2 and a half or 3 hours after that.  For a time after Sunrise say at around 6:30am to 7:00 am.

If I am even close to being correct it still leaves the first group a nearly unheard of lead of around 14-15 hours over the last team.  Of course this could be the 17 hour mentioned or that could be a later leg.

SO comeon Chateau, apskip show me where I 've screwed up.

mswood, your assumptions may be more correct than mine. Here are my assumptions and analysis in a little more detail:

1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but museum was not open after 10pm(assume it opened 6am).
2. All crossings take about 3.5 hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones.
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 40 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.

Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1100.
O/D finish line at 1110.
U/J finish line at 1345.
D/K finish line at 1415.
E/D finish line at 2225.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0755.

With this detail, I get 20 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 8 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in dayl;ight when exiting the museum, which if they went out around midnight would have been impossible.

Sorry, I think your time line is way out of line.  Note that when Charla and Mirna leap upon the mat, the sun is down low shining right into Phil's eyes.  Same is true for Oswald and Danny.  Later on we have Uchenna and Joyce arriving after sunset (it is dark out now so no way can it be only 1345.  At that hour the sun would be practically overhead and it would be bright, but it is dark)  Same goes for The Beauty Queens.  There is no way to judge the arrival of Eric and Dee.  The final two arrivals the next morning after sunrise look like good possibilities.

Not to make snap judgments, but the time line has to be rethought.  Perhaps the Dowl trip did take a lot longer than estimated.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 12:58:10 PM
Here's my quick look at the timeline on for Zanzibar.  I think we can make it work by using really long Dhow times. 

I can tweak the times when I review my tape.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
Here's my quick look at the timeline on for Zanzibar.  I think we can make it work by using really long Dhow times. 

I can tweak the times when I review my tape.

CHATEAU, the sea portion is anyone's guess. However, the land portion isn't. I think you are wildly overestimating the time to travel by taxi a 15 mile trip to and a 15 miles trip from the rungu toss site. Why 1 hour and 1.2 hours? Why not 30 minutes for each?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 26, 2007, 02:56:09 PM
Just for interest--one of the videos said that there was a religious exodus on, leading to all flights being full.

This could be the start of the hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca), which this year began Dec 28. For many pilgrims, this is a once in a lifetime trip, and I can believe that many would go far ahead of the actual start.

What I don't understand is why teams didn't look at other alternatives? Maybe a flight to Mombasa and local transport to Dar? Anything would have been better than sitting around an airport all day/night/day...


ETA: Mat Chats! Lots of good info there!

Guidos confirm hajj as an issue--

E/D confirm being behind by 12-14 hours

Phil confirms Old Fort Mat as his sleeping place with others (in E/D clip)

 BQ's (sunburnt) confirm a 9 hour boat ride

And is a FF clue green? Because in Ch/Mirna's you can see she is holding a clue packet that has a green (blue and red too) clue card
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Thanks Peach !  Now I can accommodate Apskip's land estimates.

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 26, 2007, 04:00:14 PM
Fantastic peach!!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 26, 2007, 04:04:28 PM
I'm not seeing the green clue

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2007, 04:53:48 PM

What I don't understand is why teams didn't look at other alternatives? Maybe a flight to Mombasa and local transport to Dar? Anything would have been better than sitting around an airport all day/night/day...



PEACH: nice try, but it did not result in superior results. There were no flights on Saturday that could get teams from Maputo to Mombasa. On Sunday, there was KQ440 connecting with KQ4616 in Nairobi, leaving Maputo at 1315 and arriving Mombasa at 2330. Since the last 2 teams arrived at the airport in DAR around 1830, they were way ahead by not attempting Mombasa, which is still about 6 hours away by land from DAR.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 26, 2007, 05:14:28 PM
Puddin

Since I say there is a Fast Forward... There is a Fast Forward.  But looking at the bundles of the clue.  We can clearly see the yellow one, teh red one, a blue one, and tehn we we see it waving, there is aother color below the blue one (in some it looks bluish, but in some shots it almost as a green tint to it.

My question is that part of the blue one or is it seperate. 

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 26, 2007, 05:17:18 PM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11734.0;attach=22911;image)

I think i see it in this picture  :yess:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on March 26, 2007, 05:19:47 PM
On your last picture of  Charla & Mirna.

We see on top a blue envelope (what the hell is that?
Then below it at a slightly different angle we have a darker color (where I assume Peach sees Green, i n which we can't see any wording or symbols (but if the Fast Forward, we wouldn't not enough of the card is visiable for either symbol or letter.

Then below that we see the yellow detour clue and then at the bottom of the stack we see the Red Roadblock clue.

So if not a Fast Forward what would that second envelope be?

I want to be right, I really want to be right.

Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 26, 2007, 06:04:11 PM
I know but I'm not telling :neener:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 26, 2007, 08:19:49 PM
I just rewatched but can't screen capture (thank goodness for puddin!)--

It comes nearly at the end of the clip when Mirna starts going thru her clue cards--the one I'll attach looks green to me when I watch in full screen mode but is almost impossible to tell in regular size--but I think there is at least the card!

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 26, 2007, 08:22:50 PM
I just rewatched and it doesn't look like a FF To me :groan:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 27, 2007, 10:57:48 AM
I just rewatched and it doesn't look like a FF To me :groan:

If it were a FF, when would they do it?  The tasks don't start until the reach Zanzibar Island, and they don't take much time to do.  And if someone did it right away, and the original pit stop was in Arusha, then they would have been off and running before the decision was made to change the pit stop I would think.  So I agree that there was no FF this leg.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 27, 2007, 01:52:17 PM
EP6 pictures are finally up here  (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race11/shows/ep06/photos.php?id=1)
And while I'm here some pictures of Arusha that I snagged from websites...



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/35378311_DSC01210.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/37306807_106Arusha.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/307834795_e15e6ae8b5.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/433825982_3f49e13f38.jpg)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: charlierose on March 27, 2007, 03:25:15 PM
Theres still something I'm not reading right about Phils interview
Phil arrives at the original Pitstop in the dead of night
Plans change, logistics..teams can't make it to the pitstop which is a 2 hour flight away or 9 hours driving?
Phil asks the crew if they could fly them back in the morning
Crew says no
So Phil & production fly back with the crew at night and get to the new pitstop at 3am?
then Phil & crew go out in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all.
"There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes"



Time will tell  :wohoo:



Do we have any proof that this happened this episode???

Hey you guys!!! I think this is exactly what happen this episode. The logistics Phil is talking about is the airport nightmare.  Then they had to change everything including the Old Fort pit stop.  I asume if the normal schedule of event keep going, it was going to be a nightmare for poor Phil and crew.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 27, 2007, 08:49:25 PM
Just to add a last little footnote:

Did you notice in the Elimination Hotel or whatever that Ian and Teri were flown all the way from Zanzibar to Acapulco?  So now we have all five eliminted teams enjoying the white sands and Margaritas in this paradise by the sea.  I wonder if the next elims will be sent here or to somewhere in the Pacific?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 27, 2007, 08:52:47 PM
Jill said there were only 5 teams in Acapulco so will the Elimination Station not exist anymore? lol what are they going to do? show us the 5 teams sitting around the pool in Acapulco wondering where the hell the next phliminated team is?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 27, 2007, 08:54:18 PM
Maybe there's a NEW elimination station! Now I'm curious!

I'm excited to call the finish line when D/K are on it! God bless CBS!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 27, 2007, 08:57:20 PM
Maybe there's a NEW elimination station! Now I'm curious!

I'm excited to call the finish line when D/K are on it! God bless CBS!
BORING! who wants to watch the Guidos & Uchenna zzzzzzzzzzzzz? the Cha's will go directly to End city seeing as they are eliminated on the 15th sooooooooooo no sequester for them.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: michael on March 27, 2007, 08:58:15 PM
Maybe when the Chas are eliminated we will get a full elimination station of them being fabulous and shopping at an airport!
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 27, 2007, 09:04:28 PM
Don't make me pull your rank :groan:


 :lol:
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 27, 2007, 10:36:11 PM
Jill said there were only 5 teams in Acapulco so will the Elimination Station not exist anymore? lol what are they going to do? show us the 5 teams sitting around the pool in Acapulco wondering where the hell the next phliminated team is?

2nd sequesterville is Nagoya Japan. I forgot exactly where I found this out. It should have Joe/Bill and Uchenna/Joyce.  They go on to Guam.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 27, 2007, 11:56:14 PM
Just in case anybody wanted to know, the dhows had to go about 55 miles.    :diver:

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Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: georgiapeach on March 28, 2007, 12:05:18 AM
Nice Chateau!

At 6-9 hours, they only go 6-9mph?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on March 28, 2007, 12:15:35 AM
Do you have more time-line to share Chateau :luvu: ?
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on March 28, 2007, 08:03:04 AM
Here is a modified version of my TIMELINE from post #438, slightly different from CHATEAU's due to my assumption that the puzzle place closed for 6 hours.

1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but puzzle place was not open after midnight(assume it opened 6am).
2. Crossings take 6 (I/T) to 9 (D/K) hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones. I will use 6 except for D/K and U/J
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 30 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.

Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1400.
O/D finish line at 1410.
U/J finish line at 1945.
D/K finish line at 2015.
E/D finish line at 0125.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0745.

With this detail, I get 17 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 6 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in daylight when exiting the museum, which if I/T and J/B landed Zanzibar around 0230 would have been impossible.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gator27 on March 28, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
Here is a modified version of my TIMELINE from post #438, slightly different from CHATEAU's due to my assumption that the puzzle place closed for 6 hours.

1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but puzzle place was not open after midnight(assume it opened 6am).
2. Crossings take 6 (I/T) to 9 (D/K) hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones. I will use 6 except for D/K and U/J
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 30 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.

Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1400.
O/D finish line at 1410.
U/J finish line at 1945.
D/K finish line at 2015.
E/D finish line at 0125.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0745.

With this detail, I get 17 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 6 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in daylight when exiting the museum, which if I/T and J/B landed Zanzibar around 0230 would have been impossible.

While the dhows had a prominent sail, they were also powered by an outboard motor.  The producers could have asked that some boats sail while others used power.  If any of the boats actually sailed from point A to Point B, wind direction will play a huge role in the path of travel.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 28, 2007, 09:52:01 AM
6 mph to 8 or 9 mph is very reasonable for a ship such as the Dhows.

With the angle of the sun directly into the eyes of Phil when C/M arrive seem to indicate that it is later than 1400.  Sunset in Zanzibar on Dec 5/6 was at 6:28PM so it looks like it should be later than 1400.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gator27 on March 28, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
6 mph to 8 or 9 mph is very reasonable for a ship such as the Dhows.

With the angle of the sun directly into the eyes of Phil when C/M arrive seem to indicate that it is later than 1400.  Sunset in Zanzibar on Dec 5/6 was at 6:28PM so it looks like it should be later than 1400.

What time did the sun rise that day?  Team Guido told Phil they were sorry to get him up so early.  7:45 am does not seem that early.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 28, 2007, 08:19:11 PM
Sunrise was at 6:00AM
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 10:54:07 AM
I don't know if this has been mentioned or will help the time-line..

But don't feel too sad for the Pollacks. As a consolation prize (and to keep them from talking about the race), they spent 10 days in a villa overlooking the Pacific in Acapulco.

source (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/accent/epaper/2007/04/01/tcxd_jeri_0401.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=2)
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: hakushu8 on April 01, 2007, 11:22:32 AM
Ten days... December 6-16? or December 5-15?

I wonder how the Elimination Station would be shown after Joe/Bill get sent to another Sequester place. Two minutes each for the two places, or give each Sequester spot four minutes worth of episodes? ???
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 12:44:41 PM
I'll bet we Elimination Station won't even exist but thats just a guess.
The 10 days T/I spent in sequester may not help afterall because were not sure how long it took them to get there and I'm only guessing they departed for End City on the 15th along with the other teams per Guam spoilers.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on April 01, 2007, 02:17:42 PM
Well since the teams ahd already left for the next leg (it sounded like that from There speaking), and we know that the Pit Stop was at least a 24 hour one if not longer.  And that they finished ont he fourth.  Its very likely that Teri & Ian took a full nother day to get to sequesterville.  That would put them probably arriving on the 6th.  And they would have needed less flying time back home then those who went through Guam, so they probably left ont he 16th or 17th, I would think.  But thats just an educated guess.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 03:08:12 PM
Info solid that U/J, Cha's, Guidos out of Guam on the 15th headed to HI. I'm not sure what day the Mexico sequesters would fly out? ..lets see what I can dig up from the interviews.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 03:16:07 PM
Were Kevin/Drew eliminated on 11/23 or 24?



RTVW interview with the Frats (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/interview--kevin-and-drew-talk-about-their-all-stars-experience-4764.php)

Reality TV World: How was Sequesterville?

Drew:  It was awesome.  It was awesome.  I loved it, Kevin hated it.  It was beautiful.  It was 23 days of great weather, a staff of seven people taking care of us.  It was awesome
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on April 01, 2007, 03:24:16 PM
The 23rd.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 03:35:30 PM
ok counting on my fingers  :lol3: ..how long do you think it took them to get to Mexico? If we count from the 24th thats puts 23 days as the 16th of Dec or of course from the 23rd that puts it on the 15th of Dec  :lol:. I suck at this ..
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: mswood on April 01, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
If they got to the resort on the 24th (which would be the earliest) then they were their at least until teh 16th.  If they arrived on the 25th, then they were there until the 17th.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: puddin on April 01, 2007, 04:37:51 PM
Looks like I needed one more finger  :bunny. I was counting 23 /24 as a day.
Title: Re: EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
Post by: apskip on April 01, 2007, 09:24:33 PM
Well since the teams ahd already left for the next leg (it sounded like that from There speaking), and we know that the Pit Stop was at least a 24 hour one if not longer.  And that they finished ont he fourth.  Its very likely that Teri & Ian took a full nother day to get to sequesterville.  That would put them probably arriving on the 6th.  And they would have needed less flying time back home then those who went through Guam, so they probably left ont he 16th or 17th, I would think.  But thats just an educated guess.

Definitely leaving Acapulco and arriving SFO on the 16th. The producers would not risk flight problems by brining them in between midnight and 10am on the 17th.