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Title: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 06:28:26 PM
 UshuaiaSighter   (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=7265.topic&start=1413&stop=1420) posted (11/28/06 )@ sucks at 5:13 pm.
*Hi to all. I'm doing a trip through South America and I'm now in Ushuaia, Argentina (southern most city in the world).
*About an hour ago Bill and Joe (Team Guido) entered an internet cafe/calling center (locutorio) with a cameraman and a soundman. They wanted to call a few airlines (Aerolinas Argentinas and South African Airlines). I guess they are heading to South Africa then.Sorry for the quality of the pictures. I was in a rush and the cameraman was intimidating! "

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*Hi, me again. A few more informations:
The locutario where the pics were taken was at the corner of 25 de Mayo and San Martin in Ushuaia. It was taken at about 19h15 Ushuaia time (17h15 NYC). The sunset here is at about 22h15.
*The girl is definetly not Emily. Sorry guys. It was just a Fern.
It still takes a long time to get to Antarctica from Ushuaia, by boat at least (a few days). So if they went to Antartica, it was by small planes.
I spent the last 2 days around town and haven't seen anybody else. I also went to most of the landmarks in Ushuaia yesterday evening to try to find a pitstop, detour or roadblock, without sucess. And Ushuaia is not a big town, so I guess they just stopped in town to call. The others might have gone straight to the airport. Bill and Joe probably arrived by bus because the buses around here drop you at the corner of Maipu and 25 de Mayo. The locutario they were in would be the first you see after being dropped from a bus. So I guess the pitstop was eather in the Tierra del Fuego Natl Park, or maybe at Estancia Harberton (the biggest and oldest estancia in Tierra del Fuego, typical TAR pitstop).

*I think they already had their plane tickets out of Ushuaia to probably Buenos Aires. It's a pain to get out of Ushuaia by eather plane or bus these days. You have to book way in advance. So it would be impossible for 8-9 teams + crew to just hop on a plane. So I guess the tickets were handed to them, with 2 or 3 departing times.

*Finally, the guidos didn't look like they were in a really good mood. They had their serious face. It doesn't really indicate anything but they might have been at the middle or the back of the pack.

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 Maputo/Mozambique, Africa (  dates? )

  nkatekwan  (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=6838231) posted at Twop's
Some friends of mine are Peace Corps vols in Mozambique and claim that the race came through Maputo sometime between Thanksgiving and December 7. One of the destinations was the old Portuguese fort (pictured here: http://tabisite.com/gallery_af/mozambique/91af265.jpg). Unfortunately they didn't have any other details. This does seem consistent with the spoilers that teams were on their way to South Africa, as Maputo is usually reached through Joburg

  Maputo: Portuguese fort on East Timor street (http://www.travel-images.com/view.shtml?mozambique8.jpg)

Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg173787.html#msg173787) finds a blog entry posted on Dec 8th
* I think this is the blog (http://peacecorpsmoz.blogspot.com/) of the Peace Corps workers mentioned earlier. It's only a couple of lines near the bottom of the page:
**p.s. They just filmed the amazing race in Maputo!! I don´t know any details but I have been to the fort where the pit stop was.

Chateau d if:  
*Here is the fort:  Fort of Nossa Senhora da Conceiao, GE even has the "ring of cannons" Picture link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxzanne/293267492/)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_index.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/)
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 06:32:34 PM
5 south america episodes?
 (:;)

THAT SUCKS
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: mswood on March 04, 2007, 06:36:43 PM
Poor Puddin :jam:

Something to drown your sorrows with, cheers.
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: qing_her on March 04, 2007, 10:33:30 PM
mswood... include me  :'(

this is the spoiled first episode without Romber  :'(
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: GnarlyMarly on March 05, 2007, 01:26:23 AM
So I'm guessing this is the Mozambique episode? Since next week they end up in Ushuaia.
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 01:40:20 AM
Probably Marly, they are due for a 36 hour pitstop. Watching the insider clips the teams are complaining about lack of sleep as well as all the driving.
Leaving South America finally..thank God huh?
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: xRyannex on March 05, 2007, 04:49:40 PM
really hope they go to africa this episode!

i missed south america after watching AR10, but i've had enough now!

Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: gingerman28 on March 05, 2007, 05:05:13 PM
5 south america episodes?
 (:;)

THAT SUCKS

Hey, South America ain't all bad.  I lived there for 12 years! 
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 05, 2007, 06:33:16 PM
YAY!!!! :yess: NO more SA!! lol i like Suth America but 5 episodes??? That's a little to much for me.
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: apskip on March 05, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
CHOCOHOLIC90196 said "YAY!!!!  NO more SA!! lol i like Suth America but 5 episodes??? That's a little to much for me."
GMAN said "Hey, South America ain't all bad.  I lived there for 12 years!"

I have good news for CHOCOHOLIC: It's only 4 episodes in South America since episode 4 will be a combined PUNTA ARENA/USHUAIA leg and then teams will get a 36 hour extended rest stop before flying out to Africa.   
 
 
 
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: hakushu8 on March 07, 2007, 01:38:46 AM
So any guesses on what the tasks they would do here? I'm thinking it could be related to the fish in the opening sequence, (although no one has really ascertained that the fish came from here), so maybe a market task? And maybe also a task in the Fort?

I hope the Mozambique leg won't disappoint.
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: Big Papi on March 08, 2007, 11:40:25 AM
So any guesses on what the tasks they would do here? I'm thinking it could be related to the fish in the opening sequence, (although no one has really ascertained that the fish came from here), so maybe a market task? And maybe also a task in the Fort?

I hope the Mozambique leg won't disappoint.

Maybe 3/4 dozen clams on the half-shell with fresh lemon juice and some good hot sauce?
Title: Re: EP5: ( ?? )
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2007, 01:17:20 PM
So any guesses on what the tasks they would do here? I'm thinking it could be related to the fish in the opening sequence, (although no one has really ascertained that the fish came from here), so maybe a market task? And maybe also a task in the Fort?

I hope the Mozambique leg won't disappoint.

HAKUSHU8, a task at the pitstop is not impossible, but I don't think it's likely.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: michael on March 09, 2007, 12:07:09 AM
oooh title posted!!

i wonder who says it
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2007, 12:14:22 AM
About time huh!! No idea who would say it? Teri?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: michael on March 09, 2007, 12:16:07 AM
Yeah I know haha i've been waiting for it:P

Hmm...it doesn't really sound like anything that any of the racers say..I could see Eric or Ian saying it..
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2007, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: UshuaiaSighter
It was taken at about 19h15 Ushuaia time
It doesn't take that long to get from Redonda to downtown, so unless there's some intermediate task it looks like an extended pitstop.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: makz3d on March 09, 2007, 11:00:42 AM
oooh title posted!!

i wonder who says it


Does anyone know about the cultural differences and customs in that part of the world?  Therefore, someone may have to watch their Ps & Qs
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 09, 2007, 05:17:17 PM
my guess is Eric
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 11:44:12 AM
I will post the intro-flash caps here of what we are guessing are all from East Africa but I am not sure which ones belong where but we should know more tonight after the show airs and I will edit out what pictures don't belong here but probably in upcoming future episodes....i.e. EP6 etc ...


Maputo, Mozambique/ Kenya ??/Tanzania?? /East Africa

14. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_14.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/14.jpg) Maputo Airport
24. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_24.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/24.jpg) mwooden: Maputo: Portuguese Maputo's Fort - Mozambique
32. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_32.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/32.jpg)Maputo City skyline

 
13. (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/th_13.jpg) (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/13.jpg) Boingo: The marimba or African xylophone can be found in Mozambique and Tanzania (as well as other places in Africa).





Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 11, 2007, 03:08:31 PM
PUDDIN, I recall seeing fish exactly like #19 in a Dar-Es-Salaam fish market photo that GEORGIA PEACH posted.

I also remember seeing the equivalent of the wall in #29 in Zanzibar photos that were posted, probably also by GEORGIA PEACH.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 08:05:52 PM
Well they didn't give us much..RATS!!

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Tritium on March 11, 2007, 08:07:25 PM
From the previews, the quote was from Guido.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 08:07:43 PM
That rat has a collar on !
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 11, 2007, 08:08:04 PM
Well, we don't need to use the bonus question "Who said the title line" since it was clearly stated in the preview of next week.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 08:14:26 PM
Album here  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/)

Phil: next week on the amazing race, tensions spark between Eric & Danielle and Joe & Bill.
Joe: you need to watch your jokes guys
Eric: you guys are just being freaks about everything...
Joe: don't even talk to me..
Bill: peace peace peace
Eric: freaks freaks freaks
Phil: and teams get up close and personal ..with a rat
Charla: My God thats a hugh damn rat..
Oswald: ohh grosse
Joyce: its cute
Ian: you dirty rat  :lol:


 
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Rob on March 11, 2007, 08:16:47 PM
Video:
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 08:20:57 PM
I think the Roadblock is to use the collared rats to make safe passage through a mine field.

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Tritium on March 11, 2007, 08:21:11 PM
Maybe some useful info here? http://www.distant.ca/UselessFacts/fact.asp?ID=215
African Gambian Pouch rats, also known as the African giant pouch rat are the largest rats in the world. They grow to 13-17 inches from tip of nose to the base of the tail and the tail is about the same length or longer. They can be more than six pounds. They live in forests and thickets in from Senegal to Central Sudan and down to South Africa.

From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambian_Pouch_Rat
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 08:26:31 PM
Here is an article (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1282859.htm).

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African rat sniffs out Mozambique landmines

A giant African rat has become man's second best friend as it joins forces with the dog to sniff out landmines in Mozambique.

The Belgian de-mining research group APOPO has eight of the rodents working alongside dogs and metal detectors on a minefield in Mozambique's coastal town of Vilanculos, some 650 kilometres north-east of the capital Maputo.

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Texan on March 11, 2007, 08:37:23 PM
Youare fast puddin, THanks
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2007, 08:47:54 PM
The Apopo (http://www.apopo.org/newsite/content/index.htm) site is interesting; no mention of TAR I could find, but all the rat videos, rat pictures, Hero the rat mascot, and rat news you could want. Even with the flack jackets, I can't believe the producers would expose the racers to any real danger. Maybe it's an "amazing" minefield.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: michael on March 11, 2007, 10:15:13 PM
I think they showed a confessional of the guidos from this episode in episode four, because they were wearing the same yellow shirts.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 11, 2007, 10:22:10 PM
Since we believe that the pitstop is going to be at the fort in Maputo, is it possible that there are some additional giant rats working elsewhere nearer to Maputo?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 10:25:01 PM
I think they showed a confessional of the guidos from this episode in episode four, because they were wearing the same yellow shirts.
Michael, I added those screencaps above in the slideshow.

( cute avatar Slowhatch!)
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 11:04:28 PM
Clues:
*Eric & Danielle taunt Joe & Bill, which quickly escalates into a war of words.

*Teams are reeling after the departure of Rob & Amber.

*Teams get up close and personal with..a rat!

*Friction begins to develop between Oswald and Danny.

*An AIDS march hits close to home with Danny.

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 11, 2007, 11:16:56 PM
World aids day was 01 Dec (http://www.unicef.org/mozambique/media_3023.html), but no info yet on where in Maputo the march took place.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: michael on March 12, 2007, 12:12:34 AM
I hope the challenges begin getting more interesting!!

And I hope dustin and kandice begin wearing hotter clothes! :)
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2007, 12:32:13 AM
I only see one member of each team wearing the body armor, and the card Mirna is holding looks red, so maybe a Roadblock. Some info on the search string from the Apopo site:
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The rat is guided by a search string, which is connected between its two trainers. The rat moves systematically up and down the search string, processing lane by lane through the suspected box. Both trainers take position at opposite sides of the box in the safe lane, fixing the search string to the lower leg. When a rat reaches the end of the box, the operators make a lateral step, and the rat moves into the next lane. A box or lane system provides the safe access lanes for the trainers. APOPO is using 5 by 20 meter boxes, which means that the rat has to search 40 lanes of half a meter to clear one box.

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: dark alessa on March 12, 2007, 03:50:53 AM
Thanks a lot amazing race my nephew again will be glue to his seat next sunday when amazing race is on show the team member walking the big rat and last time when amazing race the show big construction trucks where team members where working on and it happen to be my newphew thinks construction trucks are awesome...

sorry about my grammar .


p.s any by chance their going to show a monster trucks on amazing race?


Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Jetgabriel on March 12, 2007, 05:42:38 AM
I wonder what the Detour is,there has been no sign of it.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 11:24:58 AM
Video is up  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=52712.58770275873)

album here  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/?start=all) 
VO: with Rob & Amber gone its anyones race
Mirna conf: the other teams were very happy that WE kicked them out of this amazing race
VO: CBS Sunday, some teams stay clean
Joe/Bill: theres nothing like a quick shower
VO: some get dirty
Dani: not touching any of these people feet
VO: but when they signed up for this adventure ..
Mirna/Chala: lets sing a song in your country " lalalalalal"
VO: but if they knew they'd be getting into a real rat race ..
Ozzy: grosse!
BQ?: he has a collar!
Joyce: its cute!
VO: new Amazing Race All-Stars ...

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 12, 2007, 11:51:29 AM
ROADBLOCK sure looks like the Rat Race.  We see Charla, Ian, Eric, Kandice (?) wearing the protective clothing and Danny, Joyce, a BQ all watching together.  Danny has Roadblock red banner clue in his hand.  Also looks like many of the teams are doing the task together.
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Also looks like a little sliding on a glacier in Argentina before departing for Africa.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
Clues: ( no pictures, darn )

RACERS DEPART ARGENTINA AND HEAD TO MOZAMBIQUE WHERE ONE TEAM’S TAUNTING OF ANOTHER TEAM QUICKLY ESCALATES INTO A WAR OF WORDS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS"
SUNDAY, MARCH 18, 8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT

"You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy" - -  During a Roadblock, Teams must get up close and personal with a rat in order to receive their next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, March 18, (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 12, 2007, 01:06:22 PM
Thoughts/Info on latest preview pics (thanks puddin!):

Joe spraying himself with the perfume, or some hair product... due to the possible layover the Guidos got in Ushuaia, as indicated in the spoiler?

Mammut (http://www.mammut.ch/mammut/katalog.asp?view=detail&did=10&dart=3&tid=5115&sid=2) labeled device used for avalanche rescue. Possibly getting a clue from within the snow of the glacier/mountain/wherever they were here?

Giving pedicure as a possible, and very wierd detour? Whilst the other detour is the henna tattoo one (assuming it's here)?

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 01:40:22 PM
I hope thats the "Heena" shop from the introflash so that we could put it to rest  :groan:!!
Welcome to the TAR detectives hakushu8  :jam:

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1087773

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 01:44:47 PM
Heres Ushuaia's travel blog  (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=fr_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.travelblog.org%2FSouth-America%2FArgentina%2FUshuaia%2Fblog-107240.html) about his Guido sighting and his day.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 12, 2007, 01:53:59 PM
We just saw glacier scenes in the preview of Episode 5. Episode 4 contained an unexpected 16 hour rest stop. I believe that the  36 hour rest stop we had predicted is now out the window. The most logical place for glaciers is in the Chilean portion of Tierra del Fuego National Park, which they are close to while staying on Isla Redonda in the Argentinian portion of that park. I predict that the glacier scenes will take up the entire following day (Nov. 27) and that somehow Joe and Bill get behind the rest enough to miss the Nov. 28 morning flight to Buenos Aires, which as I have pointed our before does not cost them anything.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 02:10:47 PM
what are the odds?  :hides ( note the aquas & blues )
....just throwing it out there

Filipe Marrengula Beauty Salon (http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businesses&action=about&id=1879)
 Location: Boane, Maputo , Mozambique




 
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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 02:43:47 PM
The Poutugese fort is near Boane, Maputo
Map  (http://www.maplandia.com/mozambique/maputo/)

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 02:47:00 PM
from this album  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alvinsingh/53786023/)

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: banzai on March 12, 2007, 02:51:46 PM
Did anyone post the confession shots yet?

(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle2.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_danielle2.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_danielle1.jpg)

(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_mirna1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_mirna1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 12, 2007, 02:54:53 PM
We just saw glacier scenes in the preview of Episode 5. Episode 4 contained an unexpected 16 hour rest stop. I believe that the  36 hour rest stop we had predicted is now out the window. The most logical place for glaciers is in the Chilean portion of Tierra del Fuego National Park, which they are close to while staying on Isla Redonda in the Argentinian portion of that park. I predict that the glacier scenes will take up the entire following day (Dec. 27) and that somehow Joe and Bill get behind the rest enough to miss the Dec. 28 morning flight to Buenos Aires, which as I have pointed our before does not cost them anything.

I really do think you mean NOV. 27.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gator27 on March 12, 2007, 03:26:47 PM
Did anyone post the confession shots yet?

(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle2.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_danielle2.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_danielle1.jpg)

(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_mirna1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_mirna1.jpg)

I would say the warmer looking confessionals are in Africa.  You also notice in the preview clips that Eric/Dani and Smrina are wearing the same 'warm weather' clothes.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gator27 on March 12, 2007, 03:30:08 PM
We just saw glacier scenes in the preview of Episode 5. Episode 4 contained an unexpected 16 hour rest stop. I believe that the  36 hour rest stop we had predicted is now out the window. The most logical place for glaciers is in the Chilean portion of Tierra del Fuego National Park, which they are close to while staying on Isla Redonda in the Argentinian portion of that park. I predict that the glacier scenes will take up the entire following day (Dec. 27) and that somehow Joe and Bill get behind the rest enough to miss the Dec. 28 morning flight to Buenos Aires, which as I have pointed our before does not cost them anything.

I really do think you mean NOV. 27.

Don't forget that the teams had 24 hr between when they signed up for the charter planes until their departure.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 03:35:49 PM
It looks like hours of operation at the Roadblock so no, it probably doesn't matter whos behind.

(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle2.jpg)

EDees, insiderclip  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=132156&ord=22714.816180767022)

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Post by: apskip on March 12, 2007, 04:04:51 PM
We just saw glacier scenes in the preview of Episode 5. Episode 4 contained an unexpected 16 hour rest stop. I believe that the  36 hour rest stop we had predicted is now out the window. The most logical place for glaciers is in the Chilean portion of Tierra del Fuego National Park, which they are close to while staying on Isla Redonda in the Argentinian portion of that park. I predict that the glacier scenes will take up the entire following day (Dec. 27) and that somehow Joe and Bill get behind the rest enough to miss the Dec. 28 morning flight to Buenos Aires, which as I have pointed our before does not cost them anything.

I really do think you mean NOV. 27.

GMAN, you are absolutely right. I did mean Nov. 27 and Nov. 28. Thank you for correcting me. I have modified my post accordingly.
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Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 04:24:17 PM
Chateau had mentioned last night that the pitstop confessional maybe at the Moçambique Fort :).
So now that we know this we can probably say no ToBeCont.. probably just a NonElim.


 ( thanks for the nice pictures banzai)
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Here is the fort:  Fort of Nossa Senhora da Conceiao

GE even has the "ring of cannons"


Picture link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxzanne/293267492/)

Chateau's GE of the Fort---

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Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
sharper

it looks like the teams have to fill bags with dirt?

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Post by: michael on March 12, 2007, 06:20:28 PM
is that kandice and one of the guidos?
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Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 06:24:53 PM
yup and I'm pretty sure thats Uchenna & Joyce coming down the ramp or whatever you call it  ;D
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Post by: michael on March 12, 2007, 06:31:49 PM
Are they doing tasks before they leave to Africa because in some shots Kandice is wearing her blue jacket and her pink shirt, and in others she is wearing the sleeveless white shirt...
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 07:18:34 PM
It could be argued that Joe is wearing his ugly too tight yellow t-shirt also  :lol:
You can see they ar doing a task before leaving Argentina, navagating to find a clue in the snow whatever?
I don't know Mike, I'm not the airline flight expert so have no idea whats going on.

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Post by: michael on March 12, 2007, 07:20:01 PM
Oh well - either way I'm looking forward to see the next episode!  :jam:
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 07:27:21 PM
Remember they could just be landing in Buenos Aires from Ushuaia to catch a flight to Africa but really I don't know ? I'll try to catch up on the flight posts.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 07:39:17 PM
The Rapipago site  (http://www.rapipago.com.ar/SiteController.php?action=ViewPage&shortname=C_ENGLISH)

Yay spoilers! And yay Antarctica! :yess:

Not too many options from Ushuaia; the only substantial towns linked to it are Buenos Aires and Bariloche. Aerolineas Argentinas doesn't seem to fly to Africa, and South African doesn't fly to Argentina; the best Guido can do is connect in Europe or Brazil.

Does anyone know how the clock works on Sucks? Argentina doesn't run on daylight saving, and is two hours ahead of EST. Here are flights offered by Aerolineas Argentinas to Buenos Aires one week later; I've cleared those options that I don't think teams could make.

(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8721/ushuaiaargentinasmi5.jpg)

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8555/tar11spoilermapre4.th.jpg) (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tar11spoilermapre4.jpg)

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 07:43:04 PM
I think someone mentioned this already..Hike the Glacier Martial (http://www.welcomeargentina.com/paseos/glaciar_martial/index_i.html)



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Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2007, 08:02:42 PM
There are some similarities (photo source (http://www.vwtravellers.com/2/filer/argentina/05040020.jpg)), but I haven't found anything I'd call a match yet.

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Post by: michael on March 12, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
So my guess is the beginning of this leg they have to go hike on some mountain to get a route marker, then the clue tells them to fly to Africa where they complete the Detour and the Roadblock.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
For anyone working the timetables, the final connection looks like LAM (http://www.lam.co.mz/en).

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 12, 2007, 09:15:33 PM
Linhas Aereas de lMozambeque.  Check the website on the side of the plane: www.lam.co.mz  There are daily flights from Johansburgo to Maputo.  So this looks like the teams arriving first in Maputo or Dar es Salaam.  And it looks like at least three teams are bunched.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Kogs on March 12, 2007, 09:42:24 PM
we should be due for nel this episode
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Post by: apskip on March 12, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
I've brought over from my post #1700, page 69 of SPOILERS, the ep.5 segment of my ULTIMATE TIMELINE as a reminder since it seems to be forgotten:

5. Ushuaia 11/28 to Maputo
Leaders fly out on Aerolineas Argentinas 1886 from Ushuaia to Buenos Aires International 1030 to 1511; stragglers go on AR2811 2136 to 0056 arriving at Buenos Aires Domestic, requiring bus or taxi transfer to Buenos Aires International terminal
LAN Argentina 4554 Buenos Aires 1900 to 2135 Sao Paulo
LAN Argentina 4550 Buenos Aires 0805 to 1040 Sao Paulo
SAA206 Sao Paulo 1725 to 0715 Johannesburg
TM300 Johannesburg 0840 to Maputo 0940 11/30  (note: TM is the code for LAM)
NOTE that catching the earlier flight out of Ushuaia made no difference in arrival at Maputo due to once a day transatlantic flight.

Pitstop on evening of 12/1
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 10:45:01 PM
YAY helpers  :happy:

apskip thank you for bringing your ULTIMATE TIMELINE over  :kissy:. I can't always find what I am looking for :tup:

more evidence from the introcaps that they hit the Maputo Airport whether coming or going ..

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 13, 2007, 01:17:37 AM
This shot was taken here between 9:23 and 9:37 am (assumes November 30th).

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Post by: mswood on March 13, 2007, 01:26:14 AM
Chateau - You are so awesome.

Apskip, thanks, I am killing myself going through the general thread for flights and such...
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 13, 2007, 01:34:55 AM
Thanks mswood.  I guess this supports the flight that Apskip found.

I will die if they say the flight arrives 10 min early.   ;D
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 13, 2007, 03:16:23 AM
Thanks puddin! :happy:

Is it possible for the rat roadblock to be in Vilanculos? It's about 403 miles away from Maputo and that would be a 10 hour drive or more. Although there is an airport there (Google Maps direct you to the airport when you search for Vilanculos, Mozambique), so they could do chartered flights again.

Also, found this (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Africa/Mozambique/photo408057.htm) photo taken from Vilanculos, which has great similarities with this intro pic (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/freelancer2k/TAR11spoiler/intro/23.jpg), like what some people pointed out already. I'm thinking the long piece on the intro pic boat is the sail, but it's at a higher position than the sail in some of the pictures that I've seen.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gator27 on March 13, 2007, 07:45:27 AM
I have not seen any previews of Teri and Ian in Africa.  In keepin' with puddin's boot list, are Teri & Ian so far behind that they do not factor in this episode?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Jetgabriel on March 13, 2007, 07:57:28 AM
At the preview,Ian said something about the roadblock.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 13, 2007, 08:32:53 AM
I'm going to pose what for me is the dilemma of this episode and ask for ideas and comments on it. Teams will have gone to a glacier before getting to the Ushuaia airport, then fly 1000 miles north to Buenos Aires and several hundreed miles further north to Sao Paulo. Then they get on a place for an almost 9 hour flight across the Atlantic Ocean and most of South Africa. Then they change planes in Johannesburg and fly one hour to Maputo.  It makes no sense for them to be again getting on any plane this episode and going another 405 miles northeast to work with the giant rats where the landmines are. I believe that some giant rats are imported to the Maputo area for a special, simple task so teams can finish the detour or roadblock and get back to the old Portuguese fort for the pit stop. If teams were going to go to the landmine area, then it would logically be in another episode since that area is on the way to Tanzania and Kenya. What do you think?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 13, 2007, 08:57:51 AM
I may have the answer to the dilemma posed above. It can be found on the APOPO website (http://www.apopo.org/newsite/content/index.htm). APOPO is the organization running the landmine clearing operation further north in Mozambique, but its training base is here:

Mine Detection Rats
PO Box 649 , Maputo - Mozambique
Country office, Logistics and Training base:
Avenida da Revolucao, Inhambane
Tel/Fax: + 258 293 20 126 - Mobile : + 258 82 31 80 990

Inhambane is 300 km (190 miles) north and east of Maputo on the coast. I am guessing that it will be 4 to 5 hours by car or bus. That is doable for tired Amazing Race teams, even though it is equally possible that the rats are imported to the Maputo area for a special task. It is also possible that the rats used by the Amazing Race are not landmine-trained rats. There are plenty of rats around Maputo, some of which (cane rats) are part of the local diet.
 
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 10:46:15 AM
WTG everyone  :happy:
What comes first Roadblock or Detour? Chateau can you guess from the Roadblock sun if its early or late in the day?
In the taxi scene Danielle says" I'm not touching any of these peoples feet." toe painting and Dirty/Digging are the Detour since the Rats are the Roadblock.
Now during the Roadblock Rats we see teams with trucks and they are maybe bunched for maybe Hours of operation.


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Post by: Chateau d If on March 13, 2007, 10:50:11 AM
Wherever it is, it takes place early in the next morning on December 1st.

Probably a major bunch point where they all have to wait until 6:00 am. (That's what this solar altitude looks like:  about 14 deg)

Hey, Puddin I was already on it!

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Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
Wherever it is, it takes place early in the next morning on December 1st.

Probably a major bunch point where they all have to wait until 6:00 am. (That's what this solar altitude looks like:  about 14 deg)

Hey, Puddin I was already on it!
:hfive: I should have known!  :lol: ! I wonder why they wern't clued to drive the trucks to the Detour? oh well..
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Post by: Big Papi on March 13, 2007, 11:00:24 AM
WTG everyone  :happy:
What comes first Roadblock or Detour? Chateau can you guess from the Roadblock sun if its early or late in the day?
In the taxi scene Danielle says" I'm not touching any of these peoples feet." toe painting and Dirty/Digging are the Detour since the Rats are the Roadblock.
Now during the Roadblock Rats we see teams with trucks and they are maybe bunched for maybe Hours of operation.


"What comes first Roadblock or Detour?"

Don't have an inklin' but I guess that Schmirna is not going into the minefield and Eric may be giving somebody a pedicure  :groan:

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 11:02:04 AM
Papi, Danielle = a Kendra moment  :lol:
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 13, 2007, 11:03:40 AM
According to the download document at this site (http://www.apopo.org/updates/index.html), they have to work with the rats in the early morning; it's too hot for them later in the day.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Big Papi on March 13, 2007, 11:05:23 AM
Papi, Danielle = a Kendra moment  :lol:

 :lol3: And Eric a Drama Queen (is that PC?) confrontation?

(If it's over the top please delete.)
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 13, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
According to the download document at this site (http://www.apopo.org/updates/index.html), they have to work with the rats in the early morning; it's too hot for them later in the day.

SLOWHATCH, I used your reference (which might have been based on my website reference) to learn about the Limpopo Railroad since that is where some active clearance is taking place. This railroad runs from Zimbabwe into Mozambique at Chicaulacaula through Chokwe into Maputo. For those who want to know where these places are, consult the excellent interactive map reference provided by SLOWHATCH in the MAPS, MAPS, MAPS thread around 1am today. For those who want to learn more about this railway click here: LIMPOPO RAILROAD (http://www.zimmedia.com/limpopo_line/). Rats could be in use along this railroad quite close to Maputo.
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Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
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For those who want to know where these places are, consult the excellent interactive map reference provided by SLOWHATCH in the MAPS, MAPS, MAPS thread around 1am today
I agree that Slowhatch's interactive map (http://students.fct.unl.pt/~vmb10292/searchmozmap/searchmozmap.htm#cimo) is excellent as well as addicting! I'm totally hooked on it ..but be warned! it is not a good map for someone that has TAR OCD  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 03:10:36 PM
( I have some time to kill and will work on piecing this together here and there )

Web clues:
*Friction begins to develop between Oswald and Danny.
*An AIDS march hits close to home with Danny.  

*Teams are reeling after the departure of Rob & Amber.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00003-12-2007.jpg)

Team arrive at the Mastil Crucero A.R.A. General Belgrano,  pitstop EP4 in this order:

1) Oswald/Danny
2) Eric/Danielle
3) Teri/Ian
4) Joe/Bill
5) Dustin/Kandice
6) Uchenna/Joyce
7) Charla/Mirna

:bar:
It looks like the teams might have to search for a clue at the Martial Glacier,in Ushuaia to direct them to the next clue.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00033-12-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00043-12-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00053-12-2007.jpg) Bill & Joe
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00193-12-2007.jpg) umm?
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00263-12-2007.jpg) Charla/ Mirna and ? doesn't matter, all teams will have to do it.

 UshuaiaSighter   (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=7265.topic&start=1413&stop=1420) posted (11/28/06 )@ sucks at 5:13 pm.
*Hi to all. I'm doing a trip through South America and I'm now in Ushuaia, Argentina (southern most city in the world).
*About an hour ago Bill and Joe (Team Guido) entered an internet cafe/calling center (locutorio) with a cameraman and a soundman. They wanted to call a few airlines (Aerolinas Argentinas and South African Airlines). I guess they are heading to South Africa then.Sorry for the quality of the pictures. I was in a rush and the cameraman was intimidating! "
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The locutario where the pics were taken was at the corner of 25 de Mayo and San Martin in Ushuaia. It was taken at about 19h15 Ushuaia time (17h15 NYC). The sunset here is at about 22h15.

*I think they already had their plane tickets out of Ushuaia to probably Buenos Aires. It's a pain to get out of Ushuaia by eather plane or bus these days. You have to book way in advance. So it would be impossible for 8-9 teams + crew to just hop on a plane. So I guess the tickets were handed to them, with 2 or 3 departing times.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_P1040868.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/P1040868.jpg)  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_P1040871.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/P1040871.jpg)  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_P1040869.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/P1040869.jpg)  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_P1040872.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/P1040872.jpg)

apskips Ultimate Time-Line:
5. Ushuaia 11/28 to Maputo
Leaders fly out on Aerolineas Argentinas 1886 from Ushuaia to Buenos Aires International 1030 to 1511; stragglers go on AR2811 2136 to 0056 arriving at Buenos Aires Domestic, requiring bus or taxi transfer to Buenos Aires International terminal
LAN Argentina 4554 Buenos Aires 1900 to 2135 Sao Paulo
LAN Argentina 4550 Buenos Aires 0805 to 1040 Sao Paulo
SAA206 Sao Paulo 1725 to 0715 Johannesburg
TM300 Johannesburg 0840 to Maputo 0940 11/30  (note: TM is the code for LAM)
NOTE that catching the earlier flight out of Ushuaia made no difference in arrival at Maputo due to once a day transatlantic flight.
Pitstop on evening of 12/1

Chateau  : This shot was taken here between 9:23 and 9:37 am (assumes November 30th).
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00173-12-2007.jpg)

:bar:

Roadblock/RATS
*RACERS DEPART ARGENTINA AND HEAD TO MOZAMBIQUE WHERE ONE TEAM’S TAUNTING OF ANOTHER TEAM QUICKLY ESCALATES INTO A WAR OF WORDS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS"
*Eric & Danielle taunt Joe & Bill, which quickly escalates into a war of words.

*Teams get up close and personal with..a rat!
* During a Roadblock, Teams must get up close and personal with a rat in order to receive their next clue.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00273-12-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00293-12-2007.jpg) Dustin or Kandice?
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0049.jpg) Eric/Dee,The Cha's,The Guidos,Ucheena & Joyce
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0047.jpg) Joe:"You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_redcard.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00393-12-2007.jpg) Mirna/Charla
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00323-12-2007.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00363-12-2007.jpg) Kandice & Ozzy
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0057.jpg) Ozzy: Grosse!"
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00423-12-2007.jpg) Joyce & Kandice

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0051.jpg) Eric/ Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0053.jpg) Dustin/Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0052.jpg) Charla/ Roadblock
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0060.jpg) Ian/Roadblock
:bar:

Detour/ Dirt Bag or Dirty Feet :lol:?
Dirty Feet :lol:
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00123-12-2007.jpg) Dani: I'm not touching any of these people feet.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00133-12-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00143-12-2007.jpg)

Dirtybags

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00083-12-2007.jpg) The Cha's and the Guido's?
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00103-12-2007.jpg)
:bar:
Pitstop, Maputo: Portuguese fort (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=6838231) 
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_gefort.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_Boingosfort.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_FortalezadeMaputo-Moambique.jpg)
(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_danielle1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_danielle1.jpg)
Eric: its hard having a girlfriend on the race, you know we have to kind of seperate the relaitionship from everything thats happening around us ..people go nuts and freak out and yell at each other a lot. i'm treating her pretty much as a guy except she has nicer boobs.


(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_mirna1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_mirna1.jpg)
Mirna: I don't want to be around the Guidos the entire way
Charla..(?) on the last leg..
Mirna: they ditched us and we are on our own..we can't trust them
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0010.jpg)
Joe: Bill and I constantly get nervous when were gonna fall to last place and you just don't want to be way back behind everybody else..

:bar:
misc:

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/sub5/th_00233-12-2007.jpg) Mirna/Chala: lets sing a song in your country " lalalalalala"
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: michael on March 13, 2007, 03:23:58 PM
Do we know if all of the teams will get to the road block at the same time since there is an HOH this time around?
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Post by: gator27 on March 13, 2007, 03:26:14 PM
Do we know if all of the teams will get to the road block at the same time since there is an HOH this time around?

HOH?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 13, 2007, 03:34:45 PM
 :tup: I agree Puddin that the glacier isn't a Roadblock or Detour, just an info stop. Dirtbags are probably half of the Detour, I don't know the other half (henna maybe?). And as for the ice-pack cap we found a long time ago, it's now or never.

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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 13, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
My guess is tht the roadblock comes before the detour, based on what we know.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 03:52:56 PM
:tup: I agree Puddin that the glacier isn't a Roadblock or Detour, just an info stop. Dirtbags are probably half of the Detour, I don't know the other half (henna maybe?). And as for the ice-pack cap we found a long time ago, it's now or never.
  :lol: Dirt Bags & Dirty Feet! Slowhatch your picture is clearer.. I think thats the Guidos working alongside the Cha's?

ETA: is it more or are there flash's of lights in the background Dirtybags?
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 13, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
Sparkles were used in a couple of the transitions. Here's a mat cap from the promo.

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Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 04:10:35 PM
Tricky bastards  :meow:! Thanks Slowhatch ..  :yess:
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Post by: Big Papi on March 13, 2007, 04:28:11 PM
:tup: I agree Puddin that the glacier isn't a Roadblock or Detour, just an info stop. Dirtbags are probably half of the Detour, I don't know the other half (henna maybe?). And as for the ice-pack cap we found a long time ago, it's now or never.
  :lol: Dirt Bags & Dirty Feet! Slowhatch your picture is clearer.. I think thats the Guidos working alongside the Cha's?

ETA: is it more or are there flash's of lights in the background Dirtybags?

puddin, my ZOOM shows both the Chas wearing shorts (left hand,) Joyce to the right of Danny, and Guidos to her right wearing grayish tees with yellow sleeves. Am I seeing straight again  ???
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 04:44:54 PM
It could be Joyce Papi but I'm not certain? I'll wait and see if I can catch the TV promo  :luvya:
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Big Papi on March 13, 2007, 04:55:47 PM
It could be Joyce Papi but I'm not certain? I'll wait and see if I can catch the TV promo  :luvya:

OK. I believe that may be Eric right behind one of the Guidos and directly in front of the lady in the white blouse to the left of the stacked bags....  :luvya:
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 13, 2007, 06:21:18 PM
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Web Clues:
*Friction begins to develop between Oswald and Danny.
*An AIDS march hits close to home with Danny.
Could the AIDS march happen the night of November 30th, when everyone has to wait 'till the morning for the Roadblock? If so, they would have to be in a somewhat major city for the teams, especially Oswald/Danny, to see the event. Although, they could also see the AIDS march on their way to the next task from the Roadblock (if this indeed happened on the morning of December 1st), or on the way to somewhere from something.

A possible scenario for the Roadblock: The rats are placed in a fenced area, where no Roadblocker can come in at first, and so the rats need to be on a leash. Then the rats have to sniff out a landmine type device, not exactly a land mine, and it would stay there? (I don't know exactly what the rat does when it finds a landmine... jumps up and down and points to it?  :lol:) Then I think the Roadblocker could now enter the fenced area and follow the string path made by the rat to the landmine, which is actually a clue to their next destination, only that it smells like a landmine so that the rat could sniff it out.

Thanks for your insight on Vilanculos, apskip. I removed it from the "future locations" section in the wikipedia article of TARAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Race_11), as it's not proven yet whether the teams would really go there or not.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 06:53:23 PM

Some useless  B:) B:)
The Portuguese fort (or Fortaleza) is Maputo's most evocative landmark and is called, Fort of Nossa Senhora da Conceiao (Our Lady of Conception).
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 10:11:39 PM
thanks to Rob  :luvya:

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Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 10:22:47 PM
I think were looking to hard and the Toenails whatever is somewhere in the Maputo market area ..see the green sun shield or whatever you call it? And it probably goes hand in hand with the Lady at teh market and the maybe the fish from the introcaps.


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Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2007, 12:47:32 AM
Bringing this over from the IGN interview that Puddin found.
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We were in Africa, and the Pit Stop location had to get moved because of logistics. We'd taken a flight to the next location, packed up about forty bags into a propeller charter flight and flew two hours to the next location. As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all. There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes.
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Post by: gator27 on March 14, 2007, 06:50:45 AM
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Web Clues:
*Friction begins to develop between Oswald and Danny.
*An AIDS march hits close to home with Danny.
Could the AIDS march happen the night of November 30th, when everyone has to wait 'till the morning for the Roadblock? If so, they would have to be in a somewhat major city for the teams, especially Oswald/Danny, to see the event. Although, they could also see the AIDS march on their way to the next task from the Roadblock (if this indeed happened on the morning of December 1st), or on the way to somewhere from something.

A possible scenario for the Roadblock: The rats are placed in a fenced area, where no Roadblocker can come in at first, and so the rats need to be on a leash. Then the rats have to sniff out a landmine type device, not exactly a land mine, and it would stay there? (I don't know exactly what the rat does when it finds a landmine... jumps up and down and points to it?  :lol:) Then I think the Roadblocker could now enter the fenced area and follow the string path made by the rat to the landmine, which is actually a clue to their next destination, only that it smells like a landmine so that the rat could sniff it out.

Thanks for your insight on Vilanculos, apskip. I removed it from the "future locations" section in the wikipedia article of TARAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Race_11), as it's not proven yet whether the teams would really go there or not.

How about this idea for the rats.  They sniff out a "mine" and the racer must dig out the "mine" to get their clue.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2007, 09:22:21 AM
MARTIAL GLACIER
This is accessed via chairlift 4 km northeast of the center of Ushuaia.

The chair-lift trip is not only an attraction because of the beautiful sights of the city, but it also offers an interesting opportunity to go for walks to the glacier. From the top station, different paths will lead the tourist to visit places such as the "portillo", from where he can observe the Andorra Canyon.

Walking excursions on ice are simple, the steepest slope being at the beginning of the trip. Precaution should be taken with cracks, especially in spring and fall, when ice bridges are weak. If you do not have suitable equipment, it would be convenient to climb Negro Canyon, a vast valley opening to the right as you go up to the glacier, after leaving the chair-lift.

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 14, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
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Web Clues:
*Friction begins to develop between Oswald and Danny.
*An AIDS march hits close to home with Danny.
Could the AIDS march happen the night of November 30th, when everyone has to wait 'till the morning for the Roadblock? If so, they would have to be in a somewhat major city for the teams, especially Oswald/Danny, to see the event. Although, they could also see the AIDS march on their way to the next task from the Roadblock (if this indeed happened on the morning of December 1st), or on the way to somewhere from something.

A possible scenario for the Roadblock: The rats are placed in a fenced area, where no Roadblocker can come in at first, and so the rats need to be on a leash. Then the rats have to sniff out a landmine type device, not exactly a land mine, and it would stay there? (I don't know exactly what the rat does when it finds a landmine... jumps up and down and points to it?  :lol:) Then I think the Roadblocker could now enter the fenced area and follow the string path made by the rat to the landmine, which is actually a clue to their next destination, only that it smells like a landmine so that the rat could sniff it out.

Thanks for your insight on Vilanculos, apskip. I removed it from the "future locations" section in the wikipedia article of TARAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Race_11), as it's not proven yet whether the teams would really go there or not.

How about this idea for the rats.  They sniff out a "mine" and the racer must dig out the "mine" to get their clue.

I hope they are "live" mines so one mistake and we Phil having to say "I'm sorry to say that you have been eliminated"
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Post by: michael on March 14, 2007, 12:05:25 PM
Phil's preview comes out tonight (early Thursday morning) right?!
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 12:25:37 PM
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I hope they are "live" mines so one mistake and we Phil having to say "I'm sorry to say that you have been eliminated"
:groan:

Phil's preview comes out tonight (early Thursday morning) right?!
:happy: if were lucky!!
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We were in Africa, and the Pit Stop location had to get moved because of logistics. We'd taken a flight to the next location, packed up about forty bags into a propeller charter flight and flew two hours to the next location. As soon as we landed, we got a phone call to say the teams had been held up. They were never gonna make it to the pit stop where we were at. We'd just unloaded all the bags in the middle of the night. So they asked the flight crew if they would fly us back the next morning, and the crew said no; they were gonna go back. So we had to load all the bags back on the plane, take the two hour flight back again, then go out and in the middle of the night for the pit stop, having not been to bed at all. There was no facility for any of us, like chairs or any of that. So at one point there was 12 of us, cameramen and production people, all tightly packed onto the mat, which was lying in a grassy area, being absolutely annihilated at 3:00 am by mosquitoes.
Thanks Slowhatch! From what we know about the Fort/Pitstop this is not about EP5 obviously the teams are giving confessionals in the daylight not at a grassy area at 3am. It pretty much confirms what we already knew and that there is more than one leg in the future for Africa probably something to do with the Masai men ...lots of good info in that paragraph so where was Phil heading?  ??? What could have held the teams up?
Maybe this needs its own thread wish we knew if its for EP6 or 7.
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Post by: apskip on March 14, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
It has to be episode 6 pitstop, with Phil and crew going on to the episode 7 locations and then having to come back. There isn't time for going to Poland and coming back, so it has to be Afirca and there can't be any pitstops beyond 7 in Africa due to time constraints. We really don't know where epsiode 6 pitstop is, but the leading contenders are in the Zanzibar area and Dar-es-Salaam area. It is more probable that Episode 7 pitstop is somewhere in Kenya accessed from Nairobi.
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Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 07:16:33 PM
Ok apskip I moved the info to EP6 thread now that we have a title.


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Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 07:32:49 PM
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2007, 07:33:53 PM
It looks like the other half of the detour. Nothing I saw about henna or pedicures, though.

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Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 07:51:39 PM
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2007, 08:04:52 PM
It might be the central market (green trim with white numbers--compare with the photos at the bottom of this album (http://www.pbase.com/ha3349/out_of_africa)), but it's not enough to make a match: there's more than one market in town.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: hakushu8 on March 14, 2007, 08:07:50 PM
So the Detour could be: Clean Hands or Dirty Hands? Or just Clean or Dirty? Clean for having nail polish put on, while Dirty for digging through the dirt?

Henna then seems like not part of the Detour for this episode.
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Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 08:28:37 PM
It might be the central market (green trim with white numbers--compare with the photos at the bottom of this album (http://www.pbase.com/ha3349/out_of_africa)), but it's not enough to make a match: there's more than one market in town.
:lol: GMTA

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Post by: michael on March 14, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
yay! Phil's preview :happy:

thanks puddin! :kissy:
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Post by: puddin on March 14, 2007, 08:48:03 PM
just because I found them ...

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Post by: apskip on March 14, 2007, 09:16:28 PM
So the Detour could be: Clean Hands or Dirty Hands? Or just Clean or Dirty? Clean for having nail polish put on, while Dirty for digging through the dirt?

Henna then seems like not part of the Detour for this episode.

I vote for Finger Nails or Toe Nails, as I believe the other DETOUR option is to clip toenails based on some photos we've already seen.

It is interesting that they will dig in the Glacier for a clue buried in the ice. Getting there and getting down  and to the airport may take an hour or two each way, but the task itself will be fairly quick.
What now is most unusual to me is how do Joe and Bill lose one day. The teams should be released after a 12 hour pitstop maybe between 1am and about 5am on Monday Nov. 27. The chairlift will have hours of operation, which will dictate when they can get to the glacier, so they will all bunch there. They will be done before noon and on their way to the airport, but it is Nov. 27 unless there was an extended pit stop to 36 hours. If there isn't then how do Joe and Bill get behind everyone else by one day? We know they catch up by Mozambique. They can do this if only behind 12 hours, but not if behind 24 hours. It looks like there must be an extended pit stop at Ushuaia.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 14, 2007, 09:18:43 PM
This shot was taken between 2:33 and 3:17 pm (assumes November 30th).

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Post by: Kogs on March 14, 2007, 09:19:28 PM
So the Detour could be: Clean Hands or Dirty Hands? Or just Clean or Dirty? Clean for having nail polish put on, while Dirty for digging through the dirt?

Henna then seems like not part of the Detour for this episode.

They have used Clean or Dirty before in season5 episode 10
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Post by: michael on March 14, 2007, 09:22:40 PM
we need shots of other teams now so we can compare time!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 14, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
This shot, if it was taken between 2:33 and 3:17 pm , would have have been made with a solar azimuth of about 260 deg.  I checked all the markets indicated by Slowhatch's link in "maps" and only Mercado Estrela Vermelha has allies that line up at the correct angle to get the sun's direction in the shot.  So that is my guess for the Detour location.

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Post by: mswood on March 14, 2007, 10:16:56 PM
Awesome, I will be very curious if you are accurate (I am sure you are).
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 12:01:29 AM
Thanks Chateau  :luvya:

Well I found this but do not want to take the big picture because of copyrights
Maputo: on the spot nail varnish! (http://www.travel-images.com/view.shtml?mozambique171.jpg)

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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 01:50:32 AM
 :knuckles: After searching for days i have nothing

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Post by: michael on March 15, 2007, 01:50:53 AM
ok, it's really late so sorry if I asked this question already and somebody replied, I'm to tired to go back and check (  :umn:)

but do we know if the detour or the road block comes first?
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: Slowhatch on March 15, 2007, 01:54:46 AM
I would think the detour comes first; the roadblock has to be in the early morning. But it's just a guess.  :ele: (no rat smileys)
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 01:54:56 AM
Wherever it is, it takes place early in the next morning on December 1st.

Probably a major bunch point where they all have to wait until 6:00 am. (That's what this solar altitude looks like:  about 14 deg)

Hey, Puddin I was already on it!
Roadblock, bunching = Hours of Operation  Michael.
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 01:57:27 AM
I would think the detour comes first; the roadblock has to be in the early morning. But it's just a guess.  :ele: (no rat smileys)
I'm so confused on the dates Slowhatch? Detour first thing on arrival on Nov 30th? Roadblock/Rats early morning Dec 1st?

eta: I think its a mouse  :lol: :rat?:
eta: by request Slowhatch :rats:
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 15, 2007, 09:25:01 AM
I'm not sure about the dates, either. I was just going by the times Chateau provided: morning arrival, afternoon detour and early morning roadblock.
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Post by: apskip on March 15, 2007, 09:50:30 AM
PUDDIN and SLOWHATCH, add me to the list of those uncertain and perplexed over dates. My post #122 explained it like this:

What now is most unusual to me is how do Joe and Bill lose one day. The teams should be released after a 12 hour pitstop maybe between 1am and about 5am on Monday Nov. 27. The chairlift will have hours of operation, which will dictate when they can get to the glacier, so they will all bunch there. They will be done before noon and on their way to the airport, but it is Nov. 27 unless there was an extended pit stop to 36 hours. If there isn't then how do Joe and Bill get behind everyone else by one day? We know they catch up by Mozambique. They can do this if only behind 12 hours, but not if behind 24 hours. It looks like there must be an extended pit stop at Ushuaia.

The reason, of course, being the sighting of Joe and Bill at the Ushuaia travel agency on the afternoon of Nov. 28. It is barely possible that the individual reporting it was citing an event 24 hours old, but I don't believe that. My bet is now on the extended pit stop. The problem is how to determine which day it is either before or during the showing of Episode 5.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 15, 2007, 10:20:50 AM
Just to be sure everybody knows, I just used Apskip's November 30th as the flight arrival date.  It seems to check out with the Guido sighting on November 28th in Ushuaia.  I haven't loaded it into a timeline myself to make sure it is in sync.  But I suspect I don't have to.

The other thing that Slowhatch found was that the rats like to do the mine searching in the mornings due to the high heat of the day.

When teams are debarking the plane at Maputo the Sun is already up at about 60 deg solar altitude.  So they can't do the rat roadblock on that day.
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 10:29:19 AM
Just to be sure everybody knows, I just used Apskip's November 30th as the flight arrival date.  It seems to check out with the Guido sighting on November 28th in Ushuaia.  I haven't loaded it into a timeline myself to make sure it is in sync.  But I suspect I don't have to.

The other thing that Slowhatch found was that the rats like to do the mine searching in the mornings due to the high heat of the day.

When teams are debarking the plane at Maputo the Sun is already up at about 60 deg solar altitude.  So they can't do the rat roadblock on that day.
Plus the clothes match up ...

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(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0007.jpg) pitstop
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 10:35:30 AM
More than a 12 hour pitstop, the teams had time for a nice meal with wine and exploring Ushuaia.....check out the extra clips  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11568.75.html) that Kogs posted.

The Racers Relax Over A Meal (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=132303&ord=18309.235714414233)

The Teams Meet The Local Dogs (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=132313&ord=16765.789405430874)

eta the weather History for Ushuaia, Argentina (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/SAWH/2006/11/27/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 10:39:09 AM
Whee! I've got some catching up to do and a whole potpourri of things to comment on--so here goes!

Ep 4 Pitstop--we do think this is 36 hours, right? (11/26-11/28 AM?)
  The clincher for me is the Pit Stop cams which show two lunches (or big meals in daylight hours anyway) which suggests 2 different days to me. The first was the arrival one with Ch/Mirna, and the second one was the Bodego Cafeteria one with the Huskies.

I think that this might well be the restaurant at the Valle de los Huskies, a breeding/training/sled dog ride place located 19 km out Rte # 3... (and where were Ch/Mirna that day?)
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Valle de los Huskies
Nineteen kilometers from Ushuaia, along National Route Nº3, it has a restaurant, a tea shop and a bar. There is rental and sales of skiing equipment, rental of sleds, dog sled rides, snow cats, illuminated runs, "flexmobile" excursions and a skiing school. There is a 1,000 meter high-speed ski run

and at 17 km out of Ushuaia is the
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Altos del Valle
Seventeen kilometers from the city, along National Route Nº3, this center offers lodging in cabins, private parking, a bar, regular transport and a skiing school. It also has the first school for child sled team drivers and Siberian Husky breeding establishments.
which could be where they spend the night before doing the glacier climb on 11/28.

(My pretty little map shows the Valle--but maybe somebody else could add in the glaciers? Not quite sure where they are...)

On to the glacier climb:

apskip said
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The most logical place for glaciers is in the Chilean portion of Tierra del Fuego National Park, which they are close to while staying on Isla Redonda in the Argentinian portion of that park. I predict that the glacier scenes will take up the entire following day

which makes sense to me--I just think it is now 11/28.

I am not totally convinced about which glacier they climbed though--after reading several blogs there seem to be two choices--the Martial and the Albino Glaciers.

The Albino actually seems to be more of a mountaineering one...

 This blog  (http://www.bootsnall.com/samericatravelguides/mar01ushuaia.shtml) is a hoot! ("Stop complaining Philip--your testicles aren't really frozen solid!")--in ref to climbing the Martial Glacier...

The task seems to be some sort of find/search/rescue task as previously described. But since they have met the dogs--shouldn't they at least get to have a sled-dog turn? :lol:

Pictures...then more to say re the next bit!

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 10:40:21 AM
Doggies...

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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 11:12:29 AM
Thanks peach, that map really helps.

tvguide, rats first..
Episode Detail: You Need to Watch Your Jokes, Guy - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The seven remaining teams fly from Argentina to Mozambique on the fifth leg of the race. Once there, the teams encounter a large rat that holds the key to their next clue.

eta: Kogs, your the basketball person and we put you in charge of all Amazing Race promos seen during the games ;D
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 11:15:07 AM
I"m leaving the flights to apskip's expertise cause I'm sure he has them down...

I guess arrival 11/30? with tasks to 12/1?

We know that World Aids Day was on 12/1 so that is when there would be the AIDS march that hits home to Danny...
I found one in Beira but not yet in Maputo.

I like the little rat too! It is all "Borrowers Afield"!

But I have a theory about the "Dirty Hands" task--I think that they are filling sandbags in preparation for serious flooding.

As most of you probably know, Mozambique was devastated by serious flooding in 2000 with a huge loss of lives and homes. The government has been apparently making  extensive preparations  (http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0221/p01s02-woaf.html?page=2) for a repeat occurrence since then. In Feb 2007, there was a combination of  serious flooding in conjunction with Cyclone Flavio  (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17276953/), and many areas of Mozambique were significantly affected. However, this time the loss of life was much much less due to the  extensive preparations  (http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2007&m=March&x=200703011406311EJrehsiF0.6547205).

And remember our cute little fellow with the hat and the bottle?

I can track the Yes we can hat (a Michigan charity) from there to Kenya...

Yes we can! is affliliated with  JONAH (Joint religious network of action and hope)--and they in turn are affiliated with the GAMALIEL foundation---and they just  sent a mission team to Kenya! (http://www.gamaliel.org/CBCO/KENYA/default.htm) in October. They also have a project in South Africa...

The bottle could be some part of a pediatric nutritional supplement program (perhaps for AIDS patients?)--it would be common to supply a bottle for the clean water needed to mix up the solutions...

I think that the Gamaliel Foundation supports several orphanages in the area--so maybe TPTB are planning another chance for U/J?






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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 11:21:47 AM
Boy...

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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 11:28:48 AM
I found a bottle with that liquid/bottle and its similar but mine is in Boane outside of Maputo but really it could be Kenya.
My location is the Iris Ministries, Inc. | Ministry Locations - Zimpeto Center (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:1TNIt5ED0TQJ:www.irismin.com/ministryLoc_boane.cfm+iris+Ministries&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us) and I keep thinking that is where they bag the dirt for some reason.

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 11:35:28 AM
That bottle is an exact match (ugh--I'm glad I don't have to drink it!)--I'll just be glad if they are featuring the children somewhere again!

And of course, that hat could have gotten most anywhere thru the mission connections--I just loved the direct trail to Kenya shortly before our guys arrived.
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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
Also the teams might have a task to do before leaving Mozambique so some of the introflashs, if in Mozambique at all might come into play EP6.

markets markets everywhere

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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 12:58:27 PM
Link  (http://www.mozambique.mz/links.htm#) to links: Links Sobre Moçambique
I don't have time to check them out now so if someone wants to go through them  :waves:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2007, 09:34:35 PM
December 1 --World AIDS Day.

TAR support of the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation.

There is bound to be something there--but I just can't find it!
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 15, 2007, 10:48:24 PM
There must be a lot of nail shops to choose from; this one was flagged.  ;D

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Post by: puddin on March 15, 2007, 11:32:34 PM
Gosh we need something to do  :lol: Is it Sunday yet !?
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Post by: Slowhatch on March 15, 2007, 11:40:56 PM
Looking for something to do?  ;D Take a peek at this page (http://www.edwardsandlee.com/photos/hollywood-05/photoshollywood-05.html) and tell me if you think that's really Phil.
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 15, 2007, 11:48:53 PM
Looking for something to do?  ;D Take a peek at this page (http://www.edwardsandlee.com/photos/hollywood-05/photoshollywood-05.html) and tell me if you think that's really Phil.
Doesn't that guy look more like Eric Dane (McSteamy of Grey's Anatomy)?  :o

Hehe... OT. :jumpy:
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Post by: michael on March 15, 2007, 11:49:18 PM
that's not Phil!!!

WTF!

haha, Puddin, yes we do need something to do...i think this is the most unspoiled episode so far
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Post by: RudyRules on March 16, 2007, 12:14:01 AM
Gosh we need something to do  :lol: Is it Sunday yet !?
puddin, your Shmirna avatar is cracking me up!!  :rotf: :lol3: :lol:
Love it!  :jam: 

And Slowhatch...that doesn't look like Phil to me either.  So why does it say (under the picture)  "The "Philiminator", as he likes to be called..." ???  Noone else is called that !! 
Maybe it's Phil with makeup? :lol:  :rotf: :lol3: 
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Post by: MrsEbbles on March 16, 2007, 12:40:18 AM
Looking for something to do?  ;D Take a peek at this page (http://www.edwardsandlee.com/photos/hollywood-05/photoshollywood-05.html) and tell me if you think that's really Phil.

That isn't our Phil!  :wtf:
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Post by: rbjhan on March 16, 2007, 03:22:52 AM
Looking for something to do?  ;D Take a peek at this page (http://www.edwardsandlee.com/photos/hollywood-05/photoshollywood-05.html) and tell me if you think that's really Phil.


I think that's Eric Close
from Without A Trace... ;D
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Post by: gator27 on March 16, 2007, 06:25:43 AM
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It looks like the racers must solicit market goers to have their hands/nails painted.  Do you suppose that you get more credit for painting feet?  Must paint 10 hands or 5 feet?
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Post by: apskip on March 16, 2007, 09:30:31 AM
Gosh we need something to do  :lol: Is it Sunday yet !?

Sorry, PUDDIN. The way this episode works the major time is likely to be spent showing the travel arrangements and flights since taking 4 separate flights over a distance of about 4000 miles is likely to be time-consuming. The rest of the tasks you already know:

go up the Martial Glacier and use those devices to locate and dig for a buried clue (which say fly to Maputo)

once off the plane in Maputo go to either the rats or market for the DETOUR and ROADBLOCK and then from one to the other, probably with an hours of operation stop in between

end up at the old fort for the pitstop

That's a pretty full episode, so what more could there be?
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 11:46:44 AM
Looking for something to do?  ;D Take a peek at this page (http://www.edwardsandlee.com/photos/hollywood-05/photoshollywood-05.html) and tell me if you think that's really Phil.


I think that's Eric Close
from Without A Trace... ;D
Impostor  :knuckles:!! Its a conspiracy I tell ya :lol:

And you are correct rbjhan :hithere:

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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 11:52:18 AM
We still have something to do...maybe if we find exactly where the confessionals were taken Chateau could estimate a time  :luvya:
The Guidos, if at the same spot as Eric/Dee, have more sun on their face which may ot may not be good for both teams.

Pitstop, Maputo: Portuguese fort (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=6838231)  == The Portuguese fort (or Fortaleza) is Maputo's most evocative landmark and is called, Fort of Nossa Senhora da Conceiao (Our Lady of Conception).
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Eric: its hard having a girlfriend on the race, you know we have to kind of seperate the relaitionship from everything thats happening around us ..people go nuts and freak out and yell at each other a lot. i'm treating her pretty much as a guy except she has nicer boobs.


(http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/1/1_mirna1.jpg) (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=1_mirna1.jpg)
Mirna: I don't want to be around the Guidos the entire way
Charla..(?) on the last leg..
Mirna: they ditched us and we are on our own..we can't trust them
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Joe: Bill and I constantly get nervous when were gonna fall to last place and you just don't want to be way back behind everybody else..
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 12:02:47 PM
thumbnail click click
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 12:34:40 PM
As suspected ..nothing yet ...I think it updates around 4 ET if someone wants to check back.

MONDAY MORNING ON THE EARLY SHOW  (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/10/04/broadcasts/main64925.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories)
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Post by: michael on March 16, 2007, 01:16:44 PM
Well, I was thinking about it, I think the detour DOES come first because we see Kandice running off a plane wearing a white shirt, and then we see her really early in the morning wearing a Pink shirt while Dustin does the road block, so I'm guessing it's detour - they choose the bags - get dirty, change, wait for the HOH, do the road block - go to pitstop.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 16, 2007, 01:31:21 PM
There's not much to go by there for shadows.

Maybe if someone could find where is that stairway behind the Peewees of Persecution I might be able to ballpark a time.   :reading:
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
Roadblock comes first the clues say so and Chateau, i think? pointed out that the rodents can only perform in the early morning hours ..

clue:
During a Roadblock, Teams must get up close and personal with a rat in order to receive their next clue

Well, I was thinking about it, I think the detour DOES come first because we see Kandice running off a plane wearing a white shirt, and then we see her really early in the morning wearing a Pink shirt while Dustin does the road block, so I'm guessing it's detour - they choose the bags - get dirty, change, wait for the HOH, do the road block - go to pitstop.

This shot was taken between 2:33 and 3:17 pm (assumes November 30th).

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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 02:10:21 PM
The Early Show  (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml)

Monday, 3/19: Actor Mark Wahlberg discusses his new movie, “Shooter” | How to raise optimistic kids
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 06:11:04 PM
I missed the capture for the commercial but we do see the chairlifts at Ushuaia.
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 06:20:18 PM
Not much luck with the Fort Chateau but maybe they are sitting outside the Fort?

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 16, 2007, 06:41:35 PM
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Maybe if someone could find where is that stairway behind the Peewees of Persecution I might be able to ballpark a time

You crack me up, Chateau! :lol3:

I've been looking for that darned staircase with zero luck--it has to be inside the fort and why don't those tourists take more pictures there?! :meow:

Okay, now I'm all confused about which comes first Roadblock or Detour--but I'm taking those CBS clues with a grain of salt because they are not always entirely accurate...

But I thought we had figured out that it is too hot for the ratties except in the early AM--and by apskip's flight arrivals teams wouldn't be getting in till too late for them on 11/30.

That's why Chateautime of 2-4 for the detour shots seemed to be perfect--do the detour on the 11/30, then bunch for Hours of Op for the ratties in the AM of 12/1, with pitstop back at the fort. And don't the clothes match too from Ratties to Pitstop but not from Detour to Pitstop?? (can't quite remember but I thought so...)

And the task that I think is sandbags--is that really in the dark or just that awful TV lighting?

I still think that there will be some AIDS recognition on 12/1 (World AIDS Day) since the incidence in Mozambique is more than 13.5%...and since TAR is such a supportor of the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation, but haven't figured out how that fits in timewise either. We know there is an AIDS March somewhere though, and all walks etc that I have found (in other places in Africa) are on the actual day.


Just had a thought---I guess they could do Ratties in the cool of the evening, then Aids March/Orphanage or whatever they come up with 12/1 AM, then Detours? Hmmm...have got to find those clothes shots...

Is there a new preview? Did anybody catch it?
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Post by: apskip on March 16, 2007, 08:19:53 PM
As suspected ..nothing yet ...I think it updates around 4 ET if someone wants to check back.

MONDAY MORNING ON THE EARLY SHOW  (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/10/04/broadcasts/main64925.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories)

PUDDIN, I would guess that you did not expect to find an elimination in Maputo. That means no TES guests and probably no FINISH LINE (unless they have Jill and John Vito on since they did not appear after their elimination).
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 09:12:16 PM
apskip I was just confirming what we already knew because theirs always gong to be someone that asks " do you think its a TBC or NEL?"


clothes



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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 09:17:04 PM

clothes

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_13Mar0007.jpg) Toes
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/phil5/th_14Mar0037.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0011.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_11Mar0007.jpg) pitstop
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_15Mar0063.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/th_15Mar0073.jpg) rats

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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 09:18:14 PM
clothes that make no sense:



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Post by: michael on March 16, 2007, 09:34:43 PM
yeah - those clothes confuse me!!

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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 11:02:13 PM
 :browsie:

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(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP5/299739941_59de554823.jpg)
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 16, 2007, 11:06:34 PM
Okay Puddin, I'll bite.

Where was that shot taken?
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Post by: puddin on March 16, 2007, 11:57:20 PM
 :-\ from this album  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/julieandnick/sets/72157594377189234/?page=6)
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 12:26:46 AM
Thanks Puddin.

From that album, it looks like your shot was taken here at the Mercado Municipal.  I looked closer at it in GE and it turnsout that it does have an ally that matches the sun's direction for the promo of Charla & Mirna doing nail polish.

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 12:30:57 AM
Thats what I was trying to match up too Chateau ..still looking

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 12:32:56 AM
...oh, I know its not her  :lol:

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 01:25:47 AM
It looks like the rat Roadblock takes place near the ocean.

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 01:33:43 AM
This close up of Mirna shows the blue shirt she has on at the rat Roadblock.

I was confused by the blue jacket.

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 04:22:26 AM
Oh great eye puddin! Nice to have the market found!! :yess:

With so few clothes you would think this would be easier!

Charla has on the same shirt for Roadblock, Detour and Pitstop--but she wore that pink sweater to death too!

Mirna's matches for Detour and Roadblock but not for Pit stop--unless she has that on underneath the other blue shirt?

Oh boy oh boy--finally we get to see Charla on wheelies! :happy:

I was rewatching the glacier climb--do you think they are working together during the dig? An Intersection of sorts? Looked like four together here and there...

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Post by: NDIrish on March 17, 2007, 09:13:28 AM
>>Puddin wrote on page 4 (I couldn't find the quote button)Team arrive at the Mastil Crucero A.R.A. General Belgrano,  pitstop EP4 in this order:

1) Oswald/Danny
2) Eric/Danielle
3) Teri/Ian
4) Joe/Bill
5) Dustin/Kandice
6) Uchenna/Joyce
7) Charla/Mirna

Does anybody know the time variances on the various team arrivals on the Phil's mat last week?  Is there enough that is going to give some team(s), especially the first half since they go first, a beneficial head start for this next leg?  Or were they so close together in time they are bunched together on a fairly even starting gate?   ???

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 17, 2007, 09:38:50 AM
Are we ready yet in Ep5 for one of the following:

YIELD?

INTERSECTION?

FAST FORWARD?

TBC?

or

TBC ?
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:22:05 AM
I think its a NEL Gman because we do have pitstop confessionals and the Fort was spoiled as a pitstop way back when we didn't know too much.
Peach I get the feeling that E/D and U/J are just working together at the Glacier/Clue.
And NDIrish no matter when they leave the Ushuaia pitstop I don't think any lead matters as we see all teams pretty much bunched at Rats/Roadblock except Teri/Ian but I suspect they are just out of the camara shots.
Whats still confusing is the clue about Danny and the AIDS march ..other than knowing AIDS day is DEC 1st, we can't find any hard evidence of any so called march in the Maputo area. Chateau spotted the ocean near the Roadblock so maybe we are looking for the so called AIDS march somewhere outside the area  ???

sharper fwiw ..

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
The backs of the Guido's shirts

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:44:38 AM
I don't know if thats water near the Roadblock..it looks like a hill/Mountain to me?

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:47:56 AM
Maybe its a wall?

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:58:32 AM
Maybe its one of those other forts that I've seen around Mozambique  :lol:?

For instance  (http://www.usaid.gov/mz/photogal_rotimg.htm) ..where ever this is  :groan:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 12:03:22 PM
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On World AIDS Day, 1 December, Alliance staff members joined Beira citizens, school students, non-governmental, government, community- and faith-based organisations, in a two-hour march to show solidarity in the face of HIV and AIDS. The march takes place on World AIDS Day each year, and culminated in speeches by those involved.

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 12:15:58 PM
Maybe you can make a connection peach? I have to shovel snow  :groan:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 12:48:17 PM
Jeez--MORE snow? I feel so bad for y'all....

My azaleas are trying to bloom   :angel:

And trust me--I've tried all week to make that connection but--I don't think there is one.

And that fort might be the one on Ilha do Mocambique:

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 17, 2007, 01:02:14 PM
Since there has been no mention of "the latest castoff from The Amazing Race" as a guest on TES Monday, it sure seems to be that we will have our first NEL. 

If it is indeed an NEL will TPTB:

1. Come up with some new scheme?

2. Repeat TAR10's come in first in the next leg or be eliminated?

3..Resort back to surrender all your clothing and money?

4..Resort back, back to just surrender all your money?

5. Resont back, back, back to nothing happening to the last place team?

And since the boot list has Ian and Teri as the next team to go will they come in last this ep and be eliminated in the next, or will Schmirma come in last but come in first next week with Ian and Teri last.
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 17, 2007, 01:08:48 PM
SUNDAY PROGRAM ALERT

The last scheduled tip-off of the NCAA basketball game (UCLA) is at 5:15PM.  The games usually run at least two hours sometimes more.  So the Start of TAR probably will be pushed back (in the East) to around 8:30PM. 

People planning to record should set their timers to begin around 8:15PM and run until 9:45 just to be on the safe side!
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 01:33:40 PM
farking basketball   :knuckles:!!
Gman if the teams are forced to beg for money in Maputo I will become sick to my stomach ..Mozambique is among one of the poorest countries in the world ...the pictures tell the story  :'(
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 02:31:35 PM
This shot was taken between 1:31 and 2:02 pm (assumes November 26th).

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
This shot was taken between 12:09 and 12:46 pm (assumes November 26th).

There is no way that the second group of teams arrived at 1:50 pm as indicated in the show.  Besides it is only a 50 min  flight from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia.  So some time warp is going on here!

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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 02:51:24 PM
And from Chateau d If

Shadows for Uchenna & Joyce you can get arough guess for most of the others.

With a time of 1:30pm to 2:00pm Uchenna & Joyce as ajumping off Point.

Oswald & Danny could be as early as 10:10-10:40 am
Eric & Danielle woud be int hat same time area but perhaps  5 minutes laer.

Teri & Ian who made the 2cd boat, but by there own words say they spent about 40 minutes looking for the routemarker, probably missed the next boat and had to settle for at the earliesta  boat that was 40 minutes behind Danny & Oswlad & Eric & Danielle.  Teri also seemed to feel that she took a long time at the roadblock.

So I would guess 11:00am-11:30am

Joe & Bill finished just briefly before Dustin & Kandicce (you can see them in the Matt Chats) and should be roughly three hours after Oswald & Danny & Eric & Danielle yet about 20 in front of Uchenna & Joyce.

So I would estimate 1:10pm-1:40 pm

Dustin & Kandice at 1:11pm-1:42pm

And then Charla & Mirna who had to wait an addition 20 minutes for their boat.  But its reported that their boat made the trip quickly (most likely due to the large difference in the weight.  Mirna and three average sixed persons plus Charla.  But for Uchenna & Joyce's boat.  You would have 4 racers, and four additional people filming and the driver of the boat.  So their boat should have made up a lot of time.  But part of that time should be lost due to the slower pace Charla would have to keep in the woods.

So for Charla & Mirna I would expect anywhere from 2:00pm-2:40 pm.  

Though Uchenna & Joyce are seen at teh Pit Stop greeting Charla & Mirna.  Either two things happened.

Uchenna & Joyce royally sucked at getting to the Pit Stop in which case subtract about 20 minutes from all the teams times that arrived before them.

Or they hung around longer then usually for either interviews or just to see who would get eliminated.

But it appears that there is a significant bunching point before the glacier event either in travel arrangements or hours of operations since two teams shown working together should have started with a difference of over 3 hours.
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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 02:53:25 PM
Chateau the flight started at 11:00am and they should have arrived at 11:50 am.  Which really matches up with your shadows.  Give them time to grab their gear, and get throught he airport should always take several mintues.

Its funny, since I do go through these damn things.

Did the episode actually show a time stamp of 1:50?

Because, yeah thats wrong.

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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 02:56:37 PM
Yeap, I rechecked they put the wrong time stamp on it.

But it also gives us a better indication of Teri & Ians position since they feel that they are just leaving the docks at around the same time of 11:50am.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 03:20:47 PM
They also time stamped the first group as arriving at 10:45.  That group was supposed to have left Punta Arenas at 8:00 am.  Unfortunately, for this group it was too overcast to get a shadow at USH airport.

There is one more thing I think you may want to torque into your analysis and that is the E&D and Chas zodiac got loaded up to go in the 11:48 am to 12:03 pm time frame:

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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 03:30:42 PM
They also time stamped the first group as arriving at 10:45.  That group was supposed to have left Punta Arenas at 8:00 am.  Unfortunately, for this group it was too overcast to get a shadow at USH airport.

There is one more thing I think you may want to torque into your analysis and that is the E&D and Chas zodiac got loaded up to go in the 11:48 am to 12:03 pm time frame:

Well that sucks and makes no sense at all.

I am going to have to ponder that for a while.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 03:36:06 PM
It looks like about a 10 to 15 minute ride to Playa Larga

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 03:41:51 PM
And then about 30 minutes to the zodiac dock.

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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 03:43:30 PM
And figure about 10-15 minutes to get out of the airport and get cabs.

So yeah, it doesn't make sense at all.
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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 04:14:31 PM
Chateau, I can't figure this out.  If the flight was on time (which it is possible it was late, and we ssume it took a hour to go from the plane to the boats thats puts us at around 10am.  WHich is significantly off.

I have to assume that not only was there a limit on how often the boats departed, but that they didn't start until roughly your time stamp of Eric & Danielle and the Oswald & Danny.

Which does actually make some sense, since in the clips they go to great lengths to joke about how long Teri & Ian must be looking in the hills for the clue box in the wrong direction.  Which does play into Ian admitting that they spent about 40 minutes in the wrong area.  Perhaps he is saving face, and it was a little longer, say closr to an hour.

And lets assume that the first flight did in fact arrive leave and arrive late (which is possible and would explain why Amber that it was possible that they might catch up to the first pack, I mean a three hour gap in the 2cd half of the race is usually fairly solid to the Pit Stop.

This could mean that they might have arrived say at closer to 10, then 9 with a delay. Spent about an hour getting to teh dock area, gives time for Ian & Teri to be lost close to an hour, and bunching point with the times that the boats start hours of operation, would also explain how E & D and O & D know that Teri & Ian have lost a significant amount of time.  They could get to the docks just after the other teams left.  Which would be fairly close to the arrival time of the 2cd flight.  This also helps support why Teri is so worried about how long she is taking doing the roadblock.

Flights lands close to Noon, gives them an hour to get to the docks gives times for roughly a 30 minute wait for Uchenna & Joyce 2cd boat.  To do the tasks and get to the Pit Stop aroung your 1:30-2:00 calculation.

Its the only thing I can think of that makes any sense. 

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 17, 2007, 04:39:46 PM
That  sounds like a good arrangement.  I can't wait to hear them say Uchenna and Joyce depart at 2:00 am.  Not even realizing that they gave us a 1:50 pm landing time.   :lol3:

Or, I could just be way off with the time calcs.   :o
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Post by: mswood on March 17, 2007, 05:29:49 PM
They do on occasion get their legend material inaccurate.

But usually if a flight, is significantly off someone will mention it.

But with so much of this episode given to setting up Rob & Amber's demise.  They probably just didn't feel it was worth it to put in of that in any of the dialogue clips.
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 05:36:21 PM
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On World AIDS Day, 1 December, Alliance staff members joined Beira citizens, school students, non-governmental, government, community- and faith-based organisations, in a two-hour march to show solidarity in the face of HIV and AIDS. The march takes place on World AIDS Day each year, and culminated in speeches by those involved.


Isn't Beira like a zillion miles from Maputo?  ???
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
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On World AIDS Day, 1 December, Alliance staff members joined Beira citizens, school students, non-governmental, government, community- and faith-based organisations, in a two-hour march to show solidarity in the face of HIV and AIDS. The march takes place on World AIDS Day each year, and culminated in speeches by those involved.


Isn't Beira like a zillion miles from Maputo?  ???

Yep. Which is why I posted that I didn't think there could be a connection. It was just the only AIDS march I was able to find any info on at all.

Didn't mean to muddy the waters any more than they already are! :lol: (crawling back into my hole...)
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 05:57:50 PM
Well, I'm no good at these kind of things but maybe this can help:

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World AIDS Day began in each location with a parade through the town that included members of the administration, hospital staff, other AIDS advocacy groups and community members.

source:
http://www.ird-dc.org/what/mozambique_aidsday.htm
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 06:12:17 PM
Don't feel bad peach i'm in Chokwé now  :rotf:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 06:15:57 PM
Oh, VERY good job, Michael D!

That's even more interesting because apskip has previously posted that the training camp for the ratties is there, and that the distance would be feasible.

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I may have the answer to the dilemma posed above. It can be found on the APOPO website. APOPO is the organization running the landmine clearing operation further north in Mozambique, but its training base is here:
apskip wrote:
Mine Detection Rats
PO Box 649 , Maputo - Mozambique
Country office, Logistics and Training base:
Avenida da Revolucao, Inhambane
Tel/Fax: + 258 293 20 126 - Mobile : + 258 82 31 80 990

Inhambane is 300 km (190 miles) north and east of Maputo on the coast. I am guessing that it will be 4 to 5 hours by car or bus. That is doable for tired Amazing Race teams, even though it is equally possible that the rats are imported to the Maputo area for a special task.
 


Inhanbane has everything we need to complete some of the screencaps--beautiful beaches, dhows, fishing, dolphin swimming---but that doesn't explain how they still end up back in Maputo at that doggone fort.

Unless we are looking at this backwards? Maybe they arrive Maputo via Jo-burg but go directly on to Inhambane via another flight? Or car or whatever...

Do the ratties, see the AIDS march, (I would still like a children's AIDS segment here), and then go back to Maputo for the Detour and Pitstop.

Gosh--now I'll have to go back and look at all those Chateautime shots to see if this could possibly fit!

Thanks Michael D!
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 06:19:30 PM
hehe, thanks georgiapeach!

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 06:25:47 PM
more Clothes!! and the teams are not driving the trucks which would explain those shots of the BQ's & Shmirna in different clothes in the back seats of the trucks not taxi's like I thought..



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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 06:27:49 PM
Danielle also has different hair then she does in her confessionals and at the road block.

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 06:32:52 PM
Ok you two maybe that is it? teams arrive in Maputo via airplane but are driven somewhere far maybe Inhanbane? overnite, early morning in Inhambane, RATS then back to Maputo for the detour and pitstop?
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 06:36:09 PM
That seems to be the most logical course for the episode right now. It would explain the clothing (and hair) changes also.
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 06:39:09 PM
Again ..same vehicle as above 

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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 06:43:40 PM
I wonder why the teams aren't driving themselves. Don't teams usually drive everywhere unless the terrain is to dangerous to drive on?
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 06:49:01 PM
It might be too dangerous and from what I read there is no taxi or bus services outside Maputo?

from my crappy cable  :angel:.. once again

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 06:54:23 PM
We need Chateau, mswood, and apskip to chime in here!


Is this possible time-line wise??

Oh, boy! At least there is something new to work on! :happy:

I read all those Inhambane blogs last week --off to recheck!
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 06:55:13 PM
haha, I'm glad I finally got to contribute something actually worth it  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:04:02 PM
Did I say  :gj: Michael?  :jumpy:
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:06:58 PM
There is a bus from Inhambane to Maputo but even the locals don't recommend it.
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 07:09:52 PM
Did I say  :gj: Michael?  :jumpy:

thanks Puddin!
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:13:11 PM
haha, I'm glad I finally got to contribute something actually worth it  :lol:

 :yourock:

puddin--where are these new pics coming from? Have I missed another promo? Is it posted?

Gosh--and just think--I was bored to tears 30 minutes ago! :lol:

 Bus blog!  (http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/keyword2.pl?tweb_keyword=inhambane)

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The bus was already packed when we got in, and we went up toward the front. There were 2 open seats but a guy said that they were saved. We stood for a while and eventually just sat down in those seats. Thank God we did that because we would have had the most uncomfortable ride of our lives. Even in the seats it was uncomfortable. We were sitting for the entire ride. I slept and kept sitting while Ang got up at every stop we made. It was a long, long day with sweaty, smelly armpits in my face from those who were standing in the aisle right next to me, brushing up against me at every bump (and there were MANY bumps because the roads were horrible). But eventually we made it to Inhambane and we got there ahead of schedule even!
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:14:34 PM
It was a commercial during the dreaded damn basketball game peach :lol:

Maputo, Mozambique 241.4 miles to Inhambane, Mozambique
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:16:49 PM
Is there video yet?? Knew I should have been watching that game!

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INHAMBANE 

The city of Inhambane is one of the oldest settlements in southern Africa. In 1534, Portuguese traders established a permanent presence and a trading post there and their influence can be seen in the architecture and layout of the city. There are many old buildings in the city, in varying states of repair. The market, which is well-organised and clean, is well worth a visit, and is good value particularly for locally produced woven straw baskets and mats.

Those heading directly for the beaches should drive down the main street of the town. At the roundabout, take the right hand turn (near the Clube Ferroviário) and continue straight out along this road. The road narrows as you leave the town and from here, it is about 21km to the fork for Ponta da Barra and Tofo beach.

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:19:25 PM
I can make a video but it would suck  :lol: ..trust me
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:32:11 PM
Inhambane pics--

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:36:20 PM
Inhambane market pics

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
peach, I've seen those pictures and always thought it was our Maputo fort  :lol:

Michael your a detective now  :waves:   :happy:
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
thanks Puddin :happy:

peace - we must have been thinking the same cause as soon as I read about inhambane I went looking for market pictures and then I also googled "Inhambane - Manicure" and something came up that looked oddly like the manicure kit Charla was holding.
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:46:46 PM
RATS!! (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.mc-orosquette.com/gallery.asp%3Fgallery_id%3D2553&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DInhambane%2Brats%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_enUS207US208%26sa%3DN)


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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:48:50 PM
 :wohoo: Michael!

I know puddin--I can't find a tourist info about a fort but the pics are tagged Inhambane so stuck them in...who knows if half the tourists actually know where they were? Sometimes I have trouble when I'm travelling too! :lol:

This is actually very sad--(the TAR curse again??) because this is the area that was hit very hard by the Cyclone and flooding in Feb/March...

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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
thanks Puddin :happy:

peace - we must have been thinking the same cause as soon as I read about inhambane I went looking for market pictures and then I also googled "Inhambane - Manicure" and something came up that looked oddly like the manicure kit Charla was holding.
I still think the pictures prove that the manicure task is back in Maputo.
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 07:52:53 PM
thanks Puddin :happy:

peace - we must have been thinking the same cause as soon as I read about inhambane I went looking for market pictures and then I also googled "Inhambane - Manicure" and something came up that looked oddly like the manicure kit Charla was holding.
I still think the pictures prove that the manicure task is back in Maputo.

yeah, that's why I didn't post those pictures because I'm pretty sure I read about the pictures proving it is in Maputo.

Good find with the rats!
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 07:55:42 PM
Great Rattie pictures! Why do I think like Joyce that these are actually kind of cute?? Normally I hate rodents!

I think the manicure task has been definitely ID'd by puddin with perfect photo matches as being in Maputo!

Wish they didn't have to go back there though--I want our guys to get some beach time--maybe swim with the dolphins or the whale sharks!

So I have the game on now--I must really want to see that preview!
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 08:05:50 PM
yeah - I'm watching too in hopes of seeing the preview ... *is a big nerd*
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Post by: apskip on March 17, 2007, 08:08:04 PM
Yes, of course they can get to Inhambane in plenty of time to have a Dec. 1 early morning ratfest.
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
No audio and yes as predicted it sucks

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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 08:18:04 PM
haha, thanks Puddin, that videos not too bad, it's pretty good actually.

Do we think there is going to be a yield on this leg?
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 08:43:54 PM
It depends on if they want to use the Yield I guess?
Do you all think they all take the same flight? It looks like the trucks racing are the top 3 teams E/D, Chas, T/I only to find out they have a HoursOfOperation  :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 08:45:57 PM
haha, I'm not sure if they all take the same flight, but it must suck for the front teams if they DO get on an earlier flight only to discover that all the other teams are going to catch up.

hehe, thank god for HOH.

Of course, for all we know all the teams can be there at the same time and we just didn't see them in that new preview.
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 08:48:23 PM
Our greeter?

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 09:09:58 PM
My Inhambane fort pics are definitely in Maputo so will pull them from Inhambane...

Thanks for the video! I can only watch so much non-Duke basketball! :lol:

I think they take trucks to Inhambame.

I'm no apskip but I did find a flight--once a week-- back from Inhambane to Maputo but looks to me that it is only on Sunday (or maybe every day except Sunday?)  --would be nice if they could fly one way anyhow...

And some road pics...

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Post by: makz3d on March 17, 2007, 10:05:14 PM
Since there has been no mention of "the latest castoff from The Amazing Race" as a guest on TES Monday, it sure seems to be that we will have our first NEL. 

If it is indeed an NEL will TPTB:

1. Come up with some new scheme?

2. Repeat TAR10's come in first in the next leg or be eliminated?

3..Resort back to surrender all your clothing and money?

4..Resort back, back to just surrender all your money?

5. Resont back, back, back to nothing happening to the last place team?

And since the boot list has Ian and Teri as the next team to go will they come in last this ep and be eliminated in the next, or will Schmirma come in last but come in first next week with Ian and Teri last.

RNO interviewed Bertram Van Munster 3/7/2007 and this is what he says about NEL:

RNO: The penalty for non-elimination has changed. It used to be nothing, then taking a team’s money, then money and possessions, then in the most recent race it changed to a time penalty. Do you have the penalty balance right now?

Van Munster: Yes, I think we have it right. I think it was right before, too. I thought it was fun when the Bowling Moms had no money in Egypt and they went to the American tour bus and rounded up more money than we would have given them. I think it's a lot of fun and that keeps people on their toes.

http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article6831.art&page=1 (http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article6831.art&page=1)
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 10:07:51 PM
The Bowling Moms Ruled  :jam:

thanks makz3d :yaya:
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Post by: apskip on March 17, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
GEORGIAPEACH, you have motivated me to see what I could find about flights from Maputo to Inharbane. I verify that this is no Saturday Dec. 2 flight at all and that the info you have for a nonstop Sunday Dec. 3 is correct. There is no flight on Thursday Nov. 30 when they arrive, but on Friday Dec. 1 there is this:

LAM Mozambique
TM 2202  Maputo International (MPM), Maputo, Mozambique  11:20
 Inhambane (INH), Inhambane, Mozambique  13:35
 1 stop(s) / J41  2h15min 
 
The conclusion I draw is that if teams go to Inhambane, then they aren't going to fly there and they aren't going to fly back to Maputo. They will use road transportation.
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 10:20:22 PM
Puddin I just thought of something, even though E/D, T/I, AND D/O were teams number 1,2,3 and we see them racing in the cars with no other teams around, that doesn't mean they kept their lead, because we have shots of E/D working with U/J at the glacier don't we?
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 10:24:20 PM
 :hello2:  Thank you apskip!

We have a new preview that has the teams running around in trucks--so looks like they could be driven there on 11/30.

Does that flight I found go only on Sundays? Cause it would be nice if we could let them fly Inhambane-Maputo on 12/1 after the Ratties...
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Post by: makz3d on March 17, 2007, 10:26:30 PM
There's been a lot about what order roadblock and detour will be for this leg.


http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article6831.art&page=1 (http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article6831.art&page=1)

Here's some more of RNO Bertram Van Munster interview of 3/7/2007 pertaining to order of markers and a statement that may make things very interesting.  I put these together so I didn't have 3 messages about the same interview.

RNO: You introduced the Intersection mechanic in the most recent season. Do you have any new game mechanics coming up in All-Stars?

Van Munster: No. The mechanics of the game stay the same. We move the markers around a little bit to keep everyone on their toes.

RNO: I noticed on the first episode that Phil said that a team “will” be eliminated. On the most reason seasons, he's been saying “may” be eliminated at Pit Stops. He also mentioned eight eliminations, but he didn't say anything about the number of non-elimination legs. Is there a reason for this change?

Van Munster: No... The reason – you'll find out when you watch all 13 episodes. Very good of you [to notice that]!

NOTE:  I pasted the 2 questions out of order
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 10:28:54 PM
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Van Munster: No... The reason – you'll find out when you watch all 13 episodes. Very good of you [to notice that]!

hmm...i wonder what the heck that is referring to.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
Some new twist?

Wouldn't it be loverly if we had a final four instead of a final three?!  Heee...it is probably just too much basketball! :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 17, 2007, 11:03:11 PM
Bert said no new twists  or was it Phil in one of the interviews and Michael I keep forgetting about that damn Glacier waste of time task  :lol:
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Post by: michael on March 17, 2007, 11:07:13 PM
hahah, the only reason I like that task is because I like episodes that are packed with things to do  :js:
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 12:35:37 AM
omg I am bored again .........RAT video!! (http://www.gng.org/ml/library.php?movieid=49) :rats:
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Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 12:42:24 AM
those rats are gigantic

haha yeah Puddin, I'm also bored!

I can't wait until this episode airs. Hopefully the promo for the following episode will give us more to go by then last weeks promo.
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 12:56:47 AM
More rat pictures maybe you all can decide if this is where the Roadblock takes place or not?



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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 01:05:37 AM
ok 2 more... :nitenite:

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Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 01:15:12 AM
It looks like a match to me puddin!
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Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 01:55:24 AM
I'm bored too.  I've gotten myself so confused on what's going on when and so forth.

OT:        :ot:

Started a job 2 weeks ago and had to work days before going on nights tonight (Sun).  Took a nap Fri night after working all day and set alarm for 10:30 PM, then reset for 11:30, shut off alarm and got up 6 AM Sat.  I have to stay up till 5 or 6 this morning so I can sleep during the day and not fall asleep tonight.  I considered myself a night person after working nights for many years and then going on days for 2 weeks messed me up.

      :ignore:               :whever:

                     :carryon:
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Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 02:08:25 AM
Dang, I had cute smileys for my last message.  They aren't there.  Was I supposed to do more than click add image and then click on what I want?  I previewed and they didn't show so I re did them and previewed and they still weren't there so I thought that they didn't show in the preview.

What did I do wrong.  I guess I'm too tired to remember how I did it before.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 02:30:54 AM
Cute smilies should show up! :rat?:
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Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 02:36:30 AM
  :ignore:       :nm:

testing---Realize I just click and proceed.  For some reason I thought I had to click to insert image.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 12:25:29 PM
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It looks like a match to me puddin!

What are we matching to ?    :umn:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 12:43:34 PM
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It looks like a match to me puddin!

What are we matching to ?    :umn:

We have a new theory that the teams get to Maputo and then are driven in trucks directly to Inhambane to the apopo Rattie training camp there (see puddins pics of same above). I'm guessing Roadblock there on the 12/1 AM, then contact with the AIDS march (Michael D found a march in Inhambane on 12/1 which prompted all this), then back to Maputo for the Detours and Pitstop that afternoon.

Will that fit in with Chateautimes?

With that weird blue filming of the teams at the what I think is filling sandbags task--is there any way to get a sense of what time they are there? It all looks like night to me...
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 01:16:23 PM
I'm still trying to have the teams NOT to have to backtrack to Maputo.

What to you all think about this maybe wall at the fill the bags detour task? Could this be the Maputo Fort wall?

Because if this is the Fort wall, then the Fort could be Detour not Pitstop, and then the teams could do both Detours in Maputo on 11/30, drive to Inhambane for hours of op, do the Roadblock on 12/1 and not have to backtrack to Maputo again, which would really seem to make more sense...There are so many swimming with dolphins, and/or whale sharks ops nearby Inhambane at the beaches (great for next week!) that it seems a shame to make them go backwards--it would also be closer to Dar, although flights might be easier out of Maputo.

I know the confessional looks like the Fort--but there are a lot of those old orange walls around and we haven't actually found that stairway in any of the Fort pics--so maybe the confessionals could actually be in Inhambane somewhere?? We only have the blog for evidence that the Fort is the Pitstop (and pics) right?

What do y'all think?? I know it is just a possibility--or not??

I just want NO BACKTRACKING on my race! :lol: But of course they do it all the time...

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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 01:22:08 PM
  nkatekwan  (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2666383&view=findpost&p=6838231) posted at Twop's
Some friends of mine are Peace Corps vols in Mozambique and claim that the race came through Maputo sometime between Thanksgiving and December 7. One of the destinations was the old Portuguese fort (pictured here: http://tabisite.com/gallery_af/mozambique/91af265.jpg). Unfortunately they didn't have any other details. This does seem consistent with the spoilers that teams were on their way to South Africa, as Maputo is usually reached through Joburg

  Maputo: Portuguese fort on East Timor street (http://www.travel-images.com/view.shtml?mozambique8.jpg)

Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg173787.html#msg173787) finds a blog entry posted on Dec 8th
* I think this is the blog (http://peacecorpsmoz.blogspot.com/) of the Peace Corps workers mentioned earlier. It's only a couple of lines near the bottom of the page:
**p.s. They just filmed the amazing race in Maputo!! I don´t know any details but I have been to the fort where the pit stop was.
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 01:22:26 PM
Oh, I thought that someone had found web photos that matched our promo photos of the rat task location.

To that end this would be the shot to try to match:

About the time of the bag filling task, I don't see enough sunshine to make a good estimate.  But I would just guess that it looks like end-of-day.  Two hours or so before sunset.

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Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 01:36:56 PM


We have a new theory that the teams get to Maputo and then are driven in trucks directly to Inhambane to the apopo Rattie training camp there (see puddins pics of same above). I'm guessing Roadblock there on the 12/1 AM, then contact with the AIDS march (Michael D found a march in Inhambane on 12/1 which prompted all this), then back to Maputo for the Detours and Pitstop that afternoon.

Will that fit in with Chateautimes?

With that weird blue filming of the teams at the what I think is filling sandbags task--is there any way to get a sense of what time they are there? It all looks like night to me...
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The newest photos Puddin posted above shows blue uniforms.  Note in previous pictures of TARAS at rats that we see the arm and leg of someone in a long sleeve blue shirt and someone with long blue pants.  None of the racers' clothes fit but the blue does fit with the guys in the Apopo uniforms.

In the upper right corner of the bag filling picture you can see that it's daylight.  It was either pausing the video or one of the captures that shows the light good but not enough to tell time of day.

Anyone wonder what's in the back of the pickups?  The tarp is not flat.  Dirt?
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 02:39:48 PM
Rattie location comparisons:  looks like some possibilities cause there are lots of trees in that field.

Good pick up on the blue arms, mkz3d!

Now, about my wall??   :flirt:

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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 03:02:09 PM
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The newest photos Puddin posted above shows blue uniforms.  Note in previous pictures of TARAS at rats that we see the arm and leg of someone in a long sleeve blue shirt and someone with long blue pants.  None of the racers' clothes fit but the blue does fit with the guys in the Apopo uniforms.
:tup: good catch makz3d

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Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 03:23:18 PM
Thanks makz3d!
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
peach I don't think the digging/dirtbags is near the fortaleza in Maputo  :lol:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 03:54:35 PM
Thanks puddin--that aerial view excluded all those other shacks/houses...

So guess we'll end up back in Maputo tonight after all...

And then hopefully off to Tanzania next week--one of my favorite spots ever!
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Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 05:19:58 PM
Just because I wanted to know:   FAQ Apopo (http://www.apopo.org/newsite/content/index.htm)

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 18, 2007, 05:21:18 PM
Also this:

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How long can a rat work?
Normally, the rats are trained about half an hour per day, five days per week. During this period, they are on a food-for-work diet; while during the weekend they feast on an extensive varied meal.
In the REST analysis, rats can evaluate between 100 and 150 filters in about 15 minutes.
In the field, the free running rats scan a 100m2 box in 28 minutes on average. They can do two boxes in one session.

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Mine Detection Rats
PO Box 649 , Maputo - Mozambique
Country office, Logistics and Training base:
Avenida da Revolucao, Inhambane
Tel/Fax: + 258 293 20 126 - Mobile : + 258 82 31 80 990


Hey Peach, give them a call!

ETA:  Apskip actually posted the contact info on March 13th.  I'm not claiming it to be new material I have found.


Notice the exaact same protection vest.  I think this is definitely going to be the place.    :jam:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 05:55:15 PM

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Hey Peach, give them a call!

 :lol: Thank goodness it is the middle of the night over there! And Eu não falo o português!

But if you want me to brush off my Swahili next week,  :lol:   let me know! :blume:


Somebody please tell me basketball is finishing on time!
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 06:01:19 PM
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Somebody please tell me basketball is finishing on time!
  (:;) not a chance in hell!
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Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 06:02:30 PM
haha, i feel bad for you guys, i get to watch it at normal time on CTV!  :happy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 06:04:42 PM
haha, i feel bad for you guys, i get to watch it at normal time on CTV!  :happy:

Well--even though you are a detective now and all--NO spoiling the rest of us poor "have to wait for Andy Rooney" suckers!
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Post by: michael on March 18, 2007, 06:18:22 PM
haha don't worry - I'll keep my mouth shut;D!

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Post by: apskip on March 18, 2007, 06:33:01 PM
Well, the NCAA games shown in the East have now switchced to the Texas game with about 1 minute to go. 60 Minutes did start at 746pm. there are only 2 stories to be shown so it could go only 45 minutes tonight and Amazing Race could start around 830pm in the EAST.
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Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 06:40:52 PM
Not sure about this but I just checked Mon morning Early Show with my Time Warner Cable TV Guide listing and it says that the Amazing Race Castoff will be on.  My episode guide for local paper has:   

SYNOPSIS:         Actor Mark Wahlberg; the latest castoff from ``The Amazing Race: All-Stars.''

I WONDER NOW
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
CBS Insight doesn't show a TAR team--but TV Guide does too...

Guess we should believe CBS??

puddin??
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Post by: gingerman28 on March 18, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
PROGHRAM ALERT

ESTIMATED START TIME FOR TAR IN THE EAST AND MIDWEST IS 8:45/7:45 RUNNING UNTIL 9:45/8:45.  PROGRAM YOUR RECORDERS ACCORDINGLY.
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 18, 2007, 06:52:43 PM
Not sure about this but I just checked Mon morning Early Show with my Time Warner Cable TV Guide listing and it says that the Amazing Race Castoff will be on.  My episode guide for local paper has:   

SYNOPSIS:         Actor Mark Wahlberg; the latest castoff from ``The Amazing Race: All-Stars.''

I WONDER NOW

Rob/Amber interview part two?
Teri/Ian? I hope not.

Congratulations, Michael. :jam:

And great job, everyone, with the new finds! :jumpy:
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Post by: red_sox on March 18, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
Can one of you guys PLEASE PLESE PLEASE upload this episode to YouTube tonight? I wanna watch it so bad :(
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 07:03:57 PM
I can't upload the show, sorry redsox  :(

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Below is THE EARLY SHOW Lineup for Monday, March 19, 2007 as of 2:40PM Friday.

                                                             

PLEASE NOTE: This information WILL be updated again several times overnight,
beginning at approximately 2:30AM, then again at 5:45AM, 6:45AM and 9:15AM for
West Coast Stations. Please do not forget to check the AM tie-in note in
Spacemail.

 

Harry Smith, Hannah Storm, Julie Chen, and Russ Mitchell anchor THE EARLY SHOW
from New York. John Elliott of our New York affiliate WCBS will bring us the
weather. Dave Price is off.

 

Please note that each night a 10-second "tomorrow" and "coming up" topical
anchor promo that can be used in a combo spot, teasing your local morning show
and THE EARLY SHOW, can be found in the Newspath Now server under "promos".
***This promo teases stories only in the 8AM hour only***.  Co-op stations, you
can use this promo to tease the broadcast in your own morning news.  Here is a
look at the promos we recorded for Monday's show:

 

Tomorrow (Coming up) on THE EARLY SHOW... Oscar nominee Mark Wahlberg on his
latest thriller Shooter out Friday. And, we'll have tips for healthy hair, too!
Tomorrow (Coming up) on THE EARLY SHOW... 

 

Please also note that a 20-second "tomorrow" and "coming up" topical anchor
promo can be found in the Newspath Now server under "promos".  Here is a look
at the promos we recorded for Monday's show:

 

I'm Harry Smith. I'm Hannah Storm. Tomorrow (Coming up) on THE EARLY SHOW...
The latest blockbuster Hollywood trial... Music producer Phil Spector charged
with the murder of actress Lana Clarkson... We'll have a preview. Plus, Oscar
nominee Mark Wahlberg on his latest thriller Shooter out Friday. And, tips for
healthy hair, too! Tomorrow (Coming up) on THE EARLY SHOW... 

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THE FOUR LOCAL WEATHER CUTAWAYS WILL HIT AT THE FOLLOWING APPROX. TIMES:

JOHN ELLIOT THROWS TO LOCAL WEATHER CUTAWAYS AT THE FOLLOWING TIMES:

1) 7:12:30

*****WE WILL CONFIRM THE HIT TIME FOR THE FIRST WEATHER CUTAWAY EVERY MORNING
AT 6:30AM ET VIA EVA******

2) 7:35:50

3) 8:08:30

4) 8:39:35

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7:04 SEGMENT ONE - FOURTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WAR IN IRAQ: PLEASE CHECK
OVERNIGHT WIRES FOR FURTHER DETAILS 

 

7:13 SEGMENT TWO - TBD: PLEASE CHECK OVERNIGHT WIRES FOR FURTHER DETAILS

 

7:18 SEGMENT THREE - TBD: PLEASE CHECK OVERNIGHT WIRES FOR FURTHER DETAILS

 

7:30 SEGMENT FOUR - SPECTOR JURY SELECTION BEGINS: (Dateline: Los Angeles, CA)
Music producer Phil Spector is well-known for inventing the "Wall of Sound" and
has worked with great bands like the Beatles and the Ramones. In 2003, he became
known for something very different. The body of actress Lana Clarkson was found
in his mansion in Alhambra, CA shot to death. Spector will finally stand trial
in Los Angeles for Clarkson's death starting with the jury selection on Monday.
CBS News National Correspondent Hattie Kauffman will join us with a preview. 

 

7:39 SEGMENT FIVE - MODERATE DRINKING THROUGH MANAGEMENT: The conventional
wisdom for problem drinkers is that they must quit drinking altogether in order
to be successful. But what if you don't want to stop? In Alcoholics Anonymous
and other 12-step programs, the key to being successful is abstinence from
alcohol. But there is another movement out there - one that believes that
quitting altogether isn't absolutely necessary. For one young wife and mother,
fearful of repeating the drinking behaviors of an alcoholic father, a program
called Moderation Management seems to be an acceptable option. EARLY SHOW
National Correspondent Tracy Smith will have more on this young woman's story
and how her story is one that is becoming increasingly more common.

 

7:48 SEGMENT SIX - IS YOUR CITY THE MOST KISSABLE?: Think your city has the
most kissable breath in the nation? Well, Dr. Harold Katz, author of the Bad
Breath Bible, is currently touring American cities to test how each ranks when
it comes to the best, most kissable breath. Who ranked highest won't be out
until the beginning of next year, but Dr. Katz will tell us how we can join in
on the fun... AND, he'll have great advice on how you can avoid bad breath!

 

8:00 SEGMENT SEVEN - TBD: PLEASE CHECK OVERNIGHT WIRES FOR FURTHER DETAILS

 

8:06 SEGMENT EIGHT - DAVE'S ALL ACCESS MOROCCO POSTCARD: (Dateline: Morocco)
Dave Price will send us a postcard from his All-Access adventure in Morocco.
We'll find out what Dave and his lucky winner, Julia Clough of Pittsburgh, have
been up to Monday morning.

 

8:09 SEGMENT NINE - PERFECT PARENTING - HAPPY KIDS: With so much negativity in
our world, how can you raise positive children? Dr. Karen Reivich of the
Positive Psychology Center at the University of Pennsylvania recently
co-authored a book, The Optimistic Child, detailing just how parents can raise
optimistic, healthy children in spite of negative events in their lives. Dr.
Reivich will join us Monday morning with advice.

 

8:15 SEGMENT TEN - BOX OFFICE PLUS - MARK WAHLBERG: Last summer, Mark Wahlberg
scored a box office touchdown with the number one opening of his football drama
Invincible. He followed that with the hugely successful crime drama The
Departed. His role led to an Academy Award nomination... his first. Well, the
Oscar-nominated actor is back again... this time as a man wrongly accused of an
assassination attempt in the thriller Shooter hitting theaters Friday. Wahlberg
will sit down with our own Harry Smith about his new flick Monday morning.

 

8:30 SEGMENT ELEVEN - NBA SENIOR DANCERS: NETSational Seniors, the senior
cheerleaders who perform at NJ Nets game, will perform their routine on the
plaza.

 

8:33 SEGMENT TWELVE - HEALTHY HAIR: Not sure what to do to restore your dry,
over-treated hair? CBS beauty contributor and hair extraordinaire David
Evangelista is back with more hair tips. Monday, he will join us with products
and techniques to help you repair AND maintain healthy, lustrous hair.

 

8:40 SEGMENT THIRTEEN - CULINARY INSPIRATIONS WITH JEAN-GEORGES: We begin our
week-long series Culinary Inspirations...We celebrate the beauty of food Monday
with the help of legendary chef Jean-Georges Vongerichten. Best known for
restaurants Jean-Georges, 66, and Vong, he will join us with his Asian street
vendor-inspired dishes exclusive to his popular restaurant Spice Market in
Manhattan.

 

8:45 SEGMENT FOURTEEN - THE RACE BEAT: PLEASE CHECK OVERNIGHT WIRES FOR FURTHER
DETAILS
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 07:05:45 PM
MONDAY MORNING ON THE EARLY SHOW

Harry Smith, Hannah Storm, Julie Chen, and Russ Mitchell anchor THE EARLY SHOW from New York. John Elliot of our New York affiliate, WCBS, will bring us the weather. Dave Price is off.

Along with the top news of the day, we will also have the following stories:

SPECTOR JURY SELECTION BEGINS: Music producer Phil Spector is well-known for inventing the "Wall of Sound" and has worked with great bands like the Beatles and the Ramones. In 2003, he became known for something very different. The body of actress Lana Clarkson was found in his mansion in Alhambra, CA shot to death. Spector will finally stand trial in Los Angeles for Clarkson's death starting with the jury selection on Monday. CBS News National Correspondent Hattie Kauffman will join us with a preview.

MODERATE DRINKING THROUGH MANAGEMENT: The conventional wisdom for problem drinkers is that they must quit drinking altogether in order to be successful. But what if you don't want to stop? In Alcoholics Anonymous and other 12-step programs, the key to being successful is abstinence from alcohol. But there is another movement out there - one that believes that quitting altogether isn't absolutely necessary. For one young wife and mother, fearful of repeating the drinking behaviors of an alcoholic father, a program called Moderation Management seems to be an acceptable option. Early Show National Correspondent Tracy Smith will have more on this young woman's story and how her story is one that is becoming increasingly more common.

IS YOUR CITY THE MOST KISSABLE?: Think your city has the most kissable breath in the nation? Well, Dr. Harold Katz, author of the Bad Breath Bible, is currently touring American cities to test how each ranks when it comes to the best, most kissable breath. Who ranked highest won't be out until the beginning of next year, but Dr. Katz will tell us how we can join in on the fun... AND, he'll have great advice on how you can avoid bad breath!

DAVE'S ALL ACCESS MOROCCO POSTCARD: Dave Price will send us a postcard from his All-Access adventure in Morocco. We'll find out what Dave and his lucky winner, Julia Clough of Pittsburgh, have been up to Monday morning.

PERFECT PARENTING - HAPPY KIDS: With so much negativity in our world, how can you raise positive children? Dr. Karen Reivich of the Positive Psychology Center at the University of Pennsylvania recently co-authored a book, The Optimistic Child, detailing just how parents can raise optimistic, healthy children in spite of negative events in their lives. Dr. Reivich will join us Monday morning with advice.

BOX OFFICE PLUS - MARK WAHLBERG: Last summer, Mark Wahlberg scored a box office touchdown with the number one opening of his football drama Invincible. He followed that with the hugely successful crime drama The Departed. His role led to an Academy Award nomination... his first. Well, the Oscar-nominated actor is back again... this time as a man wrongly accused of an assassination attempt in the thriller Shooter hitting theaters Friday. Wahlberg will sit down with our own Harry Smith about his new flick Monday morning.

NBA SENIOR DANCERS: NETSational Seniors, the senior cheerleaders who perform at NJ Nets game, will perform their routine on the plaza.

HEALTHY HAIR: Not sure what to do to restore your dry, overtreated hair? CBS beauty contributor and hair extraordinaire David Evangelista is back with more hair tips. Monday, he will join us with products and techniques to help you repair AND maintain healthy, lustrous hair.

CULINARY INSPIRATIONS WITH JEAN-GEORGES: We begin our week-long series Culinary Inspirations...We celebrate the beauty of food Monday with the help of legendary chef Jean-Georges Vongerichten. Best known for restaurants Jean-Georges, 66, and Vong, he will join us with his Asian street vendor-inspired dishes exclusive to his popular restaurant Spice Market in Manhattan.

Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 07:06:14 PM

Saturday, 3/17: Irish chef Kevin Dundon's modern twist on traditional Irish recipes for St. Patrick’s Day | Irish singing group Celtic Woman performs | Tips for weekend ER visits | Advice for job hunters
Monday, 3/19: Actor Mark Wahlberg discusses his new movie, “Shooter” | How to raise optimistic kids
Tuesday, 3/20: Latest fashion trends in denim | Dr. Jerome Groopman on his new book, "What Doctors Think"
Wednesday, 3/21: Tax return preparation tips | Dress for spring on any budget
Thursday, 3/22: Kenny Loggins performs | Women and calcium series
Friday, 3/23: Tips for interior designing | Chef Bill Telepan prepares an original recipe
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: makz3d on March 18, 2007, 07:16:23 PM
Thank you so much Puddin.  I went to ES website and saw TARAS not listed but didn't know how to find out more about Monday's episode.
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: gingerman28 on March 18, 2007, 08:58:45 PM
NO GUEST ON TES MONDAY MORNING.

Confirm that Uchenna and Joyce now must finish first next week. 

Pretty much bunched up all during the race: first at the glacier, then on the flight to Maputo, then waiting for Apopo to open. Teams ended up back in Maputo for the Detour with Bill and Joe, Oswald and Danny, and thirdly Charla and Mirna all making the right choice for a change and going straight instead of turning left at the junction.  For once the least physical task was the easiest one to do.  Really not that much money to raise, in fact Ian and Terry made the goal with just two customers.

Congrats to the RFF team for predicting just about everything right (except the last place finish by Uchenna and Joyce, but never mind we were right on the NEL so Ian and Teri still have a chance for being the next to go.)

Should be interesting next week.
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Post by: puddin on March 18, 2007, 10:06:23 PM
APOPO Vapour Detection Technology, Vilaculo

Just outside of Vilanculo you can see one of the most bizarre images in the country - rats in harnesses on leads, searching for mines. The civil war that ravaged Mozambique for 17 years has left a legacy of unexploded landmines. The Belgian research organisation APOPO has been successful in training rats as mine detectors. Contact APOPO if you wish to see their work - minefields are dangerous and not areas where you can just turn up unannounced.

http://www.pilotguides.com/destination_guide/africa/mozambique/essential_mozambique.php

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 19, 2007, 01:58:56 AM
Another episode with a lopsided detour. Those that chose manicures (I assume the pedicure cap came from here, but I don't remember seeing any pedicures done by the racers) had a much easier time of it, and were much closer to the pit stop.

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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 09:57:40 AM
The Roadblock was in Bilene, Inhambane Province.

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 09:59:49 AM
Keep talkin!

How do you know...
Title: Re: EP5: "You Need To Watch Your Jokes, Guy."
Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:01:56 AM
 :lol: No big spoiler ..thank CBS

Episode 1105" -- In "Road Block" Detour, the teams drive to the town of Bilene, where they will find a mock-minefield. One team member works with a specially trained de-mining rat that will help locate the next clue somewhere in the mock minefield in order to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS



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Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 10:11:01 AM
You're awesome Puddin!   :tup:
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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 10:57:58 AM
Now will you marry me :luvu: ?
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Post by: TPorter2 on March 19, 2007, 11:49:36 AM
Is there a gif somewhere of Oswald and Danny chasing Phil at the mat?  That was awesome!
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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 12:54:36 PM
credits to hotchiemothcie @sucks  :lol:


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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
Chateau!! to throw a wrench into the monkey

Picture dates, properties : 2006/11/30/ ( same goes for the Roadblock)

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 19, 2007, 01:12:38 PM
 :groan:

Shoot the monkey.
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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 01:25:07 PM
Does this mean the wedding is off  :lol:?
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Post by: TPorter2 on March 19, 2007, 01:43:55 PM
credits to hotchiemothcie @sucks  :lol:


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Thanks much, puddin!
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Post by: puddin on March 19, 2007, 09:05:52 PM
Chateau!! to throw a wrench into the monkey

Picture dates, properties : 2006/11/30/ ( same goes for the Roadblock)

Update! Dec 1st it is..thanks to Michael

insider clip An Important Day for Oswald & Danny (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=132825&ord=29045.85065204735)
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 19, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
The unofficial beach day was at the Praia do Bilene Hotel in Bilene, which is right next door to Xai Xai (pronounced shy shy)--which explains Charla's taxi with the fern to "shy shy" as seen in the Insider videos. (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=132733&ord=25171.135695178396)

The beach is a perfect match, although this area was severely damaged by the flooding in the Cyclone in March.

Interestingly, puddin's Iris Ministry (http://www.irismin.com/aboutUs.cfm) holds their annual staff meeting here in Bilene--and they were heavily involved in the flood relief.

Serendipity?

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Post by: makz3d on March 20, 2007, 09:53:27 AM
Just for the record the glacier they went to was Martial Glacier.  I read it as Marshall Glacier several places even an article by a Toronto newspaper.

Wanted to be sure the correct name was recorded if someone wanted to check it out.
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Post by: apskip on March 20, 2007, 03:17:39 PM
makzd3, I checked back for the first RFF reference to Glacier Martial. It is post #66 by puddin the evening of March 12. As a Geographer Extraordinaire (if you don't believe it, check out my avatar; would it lie?) and a champion speller(but a lousy data entry person), I can assure you that you are correct.
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Post by: charlierose on March 20, 2007, 04:02:32 PM
Hey you guys I am so confused!!!! :groan:

When did this beach day take place?? After they arrived in Mozambique, before the rat thing. Or during the pit stop.


All this is so confusing, it is driving me nuts. :rotf:
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Post by: apskip on March 20, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
charlierose, I have been looking for a quote of my own stuff, but not easily finding it let me paraphrase it for you. There are two possibilities:

1. the beach pics were taken after landing at Maputo airport on Nov. 30 when they had the entire day to kill

2. the beach pictures were taken on Saturday Dec. 2 somewhere near Maputo when they have another day to kill while waiting for Dec. 3 to fly Johannesburg - Blantyre - DarEsSalaam and then on by plane or boat to Zanzibar.

Take your pick.
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Post by: charlierose on March 20, 2007, 09:11:37 PM
Thanks.