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Title: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 01:54:37 AM
EP4 Discussion

Amazing Race 11, The - "No Babies on the Race!"
Title: EP3:
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:15:56 PM
We have so much good stuff for this episode I will be moving posts from other threads here.

Punta Arenas, Chile  (11/?-11/25 )

RFF Detectives team work   (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174919.html#msg174919)

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - Danielle and Eric, dating teammates from Staten Island, N.Y. and Deerfield Beach, Fla. respectively, pause to read a clue during THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS. (11/25)

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - Rob and Amber (red shirts), a married couple from Pensacola, Fla., and Dustin and Kandice (blue jackets), former beauty queens from Seattle, Wash. and New York, N.Y. respectively, pause to read a clue during THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS (11/25)
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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - Teammates Dustin (front) and Kandice (back), former beauty queens from Seattle, Wash. and New York, N.Y. respectively, race to their next clue during THE AMAZING RACE: (11/25)
Title: EP3:
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:36:43 PM
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Thanks for the 11/25 photos, PUDDIN. It is pretty clear that Rob/Amber and Dustin/Kandice  and Danielle/Eric are not on King George Island! It must be Punta Arenas and in back of Danielle and Eric how about the Strait of Magellan? In conjunction with the timing issues and the statements from van Munster on TV Gudie Channel last night, I have now returned to my original position that there will be no Antarctica on AR11. It apparently was too expensive and pointless except for the opportunity to claim one extra continent visited.

GEORGIAPEACH, I think you are forcing your thinking too narrowly into what you want the answer to be. Look at the accumulated evidence and see what conclusions are likely. I think you will decide that pit stop #3 is in PUNTA ARENAS, probably starting the evening of Nov. 25. The teams then go to USHUAIA and not King George Island or Antarctica. I expect them to leave USHUAIA on the 936pm flight out on Nov. 28.

What are the likely transportation options? I have been scouring the Internet and I have found some more that are interesting. There is a second bus company in Puntas Areans which has connecting service to USHUAIA on the 4 days that were not serviced by Pacheco Bus Company. This service leaves at 830am instead of 730am and probably takes at least the 12 hours of the direct bus. Also, in addition to the LAN flights on Saturday, Monday and Wednesday from PUNTA ARENAS to USHUAIA, I have discovered that DAP "In summer, it flies Twin Otters to Ushuaia Monday, Wednesday, and Friday only (US$100). It also has extensive charter services. " That could be the answer on how teams get there relatively fast since as has been clarified for me Nov. 26 was a Sunday when no regular flights are scheduled and the teams must get to USHUAIA to be sighted that afternoon. What would one see and do in and around PUNTAS ARENAS? The most interesting thing is too far away, the Parque Nacional Torres del Paine 250 miles north. Although Punta Arenas is a mid-sized city at 120,000 inhabitants, it does not have a wealth of top-notch tourist attractions nearby. The best to me is visiting the penguin colony at Magdalena Island 25 km away in the Strait of Magellan. I'll bet that van Munster/Doganieri found something to do in Punta Arenas, maybe an eating challenge. You are right--this does look like Punta Arenas--and here is some park-like place too... (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/punta.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/punta2.jpg) More Punta pics--there is a plaza in town with the statue...could that be where the BQ's are? Slightly pinkish building behind Rob? (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/puntapark.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/puntaplaza4.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/puntaplaza3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/puntaplaza2.jpg) Punta street scenes.. More Punta...there is a cemetary... More Punta NOTICE THE TREES and there is a Jockey Club How long would it take by BOAT from Punta to Ushuaia? Too long, right? Darn, can't even say they crossed the Strait of Magellan... Ah, GEORGIAPEACH, you answered your own questions correctly each time. It's hardly necessary for me to point out: 1. That it would take approximately 1.5 days for a boat travelling at 20 mph to get from PUNTA ARENAS to USHUAIA via the most direct routing. 2. That you go down the Strait of Magellan until you diverge into one of several different channels to continue south, then west, then southeast, then east, then north toward USHUAIA. You never cross the Strait to the other side. My turn for questions...What is this thing (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/00022-6-2007-1.jpg) a stargate? ;D More bent trees? If I'm looking at it wrong, I apologize; but if it's a unique structure it shouldn't be hard to find. *Stargate** :lol: :lol: I love it! MAybe it will transport Rob! I found some trees just like it in the plaza in Punta--but it is on webshots and my computer won't open it--some kind of wbz file? If you can tell me how to open it, I'll bring it over... ?? (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1039290384014644493jgrifO) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/00022-6-2007-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/indexCAKIAVYZ.jpg) That's it!! :yess: It is in the Plaza Munoz Gamera I think... Now can you tell me what I need to be able to download that? I registered and everything... ??? I swiped it with my snagit :js: eta (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlosyanez/173446933/) This picture was taken here between 1:15 and 1:45 pm (assumes November 25th) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/GEofPApark.jpg) This is the camera angle over the steps up to Magellan's statue. Here's the link (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nikonians-images.com/galleries/data/4664/12464plaza-mu_oz-gamero-thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nikonians-images.com/galleries/showgallery.php%3Fcat%3Dall%26stype%3D1%26si%3DFerd&h=60&w=150&sz=4&hl=en&start=35&tbnid=8VgFZOywFWgOxM:&tbnh=38&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dplaza%2Bmunoz%2Bgamero%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN) to the picture It's a wide angle shot so it looks distorted. The walkway that the Barbies are on is directly behind the statue in this shot. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/PAparkcamaraangle.jpg) Since this shot has D&K running alone and we have another shot at the same location with them right next to Romber I think that this is the location of an Intersection where teams have to pair up and work together. The zodiac shot has the Chas paired with Eric and Daniel. Very Nice, Chateau! If that isn't an Intersection--I think that would be a very interesting two teams to join forces--I would have thought they would be in conflict from the first go! :meow: They seem to be sharing a map... So where are they going? They better have a really good task here to make up to me about no Antarctica!! Well, OK. I was kind of doubting P.A., but I'll throw in the towel. Compare the signs to the facade of the Hotel Plaza (http://www.hotelplaza.cl/index-in.html). (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/indexCA5T67OZ.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/indexCA0YMLN6.jpg) THINGS TO DO IN PUNTA ARENAS:So the statue is to Magellan--don't forget to rub his toes! Quote CENTER CITY Around the Plaza de Armas are government buildings; the Club de la Union (Union Club); and mansions with turrets, beautiful roofs, glassed-in sunrooms and well-kept gardens with huge "araucaria" trees (slow-growing native trees revered by the indigenous people of the region). The plaza itself is full of huge, old trees, and in the center is the Monumento a Hernando de Magallanes (Monument to Ferdinand Magellan). Note that the toes of one of the bronze indians is polished and shiny. Local legend states that everyone who touches these toes will return to Punta Arenas someday, making the statue a favorite with tourists and locals alike. The panoramic views are taken from the Mount of the Cross: Quote MOUNT OF THE CROSS There is a wonderful panoramic view from the top of this hill of the entire city, with its red, blue and yellow roofs and streets sloping toward the Strait. On the horizon Tierra del Fuego can be seen, as well as Monte Sarmiento (Sarmiento Mount) and the southern part of the Brunswick Peninsula. The wrecks of old sailing ships that have remained where they ran aground also can be seen in the distance. To see the other side of the city, go to the northern peak of Cerro de la Cruz. Follow Señoret street to Colón avenue, turn left and walk uphill for two blocks on this cobblestoned street dating from colonial times. This peak offers a different view of the area - the city's industrial section, the Barrio Hortícola (Horticulture Neighborhood), the Zona Franca (Duty Free Zone), and a lake used for ice skating to the left. Eight kilometers in the distance are the ski slopes of Cerro Mirador (Lookout Mountain), lines of open clearings slashing through the forested slope of the hill. About the Cemetery-- Quote THE CEMETERY This cemetery is interesting because of the huge mausoleums built years ago by the area's wealthy families. José Menéndez, an important pioneering businessman, has one of the most imposing mausoleums. It is a smaller copy of the Victor Manuel monument in Rome. The cemetery also contains a memorial to the fallen indigenous people of the region. Some forts-- Quote FORT BULNES AND PORT FAMINE Both of these sites are located approximately 60 Kms. south of Punta Arenas. They are interesting primarily for their historical significance. Puerto del Hambre was an early Spanish settlement along the Strait of Magellan, and Fuerte Bulnes established Chilean authority over the region. To reach these sites, travel south on Route 9. The road winds along the edge of the Strait, and along the way can be seen the remains of shipwrecked boats And my favorite--two places to see penguins--one where you walk among them! Quote OTWAY INLET The penguin colony is located 65 kilometers north of Punta Arenas on Seno Otway (Otway Inlet), along the northwest of the Brunswick Peninsula. The Magellanic Penguins return annually to this spot between October and March to lay eggs and raise their young. At the site, you will walk approximately two kilometers to the middle of a natural reserve filled with penguin burrows to see the comic antics of these delightful and defenseless creatures at close range. Quote MAGDALENA ISLAND This island and its neighboring islet Marta is home to tens of thousands of Magellanic Penguins, cormorants, other birds and sea lions. Both islands make up the Monumento Natural Los Pingüinos (The Penguins Natural Monument), located 25 nautical miles north of Punta Arenas. The estimated population of the penguins on these two islands is more than 50,000 penguin pairs. The boat trip to Isla Madgdalena offers contrasting views to the west and east of the Strait. On the west coast can be seen the Tres Puentes area, the village of Río Seco and other small settlements along the shore. Industrial centers and oil production centers can be seen in the distance, such as Bahia Laredo and Cabo Negro. Toward the east, the coast of Tierra del Fuego looms flat and long. In front of Isla Magdalena can be seen the deep Bahía Gente Grande (Large People Bay), a name that was given to this bay by Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa four centuries ago because of the tall stature of the indigenous Ona tribe. GEORGIAPEACH, I am following up on your THINGS TO DO IN PUNTA ARENAS. I previously suggested that Magdalena Island was the only really good thing to do in the vicinity of PUNTA ARENAS. I have discovered another one. The southernmost point of the South American land mass, excluding the islands of Tierra del Fuego, Cape Horn and all of the smaller ones, is at Capo Froward just south of PUNTA ARENAS. It is where the Strait of Magellan makes a turn to the northwest before continuing on into the Pacific Ocean about 200 miles further. Great link for Punta Arenas excursions!! full listing (http://www.aeroplan.cl/chile/publish/printer_525.html) Inludes: Porvenir VS Porvenir - City tour Quote Crossing the Magellan Strait is located Porvenir, the capital of Tierra del Fuego Province. A pioneer city characterized for its livestock development and gold extraction. We will visit its main natural and cultural attractions. All year round Ask for departures in low season Departure from your Hotel at 08:15am Return at 16:00p (On Sundays the stay is longer) Price per person USD 80 Price per person on Sundays USD 90 Includes: Transportation Ferry tickets Box lunch Spanish driver-guide Additional: english guide USD 65 per group. Also: Hiking to San Isidro Light-house Horseback Riding in the Brunswick Peninsula "Adventure to Cape Froward" : Departure from Punta Arenas heading south .At 55 kms. (34 miles) is located Mansa Bay. Here we will board a zodiac vessel which will take us to Cape Froward ; the southern most tip of the American Continent. After 3 hours of sailing we will hike to the top of the hill, where the southern most lookout of the World is waiting for us. Afterwards, we will return to Punta Arenas. Kayaking on the Strait of Magellan "Río Verde" Excursion Río Verde is a place of great natural beauty, located at the shore of the Fitz Roy Channel and the Skyring Sound. We will visit an old cattle, houses, yards, etc Also we can see a variety of birds such as the majestic "Condors" and "Ñandues". "Pali-Aike National Park" Located at 210 kms. from Punta Arenas. Here we can see a special landscape. The area was a volcanic activity zone and still it’s possible to see large spills of basaltic lava. The Fell Cave with 10.000 years old human remains and large herds of guanacos (patagonian llama) and ñandues (lesser rheas) are very attractive as well Mountainbike Circuit (3 hours) "Brunswick Peninsula Fly Fishing - Punta Arenas Cerro Campana Hiking and 4x4 Adventure Fort Bulnes Otway Sound Penguins Colony Magdalena Island Penguins Sailing on the Magellan Strait we reach the Magdalena Island , you will see the largest colony of Magellanic Penguins (about 60.000). This excursion is not made daily and is subject to weather conditions. And lots more! Title: EP3: Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:42:09 PM I thought you all would have figured out what Charla & Mirna are doing as well as Rob by now :lol: It appears to be the same area .. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/00362-12-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/00382-12-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/00352-12-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/00322-12-2007.jpg) I can't tell what Mirna is wearing? at Hacienda Yanahurco this is what she wears.. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/index-2.jpg) Title: EP3: Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:47:39 PM All I noticed so far is that Mirna is making Charla carry the lumber. :lol3: lol ..in Charlas other hand she is carrying more stuff ..and Mirna as well Quote Fishing poles I think so too...but I remember some fishing pole thing in Africa that had a net attached--I think this looks vey similar. Yes to the Cotapaxi. I have no idea what Charla is carrying! :lol:She also has a shiny little can --tools? paint? But I have seen homes just like that in my searches this week--maybe Ushuaia? Punta? Darn--can't remember! Landscape where the flat tire is looks like the flat part of Porvenir... What did we decide about the view of Drew? I have no memory of this on the first race--did they do a jump? I of course remember the famous bungee but without checking the recaps--I'm thinking maybe this is new? Oh boy, I can't wait! I'm thinking maybe PA for the map task (same place as the telephone poles, right?) There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map (http://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/dec02/maps.html). Title: EP3: Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:54:01 PM Damn it :lol:!! Chateau's post was suppose to come after the above ones, not first ! I hate moving posts!! ..off to the drawing board... Title: Re: EP3: ( working title) Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 02:09:21 PM Chateau d If: I know what they are doing! They are setting up Distance Poles on Cerro de la Cruz in Punta Arenas: photo ref (http://www.flickr.com/photos/secho/326624385/) [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: ( working title) Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 02:10:40 PM Chateau d If : And here is the where they do it: [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: ( working title) Post by: Kogs on February 13, 2007, 02:36:57 PM ok I need a break for real life stuff but will try to get most of the pictures over here ..groans :groan: i think puddin needs an assistant :lol: Title: Re: EP3: ( working title) Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 02:39:16 PM Thanks Puddin. You're the best! :hugs: Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 03:01:04 PM We love you puddin! :luvya: And appreciate all you do every single day! Title: Re: EP3: Post by: reality.tv. on February 13, 2007, 04:54:56 PM I was Just wondering since you guys do all this stuff to figure out the time using the sun can you tell who is leading Romber or Charla & Mirna Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 06:02:21 PM OK, I'll try again. Compare the funny-looking roof next to Eric's shoulder with this shot from GE (Panoramio). Cerro de la Cruz: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0014.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/cerrodelacruz.jpg) Heres where the GE pic and the promo pic were taken from: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/GECerrodelacruz.jpg) Fwiw, an interactive PA street map here (http://www.puntaarenas.cl/imap4final/indexplanos.html). The town square ("Sector Central Plaza de Armas") and Cerro de la Cruz are only about 4 blocks apart. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/PA.jpg) I guess Charla has to haul the timber up the hill from Magellan's Statue. This clip was taken between 2:59 and 3:18 pm (assumes November 26th) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/promoCMlumber.jpg) Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 10:51:44 PM This shot on Cerro de la Cruz was taken between 1:37 and 2:01 pm (assumes November 25th) [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 10:54:10 PM Does this make you happy Big Papi ! Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: qing_her on February 14, 2007, 01:22:41 AM It really looks like an Intersection for Romber & BQs :) Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Big Papi on February 14, 2007, 10:29:44 AM Does this make you happy Big Papi ! Absolutely Chateau..thank you. They appear to be looking at a clue, it appears that Eric has a map, and they are focused. :happy: :wohoo: Someone wondered what the green was in an earlier thumbnail. We now know that it is half of Eric's green jogging suit. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0014.jpg) Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Chateau d If on February 14, 2007, 10:32:09 AM And they are ahead of Charla & Mirna and Romber. Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 10:36:21 AM Does this make you happy Big Papi ! Absolutely Chateau..thank you. They appear to be looking at a clue, it appears that Eric has a map, and they are focused. :happy: :wohoo: Someone wondered what the green was in an earlier thumbnail. We now know that it is half of Eric's green jogging suit. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0014.jpg) I didn't know it was Eric's jogging suit :D DUH!! Thanks Papi !! Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Big Papi on February 14, 2007, 10:49:03 AM Quote I didn't know it was Eric's jogging suit DUH!! Thanks Papi !! Yer welcome puddin..but I didn't know either :lol3: until Rose told me he wore it here during Christmas :groan: Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 11:13:54 AM :flowers: Thanks again Papi! I thought it was a bag or something :lol: Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: woden on February 15, 2007, 11:10:00 AM If they do go to Antarctica, between Punta Arenas and Ushuaia is another possibility -- Punta Arenas is another prime spot for flights to the 7th continent. Don't know if the dates can be worked out... Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 07:59:14 PM Before I forget ...what are the gold rings? (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0015.jpg) [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: Slowhatch on February 17, 2007, 08:40:20 PM Sorta looks like a compass, only it's too large. Is Rob holding a ring too? Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 10:24:28 PM Sorta looks like a compass, only it's too large. Is Rob holding a ring too? Maybe TPTB made them some good props Slowhatch? they do look like compass's and Rob is holding a gold something. Maybe it fits in with your map (I'm going to find the post... ) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/promorob.jpg) Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 10:29:54 PM found it I'm thinking maybe PA for the map task (same place as the telephone poles, right?) There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map (http://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/dec02/maps.html). [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 12:23:28 AM title from CBS : "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." strange?? Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: down_with_alli on February 18, 2007, 12:37:00 AM title from CBS : "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." strange?? Disturbing image of Ian saying that haha. Anyone remember his sexy purple body suit? :lol3: Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Slowhatch on February 18, 2007, 01:30:40 AM Chateau has already established the sightline for the BQ photo (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0016.jpg) and the Hotel Plaza faces the west side of the town square, so the BQs are entering the plaza from the Cerro-side. Either Cerro de la Cruz comes before Magellan, or there's still another task we're unaware of (or the cabdriver just happened to drop them off at that point ;D). Dustin is holding something--maybe one of those oldtime maps. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 09:51:13 AM Romber in the background? maybe someone could fiddle with the picture better than I did :D? (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0015.jpg) [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Big Papi on February 18, 2007, 10:18:10 AM ^^^ Amber bringing up the rear...? Rob in the lead.. ??? Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 02:48:47 PM slightly sharper ... I see you cameraman [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 02:55:08 PM Hold the show! :o That sharper image just turned my time estimate upside down. The whole scene is roatated by 90 deg thanks to this corner that I did not see before. I will have to redo the time for Romber. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 03:38:31 PM This shot was taken between 12:44 and1:17 pm (assumes November 25th) Puddin, I need you to correct the earlier post of mine that has a much later time for Romber. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: EP4 Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 03:44:35 PM Done :hearts: eta: I also edited your original (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg175667.html#msg175667) post Chateau. Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 03:54:47 PM Thanks, so the new time tells me that they do the Direction Pole task on Cerro del a Cruz and then go down to Magellan's statue. And it looks like Dustin has injured herself. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2007, 04:12:35 PM Or red paint from painting the directional sign? Let's hope anyway... Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM Good catch you two :jumpy: Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 04:34:29 PM Or red paint from painting the directional sign? Let's hope anyway... looks like red paint to me Title: Re: EP3: ( working title: "I want to go to Paris" ) Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 04:56:53 PM Before I forget ...what are the gold rings? (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0015.jpg) They might be some type of local jewelry that they had to buy in a detour and then return to a local to receive their next clue . Title: EP4; Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 05:01:37 PM There "Beauty Queens" so it could be lip stick :browsie: [attachment deleted by admin] Title: EP4 Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 05:02:49 PM I looked at this picture and I'm not sure if I found somthing or not ...... David & Mary with Romber ? ??? [attachment deleted by admin] Title: EP4 Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 05:08:24 PM " Sorry I'm wearing a bathing suit. It is very weird, I know." Danny maybe? remember his Pink shirt he ruined on the dirk bike :lol3: CLASSIC! Title: EP4 Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 05:17:20 PM I looked at this picture and I'm not sure if I found somthing or not ...... David & Mary with Romber ? ??? I think that is Kandices blue bandana? Title: EP4 Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 05:41:03 PM I looked at this picture and I'm not sure if I found somthing or not ...... David & Mary with Romber ? ??? I think that is Kandices blue bandana? Yeah...... I see that now Title: Re: EP3: "I'm Sorry I'm Wearing A Bathing Suit. It Is Very Weird, I Know." Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 05:55:53 PM I "think" rtv I am not certain. Good try though! Title: EP4 Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 08:03:31 PM I "think" rtv I am not certain. Good try though! Thanks Title: EP4: Post by: Big Papi on February 26, 2007, 10:23:02 AM :hero: <-- puddin..the bestest Moderator EVER.. :tup: :tup: Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: puddin on February 26, 2007, 10:25:37 AM I tried to seperate this from EP3 ..I hope it came out alright :angel: Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: Big Boston Fan on February 28, 2007, 12:51:35 AM This is the episode that Romber got eliminated.. Right? Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: puddin on February 28, 2007, 01:12:50 AM Unless its a double leg or TBC and they go out in the fifth episode? :james: Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: Big Boston Fan on February 28, 2007, 01:31:44 AM Unless its a double leg or TBC and they go out in the fifth episode? :james: Don't get mad.. But are you a TAR Detective? Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: puddin on February 28, 2007, 01:52:26 AM Me? a detective? naw...I'm the just the local Village Idiot :keeta: I don't know how or why they get eliminated all I know is that I hate that I am a Romber fan and their fate is near :holdbreath: :crybabe: Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: Big Boston Fan on February 28, 2007, 02:19:25 AM Me? a detective? naw...I'm the just the local Village Idiot :keeta: I don't know how or why they get eliminated all I know is that I hate that I am a Romber fan and thier fate is near :holdbreath: :crybabe: So you're also a big Romber fan.. But how come you knew they got eliminated this early? I really envy you.. I think you know somethin.. Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2007, 05:42:41 AM Unless its a double leg or TBC and they go out in the fifth episode? :james: Don't get mad.. But are you a TAR Detective? Heeee....puddin is the chief and best detective of us all! :gman: She brings us all the lovely press releases, posts most all the screen captures, searches for hours and hours to track down and identify the sites, updates and organizes all of the spoiler lists, and in her spare time keeps us all in line as the moderator! Doing all that has (recently) turned her into the "Village Idiot" and is why she "lives at RFF"--so we let her get away with her Romber love! Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: gingerman28 on February 28, 2007, 08:36:38 AM Hey, P :hearts:uddin' ain't all that bad. She is great fun to chase around my castle in Germany. As Wenches go, she is the greatest Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: puddin on February 28, 2007, 07:38:15 PM Oh you guys :D :hearts: Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: GnarlyMarly on March 01, 2007, 06:04:18 PM So theres 5 episodes in South America...3 in the same area??? WTF? Why would they do that...I thought 4 was excessive. Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: apskip on March 01, 2007, 09:48:13 PM So theres 5 episodes in South America...3 in the same area??? WTF? Why would they do that...I thought 4 was excessive. Gnarly Marly, you can hardly call San Pedro de Atacama, Puerto Montt, and Punta Arenas the same area. There is 1000 miles between each pair and 2000 between San Pedro de Atacama and Punta Arenas. The only geographically close legs will be Punta Arenas to Ushuaia and that will still require 12 hours by ferry and bus or car to get there since flying is out due to the day of the week. Title: Re: EP4:... Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2007, 10:06:16 PM So theres 5 episodes in South America...3 in the same area??? WTF? Why would they do that...I thought 4 was excessive. I could have forgiven them 5 South American legs if they had managed to get to Antarctica... but even though this next week looks fabulous--I would still have rather had another African or Asian location just for the variety and to shake up the language skills required... But apskip has the geography down :tup:--and the locations within SA have been/will be pretty varied in terms of conditions. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2007, 10:58:25 PM Hey--just noticed! When did we get a title? :lol: I think I liked Chateau's better! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: GnarlyMarly on March 01, 2007, 11:45:14 PM I'm not talking about Atacama... I'm saying this upcoming episode 3 which is in Southern Chile no? Same with episode 4? and episode 5 is supposed to be in Ushaiua (sp?) Argentina which is still geographically pretty close to where episode 4 should be. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: mswood on March 02, 2007, 01:07:33 AM Hey--just noticed! When did we get a title? :lol: I think I liked Chateau's better! I liked Chateau's title better. :lol3: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 02, 2007, 07:53:04 AM I'm not talking about Atacama... I'm saying this upcoming episode 3 which is in Southern Chile no? Same with episode 4? and episode 5 is supposed to be in Ushaiua (sp?) Argentina which is still geographically pretty close to where episode 4 should be. There's an old axiom that goes: Rule #1 the Boss is always right. Rule #2 When the Boss is wrong, consult Rule #1. Puerto Montt is in the southern half of Chile; However, since Chile is over 3000 miles long, it is still 1000 miles from Punta Arenas. Read what I said about the proximity of Punta Arenas and Ushuaia. Despite being about 160 miles apart as the crow flies, there are no crows flying when needed for transportation so I believe teams have to go the long way around the center of Tierra Del Fuego Island. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Texan on March 02, 2007, 09:41:24 AM Puddin... you know I am a ROMBER fan too...sorry not able to post more lately to help you support them! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 02, 2007, 10:25:50 AM Puddin... you know I am a ROMBER fan too...sorry not able to post more lately to help you support them! It's Ok Wendy..I'll take one for the team :lol:!! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Big Papi on March 02, 2007, 10:52:12 AM Puddin... you know I am a ROMBER fan too...sorry not able to post more lately to help you support them! It's Ok Wendy..I'll take one for the team :lol:!! Well I'm avidly rooting for them too....to come in a very distant second :kissy: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 02, 2007, 03:46:18 PM Puddin... you know I am a ROMBER fan too...sorry not able to post more lately to help you support them! It's Ok Wendy..I'll take one for the team :lol:!! Well I'm avidly rooting for them too....to come in a very distant second :kissy: uh huh :lol: .. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: TPorter2 on March 03, 2007, 09:51:11 PM I'm avidly rooting for Romber to...nah, I can't do it. I can't stand them. But him more than her. Do we have a promo vid for this episode? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:11:45 PM Phil:Next week on the amazing Race, Rob and Amber meet their match in Charla & Mirna. Charla: TAXI! I called that taxi Mirna: amigo amigo Rob: your crazy Charla to Amber: what happened? why did you lie? Phil: and you won't want to miss the ending that will have everyone talking :'( Rob: Come ON!! 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Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 08:14:46 PM http://www.gofish.com:80/player.gfp?gfid=30-1085377 Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Rob on March 04, 2007, 08:15:46 PM EP4 Preview PS, Mike is fast at finding my video!! LOL Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 08:16:05 PM Ushuaia before PA? Interesting. ??? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 08:18:05 PM haha , , sorry rob, i wasnt trying to make it look like mine or anything!! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2007, 08:19:06 PM This is the dock where they get the zodiacs [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 08:19:45 PM so is next week to be continued or a NEL? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Rob on March 04, 2007, 08:20:37 PM No problem mike!! I am just shocked at how fast things happen on GoFish compared to YouTube!!! I was complimenting you!! THANKS Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:23:35 PM Ushuaia before PA? Interesting. ??? Could it be PA with the Pitstop in Ushuaia ? The photo dates have been 100% correct so far as in 11/25 PA. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 08:25:46 PM Possibly. This looks like the pit stop, somewhere in Lapataia. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 08:26:32 PM I doubt its a TBC leg because the "ending we wont want to miss" thing probably is talking about Rob and Amber getting eliminated. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:27:51 PM I can vouch that EP2 pitstop was Thanksgiving (11/23) making EP3 (11/24) and why would the Guidos be booking flights to South Africa in Ushuaia on the 28th? and teams spotted in Tierra del Fuego on the 26th? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 08:28:46 PM Slowhatch--why do you think Ushuaia came first?? I definitely saw an Argentina flag waving there at the end, so I was just glad to see we get Puntas and Ushuaia--did I miss something? I would think this has to be some kind of NEL/TBC/"marked for elimination" or best of all--(close your eyes puddin) Romber get yielded! Boy--not too many clues in that promo, are there? TPTB are getting stingy! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:29:47 PM I doubt its a TBC leg because the "ending we wont want to miss" thing probably is talking about Rob and Amber getting eliminated. I know..*pouts*! The curse of Shmirna strikes again :meow:! Must be what Kevin & Drew mentioned on the Finish-Line. fwiw according to kevin there is going to be a bigger blow up by charla and mirna in a couple weeks. i wonder if it leads to a certain teams elimination :lol: :lol: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:32:34 PM Slowhatch--why do you think Ushuaia came first?? I definitely saw an Argentina flag waving there at the end, so I was just glad to see we get Puntas and Ushuaia--did I miss something? I would think this has to be some kind of NEL/TBC/"marked for elimination" or best of all--(close your eyes puddin) Romber get yielded! Boy--not too many clues in that promo, are there? TPTB are getting stingy! Hell they showed us the Pitstop and that is rare :jam: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Tritium on March 04, 2007, 08:33:23 PM I guess it will be a tight race to the roadblock or detour. Then Charla/Mirna yields Romber. :'( Romber have been rocking the competition so far. It will be sad to see them go. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 08:40:26 PM Lots of new folks hanging out tonight-- :welcome2: eveybody! Please feel free to join in the fun! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:43:55 PM test Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Sasuke11 on March 04, 2007, 08:44:15 PM my guess is there is a fast forward in this leg, and romber lose out running to it or something and then when they finally catch up to the other teams its at an interesection, and then romber is last to the pit stop :'( Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 08:48:40 PM Wow puddin! Cool photo thingy! But ummm....HOW do we make it stop?? :lol: :rotf: :lol: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:49:51 PM The detour or maybe intersection is in Puerto Arenas, Chile ..see the pictures on page on of this thread. The Zodiac trip at Tierra del Fuego must be to get a clue and the Roadblock is unknown and might be in Ushuaia ,Argentina Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: asamber1 on March 04, 2007, 08:51:42 PM I am a Romber fan but looking on the bright side, at least someone new can come in first place. They broke records and were only on the race for 4 legs, came in first already 3 times, most teams dont even come in fist one time. So looking at it, they may come in 8th but prize wise what do they come in third? forth?. Now they just get a month vaca in Aculpolco! I'm sure they will enjoy that much more than suffering through Africa for at least two legs. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 08:51:46 PM Wow puddin! Cool photo thingy! But ummm....HOW do we make it stop?? :lol: :rotf: :lol: LOL! I don't know everything :lol: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 08:51:53 PM is this the leg with the supposed romber, dustin/kandice intersection? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 08:55:55 PM Preview dock and the zodiac dock... Park @ Tierro del Fuego No one happened to see Antarctica go sailing by, did they? :'( [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 09:09:09 PM Most of the caps match either Ushuaia airport (see here (http://www.keeping-up.co.uk/Travel/Antarctic/Antarctic00591r.jpg) and here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55822983@N00/245978218/)) or Lapataia. If the editing is accurate (Charla accuses Amber), then the racers proceed quickly--if not directly--to the park. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: purple-orchids on March 04, 2007, 09:09:34 PM hi... i'm new in here.. first time posting.. reading through the various threads.. seems like Romber is getting eliminated next week.. kinda devastated to know that.. but perhaps i'm trying to believe they are going to be still on the race... how sure is the speculation that romber will be eliminated??? :groan: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: gingerman28 on March 04, 2007, 09:14:24 PM It is quickly turning out that Charla and Mirna are the villians of TARAS! They have now and will continue next week to irrate everyone in the race and everyone watching. It is going to be a reall fall for Romber - three time winners, and then kapunki they get yielded, or intersected, or just plain screwed - and get the old Philiminated treatment! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 09:16:19 PM Does this look like we'll be camping out next week? Our poor guys are probably still dreaming about that hot shower! :shower: Are you definitely saying Ushuaia first, Slowhatch? How can that be? We know they are in Puntas on the 25th for sure, don't we? Welcome purple-orchids! We can never be sure--but the "bootlist" is 100% accurate so far! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 09:23:34 PM Quote Are you definitely saying Ushuaia first, Slowhatch? Nope. PA and Ushuaia are a lot to put in one episode, but Puddin's right it's definitely doable. When the web promo arrives we might know for sure. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 09:36:48 PM Quote Are you definitely saying Ushuaia first, Slowhatch? Nope. PA and Ushuaia are a lot to put in one episode, but Puddin's right it's definitely doable. When the web promo arrives we might know for sure. Okay--whew! They all have to go rub Magellan's toe in the Plaza, you know! And remember they are there until 11/28--that's a lot of time. I still think we are looking at some kind of continued episode, and Romber will survive for one more week. Now if we're getting the zodiacs already next week (that was on 11/26)---then there is still something special that we don't know about for those two other days--maybe just enough time to squeeze in Antarctica! :badhorse: Either that or they have a 60 hour pitstop... :lol: And now I'm really thinking chartered flight from Puntas to Ushuaia--time seems to be moving PDQ! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 10:00:22 PM Is this really a Pitstop--I'm not seeing a mat? Can anyone be sure that is Phil? Who can do a high-res?? Because if that is a Pitstop--complete with a Greeter--then it probably isn't a TBC--or so they are saying at Sucks... [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Kogs on March 04, 2007, 10:01:28 PM Quote Are you definitely saying Ushuaia first, Slowhatch? Nope. PA and Ushuaia are a lot to put in one episode, but Puddin's right it's definitely doable. When the web promo arrives we might know for sure. Okay--whew! They all have to go rub Magellan's toe in the Plaza, you know! And remember they are there until 11/28--that's a lot of time. I still think we are looking at some kind of continued episode, and Romber will survive for one more week. Now if we're getting the zodiacs already next week (that was on 11/26)---then there is still something special that we don't know about for those two other days--maybe just enough time to squeeze in Antarctica! :badhorse: Either that or they have a 60 hour pitstop... :lol: And now I'm really thinking chartered flight from Puntas to Ushuaia--time seems to be moving PDQ! you can see the greeter in the cap on the mat by phil, and they would not have a greeter if it is a tbc. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 10:02:34 PM so if anything it's a NEL...but I hope it isn't :lol: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Kogs on March 04, 2007, 10:09:51 PM and i bet the tbc is april1 because of the 2 hour episode if there is one Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 10:20:44 PM and i bet the tbc is april1 because of the 2 hour episode if there is one True that Kogs. Peach heres my photobucket (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/) :lol: , sorry about that. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 04, 2007, 10:21:38 PM The surprise promised in the episode 4 preview is almost certainly the elimination of Rob and Amber. Nothing else would be suitably monumental and it does fit the boot list perfectly. Episode 4 is highly probable to be elimination based on everything we know. The interesting question that remains open is how the teams get from Punta Arenas to Tierra del Fuego National Park near Ushuaia. there a re few options and they have been reviews previously in the SPOILER thread. Summarizing, no scheduled flights exist on Sunday 11/26, by water is too slow, and that leaves ferry to Porvenir and then either bus or U-drove car from there to the park, an 8 to 9 hour drive. Charter flight is also a possibility, as indicated by GEORGIA PEACH below before I added this sentence. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 10:31:52 PM this goes here.... Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174561.html#msg174561) posts a travel pod blog (http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/guest.pl?tweb_tripID=southern_living&tweb_UID=pattyv&tweb_entryID=1164755340&tweb_guest_password=&tweb_PID=tpod): with pictures of Eric & Danelle. Chateau d if (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174622.html#msg174622) also spots Danny & Oswald in the Zodiac boat with eric & Danielle. **Ushuaia, Argentina posted on Monday, Nov 27, 2006 saw the Racers on 11/25 or 26 ?? Alter a 7 hour flight with a terrible hangover from Thanksgiving, we arrived in Ushuaia, the southern most city in the World!!!! It really feels like it…the sun rises around 4:30 AM and does not set until 10:30 PM. We went on an excursion that took us through the Beagle Channel where we stopped at several islands to see the sea lions, birds, and some famous lighthouse. The following day Dave and I headed out to the Tierra del Fuego Nacional Park. We did a few small treks and at the southern most point of the park where Route 3 ends, we ran into contestants from the AMAZING RACE!!! (that might be the most exciting thing we saw in Ushuaia) Dave and I tried to run and get in on the action but we were ignored. PS, it is soooo staged. I don't have many pics because I need my battery to last longer click on the thumbnails: (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 10:37:20 PM I cant slow the Cha's down but you get the point [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Tritium on March 04, 2007, 10:39:46 PM I have a gut feeling that the episode title is attributed to Romber, in response to Charla/Mirna for crying out loud. (:;) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2007, 10:59:43 PM The surprise promised in the episode 4 preview is almost certainly the elimination of Rob and Amber. Nothing else would be suitably monumental and it does fit the boot list perfectly. Episode 4 is highly probable to be elimination based on everything we know. The interesting question that remains open is how the teams get from Punta Arenas to Tierra del Fuego National Park near Ushuaia. there a re few options and they have been reviews previously in the SPOILER thread. Summarizing, no scheduled flights exist on Sunday 11/26, by water is too slow, and that leaves ferry to Porvenir and then either bus or U-drove car from there to the park, an 8 to 9 hour drive. Or a chartered flight? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 11:01:08 PM CBS web clues are up.. Confirms an intersection! I bet the last one is pertaining to Rob and Amber and Dustin and Kandice. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 11:03:22 PM :-\ Weblues: **Confusion at the detour puts one team's race chances in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Will they recover in time to stay in contention? **Lies and deceit catch up with one team at the End of the World. Is this the end of the race for them? **After reluctantly agreeing to work together with another team, treachery ensues and one team makes a critical error. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 11:08:24 PM The flag cap turns out to be another view of the pit stop: you can see Phil and Yellowjacket standing next to the sign. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 11:16:23 PM Slowhatch could you get us another shot of the zoom in to Phil at the pitstop? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 11:22:24 PM It's a little fuzzy but you can definitely see Phil. There's a small plaque next to the mat: maybe it's a "mirador" or viewpoint in the park. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: hakushu8 on March 04, 2007, 11:23:56 PM Eh... I didn't read the last few pages before I posted. :groan: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Boingo on March 04, 2007, 11:25:41 PM fwiw [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2007, 11:26:11 PM This is part of a building. Not a tent! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 11:29:47 PM The new airport at Ushuaia has the same sort of wood/masonry design. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2007, 11:31:37 PM In an un-interlaced version of this frame I can read this plate. It says Arentina in the white part at the top. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 11:45:30 PM freebie!! False alarm! they snuck a TAR7 clip in there (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=131275&ord=67784.76657542118) :-[ [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 04, 2007, 11:47:06 PM i thought that clip was talking about TAR11 but then realized it was from TAR7 :( Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 04, 2007, 11:51:51 PM There are some steps leading down from some kind of tower (maybe Lapataia, but not necessarily); you can see Uchenna holding a red card running down what looks like the same steps. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 04, 2007, 11:56:15 PM Thanks for the pictures Slowhatch, Boingo & Chateau :luvya: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: makz3d on March 04, 2007, 11:58:46 PM freebie!! False alarm! they snuck a TAR7 clip in there (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=131275&ord=67784.76657542118) :-[ Puddin, Did you capture that? I saw it and thought it had to do with when they were one before and didn't watch it. It's not on now and I went back to my History to try and find it and couldn't. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 12:39:20 AM freebie!! False alarm! they snuck a TAR7 clip in there (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=131275&ord=67784.76657542118) :-[ Puddin, Did you capture that? I saw it and thought it had to do with when they were one before and didn't watch it. It's not on now and I went back to my History to try and find it and couldn't. Stupid webmonkeys had me excited for nothing but still it was fun to watch. lake or bay Lapataia looks like a good call Slowhatch :tup: ..what are those metal towers? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2007, 12:42:16 AM Thanks for the pictures Slowhatch, Boingo & Chateau :luvya: Thanks from me too! My eyes can't take the little bitty ones! :reading: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: hakushu8 on March 05, 2007, 08:16:42 AM There are some steps leading down from some kind of tower (maybe Lapataia, but not necessarily); you can see Uchenna holding a red card running down what looks like the same steps. A "Find the Argentine Flag" roadblock, perhaps? It might be like the TAR 5 - 12 task (Philippines), or the TAR 6 - 11 roadblock (Sri Lanka). Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: gingerman28 on March 05, 2007, 09:07:27 AM Interesting editing by TPTB to try to give the impression that we have seven teams racing to the pit stop.BUT the scenes of Bill and Joe, and Uchenna and Joyce are from a different location. Also noted that Uchenna seems to be carrying a red DETOUR clue . So these two scenes seem to be from the DETOUR and NOT the pit stop. We have four teams seeming to be from the final race to the matt: Oswald and Danny, Eric and Dee, The BQ's, Charla and Mirna. Rob and Amber seem to be taking a "short cut" somewhere. Missing are any scenes of Ian and Teri. Would we have a fast forward in the same ep as an Intersection? Perhaps not since this would leave seven teams racing and an intersection only works with an even number of teams; and if we have a FF taken then we are left with seven teams . And the blurb from CBS seems to say that we do have an Intersection at work in ep 4. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: gingerman28 on March 05, 2007, 09:10:55 AM :-\ Weblues: **Confusion at the detour puts one team's race chances in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Will they recover in time to stay in contention? **Lies and deceit catch up with one team at the End of the World. Is this the end of the race for them? **After reluctantly agreeing to work together with another team, treachery ensues and one team makes a critical error. This looks like CBS is saying that three bad things happen to our leading team. Sure puts the knife into Romber not once but thrice!!! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: woden on March 05, 2007, 09:12:26 AM Didn't they have a FF/Intersection in the same ep last year? The cow lips? The teams that were working together got the fast forward together. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: gingerman28 on March 05, 2007, 09:29:02 AM Didn't they have a FF/Intersection in the same ep last year? The cow lips? The teams that were working together got the fast forward together. You're memory is better than mine (guess I'll need that Geritol afterall) James and Tyler and Rob and Kimberly paired up at the intersection and took the Fast Forward. BUT the Beauty Queens did all the task and still beat them to the Pit Stop. James/Thyler came in second and Rob/Kimberly in third. SO the FF doesn't always guarantee a win. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: woden on March 05, 2007, 09:33:37 AM Yeah, that was a weird FF -- didn't seem to give an advantage at all. Maybe by combining a FF/Intersection with more teams still in the race, it would serve a better purpose. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 05, 2007, 09:58:22 AM The new preview is up. It was a compass they were holding in PA, and they were were building mileage posts, just like Chateau wrote. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 10:02:39 AM Wow that was fast Slowhatch :yess: link (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638) and WTG on the mileage posts Chateau!! Nice clear video for once!! VO: The amazing race is about forging friendships Mirna: Why did you lie? Amber: Why did I lie to who? Rob: I'm rubbing off on her. lol VO: closely following the clues Danielle: we're going to Australia Eric: not Australia.. Danielle: ..I mean Argentina VO: and keeping cool under pressure Charla: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO!? Mirna: stay awake.. VO: but this Sunday, the race is so close Bill or Joe: don't cry Mirna: JUST RUN.. VO: You've got to see how this episode ends Rob: I'm not even close to my prime.. VO: new Amazing Race All-Stars... 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Post by: apskip on March 05, 2007, 10:06:14 AM I want to toss in what I believe we know about the departure on Episode 5 and see what implications it has for the episode 4 pit stop. First, I expect the departure on ep 5 for the leading teams to be the morning of Nov. 28 so that they can reach Ushuaia airport by 930am for the 1033am flight to Buenos Aires (one of two a day). I am guessing that all teams except the Guidos get this flight. The Guidos get one 12 hours later, but it doesn't make any difference since all will be bunched by Sao Paulo airport for the once a day transatlantic flight to Johannesburg. Now, that means to me that the Guidos finish episode 4 after 8pm on Dec. 26 and there is a 36 hour extended rest pitstop. All other teams except the eliminated one will be finishing by 8pm. It is over an hour from Tierra del Fuego National Park to Ushuaia airport and I consider it very likely that the teams will stay and recuperate in the National Park. That would also minimize the probability of being sighted in Ushuaia, which only happened to the Guidos running into French tourists at the travel agency and by those responsible for the blog most of us have seen. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" 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Post by: hakushu8 on March 05, 2007, 10:16:08 AM Joe looks funny. :rotf: And it looks like they're waiting for a ferry on that dock, based on the sign behind Rob... Isla Redonda. From this site (http://www.moon.com/planner/argentina/mustsee/pn_tierra_fuego.html): Quote From Bahía Ensenada, near the southeastern edge of the park, there are boat excursions to Isla Redonda (US$14 pp) from 10 a.m.–5:30 p.m.

Green house (http://www.polarphilately.com/ppo/islaredonda1.jpg) behind last picture with Joe and Bill is in front of the southernmost post office on Earth, on the Beagle Channel.
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Post by: serendipity on March 05, 2007, 11:27:58 AM
From the picture of Dustin at the dock, it seems that she is picking a number. Since she takes the last number on the first row, she is probably in 4th place at that time.
And the Guidos may be in 3rd place since they and the BQs are running to the dock at the same time?
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Post by: hakushu8 on March 05, 2007, 12:08:26 PM
With this preview (thanks puddin!), I'm guessing that there might be no Intersection. Two Detour tasks are shown: one is making a mileage post that points to places around the world and the teams should be right in whether the places are to the east or west of where they were. The other detour is with a compass, could be like the TAR 7 London episode detour (Sherlock scavenger hunt). And just a guess on the name of the Detour (but maybe Intersection) choices: East-West or North-South.  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
With this preview (thanks puddin!), I'm guessing that there might be no Intersection. Two Detour tasks are shown: one is making a mileage post that points to places around the world and the teams should be right in whether the places are to the east or west of where they were. The other detour is with a compass, could be like the TAR 7 London episode detour (Sherlock scavenger hunt). And just a guess on the name of the Detour (but maybe Intersection) choices: East-West or North-South.  :lol:
hakushu, read page one of this thread..it looks like the mileage posts and compass's are connected in some way and I'm not so sure there is an intersection just yet either.

Weblues:

**Confusion at the detour puts one team's race chances in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Will they recover in time to stay in contention?

**Lies and deceit catch up with one team at the End of the World. Is this the end of the race for them?

**After reluctantly agreeing to work together with another team, treachery ensues and one team makes a critical error.
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Post by: apskip on March 05, 2007, 02:08:09 PM
Here are some pictures from within Tierra del Fuego National Park, specifically of Bahia Lapataia and Isla Redonda:

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Post by: gingerman28 on March 05, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
With this preview (thanks puddin!), I'm guessing that there might be no Intersection. Two Detour tasks are shown: one is making a mileage post that points to places around the world and the teams should be right in whether the places are to the east or west of where they were. The other detour is with a compass, could be like the TAR 7 London episode detour (Sherlock scavenger hunt). And just a guess on the name of the Detour (but maybe Intersection) choices: East-West or North-South.  :lol:

Could it be that the compass is used to correctly point the signs in the correct direction.  I.E. New York ENE,etc.  And we have seen two teams together with the compass: Romber and the BQ's I think, so that could be the intersection.
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Post by: michael on March 05, 2007, 02:38:16 PM
what i forgot is that an intersection IS completing a detour or fastforward with another team...I kept thinking it was a task all on its own. I think after the webclues we can pretty much confirm the intersection.
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Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
press release:

TEAMS TRAVEL TO THE END OF WORLD IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR NEXT CLUE, WHILE ROB AND AMBER ATTEMPT THEIR FOURTH FIRST PLACE FINISH, ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS" SUNDAY, MARCH 11, 8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT
"No Babies On The Race!" - - Confusion at the Detour puts one Team in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them, on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, Sunday, March 11 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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Post by: charlierose on March 05, 2007, 04:05:38 PM
The look on their faces tell all. THey know they are eliminated this leg of the race. :groan: :groan:

It is a shame to see them go. The have had their things, but they are good racers. It is sad to see them go. Would have loved to see the in the final 3.
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Post by: michael on March 05, 2007, 04:15:53 PM
aww, i was hoping it would be a really close race to the finish :(

Can anybody use that photo of Rob and Amber and the photos of the BQs and Charla and Mirna going to the pit stop to determine the time?
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Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 05:00:05 PM

more clues
**The race gets tense as lies and treachery take a foothold in a temporary alliance and critical mistakes are made.

**Another team reaches meltdown point when one member feels put upon by another,

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Post by: red_sox on March 05, 2007, 05:22:49 PM
What I get from the clues:

**Charla and Mirna, and Rob and Amber, have to work together, possibly at an intersection, and are at the back of the pack.
**It comes down to R/A and C/M with the elimination, but Rombre stuffs up at the detour and Schmirna overtakes them  :hearts:
**Romber is eliminateddd :groan:

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Post by: asamber1 on March 05, 2007, 05:30:49 PM
What I get from the clues:

**Charla and Mirna, and Rob and Amber, have to work together, possibly at an intersection, and are at the back of the pack.
**It comes down to R/A and C/M with the elimination, but Rombre stuffs up at the detour and Schmirna overtakes them  :hearts:
**Romber is eliminateddd :groan:

Wow this is even worse than Lyn and Karlyn beating the Beauty Queens.  The Least deserving team taking out the most deserving team!

Question:  How is it that when teams like Danielle and Dani, and Lyn and Karlyn place bad they bad terrible racers ect ect but when Chlara and Mirna just do terrible they are still seen as good racers.  Mind you after the first three legs the Double Dees actually place better than CM [9, 8, 6], and Lyn and Karlyn have the same average as CM [9, 9, 6].  At least LK, and DD for the first three legs got along with most of the other teams, Chalra and Mirna get along with, noone?  Kind of hypocritical by some of you viewers.
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Post by: michael on March 05, 2007, 05:32:09 PM
I don't see R/A working with C/M at an intersection, because then what would the pictures of them working with D/K be from?

Hmm..I can see D/K being the team that has a meltdown due to one member putting the other down. I hope it's not them though!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 05, 2007, 06:22:48 PM Well I'm a romber fan too [well no duh], and of course I'm devastated to see them go next week, but my guess is that they all catch up [at the dock] & Romber just falls behind. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 06:34:11 PM I don't see R/A working with C/M at an intersection, because then what would the pictures of them working with D/K be from? Hmm..I can see D/K being the team that has a meltdown due to one member putting the other down. I hope it's not them though! I think its Bill that puts Joe down :nods: and i don't think theres an intersection ..I just think Shmirna & Romber get stuck or lost and get forced to work together to get out of the situation and Shmirna beats them in a race to the pitstop somehow after Romber make a critical mistake. Also I think its Bill for the title to Joe. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 05, 2007, 06:47:57 PM oh what makes you say that Puddin? Hmm..is there a preview that I missed or are you just speculating? Aww.. I was looking forward to an intersection...the previews really made it look like there was one, and then the web clues made me think there was one even more! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 07:48:37 PM OK, I have some time to start piecing this together and will do it here and there so its in the works right now .. And you all would be amazed to know most of this info came from 3 tiny fuzzy pictures :jam: "No Babies on the Race!" Clues: **Another team reaches meltdown point when one member feels put upon by another. Teams arrive at Playa Petrohué: 1) Rob/Amber 2) Uchenna/Joyce 3) Eric/Danielle 4) Dustin/Kandice 5) Teri/Ian 6) Danny/Oswald 7) Charla/Mirna 8.) Joe/Bill Detour Clues: **Confusion at the detour puts one team's race chances in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Will they recover in time to stay in contention? **Confusion at the detour puts one team in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Distance Poles Chateau d if :They are setting up Distance Poles on Cerro de la Cruz in Punta Arenas (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00073-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0019.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0030.jpg) Romber (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00093-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00113-5-2007.jpg) Uchenna/ Joyce Chateau d if: I guess Charla has to haul the timber up the hill from Magellan's Statue. This clip was taken between 2:59 and 3:18 pm (assumes November 26th) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_00322-12-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_00352-12-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00173-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00183-5-2007.jpg) Charla/Mirna compass's/maps thanks to Slowhatch (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00193-5-2007.jpg) georgiapeach: Magellan's statue/ Plaza Munoz Gamera (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_indexCAKIAVYZ.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0015.jpg) Romber & the BQ's with compass's & map Chateau d if : This picture was taken here between 1:15 and 1:45 pm (assumes November 25th) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0016.jpg) Slowhatch: There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map. Chateau d if : This shot was taken between 12:44 and1:17 pm (assumes November 25th) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_promorob.jpg) Slowhatch: this shot from GE (Panoramio), Cerro de la Cruz. Chateau d if: This shot on Cerro de la Cruz was taken between 1:37 and 2:01 pm (assumes November 25th) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0014.jpg) Dani/Eric with a map (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00293-5-2007.jpg) Teri/Ian with a map (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00313-5-2007.jpg) Cha's with a map (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0022.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0026.jpg) Eric/Dee with the Cha's Tierra del Fuego Nacional Park- Ushuaia, Argentina ( not sure what the task is yet? maybe to get a clue to the roadblock?) Clues: **Teams travel to the End of the World in order to recieve their next clue. ---While Amber and Rob attempt their fourth first place finish. **Lies and deceit catch up with one team at the End of the World. Is this the end of the race for them? Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174561.html#msg174561) posts a travel pod blog (http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/guest.pl?tweb_tripID=southern_living&tweb_UID=pattyv&tweb_entryID=1164755340&tweb_guest_password=&tweb_PID=tpod): with pictures of Eric & Danelle. Chateau d if (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174622.html#msg174622) also spots Danny & Oswald in the Zodiac boat with Eric & Danielle. Tierra del Fuego Nacional Park. We did a few small treks and at the southern most point of the park where Route 3 ends, we ran into contestants from the AMAZING RACE!!! (that might be the most exciting thing we saw in Ushuaia) Dave and I tried to run and get in on the action but we were ignored. PS, it is soooo staged. I don't have many pics because I need my battery to last longer click on the thumbnails: This picture was taken between 11:40 am and 12:12 pm (assumes November 26th) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) Eric/Dee with the Cha's at the docks Bahia Lapataia , found by Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174572.html#msg174572) sharing a ride in a Zodiac. (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0081.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0084.jpg) Romber steal's Shmirna's taxi (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0087.jpg)Shmirna calls Amber a liar at the docks Bahia Lapataia , found by Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174572.html#msg174572) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0088.jpg) Romber/Shmirna/Uchenna & Joyce (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00373-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00383-5-2007.jpg) Romber and U/J share their ride in the Zodiac. (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00343-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00353-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00253-5-2007.jpg)Guidos (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00203-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00213-5-2007.jpg) BQ's and the Guido's (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00243-5-2007.jpg) BQ's grabbing a number at the Bahia Lapataia docks. Roadblock/ Going Posta lIsla Redonda some teams running with a red clue in hand (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00023-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0098.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0040.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0036.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0033.jpg)Shmirna (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0096.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0037.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0035.jpg)Romber (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0097.jpg) Ucheena & Joyce (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0095.jpg) BQ's (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0093.jpg) Eric/Dee (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0091.jpg) the Cha's (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0092.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_08Mar0001.jpg) Guido's pitstop/Isla Redonda Clue: **The race gets tense as lies and treachery take a foothold in a temporary alliance and critical mistakes are made. **After reluctantly agreeing to work together with another team, treachery ensues and one team makes a critical error. Phil: and you won't want to miss the ending that will have everyone talking (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_pitstopview.jpg) another view of the Pitstop on Isal Redonda (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0094.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0090.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_indexCA7D65EO.jpg) misc.. airport shots (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00003-5-2007.jpg) The Cha's & U/J (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00143-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0079.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_index.jpg)Slowhatch: The new airport at Ushuaia has the same sort of wood/masonry design. cars and taxi's (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00013-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00133-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0081.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0084.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00163-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00153-5-2007.jpg) ( BQ'S) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: red_sox on March 05, 2007, 09:24:20 PM Actually.. being passed by a long-standing rivalry could infact mean that.. Uchenna and Joyce pass Rob and Amber in the detour, leading to Rombers elimination.. ouch. :rotf: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: mswood on March 05, 2007, 09:29:25 PM What I get from the clues: **Charla and Mirna, and Rob and Amber, have to work together, possibly at an intersection, and are at the back of the pack. **It comes down to R/A and C/M with the elimination, but Rombre stuffs up at the detour and Schmirna overtakes them :hearts: **Romber is eliminateddd :groan: Wow this is even worse than Lyn and Karlyn beating the Beauty Queens. The Least deserving team taking out the most deserving team! Question: How is it that when teams like Danielle and Dani, and Lyn and Karlyn place bad they bad terrible racers ect ect but when Chlara and Mirna just do terrible they are still seen as good racers. Mind you after the first three legs the Double Dees actually place better than CM [9, 8, 6], and Lyn and Karlyn have the same average as CM [9, 9, 6]. At least LK, and DD for the first three legs got along with most of the other teams, Chalra and Mirna get along with, noone? Kind of hypocritical by some of you viewers. Well many people are judging these teams not strickly on just this season but on the season they previously appeared. And in season 5 Charla & Mirna had a good racing average, by this point and to leg four they and Brandon & Nicole had the best average. When they were eliminated they still had one of the better averages of their season. And some people like their confrontationly campy over the top behavior (Personally I hate it). And while I also judge Rob & Amber from season 7 (and the seasons of surivior and the wedding, ect, ect). If it came to a choice between them and Charla & Mirna I would Rather have Rob & Amber stay in the race. Unforunately that is not what happens. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: mswood on March 05, 2007, 09:30:48 PM Actually.. being passed by a long-standing rivalry could infact mean that.. Uchenna and Joyce pass Rob and Amber in the detour, leading to Rombers elimination.. ouch. :rotf: Now that would be funny.... But I would also like to see Eric & Danielle in a race with them after Rob's comments that him and Amber could beat them in a race. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: mswood on March 05, 2007, 09:32:26 PM Puddin Do you think that shot of Rob & Amber walking is them going to the Pit Stop? I just can't see them walking even if they thought they were last. Personally I think it might be after they have already been eliminated. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Big Papi on March 05, 2007, 09:47:15 PM Actually.. being passed by a long-standing rivalry could infact mean that.. Uchenna and Joyce pass Rob and Amber in the detour, leading to Rombers elimination.. ouch. :rotf: Now that would be funny.... But I would also like to see Eric & Danielle in a race with them after Rob's comments that him and Amber could beat them in a race. I'd love to see that. I believe we saw a little preview of that, to a clue box, on Sunday and Rob ran 4th. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 05, 2007, 09:55:14 PM A few points about Isla Redonda: • This page (http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/i/tierradelfuego/ushuaia/parque.htm) notes that the island is a nature preserve and tourism is limited Quote It is a place almost untouched by human hand. There are two trails, each about 20 minutes in duration that you can walk at your own pace. Remember, protecting the environment is the top priority. It is best if our presence is unnoted and we leave nothing but footprints and take only photos. Maybe there are penalties if a team leaves the trail. It makes you suspect that the ferry landing (see below) is an "amazing" sign just there for the racers. Strange that they would take the longer route out of Lapataia rather than the short trip out of Puerto Guarani (Bahia Ensenada). • This page (http://www.empa.ch/gaw/gawsis/reports.asp?StationID=40) describes a weather station with a 12-m tower on the island. • This page (http://www.polarphilately.com/pposouth.html) has pictures of polar post offices, including Isla Redonda (it's not the "southernmost" p.o. in the world, but...OK ;D). The Guidos photo is probably just a different viewpoint (I don't recognize that thing in the background). [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2007, 10:53:21 PM Just a brief pause to say: It is a Millenium! Slowhatch's next post will be 1000! (So now the pressure is on to make it a good one! :lol:) :conf: :party: :conf: Congratulations! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 10:54:24 PM Oh wow Slowhatch, lol [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 11:00:18 PM peach likes maps.. heres a supersize one, click click. (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_park_mapa.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/park_mapa.jpg) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2007, 11:09:00 PM Oooh--pretty! But what is Ushua?? :lol: Off to see if there is still room in Argentina Maps! Maps! Maps! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 05, 2007, 11:13:40 PM :lol: ok strap this on isla redonda Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 12:33:13 AM A few points about Isla Redonda: • This page (http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/i/tierradelfuego/ushuaia/parque.htm) notes that the island is a nature preserve and tourism is limited Quote It is a place almost untouched by human hand. There are two trails, each about 20 minutes in duration that you can walk at your own pace. Remember, protecting the environment is the top priority. It is best if our presence is unnoted and we leave nothing but footprints and take only photos. Maybe there are penalties if a team leaves the trail. It makes you suspect that the ferry landing (see below) is an "amazing" sign just there for the racers. Strange that they would take the longer route out of Lapataia rather than the short trip out of Puerto Guarani (Bahia Ensenada). • This page (http://www.empa.ch/gaw/gawsis/reports.asp?StationID=40) describes a weather station with a 12-m tower on the island. • This page (http://www.polarphilately.com/pposouth.html) has pictures of polar post offices, including Isla Redonda (it's not the "southernmost" p.o. in the world, but...OK ;D). The Guidos photo is probably just a different viewpoint (I don't recognize that thing in the background). I think you have it Slowhatch :waves: maybe its been painted? (http://www3.flickr.com/photos/swq/96675874/) What do you think Slowhatch?? [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 12:38:02 AM Don't hurt me :hides ... just looking Lapataia Bay. (http://gosouthamerica.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya&sdn=gosouthamerica&cdn=travel&tm=180&gps=69_1518_1020_585&f=22&tt=14&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.hilsberg.com/TierradelFuego24.htm) We could not travel any more south [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 12:53:52 AM I'm going to sleep soon and Slowhatch has left so...... WTG on your 1000th post Slowhatch :jumpy: :martini: :wine: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Image65.gif) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 01:09:07 AM Oh well puddin--we can party for Slowhatch again tomorrow! :happy: Y'all are too fast for me! I was working on a minor masterpiece about Isla Redonda when Slowhatch posted what I was working on and now I find you and I are following each other around! :lol: :rotf: :lol: Well here are a few quick other pics-- Some of these may be repeats-- :-\ From Bahía Ensenada, near the southeastern edge of the park, there are boat excursions to Isla Redonda (US$14 pp) from 10 a.m.–5:30 p.m. (For ordinary folks who don't have TAR zodiacs)

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Isla Redonda
Isla Redonda means the Round Island. This small island is located in the heart of the Beagle Channel, in front of the Tierra del Fuego National Park. After arriving at Bahia Ensenada, you board a small boat that takes us to the island. Here you find a small base for the Prefectura acional (Coast Guard), and the Worlds End Post Office! The island is surrounded by deep walls that go to 27 meters (88 feet.) There is a dense kelp forest with the typical channel fauna and sometimes sealions will come and join you, curious about what you are doing.

(anybody see those walls?)

And would this site  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/swq/108627917/) help any of you GE guys? I really think this is where they went on that zodiac but you know me  ;D --I'd like a pretty map of there to here!

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more...

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Post by: hakushu8 on March 06, 2007, 02:44:00 AM
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This page describes a weather station with a 12-m tower on the island.
Possibly the structure that Uchenna/Joyce and Joe/Bill came down from, in what could be the possible Roadblock (or the leg's final task) of finding the Pit Stop.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 03:08:54 AM
Hammock cause it is cool!

GE site...

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Post by: qing_her on March 06, 2007, 03:15:10 AM
Some clues on "End of the World" in the web clues:

It refers to Patagonia, Argentina
Particularly Isla de Los Estados, there is actually a lighthouse called Faro del fin del mundo ("Lighthouse at the end of the world"), is said to have inspired Jules Verne for his book The Lighthouse at the End of the World.

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Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 03:19:03 AM
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Possibly the structure that Uchenna/Joyce and Joe/Bill came down from, in what could be the possible Roadblock (or the leg's final task) of finding the Pit Stop.
That makes sense. Caps from the dock show Mirna carrying a route info card, but the card the Guidos open at the p.o. is a Roadblock card (it looks red, anyway). Early guess: the greeter is a park ranger (although technically Redonda isn't a part of the park) or the "postmaster."
In other news, judging by the color of the walls and paneling it looks like D/O are celebrating at Punta Arenas airport (photo source (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=385630103&size=o)). At the cap of them talking to Joyce might be Tepual airport in Puerto Montt. Note the sloping roof here (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=375068759&size=o).
And Thanks to everybody!  :jam:  :cow :conf:

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 03:35:16 AM
Some clues on "End of the World" in the web clues:

It refers to Patagonia, Argentina
Particularly Isla de Los Estados, there is actually a lighthouse called Faro del fin del mundo ("Lighthouse at the end of the world"), is said to have inspired Jules Verne for his book The Lighthouse at the End of the World.

I think this is it...

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Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
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And Thanks to everybody!

NO-- :thankyou: Slowhatch for all the thoughtful, well-considered posts!

Looking forward to the next 1000!

:conf: :dancer: :conf:
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 04:10:56 AM
Slowhatch said:

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Early guess: the greeter is a park ranger (although technically Redonda isn't a part of the park) or the "postmaster."

Here is the Postmaster in 1999--possibly could be??

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Post by: apskip on March 06, 2007, 07:52:45 AM
A few points about Isla Redonda:
• This page (http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/i/tierradelfuego/ushuaia/parque.htm) notes that the island is a nature preserve and tourism is limited
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It is a place almost untouched by human hand. There are two trails, each about 20 minutes in duration that you can walk at your own pace. Remember, protecting the environment is the top priority. It is best if our presence is unnoted and we leave nothing but footprints and take only photos.
Maybe there are penalties if a team leaves the trail. It makes you suspect that the ferry landing (see below) is an "amazing" sign just there for the racers. Strange that they would take the longer route out of Lapataia rather than the short trip out of Puerto Guarani (Bahia Ensenada).
• This page (http://www.empa.ch/gaw/gawsis/reports.asp?StationID=40) describes a weather station with a 12-m tower on the island.
• This page (http://www.polarphilately.com/pposouth.html) has pictures of polar post offices, including Isla Redonda (it's not the "southernmost" p.o. in the world, but...OK  ;D). The Guidos photo is probably just a different viewpoint (I don't recognize that thing in the background).

SLOWHATCH, ye of little faith on your 1000th post. You believe that the producers of the Amazing Race would actually try to put one over on the public with a special sign. Well, I don't think they did. Please look at the sign below, the photo of which orginated on an Argentinian tourist site that shall be unnamed and note how the sign construction for both signs is typical of the area. The only thing that bothers me about your sign is that it is in English, obviously not the prevelant language for Tierra del Fuego.

Also, I may have the answer to your dilemma about why the access to Isla Redonda was done from Lapataia and not Bahia Ensenada. Lapataia is the official end of Route 3, the Pan American Highway (it says so in my sign besides saying so on the maps). Route 3 is straight north/south on the way to Lapataia so the shortest route in to the water is via Lapataia. To go to Ensenada where the boat crossing is much shorter involves turning east off of route 3 and taking rougher roads.. One further aspect that certainly was decisive is that from Lapataia it allowed the producers to control the boating since they were contracted boats and captains and keep everything out of the public eye. At Ensenada the regular boats there might have a monopoly but certainly would have been more public.

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Post by: NDIrish on March 06, 2007, 09:49:26 AM
I looked at this picture and I'm not sure if I found somthing or not ...... David & Mary with Romber ?  ???

I think that is Kandices blue bandana?

I think is her blue bandana, too.

The hat that David wears is a Univ. of Kentucky Wildcat hat and they are a deeper, almost royal blue in their teams colors.  I was able to zoom in the picture RT posted :yess: and I don't see any U of Ky blue in the background.

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 10:05:59 AM
I still think that there is an intersection on this leg. Maybe they do the detour together, then split up and have to do the roadblock alone?

In the shots of Rob and Amber / Dustin and Kandice D&K are wearing different  clothes then they are when they rip the number off the clue box.

hmm...I'm excited for this ep guys!  :wohoo:
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Post by: NDIrish on March 06, 2007, 10:25:14 AM
Wow that was fast Slowhatch  :yess: link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638) and WTG on the mileage posts Chateau!!

Nice clear video for once!!

VO: and keeping cool under pressure
Charla: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO!?
Mirna: stay awake..
VO: You've got to see how this episode ends
Rob: I'm not even close to my prime..
VO: new Amazing Race All-Stars...

I think that Mirna is telling Charla "stay away".
But then last week I was hearing bugs or bucs instead of boobs.... :lol3:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: sharkattack on March 06, 2007, 11:28:23 AM
So do we know who wins this leg ? I haven't seen any pics or vids showing anything.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
Just finished replaying Ep 3. During the Metri task, Eric told Danielle (more than once)  to "stop being a baby." So I'll guess the title comes from E/D.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 12:28:53 PM
Just finished replaying Ep 3. During the Metri task, Eric told Danielle (more than once)  to "stop being a baby." So I'll guess the title comes from E/D.

I totally agree about this one. (Big Papi--close your eyes here...sorry! :kissy:)

Eric was not very nice to Danielle during Fish-block. Now most of us believe that they were not a true couple by the time the race began, but even as just a team-mate he could have been more supportive.

I hope that the CBS clue of
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**Another team reaches meltdown point when one member feels put upon by another.
does refer to Danielle--it is time she put Eric in his place. While I'm sure that Eric may be frustrated at not having quite as strong of a partner as Jeremy was--Danielle did a very good job at overcoming what was an obvious fear of fish ( :lol:) and Eric needs to be more encouraging towards her. Compared to how badly she raced last time, she is doing much better this time around and deserves some respect from Eric. But I'm afraid that  we may see more of this kind of behavior from Eric, as his track record of respect towards women is --shall we say--just a little lacking!

I definitely do not think that this would be The Cha's, T/I, Romber, or the Guidos based on how they work so well together. U/J or the BQ's--might feel it but are probably too savvy to show it for the cameras. Ch/Mirna--maybe--but they seem to end up supporting each other no matter what--so, IMO, that leaves E/D too.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 12:32:02 PM
**Another team reaches meltdown point when one member feels put upon by another
Just finished replaying Ep 3. During the Metri task, Eric told Danielle (more than once)  to "stop being a baby." So I'll guess the title comes from E/D.

True that Slowhatch ...as well as "boobs" multiple times :grins:....
This is why my guess is Bill & Joe .. pretty sure its Bill that tells Joe not to cry and in one of the shots we see this
:neener: (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/00013-5-2007.jpg)

So do we know who wins this leg ? I haven't seen any pics or vids showing anything.
There are no pictures, how dare they! lol !!  I'll guess The Cha's or Eric & Dee?
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 12:32:44 PM
I have a little question.

Why is Rob standing in this shot?  I thought teams were in Zodiacs.   ???

I don't think you can stand like that while it is speeding along.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 12:40:48 PM
puddin--you have done SUCH a nice job of organizing all this--but are the previews all together somewhere? I have the sinking feeling I've missed one!

(Taxi? I didn't see no stinkin' taxi!)
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 01:05:12 PM
puddin--you have done SUCH a nice job of organizing all this--but are the previews all together somewhere? I have the sinking feeling I've missed one!

(Taxi? I didn't see no stinkin' taxi!)
Back one page (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11520.msg178286.html#msg178286) peach ..still waiting on Phils preview to help piece the pictures together but that won't be untill Thursday  :umn: . I guessed at what went where for now.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 01:08:55 PM
bump

EP4 Preview

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 01:19:17 PM
Cape Verde, Spice Islands, Canary Islands, Philippines, Cape of GH, Celebes...It looks like a Magellan-specific task.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 06, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
I just want to say a word in defense of DANIELLE. In these episodes, she strikes me as a no-nonsense type of woman who knows what she wants($500,000, not Eric) and will take a bit of verbal abuse to get it. She holds her tongue most of the time, but when she decided to let it fly she is capable of putting it to wicked use. Remember, in real life this woman is a bartender earning the money to finish a Master's degree. She is smart enough to let Eric think he's totally in control of all decisions for their team, but when she has something important to interject, I'll bet it gets interjected and it will be in situations where Eric has no choice but to listen. Hey, BIG GRAND-PAPI, you must know her better than we we do from our limited TV exposure. What do you think? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 01:24:44 PM Cape Verde, Spice Islands, Canary Islands, Philippines, Cape of GH, Celebes...It looks like a Magellan-specific task. your good Amazing Slowhatch :jumpy: I'm thinking maybe PA for the map task (same place as the telephone poles, right?) There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map (http://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/dec02/maps.html). [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 01:47:34 PM Cape Verde, Spice Islands, Canary Islands, Philippines, Cape of GH, Celebes...It looks like a Magellan-specific task. And isn't there a Zanzibar connection too? But maybe after he died? i know he's considered to have "discovered" the Philippines... Hmmm..any connection to Poland or Malaysia? Do we have a theme going here? ;D Thanks for the previews puddin--I did miss one! (Whatever happened to the midweek AOL ones? ???) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 06, 2007, 03:23:24 PM The question of how the teams get from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia still bothers me. I have been trying to come up with a scenario that gets them there by plane. One that I considered was if all teams could make the scheduled 2pm Saturday departure, but that will be only 3 hours after the earliest possible arrival into Punta Arenas, so that's no good. I have discovered the regular flight schedule for DAP Airlines on Monday and Wednesday: REGULAR FLIGHTS PROGRAMS Punta Arenas - Ushuaia Time of Flight: 01:00 Hrs. Airplane:TwinOtter Capacity: 20 passengers Summer season (Nov - Mar) Monday and Wednesday Leaves Hour FL-100 PUQ 09:00 Now, that same TwinOtter would be sitting around on Saturday evening Nov. 25 or Sunday morning Nov. 26 available for charters to take 8 teams plus 4 crew along. This may be how the producers get the teams there. They would have to pre-position the other crew with another charter flight or by ferry/road. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 04:01:42 PM Yay! I knew you would be figuring this part out for us! :ty3: This whole Timeline thing for this episode is absolutely driving me insane. I can't seem to figure it all out... We know they are in Tierra del Fuego Sun Am to do tasks (Zodiac boats, post office on Isla Redondo, etc) 11/26 The Pitstop promos suggest serious bunching and a major race to the finishmat. So then what? Pitstop late afternoon/early evening 11/26. 12 hours=depart AM 11/27 36 hours=depart AM 11/28 So why were the Guidos booking tickets with sad faces late on 11/28?? Given what we have seen--they certainly shouldn't be hours behind other teams... Unless...and here is where they are really messing with me-- Just when I've grieved and given up on Antarctica (take a deep breath...feel the Cha's Zen...go with the Flo {what the!! :lol:}) :wall: Could we possibly be going there after all?? Humor me a little....We have 36 hours to play with... and there is the whole something everyone will be talking about thing... I know, I know--but I'm obsessing about those extra hours... Lord knows our guys need some serious rest but have we ever had a 48 hour Pitstop?? The guy who first posted the Ushuaia spoiler was a serious fan and spent quite some time looking for them around town, and never found any other evidence of the teams anywhere...so where would they have been? Even in a tent on an island in the park there are loads of other tourists around cause that's the busy time of year...I think they had to keep them moving somewhere... Okay--feel free to start calling the men in white coats--I can't help it if I'm having ice-y delusions! :crazy: I blame it on Penguin fever! :lol: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by:$HOP@HOL!C on March 06, 2007, 04:03:25 PM
What is this dock thing???
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/funky_vs/ferrylanding.jpg)

It looks to me like BQs are grabbing number "4".
&& i think Romber says the title, b/c they could say that to Charla when they're fighting.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
apskip, thanks for the flight info.

just going through my pictures and was lurking around Ushuaia last night ..this flash of the boats was in one of the earlier promos ..
I don't know if it match's up... I'm just throwing it out there.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 05:08:15 PM
More guesswork. Rob's post has all the markers on the same plane, facing the same way. Either he's made a boo-boo or it doesn't matter which way the markers point. What then? Maybe get the Magellan locations, or put those locations in the correct order (or both), then show it to LocalMagellanExpertGuy who says yes or no. It's unrealistic to expect the racers to know that much history, so that's where the map comes in. And maybe the compass as well, although we still haven't seen the other half of the Detour.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 05:55:17 PM
" LocalMagellanExpertGuy " :rotf:
Slowhatch do you think there is any evidence of am intersection? I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 06:00:57 PM
Yea Puddin - I have to admit I'm not convinced that there is an intersection anymore. The only thing that seems like there is is the third webclue on cbs.com, oh well..hopefully we'll see something in phil's preview!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 06:11:44 PM
Agreed. The "working together" and "treachery" stuff at CBS could just refer to ordinary, everyday backstabbing.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 06, 2007, 06:17:45 PM Ah-greed. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 06:28:44 PM ok good enough ( thanks for shrinking your signature choco :tup: ) Isla Redonda is not as easy as you would think to find pictures.. I guess the postmaster is also the chef? anyway some this and that ... [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 06:39:31 PM Ok.. question. Do we think the Roadblock task is actually on isla Redonda? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 07:08:47 PM This shot was taken here between 7:39 and 8:18 pm (assumes November 24th) Note that I have corrected this because I was using the wrong latitude. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 07:33:51 PM puddin :bow: :bow: :bow: Thank you so much for those NEW pictures--I thought I looked everywhere and those are new to me--nice to get a different perspective. Thank you Chateau! now if we can get a Romber shot we'll know the whole time spread--D/M said that they were only a few minutes behind Ch/Mirna to the mat... (and weren't those shots of Phil will the sunset on his face (mat chats) gorgeous? :luvu: Do we even know what the two Detours are, not to mention the Roadblock? One thing is build a directional sign, and (maybe) use your compass/map to orient the signs correctly. (IIRC, we see Romber, U/J, and CH/Mirna here) Or maybe the use the compass/map is a whole separate Detour? And is the local Magellan expert a descendent, a geographer extraordinaire ;), or what? Roadblock (we've seen a lot of running around, but no sign of the actual task--right?) Let's see: catch a penguin--and wrap him for shipping, and have him stamped at the southernmost post office in the world?? :lol: The only thing I believe looks intersection-y is the shot of E/D and the Cha's in the zodiac together (the BQ's/Romber looking at a map in the Plaza--I don't buy it...) But I would love to not see an Intersection again--I hate that whole thing! There is the "one team agrees reluctantly to work with another" thing though... And it might be fun to see them stuck together on along trip Argentina back to Chile... Clearly we need more info! ??? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 07:44:28 PM I'll make an attempt at the boat order. So far we've seen three distinct groups. The middle group is BQs and Guidos (spots 4 and 5). The last group (I'm assuming this because of the bootlist) is R/A, C/M and U/J. Unless all three went in the hard-shell boat, then C/M went first and the other two teams had to wait. The first two teams are E/D and D/O; the Southern Living photos provided the only good shadows (around noon, Chateau wrote). That leaves Teri/Ian as the wildcard; they're either the third team or the first (with a FF). Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 07:58:05 PM Is the boats close to the pit-stop? I doubt they'd have something like that in an area that wouldn't give other teams a chance to catch up. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 08:00:03 PM Slowhatch what is this please? Quote Southern Living photos I am thinking of the magazine but what does it mean here? (sorry--I'm probably missing something obvious...) I'm thinking it must be the zodiac boats but... ??? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 08:02:40 PM Work it Chateau!! :jumpy: an album (http://www.misterioaustral.com/galeria/thumbnails.php?album=6&page=1) ( haven't figured out how to get the pictures larger?) [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2007, 08:16:41 PM Peach, Southern Living was the title of Patty's blog (http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/guest.pl?tweb_tripID=southern_living&tweb_UID=pattyv&tweb_entryID=1164755340&tweb_guest_password=&tweb_PID=tpod) where the zodiac photos are. (we might see her on the show; the producers made no attempt to hide other civilians) Great album, Puddin! :jumpy: :yess: The fourth photo looks like a match for the pit stop cap. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 08:20:21 PM Puddin does it again! It is a match! Pitstop on Isla Rodonda!! :wohoo: Thanks Slowhatch--I should have known that--she's another Georgia Girl! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 08:24:19 PM Peach, that is no doubt the spot! Here is a way that teams can get from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia by 10 am on the 26th. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 08:26:25 PM Umm err yeah I knew it the whole time, just wanted to keep you all on your toes :carryon: :kogs You all are sharper than me! Good catch teamies :jumpy: :keeta:!! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 08:38:26 PM From the same album--are these our steps? And a "stand up in it" boat for Chateau! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 08:38:46 PM And here is a stab at the timing. There is a lot of spare time in Ushuaia. I am sure they tried, but failed to get to Antarctica. The weather looks like it sucked. No sunshine. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 08:50:37 PM There is a "refugio" there--maybe that's where our guys stay? And heee....that's my hammock! Chateau--Great flight find! But tight connection in Buenos Ares--I sense drama! And you think there will be a 48 hour pitstop too? [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 08:59:21 PM It's a short ride to the Isla Redonda. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 09:24:42 PM Thank You! :thankyou: Now I can picture it much better--I actually didn't think it was so close! So when they are in the zodiacs they are off to Isla Redonda--I was starting to wonder what else they might do... Other than sightseeing seals, cormorants, and lighthouses there doesn't seem to be a lot. Unless they have to do some kind of on the water navigation task--that would be cool! They have compasses... Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 09:27:45 PM so are they pulling numbers to take a boat the the island with the pitstop??? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 09:39:33 PM The Romber checkin for the last leg is a lot harder to call. There was no sun when they ran to the mat. But it did come out during their chat! And I can get orientation from the Volcan Orsono. This shot was taken between 5:44 and 6:21 pm (assumes November 24th). [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 10:07:53 PM Nice t-shirt on ROB :hearts:!! LOL peach! maybe they have to cook lunch or stamp letters for tourists or even count flags or maybe climb the tower :lol:? ( why can't I find a picture of that darn tower!?) Since I hadn't had lunch yet, I wasn't thinking straight, so I got onto a small zodiac boat in the bay and continued south to Isla Redonda, a very small, very remote little Island that gave me some hint of what's to come. As you approach the island, the first thing that catches your eye are the birds. Everywhere you look, wings are arcing through tight curves against the cliffs. I spotted some cormorants against the rocks. According to Esteban, these are Rocky Cormorants. Who would have guessed? Before I concur with his classification, I'll have to check with one of Professor Rose's kids. All this hard work made me hungry, so it was a good thing we came into the one-boat dock, where a short hike brought us to the post office/harbor master/restaurant/immigration office/banos of the island. The harbor is surrounded with at least twenty Argentine flags, just in case those pushy Chileans 500 meters South forget where the big boys drew the line on the map years ago. Thankfully, Carlos, local chef extraordinaire and resident demigod of his own miniature empire, was putting the final touches on our soup and stew. After lunch, it was off to play on the cliffs overlooking the Island's harbor, but that's another story. Next stop, Cabos de Hornos ("Cape Horn") then we're off to that peaceful stretch of sea known for it's tropical breezes and calm seas called Drake's Passage link (http://www.clubcruceros.org/ANTARCTICA.htm) Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 10:11:49 PM so are they pulling numbers to take a boat the the island with the pitstop??? They have to do the roadblock first Mike on that island where the pitstop is ..whatever it is? [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 10:17:58 PM Fictional roadblocks: (we've seen a lot of running around, but no sign of the actual task--right?) Let's see: catch a penguin--and wrap him for shipping, and have him stamped at the southernmost post office in the world?? cook lunch or stamp letters for tourists or even count flags or maybe climb the tower ? ( why can't I find a picture of that darn tower!?) "Intersect" in a hammock... :-[ play on the cliffs overlooking the Island's harbor (uh-oh--) Who else wants to play??? And I've looked all over for that darn tower too---searched forestry and weather towers w/out success.... Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 10:21:09 PM This episode has so much happening in it im so excited. I hope there is an intersection. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 06, 2007, 11:05:45 PM Peach, that is no doubt the spot! Here is a way that teams can get from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia by 10 am on the 26th. CHATEAU, as a former travel agent I can tell you that the connection in Santiago will be below minimums for an international flight. They will not be allowed to book it. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 06, 2007, 11:17:07 PM And here is a stab at the timing. There is a lot of spare time in Ushuaia. I am sure they tried, but failed to get to Antarctica. The weather looks like it sucked. No sunshine. CHATEAU, my previous information on flights from PUERTO MONTT to PUNTA ARENAS was apparently for a weekday and not valid for a Saturday. The Saturday flights are: LAN 993 leaves PMC 0920 arrives PUQ 1130 LAN 997 leaves PMC 1100 arrives PUQ 1310 If I follow your increments for the PUNTA ARENA tasks, then teams that make the first flight will be back to the Punta Arenas airport well before the scheduled 1400 nonstop flight to USHUAIA. Teams that don't make the first flight are in serious trouble. Since Charla/Mirna are about an hour away from Puerto Montt airport and leaving the pitstop somewhere around 8am, it's going to be tight for them and also for the Guidos. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2007, 11:17:32 PM I haven't found anything better :'( And I'm pretty sure about the Romber/BQs time at the Magellan statue around 1:30. The 2:00 pm flight to USH is too early for them. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2007, 11:30:27 PM Charter flights, boys, charter flights! ;D I'm thinking it must be that :plane: or :hero: ! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: michael on March 06, 2007, 11:33:27 PM so if dustin and kandice dont make it onto the 2 00 flight how does dustin manage to pull off the fourth number?! Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 06, 2007, 11:38:49 PM It's only Tuesday guys, things will come together, you'll see. They always do. :bow: to the Greatness of Chateau :crown Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: hakushu8 on March 07, 2007, 01:36:00 AM Great job on the new finds, everyone! :yess: Just a thought, maybe the encircled box type thing below next to the mat is a spotlight, in case it gets really dark for the Roadblockers on the tower to see the flag? [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 01:47:54 AM Thanks for all the help hakushu8 :kuss: Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: apskip on March 07, 2007, 06:20:56 AM so if dustin and kandice dont make it onto the 2 00 flight how does dustin manage to pull off the fourth number?! MIKE D19, The working hypothesis has always been that the teams have to get across the Strait of Magellan by ferry to Porvenir and then have U-drive cars from there for 9 hours to get to Ushuaia and then Tierra Del Fuego National Park. The second hypothesis is that charter flights can get the teams and crew there by Sunday afternoon. We always assumed that it was too tight for anyone to catch the 1400 flight to Ushuaia, previously because it does not fly on Sunday and now because there is too much time for tasks in Punta Arenas for them to get it when it does fly on Saturday. Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2007, 07:10:53 AM so are they pulling numbers to take a boat the the island with the pitstop??? so if dustin and kandice dont make it onto the 2 00 flight how does dustin manage to pull off the fourth number?! You had it right the first time MikeD19! Dustin is pulling the number for the ferry to Isla Redonda--looks like there is only room for two teams per ferry. I think the 2PM flight they are talking about refers to flights from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia (Ushuaia=Tierra del Fuego=Isla Redonda) And we still don't know for sure whether or not that flight will have to be a charter one, but it is possible since there are limited scheduled flights that day. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by:$HOP@HOL!C on March 07, 2007, 10:25:41 AM
so are they pulling numbers to take a boat the the island with the pitstop???
so if dustin and kandice dont make it onto the 2 00 flight how does dustin manage to pull off the fourth number?!

You had it right the first time  MikeD19!

Dustin is pulling the number for the ferry to Isla Redonda--looks like there is only room for two teams per ferry.

I think the 2PM flight they are talking about refers to flights from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia (Ushuaia=Tierra del Fuego=Isla Redonda)
And we still don't know for sure whether or not that flight will have to be a charter one, but it is possible since there are limited scheduled flights that day.
Did u notice that the boats leave every 20 min??? It says on the sign.
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Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 07, 2007, 10:29:30 AM Puddin can I use ur avatar? Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: Kogs on March 07, 2007, 11:21:52 AM Great job on the new finds, everyone! :yess: Just a thought, maybe the encircled box type thing below next to the mat is a spotlight, in case it gets really dark for the Roadblockers on the tower to see the flag? good thought, since season7 episode 2 they havnt had the yellow and red flag on the pitstop thingy Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 03:28:07 PM Puddin can I use ur avatar? sure, its annoying me, lol help yourself (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Crash.gif) just adding these since I found them, i'm not sure if they are repeats.. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by:$HOP@HOL!C on March 07, 2007, 04:23:12 PM
thxx ;D BTW did u guys c my previous post, about the boat leaving every 20 min???
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Post by: michael on March 07, 2007, 04:26:00 PM
hmm...maybe the roadblock has something to do with eating, and THATS why rob and amber fall so far behind and get eliminated!!

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 04:44:08 PM
I'm going with the theory (mentioned earlier) that they strayed from the designated pathway to the mat.  See the green tag on a post next to where Charla tastes the earth.  They are told they have to go back or maybe they are tagged with a time penalty.

And that's it for Romber.

This shot was taken on Isla Redonda looking directly south.

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Post by: asamber1 on March 07, 2007, 06:04:31 PM
I'm going with the theory (mentioned earlier) that they strayed from the designated pathway to the mat.  See the green tag on a post next to where Charla tastes the earth.  They are told they have to go back or maybe they are tagged with a time penalty.

And that's it for Romber.

This shot was taken on Isla Redonda looking directly south.

I hope for the sake of Amazing Race thats not the case.  Hate to say it Rob and Amber are prolly the most loved team this season, and for no reason [this season only] the most hated, and people will be outraged if they go out like that.   Thats almost as stupid as making Uchenna and Joyce go back for taking the thing on the stick and not the whole stick.   I know if Romber goes out like that [nevermind over Charla and Mirna] i wont be able to watch.  It was hard enough to continue watching AR6 after the Lena and Kristy incident.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 06:36:17 PM

Ribit   Ribit   ribit   Romber   Ribit

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 06:40:06 PM
I hear crickets? sooooooooo I am burying myself in the intro flash caps  :waves:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: red_sox on March 07, 2007, 07:20:24 PM
Seeing as Romber and Uchenna/Joycce were the first two teams to arrive in the last episode. but both fall to the back of the pack this episode.. is it possible that at the beginning of this leg they both have trouble finding something and work together, but go the wrong way, making them both fall behind drastically?

And is the roadblock before or after the detour? Because if the roadblock is after th detour, and is located at the other side of the boat ride.. it looks almost definite that the last three teams are C/M, U/J, and Romber.. I hope it is really close  :meow:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 07:46:35 PM
Geez what ?!

The tide has gone out leaving Romber High and Dry !

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Post by: apskip on March 07, 2007, 07:56:11 PM
Seeing as Romber and Uchenna/Joycce were the first two teams to arrive in the last episode. but both fall to the back of the pack this episode.. is it possible that at the beginning of this leg they both have trouble finding something and work together, but go the wrong way, making them both fall behind drastically?

And is the roadblock before or after the detour? Because if the roadblock is after th detour, and is located at the other side of the boat ride.. it looks almost definite that the last three teams are C/M, U/J, and Romber.. I hope it is really close  :meow:

RED SOX, please consider that you can expect a huge bunching moment probably near the beginning of episode 4 but maybe also a second one toward the end. If the second one does occur, all hell will break loose as all teams scramble to reach the pitstop under great pressure.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 08:13:32 PM
So the ferry pairs have to be one of these three:

Case 1 T&I picks #3
E&D + Chas
T&I + BQs
Guido + C&M
Romber + U&J

Case 2 T&I picks #5 or 6
E&D + Chas
Guido + BQs
C&M + T&I
Romber + U&J

Case 3 T&I picks #7 or 8
E&D + Chas
Guido + BQs
Romber + U&J
C&M + T&I

I suspect it is case 1 or 2 since we be fairly sure Romber is in the last boat.

Also, E&D are in the first boat every time.  They are my pick the leg's winners.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 07, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
Yeah, I'd say it looks like they win the leg to...but then it also depends on what the road block is and how difficult it will be.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
Nice work Chateau!
Alex : " I'll pick #2 The-rapist"  :waves:
.........will have to look closer for Teri & Ian on the docks  ???
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 08:31:14 PM
I think # 1 is it because I can't see either Guido beating Dustin in that footrace.   :rotf:

Case 1 T&I picks #3
12:00 departure  E&D + Chas
12:20 departure  T&I + BQs
12:40 departure  Guido + C&M
1:00 departure  Romber + U&J

The actual times may be separated by more time.  In fact, from the tide variation in the pics I would guess more than an hour from BQs to Romber.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 08:45:41 PM
Who wants to play post office?

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Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 08:47:06 PM
I wonder if Eric will recognize the Italian flag this time.   :lol:
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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 08:48:26 PM
I wonder if Eric will recognize the Italian flag this time.   :lol:
LOL!! :rotf:

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 07, 2007, 08:49:39 PM
Hmm...is the post office thing the road block or the detour?

If it's the road block that is where Dustin and Kandice and Teri and Ian might catch up with E/D or D/O because Dustin is really smart and I would imagine Teri and Ian to be smart to. (I'm not saying Eric & Dee or D/O aren't smart though!!)

Great pics puddin!

haha that phil preview couldn't make the romber boot more obvious
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 08:54:13 PM
It's the Roadblock.

Hmmm, I guess this means the greeter can't be the Postmaster.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Hey Puddin!

Can you get some more stills up.  Esp the ones with shadows!  I will be able to get some times later on.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 08:58:18 PM
It's the Roadblock.

Hmmm, I guess this means the greeter can't be the Postmaster.
The boat dudes wear yellow to so might be like a employee or something ?
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 08:59:05 PM
Hey Puddin!

Can you get some more stills up.  Esp the ones with shadows!  I will be able to get some times later on.
Will do but LOST is coming on! I'll be back Chateau :)
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 09:01:06 PM
So Rob fails to complete the Roadblock as fast as Uchenna.  Remember Rob couldn't eat the meat and Uchenna did.

Amber on the letter sorting would have saved this team.   :jam:

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Will do but LOST is coming on! I'll be back Chateau

Works for me!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 07, 2007, 09:09:54 PM
Rob's finger covers up the other info, but you can see Seville, Ferd's start.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 09:10:48 PM
pics going here

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 09:31:37 PM
:hearts:  :luvya:

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2007, 09:39:25 PM
Chateau--

I remain in awe of your left-brain! Tides--math specs--WOW!

But my right brain is saying:

Hey! The Cha's are in that boat too--why can't they be first?

Is the fall all misdirection? Could Charla be hurt?

We never saw it coming? Any other ideas besides Romber elimination? (Not that I don't think they are not out--just maybe something else too? In medicine, we call this 'looking for zebras'!) :lol:

And if they are all separated by 20 minutes, how the heck do we end up with a foot race to the finish? Are some teams' brains really more than 20 minutes slower?

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 07, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
Well, I don't get it. They're given the Magellan places (the other place you can see, San Lucar de Barrameda, is at the mouth of the river) and the proper order (you can see the lines connecting the journey points). What's left to figure out?  ???

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Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 10:11:23 PM
Chateau--

I remain in awe of your left-brain! Tides--math specs--WOW!

But my right brain is saying:

Hey! The Cha's are in that boat too--why can't they be first?

Is the fall all misdirection? Could Charla be hurt?

We never saw it coming? Any other ideas besides Romber elimination? (Not that I don't think they are not out--just maybe something else too? In medicine, we call this 'looking for zebras'!) :lol:

And if they are all separated by 20 minutes, how the heck do we end up with a foot race to the finish? Are some teams' brains really more than 20 minutes slower?

I take it as Phil is telling us that Romber are physical not intelligent and it looks like Mirna won't help him with the RB, remember the forshadowing with the Guido's forgetting half their clue last week? and Mirna wondering why they should help them? then the Guido's pass them as Shmirna goes back for the keys in the tent..* The Curse of Shmirna lives on * :sera:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: dlwdmb on March 07, 2007, 11:28:42 PM
Nice work Chateau!
Alex : " I'll pick #2 The-rapist"  :waves:
.........will have to look closer for Teri & Ian on the docks  ???
Alex reploes " That's THERAPIST, you twit"  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: One of my all time favs!
I'm back, good to see you puddin and all!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2007, 11:35:34 PM
Whats up dlwdmb   :hearts: ?

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2007, 11:57:09 PM
huh?

I'm lost with this.    :umn:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 12:24:31 AM
It sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCVnmmpCqs).  ;D
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 12:27:37 AM
Chateau  :puter: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Jeopardy!_(Saturday_Night_Live)#The_sketch) << click.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 12:28:47 AM
It sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCVnmmpCqs).  ;D
Thats what I was looking for Slowhtach!! :jam:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 12:50:51 AM
You can download Phil's EP4 preview here  (http://cbsmediagroupftp.com/clips06/AMAZING%20RACE%20WEEK%204%20700kbps.wmv) .
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 01:19:40 AM
The teams are passing Hostal Fagnano (Fagnano #561), which is on the direct path from the plaza to cerro cruz, so no surprises there.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2007, 01:34:14 AM
I think they are going the other way!  Cerro to Plaza
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2007, 02:08:33 AM
FWIW

The U&J shot was taken a little later (10 to 30 min) than the Romber shot:

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 02:25:13 AM
He looks like he's holding a large (scale) block-by-block PA map, so maybe it's an old-fashioned hunt.

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Post by: apskip on March 08, 2007, 07:53:02 AM
It sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCVnmmpCqs).  ;D

What a winner! right up there with Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First?". thanks to SLOWHATCH for posting it and to dlwdmb for triggering it.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2007, 08:02:05 AM
So Rob fails to complete the Roadblock as fast as Uchenna.  Remember Rob couldn't eat the meat and Uchenna did.

Amber on the letter sorting would have saved this team.   :jam:

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Will do but LOST is coming on! I'll be back Chateau

Works for me!

CHATEAU, my take on it is that ROB fails to complete the ROADBLOCK as fast as either MIRNA or UCHENNA. We do not see any of the other teams around, so it is probable that they were in the final boat (which has already been predicted) and that all other teams completed this Flags/Letters luck ROADBLOCK rather quickly.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2007, 10:17:54 AM
I just  :groan: realized that there is no reason that they have to be paired in the boats.

So, farming for drama here, I bet Charla & Mirna are in the last boat all alone.  Teri & Ian arrived at some earlier time and have already gone to Isla Redonda.  There is only 20 min separating them from slow Rob.  He chokes the letter sorting and Mirna gets it done first.  Footrace.  Or not.  Just he knows they lost so they walk in a dilatory fashion, hand in hand, to the mat.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 10:36:37 AM
I just  :groan: realized that there is no reason that they have to be paired in the boats.

So, farming for drama here, I bet Charla & Mirna are in the last boat all alone.  Teri & Ian arrived at some earlier time and have already gone to Isla Redonda.  There is only 20 min separating them from slow Rob.  He chokes the letter sorting and Mirna gets it done first.  Footrace.  Or not.  Just he knows they lost so they walk in a dilatory fashion, hand in hand, to the mat.
I always thought that was the scenario and thats why we can't find I/T on the docks   ;D
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: charlierose on March 08, 2007, 10:51:20 AM
I truly honestly cannot believe they are being eliminated this Sunday.  What a shame. They were good racers.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2007, 03:18:17 PM
Ribit       Ribit       Ribit       Romber       Ribit
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on March 08, 2007, 03:35:42 PM So the ferry pairs have to be one of these three: Case 1 T&I picks #3 E&D + Chas T&I + BQs Guido + C&M Romber + U&J Case 2 T&I picks #5 or 6 E&D + Chas Guido + BQs C&M + T&I Romber + U&J Case 3 T&I picks #7 or 8 E&D + Chas Guido + BQs Romber + U&J C&M + T&I I suspect it is case 1 or 2 since we be fairly sure Romber is in the last boat. Also, E&D are in the first boat every time. They are my pick the leg's winners. Yea, 20 min apart Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!" Post by:$HOP@HOL!C on March 08, 2007, 03:36:46 PM
I wonder if Eric will recognize the Italian flag this time.   :lol:
LOL!!! :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 08, 2007, 03:45:30 PM
Not long until we get to see the episode  :happy:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: dlwdmb on March 08, 2007, 05:22:34 PM
Whats up dlwdmb   :hearts: ?

Not to be a downer, still fighting the cancer I got diagnosed with last year. I went thru Chemo, then radiation and now I have surgery set for 4/18...then another round of chemo.
I need to get my reality fix by then.
How have YOU been? :yess: :yess: :yess: for the link, LOVE it!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 08:07:47 PM
Sending you hugs and praying for a speedy recovery dlwdmb  :luvya:

You can see the BQ's in front of the Guidos ..

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 08:15:00 PM
I've hunted for that porte cochere but haven't found it yet; as a hunch, I'd say the T/I cap looks more like PA than Ushuaia.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 08:25:19 PM
Heres  a good shadow
The Cha's with their Detour map
Charla maybe a shadow?

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: fortunealesa on March 08, 2007, 08:43:19 PM
I truly honestly cannot believe they are being eliminated this Sunday.  What a shame. They were good racers.

I am so shocked that Romber get eliminated so early!!  Not to mention, that means Shmirna and Mirna make it longer than them!  Dang!!  I don't think the show will be as entertaining without Rob!  BIG BUMMER!!   :'(
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 08:53:08 PM
It looks like D/O in that cap still have the giant PA street map with them; they must have done well and gotten an early connection/charter seats/etc.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 08:59:22 PM
It looks like D/O in that cap still have the giant PA street map with them; they must have done well and gotten an early connection/charter seats/etc.
So Uchenna & Joyce either make the same flight, or not or mess up somewere on the way to Tierra del Fuego?

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Post by: michael on March 08, 2007, 09:09:46 PM
I'm still so amazed at how you guys piece all of these things together from a 30 second promo :P

you guy are all amazing!!  :happy:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 08, 2007, 09:23:30 PM
I'm reasonably certain that D/O alone, holding the map, is at PA. But my hunch is that D/O with Joyce is at PM (El Tepual airport); I haven't found any good photos of the inside, but note the sloping roof here (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1309393952047881045wFKuOz?vhost=rides).

Take a peek at the Redonda cap; is that Yellowjacket standing in the doorway?  ;D

OK, I'm certain now. As well as the sloping roof, compare the side windows (source (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1309388166047881045uYuZWs?vhost=rides))

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2007, 09:30:14 PM
I'm reasonably certain that D/O alone, holding the map, is at PA. But my hunch is that D/O with Joyce is at PM (El Tepual airport); I haven't found any good photos of the inside, but note the sloping roof here (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1309393952047881045wFKuOz?vhost=rides).
Oh I see! the editing made me think they were together in the same airport in both those shots  :tup:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2007, 10:50:25 AM
No surprises here , also I read that they will be on Regis & Kelly.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: makz3d on March 09, 2007, 12:13:18 PM
Puddin,

Have any of the other eliminated All Star teams been on Regis & Kelly?  If not, sorry to say but that may be an indication for sure that it's Rob & Amber that are being eliminated.  I checked the website, but not real close.  At least last Monday a TAR All-Star team was not on.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2007, 12:56:25 PM
Puddin,

Have any of the other eliminated All Star teams been on Regis & Kelly?  If not, sorry to say but that may be an indication for sure that it's Rob & Amber that are being eliminated.  I checked the website, but not real close.  At least last Monday a TAR All-Star team was not on.
If I recall right only the winners appear on Regis but TAR7 Rob and Amber were on the show, not Uchenna & Joyce. For some reason I think Mary & David were on TAR10 but am not sure?
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Kogs on March 09, 2007, 01:20:55 PM
Puddin,

Have any of the other eliminated All Star teams been on Regis & Kelly?  If not, sorry to say but that may be an indication for sure that it's Rob & Amber that are being eliminated.  I checked the website, but not real close.  At least last Monday a TAR All-Star team was not on.
If I recall right only the winners appear on Regis but TAR7 Rob and Amber were on the show, not Uchenna & Joyce. For some reason I think Mary & David were on TAR10 but am not sure?

james and tyler where on regis
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 09, 2007, 02:13:59 PM
Oh, ok thanks Kogs, for some reason I thought Kentucky was on Regis the same day they were on The View.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: makz3d on March 09, 2007, 05:21:10 PM
Puddin,

Have any of the other eliminated All Star teams been on Regis & Kelly?  If not, sorry to say but that may be an indication for sure that it's Rob & Amber that are being eliminated.  I checked the website, but not real close.  At least last Monday a TAR All-Star team was not on.
If I recall right only the winners appear on Regis but TAR7 Rob and Amber were on the show, not Uchenna & Joyce. For some reason I think Mary & David were on TAR10 but am not sure?

I didn't word that right.  I should have put "first 3 eliminated" instead of "other".

What I was trying to convey is that it's not usual for a non winning TAR team to be on Regis.  Eliminated non winning TAR teams are on Early Show.  For a non winner to be on Regis and Kelly seems like BIG news and Rob & Amber being eliminated so early in the show is BIG news.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 10, 2007, 01:09:00 AM
Here it is  (http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=194957&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=6365206)
Episode Detail: Regis and Kelly - Regis & Kelly
Jim Belushi; the latest “Amazing Race: All-Stars” castoff.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: gingerman28 on March 10, 2007, 09:41:22 AM
Here it is  (http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=194957&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=6365206)
Episode Detail: Regis and Kelly - Regis & Kelly
Jim Belushi; the latest “Amazing Race: All-Stars” castoff.

That almost screams Rob and Amber aloud for all to hear.  No other team would be picked up by Regis at this stage of the game; the winner maybe in May, but not now.  Rob and Amber have some pizzazz right now.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: gingerman28 on March 10, 2007, 09:46:52 AM
Could the ROADBLOCK task take place at the Southern Most Postoffice DEL MUNDO (of the world) be that one team member must find a number of letters addressed to each of the countries represented by flags on the walls?

Or has someone already commented on this?
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Big Papi on March 10, 2007, 10:08:39 AM
Could the ROADBLOCK task take place at the Southern Most Postoffice DEL MUNDO (of the world) be that one team member must find a number of letters addressed to each of the countries represented by flags on the walls?

Or has someone already commented on this?

That appears to be the case from watching the video of Rob and Mirna in the post office. The video shows Charla attempting to help Mirna and Rob says "You can't be talking to her" whereupon Mirna tells Rob to "Shut the hell up?" That editing may lead one to believe that the race to the mat will be between Romber and Mirna, not U/J, dragging Charla through the mud.

eta: This may be why Phil says the race will "change" forever? Maybe the roadblock will have to be performed by the person doing it without any help from their partner.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: xRyannex on March 10, 2007, 11:11:45 AM
I definitely see the finish coming between Schmirna and Romber.

There has been no speak between the rivalry of Romber and U/J, so 95% of viewers won't even remember their feud.

But Charla/Mirna makies it such a more entertaining ending.

Romber, the team with all 1st places vs. Schmirna, who have done horrible this season

events leading up to it:
-taxi cab altercation
-charla confronting amber on the dock
-mirna telling rob to shut the hell up

And in the end, the underdogs will beat Romber; thus, opening the door for a new team to win the race and the race will be forever changed!

at least that's what I'm predicting from the previews..
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 10, 2007, 11:16:41 AM
xRyannex, that sounds about right!  :-\it'll be weird to see Rob and Amber go, they've done so well!

Oh well - they are just making way for the BQs to prove that boot-list wrong now! :D
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: gingerman28 on March 10, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Whatever Puddin wants, Puddin gets :happy:

And her boot list is NEVER wrong :jumpy:

Love ya, darlin :hearts:
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: michael on March 10, 2007, 12:08:18 PM
Quote
And her boot list is NEVER wrong

We'll see about that IN MAY!
DUN DUN DUN

I love you guys:P I just love playing the Devils Advocate equally as much!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Jetgabriel on March 11, 2007, 09:15:54 AM
At the Preview Of EP4 with Phil,what was Rob and Amber doing with the paint? (0:42:43)
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: gingerman28 on March 11, 2007, 10:23:47 AM
Looks like they are painting the names of places in the world on sign markers, then they must be mounted on a pole and pointed in the correct direction based upon the info they have and the compass they get for the task.

Looks to me like one half of a DETOUR; what is the other task?

ROADBLOCK is the post office mail sorting.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 12:38:42 PM
Look at what I received in the mail.  It is a travel mag for RCI.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 11, 2007, 03:01:21 PM
Look at what I received in the mail.  It is a travel mag for RCI.

CHATEAU, you probably know this already: What the DETOUR is Punta Arenas apears to about is taking information from a map of the voyage of Ferdinand Magellan(almost surely the round-the-world one), painting individual signs of places on that voyage, placing them on a tall pole, and orienting them using the compass to have each of them point in the correct direction. It may also involve having the distance from Punta Areans to that place on each sign. The total effect will be quite similar to the sign pole in your photo.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 03:06:30 PM
Thank you for sharing the picture Chateau!! and good call on the sign painting! Same goes for Slowhatch calling the Magellan map as well as Isla Redonda :werock:

bump..
"No Babies on the Race!"
Clues:

**Another team reaches meltdown point when one member feels put upon by another.

Teams arrive at Playa Petrohué:
1) Rob/Amber
2) Uchenna/Joyce
3) Eric/Danielle
4) Dustin/Kandice
5) Teri/Ian
6) Danny/Oswald
7) Charla/Mirna
8.) Joe/Bill

Detour
Clues: **Confusion at the detour puts one team's race chances in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them. Will they recover in time to stay in contention?
**Confusion at the detour puts one team in peril when a long standing rival overtakes them.

Distance Poles
Chateau d if :They are setting up Distance Poles on Cerro de la Cruz in Punta Arenas
This shot was taken between 12:16 and12:24 pm (assumes November 25th)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00073-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0019.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0030.jpg) Romber

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00093-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00113-5-2007.jpg) Uchenna/ Joyce

Chateau d if:
This clip was taken between 2:59 and 3:18 pm (assumes November 26th)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_00322-12-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_00352-12-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00173-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00183-5-2007.jpg) Charla/Mirna

compass's/maps thanks to Slowhatch
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00193-5-2007.jpg)

georgiapeach: Magellan's statue/ Plaza Munoz Gamera

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_indexCAKIAVYZ.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0015.jpg) Romber & the BQ's with compass's & map

Chateau d if : This picture was taken here between 1:15 and 1:45 pm  (assumes November 25th)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0016.jpg)

Slowhatch:  There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_promorob.jpg)

Slowhatch: this shot from GE (Panoramio), Cerro de la Cruz.
Chateau d if: This shot on Cerro de la Cruz was taken between 1:37 and 2:01 pm  (assumes November 25th)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/th_13Feb0014.jpg) Dani/Eric with a map
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00293-5-2007.jpg) Teri/Ian  with a map
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00313-5-2007.jpg) Cha's with a  map

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0022.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0026.jpg) Eric/Dee with the Cha's

Tierra del Fuego Nacional Park- Ushuaia, Argentina     ( not sure what the task is yet? maybe to get a clue to the roadblock?)
Clues:  **Teams travel to the End of the World in order to recieve their next clue.
---While Amber and Rob attempt their fourth first place finish.
**Lies and deceit catch up with one team at the End of the World. Is this the end of the race for them?

Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174561.html#msg174561) posts a travel pod  blog (http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/guest.pl?tweb_tripID=southern_living&tweb_UID=pattyv&tweb_entryID=1164755340&tweb_guest_password=&tweb_PID=tpod): with pictures of Eric & Danelle.
Chateau d if (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174622.html#msg174622) also spots Danny & Oswald in the Zodiac boat with Eric & Danielle.

Tierra del Fuego Nacional Park. We did a few small treks and at the southern most point of the park where Route 3 ends, we ran into contestants from the AMAZING RACE!!! (that might be the most exciting thing we saw in Ushuaia) Dave and I tried to run and get in on the action but we were ignored. PS, it is soooo staged. I don't have many pics because I need my battery to last longer

click on the thumbnails:
This picture was taken between 11:40 am and 12:12 pm (assumes November 26th)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02127.jpg) Eric/Dee with the Cha's at the docks Bahia Lapataia , found by Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174572.html#msg174572) sharing a ride in a Zodiac.

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0081.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0084.jpg) Romber steal's Shmirna's taxi
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0087.jpg)Shmirna calls Amber a liar at the docks Bahia Lapataia , found by Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174572.html#msg174572)

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0088.jpg) Romber/Shmirna/Uchenna & Joyce
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00373-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00383-5-2007.jpg) Romber and U/J share their ride in the Zodiac.
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00343-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00353-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00253-5-2007.jpg)Guidos
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00203-5-2007.jpg)  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00213-5-2007.jpg) BQ's and the Guido's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00243-5-2007.jpg) BQ's grabbing a number at the Bahia Lapataia docks.

Roadblock/ Going Postal, Isla Redonda
some teams running with a red clue in hand
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00023-5-2007.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0098.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0040.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0036.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0033.jpg)Shmirna
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0096.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0037.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_07Mar0035.jpg)Romber
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0097.jpg) Ucheena & Joyce
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0095.jpg) BQ's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0093.jpg) Eric/Dee
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0091.jpg) the Cha's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0092.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_08Mar0001.jpg) Guido's

pitstop/Isla Redonda
Clue: **The race gets tense as lies and treachery take a foothold in a temporary alliance and critical mistakes are made.
**After reluctantly agreeing to work together with another team, treachery ensues and one team makes a critical error.
Phil:   and you won't want to miss the ending that will have everyone talking

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0094.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0090.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_indexCA7D65EO.jpg)(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/sub4/th_pitstopview.jpg) another view of the Pitstop on Isla Redonda

misc..

airport shots
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00003-5-2007.jpg) The Cha's & U/J
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00143-5-2007.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0079.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_index.jpg)Slowhatch: The new airport at Ushuaia has the same sort of wood/masonry design.

cars and taxi's
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00013-5-2007.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00133-5-2007.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0081.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_04Mar0084.jpg)
(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00163-5-2007.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP4/th_00153-5-2007.jpg) ( BQ'S)

Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
About the distance pole task I had originally made a bad call that Charla was hauling the pole from the Magellan statue.

From the times I think they go from the pole task down to the Magellan statue.  Plus that is the direction the Chas and E&D are going.

Charla probably just has to go up a set of stairs and a path.

Also, I don't see the compass playing a role yet in the pole task.  I think they just have to get the East/West part right.  Romber has it 'incorrect' with all pointers going to the East.  No distance values are given on the signs either.  Dumbed down don't you think?
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
This time est supercedes the previous one of 'between 12:44 and1:17 pm' since now I can place a strong visual feature on the GE map

This shot was taken between 12:16 and12:24 pm (assumes November 25th)

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 04:12:59 PM
Gotcha Chateau  :jam:

As noted up thread the BQ's with some red paint on their jackets

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 11, 2007, 04:15:24 PM
..........
And Romber with the BQ's at Magellans statue Punta Arenas

Chateau d if : This picture was taken here between 1:15 and 1:45 pm (assumes November 25th)

Maybe Romber & the BQ's switched detours?  ???

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 11, 2007, 04:17:38 PM
This shot was taken between 12:39 and12:51 pm (assumes November 25th)

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: makz3d on March 11, 2007, 06:48:06 PM
From what I can tell the 2 flags in Rob's picture are Canadian and Italian.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2007, 02:01:14 AM
Nautilus (http://www.nautilus.cl/) is #803 Boliviana, which makes the map walk a 4-block straight shot from the plaza.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 12, 2007, 09:43:48 AM
The 1999 postmaster and the greeter...same guy? I have doubts.

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: puddin on March 12, 2007, 10:07:10 AM
It's really close Slowhatch .. if only we can remove the hat.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: gingerman28 on March 12, 2007, 11:41:32 AM
What made the signpost task so hard?  All you had to do was follow the red line and arrow on the map and write down the places in order as they appeared.  And how could you misspell a name when it was printed right there in front of your nose?

That was a pretty long gap between charters - three hours!  Didn't give the bottom feeders much of a chance. Usually, in the past, the gap was only 30 minutes or less.  The flight itself took 2:45.  So the five teams on the second flight did not arrive at Playa Larga until after 1:45PM.

How much longer can Schmirna keep it up?  They keep coming in next to last, but they are following the cardinal rule of TAR: Keep one team behind you!

Rob and Amber confirmed on TES this morning that Sequesterville was in Acapulco.  They had three weeks there to sleep late, eat good food, and bask on the white sands of Acapulco Bay while the other racers were chasing rats, grabbing what sleep they can when the can, and grabbing food on the run.  Not bad deal for the losers!

Were they giving something away when they said that we should watch the Beauty Queens since they really do run a good race?

And finally, Puddin's Boot List holds true for another week!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 12, 2007, 02:04:21 PM
What made the signpost task so hard?  All you had to do was follow the red line and arrow on the map and write down the places in order as they appeared.  And how could you misspell a name when it was printed right there in front of your nose?

How much longer can Schmirna keep it up?  They keep coming in next to last, but they are following the cardinal rule of TAR: Keep one team behind you!

Rob and Amber confirmed on TES this morning that Sequesterville was in Acapulco.  They had three weeks there to sleep late, eat good food, and bask on the white sands of Acapulco Bay while the other racers were chasing rats, grabbing what sleep they can when the can, and grabbing food on the run.  Not bad deal for the losers!

GMAN, I agree with you but on the FINISH LINE Rob claimed that the directions for the task were not as clear as Phil stated them on TV. He said that the directions given indicated that the direction of the signs were important (vs. Phil saying they weren't) and the spelling accuracy was not mentioned. It is instructive to note that with a basic knowledge of map reading a team could easily get the west or east pointing direction correct. Then the key was to gete the correct starting point, which Rob/Amber had but Uchenna/Joyce struggled with before eventually getting it right. Copying the place names one by one with correct spelling is a test of attention to detail, which is why Amber should have been doing that and not Rob. Dustin/Kandice appeared to be totally clueless on how the do the task correctly. My hat is off to Uchenna/Joyce, the only team to do this right, although it did cost them a place on the first charter flight versus the teams who had done the other DETOUR.

On the subject of Squesterville, just see this week's ELIMINATION STATION video.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: qing_her on March 13, 2007, 01:11:59 AM
:(
all because of my dear PHILIPPINES

:rotf:

I STILL LOVE ROMBER!
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: mswood on March 13, 2007, 01:29:58 AM
Question:  I know Eric read the episodes quote.  But who actually wrote it?  Was it Dani or Jeremy.  I think Dani.

And and hey, Puddin the Hippies even got a little shout out from them in their letter.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: Slowhatch on March 13, 2007, 05:11:49 PM
Fwiw, the pit stop restaurant looks like a match (chairs, windows, drapes, chandeliers, wooden columns) for the Temaukel restaurant (photo source (http://reservations.lodging.com/servlet/reservations.PropertyInformationXML?propcode=GTA;252647&remote=ASE&servepop=)) at the Hotel Del Glaciar (http://www.giganetglobal.com/english/index.asp).

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Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2007, 06:23:37 PM
SLOWHATCH, I think you've got it on decor match. Also, that would be an excellent place from which to do a glacier activity since it is at the foot of the Martial Glacier 3 km from downtown Ushuaia and 3km from the Airport.
Title: Re: EP4: "No Babies on the Race!"
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2007, 06:31:58 PM
Here's an interesting tidbit from a RealityNewsOnline interview on 3/12/07 of Rob and Amber:

Rob: I never found the letter. After it was all said and done, and Charla & Mirna were gone and crossed the finish line, I got the letter off of somebody else’s table. I never found the letter in my bag.

This supports the theory that I saw on another forum that there had to be 16 letters (two for each team) in every mail bag. It is probable that the letters written by the teams from the same seasons were copied so that they were identical in each bag, but maybe each of those teams actually wrote 16 letters.