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Title: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 03:40:20 PM
I'll work on bringing some stuff over here soon. Feel free to pitch in  :rotf:

Atacama Desert, Chile ( November 22/23 ?)
CBS press
Sunday, Feb. 25 
(8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)             
THE AMAZING RACE:  ALL-STARS -- The second team is eliminated in Chile.
 

USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-01-15-amazing-race_x.htm)
** How did Race challenge contestants who knew the drill? "We had to throw them curveball after curveball, because they all thought they knew what we were doing again," Van Munster says. So the 45,000-mile, 28-day race, which ended Dec. 19, sent them "from extreme cold to extreme heat," a desert in northern Chile to "borderline South Pole" in Antarctica.

Slowhatch (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.msg174586.html#msg174586) finds yet another Blog entry:  (http://sarahinsouthamerica.blogspot.com/2006_11_01_archive.html)
San Pedro de Atacama (http://www.sanpedroatacama.com/ingles/visitar.htm) ( posted on 11/23 )
**Apparently Amazing race is in town today, so we´re going to sniff that out.

press pictures:
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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 03:47:46 PM
The flooring seems to match SCL in Santiago (cap and Flickr source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lauriebell25/120907089/)).

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 03:50:26 PM
Quto airport

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: mswood on February 12, 2007, 07:36:56 PM
Ewww

I wonder who said this title, and I wonder who its about?

If its a bout a racer?  he hee.  Snarky.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 12:05:10 AM
re-adding these

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - Danielle (left) and Eric (right), dating teammates from Staten Island, N.Y. and Deerfield Beach, Fla. respectively, attempt to purchase airline tickets to their next destination. (11/22)

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS -- Teammates David and Mary (left) and teammates Charla and Mirna (right) attempt to coordinate their travel plans during THE AMAZING RACE: (11/22)

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - Married teammates Rob and Amber from Pensacola, Fla., pause to read a clue during THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS. (11/22)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 01:20:51 AM
What is this place where Romber is?  Roadblock in a courtroom?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 13, 2007, 11:20:34 AM
What is this place where Romber is?  Roadblock in a courtroom?

I don't know but it looks like there are all kinds of colors (yellow, blue, red, purple) all stuck together along with the white instruction page.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 13, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
What is this place where Romber is?  Roadblock in a courtroom?

I don't know but it looks like there are all kinds of colors (yellow, blue, red, purple) all stuck together along with the white instruction page.

I think the purple thing might be a guide book or maybe of the area or maybe of the court house so they can find thing (Possibly the road block like TAR9 in the prison
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 01:57:57 PM
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I think the purple thing might be a guide book


or maybe an airline ticket holder?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 13, 2007, 01:58:52 PM
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I think the purple thing might be a guide book


or maybe an airline ticket holder?

 Yeah, never thought of that
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: mswood on February 13, 2007, 08:54:51 PM
Thats what it looks like to me as well.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 10:11:59 PM
Thats what it looks like to me as well.
Well Eric & Dee are at the TACA  (http://www.taca.com/eng/cus/clan/clanmen.asp) counter in the one pic then we have Kentucky w/ Charla & Mirna and we know this is the Quito Airport too so maybe we can find that area in the Quito airport?

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 10:26:13 PM
^^ Maybe its a hotel lobby?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: qing_her on February 14, 2007, 01:04:55 AM
Is the episode title confirmed?

Yeah it might be a hotel lobby :)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gator27 on February 16, 2007, 11:46:22 AM
Is the episode title confirmed?


The title is confirmed on TV Guide.com.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Tritium on February 18, 2007, 08:09:14 PM
Title sounds directed at the BQs.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 08:25:44 PM
From the previews  I think the title is Charla & Mirna

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: xRyannex on February 18, 2007, 08:43:11 PM
Do you guys think there is an intersection?

Charla was telling Dustin to, "MAKE A DECISION!"?

Why would Charla care what decision Dustin makes?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 08:50:34 PM
Do you guys think there is an intersection?

Charla was telling Dustin to, "MAKE A DECISION!"?

Why would Charla care what decision Dustin makes?

they agree to split for a cab to show them how to go where ever and he leads them in the wrong directions?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: x_kicks on February 18, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Are Charla and Mirna going to pull a Lyn and Karlyn last season, who abandoned the Chos after they kept wasting time getting lost?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 09:36:56 PM
....Rob is making us a youtube
eta:I just checked and youtube is acting up again  :meow:

NEXT ON ... THE AMAZING RACE:

Mary: Have you seen Rob and Amber?
Phil voice: All eyes are on beating Rob/Amber ...
Rob: They may be paranoid about where we are.
Mirna: That means he's on a better flight than us.

Phil voice: ... and Charla stands up to the Beauty Queens.
Standing on a road next to a man, arguing
Charla: What would you like to do?! Decide!!
Kandice:  Okay, chill out a second!

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 11:54:06 PM
....

Webclues:

**A roadside confrontation causes one team to give another team an ultimatum. Is this the end of their alliance?

**Racing to avoid elimination, four teams conduct a mad dash in 4x4's across the desert. Who will make it?

**On the way to the pitstop, one team misreads a clue and falls further behind. Is this the end for them?

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: qing_her on February 19, 2007, 07:02:34 AM
clue one is given from the preview: BQs and Cousins
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 10:35:16 AM
Ep2 promo .. link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=30426.49639937001)
Voice: The Amazing Race All-Stars have just taken off and already the favorites are falling behind.
* Uchenna & Joyce at the yanahurco hacienda pitstop*
* Guido jumping for joy in the mystery building*
* airplane*
* Teri & Ian at night in a taxi, Ian giving orders *
* Shots of Romber*
* Rob climbing into his car, probably leaving the hacienda*
* Rob & Amber on a plane with the Cha's*
* Romber waiting somewhere looking frustrated*
Rob: its a miserable game this race, you go from being in first place to last place
*4x4's racing*
* teams dashing up the mystery building steps*
* teams running to the clue box in the mystery building*
* Dustin driving a 4x4*
Dustin: if we go the wrong way, we could be ( it?)
* 4x4's almost crashing?*
* teams running through a parking lot?*
Voice: the road to rich's
* Mirna driving *
Mirna: Go Go Go
* more 4x4's racing*
Voice: is paved with mud
* the Frats hacienda vehicle? stuck in the mud*
Frat Voice: (?...)you hook it to me And I'm going to tow us out
" Drew Drew Drew!!! "
Voice: sweat
* someone maybe changing a tire? roadblock?*
* Cha's, Danny driving*
Danny: just look at my nails, my manicurist is going to be so angry with me
Voice:and tears
* Charla/Mirna and the BQ's on the side of the road*
* Mirna shoves a bag into the man*
Mirna/Charla:(? heres your space) what would you like to do! you decide!"


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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 10:36:33 AM
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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 10:55:12 AM
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the end
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Rob on February 19, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
Here is the preview from last night. THANK YOU YOUTUBE FOR TAKING FOREVER TO GET THIS VIDEO UP

Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 12:14:31 PM
Here are some Quto museums  (http://www.inquito.com/museums.htm) if that where they are going for the clue box?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 12:39:17 PM
Well it has elevators or maybe its just a door afterall  :lol:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0013.jpg)

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 01:01:14 PM
Pictures (http://gosouthamerica.about.com/library/blChilepixChuquipit.htm) of Chile
Chuquicamata Open Pit Mine, Atacama Desert

San Pedro de Atacama, Chile - Trek and Drive Tour (http://gosouthamerica.about.com/od/calama/ss/SPedrotrek.htm)

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 01:11:12 PM
Chuquicamata /San Pedro pictures  (http://www.ster.kuleuven.be/~rachel/chile2.html)




Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 01:17:12 PM
some kind of nautical museum ?

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 19, 2007, 01:42:04 PM
A NOTE ON TIME ZONES IN SOUTH AMERICA

Quito is on the same time right now as EST.

Santiago and all of Chile, including PUNTA ARENAS, is on Daylight Time right now, with the net effect that they are 2 hours ahead of EST.

Ushuaia, Buenos Aires and all of Argentina is on standard time, 2 hours ahead of EST.

Brazil, relevant to AR11 only for Sao Paulo airport, is on Daylight time right now, with the net effect that it is 3 hours ahead of EST.

So, for the flights from USHUAIA, the first one to Buenos Aires will involve no time change, the second one from there to Sao Paulo will involve moving the clock one hour ahead, and then from Sao Paulo to Johannesburg(7 hours ahead of EST) the clock will have to be moved ahead another 4 hours. There is no time difference between Johannesburg and Maputo.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 19, 2007, 02:21:07 PM
Are dustin and kandice doing an intersection with charla and mirna in this episode? That's what it looks like...why would Charla be telling Dustin to make a decision?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 02:30:38 PM
I don't think so Mike. My take is they are following each other ( alliance ) and..they are lost and maybe are asking this man for directions and he isn't sure so Mirna shoves him and yells at the BQ's to decide which way to go. Or you are right and I am wrong.. :lol:. Waiting for more clues but I guess CBS is off for the Holiday  :snicker:

Webclues:

**A roadside confrontation causes one team to give another team an ultimatum. Is this the end of their alliance?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 02:39:20 PM
so this is the entrance to this place ..why can't I find it  :umn:!?

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Big Papi on February 19, 2007, 02:39:47 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 19, 2007, 02:50:02 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:

Erics My Space?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 19, 2007, 03:23:23 PM
hmm...maybe an Eric and Danielle rivalry with Dustin and Kandice is coming up!!

I wonder what Eric has to be so bitter about...maybe the BQs won *wishful thinking*
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 05:28:36 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:
lol Big Papi! Sometimes a rose is a rose right under your nose ...sweet   :sera:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 05:32:01 PM
So the purple " guide " is a guide to find a clue in this building or what ever the hell it is? Wish I could find it  (:;)
My guess is this is a task they have to do here is to get the clue that sends them to the Quito airport and then to San Pedro/Atacama desert and then to Chuquicamata Mine / Desert truck where they have to Change a tire? the roadblock?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0013.jpg)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: charlierose on February 19, 2007, 05:34:53 PM
so this is the entrance to this place ..why can't I find it  :umn:!?

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I think this place is in Chile.  They have a good reputation and several schools for Navy.  I am trying to find something there. 

There is Museum  called "Museo Naval y Maritimo de Punta  Arenas" in Chile. THis is in a town called Punta ARenas, close to the Tierra del Fuego National Park.  I cannot find pictures of the Museum, but this may be what we are looking for. Here is a map of the area (hope I do it right)

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 06:19:41 PM
Thanks for the help charlierose.. you would think it would be something simple to find  :lol:

sometimes little is better ..

and video

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 19, 2007, 08:03:26 PM
definitely some kind of nautical museum--that's a figurehead on the wall+ the ship model...

would make sense if it was something to do with the Straits of Magellan or Magellan himself...

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 19, 2007, 08:19:47 PM
The guard in the back wears the same kind of uniform as the guard in the counting room, and the walls do seem to match the earlier R/A cap (purple guidebook).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 19, 2007, 09:46:15 PM
charlierose, great find on the naval museum. You stated "THis is in a town called Punta Arenas, close to the Tierra del Fuego National Park.  I cannot find pictures of the Museum, but this may be what we are looking for. Here is a map of the area (hope I do it right)"

Your map is fine. I would caution you that PUNTA ARENAS is nowhere near Tierra del Fuego National Park, which is close to USHUAIA, Argentina. Perhaps you were thinking Tierra del Fuego Island, which can be seen across the Strait of Magellan from PUNTA ARENAS.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 10:11:48 PM
Isn't Punta Arenas and all that after EP2 Atacama desert?
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 19, 2007, 10:57:02 PM
Is the guy a taxi driver? Maybe they pooled their money to hire him and something went wrong.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 19, 2007, 11:02:29 PM
I've attached a kmz for Chuquicamata. It's only a dozen miles or so from Calama, the place Apskip mentioned for flights into the desert area. If you look closely into the mine, you can see the giant earthmovers going in and out of the pit.  :js:

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Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 11:32:29 PM
Good catch on the taxi Slowhatch  :tup: ..trying to think outside the box. To me it just looked like they were standing on a roadside in the middle of a desert.

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Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 11:58:04 PM
E/D & U/J

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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 12:01:10 AM
the Cha's & David ..what is that? Gas station? toll plaza  :lol: %$^$ CBS sucks

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Post by: makz3d on February 20, 2007, 05:40:43 AM
I think Charla wants BQs to share the cost of following a taxi.  I think BQs are reluctant to do it.  Charla may want all of their money or most of it.  Based on Charla giving the taxi driver all of their money on the first leg I feel that they will think nothing of using all of their money and then having to beg, if that will help them in the race.  The BQs are probably afraid to use all of their money and then have to beg for food or whatever.

The taxi driver must really want a lot to be their guide to wherever they are going.
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Post by: gator27 on February 20, 2007, 06:13:42 AM
charlierose, great find on the naval museum. You stated "THis is in a town called Punta Arenas, close to the Tierra del Fuego National Park.  I cannot find pictures of the Museum, but this may be what we are looking for. Here is a map of the area (hope I do it right)"

Your map if fine. I would caution you that PUNTA ARENAS is nowhere near Tierra del Fuego National Park, which is close to USHUAIA, Argentina. Perhaps you were thinking Tierra del Fuego Island, which can be seen across the Strait of Magellan from PUNTA ARENAS.

There is a Museo Naval in Valparaíso, Chile.  I can find the building on Google Earth, but no other pictures yet.

Do we think this museum is in Ecuador or Chile? (Kevin and Drew might think Peru)
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Post by: Big Papi on February 20, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
charlierose, great find on the naval museum. You stated "THis is in a town called Punta Arenas, close to the Tierra del Fuego National Park.  I cannot find pictures of the Museum, but this may be what we are looking for. Here is a map of the area (hope I do it right)"

Your map if fine. I would caution you that PUNTA ARENAS is nowhere near Tierra del Fuego National Park, which is close to USHUAIA, Argentina. Perhaps you were thinking Tierra del Fuego Island, which can be seen across the Strait of Magellan from PUNTA ARENAS.

There is a Museo Naval in Valparaíso, Chile.  I can find the building on Google Earth, but no other pictures yet.

Do we think this museum is in Ecuador or Chile? (Kevin and Drew might think Peru)

eta: En Ingles with links to other rooms/exibits.

http://www.armada.cl/site/tradicion_historia/tradicion/museonaval/ohiggin2.html

This is what I have found so far..

Interactive map: Not much but it shows Paseo 21 De Mayo

http://www.rutavalparaiso.cl/web/pag/cd2_en.htm

Naval and Maritime Museum

It possesses important relics that tell about the history of the Chilean Navy from 1818 to 1880. The seat of the Museum was the Chilean Navy School until 1967, when the last Naval ceremony took place there.
Address: Paseo 21 de Mayo
Telephone: (32) 437-651
Opening hours: from Tuesday to Sunday from 10 a.m. to 5.30 p.m.
Entrance fee: adults 500 pesos, children and pensioners 200 pesos


(http://www.vinayvalpo.com/images/about-valpo/305.jpg)

The Naval and Maritime Museum is an establishment aimed to protect, preserve and divulge to the public, the Chilean Naval and Maritime historical heritage.
The premises are located at Valparaiso, Chile, Paseo 21 de Mayo, a location where you may enjoy a spectacular view of the bay and harbor. The museum, occupying since 1967 part of a building that belonged to the ex- naval school, was reconditioned maintaining the original architectural design.

This link has phone numbers, email, etc.

http://www.armada.cl/site/tradicion_historia/tradicion/museonaval/intro.html
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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 10:09:38 AM
The problem I'm having is getting inside those museum doors  :lol:! Lots of facades...no indoors.
I wonder what really sits in the clue box spot? something pretty big?

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Post by: Kogs on February 20, 2007, 10:16:31 AM
The problem I'm having is getting inside those museum doors  :lol:! Lots of facades...no indoors.
I wonder what really sits in the clue box spot? something pretty big?

my guess is that statue holder thingy to the right
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Post by: Big Papi on February 20, 2007, 10:17:22 AM
The problem I'm having is getting inside those museum doors  :lol:! Lots of facades...no indoors.
I wonder what really sits in the clue box spot? something pretty big?

Where's georgiapeach  :whereru: (Telephone: (32) 437-651) ? Maybe there's a new Avi in her future.. :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 10:32:32 AM
Why I think the museum is in Ecuador  :angel:

Teams leave the piststop and drive themselves to Quito? somewhere? in the vehicles they came in. Of course the Frats get a new vehicle but again have troubles and get stuck in the mud.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/00152-19-2007.jpg)
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They are directed to find this building where they must match something? to get a clue that directs them to take a taxi to Quito airport and fly to Calama/ Atacama desert to do other tasks.
See its nightime ..
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Cha's and Romber are 2 teams we see on the flight..
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 From these pictures below it is now daylight ..can someone can tell me how long a flight from Quito to Calama would take?  :lol:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 10:50:58 AM
Kogs has a good point. It looks like they just moved the model ship out of the way to make room for the cluebox. Maybe the whole exhibit is about that ship and what it carried.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 20, 2007, 10:54:37 AM
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From these pictures below it is now daylight ..can someone can tell me how long a flight from Quito to Calama would take? 

Here you go.  Looks like about 13 hours.

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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 11:12:54 AM
The problem I'm having is getting inside those museum doors  :lol:! Lots of facades...no indoors.
I wonder what really sits in the clue box spot? something pretty big?

my guess is that statue holder thingy to the right
lol, reminds me of Tomb Raider!! I wonder why its so important? Maybe we should be looking for model shippy things?
and thanks Chateau for the times!!

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Post by: apskip on February 20, 2007, 11:19:38 AM
PUDDIN, your statement "Why I think the museum is in Ecuador 

Teams leave the piststop and drive themselves to Quito? somewhere? in the vehicles they came in. Of course the Frats get a new vehicle but again have troubles and get stuck in the mud."

makes no sense to me. No sane Ecuadorian would locate a naval museum in Quito 2 hours from the nearest significant body of water. It would be in Guayaquil, the seaport and largest city of Ecuador.

I have no quarrel with the naval museum in Valparaiso except that I don't believe the race will be diverted from Santiago airport and back just to allow a visit to that museum. With a perfectly good naval museum in PUNTA ARENAS where the race is going anyway, that is where we are likely to see AR11 visit a naval museum.
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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 11:26:13 AM
Maybe its a temporary exhibit :hides:?

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Post by: gator27 on February 20, 2007, 11:38:44 AM
The problem I'm having is getting inside those museum doors  :lol:! Lots of facades...no indoors.
I wonder what really sits in the clue box spot? something pretty big?

I like the cultural center that puddin found.  Googling "quito cultural metroploitan" I stumbled across a web site that list Quito museums.  Interestingly I found the following:

Centro Cultural Metropolitano

A great adventure to see Ecuador's past, including the XVIII century time when the Geodesic Mission visit the "Mitad del Mundo" to determine the exact location of the equatorial line.

Hours: Tuesday - Sunday: 10:00-18:00
Entrance Fee: $1.50; students $0.75; children $0.50
García Moreno & Espejo
Phone: (02) 2 584 362
Website: www.centrohistoricodequito.com


I am thinking the lines on the floor (where the clue box is located) represent the equator.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 11:45:54 AM
PUDDIN, your statement "Why I think the museum is in Ecuador 
makes no sense to me. No sane Ecuadorian would locate a naval museum in Quito 2 hours from the nearest significant body of water. It would be in Guayaquil, the seaport and largest city of Ecuador.
I have no quarrel with the naval museum in Valparaiso except that I don't believe the race will be diverted from Santiago airport and back just to allow a visit to that museum. With a perfectly good naval museum in PUNTA ARENAS where the race is going anyway, that is where we are likely to see AR11 visit a naval museum.
Oh I didn't know they went to PUNTA ARENAS in this leg? I'll have to read back. And I'm just looking around, I never claimed my theory to be right..I'm pretty sure we can speculate here? Isn't this how we try to put things together? And yes I have been looking around Guayaquil also but with no luck.
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Post by: apskip on February 20, 2007, 12:15:11 PM
OK, PUDDIN, you are right. I had missed something. I've been trying to put a naval museum into perspective, but that isn't what we need to do. The few naval objects are part of a much broader collection in a large museum and they must be in the Quito area because they are part of Episode 2. There won't be any such museums in Calama or San Pedro de Atacama.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
OK, PUDDIN, you are right. I had missed something. I've been trying to put a naval museum into perspective, but that isn't what we need to do. The few naval objects are part of a much broader collection in a large museum and they must be in the Quito area because they are part of Episode 2. There won't be any such museums in Calama or San Pedro de Atacama.
apskip, don't feel the need to agree with me. I am perfectly capable of making an idiot out of myself without bringing you down with me, thank you very much  :lol:
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Post by: charlierose on February 20, 2007, 01:16:39 PM
I continue with my museum in Chille theory. Like I said, CHile is well know for the NAval.  THey have several naval academies, that Latin AMerica kids go to. 

I dont think the Museum in Valparaiso is the one they go to. Valparaiso is way up north of Ushuai, etc. 

There is another Naval Museum called "Museo Naval Antártico Comodoro Federico Guesalaga Toro" on a Naval Base Arturo Prat on the Chilean Antartica. I asume it has to be close to Ushuai. I dont have any picture to pinpoint this Museum or the "Museo Naval y Marítimo de Punta Arenas" to be the ones the go.  Also we could look into Naval Academies, as another option.

Hope this helps.
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Post by: apskip on February 20, 2007, 01:36:28 PM
charlierose, to support your efforts I have done some research which has been successful on Naval Base Arturio Prat in the Chilean Antarctic. It is on Robert Island in the South Shetland Islands, third island south of King George Island. No, nobody is going to send the Amazing Race there to see its naval museum. However, if you want to learn more about it and can read Spanish, try this:   Naval Base Prat (http://www.geofisica.cl/papers/ignacio/ignacio.htm)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 02:28:25 PM
CBS Press release:

RACING TO AVOID ELIMINATION, FOUR TEAMS CONDUCT A MAD DASH IN 4x4's ACROSS THE DESERT WHERE FRUSTRATION AND ANGER BOIL OVER AND ALLIANCES ARE SHATTERED ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS" SUNDAY, FEB. 25, 8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
       "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep" -- One Team's daring attempts to outsmart the competition fall drastically when a chanced flight is delayed on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, airing Sunday, Feb. 25 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
 

This has Romber written all over it  :lol:
One Team's daring attempts to outsmart the competition fall drastically when a chanced flight is delayed on THE AMAZING RACE
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 02:38:36 PM
presents  ...looks like a Detour afterall !!

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 02:57:25 PM
When Mirna speculates about R/A having a better flight, they're standing in UIO. There's an American Deli in the International area. It's edited to look like R/A are already in a different airport ahead of the pack, but I haven't found a match for the background yet. (If teams have to change those tires without power tools, they should seriously consider the other option  ;D)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 20, 2007, 03:07:22 PM
The road sign in the promo says

S. P. de Atacama (arrow pointing ahead) (S P = San Pedro)
Parque
Valle de la Luna (http://www.welcomeargentina.com/paseos/valle_luna/index_i.html) (arrow to the right)

It looks like the same road that the BQs vs Charla & Mirna confrontation occurs.

And...I don't even have to break out the SEMA calculatios to say that that happened between noon and 1:00 pm.  That is because of the way the sun is so high up.  If the actual road position is found then I will be able to nail down the time to a few minutes because it goes from East to West in about one hour.

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 20, 2007, 03:14:53 PM
Okay here is the spot roughly.  I can't believe they get a taxi to go that far.

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 20, 2007, 03:27:23 PM
This clip  is ealy in the day.  So I would guess it is when they land at the Calama airport.  The other clip with at least four red SUVs on the road in the same place is with sun straight up.  So that's later on that they drive off at the same time.  Seams really strange.  Maybe they get the SUVs after the mining detour.

Finally we will have Dave in a mine!   :lol:

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 03:37:14 PM
My guess would be here (kmz attached). You can even see the roadsign. There's another turnoff to the east, but it's much closer to SP.

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Post by: michael on February 20, 2007, 03:43:16 PM
Is it possible that there is an Intersection in this episode?
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 20, 2007, 04:01:28 PM
Nice work Slowhatch.  I'll try to get the time for tht  later on.

I have cobbled together a guess at Romber's flight plan.  I bet they get hung up in Bogota!

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Post by: reality.tv. on February 20, 2007, 04:33:45 PM
Is it possible that there is an Intersection in this episode?

I'm thinking I mean if Charla & Mirna were following the BQ`s I mean wouldn't they leave becuase Charla seemed to be pretty mad if it wasnt a Intersection wouldnt they leave?
those are my thoughts  B:)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on February 20, 2007, 05:07:37 PM
hmm...maybe an Eric and Danielle rivalry with Dustin and Kandice is coming up!!

I wonder what Eric has to be so bitter about...maybe the BQs won *wishful thinking*
I know ;D
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Post by: Big Papi on February 20, 2007, 05:20:18 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:

Erics My Space?

Nope http://www.myspace.com/ericsancheztar9
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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 05:37:22 PM
Good stuff you guys! I took a run around Bogotá airport but haven't found any match's.

So ..do the Cha's follow Romber?

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The Cha's catch up to Mary & David anyway..at the mines
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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 05:40:41 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:

Erics My Space?

Nope http://www.myspace.com/ericsancheztar9

Straight from the horse's mouth?  ;)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Big Papi on February 20, 2007, 05:56:05 PM
Guess where I got this from: "God I hope Charla bites those bitches on the knees."  :lol3:

Erics My Space?

Nope http://www.myspace.com/ericsancheztar9

Straight from the horse's mouth?  ;)

Yep  :lol3:  ;)

There's nothing to this,  he's not bitter about anything. I should have responded to Mike sooner..sorry Mike..."hmm...maybe an Eric and Danielle rivalry with Dustin and Kandice is coming up!!

I wonder what Eric has to be so bitter about...maybe the BQs won *wishful thinking*

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Post by: michael on February 20, 2007, 06:06:23 PM
I have to admit though, if Dustin and Kandice don't win I'm pretty happy it's going to be Eric and Danielle...at first I wasn't into them but they seem like a really good team.

( I'm still praying the boot-list is wrong though  :angel: )
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Big Papi on February 20, 2007, 06:16:07 PM
I have to admit though, if Dustin and Kandice don't win I'm pretty happy it's going to be Eric and Danielle...at first I wasn't into them but they seem like a really good team.

( I'm still praying the boot-list is wrong though  :angel: )

Thanks Mike and keep praying. Of course I'm hoping that it is accurate and we will have an exciting finish with the spoiled F3. I wish your team the best of luck as well as all the other teams. I was sad to see JVJ eliminated and I'll be sad again next Sunday for sure. I can't imagine standing in front of Phil in that situation.
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Post by: michael on February 20, 2007, 06:19:06 PM
Yeah it must suck for all the teams that go early, they were probably so excited to get a second chance. Good luck to your team too :)!
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Post by: apskip on February 20, 2007, 09:25:16 PM
SLOWHATCH and PUDDIN, please try LIMA and PANAMA CITY. They are the 2 most likely connecting airports to get to Santiago.  "When Mirna speculates about R/A having a better flight, they're standing in UIO. There's an American Deli in the International area. It's edited to look like R/A are already in a different airport ahead of the pack, but I haven't found a match for the background yet."

CHATEAU, your theory about a 630am flight to BOGOTA does not make good sense since nobody could possibly get to QUITO airport in time for a 630am departure. They would have to leave Hacienda Yanahurco about 1am for the 4 hour trip plus have no tasks to do in the Quito area (which is highly unlikely given the museum search that has been going on). The earliest that Romber could have finished was about 2pm given the time for the ride to Hacienda Yanahurco starting from 7am plus the time spent on the search for the button in the field plus the Wrangle task time and walk up the hill.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 10:21:23 PM
Not much luck with Lima or Panama. At least we can take comfort in the fact that they'll be taking off from LA again: runway 7L-25R.  :lol:

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 10:37:02 PM
I don't know...most of the South America museums I've looked at have a "colonial" style, while this place has a more modern urban look to it. Puddin may be right, it could just be a temporary exhibit somewhere. Whatever it is, it has "co" in the title (look above his head).

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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 10:37:43 PM
Not much luck with Lima or Panama. At least we can take comfort in the fact that they'll be taking off from LA again: runway 7L-25R.  :lol:
Those cheap sonamabatchs  :lol:!!

Slowhatch (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/sultan.gif)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2007, 11:07:28 PM
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Where's georgiapeach   (Telephone: (32) 437-651) ? Maybe there's a new Avi in her future..


peach is having a little break and is sitting under a :beach: palm tree with an apple martini in her hand! :lol: :martini:
But with a few free international minutes--I'm always willing to call anywhere, anytime!


This museum thing is driving me nuts! and I haven't had as much time as I would like to go looking...

But here are some thoughts...

First, is there ANY possibility that we are seeing a "blended" preview--with info from another episode? We got one earlier promo with both old and new info...This would give us a few more places to look...

I agree Slowhatch--That street looks very "urban" to me...is there any possibility that our guys could do a task in Santiago or is that strictly a change plane place?

I like the cutural center puddin found--will search for special exhibits...

I keep thinking that somewhere (maybe Punta?) near the Magellean straits  would make sense for a nautical/maritime task...

Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 20, 2007, 11:16:56 PM
Peach, Puddin found a link to Ep 1 if you're still interested. The quality's not great but if the vhs project doesn't pan out it's better than nothing.  :beer2:  (I tried a PM but your inbox was full).
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Post by: puddin on February 20, 2007, 11:29:13 PM
peach...can you get some sun and a shot of tequila for me?  :margarita:
I'm not convinced yet that the Museum/Exhibit whatever is somewhere out of the Ecuador area and also don't think BVM would send them back to Old Quito ..i'm still hunting :nut:

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2007, 11:34:23 PM
Thanks Slowhatch...I'd still love that info for Whirley!

I'll go do some editing on the inbox--thanks for letting me know!

(Y'all just have to quit sending me such nice messages that I hate to erase! See-it is all y'alls fault! :lol:)

Puddin
--I thought of you shovelling snow today as i was enjoying the gorgeous 76 degree weather!
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Post by: Kogs on February 20, 2007, 11:43:45 PM
Thanks Slowhatch...I'd still love that info for Whirley!

Puddin
--I thought of you shovelling snow today as i was enjoying the gorgeous 76 degree weather!

I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL J/K. i was breaking this ice skating ring that was my driveway today and im sore as hell, just for bragging about the better weather peach call the sf film office and see if that botanical gardens was the only place they used
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 21, 2007, 12:10:34 AM
Apskip, I think there is time to make the flight:

This shot was taken between 11:30 and 11:35 am (assumes November 21st).

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 21, 2007, 12:53:41 AM
This shot was taken between 11:33 am and 12:16 pm (assumes November 23rd).

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 21, 2007, 09:24:27 AM
This shot was taken between 11:33 am and 12:16 pm (assumes November 23rd).

CHATEAU, my assumptions about flights gets teams into the area where this sign is at about the right time. The flights from Santiago would be at 645am or 705am, arriving Calama at 845am or 910am. The distance from Calama to some miles short of San Pedro de Atacama where this sign is would take about 2 hours after camera/soundman deplaning. This would be much more within the spirit of Amazing Race bunching created by having a hours-of-operation task in Quito prior to releasing teams to the airport, which would prevent them from getting a flight that gets them to Calama same day. It is possible that there is no Quito task and Rob/Amber do attempt a breakaway, but I consider more probable that they do that later in the day and do not succeed in getting any further than the Santiago airport. As long as a team gets out of Quito on the 1805 flight to LIMA, they should make connections for the 0645 flight Santiago to Calama. Any earlier flights don't gain them anything except a longer wait in Santiago airport.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 21, 2007, 09:37:59 AM
SLOWHATCH, I'm normally pretty quick on the uptake, but I am mystified by this:

"Not much luck with Lima or Panama. At least we can take comfort in the fact that they'll be taking off from LA again: runway 7L-25R" 

You couldn't possibly mean Los Angeles for LA. What does LA mean? Could it mean that the runway marker in this picture is the same as one you are familiar with in Los Angeles even though this is not the Los Angeles International Airport?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 21, 2007, 11:43:44 AM
He's just referring to that editor practice of splicing in aircraft footage from willy nilly locations.

For example, we see Colin & Cristie's plane take of from Paris in almost every season since.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 21, 2007, 11:46:57 AM
I've been meaning to check and don't have time right now ..can someone check EP1 for that shot of the Cha's & Romber together on the plane? is it recycled?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: mswood on February 21, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
While Rob and Amber are in the same clothes, and the seats look very similar (color and possible pattern), and ROb & Amber are seated on the same side of the plane.

In this shot (the one for this episode?), One of the Cha's (who is the taller thinner one Oswald?), is wearing what appears to be a white tea shirt.

In the first part of the first episode (to airport on plane, out of airport and to Pim's)  he is wearing no white under shirt/tea shirt.  But it is the clothes he wore for the next day in checking in to the Hacienda (well at elast a white tea shirt there. 

So I vote a new shot of a different flight.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 21, 2007, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: Chateau
This shot was taken between 11:30 and 11:35 am (assumes November 21st). (Romber)
The editors may try to generate some drama, but if Kevin/Drew are still fixing their ride (good way to mess up your back) during the daylight hours (assuming the cotopaxi region) then they're so far behind that they'll never be a factor in this leg.

Amendment: it might be an 18 or 24 hour pitstop to prevent people from driving around the area in the dark.  :-[

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gator27 on February 21, 2007, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Chateau
This shot was taken between 11:30 and 11:35 am (assumes November 21st). (Romber)
The editors may try to generate some drama, but if Kevin/Drew are still fixing their ride (good way to mess up your back) during the daylight hours (assuming the cotopaxi region) then they're so far behind that they'll never be a factor in this leg.

I wonder if Kevin & Drew can fix the flat tire during their mandatory rest period or if they must wait until they are racing again?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 21, 2007, 02:26:26 PM
I don't think they will have to lift a finger. 

But Slowhatch raised a very good point with the dark driving concerns.    ???
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 21, 2007, 04:04:32 PM
thanks mswood ..duh to me it is a new shot.

and heres some better pics for EP2 from tarflies gallery as well

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: banzai on February 21, 2007, 06:25:48 PM
Code: [Select]
http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=285452&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=6364273
Episode Detail: Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep - Amazing Race: All-Stars
The 10 remaining teams begin the second leg of the race in Ecuador. Later, they race across a desert in 4x4s. On the way to the pit stop, one duo misread a clue that could lead to their elimination. Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: banzai on February 21, 2007, 06:27:19 PM
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20070220cbs10
 
AMAZING RACE, THE
Air Date: Sunday, February 25, 2007
Time Slot: 8:00 PM-9:00 PM EST on CBS
Episode Title: (#1102) "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep" 
 
 
 
RACING TO AVOID ELIMINATION, FOUR TEAMS CONDUCT A MAD DASH IN 4x4's ACROSS THE DESERT WHERE FRUSTRATION AND ANGER BOIL OVER AND ALLIANCES ARE SHATTERED ON "THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS" SUNDAY, FEB. 25, 8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK 
 
"Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep" -- One Team's daring attempts to outsmart the competition fall drastically when a chanced flight is delayed on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, airing Sunday, Feb. 25 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: banzai on February 21, 2007, 06:45:26 PM
I think the website spells wrong: fall should be fail. In the AOL clue, they say "fail"
http://tvshows.aol.com/show/the-amazing-race-all-stars/SH8977320000/main

‘Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep’ 

One team's attempt to outsmart the competition fails when a chanced flight is delayed.
Date: Sun., Feb. 25, 2007
Time: 8:00PM
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http://www.tv.com/the-amazing-race/show/6686/summary.html
Next episode: Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep
The ten remaining All-Star teams continue on in the second leg of the race. Many teams focus their attention on Rob and Amber following their first-place finish in the previous leg. Charla gets into an argument with the "Beauty Queens" Dustin and Kandice.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Kogs on February 21, 2007, 07:31:10 PM
umm banzai we know what will happen this episode  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 21, 2007, 07:37:09 PM
Keep the stuff coming banzai, I like it and read it :happy:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 21, 2007, 09:28:20 PM
...
aside from the obvious detour clue Mirna is holding ...it looks like Mary & David catch the same flight as Romber & The Cha's? along with maybe one more team..

**Racing to avoid elimination, four teams conduct a mad dash in 4x4's across the desert. Who will make it?

**On the way to the pitstop, one team misreads a clue and falls further behind. Is this the end for them?

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Kogs on February 21, 2007, 10:49:46 PM
wow so they are actually adding tar to innertube????????
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: banzai on February 22, 2007, 01:34:52 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/6SradUQF51WNW8YdQ

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/5QlIU3jomJ2SI8YdZ
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 01:41:47 PM
I don't know...most of the South America museums I've looked at have a "colonial" style, while this place has a more modern urban look to it. Puddin may be right, it could just be a temporary exhibit somewhere. Whatever it is, it has "co" in the title (look above his head).
As in Banco (http://socrates.homelinux.org/gallery/Ecuador?page=3)? I'm having a hard time getting inside this building, lol.

And now I'm thinking Romber is not the duo risking a flight.. it makes no sense since we see them on board with the Cha's and Rob is looking like he is looking at someone coming down the aisle and I think in the background I see Mary but am not sure?

eta: this but am confused? I think, link  (http://www.museos-ecuador.com/bce/html/default.htm), there are two Banco museums with the one I'm thinking of is the converted Bank.

edited again to add, this  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardpluck/219978812/) is the place I'm thinking of.
"Former 'Central bank of Ecuador' building - now a museum"
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 02:20:17 PM
another picture here  (http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/1081e6/) "El Banco Central"

just to compare ..

too many steps?  :lol: Maybe theirs another entrance  :angel:

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on February 22, 2007, 04:15:05 PM
so who r the final 3 teamz again??? sryy i havent been on here 4 a long time,lol
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 04:40:33 PM
Charla/Mirna
The BQ's
Eric/Dee


That building is not the same :wall:  :knuckles:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 22, 2007, 04:44:35 PM
hehe, Go BQS! :happy:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Boingo on February 22, 2007, 05:07:41 PM
That building is not the same :wall:  :knuckles:

 >:(  I agree...  assuming you know the city, it kinda looks like a "polished" (red) stone building, modern looking, with a decorated sidewalk design.   :groan:  Oh yeah, that narrows it down.....   :lol:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 05:27:11 PM
That building is not the same :wall:  :knuckles:

 >:(  I agree...  assuming you know the city, it kinda looks like a "polished" (red) stone building, modern looking, with a decorated sidewalk design.   :groan:  Oh yeah, that narrows it down.....   :lol:
Kill me...Kill me now  :lol:

 I will not give up the ship  :kogs
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 22, 2007, 07:35:43 PM
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I will not give up the ship  :kogs
How about sailing the ship to Santiago? If the ranch departures are staggered so that driving is during daylight hours, and if the drive to Quito takes 3 or more hours, then racers probably won't reach Santiago until late evening.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 22, 2007, 07:48:50 PM
SLOWHATCH, your math is impeccable, but your nautical approach will be jeopardized by a 2 hour overland sail to reach the coast of Ecuador. The teams could find this a bit daunting, followed by about 1400 miles at sea to ARICA, Chile, then 500 miles by car to CALAMA. I bet they decide to take the planes instead.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 22, 2007, 08:11:20 PM
I apologize if I was unclear; it was just a long-winded way of asking Puddin to consider the possibility that the bank/museum thing might be in Santiago (since the teams enter at night).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
Quote
I will not give up the ship  :kogs
How about sailing the ship to Santiago? If the ranch departures are staggered so that driving is during daylight hours, and if the drive to Quito takes 3 or more hours, then racers probably won't reach Santiago until late evening.
Slowhatch I'm back in Guayaquil now but have no idea if this even makes any sense  :rotf:? It's really pretty to look at and has lots of those "decorated sidewalk designs" that Boingo mentioned. Also it has its own airport but I know you all know that already :lol: .. I'm just rambling... maybe you all can tell me if Guayaquil is even a possability or am I wasting my time?


and while I'm here ..David because I didn't know who it was

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Uncle Bill on February 22, 2007, 09:13:24 PM
Quote
I will not give up the ship  :kogs
How about sailing the ship to Santiago? If the ranch departures are staggered so that driving is during daylight hours, and if the drive to Quito takes 3 or more hours, then racers probably won't reach Santiago until late evening.
Slowhatch I'm back in Guayaquil now but have no idea if this even makes any sense  :rotf:? It's really pretty to look at and has lots of those "decorated sidewalk designs" that Boingo mentioned. Also it has its own airport but I know you all know that already :lol: .. I'm just rambling... maybe you all can tell me if Guayaquil is even a possability or am I wasting my time?


and while I'm here ..David because I didn't know who it was





This looks like david is  changing a tire on one of  the mining dump truck  or they have to tighten the nuts on the wheels just a thought.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 22, 2007, 09:53:05 PM
PUDDIN, the most probable is clearly Quito area museums. However, after that there is really nowhere else you can go but to Guayaquil. There are two reasons for that:

1. Guayaquil is the commercial center of Ecuador and its leading seaport. It has a much larger population. It should have a reasonable number of museums even though Quito as captial city may ahve more.

2. The Guayaquil airport has about the same flight density in all directions as Quito airport does.

I think you should continue your Guayaquil area museum search.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: banzai on February 23, 2007, 02:46:22 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/5see0obXS04JP92ah
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: red_sox on February 23, 2007, 03:15:23 AM
Thanks for posting that..

Damn.. im sad that Charla and Mirna are in the back of the pack.. i wonder around which point of the race they start to pick it up and take the lead? The ending of episode two sounds exciting.. i love close eliminations.. but it will be sad to see Kevin and Drew leave :(
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: red_sox on February 23, 2007, 03:59:04 AM
And about the mystery building, I have just sent off a few emails to some museums in Chile with the photo attachments, and i will let you know if I get replies :)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2007, 06:08:54 AM
No time to look...but Guayaquil has:

A Naval Museum

A"Banco" Museum

and a yacht/Naval Club with "temporary exhibition" rooms.

Good job red_sox! I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 23, 2007, 09:54:29 AM
Thanks Banzai  :tup:. So I guess the Detour is change a tire or move a pile of dirt.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 11:02:52 AM
Thanks Banzai :yaya:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 11:22:28 AM
The CBS website (http://www.cbs.com/) says one racer nearly runs over another while attempting to free a vehicle thats stuck in the mud :grins:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: makz3d on February 23, 2007, 11:27:24 AM
Thankz Banzai,

I'm somewhat confused.  I would think the confrontation on the road between Charla/Mirna & BQs was on the way to the Detour.

If that is right, then how would BQs not be in the final 4 racing to pit stop if they and Charla/Mirna started from the same spot in road at about the same time?

BQ's aren't shown at Detour.  The way Phil worded it, Charla/Mirna were 1 of 4 teams trying to not get eliminated.

Since the final 4 are racing across the desert it doesn't seem to me that the confrontation would be on the way to the pit stop as I can't see anyone using up that much time in that part of the race.

Also, it appears to be Amber working the Back Hoe.  I'm hoping since she is shown on the clip at the same time as the group that that means they are in the 4 teams racing to the pit stop.  :pray: (I guess you can tell I'm not a Rob/Amber fan)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 23, 2007, 11:49:42 AM
I'm sure that the confrontation takes place after the copper mine.  The reason is that we have pin pointed the the road that it happens on.  They are going to San Pedro de Atacama at that point and it's around noon.  The copper mine shots look like early to mid morning.

Thanks Banzai !  This shot is basically equal to looking at a clock!  I can't do it now but later on I will have an exact time for it.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 01:00:12 PM
My take fwiw:

4 teams racing through the desert
Cha's
Charla & Mirna
BQ's
David and Mary
and
Kevin & Drew are the ones that misread the clue so are not apart of the 4 teams racing through the desert


**A roadside confrontation causes one team to give another team an ultimatum. Is this the end of their alliance?
C/M & the BQ's per promo's

**Racing to avoid elimination four teams conduct a mad dash in 4x4's across the desert where frustration and anger boil over and alliances are shattered.
We know that the frustrated alliance is C/M & the BQ's

**Racing to avoid elimination, four teams conduct a mad dash in 4x4's across the desert. Who will make it?
This goes hand in hand with the above clue

**On the way to the pitstop, one team misreads a clue and falls further behind. Is this the end for them?
Kevin & Drew

David & Mary running with the Cha's to the detour:
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11514.0;attach=21703;image)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 23, 2007, 01:57:43 PM
I found where this clip was filmed   :happy:   

I looked all over teh copper mine.

I'll get the time later on but suffice it to say that it is early in the morning.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 23, 2007, 02:00:53 PM
I suspect that they have to take the company bus in and out of the mining operations area.

That is to explain why they are bunched both before and after the detour.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 23, 2007, 02:21:19 PM
There's one shot that nobody seems to have commented on.  At the very beginning of allmost all the promos Uchenna and Joyce are shown jumping with joy, Uchenna pumps his fist, and Joyce opens her mouth in a gasp of delight.  Is this a shot of Uchenna and Joyce winning the leg and winning a delux trip to the unknown?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 23, 2007, 02:26:20 PM
presents  ...looks like a Detour afterall !!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/20Feb0018.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/20Feb0017.jpg)


Rob has a DETOUR clue in his hand.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 02:42:11 PM
There's one shot that nobody seems to have commented on.  At the very beginning of allmost all the promos Uchenna and Joyce are shown jumping with joy, Uchenna pumps his fist, and Joyce opens her mouth in a gasp of delight.  Is this a shot of Uchenna and Joyce winning the leg and winning a delux trip to the unknown?
It's from EP1 Gman.
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Rob has a DETOUR clue in his hand.
Before I posted those pictures I wasn't sure if the tire change was a Roadblock or Detour Gman :).

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 02:44:08 PM
I found where this clip was filmed   :happy:   

I looked all over teh copper mine.

I'll get the time later on but suffice it to say that it is early in the morning.
:popcorn:  :yess:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 02:57:57 PM
wow - my bad, that was a retarded post LOL

what I MEANT to say was

I hope Dustin and Kandice start getting good again if they are in fact one of the four teams racing to avoid elimination...we know they make it to the f3, so I hope they get good again :D
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 03:05:56 PM
Why? we know they are safe Mike.

fwiw:
TV Guide

The 10 remaining teams begin the second leg of the race in Ecuador and then travel to Chile where they must change a tire on a huge truck used at a copper mine. Later, they race across a desert in 4x4s to the pit stop where one team is eliminated. Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 03:10:33 PM
haha, yeah I know they're are safe...but I've been playing up the fact that they are great racers for a while now even before I knew they made it to f3 and I don't want them to do bad LOL

hmm..is there a roadblock AND detour in leg 2? I hope so
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on February 23, 2007, 03:36:01 PM
w8 so how do we no tht the final 3 spoiler is true??? u never no how accurate these spoilers r, && i think tht mirna/charla && the BQs r 2 teams of the 4 reacing not 2 b eliminated
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 03:44:14 PM
w8 so how do we no tht the final 3 spoiler is true??? u never no how accurate these spoilers r, && i think tht mirna/charla && the BQs r 2 teams of the 4 reacing not 2 b eliminated
Look here Choc  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.0.html) and remember a spoiler is not a spoiler untill the shows have aired ;).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 03:46:25 PM
even though I believe all current spoilers (though I'm still SLIGHTLY spectacle on the boot-list) the only thing we can say we know FOR SURE is the 4 of the final five teams as those are the only documented teams seen (i think).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: $HOP@HOL!C on February 23, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
they r, i saw those pix
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 04:03:46 PM
Guys this thread is for EP2 ..please discuss the spoilers aka bootlist here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,8579.0.html)  :kissy:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 04:40:20 PM
just to confirm what we already pretty much know even without the spoilers :D
Esquire I believe is a neighbor of Kevin & Drew..i'll have to check my notes.

from RTVW (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1465.shtml)

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esquire 745 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
 02-23-07, 04:08 PM (EST)
     
"Good bye ........"



I have a pretty good source (and I've never actually had one of those before) and can tell you that Kevin and Drew are getting booted this week

 
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 04:50:35 PM
It'll suck to see them go so early. I expected them to be a lot better..they were so good on TAR1
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
OK I did some digging, in this thread  (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1409.shtml#33):
Also I know esquire from other forums and he doesn't make things up.

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esquire 735 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
 11-14-06, 10:27 PM (EST)
     
34. "Kevin/Drew in TAR All stars"
I have a TAR all star spoiler. My wife's friend is a neighbor of Kevin from Kevin/Drew fame and tells me that Kevin is doing TAR-all star.
Although I know this type of info usually is greeted with much skepticism, since neither my wife nor her friend are TAR fans and it took several weeks just to get the name of the TAR neighbor, I believe it is probably true.
 
 
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:05:45 PM
from Phils video above ..

Romber
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0007.jpg)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:08:19 PM
group:
The Cha's, Charla & Mirna and Kevin & Drew
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0000.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0002.jpg)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:09:23 PM
Kevin & Drew

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0001-1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0002-1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0003-1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0004.jpg)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:11:03 PM
Charla & Mirna

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Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:12:03 PM
??

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP2/23Feb0005.jpg)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 06:14:28 PM
oops and the video link  (http://cbsmediagroupftp.com/clips06/AMAZING%20RACE%20WEEK%202%20PREV001.wmv)
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 07:59:01 PM
that COULD be either kandice or dustin's sweater.

I wonder why D/K weren't seen in those pictures above.
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Post by: puddin on February 23, 2007, 08:40:05 PM
that COULD be either kandice or dustin's sweater.

I wonder why D/K weren't seen in those pictures above.
They don't want us to know who the 4 teams are that are racing to avoid elimination? lol
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Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 08:45:05 PM
hmm...that makes sense LOL
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Post by: banzai on February 23, 2007, 09:19:20 PM
Maybe the BBQs are wearing blue?  ???

http://www.youtube.com/v/KFTyHKJq16E
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Post by: michael on February 23, 2007, 09:27:58 PM
yeah - that's what I said
haha, that video of them makes me laugh.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 12:12:29 AM
This shot was taken between 10:48 and 10:59 am (assumes November 23rd)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 12:31:05 AM
This shot was taken between 9:26 and 9:49 am (assumes November 23rd)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 12:57:42 AM
This shot was taken between 8:50 and 9:10 am (assumes November 23rd)

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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 01:09:25 AM
Thank you Chateau  :hearts:! Long hard task changing those tires *whew*


nevermind! someone mentioned Calama airport up thread and I got all confused
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 01:24:24 AM
It's the string of connections:

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 01:31:00 AM
This has probably already been mentioned but I'll just say it again.  I think the mechanics of the Raodblock are

1)  Teams rush into the museum
2)  They get to the cluebox and read the instructions, choose who does it (see Roadblock instructions in Amber's hand)
3)  That team member probably searches for some artifact
4)  They show it to the guard back by the entry (see a Guido jumping with joy near the guard)

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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 01:43:27 AM
Freaking stupid building is making me nuts  :knuckles:  (:;)
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 24, 2007, 09:51:22 AM
Looks like the ROADBLOCK takes place first at the Marine Museum (Ecuador somewhere).  Teams then must get to the airport and find flights to Chile.  Then proceed (they must drive 4x4's to desert mining site.

Looks like the DETOUR takes place in Chile and the choice is between either LIFT IT (lifting gravel from a pile, moving the front loadeer a ways and dumping the load) or CHANGE IT (changing nuts on a huge, I mean HUGE tire.)

It looks like Romber is at least an hour ahead of Charla and Mirna.

At the end of the DETOUR teams must race across the desert to the pitstop.

Kevin and Drew are way behind and eventually are Philiminated!
Title: Leg#2 spoilers
Post by: survivorfan on February 24, 2007, 10:18:01 AM
Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will be the first to complete the detour?
Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock?
Which team will make the highest jump in the standings from the previous episode?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 11:33:58 AM
Any ideas on what sort of boat/ship whatever this might be  :'( ?

It looks ornate and I see no sails

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Post by: Boingo on February 24, 2007, 12:19:40 PM
Any ideas on what sort of boat/ship whatever this might be  :'( ?

It looks ornate and I see no sails

Just a wild guess, but could it be the Guayas, built in 1841 in Guayaquil, the first seaworthy steamship built on the Southamerican west coast.   :angel:  (BTW, it's also featured on the coat of arms of Ecuador).

OK, I did say it was a wild guess   :-\
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2007, 01:07:03 PM
This is driving me nuts too!

I've had limited time to look but knowing that puddin was looking for the building--I've concentrazted on this from an "antique" perspective...

I have googled in a gadzillion combos--in Ecuador and Chile (just in case) and read blogs and searched photos for anything that included:

Nautical or Maritime exhibitions
Model ships
Ship figureheads
Museum/special interest/ displays--exhibitions--exhibits--
Sea-faring
Magellan
Tourist displays
Bank displays


All with no luck.... :'(

If anybody has a tourist info lead --I don't mind calling to ask about relevant displays but I've found zip/zero/nothing!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2007, 01:16:04 PM
I'm also trying to catch up on all the phenomenal work on the roadblock/detours! Great job everybody!

To be sure I have this right--The roadblock seems to be the museum--the detour is the change tire/ move earth task...

Who/what is the flight screw-up?

Is that getting to Atacama?

Darn--guess they won't be climbing my dune...

I'm still thinking this season needs more DRAMA! dare I say it seems a little blah so far? :hides

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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 01:37:13 PM
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/leveridge/replicas.html  :angel:
Title: Re: Leg#2 spoilers
Post by: survivorfan on February 24, 2007, 01:52:07 PM
Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will be the first to complete the detour?
Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock?
Which team will make the highest jump in the standings from the previous episode?


can someone who KNOW the answer please post it for me
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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 02:31:01 PM
Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will be the first to complete the detour?
Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock?
Which team will make the highest jump in the standings from the previous episode?


can someone who KNOW the answer please post it for me
I don't KNOW but can take a guess

Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?  Eric & Dee
Which team will be the first to complete the detour? Eric & Dee
Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock? Romber
Which team will make the highest jump in the standings from the previous episode? Uchenna & Joyce or Eric & Dee? maybe even Joe & Bill?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: mswood on February 24, 2007, 03:34:31 PM
I'm also trying to catch up on all the phenomenal work on the roadblock/detours! Great job everybody!

To be sure I have this right--The roadblock seems to be the museum--the detour is the change tire/ move earth task...

Who/what is the flight screw-up?

Is that getting to Atacama?

Darn--guess they won't be climbing my dune...

I'm still thinking this season needs more DRAMA! dare I say it seems a little blah so far? :hides

Peach, I think that only having an hour really hurt the possability of exploring either team drama or the difficulty of the drive and altitude int eh first episode.

I also think the fact that all these racers are aware of how they have come across beofre on tv, and might choose to edit themselves (especially earlier before things really get tense) more careully.

I expect the team drama to increase, I am a little more curious about the events and tasks.  Like uyyourself I won't not only difficult tasks ut tasks that are visually arresting.  And this looks like we have two weeks in a row where teh tasks aren't visually that interesting.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2007, 03:53:42 PM
I agree--they can't script team drama--but theres no excuse for poor task drama! And episode one had the potential to be so much more!

Don't they know they NEED me for a TAR task planner?! ;)

In case it will help anyone else-- a  good list of Ecuador museums  (http://www.ecuador-travel-guide.org/art&culture/museums.htm#guayas)...
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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 04:48:55 PM


In case it will help anyone else-- a  good list of Ecuador museums  (http://www.ecuador-travel-guide.org/art&culture/museums.htm#guayas)...

Been there done that  :groan: I'm spent! I watched basketball all day only to get 2 picture in pictures and they were the same as the on-line promo  :groan:
I concur the mystery building is one of:
museum
exhibition
expo/ gallery w/ some sort of nautical theme and is ritzy looking enough to have its own security.
in what looks like a suberb somewhere in South America :nods:
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Post by: Kogs on February 24, 2007, 06:03:07 PM
monday on tes

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AMAZING RACE CASTOFF: We will talk to the latest Amazing Race team castoff to be voted off the new All Stars season. On Monday morning, we'll have a recap of Sunday’s episode and as always, talk to the castoffs about what really went wrong.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 24, 2007, 07:51:09 PM
Two sites come to mind which might be the place that the ROADBLOCK task is carried out in Quito:

Museo de la Ciudad

Museo Municipal de Arte y Historia
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2007, 08:22:16 PM
Two sites come to mind which might be the place that the ROADBLOCK task is carried out in Quito:

Museo de la Ciudad

Museo Municipal de Arte y Historia

G-man--I liked the Ciudad museo too--but I found this pic of the entry and it doesn't seem to fit...

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 09:07:36 PM
This shot was taken between 12:51 and 1:09 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
This shot was taken between 1:37 and 2:03 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 09:11:45 PM
These shots were taken between 1:09 and 1:26 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2007, 09:14:15 PM
This shot was taken between 2:37 and 2:55 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 24, 2007, 09:20:05 PM
The promo editing suggests this is Rob starting Leg 2 during daylight hours, and I have no reason to think otherwise. So it's an 18/42 hour pitstop, then.

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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 09:33:17 PM
the pic dates have not been wrong yet..

(http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/th_13Feb0013.jpg)11/22 etc ..

So when does it get dark in Quito please?  :kissy:
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Post by: apskip on February 24, 2007, 09:47:37 PM

[So when does it get dark in Quito please? 

PUDDIN, Quito is on the equator so it has 12 hours 8 minutes between sunrise and sunset in late November. There is minimal linger to the dusk, so the answer is about 7pm.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
An 18 hour pitstop already? Right behind having a sleep-over with cots and all at a nice restaurant?   Gee--that is so tough for our guys.... :colealert:

I know they are all hurting from the altitude--but somehow this doesn't seem like the  "we're going to make it really difficult for them" of Bertram's quote...

Or if it really WAS that difficult due to the altitude and the hard drive--then TPTB need to SHOW us that a little more.

I still want my DRAMA! :lol:



Chateau--could that shot of Romber be after the drive back to Quito o (4+ hours according to Whirley)--or wherever that darn museum is --would they let them drive in the dark? Does that change the time estimate at all?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 10:31:56 PM
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Chateau--could that shot of Romber be after the drive back to Quito o (4+ hours according to Whirley)--or wherever that darn museum is --would they let them drive in the dark? Does that change the time estimate at all?

He's getting into the car peach..I'll guess he's just leaving the Ranch.
Also now I'm thinking that Romber do go for the delayed earlier flight but switch once they find out it was delayed and thats why they look like a deer caught in headlights  :inocent:.

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PUDDIN, Quito is on the equator so it has 12 hours 8 minutes between sunrise and sunset in late November. There is minimal linger to the dusk, so the answer is about 7pm.
Thank you apskip's :yaya:
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Post by: mswood on February 24, 2007, 11:24:15 PM
I wont be surprised at all with a 18 hour pit Stop.  The producers generally don't have teams driving at night under really harsh conditions.  And I think having several hours of (what we have several teams) calling the worst roads they have ever been on would make the producers hesitant to let them leave at hours where for all teams the entire length of the bad part of the road would be done at night.

And Peach you are so right.  The altitude has to be a killer, the road was a killer and that has to be hard on the body for extended periods.  But the stupid ass prodcuers don't show us that or even talk about it.  We have to read about the area or watch the extra clips to understand that the first episode wasn't a walk in the park.

Apskip, does an 18 hour window screw with much of the flight schedules?

And Chateau d If.  I love that you get check in times for the teams.  Love it.

Can't wait to get confirmation tomorrow about how much time seperated all the different teams.

And Puddin, wheres the damn museum (kidding). (:;)
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Post by: puddin on February 24, 2007, 11:37:23 PM
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And Puddin, wheres the damn museum (kidding).
I quit and am moving onto the intro pictures  :snicker: ..I'm really looking forward to what & where that damn museum is  :yess:

And Chateau, you know I love you and thank you for the team check-in times  :luvya:, as always :yourock:
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 25, 2007, 01:31:50 AM
I have a location for the mystery museum !



 :tup:

It looks to me like it is along the Paseo Pratt in Antofagasta, Chile.  The best evidence is in the pavement style that shows up in a Panoramio of of GE.

Look here to see the dual tile pattern of diamonds and squares.  It's the same in the promo.

Also, from GE there are large swaths of light and dark colored regions of the pavement.  These match the promo too.


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Post by: Chateau d If on February 25, 2007, 01:47:54 AM
This is Antofagasta:

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 25, 2007, 01:53:59 AM
From Apskip

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2. Quito 11/22 to San Pedro de Atacama, Chile
If no or early tasks in Quito allows this, then
Fly UIO to Panama City on COPA 210 0740 to 0925, then PTY to Santiago CM796 1138 to 1953, then catch last flight to Antofagasta LAN 376 2100 to 2255. Get a rental car to make up the extra 125 miles to Calama in about 2 hours and arrive about 9 hours ahead of the teams coming directly to Calama by air.
For teams who can’t make this connection then the structure of flights from SCL to CJC means that there is no benefit to getting to SCL early. I expect that teams will try unnecessary connections through Bogota and elsewhere, but the simplest and most reasonable is TACA 028 UIO to LIM 1805 to 2010, then LACSA 651 LIM to SCL 2105 0225, then LAN 344 SJC to CJC 0640 to 0845.

The part about dropping into Antofagasta now looks like part of the race, not just a way for one team to beat others to Calama!  The arrival time of 22:55 is certainly consistent with the darkness of the Roadblock.
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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 10:52:49 AM
Oh Boy!!!! I think I love you Chateau  :wohoo:
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Post by: Kogs on February 25, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
Oh Boy!!!! I think I love you Chateau  :wohoo:

wont g-man get jealous??????? :angel: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 25, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
 :luvya: Who, Me?

Does Chateau have a castle on the Rhine? :hearts:

OK, in Antofagasta, how about the Museo Historical Regional.  Located in two buildings (1) a former Customs House on Av. Balmaceda, and (2) the former Maritime Government Building on Simon Bolivar 88.  I could find no Museums directly on Paseo Pratt.

Also nearby is the Chuquicamata Mina de Cobre.  A possible site for the Detour.

I don't care, I still luv Puddin  :luvya:
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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 11:38:22 AM
I  :luvya: you too Gman ..grrrrr  :flirt: all that ***y grey hair drives me wild!

cool  (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1180365181058937205YKLdOr)

(http://thumb5.webshots.net/s/thumb2/6/51/81/180365181YKLdOr_th.jpg) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1180365181058937205YKLdOr)
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 25, 2007, 11:46:34 AM
OK, no more Grecian Formula 16!  Its gray all the way!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 25, 2007, 12:36:50 PM
Here is my castle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chateau_d%27If).  It's a few miles off the coast of Marseille.   ;D

The street is named after Arturo Prat so there is a spelling variation to keep in mind.  And it is sometimes called a peatonal to designate it for foot traffic.

I looked a little but have not come up with museums or banks either.  This is Puddin's area of expertise.

The mine we have been looking at is the closest one to Antofagasta (http://www.antofagasta.co.uk/interior/operations/f_pelambres.html)
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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 01:13:48 PM
Can I come live with you Chateau  :angel:?
I looked around a little in the Arturo Prat but am not going to kill myself trying to find the museum. I just wanted to know where it was  :yess:
I still thinks its an exhibit of sorts?
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 25, 2007, 01:17:41 PM
You get whipped on your birthday !
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Post by: apskip on February 25, 2007, 02:42:57 PM
This would of course be the same Chilean Naval head Arturio Prat for whom the Naval Base Arturio Prat on Robert Island in the Chilean Antarctic is named. We can thank charlierose for that tidbit of information on an earlier posting.
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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 03:06:52 PM
You get whipped on your birthday !
Now thats what I'm talking about  :wohoo:

Plaza Colon *giggles*
Good job everyone!!
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 25, 2007, 05:04:00 PM
Ah, Chateau, now I know where my Huguenot ancestors were inprisoned.  But that was long, long ago so I won't hold it against you.  But be careful, that Chateau is more of a prison than a romantic castle as is mine on the Rhine.

Would the Chuquicamata Mina de Cobre fit "a copper mine close to Antofagasta?"
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Post by: charlierose on February 25, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
This would of course be the same Chilean Naval head Arturio Prat for whom the Naval Base Arturio Prat on Robert Island in the Chilean Antarctic is named. We can thank charlierose for that tidbit of information on an earlier posting.

I knew it!!   :yess:  I told you guys this was in Chile. 

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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
 :lol: Well I knew it was in South America as well as somwhere I've never been  ;)
Good job charlierose!!
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Post by: michael on February 25, 2007, 08:07:35 PM
who said the episode title?!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 25, 2007, 08:10:22 PM
Charla...
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 25, 2007, 08:13:10 PM
Were we off or were we off on the "mystery museum" - 'twas no museum it was the lobby of the Codelco Copper mine company in Santiago, Chile!!!

We goofed that one, but we had the name of the mine, Chuquicamata in Calama right.

What kind of hours do those suits keep in Codelco?  Board meetings going on at least after 2:30AM!

Typical TAR bunch up with all teams on the same flighj from Santiago to Calama.

Puddin's boot list holds true: Kevin and Drew gone.  Drew didn't seem very happy about it.  And they lost because they couldn't follow directions nor did they see the speed limit sign increase to 50kph.

Rob and Amber again!  Odds will jump again this week, but if Puddin's list holds they say bye-bye in two weeks!
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Post by: asamber1 on February 25, 2007, 08:14:42 PM
Wow i really hope spoilers are a little wrong and Ozzy and Danny will be in the final three [i cant even hope for Romber anymore because spoilers are so against it] but the BQ's and Charla and Mirna are really sucking at this race, geeze and i thought Danielle shouldn't have been a all star.

Eric was way annoying he is no Rob, lets face it.

Rob and Amber are rocking and have now broken two records, the first team to come in first on the first two legs of the race, and have now have the most first places, with 7, I count TBC's because it was a whole episode, and in their season they actually reached the mat.  They do deserve the final three, and i still have my fingers cross "the list" is wrong, or at least i hope they can beat Teri and Ian!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 25, 2007, 08:16:35 PM
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What kind of hours do those suits keep in Codelco?  Board meetings going on at least after 2:30AM!



Kind of nice looking "suits" too!   :-[
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Post by: puddin on February 25, 2007, 08:39:10 PM
I thought the doors looked copper so I searched copper in South America and of course only came up with the mines and yes I was in Santiago  :lol:
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Post by: apskip on February 25, 2007, 08:40:59 PM
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What kind of hours do those suits keep in Codelco?  Board meetings going on at least after 2:30AM!



Kind of nice looking "suits" too!   :-[


No sane businessmen would be holding a meeting at 0300. What we saw were local actors dressed up as businessmen. I hope that got good money for playing the part of mannequins.
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 25, 2007, 11:43:27 PM
Maybe someone with better resolution can help if the end credits were captured. I can make out most of it, but "cerro alto finning chile" ?  ???



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Post by: apskip on February 26, 2007, 12:16:26 AM
Cerro Alto is a construction company in Chile. Finning is a mining company in Chile.
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Post by: red_sox on February 26, 2007, 12:48:55 AM
Does anyone know if its been uploaded to You Tube? Im DESPERATE!
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 26, 2007, 09:31:12 AM
TPTB threw in a 18 hour pit stop which threw our timings off, but no matter they all ended up arriving in Santiago at the same time (Romber and the Chas were about 15 minutes behind) and then all bunched up again on the flight to Calama. If Joyce hadn't given the answer to Ian, he might still be trying to figure out where all the letters were or what the spelt.

Drew and Kevin really got nasty on the flight to Calama; pulling other people's bags out of the overhead bins in first class (a smart move on whoever did that) as they got on the plane.  It looks like Drew emptied half of his bag out, or he never could have taken it on board with him.

Note the really small bags that Rob and Amber are carrying; who needs a change of clothing every day? In fact, Rob's is not a backpack at all, but a side carrying messenger bag.  Smart move on the part of Romber.

Amber is pretty darn good moving that front-loader around.  Surprise here since Rob was on camera saying that this wouldn't be hard for him since he had been driving things like this for 10 years when he was working in construction (before his Survivor, Surviror All Stars, TAR and TARAS years!)  Did he say anything when Amber climbed on board?

So far the tasks haven't been all that physically challenging.  Are things about to change?
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 26, 2007, 09:35:56 AM
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Does anyone know if it's been uploaded to Youtube?
It's up (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=JTF72).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: BballKates on February 26, 2007, 11:39:34 AM
I seriously can't believe Rob and Amber came in first again. I hope that the spoilers are true and that they fall from their pedestal.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 26, 2007, 02:25:03 PM
TPTB threw in a 18 hour pit stop which threw our timings off, but no matter they all ended up arriving in Santiago at the same time (Romber and the Chas were about 15 minutes behind) and then all bunched up again on the flight to Calama. If Joyce hadn't given the answer to Ian, he might still be trying to figure out where all the letters were or what the spelt.

Drew and Kevin really got nasty on the flight to Calama; pulling other people's bags out of the overhead bins in first class (a smart move on whoever did that) as they got on the plane.  It looks like Drew emptied half of his bag out, or he never could have taken it on board with him.

Note the really small bags that Rob and Amber are carrying; who needs a change of clothing every day? In fact, Rob's is not a backpack at all, but a side carrying messenger bag.  Smart move on the part of Romber.

Amber is pretty darn good moving that front-loader around.  Surprise here since Rob was on camera saying that this wouldn't be hard for him since he had been driving things like this for 10 years when he was working in construction (before his Survivor, Surviror All Stars, TAR and TARAS years!)  Did he say anything when Amber climbed on board?

So far the tasks haven't been all that physically challenging.  Are things about to change?

GMAN, it was David and Mary's bags. I applauded when I saw Drew do that. When I travel on an airplane, I HATE IT when people from other sections of the plane early board and steal my luggage space. Passengers in coach are not allowed to put bags in first class luggage compartments unless explicitly given permission by the flight attendants. If that had happened, David would have said something. Instead, he just went and put his bags back in the same place. I am looking forward to seeing the last of KENTUCKY in episode 3. They are getting on my nerves (almost as much as Mirna and Charla and, surprisingly, more than Rob and Amber so far).
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 26, 2007, 03:25:13 PM
 :ythat:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 26, 2007, 04:12:25 PM
 Buddy TV interview with Kevin and Drew  (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-amazing-race/exclusive-interview-kevin-and-4445.aspx)


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Is there anything from last night’s episode that they didn’t show that you wish they had?

Kevin: Yup, absolutely.  Right from episode one, do you remember we completely destroyed our car just trying to get there?  Well, the front end was destroyed so it was un-drivable.  So what they did was they held us back, they made us fiddle around with the car for about 20 minutes and then we said, “Okay, we can’t drive it, we can’t get it out of the mud, we’re going to try and fix the flat.”  And then on top of that they gave us a 15-minute penalty.  So when it says that we left at such and such time, add about another half an hour, 45 minutes on that and that’s when we actually left.  So given the fact that we finished five minutes behind the last two teams, I mean that half hour penalty was big.  I don’t know why they didn’t show that because it’s very part and partial to the story that’s shown.  Drew getting oxygen wasn’t part and partial to the story that’s shown.  You’d already seen enough of him falling and nursing his various injuries and talking about his medicine. The oxygen was nothing.  They should have used that time to show we had a half an hour penalty, that’d make more sense


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Did any of the teams annoy you? Was there anybody that you really didn’t get along with?

Drew: No, we kind of got along with everybody.  Even the incident with David and Mary with the luggage, they didn’t show it afterwards, but that became a non-issue and I’m very good friends wit Dave and Mary now.

Kevin:  We all laugh about it. It wasn’t nearly as scandalous as it looked on TV.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 26, 2007, 05:41:01 PM
From Kevin and Drew: " I mean that half hour penalty was big."

NOT quite. Since Kevin and Drew were on the same flight from Santiago to Calama as all thet other teams, the penalty meant absolutely nothing. Also, they left Hacienda Yanahurco at 854am and would have arrived at Quito Airport around 1pm. The flight from Quito to Lima left at 605pm, so they sat around the Quito airport for nearly 5 hours. The only things that ultimately were big were their inability to know when the speed limits changed to 50 km/hr, their inability to know which way to turn at the final junction, and their feeble walking from the car to the mat.

This is supposed to be REALITY TELEVISION.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: puddin on February 26, 2007, 05:59:34 PM
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Did any of the teams annoy you? Was there anybody that you really didn’t get along with?

Drew: No, we kind of got along with everybody.  Even the incident with David and Mary with the luggage, they didn’t show it afterwards, but that became a non-issue and I’m very good friends wit Dave and Mary now.

Kevin:  We all laugh about it. It wasn’t nearly as scandalous as it looked on TV.

 :snicker:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 27, 2007, 06:09:36 PM
Free at last!  ;D After 3 days of voir dire on a gang murder case, the defense team booted me on a preemptory challenge. I guess they just didn't like me; I'm so ashamed  :snicker:. Back to work.
The exhibit was De Proa al Mar (http://www.codelco.com/prensa/archivo/detalle.asp?id=20061113120704).

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2007, 06:54:36 PM
Free at last!  ;D After 3 days of voir dire on a gang murder case, the defense team booted me on a preemptory challenge. I guess they just didn't like me; I'm so ashamed  :snicker:. Back to work.
The exhibit was De Proa al Mar (http://www.codelco.com/prensa/archivo/detalle.asp?id=20061113120704).

Ha! Congrats on your escape! They salivate when they see me coming....I've been called for jury duty 9 times and served on all 9 juries--I'm just the ideal juror I guess! You'll have to tell me your secret!

Great pickup on that doggone exhibit! I must have googled every possible combo of nautical or maritime art/exhibitions/exhibits and as did puddin--I looked all over Santiago. Hate it when we can't find something! :umn:
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 28, 2007, 12:21:26 AM
Ok, guessing time. This site (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/South_America/Chile/Region_de_Antofagasta/San_Pedro_de_Atacama-1558322/Things_To_Do-San_Pedro_de_Atacama-Death_Valley-BR-1.html) mentions directions to Valle Muerte:
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a few kilometres off San Pedro, on the right (NE) side of the road to Calama.
During the show, there was a sign that the marked the east entrance and you could see cars driving through a defile. Unless production rented the entire park (a possibility), I'll go ahead and mark the pit stop on this small branch road.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 28, 2007, 01:28:51 AM
We have a planitarium in LA; it's where you learn about them planits.  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 28, 2007, 08:40:16 AM
Ok, guessing time. This site (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/South_America/Chile/Region_de_Antofagasta/San_Pedro_de_Atacama-1558322/Things_To_Do-San_Pedro_de_Atacama-Death_Valley-BR-1.html) mentions directions to Valle Muerte:
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a few kilometres off San Pedro, on the right (NE) side of the road to Calama.
During the show, there was a sign that the marked the east entrance and you could see cars driving through a defile. Unless production rented the entire park (a possibility), I'll go ahead and mark the pit stop on this small branch road.

SLOWHATCH, my analysis of the way into Valley of the Dead indicates  a different possibility for where the mat area was. I think it was much closer to the main road. Please take a look at my file initially meant to be .kmz but with misfunctions I had to turn it into a .jpg file which does not allow Google Earth manipulation. Please note that where I think it is is just left of the Photographic point shown just before the big curve to the left. Your PitStop thumbtack is on the far right. the junction of the main road and entrance road is on the far left.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 28, 2007, 10:11:58 AM
I don't see a kmz attached, but without a lot of markers (one pile of dirt looks a lot like any other  ;D), your guess is as good as mine. I chose my spot for three reasons:
Like I said, there aren't a lot of markers and it's just a guess.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: mswood on February 28, 2007, 11:28:51 AM
We have a planitarium in LA; it's where you learn about them planits.  :lol:
I can't make fun of Eric for spelling, because I suck at it.

I actually felt a little ssorry for him.  He had wrote down the letters he saw, and he looked at the pictures (including the correct one), but he didn't see the "H" on the pen and thus didn't have the letters for it.  SOmeone on another board said, well if he had the Q then he should automatically have figured it out.  But according to the show there were extra letters, so for all he knew the "Q" could have been an extra letter.

Though, I will say, unless there was additional info restricting this.  I would have just wrote down each  location and then show the guard until I got I right.

Nobody tried this, so I would almost say their had to be a some restriction on it.

Or almost everyone who didn't figure it out immediately (like the BQ,s and Mary) are idiots.
Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 28, 2007, 11:42:11 AM
That was Joyce; Eric wrote down Aquarium.
I couldn't cap the whole instruction sheet, but there was probably something in there--going to the back of the line, etc.--to prevent people doing multiple guesses.
This cap from Mirna is curious. I've found Sky Airline (but the webpage won't load) and of course LAN chile--but there doesn't seem to be any flights matching those numbers. Of course, things could have changed in the last 3 months.

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Title: Re: EP2: "Beauty Is Sometimes Skin Deep."
Post by: apskip on February 28, 2007, 12:25:32 PM
We have a planitarium in LA; it's where you learn about them planits.  :lol:
I can't make fun of Eric for spelling, because I suck at it.

I actually felt a little ssorry for him.  He had wrote down the letters he saw, and he looked at the pictures (including the correct one), but he didn't see the "H" on the pen and thus didn't have the letters for it.  SOmeone on another board said, well if he had the Q then he should automatically have figured it out.  But according to the show there were extra letters, so for all he knew the "Q" could have been an extra letter.

Though, I will say, unless there was additional info restricting this.  I would have just wrote down each  location and then show the guard until I got I right.

Nobody tried this, so I would almost say their had to be a some restriction on it.

Or almost everyone who didn't figure it out immediately (like the BQ,s and Mary) are idiots.

MSWOOD, I think you've solved the puzzle with your last sentence. The racers may be the most interesting of all Amazing Racers, but nobody ever claimed that they were the brightest. The clue as I understood it directed them to look at the items on the wall and then work with the letters from the things around the table. What related to letters on the items on the wall? Only nameplates with names spelled out. I would have written down all 9 of the nameplates (only Mary did this if I remember correctly; will wonders never cease?) and then began the letter comparison against them to rule them in or out when enough letters indicated that.