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Title: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 10:48:47 AM
I have a thumbnail for now :lol: ,I have to wait for CBS to update for the larger picture ( I hope ).
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"Episode 1101" -- Host Phil Keoghan waits as teams race to the Pitstop on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, which airs on the CBS Television Network. Photo:


Miami, Florida to Quito, Ecuador (November 20-23 ? )

looks like the starting line is the Charles Deering Historical Estate, Miami FL. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.msg174433.html#msg174433) and the first pitstop is the Hacienda Yanahurco  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.msg174463.html#msg174463), Quito, Ecuador. ( both locations verified through phonecalls by georgiapeach )

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 No FN Usernames Left  (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessage?topicID=7343.topic)  @ sucks ( posted on 11/20/06 ) @ 1:46 pm

They're currently here in Miami. So far the teams I've seen (that I recognize) are:

*Rob & Amber (S7)
*Joe & Bill ("Team Guido" from S1)
*Charla & Mirna (S5)
*I think John Vito & Jill from S3 are also in it
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*At the gate, I only saw Romber and JVJ(?). I saw Charla & Mirna talking to the ticket agent getting their tickets, and cutting a bit for the camera just after they purchased them. There were two other teams and Team Guido after them. I think Team Guido was the last team in line, but again it was hard to tell, because they were in a big cluster including the 6 cameramen and sound guys assigned to them. All I know is some tall guy with kind of a big nose wearing something that looked (from a distance) like a straw cowboy hat was up at the counter talking to the agent.

* They're (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=7265.topic&start=741&stop=760) at Gate A7 of Miami International Airport waiting for an American Airlines flight to Quito, Ecuador
* I thought they were scheduled to leave at 3:05, but it turns out they were leaving at 3:50; so I got there too early to see all the teams
* Romber was done at the ticket counter about half an hour before Charla and Mirna. By the time Charla & Mirna left, 2 or 3 teams had caught up. Charla almost left her passport and ticket with the ticket agent. He had to call her back to get them.
* I don't know if this will help, but Rob & Amber were wearing their matching Red Sox caps, and Team Guido were wearing their fleece jackets with "Team Guido" stitched into the back. So, if the players were instructed to dress similar to the way they dressed last time they were on the show.
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 11:25:59 AM
It's a coral and a herd of cows.

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Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 11:53:35 AM
Wow puddin and Chateau!

Poor Mirna--who can forget her  previous chasing of cows in a corral  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7nKYtGrJLY) (starts at 02:53) --and Charla's comment about what she might have to do to them? :lol:

Could this be similar? It is from  Hacienda Zuleta  (http://www.zuleta.com/html/activities.html), a working ranch/guesthouse in Ecuador, two hours north of Quito.

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Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 12:31:42 PM
I bring a gift this afternoon
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.54737055677 (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.54737055677)
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
Yippee Kogs!!!!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 12:42:18 PM
KOGS!!

 :woohoo: :yourock: :ty3: :woohoo:

Where did you see it???

Okay, team! Time to  :geekon:
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 12:47:09 PM
WHY are Rob and Drew in a car together?? Could this be an Intersection??

Somebody screen capture this please, before I have a heart attack! :lol:
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 12:51:15 PM
if they are at that golf course they have to be on the 18th or the 1st hole by the clubhouse see'ing how you can see the big building by phil. also i bet they take cabs to the airport since they will be driving in ecuador.
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
WHY are Rob and Drew in a car together?? Could this be an Intersection??

Somebody screen capture this please, before I have a heart attack! :lol:
relax im sure puddin is working on it, and its kevin and drew, rob is not in that car. ywia
Title: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 12:52:24 PM
Thanks to Kogs for the video link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.54737055677)   :yess:

VO: your favorite teams are back and ready to run the amazing race one more time.
Phil: GO
VO: All Star fun
Charla Conf: I will try to use my size as an advantage
VO: All Star competition
Rob Conf: second place didn't taste too good were here to win.
VO: and a second chance of a lifetime
Drew: Peru is nice
Kevin: I'm sure its nice in Peru, were in Ecuador..
VO: the Amazing Race All Stars premieres Feb 18th..
 

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 12:55:55 PM
 :yess: :jumpy: :woohoo: :dancer: :jam: :jam: Good job Puddin!!!!!
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 12:58:43 PM
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its kevin and drew, rob is not in that car

Well-thank goodness for that! Thanks kogs! Guess I need slow-motion eyes!  :gman:
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 01:05:50 PM
I don't think it's that same golf course anymore.  The landscaping is really different.

It must be someplace else.  But we will find it because now there is plenty enough information to nail it down.

And I wonder if he meant to say "This is Equador, Jackass!!"
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
Could the  bird photo  (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/31Jan0026.jpg) be a condor?

Hmmm...that inn I posted in spoilers does  condor rehab  (http://www.zuleta.com/html/condor.html)!

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Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: apskip on January 31, 2007, 01:22:48 PM
Starting point is definitely CRANDON GOLF COURSE, KEY BISCAYNE, as estimated previously. Look at the building in the lowest tier of photos:
http://www.crandongolfclub.com/golf/proto/crandongolfclub/photos01/photos01.htm

It appears to be an exact match for the building in the Preview.

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 01:31:06 PM
Apskip found this photo from the Crandon golf course---

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 01:32:18 PM
Why don't you guys & gals bring what you found over here?  :waves:
Nevermind I merged them  :waves:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Boingo on January 31, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
 :-\  This may be the view "looking at Phil" with the clubhouse behind him at the golf course apskip mentioned.  Alternatively, the water could be the view looking south with the paths/walks/palms.   ;)  Just throwing this out there for discussion purposes.  ;)

Oh look, a parking lot, where the TAR vehicles will be awaiting the racers.... :rotf:

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 01:51:18 PM
I have a thumbnail for now :lol: ,I have to wait for CBS to update for the larger picture ( I hope ).
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"Episode 1101" -- Host Phil Keoghan waits as teams race to the Pitstop on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, which airs on the CBS Television Network. Photo:
The properties on Phils photo is dated 11/21/2006.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 01:52:03 PM
Just got off the phone with a great guy in special events at the Crandon golf course...

While CSI did do some filming there recently, neither WRP or Amazing Race did--and yes he did seem sincere.

He did seem to recall hearing that the film crew stayed at the Ritz though, but couldn't tell me anything else...
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: michael on January 31, 2007, 01:57:47 PM
the video link isn't working for me :(

Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 01:58:16 PM
Isn't this photo from Season 10? Seem to remember this...

puddin--where are season 10 vidcaps archived  ??? please? I can't find them...  ???

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 02:09:05 PM
Isn't this photo from Season 10? Seem to remember this...

puddin--where are season 10 vidcaps archived  ??? please? I can't find them...  ???

peach phil is yelling go during that cap
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 02:16:38 PM
Just got off the phone with a great guy in special events at the Crandon golf course...

While CSI did do some filming there recently, neither WRP or Amazing Race did--and yes he did seem sincere.

He did seem to recall hearing that the film crew stayed at the Ritz though, but couldn't tell me anything else...

im guessing they are taken to the starting line by the speedboats in the preview. now what we dotn know is if they drive them selfs to the airport or have to take a taxi from where ever they are at or by the speedboats that take that back to miami
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 02:26:18 PM
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It appears to be an exact match for the building in the Preview.


Askip,  this is not exactly pinging my match-o-meter

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 02:49:31 PM
the video link isn't working for me :(


here ya go Mike..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoYxaxrk12I
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on January 31, 2007, 03:20:42 PM
GEORGIA PEACH indicated that Hacienda Zuleta two hours north of Quito, between Ibarra and Cayambe and east of Otavalo, was her nomination as the most likely site for the episode 1 pit stop. After a lot of searching among Ecuador ranch information, I concur. It is the only ranch I could find that has cows (producing milk for Zuleta Jack cheese) which are evident in the photo behind Phil. It has a history dating back to 1691 and is rated as luxury accomodations for guests. And it's in the middle of nowhere. Just the place that the Amazing Race team would pick.

"The descendants of former Ecuadorian President and bullfighter Gallo Plaza have chosen to contribute to Ecuador's future by throwing Hacienda Zuleta into agrarian and environmental causes.  The property has a large organic garden (from which your meals will be harvested) and a cheese factory famous for its Zuleta Jack." It's also home to a condor recovery program, which you will be invited to visit.  The Hacienda offers a variety of activities including hiking and mountain biking behind the property, and there is a fine stable of horses for those who enjoy riding."

"This 4,000 acre working farm, built in 1691, offers guests a truly unique Ecuadorian experience. Saddle-up one of the Hacienda's ninety horses and explore the surrounding high-altitude grasslands and cloudforests, or visit Zuleta's condor re-population project, community embroidery workshop, dairy and cheese factory, or trout farm. Biking and hiking opportunities abound."

Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
Just got off the phone with a great guy in special events at the Crandon golf course...

While CSI did do some filming there recently, neither WRP or Amazing Race did--and yes he did seem sincere.

He did seem to recall hearing that the film crew stayed at the Ritz though, but couldn't tell me anything else...
I'm just catching up here.. THANKS for calling peach!!

Heres a slideshow (http://www.hiddentrails.com/america-south/ecuador/images/gallery_zuleta/zuleta-slides.htm) for Hacienda Zuleta (http://www.hiddentrails.com/america-south/ecuador/zuleta.htm)

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 04:39:05 PM
heres a map of the Otavalo Haciendas - Market  (http://www.solartours.com/Latin_America/Ecuador/Otavalo_Haciendas_-_Market_Vacations.aspx)

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 04:48:21 PM
Thanks puddin--I couldn't get the slideshow to link for me before...

It is beautiful, isn't it? Someday I'm going to get to go around the world again and stay in all these wonderful TAR places --*sigh*....

Chateau-- what do you think? Is it close enough? The land looks similar and it is the best I could find but you never know!


And BEST comment of the day goes to Chateau for:
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And I wonder if he meant to say "This is Ecuador, Jackass!!"
:jumpy:
 I think that TPTB would have wet their pants if he had said that exactly--but that's close enough for me! I guess old racers never change...
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on January 31, 2007, 05:58:41 PM
PUDDIN, great map of Otavalo area haciendas. Of course, Hacienda Zuleta is off the map to the east. I checked out every one of the haciendas on the Otavalo area map before I issued my earlier post and none of them showed any indications of cows on a working farm.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Mister RC on January 31, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
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And BEST comment of the day goes to Chateau for:
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And I wonder if he meant to say "This is Ecuador, Jackass!!"

 I think that TPTB would have wet their pants if he had said that exactly--but that's close enough for me! I guess old racers never change...

For real.  Doubt it'll make it into TV Guide as the title of one of the episodes, just as long as something they say becomes a title (ditto for Joe and Bill).
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 06:32:28 PM
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And BEST comment of the day goes to Chateau for:
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And I wonder if he meant to say "This is Ecuador, Jackass!!"

 I think that TPTB would have wet their pants if he had said that exactly--but that's close enough for me! I guess old racers never change...

For real.  Doubt it'll make it into TV Guide as the title of one of the episodes, just as long as something they say becomes a title (ditto for Joe and Bill).

Oh, I'm voting for Episode 1 title! It is a classic--again!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: gator27 on January 31, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
Isn't this photo from Season 10? Seem to remember this...

puddin--where are season 10 vidcaps archived  ??? please? I can't find them...  ???

The photo looks like the pitstop in Madagascar.

Edit: 
Sorry.  I thought the picture would go with the quote.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 07:22:47 PM
Isn't this photo from Season 10? Seem to remember this...

puddin--where are season 10 vidcaps archived  ??? please? I can't find them...  ???

The photo looks like the pitstop in Madagascar.

Edit: 
Sorry.  I thought the picture would go with the quote.

the thing peach is talking about IS NOT from tar10 gator, its from the starting line. he is yelling go
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 07:31:30 PM
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the thing peach is talking about IS NOT from tar10 gator, its from the starting line. he is yelling go

I have to say that I think kogs is absolutely right--he is definitely saying go.

That place just seems SO familiar to me--could I know it from a televised "hole 18" golf tournament or something? I've been checking other golf courses in the area and looking at their clubhouses but so far no luck. You Google Earth whizzes will have to find this one! ???

Just so we can see--it is similar to the pitstop but not quite...

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 07:39:35 PM
And why does that house behind Phil look so dark and gloomy? Is it unused? If it was a clubhouse, even if it was very early morning, you would think that there would be some lights on somewhere! Strange...
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on January 31, 2007, 07:44:37 PM
I agree that cigarette boats are the entry vehicles; the cap is a little fuzzy, but with a little luck we might find the rental agency or racing club with a matching design. About the starting line, I don't know. Are we sure it's even a golf club? It might be a "Magnum" style private estate.

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 07:51:33 PM
back from Hacienda Zuleta  :geekon: getting my geek on  :snicker:

Google Earth gives me fuzzy lands but found some other links fwiw:

Geodyspot (http://www.geody.com/geospot.php?world=terra&ufi=-929188&alc=hcn)
flickr geotagged (http://www.flickr.com/map/?&tag=&m=text&fLat=0.200000&fLon=-78.083336&zl=6&map_type=sat) ( surrounding area )
tageo.com  (http://www.tageo.com/index-e-ec-v-11-d-m1374456.htm) w/ Coordinates
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 08:02:04 PM
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the thing peach is talking about IS NOT from tar10 gator, its from the starting line. he is yelling go

I have to say that I think kogs is absolutely right--he is definitely saying go.

That place just seems SO familiar to me--could I know it from a televised "hole 18" golf tournament or something? I've been checking other golf courses in the area and looking at their clubhouses but so far no luck. You Google Earth whizzes will have to find this one! ???

Just so we can see--it is similar to the pitstop but not quite...

have you tried doral in miami perhaps?
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 08:20:35 PM
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have you tried doral in miami perhaps?

Oh yes--I did spend the afternoon "golfing" at the Doral! :lol:

It looks possible in terms of the golf course but I couldn't convince myself about the clubhouse--what do you all think?

That house looks old--colonial--historic-- to me ...Not so much like a modern day clubhouse...And I have searched around the area for historic homes and can't find anything...

This couldn't be some weird fake out insert could it? The closest is still the Madagascar place but why would Phil be saying GO there...I'm all confused...

Doral Clubhouse:

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Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 08:22:48 PM
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have you tried doral in miami perhaps?

Oh yes--I did spend the afternoon "golfing" at the Doral! :lol:

It looks possible in terms of the golf course but I couldn't convince myself about the clubhouse--what do you all think?

That house looks old--colonial--historic-- to me ...Not so much like a modern day clubhouse...And I have searched around the area for historic homes and can't find anything...

This couldn't be some weird fake out insert could it? The closest is still the Madagascar place but why would Phil be saying GO there...I'm all confused...

Doral Clubhouse:

peach trust me its not from tar10. doral has alot around there. thats the first thing that came to mind today after seeing the preview
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 08:31:48 PM
Who can zoom in on this? What is that cup shaped thingy on the top of the house in this view?

Chateau--is that something that would stand out in your  satellite seaches?
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 08:44:08 PM
..some pictures for you peach

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/1-16-20070066.jpg)
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 08:48:38 PM
 :o
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on January 31, 2007, 08:52:12 PM
Yowza! 125 haciendas (http://www.tageo.com/index-letter-72-e-ec-v-11.htm) in the Imbabura province alone  :groan: (Zuleta is the last one). This page (http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/southamerica/a/EcuHaciendas_2.htm) describes some of the more famous ones. Until more info comes in, Zuleta looks like it's as good as anything else.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 08:53:57 PM
too bad the video resolution sucks! whats all that junk to the left?
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 09:00:23 PM
Okay guys! I'm laughing at myself harder than anybody :lol: :lol:

But, ummm, puddin--that is not the same shirt....(no black accent stitching)!

Y'all are just feeding my obsession--it is a conspiracy and TPTB are in on it!   :rotf:

Oh my....this is funny! ;D
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 09:08:50 PM
Who can zoom in on this? What is that cup shaped thingy on the top of the house in this view?

Chateau--is that something that would stand out in your  satellite seaches?

That cup shaped thingy wasn't in the other pics I don't think...

Could it be a yacht going by on a canal or the Intercoastal Waterway right behind the house? And is there another one way on the left behind the house?
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 09:14:50 PM
I think it's just a bunch of stars.  They are overlaying the video with flying stars.  And the shirt's stitching would not make it through the low-rez video.

But dang!  I can't find this place anywhere.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on January 31, 2007, 09:19:11 PM
Agreed, it's just a glitch caused by the "star" transition. And the shirt's the same.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 09:24:34 PM
Opps, Spoke too soon.

It's the  Charles Deering Historical Estate (http://www.deeringestate.com/park/)

Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 09:26:40 PM
Okay--I defer to the masters!   :bow: (Just when I convinced myself that that was a yacht going by...)

My Adobe Photoshop just isn't up to this kind of detail-- :lol:--it could be Santa Claus for all I can tell!

I'm going back to Ecuador--I was doing better there! :bye:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 09:30:15 PM
No Peach!

Use your southern charms to contact Leslie:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 09:42:17 PM
Chateau  My Hero! :luvu:

One last look and what do I find but you've got it! By George, he's got it!

I am SOOO on the phone first thing! November 20 or 21, right?

I'm so excited! Thanks guys! And hey--there is a boat basin--COULD that have been a yacht??




edited to say: OOPS! Sorry Chateau!
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 09:44:19 PM
It's a 30 min drive to the airport:
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Post by: gingerman28 on January 31, 2007, 09:54:09 PM
Good show, ya'll!

I wonder how many teams will get lost driving that route to the airport?
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 31, 2007, 09:57:57 PM
Not me, Peach  :hides Chateau deserves the credit (great work  :jumpy:); all I did was make a guess about a private estate. So, unless anybody's interested in cigarette boats, we can move on to Ecuador  :plane: .
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 09:58:51 PM
Chateau--where is the nearest golf course??

Damn--why don't spaceball pics save for me :meow:

Heee..that is the last time I post without checking what else just got posted...

Here is a pic of the house after Andrew...

And hey--it was on  This Old House  (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.timeinc.net/toh/images/resources/miami/charlesdeering1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/tvprograms/houseproject/resources/episode/0,16652,198558,00.html&h=100&w=100&sz=4&hl=en&start=19&tbnid=-8FAba1GJ88yJM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcharles%2Bdeering%2Bestate%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG) --maybe restoring it after Andrew?
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 10:08:30 PM
No wonder that palm tree was bent over in that Phil shot.  The bent palm tree was the early reason I was holding skepticism for Crandon Golf Course.  All the palms there were straight up.  At the Deering Estate I don't see it either but it may be back there by the house hidden by larger trees.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 10:24:13 PM
More outside views...
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Post by: puddin on January 31, 2007, 10:25:37 PM
Wow!! just wow :hfive:  great work you guys!! (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/explanation.gif) << should be Chateau's avatar  ;)
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 10:31:41 PM
Hey look--we don't even need a golf course!
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Post by: Kogs on January 31, 2007, 10:38:43 PM
awesome work chatue, now will the tptb pay for rental cars twice in 1 leg? it only happened one other time and that was tar6 episode 2 when mersadayes was a sponser cause of the thank you in the credits  :lol: :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 10:43:02 PM
More...
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 10:54:03 PM
Wow!! just wow :hfive:  great work you guys!! (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/explanation.gif) << should be Chateau's avatar  ;)

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No wonder that palm tree was bent over in that Phil shot.  The bent palm tree was the early reason I was holding skepticism for Crandon Golf Course.

 :lol: Bent palm tree---WHAT bent palm tree??  :lol:

Thank goodness for Slowhatch and  Chateau !   :hearts:!
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 31, 2007, 11:28:09 PM
I was looking at this shot.  Now find the tree!


Oh, and Peach, here is my transplanted credit to you for snagging your hurricane shot and linking it (elsewhere)  :angel:

Thanks Peach!    :hfive:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2007, 11:45:51 PM

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Oh, and Peach, here is my transplanted credit to you for snagging your hurricane shot and linking it (elsewhere)


I saw! But you and Slowhatch did most of the work anyway, so you are fine with me! :waves:

But if you want--you can "pay" me back by teaching me how to draw on pictures like you do! (Off boards of course...)
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 31, 2007, 11:56:36 PM
Is this it? It's from an album (source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20748431@N00/sets/72157594503402268/)) that also contains a TAR3 reference.  ;D
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 12:07:46 AM
Yes!  You found it.  I couldn't see it with GE.

Peach, most of the drawing on the pictures I do with HandySnap.  If it's complicated I do it in Powerpoint.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 12:27:43 AM
Thanks Chateau--I'll give it a try!

Slowhatch
--what is the TAR 3 reference? I can't see it...

puddin-great link! It looks so beautiful there that now I'll be disappointed if they don't go there! And oooh....they have llamas too!
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 01, 2007, 12:45:14 AM
In the Singapore "Wet or Dry (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race3/show/episode09/ar3story07.shtml)" Detour, the teams that chose Wet had to find "mermaids" and figure out that it meant manatees.
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
Chateau your too much  :yess:


whats everyones take on the orangish color thingys behind Phil ?
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 01:15:50 AM
I'm just throwing this in..

Hacienda Yanahurco (http://www.andeanbear.org/news/news2006-1/yanahurco.html) is located on the eastern slopes of the Cotopaxi volcano (the highest active volcano in the world) and is surrounded by the Cotopaxi National Park and the Antisana Ecological Reserve. Yanahurco is the largest privately owned ranch in Ecuador (approximately 24 750 hectares in area). The main habitats within this area are cloud forest, upper- montane forest and paramo (high altitude grassland).
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 01:28:50 AM
Hmmm...Puddin--it has that same kind of ring with those orange barrels or whatever...wonder if all cattle ranches use those?

Another contender in the ring!

Where exaactly is it?
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 01:48:34 AM
Heres the site  (http://www.haciendayanahurco.com/English/special1.html) and another link (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://ecuador-yanahurco.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DYanahurco%2Bhacienda%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGIH) ..they have condors, cattle, rodeo's, horses.
Hopefully tomorrow CBS fix's that picture of Phil  and makes it larger to download  :meow:.

eta more info:
HACIENDA YANAHURCO, Cotopaxi:

Hacienda Yanahurco is the largest Andean mountain ranch and private wildlife refuge in Ecuador (approx. 6500 acres). It is the only private refuge of this size in the Andes, and is, therefore, a sanctuary for a number of endangered species such as the magnificent Andean condor and the rare spectacle bear. Hacienda Yanahurco, which is open a limited number of tourists, is also run as a cattle ranch, so visitors can really experience the Andean way of life.

There are 10 guest rooms each with private washrooms. At Yanahurco visitors can take part in the following activities: horseback riding, trout fishing, fly fishing, photography, hiking, and bicycling. In November, the Yanahurco Rodeo is a unique and exceptional event where guests can participate actively by accompanying the cowboys on their long daily rides or simply watch from afar the strenuous task of rounding up the cattle
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 01, 2007, 01:55:07 AM
Looks promising!  :tup: Here's a photo set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whirley/sets/72157594395217137/) with pics from inside the corral; the red thingys are either gates or hide-behinds.
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 02:00:29 AM
Oh you spelled it different Slowhatch!!  :keeta:

Yanahourco (http://whirley.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/bulls-bulls-and-more-bulls/)
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 02:06:14 AM
 :dancer:

pardon my sloppy arrows
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 02:30:57 AM
Wow guys--based on the hill profiles behind Phil this one looks even more probable than the other! Another great detective job! :yess:

It is 60 miles southeast of Quito...

 :lol: Mirna's worst nightmare! More beef on the hoof!    :cow   Maybe rodeo style tasks would be what the teams would do?

Find me a phone # or email and I'll make some enquiries--looks like I'm cut out to be the new RFF press liason!  :flirt:

And what are we all doing up in the middle of the night anyway? Not obsessed or anything are we?? :lol:

 :nitenite:                          (Oh my...there is nasty icy white stuff falling in my neighborhood!)
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 02:49:40 AM
Look at this guys! Our TAR teams might have been there at just the right time for the annual roundup/rodeo!   :monk3:

For company outings, celebrations and conventions, the YANAHURCO Hacienda offers its installations and services for specific programs, in coordination with the companies requesting this kind of service. For this type of event, YANAHURCO can organize bullfighting festivals (without killing the bulls), with the help and participacion of bullfigters and their assistants. Bar and restaurant services, local music bands, fireworks, overnight accommodations, fishing, dancing, rock-ola music, C.D. player, etc. will be included. This tour has to be planned in coordination with the interested company, in accordance to its needs. Reservations are required 60 days in advance. The price of this tour is set depending on its specific conditions
 
  RODEO
Every year, approx. at the end of November, The YANAHURCO Hacienda undertakes the largest roundup of the Ecuadorian - Sierra, where the cattle of the Hacienda are rounded up with the assistance of about 100 cowboys during a two-week period.
   

   About 2000 heads of cattle are driven down to the ranch and, on the last day, herded into large corrals for vaccination, branding, and couting. Tourists can actively participate in this unique event, accompanying the cowboys on their long daily rides, or simply watch from afar the strenuous task of roundin up the cattle and admire the cowboys expert horse-riding, their dexterity with ropes and lassos, and their typical attire.
 
CAMPING

The YANAHURCO Hacienda has assigned a special site for those who wish to go camping. This campsite will provide the group (minimum 5 persons) with all the comfort and security they need for a pleasant, quiet, comfortable and unforgettable stay. The hacienda is a private property carefully managed at all times. Thus, ensuring the privacy of its visitors. The campsite includes the following: a large hut (5x5m) with grill and space for barbecues and a half bathroom. Electricity services at night, from 18:00 to 23:00. For persons who have no camping equipment, the hacienda offers the ¨blue house¨ with three bedrooms with complete bathroom and hot water for 14 persons (minimum 10 persons).
   
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 03:16:27 AM
Eating task?

From a blog in Otavalo....

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I had my first experience of a chicken´s foot beckoning me from the bottom of my soup bowl today! It´s apparently a local specialty and the locals actually chew the meat of the foot!
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Post by: TPorter2 on February 01, 2007, 06:04:32 AM
I just want to say that all of you spoiler peeps are awesome, I really enjoy reading about your finds! 
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Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 07:58:14 AM
Eating task?

From a blog in Otavalo....

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I had my first experience of a chicken´s foot beckoning me from the bottom of my soup bowl today! It´s apparently a local specialty and the locals actually chew the meat of the foot!

GEORGIA PEACH, that sounds like an eating task for China or Hong Kong. It may be available in Otavalo, but that is not a typical Ecuadorian meal. I've been to Otavalo and do not remember that as one of my dining options(and I wasn't eating at hotel restaurants). Here is what I found on Ecuadorian food and drink:

Ecuador is known for its fabulous exotic fruits, high quality fish and seafood, and the countless varieties of Andean potatoes. Across the country you'll find a broad spectrum of national and regional dishes, including lemon-marinated shrimp, toasted corn, and pastries stuffed with spiced meats. If you're feeling courageous, you can put your culinary bravery to the test with roasted cuy (guinea pig) or tronquito (bull penis soup).

At only pennies per bite, bakeries offer a delicious range of breads, sweet pastries, and savory snacks, such as empanadas (hot, crispy meat or cheese-filled pastries) and llapingachos (potato and cheese pancakes). Dishes sold in the street are also quite cheap, but hygiene is often questionable, and you may quickly surpass your intestinal limits. A good rule to follow is the "locals rule" -- if the place is frequented by many locals, the food probably merits joining the crowd.

The regular diet of rice, potatoes, and meat (beef and chicken everywhere, pork in the Sierra) is complimented by another national culinary institution, aji (hot sauce). Most Ecuadorian restaurants and homes have their own version of aji, each with its own intensity of "picante" (a word derived from the verb to bite or to sting), so sample a bit before smothering your food! If you don't see a little bowl of aji on your table, just ask they´ve surely got it. In addition to aji, basic dishes are usually accompanied by the proverbial rice, small salad, and potatoes or patacones (squashed, fried green bananas). On the coast and in the Amazon, potatoes are often supplemented or replaced by menestra (beans or lentils) or yuca.

Soups are without doubt Ecuador's specialty. Most lunches and dinners are accompanied by a savory soup as the first course. Locro soup, made with cheese, avocado and potato, sounds a bit odd, but is actually quite tasty. Chupe de pescado, a fish and vegetable soup with coastal origins, is becoming popular throughout the country. Bolder diners can try yaguarlocro, a potato soup made with sprinkings of blood. Those ready to throw their inhibitions completely to the wind should dip their spoon into caldo de pata, a broth containing chunks of boiled cow hooves, considered a delicacy by locals and believed by hopeful men to increase virility.

Other dishes found in your everyday restaurant or home include: seco de pollo (stewed chicken accompanied by rice and avocado slices); lomo salteado (thin beef steak covered with onions and tomatoes); and seco de chivo (goat stew served with a mound of rice. Tortillas de maiz (thin corn pancakes) and choclo (barbecued Andean corn) are sold by street vendors and make great snacks any time of day.

Seafood
Seafood is popular and plentiful throughout Ecuador. Lobster dinners can be enjoyed along the coast and in major cities for very low prices. In Esmeraldas province on the northern coast, your tastebuds will happily discover a new culinary twist with "encocados," seafood dishes prepared in coconut milk.

The signature dish of the country, however, is ceviche, a seafood dish marinated in lemon and onions -- Ecuador's answer to sushi. Unlike sushi however, Ecuadorian ceviche is always dished up with popcorn! Ceviche can be made of fish (de pescado), shrimp (de camarones), shellfish (de concha), squid (de calamari), or all of the above (mixta). Exercise caution, however, as improperly prepared ceviche --especially de concha-- has become one of the primary vectors for cholera and other nasty bacteria. Most restaurants are aware of this and act accordingly, but choose your dining establishment wisely.

Drinks
For the sake of your intestinal happiness, drink only bottled or boiled water, not water from the tap. Distilled and sparkling waters from Ecuadorian springs are available throughout the country and are of good quality. If you head for the tap, you´ll probably be heading for the bathroom, or worse, the doctor a few days later. Remember that tap water is frequently used in ice, so request your beverages "sin hielo" (without ice) in restaurants.

With the mouthwatering exotic fruits of Ecuador come delicious fruit juices, (jugos) including naranjilla (a cross between an orange and a tomato), tree tomato, mora (blackberry), guanabana (a luscious thick aromatic sweet white juice), maracuya (passion fruit) and papaya.

Bottled and canned fizzy drinks (including Coca Cola, Sprite and Fanta) are widely available throughout the country, as are teas and coffees. In spite of Ecuador's status as a coffee producing country, coffee quality is often rather disappointing, as the best beans are usually sent overseas. But if you can hunt down a good cafe you´ll be able to revel in some first-rate caffeine, made from home-grown beans.

Chicha is a traditional libation found throughout Andean countries, made from fermented maiz, rice or yuca (manioc). In some rural parts of Ecuador, the fermentation process is augmented by human saliva: Chicha makers (typically women) chew the ingredients and spit them back in the pot to brew. It´s not a good idea to sample it though, as hepatitis B is commonly passed with the bowl. A variety of Andean versions of Chicha exist that aren´t chewed and may be safe.

Not to be missed is the Andean drink of choice: canelazo (or canelito), a popular fiesta drink similar to a hot toddy, made of boiled water, sugar cane alcohol, lemon, sugar and cinnamon.

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Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 09:10:42 AM
YANAHOURCO

Apparently, this haceinda has the South American equivalent of the running of the bulls at Pamplona in LATE NOVEMBER every year as a major tourist attraction. This seems like another thing that the Amazing Race team would utilize as a task:

At Yanahourco bringing in the fighting bulls is as run of the mill as a British harvest time. Every year at the end of November (when the rains have begun to subside) chagras come riding in from villages up to 5 or 6 hours away to help with the round-up. For tourists the thrill of galloping full pelt down long grass tufted mountainsides, whilst avoiding the bulls which break free like meteors, is apparently second to none.

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
 :jumpy:

Nice work Puddin!

Perfect match.  Too bad GE is fuzzy there.
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Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 09:45:38 AM
Today I am having better luck in finding haciendas partipating in the bull roundup (not places that have to raise cows or cattle year-round onsite, which was my focus yesterday). I have discovered

HACIENDA LA ALEGRIA not very far from Hacienda Yanahourco. Its cattle roundtup tours are indicated at:

http://www.haciendalaalegria.com/en/Horseriding/rodeos.htm

The roundrup picture looks the same as one of the ones from Yanahourco, not surprising since it appears to be a common activity for area ranchers. I see no evidence of the circular enclosures on the pictures, but they may exist on the grounds. I still think Yanahourco is more probable, but it's not a done deal yet.

( just trying to help here apskip...I took the [sub ] out of your url link. Just hit modify on this message ( above, right hand corner ) to see how I did it it is fine without the code. On the other hand if you want to try using the code it would look like this haciendalaalegria  (http://www.haciendalaalegria.com/en/Horseriding/rodeos.htm) << you have to insert the annoying = in after the first [url then = http:// whatever . com ]  hacienda blah blah [ url]
without the spaces. Either way is fine, we aren't  fussy here, pretty laid back if you ask me. puddin)
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
Chateau-- :waves:

Can you get us from the hacienda to the Atacama Desert? And maybe from Quito to there? I love having a map but Google Earth hates me....

And I am about to make some phone calls--anything we want to ask for sure? (Hope the haciendda folks hablo English! ;D)
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Post by: Kogs on February 01, 2007, 10:07:44 AM
Chateau-- :waves:

Can you get us from the hacienda to the Atacama Desert? And maybe from Quito to there? I love having a map but Google Earth hates me....

And I am about to make some phone calls--anything we want to ask for sure? (Hope the haciendda folks hablo English! ;D)

espanoeol peach?
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 10:17:01 AM
I don't have GE on my work pc.   :'(
So I can't help until I get home.


For the phone call:  Start with this!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 10:26:37 AM
heee....sadly--"Yo no hablo espańol"

Chateau--would you rather call? I'm willing but if anyone else wants to it is okay! Otherwise I'm calling in just a few minutes--just working on my list of Q's!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 10:32:04 AM
I wouldn't be able to do it until I get home this evening.

Good Luck!

Did you find anything out from the Deering Estate?
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 10:34:54 AM
OOPS  :lol: Good luck peach!!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 10:40:19 AM
I spoke briefly with the coordinator at the Deering Estate but she was with a bride--so we have an appt to talk at 2!

Okay--here goes nothing for the hacienda!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
 :woohoo: Definitely the right place!  Charming man on the phone--apparently they have a press release or something so he is emailing me that--then I can call back if I have more questions!  :jumpy:
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Post by: Kogs on February 01, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
:woohoo: Definitely the right place!  Charming man on the phone--apparently they have a press release or something so he is emailing me that--then I can call back if I have more questions!  :jumpy:
excallent work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 10:51:33 AM
:woohoo: Definitely the right place!  Charming man on the phone--apparently they have a press release or something so he is emailing me that--then I can call back if I have more questions!  :jumpy:
alright peach  :woohoo:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 11:33:09 AM
This is so much fun! I'm your girl whenever we need to do this!!

Fernando (very charming--I'm picturing a tall, dark, and handsome cowboy!  :flirt: ) and I had a long chat about the Hacienda in general--no new information though. For special questions, he preferred that I submit them in an email and he will send me the prepared sheet and try to answer anything else I asked. The contact link was not working for me, so he gave me his direct email and I've sent off a very nice (and nosy!) list of prepared questions. And I'm to call back if I need more information!

Oh, and they will be having the annual round-up of the wild horses in March and we're invited!

I feel a vacation coming on! :lol:

Hopefully I will do as well at the Deering Estate at 2! Thanks for letting me do this--I'm having a blast!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 12:00:57 PM
DARN! Thought I would actually find out something...Oh, well,at least we know that it is the right place! (I had asked about what it was like for them and about other films...)

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Thanks for your mail.
Sorry,I can´t tell you nothing about the film, becouse a signed a contract with them, in which nothing can be set, film or discrive about that event. But I can tell you that all was nice for me and my people. A super experience for all of us. This is not the firts time a film was done at my ranch, this is the 4 time that a USA company uses Yanahurco for a film. Also Paramount pictures have done 2 films.
I am sending you all the inf. attach, about my ranch and turism on it. Hope you like it.
Saludos.
Fernando

(the attachment was mostly stuff we already know...)
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
So was it for the PitStop or just a detour/roadblock?
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 12:12:08 PM
My guess is pitstop because we talked about having so many people come to the ranch--but I can't say with any certainty. Sorry!

Any luck with mapping this out? How are they getting to the desert?


Fernando Cobo P., the ranch owner and host “patron” of Yanahurco welcomes you to your most exciting and unforgettable adventure in the Ecuadorian highlands. 


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GENERAL INFORMATION ON YANAHURCO


Location: Yanahurco is located 100 km from Quito, behind the Cotopaxi National Park to the southeastern side of the Cotopaxi Volcano. It is approximately 3 and half hours away from Quito in a 4x4 car drive. 
Altitude:  3.550 to 4.200m above sea level or ranging from 11.000 ft. to 13.000 ft
Weather:  During the summer, from October to May, days are sunny with clear blue skies, sporadic rainfalls, and moderate winds. Temperatures vary from 5şC to 18şC   or from 41şF to 64şF. In winter, from June to September, it is rainy and cloudy with fast winds. Temperatures vary from 0 to 10şC or from 32şF to 50şF.
Flora:   A variety of trees, highland plants and typical flowers of the Ecuadorian Andes are found everywhere and abundantly around the waterfall many of which are considered living relics. Some areas within the hacienda have microclimates such as the Jatuncocha Lake located in the eastern section of the ranch.
Fauna:  A grand variety of species of birds such as the Andean hummingbirds, falcons, and Andean condor, hawks and eagles are found here.  It is the ideal place for ornithologists and bird watchers. Mammals like Andean wolves, lions, deer, spectacled black bears, tapir, wild goats, rabbits, wild horses and wild bulls called Cimarrones are found on the hacienda.
Museum: The ranch has a small interpretation center where you can admire samples of some of the most important wild animals and plants on the hacienda.
Fishing: Only sport fishing allowed.
Hunting: Forbidden.
Horses: More than 80 tamed highland horses.
Access: Restricted.  Only for guests.
Transportation: Vehicles 4x 4 equipped with radio communications, not included in the rates. Please contact us or your travel agency for costs.
Accommodations: 12 double and triple cabins with full bath, fireplace or furnace, and the hacienda has 110 AC electric light.
Meals:  Typical Ecuadorian and international meals, bottled water for drinking or soft drinks, and bar service.
What to bring: warm clothes, hat, scarf, gloves, sun protector, jacket, rubber boots, and sleeping bag only for lagoon tour.  Bring along your photo or video camera.
Communications: Private radio communication to Quito.
Emergencies: The ranch has first-aid equipment,

Note: In all tours and during your stay at the ranch, constant advice and information is given to the visitors. The ranch will not be responsible for personal accidents that may occur. You will be required to sign an insurance waiver.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 12:42:12 PM
The picture caption tells us it was the pitstop .. sorta reminds me of the Mongolia TAR 10 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR9_Promo2/tar10/7-24-20060020.jpg) pitstop...ahh flaming arrows (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR9_Promo2/tar10/9-21-20060010.jpg), good times!

"Episode 1101" -- Host Phil Keoghan waits as teams race to the Pitstop on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, which airs on the CBS Television Network. Photo (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/95715_D1589r.jpg)
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 12:51:43 PM
And puddin--if I forgot to say yesterday--

 :congrats: AWESOME job finding this! No wonder you are the "Chief" of the "Detective Agency"!


And thanks apskip for all the menus--now I'm starving!



And a big welcome to TPorter2! :welcome: It is nice to see you over here too!



I still feel sorry for Mirna and the cows! :mechbull:    :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: reality.tv. on February 01, 2007, 01:43:08 PM
Are you calling Mirna a cow??  :o
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 01:54:44 PM
Are you calling Mirna a cow??  :o


Heavens! No way!

I just remember that she doesn't like beef and was afraid of the cows before! I posted a link way upstream if you need to re-remember why!
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 03:01:00 PM
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Good Luck!

Did you find anything out from the Deering Estate?

Well, team, we are on a roll! :dancer:!!

I have confirmation that CBS (interesting that it was listed as CBS not WRP) was filming on site at The Deering Estate from 0600 until about noon on November 20th!

And also confirmed (for Slowhatch :kuss:) that cigarette boats are allowed into their boat basin with "special permission" and that indeed, they were used!

And she was not entirely clear about the details but did believe that there were cars available for them as well!

Such a GREAT day in RFF land! Awesome work, everybody! :werock:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Kogs on February 01, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
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Good Luck!

Did you find anything out from the Deering Estate?

Well, team, we are on a roll! :dancer:!!

I have confirmation that CBS (interesting that it was listed as CBS not WRP) was filming on site at The Deering Estate from 0600 until about noon on November 20th!

And also confirmed (for Slowhatch :kuss:) that cigarette boats are allowed into their boat basin with "special permission" and that indeed, they were used!

And she was not entirely clear about the details but did believe that there were cars available for them as well!

Such a GREAT day in RFF land! Awesome work, everybody! :werock:


so if there were cars this would make the second time there has been 2 sets of cars availible to the racers on a leg in the amazing race
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 04:26:19 PM
Chateau-- :waves:

Can you get us from the hacienda to the Atacama Desert? And maybe from Quito to there? I love having a map but Google Earth hates me....

And I am about to make some phone calls--anything we want to ask for sure? (Hope the haciendda folks hablo English! ;D)

Since nobody has risen to the Google Earth opportunity, I will repeat what I stated in post #1119, page 45 of the AR11 SPOILERS thread. First, you go back to Quito airport. then you do one of the following, depending on which city is most appropriate given the actual clue given out at the Ecuador pitstop:

For leg 2 from Quito to each of the three Atacama desert cities, there are these possibilities for flying, all but two involving an overnight flight from Quito through Santiago:

QUITO to ARICA
departs 1805 through Lima and Santiago arriving 1050
departs 2145 through Santiago arriving 1320

QUITO to IQUIQUE
departs 2145 through Santiago arriving 1045 or 1135
departs 0740 through Panama City (?? 1000 miles north) and Santiago arriving 0045 next day
departs 1805 through Lima and Santa Cruz Bolivia arriving 0550

QUITO to ANTOFAGASTA
departs 2145 through Santiago arriving 0925 or 1015
departs 1805 through Lima and Santiago arriving 0845

I hope this satisfies your request, GEORGIAPEACH.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on February 01, 2007, 04:45:40 PM
Hmmmmm only 12 cabins at the Hacienda.  11 teams and Phil.  Where do all the crews members, producers, TPTB, hanger oners, etc. stay?  Seems like the only place could be back in Quito.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 04:51:23 PM
GINGERMAN28, there are at least 10 other haciendas providing accomodations to tourists in the Cotopaxi region that I discovered while searching for any other haciendas that are involved in the cattle roundup (I only found one). There should not have been a problem as long as the Amazing Race production unit made reservations well in advance, which they would have done.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 04:59:34 PM
Hmmmmm only 12 cabins at the Hacienda.  11 teams and Phil.  Where do all the crews members, producers, TPTB, hanger oners, etc. stay?  Seems like the only place could be back in Quito.

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CAMPING

The YANAHURCO Hacienda has assigned a special site for those who wish to go camping. This campsite will provide the group (minimum 5 persons) with all the comfort and security they need for a pleasant, quiet, comfortable and unforgettable stay. The hacienda is a private property carefully managed at all times. Thus, ensuring the privacy of its visitors. The campsite includes the following: a large hut (5x5m) with grill and space for barbecues and a half bathroom. Electricity services at night, from 18:00 to 23:00. For persons who have no camping equipment, the hacienda offers the ¨blue house¨ with three bedrooms with complete bathroom and hot water for 14 persons (minimum 10 persons).


Fernando and I talked about how the have lots of facilities for camping PLUS the guest house. Of course this all was just in a theoretical kind of way, as he was very careful not to confirm or deny anything on the phone.

I did get the feeling that this is a little bit "off the beaten track"--needs 4 wheel drive to get around, etc...so my guess is that they all stay right here. Fernando is used to coping with movie crews etc so I think they could probably manage our crew!
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 06:39:14 PM
Camping? hmm maybe we will see Phil pitch a tent  :flirt:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: mswood on February 01, 2007, 07:03:01 PM
Camping? hmm maybe we will see Phil pitch a tent  :flirt:
Thats not the type of tent I want to see Phil pitch puddin. :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: mswood on February 01, 2007, 07:04:39 PM
Puddin

It looks like you have converted Peach and apskip.  Tehy'll never look at hte race the same way again. :jam:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on February 01, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
In Whirley's Yanahourco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whirley/sets/72157594395217137/) set cited earlier, there's a campground picture called "tourist-ville." While this might be ok for the racers, it doesn't answer where the crew might stay; we'll probably know after the Ep 01 credits roll. A couple of other things about the album: she apparently missed the racers by only a day or so; and her viewpoint for some of the photos seems to match the pit-stop view.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 07:52:33 PM
I looked through Whirley's slideshow Slowhatch...it was a good find  :tup:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 08:06:44 PM
It looks like they did overlap in time at the ranch:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on February 01, 2007, 08:16:44 PM
This on was taken on the 23rd.  I figure that teams arrived on the 21st or 22nd.  And then they leave on the 22nd or 23rd!

Wow, so close.  Let's look closely at these pix.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
There is a tour called ANDES CATTLE ROUNDUP. Part of the tour took place at Hacienda Yanahurco:

Day 5: Monday, 13 November
Today will be your grand opportunity to canter in some parts of the ride: crossing terrain that resembles the lunar surface, pass the Santo Domingo Lake; descend to the Vicious Valley, a canyon formed by the Cotopaxi lava flow route; and spot along the ride herds of wild horses, fox, deer and birds of the area. A hardy welcome will be given to the riders by the personnel at Yanahurco Hacienda, the largest hacienda in the Ecuadorian highland with its 72,000 acres. Its spectacular chagra traditions and farm life will enchant you from the moment you reach its premises. After Lunch, we receive the chagras that will work in the farm cattle round- up, explore the surroundings of Yanahurco by foot and admire this vast, widespread region that has preserved various endangered animal habitats. At night, enjoy a briefing of Yanahurco`s attractions and activities such as its annual cattle rodeo and its wild horse rodeo by a sparkling fireplace. Sleep in comfortable private rooms, warmed by furnaces, quits, and hot water bags for your delight. A hot water shower will surely be comforting after this wonderful and exciting day is over......
Day 6: Tuesday, 14 November
Today you will be given the chance to ride with real chagras, mustering wild fighting bulls in the most incredible mountain environment. Everyone saddles up to ride and gathers by horseback in a semi-circle in front of the "patron" (owner of the hacienda) and head of the chagras to be given the riding instructions for the day. The circle of mounted chagras and riders is a colourful sight you will surely find incredible. You will be assigned a chagra who takes care of you for the day and makes sure you will be safe at all moments. We ride up the "páramo" to the high ridges surrounding the local mountains, climbing from 3600 to 4000 m. Listen to the loud series of calls and whistles the chagras accustom to communicate amongst each other in order to indicate the position of the various bull groups - "vaca jaja!", "vaca carajo!" are samples of the echoes heard in this vast, beautiful land where everyone participates from their positions. Gradually each rider works his/her way down pushing the cattle ahead down into the valley bottom. Some of the "bravo" bulls are lassoed with two ropes and expertly driven into the corrals. You can participate in this exhilarating work or hang back and watch. These bulls are undeniably "wild" and have bred from Spanish fighting stock, so you must be an experienced rider to join in. After a long ride east towards the gateway to the jungle, passing rain forests and land of wild cattle, at mid-day you reach the spectacular Jatuncocha Lake (800 m long and 600 m wide). A rustic campsite stands next to this solitary and untouched site.
Overnight accommodations are waiting for you and your team of riders and horses. Enjoy preparing trout you have fished during the evening next to a warm campfire and eat a delightful dinner which the chagras will serve. Sleep tight in your sleeping bag under a pitch black night sky covered with twinkling stars reflected on the calm waters of the lake and hearing only the sound of silence inside a typical highland grass hut.

This could have been precisely one week before the arrival of AR11 on Nov. 20 (or maybe 21st if they went elsewhere in Ecuador first).
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 08:35:08 PM
Chateau--here is a  link  (http://whirley.wordpress.com/page/5/) to the relevant parts of her blog--but there is no info about the race that I can find.

On another subject, could you maybe post a decent map of Ecuador? It would really help me if I could have Quito, the hacienda, and the other airport (Guayaquil) on there, and maybe the equator place too? I'm trying to figure out where else our racers might go but the little map I'm using isn't doing the job!  And if you wanted to do Chile too (especially with the desert on there)...I'd be grateful!


This is all I have  :(    I need a pretty map!    :please:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on February 01, 2007, 08:39:48 PM
Still haven't found a decent opposite view yet. If you enable Panoramio in GE you can get the lat-long--as Chateau mentioned, it's in the fuzzylands--as well as access to this photo (original size here (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/579601.jpg)). You can see the earthen corral and wooden rodeo ring. The pit stop might be on top of the small hill, but judging by the perspective I'm thinking it's only halfway up.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 09:17:15 PM
GEORGIAPEACH, here is a better road map of Ecuador(once you click on it, please expand it to 250% for best viewing):

 ECUADOR ROAD MAP  (http://exploringecuador.com/maps/ecuador_road_map.htm)

Quito is clearly marked. You need to go down to Lasso on the main highway and then go east a few miles to get to the area when Yanahurco is. The hacienda is not identified on the map. Otavalo is clearly marked to the north of Quito right on the main highway(it happens to be the Pan American if I remember correctly).

Here is a map of Cotopaxi province where Yanahurco is(again after clicking expand to 250%):

 COTOPAXI PROVINCE MAP  (http://exploringecuador.com/maps/mapas_provincias/grandes/cotopaxi/cotopaxi_map.htm)

Although it is easy to find two places with the name Yanahurco, there is no marking for Hacienda Yanahurco.

Chile is weirdly shaped, due to being no more than about 100 miles wide and 3000 miles long, so maps showing the entire Atacama Desert could be difficult. I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: charlierose on February 01, 2007, 09:37:25 PM
Hi you guys!! I am amazed on all the hard work you have done. You are the best!!

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I have a question. I have read and read all the posts and do not get this. On the captions of the preview someone says "Peru is nice".  What does Peru has to do in all this. They go to Ecuador and Chile. Does that caption is just to lead us on the wrong way or what??

Another thing, If you need a translation for Spanish, I could help you guys, Spanish is my native language.

Can wait for the 18.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 01, 2007, 09:41:41 PM
CHARLIEROSE, one of the team of Kevin and Drew made that comment, so the other one corrected him by reminding him that they were actually racing in Ecuador (so how would he know that Peru was nice!). this was a typical non-sequitur that Kevin and Drew used a lot of in AR1.

Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: charlierose on February 01, 2007, 09:42:58 PM
Thanks!!
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 10:30:25 PM
Apskip!  :thankyou:

Those are great maps--MUCH better than what I was struggling with! I'll try to post them (unless they are too big) so that anyone else who is feeling map deprived  doesn't have to suffer any more! Don't know why I couldn't find a good one--so thank you! Thank you!

I wa struck by the dates today--we know they flew out of Miami on Nov 20, arriving in Quito late-ish that evening. And we know that they were at our hacienda on 11/21 (or at least Phil was based on the date on his photo). The teams aren't seen again until we see The Guidos on 11/28. So that's a whole week. Now certainly an extended pitstop could affect the schedule, but I kept thinking 2 days Quito-Hacienda, ?2days Chile (desert), ? 2+ days Ushaia ( and maybe Antarctica--fingers crossed). So just in case we have a spare day in Ecuador, I wanted to do some further exploration--so that's what I'm working on.



Camping? hmm maybe we will see Phil pitch a tent  :flirt:
Thats not the type of tent I want to see Phil pitch puddin. :lol:
Girls!!  :o :-[ :o   (but you can count me in too!  :yum: )


Puddin

It looks like you have converted Peach and apskip.  Tehy'll never look at hte race the same way again. :jam:

Awww....she had me at hello! :blume:
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: Slowhatch on February 01, 2007, 10:49:11 PM
Some of the maps required an activex control download, so I'll save everyone the trouble. The ranch, on the eastern slopes of cotopaxi, would seem to be at the dead end of a road that branches out of Machachi (home of the chagra cowboy); so take the Pan-Am highway from Quito to Machachi and hang a left.
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 10:49:41 PM
This on was taken on the 23rd.  I figure that teams arrived on the 21st or 22nd.  And then they leave on the 22nd or 23rd!

Wow, so close.  Let's look closely at these pix.
The data on Phils pitstop picture, waiting for the racers was 11/21/2006 :)
Apskip thanks for the map links and HEY you figured the linky thing out   :jam: !!
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 10:54:42 PM
Almost forgot..peach's new man  :angel:

Fernando Cobo
(Yanahurco’s Coordinator)
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2007, 11:04:43 PM
Puddin !! Wheee!

:luvu:   I TOLD y'all he was charming!  :fan:

I always was a sucker for a guy with a  nice accent....

Hmmm....I feel a new avatar coming on!

Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2007, 11:21:37 PM
 :lol:

heres some pictures we might see in the introcaps around cotopaxi park..
Title: Re: EP1 Vidcaps
Post by: apskip on February 02, 2007, 07:47:02 AM
GEORGIAPEACH stated "I was struck by the dates today--we know they flew out of Miami on Nov 20, arriving in Quito late-ish that evening. And we know that they were at our hacienda on 11/21 (or at least Phil was based on the date on his photo). The teams aren't seen again until we see The Guidos on 11/28. So that's a whole week. Now certainly an extended pitstop could affect the schedule, but I kept thinking 2 days Quito-Hacienda, ?2days Chile (desert), ? 2+ days Ushuaia ( and maybe Antarctica--fingers crossed). So just in case we have a spare day in Ecuador, I wanted to do some further exploration--so that's what I'm working on."

It does take most of 24 hours (assuming you start late morning from a pit stop in Ecuador) to get to any Atacama Desert city. My thoughts are:
1. that it is too early for an extended 36 hour rest stop,
2. that tasks around Ushuaia and Cape Horn are not likely to have consumed more than one day, and
3. that the obvious conclusion is the trip to Ushuaia is preceded by going through Puntas Arenas (possibly just to change planes) and
then to/from Antarctica for 24 hours plus a trip from Puntas Arenas one-way by plane or bus to Ushuaia.
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 12:13:06 PM
I have a serious problem with Episode 1 and I need your opinion...

Where is the DRAMA? Where is the HOOK?

I'm talking ziplines, bungee over Victoria Falls, parachute from 20,000 feet, ascend the Great Wall of China----knock-your-socks-off "let's reel in  10 million more viewers" first episode excitement!!

So far we have deliver teams by cigarette boat, team intros, get to Miami airport, (all not exactly sit-on-the-edge-of your-seat), flight to Quito, arrive about 8:08 with daylight until 10 PM or so, run for taxis...Maybe go into Quito? I still think that going on to our Equator monument would be good visuals, and that is what I would choose.
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La Mitad del Mundo--Literally "The Middle of the World," this monument marks the spot where in 1736 Charles-Marie de la Condamine's scientific expedition made measurements that verified the location of the equator. Hosting a model of colonial Quito, a planetarium, a ethnographic museum, and a number of restaurants, this monument is a very popular attraction. Also, the brilliant yellow line splitting the world in two, makes for an irresistible photo opportunity with a foot in each hemisphere. A trip to the monument is often included as an afternoon segment of Quito city tours, but it is easily an excursion on its own

Then what? We know we eventually end up at Hacienda Yanahurco, with the Roadblock almost certainly some sort of rodeo/roadblock task. We know Phil was there on the 21st, leading us to think that the teams arrive that day also--but it is possible that his photos were taken one day early. It takes 3-4 hours to drive from Quito to Yanahurco over rough roads, and allowing say 3 hours or so for the roadblock, we still have at least till 2 or 3 on the 21st for our "detour is a choice between 2 options" event.

So depending on whether or not we think they have just the 1st part of the day on the 21st --and remember it is light by 4:30to 5 AM sunrise at 5:56 AM--(which keeps us nearby either Quito or the ranch), or possibly an extra day letting us go slightly further afield--what options do we have for DRAMA, you ask?

Me too! I've been looking for possibilities for two days, and the options are not plentiful. Here's what I have so far:

In or nearby Quito:
---There is a cable car--(remember the "emergency/exit rapel down from a cable car from a previous season?)
---There is also
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Bungee jumping.- Is practiced every Sunday morning through Andes Bungee. Tel. 2524796.
--- And there is Paragliding;
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Where else can you paraglide from a volcanic peak a half-hour from a major metropolitan center? Several paragliding schools can be found within an hour of Quito. You can take a week-long training course, or entrust yourself to an experienced pilot on a tandem flight. Flights last around 10-25 minutes depending on the air currents, take place in the morning for maximum airlift. According to aficionados, trying to imitate a condor feels surprisingly natural - and you certainly won't get any better views.

(Escuela Pichincha de Vuelo Libre.- Address: Carlos Endara Oe3-60 and Amazonas. Tel. 2256592. Complete courses offered)
---and there is an active volcano (Guagua Pinchincha) on the outskirts of town with crater walks available

More to follow...
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 12:36:50 PM
Slightly further afield:

There is Banos  (http://www.destination360.com/south-america/ecuador/banos.php)with an awesome bridge/bungee jump--but I've sadly ruled this out due to lack of time..

And then there is Mindo which has several possibilities (I like this place!) but might also be out due to time constraints--but I think it is only 2 1/2 hours away. For transport/directions:
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Cooperativa Flor del Valle (M. Larrea and Asunción) leaves frequently from Quito (US$2, 3 hours). Also, the best access from Quito to Mindo is via the Calcalí-Esmeraldas road in a turnoff at Km 59 to the left leads you to Mindo

In Mindo:

--there is a rickety bridge
---rafting and tubing
---a zipline/cage thingy
--a 30 foot waterfall jump
--and -my favorite--rapelling down the waterfall (in the picture--see the red dot on the upper waterfall? That is the person!)

Still more to come...
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 12:39:08 PM
Mindo waterfall rapel...
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on February 04, 2007, 12:52:27 PM
Here's Drama!   :lol3:

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Charla almost left her passport and ticket with the ticket agent. He had to call her back to get them.
Title: Re: Amazing Race 11 All Stars ..*spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 01:06:20 PM
Here's Drama!   :lol3:

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Charla almost left her passport and ticket with the ticket agent. He had to call her back to get them.

Not quite what I'm hoping for!


Closer to the ranch--there is Cotapaxi National Park--home of the world's tallest active volcano--

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Cotopaxi National Park - Ecuador

An hour and a half South of Quito, along the Avenue of the Volcanoes, lays the dominant image on the Ecuadorian national psyche: the perfectly conical Cotopaxi volcano (altitude 5897m), claiming to be the world's highest active volcano. Even novice climbers can summit the glacier-topped peak with the help of a good guide, glacier climbing equipment and a hardy jacket. The views from the top on a clear day are incredible. Even so, it's a physically demanding climb, (if not technically demanding depending on snowfall and current glacier conditions) so proper acclimatization, good fitness, and training is essential. A week in Quito or any other Andean town with ample walking and summiting of a lesser peak or two should be sufficient.

Walking from the parking lot to the Refugio (base camp) is a popular and (literally) breathtaking activity. It takes an hour or so, and you must dress for cold, windy and possibly snowy weather.

Mountain biking in Cotopaxi is a spectacular once-in-a-lifetime experience. Descend from the refugio parking lot cutting through the thin air at bone chilling speed. Most of the park is (ironically) very flat due to historical eruptions that caused the glacier to melt and form literally flat lake beds around the volcano. This is all good news, since riding uphill at this altitude, you´re likely to bust a lung - or two.

There are popular treks that go around the volcano and another, called Trek of the Condor, which starts near Papallacta, passes near Volcan Antisana and finishes at Cotopaxi.

Cotopaxi Volcano, Ecuador information provided by Live Travel Guides
 
 
 


Mountain biking--maybe..she says doubtfully..remember the controversy over not giving Charla a child sized bike?

And I think climbing here is unlikely for 2 reasons-- that they are not acclimated and I don't think TPTB want to kill them (this is serious mountaineering!) and time constraints again.

So that's my ideas (Hee...I want to be a TAR route planner!) . What are yours??
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: mswood on February 04, 2007, 02:54:03 PM
Peach

Some very cool ideas, but I am really wondering if this first episode is going to have not only the actual time (during the filming of the episode), but in the 42 minutes edit of the episode that airs to show much.

I could see the bungee (which I do like, but I would prefer a non passive task), so I wouldn't mind that waterfall repel.

Biking doesn't seem visually interesting enough.

It might even be something, that isn't visual but task heavy like in seeason ten which featured the building of a walkway.  Where it would be much harder to guess on possible local possabilities.

I also wouldn't be surprised if either only one tasks is created for ths episdoe or if one task is edited out.  Something to look closely for when reviewing the episdoe when it airs.
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 03:02:06 PM
Just saw a commercial! Dustin & Kandice in what I assume, coming in on a speedboat ..same for Romber who are sharing their boat with Kevin & Drew!

boat name DONZI  (http://www.boatsville.com/boating_how_to.cfm?tipID=132)

Oh cool more Miami Vice!
Miami Vice Donzi's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QliQyNj3Mjs
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: Kogs on February 04, 2007, 03:05:17 PM
puddin check ur mail :kuss:
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 03:06:36 PM

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Some very cool ideas, but I am really wondering if this first episode is going to have not only the actual time (during the filming of the episode), but in the 42 minutes edit of the episode that airs to show much

I know! Doggone CBS anyway! We NEED a two hour premiere!

I was thinking the WOW factor for ratings--this is the week to try to grab viewers and we need excitement--so far it seems a little blah...

And the next week we have the Academy Awards to contend with so can't count on that for a ratings bonanza.

Let's keep hoping for a dynamite preview during the game!

And in honor of Kogs--GO BEARS!!!
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 03:09:34 PM
thanks Kogs!!!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/04Feb0001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/04Feb0002.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/04Feb0003.jpg)
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 03:26:30 PM
30 seconds of Super Bowl commercial time = $2.6 million!

That might be all we get....

Let's see the level of CBS commitment!
Title: Re: EP1 ( title someday ;) )
Post by: Whirley on February 04, 2007, 03:28:08 PM
Yes, I can confirm that CBS were filming at Hacienda Yanaourco as we arrived with my guests on their riding holiday tour in November. 'fraid I don't know who got eliminated, only that the TV crew got a truck stuck and had to leave it in the river.

Anyone know where I can watch the episode on TV from the UK (I was in Ecuador and am now back in England)? And since you've already found my blog and helped yourself to the pics ;) ... do let me know if I can help you out with any more info.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 04, 2007, 03:34:23 PM
Welcome ecuadorgirl !   :jumpy:

Thanks for coming here.


Can you tell us the times that things happened at the hacienda!
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Post by: apskip on February 04, 2007, 03:34:37 PM
GEORGIAPEACH, you were speculating about the length of a day in Quito on Nov. 21. I have the answer. Sunrise was at 556am and sunset at 604pm. It is a 12 hour 8 minute day due to being on the equator. First light would not be until after 5am. Twilight would not linger past 7pm. That means a maximum light of 14 hours. However, since when has no light stopped the Amazing Race?
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Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 03:35:40 PM
Thief's ! OMG we are hopeless thief's  :groan: !! I don't know whether to laugh or cry ecuadorgirl  :lol: ? This is the extent us hopeless Amazing Race fans will go through, so sorry  :naughty:.
Nice to meet you and welcome theecuadorgirl  :hithere:



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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 03:36:03 PM
Oh Whirley!  :hello2: :welcome:

We loved your blog! And absolutely beautiful photos!

I'm so glad you found us--do hope you don't mind that we hijacked your blog!

You overlapped with the Race--did you know that they were filming? Did you see anything? Any ideas what the task was? We assume a rodeo/roundup task---
Most important--was it the 21st or 22nd that most was filmed/

I wonder if they'll show that truck in the river!

Oh welcome!  :wohoo:
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Post by: Whirley on February 04, 2007, 03:44:43 PM
hello hello - i feel sooo welcome

Have just checked back in my diary, and I think that most would have been filmed on the 21st Nov, as we saw a fair few nice new TV trucks leaving on the road out on the 22nd.

We brought the wild cattle in on the 23rd, but the hacienda do a horse round-up first. So maybe they were taking part in that? I honestly don't know. I'd ask my mates who are still out there, but there internet access - understandably considering the terrain - is a little infrequent.

hope that helps!!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 04, 2007, 03:50:46 PM
Thanks ecuadorgirl !

We think (well at least I do) that they may have been doing a rodeo type activity on the afternoon of the 21st.

Do you think that was what happened?
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 03:53:09 PM
What fun!

How did you find us??!  ???

Did your blog have a "stop thief" warning on it?  ;D

And is Fernando as nice in person as he is on the phone? :flirt:

We'll find you a way to see the show--maybe on youtube or if you have a US compatible VCR, I'll make you a tape and send it to you with our thanks and apologies!

And this has to be your new avatar!
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Post by: Whirley on February 04, 2007, 03:55:27 PM
Yes, that's really really likely. there's a spectacle bear reserve there but you hardly ever see bears, they'll have been lassoing and branding's my guess.

NB the drive from Yanahourco to Quito is fairly long. about 3 hours to anywhere civilised. and another 2 to the airport.
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Post by: Whirley on February 04, 2007, 04:04:13 PM
Yup, my blog recorded a number of visits from the forum, so I had a nosey around...

Fernando's cool. Although it's a nightmare organising the round-up tour, it's so isolated and the Ecuadorian's are forever changing plans.

And I'd love a copy digital or otherwise of the show.

Honestly wish I could help more!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 04:13:06 PM
Listen, it was thanks to your great photos that puddin was able to photo match the Hacienda anyway! (Do you have more that aren't on Flickr yet?)

And Fernando can't tell us anything because of his confidentiality clause with CBS, but we still have two weeks to go before the show airs--so if you could put out some feelers with your friends that would be great!

Do you think the teams would have camped out where you did?

Have you ever seen the show? I know old seasons do air in the UK...

How is it being back home?
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Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 04:20:43 PM
Yup, my blog recorded a number of visits from the forum, so I had a nosey around...

Oh My God we are pathetic  :lol: Thanks for sharing ecuadorgirl ! I truly enjoyed reading you blog and looking through the pictures.

Listen, it was thanks to your great photos that puddin was able to photo match the Hacienda anyway!
I plead the fifth  :angel: !!


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Post by: mswood on February 04, 2007, 04:30:35 PM
Thats just so awesome.

You guys have been busted.  In the nicest possible way.  So very cool.

And yeah, I would guess that a rodeo based tasks or event is highly likely.
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Post by: mswood on February 04, 2007, 04:32:25 PM
30 seconds of Super Bowl commercial time = $2.6 million!

That might be all we get....

Let's see the level of CBS commitment!

Well we might not get much Superbowl activity for the race.  But CBS will likely schedule ads throughout the day and night knowing they will have higher viewing numbers then usual.
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Post by: Whirley on February 04, 2007, 04:35:57 PM
Okay, will see if any of my mates can get in touch with the guys who work there... no promises  ;)

There are two campsite areas at the hacienda, and I remember discussion that they had one further away from the buildings and corals - it's still not that far though, only a few minutes walk. They might have had some altitude sickness if they were rushed in from Quito, as it's at about 4000meters and people suffer altitude sickess on arrival in Quito at 2800m.

At Yanahurco there is a main house and some other basic accommodation that visiting cowboy types use. The head cattle man there is a guy called Ernesto - if you can speak to him you might get more info than from Fernando... And I don't have any more pics really, all the decent ones are up there.

We don't get the show over here at all, as far as I know.

Will let you know if I get any info   :js:

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 04:44:09 PM
Thanks, Whirley! (I'm having trouble with theecuadorgirl--you are Whirley to us!)

Thanks for being such a good sport about the blog and your pictures--we appreciate it!   :thankyou:

They do show old seasons of the show over there, but they are several seasons behind. But we'll figure out a way for you to get hooked on the show!

What an awesome experience you had....

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Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 05:05:39 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/hemademe.gif)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/95715_D1589r.jpg)

Thank you so very much Whirley, your always welcomed here ..you can see how friendly we are  :horsey: :ride:  :ya3:
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Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 05:12:41 PM
...

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 05:36:43 PM
That's a condor, and they have nesting sites at Yanahurco...
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
More pics from Whirley's friend...

You can see the whole lot (350+)  here  (http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/ShareLandingSignin.jsp?Uc=wrtxhj1.bwqsxj6d&Uy=8r656y&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=1&UV=261575742766_425108194133) but requires Kodak registration...
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 06:29:16 PM
More...
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 06:33:24 PM
More...
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 06:48:23 PM
More from Whirley in reply to "Do you think they drove themselves?" and "where were the photos from above taken from?"

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they probably did drive themselves (out at least, in, I don't think so), there's only one road out, via a locked security gate, of the hacienda estate. it's a rough lava track and they'll have driven past the Yanahurco sign, it's pretty much like that for two hours and they'll go through Cotopaxi National Park to a town called Machachi then North up the Pan American Highway to Quito - if that's where they were flying from. It would be the nearest International Airport. I was riding along the road that day (it's complicated as we had two groups of tourists and I was escourting one group out whilst the others rode in, before coming back in via the road the following day) anyway, as we rode out there were 2 or 3 trucks driving steadily in convoy out. I don't know if they were contestants driving out or film crew. But yes, it's likely they'd drive out, and there's a check point to get out of the National Park before you get out to the town.

the ones taken up the hill are from a pretty little glass hut/viewing chalet, it's almost opposite volcanoes Cotopaxi and Quilindana - really great point to see the bulls and horses coming down the valley, and then into the corals.


That would have been on the 22nd...
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 04, 2007, 07:37:41 PM
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The innovative Cigarette was so successful that boats of that type, even by other makers, are still commonly called cigarettes.
I stand corrected; according to the link Chateau and Puddin provided, it looks like a Donzi 35zr. Donzi, Cigarette, Magnum and other boats of that type are lumped into the category "go-fast boat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-fast_boat)."
Peach, if you have access to the Kodak gallery could you look to see if there's a reverse view of the hilltop area where Phil's standing?  :please:
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Post by: charlierose on February 04, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
I saw moments ago a promo for the AMazing RAce during commercials of the SuperBowl.  BAsically it is the same as the pictures posted. The only thing differetn I notice was a couple - a man carrying a women with a bathing suite on its back -. I would have swear it was Rob and Amber. So with that we know they do something involving water.  

I really do not know how to capture it and post the pictures, but I hope someone else did it and can post the pictures.

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Post by: Kogs on February 04, 2007, 07:40:39 PM
I saw moments ago a promo for the AMazing RAce during commercials of the SuperBowl.  BAsically it is the same as the pictures posted. The only thing differetn I notice was a couple - a man carrying a women with a bathing suite on its back -. I would have swear it was Rob and Amber. So with that we know they do something involving water.  

I really do not know how to capture it and post the pictures, but I hope someone else did it and can post the pictures.



that was from tar7 charlie
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Post by: charlierose on February 04, 2007, 08:12:37 PM
Opppss!!!  Sorry about that.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 08:19:47 PM
Slowhatch--I've looked and looked and  I can't find it....  :-\

Here are the ony different views I could find--one has that little shed on the slope but Whirley said it was a little glassed in chalet--so don't know...

You can register--they don't seem to care that I registered in the UK!

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Post by: puddin on February 04, 2007, 08:21:06 PM
I saw moments ago a promo for the AMazing RAce during commercials of the SuperBowl.  BAsically it is the same as the pictures posted. The only thing differetn I notice was a couple - a man carrying a women with a bathing suite on its back -. I would have swear it was Rob and Amber. So with that we know they do something involving water.  

I really do not know how to capture it and post the pictures, but I hope someone else did it and can post the pictures.


TAR7 final promo (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer2/play3.pl?type=rm&width=320&height=240&arena=video&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&url=g2demand/entertainment/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/preview.rm&ord=51003.04179722656) Best Ever!! I use the song on myspace.
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Post by: michael on February 04, 2007, 08:23:03 PM
ahh I remember that promo so well!  :kissy:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 04, 2007, 08:52:07 PM
Thanks. This looks like a candidate.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2007, 08:56:22 PM
Yes, that was the little shed I saw, but I can't convince myself that that is a glassed in chalet. Have to ask Whirley tomorrow!
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Post by: Whirley on February 05, 2007, 04:28:35 AM
Yes, I can confirm, that is the viewing hut you've arrowed up on the hillside.  ;D
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 09:39:53 AM
So Whirley,  That's gonna be the checkin point!   :happy:

There will be a mat there that teams run up to when they have completed the first leg of the race.

Of course, they have to find it!  And the last team to get there will be eliminated.

They always run to meet the host there.  See Puddin's picture.
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Post by: Whirley on February 05, 2007, 11:52:57 AM
Coooool. I tell you what though... it's a steep hill, I've run up it... there'll be some major puffing and panting to run all the way up it.  :rotf:
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
That's the way we like it!   :happy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2007, 12:44:03 PM
GEORGIAPEACH, you were speculating about the length of a day in Quito on Nov. 21. I have the answer. Sunrise was at 556am and sunset at 604pm. It is a 12 hour 8 minute day due to being on the equator. First light would not be until after 5am. Twilight would not linger past 7pm. That means a maximum light of 14 hours. However, since when has no light stopped the Amazing Race?

Thanks apskip for this! :waves:

Now where did I EVER get the idea they had a super long day?! Shoot! I hate those little headlamp things!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 01:10:21 PM
 :lol:
Snikers.  Yeah, at the equator the day is as close to 12 hrs long as you are ever going to get.

All year long too.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2007, 01:30:39 PM
You would have thought that I might have remembered from my time in Kenya how FAST it gets dark.  :doh:
There is really very little "l'heure bleue"--that "red rubber ball" drops like a rock! Of course, it bounces up pretty fast too!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 01:42:01 PM
I totally forgot about that effect.  When the sun dives down perpendicular to the horizon it takes less time to vanish. 

We are used to a long ramp to darkness thanks to the increased tilt of the ecliptic we get from latitude.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2007, 01:56:09 PM
^^^Heee...what he said!

For me, it just meant that my favorite time of day was gone before I knew it.   :-\
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Post by: apskip on February 05, 2007, 02:03:14 PM
GEORGIA PEACH and CHATEAU, your deductions about the length of the equator day are right on. However, the reverse is true in Tierra del Fuego and Patagonia where the summer days are long. With Ushuaia just shy of 55 degrees south and Punta Arenas at just more than 53 degrees south, you are talking about the equiavent of Akimiski Island in the James Bay outlet of Hudson Bay and Cape Muzon, the southernmost extension of the southeast part of Alaska. I haven't found tables for them yet (and might not), but we are talking less than one month shy of their summer solstice. I would guess it would be about 18 hours of light.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2007, 02:14:31 PM
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I would guess it would be about 18 hours of light.
 
 

Now THAT I like! Maybe that's where I got it.  (Hmmm.... lends new meaning to the term "cocktail hour"! :martini:

Do you remember that old Northern Exposure show about the 24 hour daylight? The doctor guy kept going, and going, and going...Cute!

My Mom tells a great story about going to a ballgame on the longest day in Alaska---and thinking that that game was never going to be over! :lol:


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Post by: apskip on February 05, 2007, 02:37:07 PM
I found a "Universal Time" timetable for sunrise and sunset at all longitude/latitute combinations. With the coordinates for Ushuaia for Nov. 28, 2006, sunrise was at 800am and sunset at 0048am. With one hour of dawn and dusk light on either end, we get 19 hours of light.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 02:59:12 PM
Here's my favorite:   Sun Earth Moon Applet (http://www.jgiesen.de/SME/)

It gives sunrise at 4:59 am and sunset at 9:44 pm.
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Post by: apskip on February 05, 2007, 03:46:59 PM
CHATEAU, note that the answer you get is pratically identical to mine in terms of differntial between sunrise and sunset. I think I've inferred what "Universal time" is. It's Greenwich mean time and Ushuaia must be 3 hours behind it and 2 hours ahead of Eastern time.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 05, 2007, 04:16:08 PM
I see.  Sticking in the offset from GMT is tricky.  I wish the program did it automatically.  I always have to go hunt it down from timezone data sites.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 06, 2007, 12:18:08 AM
So now after using GE to look at every square foot of Miami I now recognize where all the stock shots were made for CSI Miami.

Watching it now.

But last week they were at a location that I also recognized.  But it was not Miami.  It was right here in Pasadena (Castle Green).  And so many times they shoot from places down around Long Beach. 

You can even see the Queen Mary and the Lighthouse where TAR7 started!   :rotf:
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 02:11:25 PM
TV Guide magazine Feb 12-16   :happy:

Your Favorite Amazing Race teams are back!!
These people just can't get enough roadblocks, detours, and smirks from Host Phil Keoghan. And we can't get enough of seasoned pairs like Charla and Mirna.
In the first leg the teams head to Ecuador, where they'll have to choose between two tasks. You know the drill.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/06Feb0001.jpg)
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 02:17:01 PM
That's Yanahurca!
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 02:18:22 PM
That's Yanahurca!
Ya think ?  :lol: I wonder if C/M are first!?
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
 :happy: I have a title ...

"I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."

ETA: actually this is how its listed but I can't figure it out  :lol:
Amazing Race 11, The - “ I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio.”
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 06, 2007, 02:57:12 PM
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That's Yanahurca!

And here it is in Whirley's picture:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 02:58:26 PM
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"I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."

I am SO putting that on a T-shirt! :lol: :martini:

Has to be the Cha's or the Frats!

I love it!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 06, 2007, 02:59:39 PM
Looks like a Detour and it's around noontime.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 03:17:44 PM
More pink house views...
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 06, 2007, 03:51:49 PM
And note the horses in the background.  Weren't we told by gerorgiapeach's friend there that they were herding wild horses the day that TAR was supposed to be at the ranch?

I think with so much time for intros, getting to Ecuador and out to the ranch etc. that there will not be a ROADBLOCK in EP1 only the DETOUR which looks like it will be at the ranch site.  Then a run up the hill to the mat.  If it is close, that would be a handicap for Mirna and Charla.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 04:02:31 PM
Yes Whirley said that they were bringing in the wild horses the day before she arrived so that should have been the 21st? I'd rather do a task with horses than bulls any day! Maybe lassoing?

But no roadblock?? You are thinking a continued leg?
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 04:07:33 PM
hello hello - i feel sooo welcome

Have just checked back in my diary, and I think that most would have been filmed on the 21st Nov, as we saw a fair few nice new TV trucks leaving on the road out on the 22nd.

We brought the wild cattle in on the 23rd, but the hacienda do a horse round-up first. So maybe they were taking part in that? I honestly don't know. I'd ask my mates who are still out there, but there internet access - understandably considering the terrain - is a little infrequent.

hope that helps!!
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Post by: Kogs on February 06, 2007, 04:09:32 PM
Yes Whirley said that they were bringing in the wild horses the day before she arrived so that should have been the 21st? I'd rather do a task with horses than bulls any day! Maybe lassoing?

But no roadblock?? You are thinking a continued leg?

peach there is no roadblock on leg1 usually except tar1 which its only aired on the dvd and tar10 because of the 12 teams and mid philimination point
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 06, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
Hey, Kogs, don't forget the eating of the fish eyeballs in TAR10!

Everything changes!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2007, 04:25:47 PM
I can't remember....but there would still be an elimination?





Sorry about your poor Bears,  Kogs :( 
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 04:26:23 PM
^^ I think the RB in TAR10 was because of the double elim??
anyway leg 1 can't be TBC

CBS press
Sunday, Feb. 25 
(8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)             
THE AMAZING RACE:  ALL-STARS -- The second team is eliminated in Chile.
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Post by: Kogs on February 06, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
Hey, Kogs, don't forget the eating of the fish eyeballs in TAR10!

Everything changes!

Chateau i said tar10!!!!!!!! lol its only 1 hour long with the reintroductions and stuff i don't think there is a roadblock with all that travel in episode1
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 06, 2007, 04:33:13 PM
 :groan:

Sorry!
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 05:38:11 PM
I just spotted this too in tvguide..

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/06Feb0007.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/06Feb0008.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 06:13:38 PM
ok one more ..
it must be new..
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/06Feb0013.jpg)

compare..
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/04Feb0003.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on February 06, 2007, 06:15:03 PM
the same place??
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/00022-6-2007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/06Feb0013.jpg)
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Post by: Kogs on February 06, 2007, 07:12:44 PM
theres a borders bookstore in terminal f, brookstone if im mistaken is a bookstore too in termal e, newstand,books,snacks in terminal d, a newstand with books and gifts in termal a
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 07, 2007, 09:06:47 AM
Brookstone sells everything but books!
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 07, 2007, 09:12:05 AM
It will be interesting to see if these "experienced" teams have learned anything and have reduced the size of the humongous backpacks some of them carried during previous TAR's.  The coalminer really carried one that looked like it contained all of his earthy possessions including a huge bedroll.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: red_sox on February 08, 2007, 01:13:49 AM
In what order do you guys think teams will arrive at the first pitt-stop?

Here is a wild guess by me..

1st. Eric and Danielle (first to leave the starting block, will most likely get first plane out of Miami and are a strong and fit team)

2nd. Teri and Ian (Live in Miami, should find it easy to get on first plane)

3rd. Rob and Amber (These guys are good racers.. i just think they will make ti in the top of the pack for the first leg)

4th. Dustin and Kandice (Same as Rob and Amber)

5th. Uchenna and Joyce (Pretty strong team, will probably make the first flight)

6th. Team Guido (They are pretty fast and on the ball, if they miss the first flight they will probably be leading the back-pack)

7th. Charla and Mirna (they are the last team off the starting block and will likely miss the first flight, it depends on them making up alot of time on the way to the airport in Miami)

8th. Danny and Oswald (Just a wild guess, never seen this team before)

9th. Kevin and Drew (Due to the fact they are one of the first to be eliminated, im guessing they fall into the back-pack in the first leg)

10th. David and Mary (Pretty slow team really.. they are one of the last off the starting block, and i cant see them making up too much time)

11th. John and Jill (Apparently make the first flight, but most likely get very lost after arriving in the first country and fall into last, getting eliminated)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 08, 2007, 01:23:14 AM
Good guess red_sox :welcome:

I'm hoping Romber come in first for leg1 but thats just me and my martini's :lol:
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Post by: red_sox on February 08, 2007, 01:55:42 AM
Thanks Puddin  ;D

I wouldn't mind Rob and Amber coming in first.. i actually dont think tehy are as horrible as people make out- i like em  :jam:

I really dont want Eric and Danielle to win heaps of  legs.. they dont deserve all the prizes, and a winning streek by them would ruin the series for me  (:;)

Oh, and Puddin, i was devastated and almost had to seek help form a shrink when i read your boot-list  :'( I was setting all my hopes on Charla and Mirna winning the race  :( so here's hoping they win a decent few legs and get some kick-ass prizes  :jumpy:



Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: michael on February 08, 2007, 02:27:37 PM
red_sox, don't COMPLETELY give up hope yet..look at it this way, if the boot list does for some reason end up being wrong then the last episode will be an amazing surprise and it will be awesome to watch!
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Post by: puddin on February 08, 2007, 04:59:02 PM
presents ...
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Post by: red_sox on February 08, 2007, 05:47:20 PM
Looks like Eric and Danielle are out way in front  :groan:
Rob is just behind, but Amber is way behind him, and Mirna is up towards the front, but Charla is at the very back.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 08, 2007, 06:48:50 PM
Opps I posted in the wrong place ..long day no pay  :whips :elvis:

penalty for puddin for posting in the wrong topic: one hour, no posting in the Amazing Race thread   :bye:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 08, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Yeah we know---Survivor --baby!! :yess:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: asamber1 on February 08, 2007, 08:33:58 PM
Looks like Eric and Danielle are out way in front  :groan:
Rob is just behind, but Amber is way behind him, and Mirna is up towards the front, but Charla is at the very back.

ED/JVJ are way out in front together.  But its because they do start out closer, if you look they run to the side, and ED, JVJ are the two end teams, while RA, and DK are the last two teams [to the other side].  Its hard to judge who are faster unless its a direct strait sprint.

I dont know why Amber is wearing that heavy Jacket. 
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 08, 2007, 09:26:30 PM
Not for long:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 08, 2007, 09:48:51 PM
Opps I posted in the wrong place ..long day no pay  :whips :elvis:

penalty for puddin for posting in the wrong topic: one hour, no posting in the Amazing Race thread   :bye:

Maybe we should dock you one night at my castle on the Rhine.  No, that's not a good idea since that castle can get awfully cold and lonely at night with no one to keep you warm. 
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 08, 2007, 11:58:04 PM
Gman!! Your the best  :jumpy:  :kissy:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: mswood on February 09, 2007, 12:26:16 AM
Since I don't watch Survivor.  I assume they had no promo for the superior reality show on tonight, did they?

Never mind, I read the correct thread.  Well that sucks (:;)

Damn I want to see some real footage, and get the credit sequence.

Oh well you'll be able to start a first out and who came in first poll/thread soon Puddin.  I predict Eric & Danielle go out in the first leg :lol3:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 09, 2007, 12:46:53 AM
This picture was taken between 11:32 and 11:55 am (assumes November 20th).

The solar altitude comes form the zoom-in shown below.

Thanks Jill ! :angel:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 09, 2007, 01:11:49 AM
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Since I don't watch Survivor.  I assume they had no promo for the superior reality show on tonight, did they?

Nope--just the "your favorites are back" one. I can wait as long as we DO get one--I'm nervous that they might not want us spoiling All Stars and may not give us the footage we deserve! But I am pretty tired of Rob and the tree and Amber and the box! :lol:

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I dont know why Amber is wearing that heavy Jacket.
Maybe it was cold on the boat--or "beats carrying it"!

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Thanks Jill !

Right back at you! Your sun-shots are amazing!! (And to double confirm, the lady at the Deering Estate also said they left just before noon.)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 10, 2007, 09:56:09 AM
Just adding this ( again ) because its so clear ..
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Big Papi on February 10, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
LUV your Avi puddin...I'm rooting for ROMBER too..for second place of course.. :rotf:
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Post by: Rob on February 10, 2007, 11:37:35 AM
Down with Romber, up with Eric & D.
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Post by: red_sox on February 10, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
Just adding this ( again ) because its so clear ..
Wow! Where did you get that photo from?
I love them  :flirt: :kissy: :jumpy: :happy:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 10, 2007, 03:44:33 PM
LUV your Avi puddin...I'm rooting for ROMBER too..for second place of course.. :rotf:
Ha Ha Papi! I have to show my fav all time Survivors sum luv before they are eliminated  :lol: plus my avatar pisses our Rob here off  :yess:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Big Papi on February 10, 2007, 04:47:46 PM
Down with Romber, up with Eric & D.

 :lol: I'm already in the dog-house Rob..are you trying to get me into the Dog Pound  ???
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Rob on February 10, 2007, 06:32:58 PM
:D Nothing personal Big Pap!! Just don't like Romber at all, down with them! LOL

Rob
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 10, 2007, 07:41:22 PM
The good news is this is the last we see of them!   :happy:

Romber doesn't make it out of South America.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 10, 2007, 07:57:56 PM
OOOOH!

I want to talk about this more....taking it to spoilers! :bye:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 10, 2007, 08:39:08 PM
The good news is this is the last we see of them!   :happy:

Romber doesn't make it out of South America.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/boredsmiley.gif) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/millan/tantrumsmiley.gif)
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 10, 2007, 08:47:51 PM
 :james:  for puddin!  :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Big Papi on February 10, 2007, 08:55:17 PM
:james:  for puddin!  :lol:

Is Chateau d If insinuating that Amber does not strike "gold"  ???
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: asamber1 on February 10, 2007, 09:40:58 PM
The good news is this is the last we see of them!   :happy:

Romber doesn't make it out of South America.

Who really cares if they dont make it out of South America , who else can say they were on two main stream reality tv all star editioins.  Nevermind Amber [the only 1 i really like] has already been to every continent visisted by the race, i am just happy she makes it to the "boarder line Antarctica" so now she was pretty much to every continent.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: red_sox on February 11, 2007, 02:44:03 AM
I dont think they were attacking Romber asamber1, just stirring puddin cos she's a fan  :meow:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 11:48:35 AM
I dont think they were attacking Romber asamber1, just stirring puddin cos she's a fan  :meow:

Mighty bastardly of them I might add  :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 11, 2007, 12:13:51 PM
 :kissy:
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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 12:26:10 PM
:kissy:
  :-[
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 04:01:42 PM
CBS changed up the original video promo just a little ..link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.54737055677)
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Post by: Kogs on February 11, 2007, 04:02:51 PM
CBS changed up the original video promo just a little ..link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=
480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena
=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.547370
55677)

linky dont work
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Post by: Big Papi on February 11, 2007, 04:07:04 PM
CBS changed up the original video promo just a little ..link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=
480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena
=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.547370
55677)

linky dont work

Neither did my danged snow dance..sorry Kogs  :'(
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 04:51:19 PM
the link is fixed :D

looky.. Teri is wearing a " pink ' shirt

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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 04:52:18 PM
Jill is not ( wearing a pink shirt )..

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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 05:01:25 PM
A few more ...gotta love Mary's shirt! lol

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Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Big Papi on February 11, 2007, 05:32:51 PM
Is that the CHOS  :lolmao:
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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 06:21:25 PM
Is that the CHOS  :lolmao:
Yes :lol: I bet Phil got a kick out of that shirt after what the Cho's did to him ..

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Post by: Big Papi on February 11, 2007, 06:42:56 PM
Is that the CHOS  :lolmao:
Yes :lol: I bet Phil got a kick out of that shirt after what the Cho's did to him ..

Could this be Phil to Mary "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio." Now PACK IT IN  ?  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 06:49:26 PM
I'm with what Joni suggested! probably Eric to Danielle because in their pre-interview Danielle talks about drinking and Eric talks about working out etc ..."I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 08:44:41 PM
But the BQ's are not wearing pink shirts at the start line peach ..so the man with the big nose and hat must be Ian and the girl with the wavy hair with a pink top might just be Teri?


BQ's..
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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 08:56:50 PM
CBS changed up the original video promo just a little ..link  (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=39670.54737055677)

There is one screen of what looks like Drew (?) ready to parachute maybe? Is this old or new? And how about the Chinese (?) dragons--old footage or new?

And remember (in reference to the pink shirt discussion) we know that the BQ's have pink shirts!
The dragons are from TAR10 EP3 Hanoi Vietnam..and I'm pretty sure Drews is old too..but its been so long I can't say 100%.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 08:58:43 PM
They rode sailplanes in Season 1, and went to China as well. I'll dig out the dvd and see if the cap matches anything.
Oh I thought it was Hanoi  :lol:! Thanks Slowhatch!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2007, 09:12:25 PM
Yep--could be either puddin--"big nose" could be Ian for sure... :tup:

And thanks for checking out Drew and the dragons for me--I can't remember and I'm just too tired to look tonight :(
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Post by: mswood on February 11, 2007, 09:23:21 PM
So for the quote.

Who do we think it is.

Normally I would think of Danny & Oswald or the Guidos.  I would never have guessed Eric & Danielle.

Someone mentioned Kevin & Drew, but while they certainly could used cardio, I just don't picture that being their drink of choice.

And its now less then 7 days................Thank God, it can't get here fast enough.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 11, 2007, 09:56:18 PM
I was thinking Teri & Ian  ???

Don't you have to be 50 to drink martinis?   ;D
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Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 10:21:54 PM
Welcome schwarzmoor  :yaya:
Did anyone just catch the new commercial during the Grammys  :'( ..I was on the phone!
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2007, 10:51:36 PM
Puddin--or somebody!

We should take another look with some screenshots at that revised promo :please:--I think there are more hidden goodies there. Did The Frats skydive before--there is something there too...and I think there is a ground view so maybe it is something Chateau can localize.

WHY do we get good spoilers past my bedtime? :'(



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Don't you have to be 50 to drink martinis?
God will get you for that! says the apple martini queen :lol: Now you have to buy next time!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 11, 2007, 11:06:37 PM
Welcome schwarzmoor  :yaya:
Did anyone just catch the new commercial during the Grammys  :'( ..I was on the phone!


sorry i was watching the bulls-suns game on espn
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2007, 11:12:55 PM
Welcome schwarzmoor  :yaya:
Did anyone just catch the new commercial during the Grammys  :'( ..I was on the phone!


sorry i was watching the bulls-suns game on espn
There were some old intro flash's ( it was fast so not sure ) and it appeared the Frats had a flat tire but I can't be sure if it was their vehicle or not? Damn it!!
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:55:06 AM
here ya go peach ..

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Post by: qing_her on February 12, 2007, 12:57:05 AM
I'm so excited and I just can't hide it...  :wohoo:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 12, 2007, 01:08:25 AM
The sailplane is definitely Italy from Season 1, and the jumper may be Zach.

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Post by: apskip on February 12, 2007, 07:47:45 AM
I just looked at the AR1 team pictures. The individual about to jump is definitely DREW, not ZACH.
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Post by: Kogs on February 12, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Welcome schwarzmoor  :yaya:
Did anyone just catch the new commercial during the Grammys  :'( ..I was on the phone!


sorry i was watching the bulls-suns game on espn
There were some old intro flash's ( it was fast so not sure ) and it appeared the Frats had a flat tire but I can't be sure if it was their vehicle or not? Damn it!!

here linky its up on cbs.com
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638
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Post by: Big Papi on February 12, 2007, 11:15:50 AM
 :waves: :tup: Thanks Kogs..puddin must be off working her magic and hopefully we will have a few more pics soon. Just got a glimpse of somebody I know running along a beach with a beautiful lady in a pink bikini... :jumpy:
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:08:39 PM
Thanks Kogs!! actually puddin was busy getting her new refridge installed ..give me a minute and I'll get some pictures up.
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Post by: cinni on February 12, 2007, 12:27:17 PM
Thanks Kogs..puddin must be off working her magic and hopefully we will have a few more pics soon. Just got a glimpse of somebody I know running along a beach with a beautiful lady in a pink bikini...
hmmm...now who could they be?   :umn:    :lol3:
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Post by: Kogs on February 12, 2007, 12:28:15 PM
Thanks Kogs!! actually puddin was busy getting her new refridge installed ..give me a minute and I'll get some pictures up.

kitchenaid, subzero, or ge?
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:28:18 PM
pictures here  (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/EP1/sub/?start=all)

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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:28:48 PM
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:31:29 PM
New??
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:32:49 PM
The frats have a problem  :lol:

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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 12:33:43 PM
misc..


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Post by: michael on February 12, 2007, 12:34:56 PM
Dustin and Kandice look happy in that picture!
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Post by: Texan on February 12, 2007, 12:41:14 PM
man yal have done alot of work!  Not sure i can watch if Rob and Amber are gone after 4 shows.

 :waves: puddin
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Post by: Big Papi on February 12, 2007, 12:54:48 PM
Thanks Kogs..puddin must be off working her magic and hopefully we will have a few more pics soon. Just got a glimpse of somebody I know running along a beach with a beautiful lady in a pink bikini...
hmmm...now who could they be?   :umn:    :lol3:

Jose Cuervo and friend ? ;)
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Post by: Big Papi on February 12, 2007, 12:59:15 PM
Thanks Kogs!! actually puddin was busy getting her new refridge installed ..give me a minute and I'll get some pictures up.

 :lol: Now the cerveza, lemons and limes can go into their rightful place. Thank you puddin, the best moderator EVER  :jam:
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Post by: michael on February 12, 2007, 01:17:59 PM
Does anybody have the link to the video where these recent caps were taken from?
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 01:28:38 PM
Welcome schwarzmoor  :yaya:
Did anyone just catch the new commercial during the Grammys  :'( ..I was on the phone!


sorry i was watching the bulls-suns game on espn
There were some old intro flash's ( it was fast so not sure ) and it appeared the Frats had a flat tire but I can't be sure if it was their vehicle or not? Damn it!!

here linky its up on cbs.com
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer3/play.pl?type=rm&width=480&height=360&feat=vplayer&adtype=pre&arena=video&prod=innertube&id=127267&ord=97395.53652853638

Does anybody have the link to the video where these recent caps were taken from?
   :waves: Wendy and Big Papi  :kissy:
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Post by: michael on February 12, 2007, 01:37:15 PM
haha, that's such an awesome preview! I'm so excited now!

Somebody needs to youtube it so I can post it in my facebook group!!
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Post by: asamber1 on February 12, 2007, 02:03:39 PM
New??
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Thats from their AR10 Intro.

Yay we finally see Danielle in a bathing suit.
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Post by: Kogs on February 12, 2007, 02:11:05 PM
New??
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Yay we finally see Danielle in a bathing suit.

 :jumpy: :jumpy: :yess: :happy: :dancer: :wohoo: :jam: :jam:
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Post by: asamber1 on February 12, 2007, 02:39:03 PM
misc..


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notice the Christmas lights??  This could be maybe a little further in the race, depending on when they put lights up.  I remember in AR7 one of the airports [i think Jamaica] had lights up.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 12, 2007, 03:33:50 PM
All I noticed so far is that Mirna is making Charla carry the lumber.   :lol3:
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
All I noticed so far is that Mirna is making Charla carry the lumber.   :lol3:
lol ..in Charlas other hand she is carrying more stuff ..and Mirna as well



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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 06:43:18 PM
Cotopaxi Volcano? or no?

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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 06:47:33 PM
heres another one that popped up?

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 12, 2007, 07:23:23 PM
Fishing poles.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 12, 2007, 07:43:20 PM
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Fishing poles

I think so too...but I remember some fishing pole thing in Africa that had a net attached--I think this looks vey similar.

Yes to the Cotapaxi.

I have no idea what Charla is carrying!  :lol:She also has a shiny little can --tools? paint? But I have seen homes just like that in my searches this week--maybe Ushuaia? Punta? Darn--can't remember!

Landscape where the flat tire is looks like the flat part of Porvenir...

What did we decide about the view of Drew? I have no memory of this on the first race--did they do a jump? I of course remember the famous bungee but without checking the recaps--I'm thinking maybe this is new? Oh boy, I can't wait!
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 08:24:12 PM
I can't recall them ever showing us future challenges ...the Frats bent tire rim must be on the way to the Hacienda Yanahurco..remember these?
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 12, 2007, 08:33:12 PM
True--and Whirley did say that the road was very rough!
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 12, 2007, 08:35:37 PM
I'm thinking maybe PA for the map task (same place as the telephone poles, right?) There's a magellan statue in the town square, and the map looks similar to the Mercator-Hondius map (http://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/dec02/maps.html).

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 12, 2007, 09:27:23 PM
According to this site (http://plaque.free.fr/la/ec.html), it's a Quito car: the P denotes Pichincha (capital province).

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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 10:18:36 PM
Good catch on the car plate Slowhatch! I'm still not convinced the challenges above with C/M and Rob are in PA. Have we ever seen future challenges in video promos ???
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Post by: mswood on February 12, 2007, 10:41:20 PM
I just looked at the AR1 team pictures. The individual about to jump is definitely DREW, not ZACH.

Actually Slowwatch is correct.  It is Zach.

On a freeze frame you can even match the same clouds.

When Derek and Drew jumped hours later, there was far less cloud cover.

What I don't understand is why the editors used that footage.

Sure Teri & Ian didn't jump in that first episode in Season three, but they could have used footage of John Vito & Jill (who were in blue).  Its not like they didn't have enough footage.  They jumped first and had a ton of footage of them both jumping, during the jump and arriving on the ground.

If I could post pictures I would show the difference.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 12, 2007, 10:59:03 PM
I am worried about Kevin & Drew's rubbed off tire.

It looks like early morning driving from Quito south to the Hacienda.  So that means they will be late if not last to the hacienda.

They very well could be the first team eliminated.   :'(
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Post by: mswood on February 12, 2007, 11:03:49 PM
I am worried about Kevin & Drew's rubbed off tire.

It looks like early morning driving from Quito south to the Hacienda.  So that means they will be late if not last to the hacienda.

They very well could be the first team eliminated.   :'(

Well that would please many people who bitched about the "list".

But usually( though of course there are exceptions) the previews don't give away teh team that gets eliminated.

For example last year for episode 2 Tyler & James car trouble was featured in  the preview and yet it wasn't a big factor in the episode.  But If they aren't last, I could see them being close to last.

Of course less then 6 days we will know.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 12, 2007, 11:18:57 PM
Yes!

The good thing is that they look really far away from the city.  So that means--hope hope hope--that they are close to the hacienda.

And why would they not put on the spare tire that is on the back?  Maybe because they knew the ranch was within shoving distance!   ???
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Post by: mswood on February 12, 2007, 11:33:30 PM
Yeah, I would like to see Kevin & Drew around for more then one episode.
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 11:42:05 PM
Unfortunately all those future pictures that we got from CBS up to PA and the ones that Slowhatch found of the Cha's & Eric/Dee in Tierra del Fuego Park /Ushuaia are all of teams we are sure get past the first 3 or 4 episodes  :knuckles:
At least we can conclude that Mary & David make it to leg 2 with the picture of them with Charla & Mirna on (11/22)
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Post by: puddin on February 12, 2007, 11:54:02 PM
Yippee!! CBS likes me :happy:

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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - John Vito and Jill, formerly dating teammates from New York City, pause to read a clue during THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS.
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THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - John Vito and Jill, formerly dating teammates from New York City, take a break before departing on the first leg of the Race.

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"Episode 1101" -- Host Phil Keoghan waits as teams race to the Pitstop on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS
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Post by: mswood on February 13, 2007, 12:54:21 AM
Okay, Phil work it.
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 13, 2007, 01:04:20 AM
It looks like JVJ are the ones working it: "Hey buddy, you from Ecuador? Tell us everything you know!"  :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 01:13:53 AM
Uchenna?

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Post by: makz3d on February 13, 2007, 01:19:33 AM
I've been lurking for quite a while.  This is my first post.

Puddin, I'm wondering about the 3 pics you just posted.  I copy and pasted the statement under the 2nd pic that I'm referring to:

"THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS - John Vito and Jill, formerly dating teammates from New York City, take a break before departing on the first leg of the Race."

Is this CBS wording or your wording?

The clothes between the top and middle picture are not the same and according to the wording under the 2nd pic both pics were taken at the start of the 1st leg.  Also, Jill's hair doesn't look as clean in the middle pic as it does in the 1st pic.

I'm just wondering if the statements under the pics are from CBS and if they are, then I am wondering about the different clothes.
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 01:28:41 AM
Welcome makz3d :yaya:
That is direct from CBS, not my wording
..somewhere in this mess   :lol: I believe that Borders bookstore in the Miami airport is where we see JVJ as well as Uchenna?
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Post by: apskip on February 13, 2007, 06:38:23 AM
Yes!

The good thing is that they look really far away from the city.  So that means--hope hope hope--that they are close to the hacienda.

And why would they not put on the spare tire that is on the back?  Maybe because they knew the ranch was within shoving distance!   ???

Because if the rim is bent, there is nothing you can do with a new tire. Either they would need a new vehicle and there would be a time delay before the replacement vehicle arrives or if they are that close to the ranch they could walk.
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Post by: mswood on February 13, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
Yes!

The good thing is that they look really far away from the city.  So that means--hope hope hope--that they are close to the hacienda.

And why would they not put on the spare tire that is on the back?  Maybe because they knew the ranch was within shoving distance!   ???

Because if the rim is bent, there is nothing you can do with a new tire. Either they would need a new vehicle and there would be a time delay before the replacement vehicle arrives or if they are that close to the ranch they could walk.

Well if the clue tells them to drive to the location, then they have to drive to the location.

I am not sure how lose you have to be before you can oark and walk.

But last year in episode two, David & Mary were fairly close to where they could drop of their car and take horses to the Roadblock, but they had to wait (I assume they had to wait) for a replacement vehicle.

I wish we had some clarification on that type of rule.
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Post by: simonae on February 13, 2007, 08:54:29 AM
Hi Everyone
I wonder if I'm the only ole boot in here?   :jam: A big halloooo from Lafond Alberta, Canada.  It's a fine moring here.  37 below 0.  I guess I won't drive with my windows down today..
Fun feeding our horses..Wonder if my knick knax are still intact..????   (:;)
Have a super day. And have fun..Create a great day..It's your choice.

huggggggggggggggg
Simonae (grams)
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Post by: apskip on February 13, 2007, 09:14:20 AM
I just looked at the AR1 team pictures. The individual about to jump is definitely DREW, not ZACH.

Actually Slowwatch is correct.  It is Zach.

On a freeze frame you can even match the same clouds.

When Derek and Drew jumped hours later, there was far less cloud cover.

What I don't understand is why the editors used that footage.

Sure Teri & Ian didn't jump in that first episode in Season three, but they could have used footage of John Vito & Jill (who were in blue).  Its not like they didn't have enough footage.  They jumped first and had a ton of footage of them both jumping, during the jump and arriving on the ground.

If I could post pictures I would show the difference.

MSWOOD, my note stated that it was DREW from AR1, not DREW from AR3. It is DREW from AR1 in the headshot. For proof, I went back and reran my AR1 tapes on fastforward until I reached Episode 7, where the first DETOUR out of the pit stop at Sant'Agata Bolognese was a choice of GLIDE or BIKE. Kevin and Drew chose Glide and had to wait for Rob and Brennan to complete first. Kevin went into the tow plane and DREW was all alone in the glider, with shots matching the screenshots. This took place at the Aeroclub Volovolistico Ferrarese.

However, you are right that SLOWHATCH was correct in identifying the top screenshot in post #268 as from Italy, AR1, episode 7. My apologies to SLOWHATCH for an earlier version here in which I misunderstood that posting. Also, my apologies to you for misinterpreting what you were saying about the jumper, who I cannot identify. Let's hope it occurs in AR11 and not someone unidentified from AR3. You have been generous in your remarks about my misinterpretation in a later post and I appreciate that.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 13, 2007, 09:32:18 AM
This was what I was talking about.

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Post by: gingerman28 on February 13, 2007, 11:11:34 AM
GRAPHIC NOVELS?
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 04:05:17 PM
Who feels like typing  :jumpy: ?
eta: I HATE my new scanner!!  :lol3:

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thats all ..I'll try to rescan later  :lol:
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Post by: red_sox on February 13, 2007, 04:52:25 PM
WOOHOOOO  :jumpy: :yess: :hearts: :happy:
I have been hoping, hoping, praying and hoping that Charla and Mirna are the first team to the first pitt-stop, so that they can win the usual $10,000 each! I just want them both to get some money out of this race.. to help Charla with IVF, and to help Mirna build a house with her husband.. i hope they maintain their lead and do get in first- it would make me feel alot better if they dont win  :'(
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Post by: asamber1 on February 13, 2007, 05:19:34 PM
I really hate Charla and Mirna [and after what ill say you can include Sarah too!]]  Its seems people with disabilties get out of the planes first and thats so unfair, in Vietnam Flo and Zack would have been eliminated because of getting out of custums last if two other teams hadnt made huge blunders.  Nevermind Mirna is one the nastiest people alive [Battle of the Network Reality Stars is a prime example].

Oh looks at those Pink shirts on the BQs!!  All i can remember is in AR3 when it was one of the twins bithday's they wont the leg so maybe the BQ's will win too!

I dont know if Rob and Amber will be villains again they actually seem real liked by racers [more so than the people from survivor].  But i think Rob and Amber will be the "early villains", while Mirna will be the final villains.  Even on Rombers season they were not villains until the episode Ray and Deana were eliminated, who were the early villains. 

Rob looks lost in his picture lol.
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 05:49:02 PM
 The Amazing Race Review:
It’s not often that someone can have a once-in-a-life-time experience twice, but that’s the plan with the latest Amazing Race. Twenty-two of the series most memorable competitors—remember the Guidos, Charal Mirna, and , of course ,Rob & Amber? ---are back for another shot at the $1 million prize. And because they’ve done this before, executive producers Bertram van Munster promises “an all-around unpredictable” trip. TV Guide tagged along for an exclusive look at the first leg.

DAY 1
10:23 am
The start of the race is minutes away, and the teams line up on the lush grass of the Miami mansion. Some stretch to get ready. Others discuss strategy. Standing silently next to each other are Season 7 first and second place finishers Joyce & Uchenna Agu and Rob and Amber Mariano. Joyce is eager to prove their victory “wasn’t because we lucked out.” Rob wants payback: “ if you had a million dollars in your pocket and someone took it out of your pocket, would you remember it?” he says , referring to hoe he and Amber just missed beating Joyce & Uchenna. They’re off!

8:30pm
The engines have barely colled on the plane that flew the racers to their first destination---Quito, Ecuador---but Season 5’s Charla Baklayan Faddoul and Mirna Hindoyan are the first team to hit the street looking for transport to take them to their next clue. At the same time ,van Munster is in a van that’s hustling him to the first stop before any racers can get there. His mind is already on tomorrow’s challenge, which he gleefully promises will be “very unpleasant.”

10:30pm
Nearly all the teams have arrived at a restaurant high atop a hill in Quito for an overnight break. Most of them are sitting around a table eating, talking, laughing. It seems like a class reunion as the conversation shifts from birthdays to religion. Dave and Mary Conley—last season’s  team Kentucky ---arrive, everyone at the table gives them a big ovation. .Exec producer Elise Doganieri steps over to ask what they’ll do when the final teams show up.
“ We’ll give them comfort and hugs,” Amber says wryly. A grinning Ian Pollack, from Season 3---he and his wife, Teri, were the oldest team eer to finish in the Top 2 ---leans in. adding, “But tomorrow, it’s the dogs of war.”

DAY 2
10:45am
The teams are driving across a barren mountaintop. There’s nothing but big rocks and giant potholes, and the racers are getting tossed around like a sock in a dryer. “I’ve never driven a road like this in my life and hopefully I never will again,” Mirna says.
And there’s still at least an hour to go in a four-hour trip to a ranch where they’ll find their next challenge—find three military medals hiddeen on a giant hill or rope a wild horse and trim its hooves.

12:50
Gasping for air thanks to the 13,000 – foot altitude, the teams begin to arrive at the ranch. Dave runs ahead of Mary, urging her way along. “ Can’t you see I’m trying? I’m not as physically fit as you!”
Nearby, Dustin and Kandice---last season’s beauty queens---are celebrating Kandice’ 25th birthday. Dustin hands over a chocolate bar she’d hidden in her backpack.  It’s  an appropriate gift: She knows they’ll need the sugar for what lies ahead. “ Right from the Miami airport, I knew this was going to be tougher,” Dustin says.
And its is.” We’ve amped it up.” Doganieri says. Explains  van Munster, “ the cast all have these little techniques of their own for how they get from A toB, so we’re taking them to places where they can’t take advantage of that. This is not gonna be easy street.”



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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 06:13:56 PM
Wow--there are a lot of spoilers in that article! I'm surprised that they let them spill so many...

So what do we know? They reveal the 1st city (Quito) and the ranch --no surprises there for us!

But what's this about teams going directly to a restaurant for ESM?? That's how they make it "really difficult" for them? ???
I had them all camped out at the Equator monument for an early morning task!

Other things gathered from the article and accompanying pictures:

--teams to the restaurant by about 10:30 PM
--very last teams to the restaurant are at least not Romber, Teri/Ian, or D/M
--detour is "find three military medals hidden on a hill" or "shoe a wild horse"
--Rob is climbing the hill in military garb
--BQ's choose "shoeing"
--taxis are involved somewhere--maybe Quito airport to restaurant?
--given the arrival time at the restaurant--seems unlikely that they do a task on arrival?
--teams drive themselves to Yanahurco--road is bad--as also confirmed by Whiirley
--Altitude will play a big role here (ranch is at 12,000+feet per Whirley)


I found one new restaurant in Quito that may fit the overlooking the city description:

Pim's:
 
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The piece that was missing in Quito's downtown historic center: Pim's Panecillo. In addition to its renowned service, Pim's Panecillo has special areas for exclusive handcrafts, live music and cultural events.

El Panecillo, thus named due to its peculiar shape and size resembling a bun, is one of Quito's major tourist attractions. Located within the downtown historic center, at the summit of El Panecillo there is a statue of the Virgin Mary built with over 7,000 pieces of aluminum. The statue is a modern replica of the Virgin of Quito made by Bernardo de Legarda in the 16th Century, it being the only one with wings and portrayed as if She were dancing.

One hundred meters from the statue and at an altitude of 3,100 meters, you will find Pim's Panecillo, which is undoubtedly an ideal place to enjoy a panoramic view of Quito while you sip a cup of coffee, a glass of wine, your favorite cocktail, or order from our extensive menu. On Saturdays and Sundays we also offer buffet service, and we are open from 12 noon to 12 midnight from Monday thru Saturday, and from 12 noon to 6:00 p.m. on Sundays and holidays.

 Guess this means we won't see waterfall rappelling in Mindo either--darn it all!


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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 06:33:47 PM
I was interested in the military history so pulled some stuff (feel free to skip this if it isn't your cup of tea! ;))

The uniform jacket in the picture has a Napolean-esque look to it--which fits with the story below:

Ecuador
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THE STRUGGLE FOR INDEPENDENCE
The struggle for independence in the Quito Audiencia was part of a movement throughout Spanish America led by criollos (persons of pure Spanish descent born in the New World). The criollos resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the peninsulares was the fuel of revolution against colonial rule. The spark was Napoleon's invasion of Spain, after which he deposed King Ferdinand VII and, in July 1808, placed his brother Joseph Bonaparte on the Spanish throne.

Shortly afterward, Spanish citizens, unhappy at the usurpation of the throne by the French, began organizing local juntas loyal to Ferdinand. A group of Quito's leading citizens followed suit, and on August 10, 1809, they seized power from the local representatives of Joseph Bonaparte in the name of Ferdinand. Thus, this early revolt against colonial rule (one of the first in Spanish America) was, paradoxically, an expression of loyalty to the Spanish king.

It quickly became apparent that Quito's criollo rebels lacked the anticipated popular support for their cause. As loyalist troops approached Quito, therefore, they peacefully turned power back to the crown authorities. Despite assurances against reprisals, the returning Spanish authorities (Bonaparte's men) proved to be merciless with the rebels and, in the process of ferreting out participants in the Quito revolt, jailed and abused many innocent citizens. They actions, in turn, bred popular resentment among Quiteńos, who, after several days of street fighting in August 1810, won an agreement to be governed by a junta to be dominated by criollos, although with the president of the Audiencia of Quito acting as its figurehead leader.

In spite of widespread opposition within the rest of the Quito Audiencia, the junta called for a congress in December 1811 in which it declared the entire area of the audiencia to be independent. Two months later, the junta approved a constitution for the state of Quito that provided for democratic governing institutions but also granted recognition to the authority of Ferdinand should he return to the Spanish throne. Shortly thereafter, the junta elected to launch a military offensive against the Spanish, but the poorly trained and badly equipped troops were no match for those of the viceroy of Peru, which finally crushed the Quiteńo rebellion in December 1812.

The second chapter in Ecuador's struggle for emancipation from Spanish colonial rule began in Guayaquil, where independence was proclaimed in October 1820 by a local patriotic junta under the leadership of the poet José Joaquín Olmedo. By this time, the forces of independence had grown continental in scope and were organized into two principal armies, one under the Venezuelan Simón Bolívar Palacios in the north and the other under the Argentine José de San Martín in the south. Unlike the hapless Quito junta, the Guayaquil patriots were able to appeal to foreign allies, Argentina and Venezuela, each of whom soon responded by sending sizable contingents to Ecuador. Antonio José de Sucre Alcalá, the brilliant young lieutenant of Bolívar who arrived in Guayaquil in May 1821, was to become the key figure in the ensuing military struggle against the royalist forces.

After a number of initial successes, Sucre's army was defeated at Ambato in the central Sierra and he appealed for assistance from San Martín, whose army was by now in Peru. With the arrival from the south of 1,400 fresh soldiers under the command of Andrés de Santa Cruz Calahumana, the fortunes of the patriotic army were again reversed. A string of victories culminated in the decisive Battle of Pichincha, on the slopes of the volcano of that name on the western outskirts of Quito, on May 24, 1822. A few hours after the victory by the patriots, the last president of the Audiencia of Quito signed a formal capitulation of his forces before Marshal Sucre. Ecuador was at last free of Spanish rule.

Two months later Bolívar, the liberator of northern South America, entered Quito to a hero's welcome. Later that July, he met San Martín in Guayaquil and convinced the Argentine general, who wanted the port to return to Peruvian jurisdiction, and the local criollo elite in both major cities of the advantage of having the former Quito Audiencia join with the liberated lands to the north. As a result, Ecuador became the District of the South within the Confederation of Gran Colombia, which also included present-day Venezuela and Colombia and had Bogotá as its capital. This status was maintained for eight tumultuous years.

They were years in which warfare dominated the affairs of Ecuador. First, the country found itself on the front lines of Bolívar's war to liberate Peru from Spanish rule between 1822 and 1825; afterward, in 1828 and 1829, Ecuador was in the middle of an armed struggle between Peru and Gran Colombia over the location of their common border. After a campaign that included the near destruction of Guayaquil, the forces of Gran Colombia, under the leadership of Sucre and Venezuelan General Juan José Flores, proved victorious. The Treaty of 1829 fixed the border on the line that had divided the Quito audiencia and the Viceroyalty of Peru before independence.

The population of Ecuador was divided during these years among three segments: those favoring the status quo, those supporting union with Peru, and those advocating autonomous independence for the former audiencia. The latter group was to prevail following Venezuela's withdrawal from the confederation during an 1830 constitutional congress that had been called in Bogotá in a futile effort to combat growing separatist tendencies throughout Gran Colombia. In May of that year, a group of Quito notables met to dissolve the union with Gran Colombia, and in August, a constituent assembly drew up a constitution for the State of Ecuador, so named for its geographic proximity to the equator, and placed General Flores in charge of political and military affairs. He remained the dominant political figure during Ecuador's first fifteen years of independence.

 


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AUGUST 10TH, 1809

Already in December, 1808, Count Ruiz de Castilla, President of the Audiencia of Quito, was informed of the existence of a conspiracy which hoped to liberate the Audiencia from Spanish rule. The conspirators struck in Au­gust, 1809. On the evening of August 9th, they met in the house of Manuela Cańizares, next to the cathedral, and after declaring themselves to form a properly constituted assembly, proceeded to organize a government known as the Sovereign Junta. The troops quartered in the city, not without reason, declared their support for the movement. The President of the Audiencia was informed that his period of office was over, as that of all the men that he had appointed. On August 16th, in open council, the inhabitants of Quito ratified what the conspirators had done, amid cheers and celebrations. The August declaration, which has gained for Quito the title "Light of America", was not a casual, purely emotional affair: it had a long history behind it, the teachings of Espejo, the ideas of men such as Juan de Dios Morales, passionate democrat, brought up on the ideas of Rousseau and the Encyclopaedists. And therefore, although attempts were made to belittle both the intentions and the results of the declaration, they were both of rad­ical importance. As early as December ll th, 1811 the First Congress of Free Peoples of the Presidency of Quito declared absolute sovereignty, and promulgated a constitution on February 15th. Quito raised an army of three thousand men to defend the government, but these troops, inexperienced and poorly equipped, were defeated in the north and forced to surrender.

Count Ruiz de Castilla, back in power, promised to preserve the Junta, and not to take reprisals. But when the Royal Bat­talion came up to Quito from Lima - five hundred thugs under the command of Arredondo - as well as troops from Guayaquil and Cuenca, he dissolved the Junta and imprisoned the leaders of the uprising, to the number of sixty. Charges were brought against them, and forty-six of them faced leath penalty. They were to be tried by the Viceroy of Santa Fe. Ominous rumurs began to spread,and Quito feared for the lives of the pris­oners. A brave group, made up mostly of young men, decided to attack the quarters of the Lima Royal Battalion and set the prisoners free.
 
 

On August 2nd, 1810, to the sound of the bells of the cathedral that suddenly began to chime, they attacked. But as they were striking off the chains of the prisonners, soldiers from Popayan. burst in through a hole in the wall and a bloody massacre took place Juan de Dios Morales, Juan Salinas, Javier Ascazubi, the presbyter Riofrio, Nicolas Aguilera, Antonio Peńa, José Vinueza, Juan Larrea, Manuel Cajias, Mariano Villalobos, Anastasio Oiea, Vicente Melo, Manuel Quiroga and others were murdered in the most cowardly fashion, Quiroga being slain in the arms of his daughters who were visiting him at that moment. Then the soldiers rushed out into the streets and fell upon the people that they found there.
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 06:42:14 PM
How could you not know that is ROB? peach  :hearts:

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 06:49:28 PM
Heee...I NEED those bigger pictures--not to mention the captions! :spy:


Quito taxis:

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 07:08:11 PM
Road to Yanahurca:

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Post by: mswood on February 13, 2007, 07:26:34 PM
I just looked at the AR1 team pictures. The individual about to jump is definitely DREW, not ZACH.

Actually Slowwatch is correct.  It is Zach.

On a freeze frame you can even match the same clouds.

When Derek and Drew jumped hours later, there was far less cloud cover.

What I don't understand is why the editors used that footage.

Sure Teri & Ian didn't jump in that first episode in Season three, but they could have used footage of John Vito & Jill (who were in blue).  Its not like they didn't have enough footage.  They jumped first and had a ton of footage of them both jumping, during the jump and arriving on the ground.

If I could post pictures I would show the difference.

Actually, MSWOOD, you need a lesson in AR1. If you noticed, my note stated that it was DREW from AR1, not DREW from AR3. And it is DREW from AR1. For proof, I went back and reran my AR1 tapes on fastforward until I reached Episode 7, where the first DETOUR out of the pit stop at Sant'Agata Bolognese was a choice of GLIDE or BIKE. Kevin and Drew chose Glide and had to wait for Rob and Brennan to complete first. Kevin went into the tow plane and DREW was all alone in the glider, with shots matching the screenshots. This took place at the Aeroclub Volovolistico Ferrarese. You can look it up.

However, you are right that SLOWHATCH was correct in identifying the top screenshot in post #268 as from Italy, AR1, episode 7. My apologies to SLOWHATCH for an earlier version here in which I misunderstood that posting.



Cool its no big deal.  I was going off your statement that the person getting ready to jump wasn't Zach but Drew (I did figure you ment Drew from Season one).  But of course the only jumping Drew did was the swinging Bungee style jump in Africa, while they never jumed from the glider, that he could barely squeeze into (I do love his stories aboutt he old pilot of the glider and its string to navigate).
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Post by: mswood on February 13, 2007, 07:39:08 PM
So far with the spoilers we have it does seem that Charla & Mirna are taking advantage in getting off of transportation early.  Whether they go as far as Peter & Sarah and get escorted through customs remains to be seen.  THough it would explain some of the sizeable leads they have in the locations after arriving on a plane.

And going from what I could see of of old copies of season 5, they might have then as well.

I personally have no problem with it.  Its not cheating, it isn't binding the rules.  Just as senior teams can legitimately save money on the race by takin gadvantage of their age at certain sites, Charla using her legitamte disability to help her team is perfectly fair (and I am not a fan of this team, well not Mirna anyway).

I have a much bigger problem with needing a "Doctoro" and hold the boat for me, or get me booked as a priority standby for medical reasons compared to people on standby ahead of you (both occured in season 5).

But they do bleed considerable amounts of time in running and walking tasks. And her "special" shoes are only really going to be effective (if at all) on solid level surfaces (pavement, concrete, ect).  Fields, dirt roads, ect are going to slow them down a lot.

Also the race never lets teams when arriving at the final city get a custom advantage (at least in previous seasons), the regular legs, yes.  Final no.  So I see that being a serious issue for them on the last leg.  If they make it that far :snicker:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 13, 2007, 07:58:04 PM
It's hard to tell from the BQ photo; they might be working with "tongs" or "nippers" (see here (http://fourwinds.net/accessor/jt7917.html); at the bottom of the page is also a picture of some farriers aprons which look a lot like chaps. I know that makes no sense because R/A chose the medal task, but I thought I'd throw it in anyway). Also, according to this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe), they're probably domestic rather than wild horses; wild horses have better nutrition and their hooves need less care. (kinda makes me wish I'd made it to the end of the years-long waiting list for the horseshoeing class at my old alma mater; it was one of the most popular classes, even for non-ags  :ride:  ;D)
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 08:11:43 PM
Slowhatch --excellent job on the Punta finds this AM!

Now I don't know wild/tame horses -- but I do know that Fernando and Whirley said that "they bring in the wild horses" before the big cattle roundup starts--apparently that's a major big deal there.

And in the picture--looks like they are nearly sitting on that poor horse who really didn't want his hooves cleaned anyway, thank you very much.
The only horse whose hooves I ever cleaned was not wild at all, and very politely lifted his hooves up for me, IIRC....

Long way of saying...I'm thinking WILD! :mechbull:
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 09:21:18 PM
Uchenna?
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It's hard to tell from the BQ photo; they might be working with "tongs" or "nippers" (see here (http://fourwinds.net/accessor/jt7917.html); at the bottom of the page is also a picture of some farriers aprons which look a lot like chaps. I know that makes no sense because R/A chose the medal task, but I thought I'd throw it in anyway). Also, according to this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe), they're probably domestic rather than wild horses; wild horses have better nutrition and their hooves need less care. (kinda makes me wish I'd made it to the end of the years-long waiting list for the horseshoeing class at my old alma mater; it was one of the most popular classes, even for non-ags  :ride:  ;D)

Your such a mystery Slowhatch ..finally a clue :spy:  :snicker:

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Post by: red_sox on February 13, 2007, 09:26:37 PM
And that could mean that Uchenna and Joyce are at the back of the pack in the first episode.. if they are with JVJ and if th boot-list is correct..
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 13, 2007, 11:32:29 PM
This promo shot is puzzelling.  Even if C&M arrived on the first flight to Quito it would have been about 2 hours past sunset when they landed.

So when could this have been taken?  Did they get taxis from the restaurant in the morning when they had to drive SUV's to the Hacienda?  That can't be so.  It would have to be after they left the Hacienda and returned to Quito in Leg 2. 

But that messes up my timeline!   :umn:

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2007, 11:52:56 PM
Hmmm....does it look like early morning sunlight?

Maybe TPTB didn't want the teams to drive in Quito--so they taxi to the Equator monument (they are SO close--how could they not go? :js:) and then get their SUV's there for the drive to Yanahurca.

I really want a little more action in/around Quito--can you tell? :lol:
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Post by: puddin on February 13, 2007, 11:56:30 PM
the caption  ( for the picture above) says " Charla & Mirna arrive at a challenge site" if that helps?  Double ewwww to Charla's sweater.. again and again. I think peach mentioned that maybe it was too bulky to pack?

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 12:11:39 AM
Oh no--I think it is perfect travel wear! Lightweight, packable, easy to wash, neutral color for mix-and-match, stain resistent--what WAS she thinking?!

Unless she plans to leave it behind when she reaches the hot countries--I think she'll be sorry when she has to carry it around-- and the other teams may be sorry to see her coming. Looks itchy too :lol:!

Sorry Charla--I still love you...
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Post by: red_sox on February 14, 2007, 12:32:37 AM
This promo shot is puzzelling.  Even if C&M arrived on the first flight to Quito it would have been about 2 hours past sunset when they landed.

So when could this have been taken?  Did they get taxis from the restaurant in the morning when they had to drive SUV's to the Hacienda?  That can't be so.  It would have to be after they left the Hacienda and returned to Quito in Leg 2. 

But that messes up my timeline!   :umn:
I think it looks like sun-rise in that pic.. maybe the flight was delayed and they arrived at 5am-6am..
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 14, 2007, 12:33:22 AM
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I really want a little more action in/around Quito--can you tell?  :lol:

Me too !

I think it could fit in like this:

Teams are released from the restaurant in lumps of three at say 8:00, 8:30, and 9:00 am.  They take taxis from there to the first challenge site.  Charla & Mirna are in the first, no, make that second lump (three taxis are already there).  It does not look like Mitad though (no grassy hillside parking).  Then from that site they get their SUV's to make the 4 hour drive to the Hacienda.  Dave & Mary and the BQs arrive about 12:50 pm.
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 14, 2007, 01:16:56 AM
It's hard to tell from the resolution of that photo, but according to the airport site (http://www.quitoairport.com/ingles/transporte/transporte.htm) there's a cartel/concession and all airport taxis should have a "cooperativa" emblem on them.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 14, 2007, 09:43:55 AM
If they're not airport cabs, then they're definitely Quito cabs: note the black-on-orange color scheme (http://plaque.free.fr/la/ec.html) of the plates. I've googled around for a hilltop restaurant, and the only thing I've found so far that matches the pavement and guardrail is this flickr photo (source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paseodelsur/71539691/)) of the Panecillo near the restaurant Peach already mentioned.

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 10:37:32 AM
Thank you Slowhatch! I looked and looked for a parking lot for that restaurant yesterday with no luck. Still not sure it is "rural" enough to match our taxi shot though...And you find the best confirmations! Who knew there were whole sites about license tags? ;D

I still want some more DRAMA! as I posted way back. Sunrise is about 6AM so seems like we would have time for a 3-4 hour task--we need more than one Yanahurca task for sure, IMO. The in  Quito or nearby options (in case we get an early AM task) could maybe include these from way back...I'll repost them in case it rings any bells for anyone. There is also a basilica that can be climbed. Of course, I'm still hoping for the Equator!

Has anyone found parking for the cable car (telerifico)?

In or nearby Quito:
---There is a cable car--(remember the "emergency/exit rapel down from a cable car from a previous season?)
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Where else can you paraglide from a volcanic peak a half-hour from a major metropolitan center? Several paragliding schools can be found within an hour of Quito. You can take a week-long training course, or entrust yourself to an experienced pilot on a tandem flight. Flights last around 10-25 minutes depending on the air currents, take place in the morning for maximum airlift. According to aficionados, trying to imitate a condor feels surprisingly natural - and you certainly won't get any better views.

(Escuela Pichincha de Vuelo Libre.- Address: Carlos Endara Oe3-60 and Amazonas. Tel. 2256592. Complete courses offered)
---and there is an active volcano (Guagua Pinchincha) on the outskirts of town with crater walks available



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Post by: Chateau d If on February 14, 2007, 11:01:37 AM
I think you got it Slowhatch.  Here is a GE of Pim's Panecillo, the restaurant that Peach found.  If the taxis are parked on the uphill side of the road then the shadows they cast would be consistent.  Also, the horizon seems to match in this tilted view.  I think the lower red arrow in your taxi image points to Mirna's shadow!

This would indicate that a lot of taxis may have been summoned and are waiting at the restaurant.  If this location is correct then the time is about 8ish.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 14, 2007, 11:04:58 AM
So what's the consensus: the racers arrive in Quito, hit hours-of-operation, spend the night at Pim's, get up early the next day and do the "very unpleasant" task BVM mentioned, then get cars and drive to the ranch. Is that about it?
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 11:09:40 AM
NICE guys! (Y'all have been on a roll the last couple of days!)

Great pics Chateau!

Forgot that the leaving times would be dependent on the 12 hours after arrival. So do y'all think they'll go do anything?? before they get on the road? I know they have to get the SUV's somewhere, but we want excitement for the rating wars!


I thought the unpleasant task was at Yanahurco--but horsies don't quite fit...
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 11:12:13 AM
I thought the unpleasant task was at Yanahurco--but horsies don't quite fit...
Rolling around in horse manure can't be all that pleasant :badhorse:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 11:21:10 AM
True!



Forgot to say  :hvtd: !  :luvya: to you all!

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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 11:22:07 AM
I thought the unpleasant task was at Yanahurco--but horsies don't quite fit...
Rolling around in horse manure can't be all that pleasant :badhorse:

they did play in cow poo in tar4 in holland :lol:
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Post by: apskip on February 14, 2007, 11:25:39 AM

Forgot that the leaving times would be dependent on the 12 hours after arrival. So do y'all think they'll go do anything?? before they get on the road? I know they have to get the SUV's somewhere, but we want excitement for the rating wars!


GEORGIAPEACH, I don't think there is any 12 hour wait as a result of a pit stop at the restaurant; that is at Yanahurco. What must happen is an hours-of-operation bunching combined with some mechanism like pulling numbers from a board to penalize the later team arrivals at the restaurant and give the first arrivals a head start.
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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 11:38:08 AM


GEORGIAPEACH, I don't think there is any 12 hour wait as a result of a pit stop at the restaurant; that is at Yanahurco. What must happen is an hours-of-operation bunching combined with some mechanism like pulling numbers from a board to penalize the later team arrivals at the restaurant and give the first arrivals a head start.

Exactly apskip, I thought that was a "give-me." First team in first team out.

LEG Equalizers from previous first leg tars
TAR1 Sign up for charter
TAR2 Sign up for boat
TAR3 Sign up for bus
TAR4 Pull Departure for bus
TAR5 Pull Departure for boat
TAR6 Pull Departure for van
TAR7 Pull Departure for plane
TAR9 Nada the detour was the equalizer and leg2 had the departure times
TAR10 Pull Departure for motarbike thingy
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 11:41:09 AM
Thanks kogs and apskip!  That's a lot of pulling a number in the first episode--may the trend continue!
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 11:49:56 AM
FOUR-TIME EMMY AWARD WINNER "THE AMAZING RACE" RETURNS WITH AN ALL-STAR EDITION, PREMIERING SUNDAY, FEB. 18, 8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"28 Days, Five Continents, More Than 45,000 Miles"



          "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio" -- Eleven former teams return to compete in a Race around the world on THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS, the 11th installment of the four-time Emmy Award-winning series hosted by Phil Keoghan premiering Sunday, Feb. 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

          THE AMAZING RACE: ALL-STARS will reunite some of the most memorable, entertaining and controversial Teams from previous seasons who will travel more than 45,000 miles, spanning five continents in 28 days, with stops in such locations as Argentina, Mozambique and Chile, to name a few.  These former teams will pair up for one final trek around the globe as they battle the best of the best in a Race to the Finish Line for their second attempt at the million dollar prize.

         The race begins in Miami, Fla. when Teams begin jockeying for available flights to the first destination, Quito, Ecuador.  Once there, Teams climb to an elevation of 11,040 feet during a four-hour ride through the rugged terrain of the Andes Mountain en route to their first Detour.  The All-Stars' physical stamina is tested immediately as Teams struggle to complete the Detour that will require several Racers to get up close and personal with one hundred wild horses.
 
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 14, 2007, 11:56:29 AM
I've got a better estimate when Charla & Mirna get their taxi:

This shot was taken between 6:51 and 7:12 am (assumes November 22nd)

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 12:00:19 PM
I just reread the TV guide article--they have to rope and trim the horse's hooves--no wonder they say
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O h thank you Chateau! They HAVE to do something else--even if it is just go get the SUV's somewhere! But if I was TPTB, I would still want something really dramatic for the first show! Show me the hook!  :yess: :jumpy:




YAY puddin! More pics!  :hearts: Is that Miami?
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
Everyone working against the BQ's

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrpuASBrMA

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 14, 2007, 12:05:55 PM
Nice Puddin !

This shot from Pim's

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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 12:08:08 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrpuASBrMA

david and mary playing evil :o :o :o say it aint so joe!!!!!!! what will rosie do when she see's this?????
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Post by: Big Papi on February 14, 2007, 12:16:43 PM
...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrpuASBrMA

david and mary playing evil :o :o :o say it aint so joe!!!!!!! what will rosie do when she see's this?????

BVM said the backstabbing started early. It began at Miami International.. :meow:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 12:32:34 PM
Very interesting that D/M are the instigators of a let's get the  BQs plot--there still must be some left-over feelings there from TAR 10--or maybe they just know how competitive they are  and want them out early?
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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 12:33:53 PM
Very interesting that D/M are the instigators of a let's get the  BQs plot--there still must be some left-over feelings there from TAR 10--or maybe they just know how competitive they are  and want them out early?

i choose the later of that, david and mary know there is no backpack allience here. they will do what they have to and we know how far trying to scheme gets yeah in this race  :lol: :lol:
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 01:12:50 PM
the sneek peek is uploaded on http://www.mediafire.com/?8ynnnniiq1w (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ynnnniiq1w)

If it weren't for the spoilers I'd be suspicious that that JVJ as well as The Cha's are almost invisible in all promo's so far.
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Post by: apskip on February 14, 2007, 01:21:30 PM
I just watched the YouTube video on David/Mary trying to fake out Dustin/Kandice (it must not have worked or been very effective since D/K are in the first group at Yanahurco). My focus was on the statements made by a team about going to COPA, which is another airline that flew from Miami to Quito with connection in Panama City. Here are the flight schedules:

AA931 departs MIA 1550 arrives UIO 1950

AA967 departs MIA 1705 arrives UIO 2105

CM 301 departs MIA 1530 arrives PTY 1825, CM211 departs PTY 1935 arrives UIO 2145

I see no incentive for anyone to take the Copa flights, so there must have been one of three things happening:

1. the clue restricted both of the AA flights to a specific number of teams

2. AA had a relatively full flight and could not accomodate everyone that wanted to be on one of their flights (probably AA967).

3. Teams were having difficulty getting decent arrival information.

Separately, I need a capability to go back in history to see what the actual on-time arrival statistic was for a specific flight on a specific date. I tried www.amadeus.net but it does not allow you to go back. Does anyone know where to find this go-back capability?
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 14, 2007, 01:48:17 PM
The BTS (http://www.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummarystatistics/src/dstat/OntimeSummaryDepatures.xml) has an archive function, but would work of course only for departures. UIO (http://www.quitoairport.com/ingles/arribos_salidas/arribo_internacional.htm) keeps a departure and arrival board, but it's only for current activity. I posted a long way back that the AA flight was a few minutes late; I don't know if Copa has any data.
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 01:54:16 PM
I'm sure you all looked this over but here it is again:

No FN Usernames Left   @ sucks ( posted on 11/20/06 ) @ 1:46 pm

They're currently here in Miami. So far the teams I've seen (that I recognize) are:

*Rob & Amber (S7)
*Joe & Bill ("Team Guido" from S1)
*Charla & Mirna (S5)
*I think John Vito & Jill from S3 are also in it
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*At the gate, I only saw Romber and JVJ(?). I saw Charla & Mirna talking to the ticket agent getting their tickets, and cutting a bit for the camera just after they purchased them. There were two other teams and Team Guido after them. I think Team Guido was the last team in line, but again it was hard to tell, because they were in a big cluster including the 6 cameramen and sound guys assigned to them. All I know is some tall guy with kind of a big nose wearing something that looked (from a distance) like a straw cowboy hat was up at the counter talking to the agent.

* They're at Gate A7 of Miami International Airport waiting for an American Airlines flight to Quito, Ecuador
* I thought they were scheduled to leave at 3:05, but it turns out they were leaving at 3:50; so I got there too early to see all the teams
* Romber was done at the ticket counter about half an hour before Charla and Mirna. By the time Charla & Mirna left, 2 or 3 teams had caught up. Charla almost left her passport and ticket with the ticket agent. He had to call her back to get them.
* I don't know if this will help, but Rob & Amber were wearing their matching Red Sox caps, and Team Guido were wearing their fleece jackets with "Team Guido" stitched into the back. So, if the players were instructed to dress similar to the way they dressed last time they were on the show.
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
 :happy:

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Post by: michael on February 14, 2007, 04:12:45 PM
hehe so it looks like Dustin and Kandice get to the AA line before the guidos. good :)
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 04:13:43 PM
youtube on the way..

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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 04:23:20 PM
ok I'm having youtube problems ..heres the link (http://tinyurl.com/37wdqn)

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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
LOL david and mary called robmer rob and kim
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 04:41:18 PM
LOL and then David " were their fans " :rotf:
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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 04:42:08 PM
ok i really hate teasers lol need more than 45 sec of footage lol
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Post by: red_sox on February 14, 2007, 04:59:47 PM
Aaaw Dvavid and Mary are suck sweet-hearts  :hearts: I love them  :hearts:
These clips need to be longerrr  :jam:

I am so so so pumped for this series :jumpy:
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Post by: red_sox on February 14, 2007, 05:13:39 PM
PS.
Have you guys sseen this video? It might have already been shared, I wasn't sure though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBolSlal-c
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Post by: Rob on February 14, 2007, 07:52:15 PM
Great Preview of TAR

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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 08:02:48 PM
Damn its not working Rob ..whats with the internet today  :knuckles:?

Can you upload it here?
my email and you know my password ..the usual
http://www.mediafire.com/
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Post by: red_sox on February 14, 2007, 08:17:12 PM
Dont worry, its the same one you posted before i think puddin :)
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 08:22:52 PM
It was freezing up on me red_sox  :knuckles: ..I blame the snow  :snicker:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 14, 2007, 08:42:46 PM
I liked that video from MSN. Just as a test, I burned it to a cd and played in on my dvd player; I was impressed with the video quality. If CBS would offer episodes of that grade, I'd gladly shell out some nickels for downloads. (I hope Rob/Amber didn't buy all those books  ;D).
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Post by: Rob on February 14, 2007, 08:50:07 PM
Give my video some time, and it will work, it says its processing AGAIN??
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 08:54:07 PM
I'm doing that right now Slowhatch  :tup:
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 09:31:06 PM
I hope this works :nut:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9yyb32altj5
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2007, 09:40:28 PM
They work puddin! They all work! :kissy:

The first one via the link works--slighty jumpy.
The youtube one is fine...
And the last one (Mediafire) works with excellent quality!

Thank you--now go relax and enjoy your snow night!
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 14, 2007, 10:13:20 PM
Hi guys!

Dan from Sydney, Australia here. Long time reader, n00b poster.

Anyway I read on another forum where somebody posted an in-depth article on the first leg from TV Guide and here's some quotes:

"Nearly all the teams have arrived at a restaurant high atop a hill in Quito for an overnight break" - first leg bunching like season 6?

"Dave and Mary Conley--last seasons' Team Kentucky--arrive and everyone at the table gives them a big ovation. Exec producer Elise Doganieri steps over to ask what they'll do when the final teams show up." - not last to bunching but pretty close (they are a pretty slow team lol)

"And there's still at least an hour to go in a four-hour trip to a ranch where they'll face their next challenge--find three military medals hidden on a giant hill or rope a wild horse and trim its hooves." - DETOUR!

"Gasping for air thanks to the 13,000-foot altitude, the teams begin to arrive at the ranch. Dave runs ahead of Mary, urging her to hurry, while she huffs and puffs her way along." - pitstop or detour place

"Nearby, Dustin and Kandice--last season's beauty queens--are celebrating Kandice's 25th birthday. Dustin hands over a chocolate bar she'd hidden in her backpack. It's an appropriate gift: She knows they'll need the sugar boost for what lies ahead." - so they're behind D/M

And that's as much as I can do haha.

Anyway, have fun watching!
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 10:19:39 PM

 :noway: down_with_alli !! Just kidding  ;) ..I think everyone has the article now.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.msg175741.html#msg175741
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 14, 2007, 10:24:52 PM

 :noway: down_with_alli !! Just kidding  ;) ..I think everyone has the article now.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.msg175741.html#msg175741

Well I suck then lol.

Damn being in Australia.

Even though it's awesome weather here  B:)
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Post by: puddin on February 14, 2007, 10:29:27 PM
They work puddin! They all work! :kissy:

The first one via the link works--slighty jumpy.
The youtube one is fine...
And the last one (Mediafire) works with excellent quality!

Thank you--now go relax and enjoy your snow night!
It was an itch I couldn't scratch and I'm obsessive  :lol: ..and lots of thanks to Rob for the help as well as Slowhatch  :luvya:


 :noway: down_with_alli !! Just kidding  ;) ..I think everyone has the article now.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.msg175741.html#msg175741

Well I suck then lol.

Damn being in Australia.

Even though it's awesome weather here  B:)
Yeah I'm jealous Dan, must be nice over there :kissy: ..day one of a snowstorm and I'm losing my mind :nut:
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Post by: red_sox on February 14, 2007, 10:32:22 PM
I would do anything to experience snow first hand.. and live in it for winter  :hearts:
Its freaking boiling here.. been sunbaking out the back  :jam:
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Post by: Kogs on February 14, 2007, 10:33:51 PM
trade yeah -10 fairinheight windchill temps for that
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 14, 2007, 10:43:21 PM
I would do anything to experience snow first hand.. and live in it for winter  :hearts:
Its freaking boiling here.. been sunbaking out the back  :jam:

Just came back from Bondi haha.

The waves aren't that good but hell it's nice.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 01:52:06 AM
This shot tells me that the BQs had to buy the Copa tix after all.

If true then the teams on the slower Copa flight are:

Dave & Mary
BQs
Eric & Danielle  (Because they got in the AA line behind the Guidos and the BQs)
Kevin & Drew  (Only because they were not seen by the spoiler)
Uchenna & Joyce  (Only because they were not seen by the spoiler)

I can't figure out how the Guidos got the 3:50 AA flight when they got in line after the BQs.  It may be a matter of interpretation of the spoiler's words.  'at the gate' or 'at check in'

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2007, 02:18:33 AM
Chateau--this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrpuASBrMA  posted earlier shows the BQ's first at Copa and then heading off to AA--are you thinking they have to come back again?
I thought they started at Copa then changed and went to AA--although I found it hard to figure out which line they were in when they said the "first flight"--but thought that that was at AA and the Guidos were behind them there.  Is there a time thing that I am missing?
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Post by: apskip on February 15, 2007, 08:31:47 AM
This shot tells me that the BQs had to buy the Copa tix after all.

If true then the teams on the slower Copa flight are:

Dave & Mary
BQs
Eric & Danielle  (Because they got in the AA line behind the Guidos and the BQs)
Kevin & Drew  (Only because they were not seen by the spoiler)
Uchenna & Joyce  (Only because they were not seen by the spoiler)

I can't figure out how the Guidos got the 3:50 AA flight when they got in line after the BQs.  It may be a matter of interpretation of the spoiler's words.  'at the gate' or 'at check in'

You may be correct in terms of what ultimately happened, but I agree with GEORGIAPEACH. Everyone appeared to be in line at COPA until Dave/Mary gave several teams the advice to go to American for what could have been either the first or second flight, since COPA departs before either one. Dustin/Kandice were next to the counter at COPA then, so they were the only ones who actually asked COPA about arrival times. That made them last to leave for another area to book the earlier arriving American flights.
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Post by: apskip on February 15, 2007, 08:38:59 AM
I hope this works :nut:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9yyb32altj5

Absolutely! And very necessary too. I will report differently than GEROGIAPEACH and GINGERMAN28. The msn version which this replaces worked fine on SOUND ONLY for me, but the picture froze after the first 20 seconds. All final MediaFire downloads have been fine. Thank you very much for the extensive effort you have put in to make sure we can all see these important videos.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 10:36:52 AM
The reason I put out my suspiciion that the BQs get their flight from Copa is because in the shot I can see that the Copa agent has processed tickets on the keyboard and passports to the right  Of course I don't know for sure if these belong to the BQs.  But it looks like it.  I will try to look at the whole video where that shot came from to get context.  So far I have just been working from the stills and the youtube that Rob got working.  Thanks Rob!
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Post by: Kogs on February 15, 2007, 10:42:08 AM
The reason I put out my suspiciion that the BQs get their flight from Copa is because in the shot I can see that the Copa agent has processed tickets on the keyboard and passports to the right  Of course I don't know for sure if these belong to the BQs.  But it looks like it.  I will try to look at the whole video where that shot came from to get context.  So far I have just been working from the stills and the youtube that Rob got working.  Thanks Rob!

you can see dustin and kandice run off with there passports when going to american. that doesnt mean they are on that flight, just means those tickets are not theres
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 10:54:05 AM
Thanks Kogs.  I can't get anything to work right now.  My internet connection is going on/off.

Okay, I checked the video and I see that the BQs ran off from the counter leaving the agent with those tix and passports.  So they're not theirs.

But you would think that the spoiler would have recognized the BQs if they were in position to board at gate 7.  Maybe that other AA flight is part of the show.  It gets in a little ahead of the Copa flight.
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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 12:27:14 PM
JVJ we're given the wrong directions!! ..they went the wrong way!! Cruddy video I can't make out the signs just the arrow pointing to the cotopaxi...?
video
http://tinyurl.com/38mxng

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Post by: Kogs on February 15, 2007, 12:41:02 PM
you would think they learned there lesson from singapore  :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 01:37:15 PM
Yes, they are major lost.

If they were going the same way as the police pickup truck in these shots then they were going North !
The hacienca is mostly south from Quito.

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Post by: asamber1 on February 15, 2007, 02:08:15 PM
you would think they learned there lesson from singapore  :lol: :lol:

Yea lol, but you really cant learn from that, its not your failt someone got you lost.  They should have just learned how to read a map!!!  Man why couldnt this have been Eric and Danielle!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
Quote
(I hope Rob/Amber didn't buy all those books  ;) ).

This is going to be the first Romber stinker act.

They are hiding the books.   :knuckles:

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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 02:57:53 PM
 :lol: Thats the Romber that I know and love!
So Chateau? not that I doubt you :bow: but can you elaborate on how you can tell JvJ are North?
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 02:58:58 PM
And so JVJ can't find any good Equador material or maps.

And so they get lost.

There is probably more to it but it's a start.

Rob's gonna be going:    :jam:  "one down, seven to go"
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
The Northness, I think, is because it should be about 10 am and the sun would be shining from the southeast.  I'm just looking at the way the light hits their heads and the truck is pointed about 135 deg north of that sun direction.  It's sketchy.

Interestingly enough, they are looking in the right direction (sun on left front of their faces) !

Folow the purple dashes:

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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 03:51:18 PM
Merci beau! Amazing stuff!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2007, 03:55:06 PM
Can someone find out the names of the rivers that run through the Hacienda?

Merci!
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Post by: apskip on February 15, 2007, 04:21:02 PM
Can someone find out the names of the rivers that run through the Hacienda?

Merci!

YANAHURCO RIVER and VICOUS VALLEY RIVER are two of them. There may be more.
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Post by: mswood on February 15, 2007, 06:48:26 PM
you would think they learned there lesson from singapore  :lol: :lol:

Yea lol, but you really cant learn from that, its not your failt someone got you lost.  They should have just learned how to read a map!!!  Man why couldnt this have been Eric and Danielle!

Well it could be, Danielle never showed she could navigate.  But Eric navigated for Jeremy.  And with a valid (non hand drawn map) we have no footage of them ever getting lost in season 9 (without a map yeap, and with 2 seperate hand drawn maps yes).

So I am curious if he will have Danielle drive. 
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Post by: mswood on February 15, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
Puddin

I know tonight is Survivor night for you.  But are we going to get a guess who comes in first/last, TBC, or non elimination thread soon.

Please...... :waves:
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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 06:54:32 PM
Puddin

I know tonight is Survivor night for you.  But are we going to get a guess who comes in first/last, TBC, or non elimination thread soon.

Please...... :waves:
I'll do it now mswood  :happy:
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Post by: asamber1 on February 15, 2007, 08:02:36 PM
On Romber's show [i know i think im the only one watching] they discussed their new AR strategy.

Rob wanted to bring no bags, and have Amber wear the jacket the whole time.  Amber convinces him to bring 1 bag.  So i think Rob and Amber will bring one bag with not much in it, and all the shots support this.

1. Amber wearing the jacket at the start
2. When seen with DK, only Rob has a bag on
3. It seems Rob is wearing the Red Sweater everywhere, maybe he brought no other clothes.
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Post by: asamber1 on February 15, 2007, 08:06:38 PM
you would think they learned there lesson from singapore  :lol: :lol:

Yea lol, but you really cant learn from that, its not your failt someone got you lost.  They should have just learned how to read a map!!!  Man why couldnt this have been Eric and Danielle!

Well it could be, Danielle never showed she could navigate.  But Eric navigated for Jeremy.  And with a valid (non hand drawn map) we have no footage of them ever getting lost in season 9 (without a map yeap, and with 2 seperate hand drawn maps yes).

So I am curious if he will have Danielle drive. 

Danielle and Dani said they couldnt read maps well, but they only got lost following a team who got them lost.  In Brazil they did great navigating as well in Italy [but Dani was the Navigator], and Danielle was ok driving stick.  She did teribble driving in Italy but by far was not the worst of stick shift drivers [Meredith and Maria and Heather and Eve], but she was also with a partner that couldnt drive stick, maybe with Eric she would do a better job.  But its strange because she did fine driving in Brazil.   
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 15, 2007, 09:57:04 PM
I don't have the resolution to figure out where the gas station is. The sign looks like "something commercial de Pichincha" I hope that refers to the province; if it refers to the city or Gagua Pichincha volcano, then JVJ are way too far west. Another possibility is that they misheard or misspoke: there's a hacienda yanaurcu that takes a right turn into cotopaxi province instead of a left turn to cotopaxi volcano.

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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 10:35:38 PM
asamber thank you for that info, I would watch if I had Fox Reality but I don't  :(

Slowhatch !!

Consejo Provincial de Pichincha ??

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Post by: puddin on February 15, 2007, 10:44:25 PM
^^ if thats it? a farming school billboard?  :lol:

link  (http://www.espe.edu.ec/espe_portal/portal/main.do?sectionCode=311)

Consejo Provincial de Pichincha

To offer formacion academica and to develop farming investigation; to optimize the production, industrialization and farming commercialization in the estates that east agreement includes and in their zone of influence; To enable in the farming area to farmers, farming and consuming producers, promoters of the region; and, To provide academica attendance, educational qualification and update to and other participants of Tecnicos the Farming Institutes of the sector
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Post by: Kogs on February 15, 2007, 10:45:57 PM
asamber thank you for that info, I would watch if I had Fox Reality but I don't  :(

Slowhatch !!

Consejo Provincial de Pichincha ??

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its on again in 15 min lol i luvvvvv directv
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2007, 11:13:56 PM
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its on again in 15 min lol i luvvvvv directv

Thanks kogs! Specially since I turned it on just in time to see Rob getting his ass chewed out! :yess: (sorry puddin...)

Almost worth staying up past my bedtime for!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 01:12:55 AM
I patched together a map of the rough part of the journey to Hacienda Yanahurco.

Racers should have gone south from Quito to Machachi.  Then they would have done well to follow the black dotted line to the hacienda.

I found the Hacienda using apskip's reference to the river by that name.  The River of the Vicious Valley is a little east of the hacienda.

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2007, 04:55:28 AM
Nice!

From Whirley...


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they probably did drive themselves (out at least, in, I don't think so), there's only one road out, via a locked security gate, of the hacienda estate. it's a rough lava track and they'll have driven past the Yanahurco sign, it's pretty much like that for two hours and they'll go through Cotopaxi National Park to a town called Machachi then North up the Pan American Highway to Quito - if that's where they were flying from. It would be the nearest International Airport. I was riding along the road that day (it's complicated as we had two groups of tourists and I was escourting one group out whilst the others rode in, before coming back in via the road the following day) anyway, as we rode out there were 2 or 3 trucks driving steadily in convoy out. I don't know if they were contestants driving out or film crew. But yes, it's likely they'd drive out, and there's a check point to get out of the National Park before you get out to the town.

the ones taken up the hill are from a pretty little glass hut/viewing chalet, it's almost opposite volcanoes Cotopaxi and Quilindana - really great point to see the bulls and horses coming down the valley, and then into the corals.


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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 11:44:01 AM
I finally got Hacienda Yanahurco in GE.  Here is a tilted view to match one of the view photos

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Post by: puddin on February 16, 2007, 11:55:17 AM
Thanks for the pictures and map Chateau  :yess:
I don't have the resolution to figure out where the gas station is. The sign looks like "something commercial de Pichincha" I hope that refers to the province; if it refers to the city or Gagua Pichincha volcano, then JVJ are way too far west. Another possibility is that they misheard or misspoke: there's a hacienda yanaurcu that takes a right turn into cotopaxi province instead of a left turn to cotopaxi volcano.
and good call on the sign and the spec on hacienda yanaurcu, Slowhatch :)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 12:04:03 PM
Here is the layout in GE with in non-tilt and North is up mode.

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 12:46:38 PM
This shot was taken between 1:44 and 2:24 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: puddin on February 16, 2007, 01:07:46 PM
from the tvguide article ..so maybe Romber does not win the first leg afterall  :angel:

12:50
Gasping for air thanks to the 13,000 – foot altitude, the teams begin to arrive at the ranch. Dave runs ahead of Mary, urging her way along. “ Can’t you see I’m trying? I’m not as physically fit as you!”
Nearby, Dustin and Kandice---last season’s beauty queens---are celebrating Kandice’ 25th birthday. Dustin hands over a chocolate bar she’d hidden in her backpack.  It’s  an appropriate gift: She knows they’ll need the sugar for what lies ahead. “ Right from the Miami airport, I knew this was going to be tougher,” Dustin says.

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
This shot was taken between 12:30 and 12:55 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: michael on February 16, 2007, 01:34:38 PM
that sounds as though Dustin and Kandice check into the pit stop before David and Mary and are giving their interview while David and Mary are checking in.

I can't wait until Sunday!
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 01:39:16 PM
This shot was taken between 12:15 and 12:40 pm (assumes November 21st)

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Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 01:53:40 PM
I used  a Whirley photo to get those time estimates.   There is a path and a road that show up on GE.  In her photo I have given the times of day that the sun shines along each line.  The promo shot locations are also shown in her photo.

The sun is up to a altitude of about 70 deg at these times of the day.

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Post by: puddin on February 16, 2007, 01:54:20 PM
OK BQ's come in first and celebrate with Kandice's B-Day candy bar ....cool! Thanks Chateau  :waves:
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Post by: michael on February 16, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
ahh! if they come in first on Sunday i will be so happy! I know a lot of people hate them but I can't help but like them! :D
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Post by: Kogs on February 16, 2007, 02:04:21 PM
ahh! if they come in first on Sunday i will be so happy! I know a lot of people hate them but I can't help but like them! :D

same here ;D
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 16, 2007, 03:00:09 PM
And what kind of exotic trip will the BQ's win by coming first first?
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Post by: Big Papi on February 16, 2007, 03:04:21 PM
that sounds as though Dustin and Kandice check into the pit stop before David and Mary and are giving their interview while David and Mary are checking in.

I can't wait until Sunday!

"Gasping for air thanks to the 13,000 – foot altitude, the teams begin to arrive at the ranch."

That says they are arriving at the ranch Mike. IOW it appears that they have not yet done their detours at the ranch.  ???
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Post by: Kogs on February 16, 2007, 03:40:36 PM
And what kind of exotic trip will the BQ's win by coming first first?

10,000 dollars each if it still holds from seasons past
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 16, 2007, 04:58:02 PM
From this site Cotopaxi Nacional Parque (http://www.thebestofecuador.com/pncoto.htm)

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The main entrance is located some 5 km north of Lasso east with a sign marking the park. At the entrance you will pay a US $10.00 fee (locals will pay around US $1) before passing onwards past a museum and onto Lake Limpio Pungo at an altitude of 3840m.

It indicates that the sign we see in the JVJ clip may be located 5 km north of Lasso.  It looks like they drove about 15 km too far past Machachi (the recommended turning point).  Because the maps have a seam, I can't tell if it is possible to go from the park entrance road, through the park, and connect to the route from Machachi.  They may find out in a bitter way that you cannot !   :'(

Before I forget, these maps are coming from the link provided by apskip.

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Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2007, 05:58:47 PM
Great job with the maps!

I've put them in the Ecuador/Quito map section too in case we need a quick reference...
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Post by: red_sox on February 17, 2007, 04:39:33 AM
I will be fo'shizz devvo if the BQ's come in at first.. C/M have to win the first leg... or i will cry.. they need the money so Charla can get IVF don :(
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: mswood on February 17, 2007, 02:43:18 PM
Sweet Mother of God is it not Suday yet....... B:)

This weekend is going to take forever.

Thank god for MOnday off, so I can wallow in new AR. :yess:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 17, 2007, 05:09:53 PM
that sounds as though Dustin and Kandice check into the pit stop before David and Mary and are giving their interview while David and Mary are checking in.

I can't wait until Sunday!

Wouldnt that put David & Mary around front maybe middle of the pack ? because D & K are fast and in Puddins Leg one elimination poll alot ofpeaple are thinking D & K are placing first.... so what one is wrong? I just am confused because Dave & Mary that far ahead on leg 1 without a fast forward?
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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
If anyone wants to volunteer to do a summary of what we think we know I will insert/edit in the pictures :waves:
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Post by: mswood on February 17, 2007, 06:09:38 PM
that sounds as though Dustin and Kandice check into the pit stop before David and Mary and are giving their interview while David and Mary are checking in.

I can't wait until Sunday!

Wouldnt that put David & Mary around front maybe middle of the pack ? because D & K are fast and in Puddins Leg one elimination poll alot ofpeaple are thinking D & K are placing first.... so what one is wrong? I just am confused because Dave & Mary that far ahead on leg 1 without a fast forward?
Well most of the luck at this stage is getting to the right airline.

In season for example David & Mary got directions that avoided the traffic problems and made the first flight and was 5th out of 12 teams.  But when the actual physical taks started (she did good eating the eyes), the team dropped from 5th to 10th and was supposedily only 10 minutes or so ahead of Vipol and Arti when they checked in at the Pit Stop.

So I could see a physical tasks really slowing this team down from the position of possibly being on the first flight.
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Post by: red_sox on February 17, 2007, 06:29:41 PM
You guys are so lucky! I cant watch it until Wednesday.. it wont be uploaded to youtube until monday most likely, and your monday is my tuesday.. and im workin tuesday night..  :groan: :groan:
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 17, 2007, 06:33:24 PM
I'll start the what we know and don't know:


High speed cigarette boats transport 11 teams to the Charles Deering Estate in Miami, Florida.  They are released at about noon to begin their race around the world beginning with a clue to find this statue of the Virgin Mary located high atop a hill in the second highest capitol of the world.  Ref link (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1309238774060759099XLZkMU) 
They drive themselves to Miami International Airport.  Once at the airport, the teams jockey for positions on one of three flights.  Meanwhile, Rob & Amber busy themselves by hiding critical reference material from the other teams.

Three flights will carry the 11 teams to Quito Euador.  The first flight, on American Airlines, carrying John Vito & Jill, Rob & Amber, Charla & Mirna, Oswald & Danny, and Dustin & Kandice arrives at 7:50 pm.  The second flight, also on American Airlines, carrying the Guidos, Teri & Ian, and Eric & Danielle, arrives at 9:05 pm.  The last flight on Copa, carrying David & Mary, Kevin & Drew, and Uchenna & Joyce, arrives 40 minutes later at 9:45.

After they reach the Virgin Mary they find their first clue.    The clue directs them to go to a nearby restaurant Pim's Panecillo.  At the restaurant they find a Roadblock.  In this Roadblock one team member must eat a local dish of grilled guinea pig with potatoes.  When finished the teams may select one of three taxi departure times for the next morning:  7:30, 8:00, and 8:30 am. The last team to finish the pig is directed to find Phil.  Teri & Ian are mercilessly instructed to wash all the dishes.

After sunrise the teams receive their clues which direct them to select their transport from a row of taxis next to Pim’s.  They must find a monument known as Mitad del Munde located 12 miles away.  The ten teams make it to the monument in three packs.  From there they get their next clue directing them select an SUV and drive themselves 50 miles to the Hacienda Yanahurco located on the eastern bank of Cotopaxi, the highest active volcano in the world.  (Wikipedia says it is second highest but often mistakenly refered to as the highest.)  So that’s good enough for TAR.

JVJ who were unable to find one of the hidden maps get bad directions and head to the main park entrance to Cotopaxi National Park.

Once at the hacienda teams encounter a Detour.  In this Detour teams must chose between Medal or Metal.  In Medal they must wear military uniforms from the revolutionary war and find three medals hidden in the hills above the ranch.  In Metal they must use a rope to catch one of these tamed wild horses and change the horse’s iron shoes.  The BQ’s and Charla & Mirna arrive at the same time and both teams select Metal.  Dustin & Kandice manage catch to change and change the shoes of a horse while the cousins decide to switch detours and go for Metal.  BQ’s check in first and win $10K each.  After completing the Detour JVJ arrive last to the mat and are eliminated.


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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 07:16:10 PM
Meanwhile, Rob & Amber busy themselves by hiding critical reference material from the other teams.

John Vito to Borders employee " we can't find an Atlas"  ???
employee " I don't know what could have happened to them? this morning we had dozens?"  :reading:  :duno:
Jill " WHAT!? why those dirty ...%$%  (:;) "

Romber ":plane: :snics:  :sera: :ass: :stirtp:  :hoot: :hfive: "

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/13Feb0008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 17, 2007, 07:48:38 PM
I'll start the what we know and don't know:


High speed cigarette boats transport 11 teams to the Charles Deering Estate in Miami, Florida.  They are released at about noon to begin their race around the world beginning with a clue to find this statue of the Virgin Mary located high atop a hill in the second highest capitol of the world.  Ref link (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1309238774060759099XLZkMU) 
They drive themselves to Miami International Airport.  Once at the airport, the teams jockey for positions on one of three flights.  Meanwhile, Rob & Amber busy themselves by hiding critical reference material from the other teams.

Three flights will carry the 11 teams to Quito Euador.  The first flight, on American Airlines, carrying John Vito & Jill, Rob & Amber, Charla & Mirna, Oswald & Danny, and Dustin & Kandice arrives at 7:50 pm.  The second flight, also on American Airlines, carrying the Guidos, Teri & Ian, and Eric & Danielle, arrives at 9:05 pm.  The last flight on Copa, carrying David & Mary, Kevin & Drew, and Uchenna & Joyce, arrives 40 minutes later at 9:45.

After they reach the Virgin Mary they find their first clue.    The clue directs them to go to a nearby restaurant Pim's Panecillo.  At the restaurant they find a Roadblock.  In this Roadblock one team member must eat a local dish of grilled guinea pig with potatoes.  When finished the teams may select one of three taxi departure times for the next morning:  7:30, 8:00, and 8:30 am. The last team to finish the pig is directed to find Phil.  Teri & Ian are mercilessly eliminated sur le champs (on the spot).

After sunrise the remaining 10 teams receive their clues which direct them to select their transport from a row of taxis next to Pim’s.  They must find a monument known as Mitad del Munde located 12 miles away.  The ten teams make it to the monument in three packs.  From there they get their next clue directing them select an SUV and drive themselves 50 miles to the Hacienda Yanahurco located on the eastern bank of Cotopaxi, the highest active volcano in the world.  (Wikipedia says it is second highest but often mistakenly refered to as the highest.)  So that’s good enough for TAR.

So Teri and Ian are eliminated first so does that mean the elimination order is wrong or what?
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Post by: mswood on February 17, 2007, 07:55:10 PM
 :groan:

Chateau de If

Damn, I was reading completely seriously until you bummed Teri & Ian..... :yess:.

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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 07:57:33 PM
reality.tv., Teri & Ian are among the first pack of teams to arrive at Pim's Panecillo. I'm guessing Chateau is messing with us   :sera:


10:30pm
Nearly all the teams have arrived at a restaurant high atop a hill in Quito for an overnight break. Most of them are sitting around a table eating, talking, laughing. It seems like a class reunion as the conversation shifts from birthdays to religion. Dave and Mary Conley—last season’s  team Kentucky ---arrive, everyone at the table gives them a big ovation. .Exec producer Elise Doganieri steps over to ask what they’ll do when the final teams show up.“ We’ll give them comfort and hugs,” Amber says wryly. A grinning Ian Pollack, from Season 3---he and his wife, Teri, were the oldest team eer to finish in the Top 2 ---leans in. adding, “But tomorrow, it’s the dogs of war.”
 tvguide  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11440.300.html)
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 17, 2007, 08:20:35 PM
Okay, I fixed it.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2007, 09:02:38 PM
Chateau--that is a classic masterpiece! Just enough fact+fiction to be a hoot--next thing it will be being quoted as gospel @ Sucks!

Loved it--thanks for the giggle.... :kissy:

But you know, I really do remember reading something about  fried guinea pig  (http://www.pilotguides.com/destination_guide/south_america/ecuador_and_the_galapagos_islands/guinea_pig.php).... :( :(
No, no-- "I can't eat Sir Fluff-a-lot!"  (http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/05-12/specialty-of-the-house-ecuador.html)


Y'all keep your fingers crossed that I make it home from work in time to join the fun!
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Post by: mswood on February 17, 2007, 09:30:18 PM
Oh, Peach, I am so sorry that your work might stop you tomorrow. (:;)

That truely does suck.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 17, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
Thanks Peach, I tried to maintain a degree of accuracy and plausible believability to the story. 

I left out a lot of details because I have to deal with a busted water heater today.  I patched the WH back together so it would make enough hot water for a shower.  It had leaked so badly that it put out it's own pilot light.
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Post by: Chateau d If on February 17, 2007, 10:12:49 PM
Puddin,  where did you get this picture from?  Within the last 24 hours it has been posted by Mocoso as a GE Panoramio at exactly the spot I found using tilt view in GE.  Well Mocoso should know.  They took the picture.  But I wanted to follow up a little.

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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 10:16:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that is the same site I got it from Chateau? Sorry about your water heater  :kissy:

eta: keyhole (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Number/771252)
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 17, 2007, 10:18:51 PM
You guys are so lucky! I cant watch it until Wednesday.. it wont be uploaded to youtube until monday most likely, and your monday is my tuesday.. and im workin tuesday night..  :groan: :groan:

red_sox I usually download it on mininova on Monday 19th (Yes OUR MONDAY 19th!) and watch it on the Monday night as well so I'm only about a couple of hours behind the US  :wohoo:
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 17, 2007, 10:20:07 PM
Substitute "original" for "medium" in the url to get an even better picture.  :jam:
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 17, 2007, 10:29:56 PM
Do you guys do/have recaps on this forum?

SO EXCITED ARGH MY SISTER THINKS I'M CRAZY! But seriously I am. This show excites me. A lot.

 :happy:
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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 10:44:05 PM
Do you guys do/have recaps on this forum?

SO EXCITED ARGH MY SISTER THINKS I'M CRAZY! But seriously I am. This show excites me. A lot.

 :happy:
I'm pretty sure Scott does a recap on our newspage  (http://www.realityfanforum.com/) down_with_alli.
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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 10:56:02 PM
Substitute "original" for "medium" in the url to get an even better picture.  :jam:
OMG thats Hugh Slowhatch!!

lets see how big we can download it..brb

going to throw a potroast in the crockpot for tomorrow  :wohoo:

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 17, 2007, 11:09:18 PM
It's a (relatively) old flickr hack (http://www.tech-recipes.com/internet_tips1241.html) that works at other sites sometimes.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2007, 11:22:30 PM
Wow!

Is this why spaceball pics only save as blanks for me? Can I get around that by doing this? (If I can ever figure it out? :lol:)
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Post by: puddin on February 17, 2007, 11:58:01 PM
It's a (relatively) old flickr hack (http://www.tech-recipes.com/internet_tips1241.html) that works at other sites sometimes.
Saved in my favorirtes Slowhatch!! btw: Who is the man in your avatar?
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 18, 2007, 12:09:54 AM
Bill Murray as Carl Spackler in Caddyshack.  ;D 
Quote
So I jump ship in Hong Kong and make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 12:19:47 AM
OMG I luv that movie Slowhatch!  :jumpy: ..the picture did not click :lol:
Are we showing our age  :-[  :angel: ?
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 18, 2007, 12:25:16 AM
Oh yes and Happy Chinese New Year y'all.  :jumpy:

I'm half Chinese half Aussie so I get monies and red envelopes too  :tup:
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2007, 06:12:46 AM
Happy TAR- DAY! Whoopee!
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Post by: down_with_alli on February 18, 2007, 07:12:34 AM
Happy TAR- DAY! Whoopee!

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

I've got work tomorrow until 8pm here but hopefully the torrent will be up by then  :happy:
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Post by: survivorfan on February 18, 2007, 10:00:59 AM
can someone post here or pm me the following

 Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will finish in last place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will be the first to complete the detour?
 Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock?
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Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 10:30:30 AM
can someone post here or pm me the following

 Which team will finish in first place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will finish in last place on this leg/portion of the race?
Which team will be the first to complete the detour?
 Which team will be the first to complete the roadblock?

Here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11547.0.html) are some of our guesses amazingracefan .

First place the BQ's?
Last John Vito & Jill?
Detour BQ's finish first? and win first place finish?
No Roadblock?? pretty sure theres no time for one but not 100% sure about that... ?



Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 11:18:02 AM
Somebody has to eat the guinea pigs !
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Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 11:41:12 AM
Somebody has to eat the guinea pigs !
:browsie:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: cinni on February 18, 2007, 01:19:41 PM
Somebody has to eat the guinea pigs !
:lol3:

 :happy: happy dance of joy! it's tar-day!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 01:52:08 PM
Somebody has to eat the guinea pigs !

Thats gross, I had one for a pet before and I could never immagine doing that. Immagine smeone like Jill or Danielle I immagine probley had one before so watching there partners eat one / themselfs eat one might put on a pretty good show :lol3:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 02:00:13 PM
I had one too but it smelled like pee so gave it away but would never EVER think of eating one! :grins:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor14/snowani.gif)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor14/NL15Z4CAJONTE6CAFQOPXYCA1X2XT4CAKGC.jpg)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
OMG    :camping:

I want everyone to know that I was totally just speculating about the guinea pig eating Roadblock.

 :hides
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 02:12:28 PM
I had one too but it smelled like pee so gave it away but would never EVER think of eating one! :grins:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor14/snowani.gif)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor14/NL15Z4CAJONTE6CAFQOPXYCA1X2XT4CAKGC.jpg)

Is that a photo of a cooked Guinea Pig..........It looks like road kill, It looks pretty flattened  :lol3:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 02:17:12 PM
OMG    :camping:

I want everyone to know that I was totally just speculating about the guinea pig eating Roadblock.

 :hides

:nono2: ....... What makes you think they will eat one? Is it like a local tradition or delicacy?
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 02:29:59 PM
OMG    :camping:

I want everyone to know that I was totally just speculating about the guinea pig eating Roadblock.

 :hides
:lol: I wonder it would taste good with ketchup?
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 02:35:01 PM


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor14/NL15Z4CAJONTE6CAFQOPXYCA1X2XT4CAKGC.jpg)

I kinda looks like an over cooked steak with a head
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 02:43:50 PM
 :angel: see what you started Chateau  :lol:

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Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 02:46:27 PM
Technically they are just rodents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_pig). 

That dish looks like the long-dead rats I find under the house.

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Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 02:46:55 PM
:angel: see what you started Chateau  :lol:

(http://i16.[banned image hosting site].com/2myomqc.jpg)(http://i16.[banned image hosting site].com/2ikwmyg.jpg)

thankfully i cant have it. its not kosher :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 02:51:34 PM


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It does look kinda good. I wonder if they kill them for the meal  :badhorse: or if they wait till they "expire"
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Post by: mswood on February 18, 2007, 02:53:30 PM
Oh My God, you two are crazy.  I just spit my sody all over my bed.

That looks so gross.
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Post by: cinni on February 18, 2007, 04:03:53 PM
 :spitcoffee:

you bunch are so :naughty: love your new avatar puddin.

only a few more hours!!  :happy:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 04:19:51 PM
Thanks cinni  :hearts:! I stole the idea from Slowhatch's avatar and Chateau inspired me   :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 04:26:52 PM
I though we should discuss this great picture find of Puddin's.

Notice the clean lines that the chef has achieved with his cleaver.   :o

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Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 04:42:21 PM



That looks like they just took the Ginuea Pig and through  it into the fire  :flameout:  Or is that the "Dark meat?"

2 hours and 16 mins in counting! GO ERIC & DANIELLE!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 04:56:00 PM
Chateau I couldn't even enjoy my potroast  :lol:! I ate a few rolls and carrots only so if I passout from hunger during ARAS its your fault :lol3:!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: shanghilill on February 18, 2007, 05:15:10 PM
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Is that a photo of a cooked Guinea Pig..........It looks like road kill, It looks pretty flattened 

Oh that's just wrong people.  :'(

I'm calling Peta.  :(
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: makz3d on February 18, 2007, 05:19:00 PM
I saw a picture earlier today of guinea pigs being cooked in Ecuador.  Try this link for picture (my 1st time doing this)

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1309241789060759099plasxV (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1309241789060759099plasxV)


If that link doesn't work then:

Go to Reply 445 of this thread by Chateau d If and click on the Ref Link for picture of statue and then go to picture 43 of 89.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: shanghilill on February 18, 2007, 05:41:29 PM
Sorry I'm coming in late here..hard to catch up.   ;D

So who do we think comes in last John Vito & Jill or Teri & Ian?

Jv & J riight.

I'm guessing Joe & Bill say the title.

Enjoy the show peeps..it's almost here.  :geekon:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 05:51:04 PM
im getting worried golf is in sudden death!!!!!! i hate you lefty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 06:01:40 PM
golf is going to another playoff hole  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 06:22:42 PM
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 06:28:24 PM
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: michael on February 18, 2007, 06:36:08 PM
omg puddin, you nearly gave me a heart attack!

I can still watch the amazing race though cause we get CBS!

Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 06:48:10 PM
omg puddin, you nearly gave me a heart attack!

I can still watch the amazing race though cause we get CBS!



 nice!!!
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: gingerman28 on February 18, 2007, 07:09:28 PM
I estimate that TARAS will start at 8:24ET; that is unless they cut out some commercial time - but fat chance of that.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 07:11:52 PM
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
OOPS! Oh OK Kogs  :-[ :angel:! Sorry I was watching FOX all day and has no idea what was going on in the rest of TV Land  :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Kogs on February 18, 2007, 07:15:24 PM
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
OOPS! Oh OK Kogs  :-[ :angel:! Sorry I was watching FOX all day and has no idea what was going on in the rest of TV Land  :lol:

thats what happenes when you watch FOX all day  :lol: :lol: :angel:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 08:02:28 PM
Final verdict: John Vito & Jill ELIMINATED
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: purplepink on February 18, 2007, 08:14:35 PM
i liked john vito and jill and they were the first to be eliminated..why is it that the teams i like always get eliminated..except for t and j in season ten.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2007, 08:22:56 PM


Final verdict: John Vito & Jill ELIMINATED
Hell YEAH  :jumpy: and Romber first place  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2007, 08:25:33 PM
 :barf  (Romber #1)

 :'(    (for poor JVJ)
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: reality.tv. on February 18, 2007, 08:26:44 PM
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
OOPS! Oh OK Kogs  :-[ :angel:! Sorry I was watching FOX all day and has no idea what was going on in the rest of TV Land  :lol:

thats what happenes when you watch FOX all day  :lol: :lol: :angel:

Just so you know I live in Canada and I watched it on time  :neener: lol
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: dark alessa on February 18, 2007, 08:44:11 PM
wow I didn't know john and jill be the first one to go
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: apskip on February 18, 2007, 08:50:44 PM
I found these 4 things surprising in epsiode 1:

1. All AR11 teams were funneled onto either AA931 or COPA 301/211. Nobody was allowed to be placed on AA967 which also arrived before COPA.

2. Uchenna learned nothing about driving less cautiously from his San Juan experience. His driving to Hacienda Yanahurco was totally conservative. I had expected that he would have corrected that weakness from AR7, but he didn't.

3. Eric is an extremely aggressive driver and made up a lot of time taking some risks. I expect to see that several times more during other episodes of AR11.

4. The first place prize was not the expected $20,000 but instead just a trip. This tells me that either appearance money or significantly improved final placement bonuses are going to be awarded to all teams.

Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
Thank God there were no eating challenges tonight.   :lol:
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Post by: gingerman28 on February 18, 2007, 09:21:16 PM
Puddin, it looks like you have the correct dope afterall.  Or can we safely bet on the final three after you are lucky enough to be right about the first ep??

Looks like most of the teams learned their lesson about carrying big backpacks.  All except Kevin (or was that Drew) who looked like he was carrying everything including a kitchen sink on his back.  No way could that pack be carried on board a plane as fitting into the overhead or under the seat in front of you.  Most likely he would have to check that bag. 

The BQ's  were wearing matching blue longsleave shirts.  Jill was in gray.  Who was the blond in pink?  Danielle?
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 18, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
I'll second that. Your source is looking solid. Congratulations!  :yourock:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Slowhatch on February 19, 2007, 01:12:18 AM
So the taxis outside of Pim's were just there to take racers to the garage. And the "very unpleasant" task (BVM) was working with horses? To each his own, I guess  :js:. I'm always a little suspicious of the editing when they only reveal the top of the route card, but until more info comes along we won't know about any tasks that were edited out. In particular, Phil says that teams must use provided maps to drive 65 miles to the ranch; but the map is only a city map (an "Old Quito Map" that didn't look that old  ;D).

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Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 19, 2007, 01:40:57 AM
Yea, it will come out.  I've got shadows all over!   :knuckles:

They really cut out a lot of stuff from the show.  We have no clue which detour Kevin & Drew did.  At least I don't   :lol:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: apskip on February 19, 2007, 10:01:59 AM
There are two aspects of AR11 episode 1 that have plagued recent races - begging and taxis hired to lead racers. Two of the CBS videos shed some light on this. In one, Rob and Amber tell a Chicago area couple in a bookstore in Miami airport that they have no money(can't be true; see what Charla and Mirna say below) and that they are in a race and cannot beg them for the money to buy this $35 book on Eduador that they need, but will the couple please buy it for them (which they do). We now that in Quito Rob and Amber pay a taxi to lead them to Cotopaxi National Park. We later learn that there is an entrance fee of $10 (not clear if per person or vehicle) to the park.

Charla and Mirna asked a local in Quito to guide them and when they saw how it was impacting him to do so (bus fare back, etc.) they gave him all their money. When they got to the park entrance they had none for the park entrance fee but a tourist bus was there at the same time so they begged for it.

Which is it? Did the producers change the rules to eliminate begging or not? If they did, where is the enforcement and penalties?

Either way, seeing the use of a taxi leading Rob and Amber to victory was totally pathetic. I only hope that a lack of money in leg 4 proves to be his undoing.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 19, 2007, 08:27:05 PM
There was definitely a skipped task after Pim's. 

Sadly, what they did (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2766846&view=findpost&p=7188272) was not a trip to Mitad.
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2007, 08:40:12 PM
Good find Chateau  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: Chateau d If on February 19, 2007, 09:17:48 PM
Thanks Puddin.

Did anybody else see the awesome Venus-next-to-Moon (http://www.earthsky.org/skywatching) tonight?

I was just looking at it.  It will be gone in about 10 min so if you are on the West coast, have a look.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 21, 2007, 12:07:11 AM
Fwiw, Phil's standup was at the Bank of America tower on southeast 2nd street.

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Post by: Slowhatch on February 22, 2007, 10:11:11 PM
A poster Bread Baggage over at TWOP (who knows a lot more about horses than I do) also thinks there was something odd/wrong about the "wild horse" sequence.
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Feral horses wear their feet down fairly well. You won't see mustangs from roundups that have feet like those, nor as in appalling condition body-wise. For a horse to grow hooves like those seen last night, they aren't able to move around enough to do so. The one in particular that they showed having trouble walking was just horrendous and would have taken months of rehab to get healthy. Some of the horses they trimmed were younger, and the feet were not in as bad of shape. Hog-tying them and having someone with no knowledge of hoof anatomy just clipping away at them wasn't likely helping them much at all, possibly even harming them. I know they called them "wild", but something is up - the land they are kept on obviously cannot sustain them and their movement is somehow impeded so that they cannot move around enough to wear their hooves properly. I realize different cultures, different economics, different priorities, but, man - that was so difficult for me to watch. I had to turn away more than once.

As someone who has owned horses for 25 years and been involved in horse rescue for almost 10, the condition of the horses was absolutely appalling. Horses in that type of condition, if belonging to an individual, would be confiscated in this country. Not just their feet, they were horridly thin & malnourished as well as obviously infested with parasites. Their surroundings cannot sustain them nutritionally - everything I saw, except for the donkey (which has a much lower caloric need) body scored approximately a "2" on the Heineke scale - a scale from 1 (near death) to 10 (morbidly obese). A healthy horse will generally score about a 4.5-6. And cutting off their tails (no, they won't get stuck on rocks, etc.) was downright cruel as well. They need their tails to swish away flies and other blood sucking insects that like to make meals of horses. With no tail, they cannot protect themselves from them.

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Post by: puddin on February 22, 2007, 10:32:48 PM
 :'( Fernando is dead to me :hand:
Title: Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
Post by: mswood on February 22, 2007, 10:44:40 PM
There are two aspects of AR11 episode 1 that have plagued recent races - begging and taxis hired to lead racers. Two of the CBS videos shed some light on this. In one, Rob and Amber tell a Chicago area couple in a bookstore in Miami airport that they have no money(can't be true; see what Charla and Mirna say below) and that they are in a race and cannot beg them for the money to buy this $35 book on Eduador that they need, but will the couple please buy it for them (which they do). We now that in Quito Rob and Amber pay a taxi to lead them to Cotopaxi National Park. We later learn that there is an entrance fee of $10 (not clear if per person or vehicle) to the park.

Charla and Mirna asked a local in Quito to guide them and when they saw how it was impacting him to do so (bus fare back, etc.) they gave him all their money. When they got to the park entrance they had none for the park entrance fee but a tourist bus was there at the same time so they begged for it.

Which is it? Did the producers change the rules to eliminate begging or not? If they did, where is the enforcement and penalties?

Either way, seeing the use of a taxi leading Rob and Amber to victory was totally pathetic. I only hope that a lack of money in leg 4 proves to be his undoing.

apskip

Well, I think we can safely say that Rob mostly ikely did lie about not having money.  We have to assume that the 49.00 they got for the leg was in their packet at the starting line (eric & Danielle say 49 at the Pit stop on camera insider clips, JV & Jill say 48 months later in interviews, I would stick withte  recolection from later that day).  They needed taht money to be able to pay for cabs out of the airport.

But, it is possible that Rob & was telling the truth about a limitation of begging.

2 real possabilities.

1.  Not being allowed to beg in the US airports (In the past teams could, but it is possible that over the years this has changed). After all there is no beenfit for Rob not to just ask for money.  Teams can usually manage more tehn that if they push while begging.

2.  It might be that the limitation is for the whole race, that teams can beg, but they can't directly recieve money from locals.

Rob begged for him to buy him a book.  Still begging, but no money went into Rob's hands.

When Charla & Mirna begged for the 10 for the park entrance fee, it is possible that they did the same.  Had one of the people they were begging from (or a group) hold the money until enough was collected that a local could purchase the pass and give it to them.

So we will have to wait for more episodes to see if there is a general new rule limiting how teams can beg.

Personally I hope so.

The producers did say they were making it harder for teams to pay for escorts, that could certainly be one of the possible ways.
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 22, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
I agree. I just watched the video and Rob says "we're not allowed to ask for money" and "we're not allowed to take money from you." My guess is that their instructions for the whole season were specifically worded in something resembling those quotes, so the sequence boils down to Rob at his specialty: bending (but not breaking) the rules.
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Post by: Slowhatch on February 23, 2007, 01:43:03 AM
Before the teams reach the park sign/farm bureau sign, you can see the cars pass a road sign. It's a little puzzling, since Machachi and Latacunga are both on the PanAm highway. The only guess I could offer that makes sense is that the PanAm is only a tangent to Machachi, and that the turnoff is right next to the city.

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Post by: puddin on March 13, 2007, 07:25:50 PM
fwiw urbanofilms (http://www.urbanofilms.com/clientes/en/clients.html)