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Title: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 07, 2006, 07:59:02 PM
To be honest, the best players never really make it as the winner. If the best players had made it this year it would have been Will and Janelle.

Generally, the weaker players will band together to get rid of the strongest ones.

So should BB consider changing the rules and find a way so the best ones make and the weak ones don't?
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Krissi [I love Shia] on September 07, 2006, 08:01:20 PM
no because then people will think it is like fixed!!! I like it just the way it is!!! lol .. but good idea!
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 07, 2006, 08:02:40 PM
I know. There's probably no way to do it. Unless they have the competitions and the one is worst for each week is the one who gets the boot.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Krissi [I love Shia] on September 07, 2006, 08:05:56 PM
ya .. lol .. that is kinda a good idea!! Cuz i hated seeing Will leave!!!! I love janelle and will together!!!
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Casey on September 07, 2006, 08:12:45 PM
I think the show is already fixed. Both competitions Janelle was in WERE very physical.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: hotpepper on September 07, 2006, 08:41:45 PM
I think it was rigged for boogie. he made a comment about a friend that works there and erica is said to be a employee of cbs
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: ChadsBaby on September 07, 2006, 11:02:09 PM
So what was Janelles excuse last year? And also in that one veto (the one that sent Will out basically) wasn't it said that some of Erikas hooks were missing. Things that make you go hmmmmm.

And honestly I don't think you can send the worst player out each week, because depending on the comp Janelle could've left. She isn't good at endurance and is the first to admit that.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Jeffrey Scott on September 07, 2006, 11:04:45 PM
Hmmm, and just two weeks ago people were saying the game was fixed in favor of Janelle, now CBS has the game rigged so she doesn't win? Make up your minds people.  :meow:
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 08, 2006, 03:09:06 AM
Like it or not, the two that get to the final 2, have to be good. Comps aren't the only thing that wins this game. You have to have brains (and yes, Boogie is very smart, he's a whiz at math). It may not be the two that you wanted, but you have to give the final  2 props for being good enough to outsmart others to get there.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: RudyRules on September 08, 2006, 03:18:30 AM
Yeah, they should overhaul the rules.  They should go back to BB1 and let AMERICA vote for who should be evicted. 
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Reality Junkee on September 08, 2006, 01:45:26 PM
ya .. lol .. that is kinda a good idea!! Cuz i hated seeing Will leave!!!! I love janelle and will together!!!


Kri$$i, just had to say I LOVE the signatures you have.  ESPECIALLY Will & Boogies phone calls. :lol:   It was sad last night when Boogie did it alone and how the other didn't answer :'(

Okay, I'm hoping someone will answer this question:  This was my first season ever watching BB.  I gather it was season 2 that Will and Boogie met, right?  How did they come up with the name ChillTown for the two of them? ???
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 08, 2006, 01:55:02 PM
I know that Chilltown is the nickname for Jersey City. Not sure if either of them are affiliated with Jersey. I also think it's a Rap thing. I always figured it was because they were 'chillin' and then they came up with chilltown.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Reality Junkee on September 08, 2006, 03:06:41 PM
I know that Chilltown is the nickname for Jersey City. Not sure if either of them are affiliated with Jersey. I also think it's a Rap thing. I always figured it was because they were 'chillin' and then they came up with chilltown.

Thanks Texas_kimmie for letting me know :luvu: :hugs:
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: kc on September 08, 2006, 04:19:52 PM
as much as i dislike the final two that have been winning every time i seem to watch something.  i dont think that it makes them bad players.  the "best" player is subjective.  you can be good at comps but a total idiot.  I think janie made a lot of mistakes in allowing herself to be used by chilltown so who is the better player? janie for winning all the comps or chilltown for letting her win and having her bring them along while doing their dirty work?

I dont think it should go totally back to the way it was in season 1 (cuase that got boring and we all knew the day the show started who was goingto win)  I think they should have it so that america gets a vote (not the tie breaker vote but an actual vote)  everything could play out like it does right through the veto cermony then after the veto cermony the phone lines could open until sometime during the day of the eviction show.  that way the houseguest would have 1 vote they could not control.  If it was a week where there could potentinally be a tie then it could be handled like a normal tie now the hoh would have to make that decision.  I wold also love to have one week be americas choice HOH

That might make us feel more involved cause this year they didnt give us any americas choice either and if it keeps going like it has america will choose not to watch it period
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 09, 2006, 08:46:03 AM
I don't think America will choose not to watch. I think going back to "real everyday people" next year will be harder than watching people we already "know." It will for me anyway. I thought it was may more fun this year. Anyway, I do think there should be an "america vote" somehow incorporated into the show. I mean, look at the success of American Idol, So you think you can dance, etc. America loves to spend that money voting. lol.  It gives you a stake in how things turn out, and if you don't like it you only have yourself to blame for not voting. Plus, it would change how people play the game because WE get to see everything, whereas now, the people voting only know what the other houseguests want them to know. Could be very interesting. We'll see if they take any of our suggestions.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: kc on September 09, 2006, 09:52:14 AM
thats what i was saying.  i dont want it to be only americas choice like in the first season.  I do like the figthing and plotting.  but it would be something they (hg) wouldnt have control over becuase they wouldnt know who america loved or what they were thinking.

And i still like my americas choice as hoh LOL
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 09, 2006, 04:12:56 PM
Not really for America voting, since America can't be trusted not to cheat and stuff the ballot box so their fave can win. I know people who spend all day voting again and again so their favorite will be number one.

I think it would be more fair if there were a series of comepetitions both mental and physically challenging and that the worst person cumulatively would be booted. It would also eliminate throwing contests, since if you did that, it would be a sure way to the shown to the door.

I really think the HOH's bedroom and all the other guests oohing and aahing has gotten way old.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Enchanted on September 09, 2006, 04:50:40 PM
It all comes down to how good you are at manupulating people ... peroid.

Booger and Dr. Delicious prooved this.

You would win tons of comps but it only helps a little. Cause as soon as tyou loose one HOH and or Veto you will be gone, unless you can manipulate people.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Will4Pres on September 09, 2006, 05:07:56 PM
ya .. lol .. that is kinda a good idea!! Cuz i hated seeing Will leave!!!! I love janelle and will together!!!


  How did they come up with the name ChillTown for the two of them? ???

I'm pretty sure it was Kent who came up with the nick name Chill Town,  He called them that because of their attitude and refereed to the rest of the house as real people. Yes Kent was a weird dude.

I guess Mike Will and Shannon  liked the name and it stuck

FYI Janie and Erika could NEVER replace Shannon as the origanal CT princess
She was loyal to the boys and would have never schemed behind thier backs and been the one to Evict either one of them

If this was a true ALL STAR show it would have been the origanal Chill Town VS The Sov  Now that would have been a show
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 09, 2006, 06:17:14 PM
I'd pick Janelle over Shannon any day.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: GnarlyMarly on September 09, 2006, 06:48:00 PM
You guys got to remember that Big Brother isn't about who wins the most competitions, it's a friggin social game...you need to be smart and cunning, and know how to work with people, as much as I dislike Boogie he was very good at doing those things, and Janelle as awesome as she was at winning things she was easily manipulated and made quite a bit of mistakes not only this season but last year as well.

I think it should stay the same...it's unfair for the whole competition to be slanted towards the "good players" it should be an even playing field, thats the beauty of BB...the unpredictability and that even strong competitors can fall from one move.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: aprilsvagina on September 09, 2006, 07:15:07 PM
during season 2 there was one peticular bedroom that was colder than any room in the house.will,boogie,shannon,and krista all used to sleep in there.they were all allies therefore they decided to call themselves chilltown.i heard will explain that to someone this year on the live feeds.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 09, 2006, 08:04:53 PM
It all comes down to how good you are at manupulating people ... peroid.

Booger and Dr. Delicious prooved this.

You would win tons of comps but it only helps a little. Cause as soon as tyou loose one HOH and or Veto you will be gone, unless you can manipulate people.

I think you make a good point. Being trapped in a house with 12 strangers and not being able to leave is very psychological and so is manipulation.

If you cut out all the comps, manipulating people would be the only way you could win.

I think if anyone comes in thinking they can play it clean that they're fooling themselves.

I've noticed several of the all-stars in the goodbye vids said what an ugly game BB is.

It is an ugly game and you have to get ugly if you want to win. In a way the HG are like rats in a maze and there's only one piece of cheese and you have to do whatever you have to do to get that piece of cheese.

I think when Danielle had to be in total isolation that was a more severe form of what the HG's go thorugh. For all intents and purposes they are all in isolation. Add to that they know they're being watched 24/7 and you're not going to act like yourself.

I remember a few years back to Erika's season, I think it was, one of the HG's had to be removed because he couldn't handle the pressure of that situation and they were afraid he was going to turn violent.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 10, 2006, 12:16:34 AM
Was that a guy named Justin or something that pulled a knife? He said it was a joke, but I guess they didn't want to take that chance. His name might not be justin but somehow that name rings a bell.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 10, 2006, 12:50:54 AM
Justin was Allison's ex boyfriend, I think. That was the big twist. That some had an ex-significant other in the house.

I keep thinking it might have been Erika's ex.

Boy, I want to blame that woman for everything, don't I?
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 10, 2006, 01:59:54 AM
I was thinking Erika's ex was a guy named Robert. I may be really off here. I know one season there was a guy that got kicked out by the producers for pulling a knife or something.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: kc on September 10, 2006, 05:20:27 AM
the guy who was expelled was named justin but he was on season 2 with Will and Boogie.  Allisons boyfriend was also named justin, One of Erikas ex's was on that season (4) with her his name was robert.  the season (4)with allison and erika was the one where some of the houseguests ex's were also in the house.  Allisons, Erikas, and even jun had an ex in the house
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 10, 2006, 12:27:49 PM
There was another one. For some reason I keep thinking his name was Brian. He started throwing things around, he got called into the diary room and he never came back.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: kc on September 10, 2006, 12:54:29 PM
hummm  i dont remember him.  i guess when you have group of strangers trapped in a house all with different personalities you are bound to have a few problems
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 10, 2006, 01:04:23 PM
Especially if some aren't wrapped too tightly.

I think it was either in season 4 or season 5.

Think it may have been the season when they had the twins secretly switching places and revealed Cowboy and Nakomis were brother and sister.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: kc on September 10, 2006, 01:27:24 PM
i still dont remember taht duh   must have missed that episode.

i think a lot of them are losely wrapped  :jumpy:
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 10, 2006, 04:19:06 PM
I missed most of that season, who were the twins that kept switching places?
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 10, 2006, 07:17:44 PM
One of the twins was named Adria. They kept switching places playing as one player.
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: TannerB on September 10, 2006, 07:20:11 PM
The other one was Natalie. I hated the both of them
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: Texas_kimmie on September 10, 2006, 07:50:21 PM
Thanks! Where did the other one go when their twin was in the house?
Title: Re: Should BB overhaul their rules?
Post by: WillRules on September 10, 2006, 07:54:08 PM
I think she was in a secret room in the house.

Found out the guy booted. His name was Scott. He was Amanda's ex, the first HG to have *** on live TV. It happened season 4, the season Erika was in the house.