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From Paradise to Eden – Fox Prepares for Reality Soap Opera
by David Bloomberg -- 12/22/2003

Fox has joined up once again with the producers of Paradise Hotel to expand and improve upon the concept. Starting in the Spring, expect to see Forever Eden, the first reality show without a definite end date – but with soap opera tendencies.

When Paradise Hotel started last summer, Fox talked about it having no definite ending, no prize, that it would just go on as long as it was warranted. Well, critics, viewers, and the producers of the show might have disagreed on how long it truly was “warranted,” but it filled the summer and then some, and eventually came up with a twisted prize structure. Now, however, Fox is trying again with the same producers, according to Variety.

The show, currently called Forever Eden, will be a reality soap opera that can go on as long as ratings support it. It will feature unmarried men and women who leave their lives behind to live in a luxury resort setting… for years.

Fox is so certain of this concept that they have given an order for 25 weekly one-hour episodes. It is expected to premiere some time this Spring, and while no airing schedule has yet been determined, producers say Fox has promised to be patient while the show builds an audience.

Mike Darnell, Fox’s alternative executive Vice President, said that the participants could be on for six month or three years – depending on if they want to stay and how they play their cards. He added that if somebody is looking to be famous beyond the normal 15 minutes you get with most reality shows, this is the ticket – “This is a chance to be famous for a long time.” Of course what he failed to mention is that they would be famous but still locked away in their resort, unable to reap the benefits of that fame until they leave and, presumably, aren’t so famous anymore.

Darnell referenced Paradise Hotel, mentioning that they learned some lessons from that show. “When you keep people in one place long enough, dysfunction and a little bit of dementia sets in. So it got us to thinking, how long can people stay?” Well, it seems to me, personally, that they didn’t have to run Paradise Hotel to find that out – we’ve seen Big Brother participants go stir crazy after weeks or months.

Apparently, one way to keep them around is that they will somehow be paid. The details are unclear, but it was noted that if a participant walks away voluntarily because they can’t stand it anymore, they will lose everything. If they are asked to leave (again, no details on whether it would be a vote or what), they lose half. But at certain points, such as an anniversary date, they could choose to leave with everything. Still, that will present participants with difficulties – if somebody has stuck around a while and accumulated a lot, they won’t want to voluntarily leave, even if they are going nuts.

But the producers plan to spice things up to keep it interesting. They will present lots of twists to the players, along with guest appearances from relatives or friends and changes in the cast. As mentioned above, there is no current information on how cast changes will occur, but producers have said it won’t follow the pairing off format that Paradise Hotel had. Although, of course, producers hope for coupling on the show. Casting has already begun, though there is no apparent information about it on the Fox website.

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Well it looks like Fox did it again........Yep they ruined another show........I really hate Fox..first they ruined Firefly..then John Doe..now Eden...

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 12:12 PM
FOX Dumps 'Forever Eden' Until Summer
By Brian Ford Sullivan

CHICAGO (thefutoncritic.com) -- FOX will once again go back to the drawing board on Friday nights as the network revealed today it has pulled its reality series "Forever Eden" from its schedule effective immediately.

FOX's previously announced baseball coverage will fill the network's Friday slot this week while back-to-back episodes of "Totally Outrageous Behavior" and "World's Craziest Videos" are scheduled for April 23. Movies, beginning with "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider," will fill the entire Friday block starting April 30, the first Friday of the May sweeps period. The news means "Eden" more than likely won't resurface again - if at all - until the summer at the earliest.

"Eden" managed a paltry 1.9 rating/3 share in households and a 1.1 rating in adults 18-49 for its most recent airing according to preliminary fast national data. Should both scores hold up nationally, they would mark the network's worst performance in the Friday, 9:00/8:00c hour this season.

FOX has 16 additional episodes of "Eden" left to air

This is what the Fox Network has up on its Forever Eden Website ??  ???

Link~  http://forums.prospero.com/foxeden/start

Where did Forever Eden Go Wrong?   
Author: Carrie
Published: 2004/4/16

FOX announced this week that 'Forever Eden', the show that had been billed as never-ending, was being pulled from its schedule, effective immediately. The ratings must have been much worse than anyone anticipated, as there were still 16 episodes filmed, edited, and ready to air when the show was pulled.

So what happened? How did a show that promised to be as much a hit as last summer's 'Paradise Hotel' end up going down the ratings drain? In the humble opinion of this reality television addict, there were several factors that added to the demise and eventual banishment of 'Eden'.

Timing is Everything

'Paradise Hotel' was a summer fling - a guilty pleasure that went hand in hand with the carefree feelings that the warm summer weather brings. It started out with a few twists, but we had time to get to know the characters and the dynamics of the group before the new people started arriving and the "originals" were asked to leave Paradise...forever. Above and beyond that, PH was shown twice a week in a regular, dependable timeslot. Even if we couldn't tune in, we could set our VCR's/TiVo's to record the show and know that we weren't going to get a rerun of '24' or 'The Simpsons'.

'Eden' kicked off in the winter months, while some of us were still under a blanket of snow. Maybe it was just more difficult for us to relate to the group of bikini-clad twenty-somethings while in our real lives we were wearing ski jackets and ear muffs.

A shuffling schedule cost 'Eden' many, many viewers. It started off with 'American Idol' as the lead-in, and caught many viewers that way. But then the show was pitted against two reality titans, 'Survivor: All Stars' and 'The Apprentice' on Thursday nights. Who had time for three hours of reality tv in one night? FOX finally moved the show to Friday nights, but by then it was too late. Even if we had known it was being moved again (which a lot of us didn't), there's a reason most big shows aren't scheduled for Friday nights. It's just not a great time for new programming to pick up new viewers. Many people who had watched the show faithfully since the premiere simply gave up at this point.

Imitation is the Greatest Form of Flattery

While similarities between the two shows were to be expected, ‘Eden’ wasted no time in incorporating PH-style elements, from the quirky British host to the twists that seemed to be thrown in at the whims of the producers. The problem? This kind of thing was fresh and new last summer. This time around we were expecting something just a little different.

The Cast of Characters

You can write up the greatest premise in the world for a reality show, but it will flop if the cast is dull. I’m not saying that the cast of ‘Eden’ was a group of boring individuals. But we never really got to know them outside of the partying and scheming. We weren’t shown a human side to most of them, and any glimpse into their real personalities was edited out in favour of a steamy romp or a drunken spat. Sure, people behaving badly make for good TV, but if you don’t care about the people doing the nasty stuff one way or the other, it takes away from the drama.

In keeping with the PH comparisons, they had the most dysfunctional group of people at the very centre of the show. Zack, Amy, Toni, Alex – they all had very strong alpha-type personalities which were guaranteed to clash. Throw in the “nice” ones – Kavita, Dave – and the eccentrics and artists – Matthew JC, Charla, Tom – and the mix was complete. A few schemers like Keith and Tara just added to the overall picture, and we couldn’t stop watching.

While ‘Eden’ had its’ stand-outs, most of the people just didn’t stir things up like their predecessors. Sure, the twists had everyone on their toes, but those involved just didn’t seem to be that into it.

A Little Surprise Goes a Long Way

Finally, one of the things that hooked those of us who watched PH was that we had no idea how or when it would end. And what was the ultimate prize? Who knew? The speculation was almost as much fun as the actual show. With ‘Eden’, the whole idea was simple – stay as long as you can, and when you leave you get cash. Period. No ‘hook up or get out’, no mystery, nothing to keep us coming back for more.

So What Now?

It’s been suggested that FOX will bring ‘Eden’ back to us this summer, and that might not be a bad idea. Hopefully in the meantime they will take a look at the big picture and figure out how to hook us.

Personally, I’d rather see a ‘Paradise Hotel’ sequel. Bring back the over-the-top outrageous characters. Bring back the mystery, the intrigue, the twists that we could all see coming a mile away but didn’t think would actually happen. Give us a show that we know will end, even if we don’t know how. Give us back the cheesy, soap-opera-like, shocking, dramatic moments that we talked about for weeks on end.


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