Topic: TAR 29 Speculation and Discussion of **SPOILERS**

[fossil-racer]

So Leg 6 is done?
and there filming for Leg 7?
KOR?

[tennis33]

Paddle gondola through canals!!

[georgiapeach]

Is Phil just doing tomorrow's standup now? Is that a team?

[georgiapeach]

We wouldn't have U-Turn and then  a KOR, would we?

So it has to be Phil just doing his Intro...unless that IS a team? Help?

[Maanca]

It seems likely it's a KOR, that's an awfully quick Pit Stop, but I wonder how they got there.

Varenna is near the northern border of Italy, while Venice is on the northeast shore. It's a bit of a distance to travel.

[bottle]

It's 282 kms between Varenna and Venice so maybe self-driving there? It would be cool if that's the case

[Alenaveda]

We wouldn't have U-Turn and then  a KOR, would we?

So it has to be Phil just doing his Intro...unless that IS a team? Help?

TAR27, leg 4, Peach.

It seems likely it's a KOR, that's an awfully quick Pit Stop, but I wonder how they got there.

Varenna is near the northern border of Italy, while Venice is on the northeast shore. It's a bit of a distance to travel.

Three and a half hours approximately by car. Almost five on bus and train, via Milan.

[MoDay]

Looks like dream team members/stand-ins in the boat. I don't think Phil would do an introduction that would slow a team down like that.

[georgiapeach]

He is doing the live stuff right with them these days, but I agree w/ Slowhatch...actors or some VERY lucky tourists!! 

Damn, these legs from Zanzibar on are making this my fave route ever! Now...Burma please!

[TC]

Unless they were super motivated and started the teams out at 5am, It's a huge undertaking to do a leg north of Milan and then go to Venice either by car or train and then transit Venice on foot from parking lots or train station to do Two legs unless there was some type of air transport involved between the two locations. Just the drive with traffic and toll booths takes a long time and the trains are still two plus hours between Milan and Venice.  Tack on longer if they have to catch a local train from Como or even to drive to the Milan station before getting on a train.  Makes me think two legs.

[Slowhatch]

I think I have the pitstop/KOR point. The hillside looks good, and the balustrade looks good (can't account for the ivy, but maybe it's just a date thing). Viewpoint here; turn the camera around and you'll see the Villa Sola Cabiati.

[Neobie]

Yes Slowhatch! I was wondering why the viewpoints from Varenna itself were all slightly off! The sun's far to the east. They must have been there early.

Jumping back a little, it's likely Tanzania was only one leg. Teams arrived in Zanzibar the afternoon of 16 Jun, and were next seen in Ålesund on 19 Jun. Based on typical production schedules, they'd give Phil an extra day between two less-well-connected places, so there's two calendar days (i.e. 17 and 18 Jun) between "racing days" for rest and travel. That means there isn't enough time for a second leg in Tanzania.

[TC]

The pic with Phil actually looks like it's from the Bellagio side.  Bellagio is a quick boat ride from Varenno and could be where the teams were heading.  They did have there packs on so it doesn't appear they planned on returning to Varenno.

[Boingo]

Trying to find Phil... not all canals have walkways, in fact, very few... at least those that look like this.  While it's not an exact match, the Phil stand-up in the gondola could have been filmed some where along this particular canal, possibly from a bridge.     Damn, there are so may canals there.   

[ianthebalance]

I thought we had a picture of a team leaving the Sao Paulo pit stop on the 14th?

[Neobie]

You're right! I based my post off Peach's flight here. Peach, could the flight have been off by a day? (If that flight is confirmed, that would mean 2 legs in Sao Paulo.)

The Lake Como spot found by Slowhatch is on the Cadenabbia side.

[georgiapeach]

NEOBIE!  Where have you BEEN??

Thank Goodness!  I was just sitting down to make sense of the flights.

Yes, sorry, that should have been on the 14th...I posted that late and had prob slept 5 min in 48 hrs

And in addition to the Zanzibar posts we also have this tweet which I do not believe was posted.

The poster was departing Zanzibar airport:  On the day we think our guys might have been heading out as well...

So many camera men filming .... Two guys in the airport


11:12 AM - 18 Jun 2016

 

So maybe we can see if we do have a Tanzania leg? I can't believe there wouldn't be one....

  for Neobie!!

[georgiapeach]

Looking like several important bits got missed about Zanzibar when Norway appeared in the middle of our reveal.

Let me check a few things and will also message you Neobie.

And IF I miscalculated by a day there may be room for a Tanzania leg BEFORE Zanzibar...


ugh

[Slowhatch]

After comparing rooftops, windows, housing rows etc. I'm going to spot the W-Turn cluebox in Verenna, a short distance from where they boarded the boats.

[theschnauzers]

Could a short duration KOR leg have happened on the Tanzania mainland either before or after the known Zanzibar leg? And wouldn't that keep filming pace on schedule?

And unless there was definite info on the destination of flights out of Sao Paulo there remains a possibility teams flew elsewhere in Brazil other than Rio; I don't recall seeing anything in the live sightings that definitively closed the door on that possibility.

[NumfarPTB]

Could a short duration KOR leg have happened on the Tanzania mainland either before or after the known Zanzibar leg? And wouldn't that keep filming pace on schedule?

And unless there was definite info on the destination of flights out of Sao Paulo there remains a possibility teams flew elsewhere in Brazil other than Rio; I don't recall seeing anything in the live sightings that definitively closed the door on that possibility.

As much as would be fun to have another leg in Brazil, 2 legs in Africa do seem more likely considering those couple days we lost them after leg 3 started on the 14th.  My reasoning is: 1) there's not enough time to fly out to anywhere in Brazil remote enough (emphasis on remote enough) to get us no sightings between 06/14~15 and 2) not many flights out to Tanzania, as the production, Phil and teams would just have to get back to Sao Paulo again anyway, and the lack of flights does make the coordinating Phil arriving before teams harder.

Spec:
leg 3 - Sao Paulo, Brazil - Tanzania / Africa 1 - 06/14~15
leg 4 - Zanzibar, Tanzania - 06/16-17
leg 5 - Zanibar, Tanzania -  Ålesund, Norway - 06/18-19
leg 6 -  Ålesund, Norway - Lake Como, Italy - 06/20-21

[Dzony95]

Could this be filming of a Roadblock in Venice?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9DJJ9guXw/?taken-by=lisahyl

[Platrium]

Is it possible to have 2 legs in Africa, with the 1st African pit stop being a Keep on Racing one?

[Dzony95]

Could this be filming of a Roadblock in Venice?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9DJJ9guXw/?taken-by=lisahyl

I guess it's not TAR because there are just too many people

There's another one with cameras in background:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9K9LOnkKy/?tagged=watercycle
More info about these bikes: http://shuttlebike.com/

[Plaidmoon]

Could this be filming of a Roadblock in Venice?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9DJJ9guXw/?taken-by=lisahyl

I guess it's not TAR because there are just too many people

There's another one with cameras in background:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9K9LOnkKy/?tagged=watercycle
More info about these bikes: http://shuttlebike.com/

Here's a tweet from yesterday that shows the guy on the shuttle bike from the front.

Gael Garcia BernalVerified account ‏@GaelGarciaB  16h16 hours ago
3rd season, amicci. We begin in Venice, cause all waters lead to La Fenice. #MozartInTheJungle @MITJAmazon

Apparently they are filming a show called Mozart In The Jungle, an Amazon Original series.