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TAR24 Transportation
« on: November 06, 2013, 11:21:18 PM »
In honor of the late Apskip, and here's the post before he died:

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Please enter your comments and information on AR24 flights, trains, ferries, boats, driving routes and whatever else pertains to transportation here.

 
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 08:05:51 PM »
I see one direct flight:
CZ 328 from Los Angeles to Guangzhou, 16/2230-18/0540
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 08:14:06 PM »
Racers were at EVA Air, perhaps they transit in Taipei?
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 08:17:44 PM »
Can I get a timeframe? I haven't seen any spoilers other than Chateau's yet. Here're the Eva Air options:

BR 11 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 16/1550-17/2235
BR 15 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 16/2245-18/0530
BR 1 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 16/2325-18/0610
BR 707 from Taipei to Guangzhou, 18/0810-1015

Here are some alternative options with connections, with both legs on the same airline:

CX 883 from Los Angeles to Hong Kong, 16/2220-18/0600
CX 6782/KA 782 from Hong Kong to Guangzhou, 18/0800-0855

CA 984 from Los Angeles to Beijing, 17/0040-18/0530
CA 1351 from Beijing to Guangzhou, 18/0805-1055

OZ 203 from Los Angeles to Seoul, 17/0030-18/0650
OZ 369 from Seoul to Guangzhou, 18/0840-1130
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 08:25:53 PM »
If the teams are being sent on flights into Taipei, and there aren't direct flights from there into Guangzhou, then that is how production is managing the Racers to get Phil, Bert, and Elise in ahead of the teams. (Especially if there is a direct flight out of LAX that the trinity can use that the Racers weren't allowed to use.)
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 08:39:30 PM »
China So #328 dep 1030PM 11/16 is one flight per Chateau.

Racers were lined up at EVa air...can we see the connections via Taipei??

Timeframe? It is currently 640PM in LA.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 08:42:10 PM »
^ Read the thread :funny:
Know you're busy today love!

Agree with Schnauzers; Production probably on the 10.30pm direct flight (arriving 5.40am), and I'm thinking the teams go via Taipei (arriving 10.15am) and Seoul (arriving 11.30am).

Assuming the first sightings were of the teams at Eva, that'd make it the earlier flight available to the teams. That makes Hong Kong less likely. Going through Beijing means customs has to be cleared in two separate cities for the two itineraries, so I'm less inclined to bank on it too.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 08:45:46 PM »


Two direct flights from LAX Same flight, most likely production~
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 08:50:58 PM »
As Airlinesguy pointed out on the Speculation thread, they're the same flight on code-share.
(Double the price for the same flight! Delta must be making a killing!)
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2013, 09:16:13 PM »
Sorry Neobie. I couldn't understand your itinerary... and yes, up to my eyeballs!! :lol:

The flight I posted via Chateau is apparently confirmed. Could you just do ONE flight on EVA that gets in close to that one please? Thanks!!
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2013, 09:18:58 PM »
LAX TO TAIPEI - same as Neobie

FIRST FLIGHT
22:45 LOS ANGELES (Terminal B)
05:30 TAIPEI (Terminal 2)

SECOND FLIGHT
23:25 LOS ANGELES (Terminal B)
06:10 TAIPEI  (Terminal 2)

2 flights from Eva out of LAX tonight, enough to host all 11 (or 12?) teams. And they will get connection from Taipei to Guangzhou... hang on.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2013, 09:23:31 PM »
TAIPEI TO GUANGZHOU

BR 707
EVA Air 8:10 AM
* GETS IN AT 10:15 AM

The rest are only scheduled at as late as 2.15pm~

Unless they are rotting for almost 10 hours at the airport (unlikely??)

China Southern Airlines 4801 / China Airlines 521
2:15 PM - Mon Nov-18-2013
4:15 PM - Mon Nov-18-2013

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2013, 09:23:56 PM »
Same information as Jobby.

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BR 15 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 16/2245-18/0530
BR 1 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 16/2325-18/0610
BR 707 from Taipei to Guangzhou, 18/0810-1015

Either one for the first leg from Los Angeles to Taipei, but both connect to the same second leg onwards to Guangzhou, arriving four-and-a-half hours later than the direct flight.

The first flight arrives early though; maybe they'd be held at the airport upon arrival by TPTB?
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2013, 09:26:24 PM »
Not usually held back.

Current Time
Sunday, November 17, 2013 at 11:24:20 AM CST  So +11 hours for me.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2013, 09:29:56 PM »
Slightly off-topic:
If I didn't just start my new job I'd be on a flight right now to Guangzhou that arrives before even the direct flight! (It's not even that expensive.)
Let's try to figure out where they'd be next weekend (hopefully still this corner of the world) and I'd be there...
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2013, 10:47:22 PM »
The flights at the counter that I noticed were BR15 and CX883.

BR 15 LAX-TPE 2245-0530+2
CX 883 LAX-HKG 2020-0540+2

So From Taipei presumably

BR 707 TPE-CAN 0810-1015

From Hong Kong

CX 6782 HLG-CAN 0800-0855

So Hong Kong Flight should get in an hour and 20 minutes ahead of Taipei

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 06:37:23 AM »
The flights at the counter that I noticed were BR15 and CX883.

BR 15 LAX-TPE 2245-0530+2
CX 883 LAX-HKG 2020-0540+2

So From Taipei presumably

BR 707 TPE-CAN 0810-1015

From Hong Kong

CX 6782 HLG-CAN 0800-0855

So Hong Kong Flight should get in an hour and 20 minutes ahead of Taipei

As of 8:33 GMT + 8,


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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 07:11:45 AM »
For those interested to track flights in real-time, Flightradar24 is a good site.

Currently I'm following EVA Air Flight 15 enroute from LAX-TPE where some of the racers are on-board.   :)

EVA 15: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/br15/ (B-16708)

CATHAY 883: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cx883/ (B-KPW)

It is to be noted there may not be coverage over some areas and the tag above would show "PLAYBACK" instead of "LIVE".
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 09:34:42 AM »
Slightly off-topic:
If I didn't just start my new job I'd be on a flight right now to Guangzhou that arrives before even the direct flight! (It's not even that expensive.)
Let's try to figure out where they'd be next weekend (hopefully still this corner of the world) and I'd be there...

Me too! It's only 4 hours away from Singapore! :lol:

The flights at the counter that I noticed were BR15 and CX883.

BR 15 LAX-TPE 2245-0530+2
CX 883 LAX-HKG 2020-0540+2

So From Taipei presumably

BR 707 TPE-CAN 0810-1015

From Hong Kong

CX 6782 HLG-CAN 0800-0855

So Hong Kong Flight should get in an hour and 20 minutes ahead of Taipei

Usually the first leg flights are fixed right? Any chance they might get into Guangzhou on afternoon flights?
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 12:36:03 PM »
No because the only flights from Hong Kong to Guangzhou are the morning one

CX 6782 0800-0855

or evening ones

CZ 634 1840-1950
CX 6786 2020-2120.

Taipei has two afternoon flights to Guangzhou

CI 521 1415-1615
CZ 3098 1430-1635

but the morning flight

BR 707 0810-1015

makes much more sense, schedule wise to have daylight while filming, and airline wise as they share the same airline as well as matching closely with the other Hong Kong Flight.

So the presumed flights earlier should be the correct flights.

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2013, 12:47:40 PM »
The flights at the counter that I noticed were BR15 and CX883.

So everything is clear, here are the speculated flights...

First Flight Via Hong Kong

CX 883 LAX-HKG 2020-0600+2
CX 6782 HLG-CAN 0800-0855

Second Flight Via Taipei

BR 15 LAX-TPE 2245-0530+2
BR 707 TPE-CAN 0810-1015

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2013, 03:00:54 PM »
Eva Air flight 15 has just landed in Taipei

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The Cathay Pacific flight has 45 mins left till it lands in Hong Kong :D

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2013, 03:49:47 PM »
What times (EST and/or Guangzhou time) are the two flights scheduled to arrive in Guangzhou?

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2013, 03:51:30 PM »
1st flight delayed

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2013, 04:42:36 PM »
What times (EST and/or Guangzhou time) are the two flights scheduled to arrive in Guangzhou?

8:55 AM and 10:15 AM in Guangzhou

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2013, 04:48:00 PM »
1st flight delayed

Yes, but they still have about an hour and a half to make the connection, and both are in Terminal 1, so they should be fine.

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2013, 05:29:38 PM »
Based on Chengmd's sighting of the teams at Taipei, we can confirm:

Later flight via Taipei
Luke/Margie
Caroline/Jennifer
Brendon/Rachel
Herbert/Nathaniel

Natalie/Nadiya were seen at the Cathay counter, so it's more likely they made it on the earlier flight.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2013, 09:28:55 AM »
Compiling Weihen's information with that provided by Surblue, Jacker4s, 331449773, and 火柴in天堂 on Baidu, the transport for this leg:

From Los Angeles to Guangzhou
CX 883 from Los Angeles to Hong Kong, 2220-0600
KA 782 from Hong Kong to Guangzhou, 0800-0855 (actual arrival 0857)
Natalie/Nadiya, Leo/Jamal, Dave/Connor, Jet/Cord
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BR 15 from Los Angeles to Taipei, 2245-0530
BR 707 from Taipei to Guangzhou, 0810-1015 (actual arrival 1019)
Joey/Meghan, Luke/Margie, Brendon/Rachel, Mark/Mallory, Herbert/Nathaniel, Jessica/John, Jennifer/Caroline

From Baiyun Intl Airport to Jiangnan N Ave
Taxi: Natalie/Nadiya, Leo/Jamal, Dave/Connor
Metro: Jet/Cord (overtaking Natalie/Nadiya, Leo/Jamal, Dave/Connor)
Taxi: Jessica/John, Jennifer/Caroline, Joey/Meghan
Metro: Brendon/Rachel, Mark/Mallory, Herbert/Nathaniel, Luke/Margie (overtaking Jessica/John, Jennifer/Caroline, Joey/Meghan)

Misdirected (with honest intentions) from Jiangnan N Ave to Changgang
Taxi: Natalie/Nadiya, Leo/Jamal (fall behind Brendon/Rachel, Mark/Mallory, Herbert/Nathaniel, Luke/Margie)

From Jiangnan N Ave to Canton Tower
?: Jet/Cord
Metro: Dave/Connor, Brendon/Rachel, Herbert/Nathaniel, Mark/Mallory, Margie/Luke
?: Jessica/John, Joey/Meghan, Natalie/Nadiya, Jennifer/Caroline, Leo/Jamal

From Canton Tower to Haixinsha (updated, thanks Weihen!)
Taxi: Jet/Cord, Brendon/Rachel, Leo/Jamal
Metro: Dave/Connor, Luke/Margie (overtaking Leo/Jamal)
Taxi: Mark/Mallory, Herbert/Nathaniel, Jessica/John, Jennifer/Caroline
Metro: Joey/Meghan
Taxi: Natalie/Nadiya

From Haixinsha to Huacheng Square
Walk/taxi?
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2013, 09:34:45 AM »
All teams took taxi to Haixinsha except Margie/Luke,Dave/Connor,Joey/Meghan.

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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2013, 04:11:01 PM »
So Sabah means Kota Kinabalu airport. Looks like the only direct flight they missed and all teams will funnel via KL.
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2013, 04:15:32 PM »
The first flight to KL is I think:
MH 9097   
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« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2013, 04:18:49 PM »
The first flight to KL is I think:
MH 9097   
Malaysia Airlines    8:25 AM
Yeah, there's 2 (correct me if wrong) leaving at 8:25, one getting in 1.5 hour later.

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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2013, 04:27:06 PM »
8:25 am→12:25 pm Guangzhou - Kuala Lumpur China Southern 349
1:20 pm→3:55 pm Kuala Lumpur - Kota Kinabalu AirAsia 5114

seem to be the fastest from what i've found...

but oh the crappy site i've found didn't show the korean ones
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2013, 04:28:03 PM »
These are the flights I see from Guangzhou to Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia:

Malaysia Air 9097/2616    leaves 8:25 AM arrives 4:40 PM
Korean Air 842/673     leaves 9:35 AM arrives 11:00 PM
Korean Air 790/673     leaves 10:45 AM arrives 11:00 PM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are better flights (or faster arrivals for the Korean Air flights through South Korea).

It's currently 6:25 AM in Guangzhou.

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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2013, 04:30:42 PM »
Much better connections via KL and also HONG Kong

All flights to KL:
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2013, 04:33:43 PM »
10:05 am
   

   
1:05 pm
   
AirAsia 1542

Hong Kong to Kota Kinabalu if they could get there to catch that one...
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2013, 04:35:36 PM »
Flights KL>>Kota. MIGHT just catch the earlier highlighted one if they are lucky.
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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2013, 04:44:22 PM »
Earliest FLIGHT is this one, not sure if teams are allowed to fly DragonAir. Remember ferry to HK might actually be quicker but prob they are told to fly.
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2013, 04:47:07 PM »
HK>KOTA
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2013, 04:49:09 PM »
So via HK faster by 45 min? Interesting to see if anyone gets this one...
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2013, 04:49:42 PM »
Anybody have friends in Kota?? :funny:
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2013, 05:09:26 PM »
Sorry guys, we might have the timeframe wrong!

Teams left earlier than expected, and are all expected by Soledad_TAR on Baidu to be on:
AK 1531 from Guangzhou to Kota Kinabalu, 20/0255-0605

That means they have already arrived in Sabah.
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« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2013, 05:16:12 PM »
Thanks Neobie. Ignore my flights.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2013, 05:24:20 PM »
One thing that confuses me much is though, people at like 5 AM saying, they're taking taxis to the airport, and now like, they're already in Malaysia? lol
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« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2013, 05:37:13 PM »
That's because many people assumed Jason's posts on Sucks to be real-time, but actually most of his information for the second leg (and onwards) comes second-hand from Baidu. The original postings for the teams at the airport were made around 1am, and Jason only moved the information to Sucks at 5.39am.

This also means that I had miscalculated, and this was an uncharacteristically short Pit Stop. Huh?
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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2013, 05:41:55 PM »
That's because many people assumed Jason's posts on Sucks to be real-time, but actually most of his information for the second leg (and onwards) comes second-hand from Baidu. The original postings for the teams at the airport were made around 1am, and Jason only moved the information to Sucks at 5.39am.

This also means that I had miscalculated, and this was an uncharacteristically short Pit Stop. Huh?

Oh that makes sense, and for the pit stop well they might have considered giving them airplane time to sleep too...

And hmmm this still makes great disadvantage on the late teams if there wasn't enough seats for all of them...
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2013, 05:45:53 PM »
That's because many people assumed Jason's posts on Sucks to be real-time, but actually most of his information for the second leg (and onwards) comes second-hand from Baidu. The original postings for the teams at the airport were made around 1am, and Jason only moved the information to Sucks at 5.39am.

This also means that I had miscalculated, and this was an uncharacteristically short Pit Stop. Huh?

Oh that makes sense, and for the pit stop well they might have considered giving them airplane time to sleep too...

And hmmm this still makes great disadvantage on the late teams if there wasn't enough seats for all of them...

If they missed the flight they'd arrive at 3pm: a 9-hour disadvantage! So I'm pretty sure production did what they could to put teams on the same flight.
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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »
Or they just can invoke an HoO to equalize everybody.
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« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2013, 06:35:08 PM »
Anybody have friends in Kota Kinabalu?? :funny:


This is like less than 2hours flight from my home...   :crybabe:

I think I have a close friend there but I can't contact him since he is presenting his final thesis today for his Master degree... :(

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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2013, 06:46:25 PM »
Anybody have friends in Kota Kinabalu?? :funny:


This is like less than 2hours flight from my home...   :crybabe:

I think I have a close friend there but I can't contact him since he is presenting his final thesis today for his Master degree... :(

Sure, a Master's Degree will provide benefits for the rest of his life, but how often to you get to track TAR in person?

Tell him to get his priorities in order.

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« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2013, 10:57:47 PM »
LOVE this. ^^^ :funny:
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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2013, 09:27:43 AM »

I can't fly there either... There's no direct flight from BPN to Kota kinabalu, even though we're at the same island, it must connect in Tarakan or KLI , and it's not cheap :(

See...this is why we need to boost our ASEAN Economic Community, so that we can connect to every ASEAN locations without limit (just like Europe)..

Anyway, moving on again to transport.. :js:
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2013, 12:55:33 AM »
Possible transportation if leg 4 will be in Qatar:



Looks very possible.

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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2013, 01:31:56 AM »
Only one flight doesn't leave Phil any room though.

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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2013, 01:35:30 AM »
A somewhat more "obscure" routing.........

Kota to Brunei
BI 826   6:05 pm -- 6:45pm

Brunei to Dubai
BI 97     8:55 -- 1:40am

Dubai to Qatar
EK 847  2:15am -- 2:25am
FZ 11    2:20am -- 2:25am
QR 1003  5:30 am -- 5:40am

The first two connections from Dubai to Qatar are pretty short. Since I have no personal knowledge of the airport, I have no idea if they are possible at that time of the day. Still, the QR connection arrives about daybreak, which TPTB like to use for filming.

This route keeps teams out of Singapore and KL airports and might keep teams "hidden" from a lot of race spoilers. It is just one of a few possibilities.
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2013, 02:28:43 AM »
Dr Rox, what  if Qatar is a connecting point, and not the destination? We've had that before, and if the discussion about a 30 hour rest period after the second leg is accurate that may well point to a long travel period after that. And the live sighting info implying a short or no rest period after leg 3 also gives credence to such a possibility.
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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2013, 05:24:23 AM »
All Peach mentioned was Qatar......so I looked at flights to get to Qatar. Hell maybe they are going to the ISS. Heck if I know. I get no secret info.

FWIW, it seems way to early to fly out of Central or East Asia. Just 3 legs so far.

As Peach has posted, the twitter person that posted about Qatar, confessed he was asked to misdirect by production.
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« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2013, 11:26:24 AM »
Looks like teams were on one or all of these flights from Kota to Kuala Lumpur...

AK 5121 AirAsia                  22:45 23:09    T-L    Landed Late 24 min
AK 5119 AirAsia                  22:05 23:07    T-L    Landed Late 62 min
MH 2631 Malaysia Airlines        21:30 21:41    T-M    Landed On-time
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« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2013, 11:53:30 AM »
Teams were seen at the gate in Kota Kinabalu's low-cost terminal between 5.54pm (sunset) and 6.34pm (upload time). This means they were on one of these three flights:

AK 5133 from Kota Kinabalu to Kuala Lumpur, 1830-2100
AK 5117 from Kota Kinabalu to Kuala Lumpur, 1835-2105
AK 4119 from Kota Kinabalu to Kuala Lumpur, 1935-2205

Dave/Connor and Jet/Cord were seen at the same terminal at around 10.55am. There were about five Air Asia flights they could have taken before the main group, and a couple more on Malaysian Airlines from another terminal.

That's a massive time gap! What happened in Leg 3?
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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2013, 11:58:37 AM »
It looked from the photos......they were in different terminal. Cowboys group were in a two story terminal and Luke group was in single story terminal.
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« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2013, 06:22:22 PM »
Sri Lankan Airlines Flight 581
Scheduled - arrives in 5 hours 54 mins
CMB   
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Departed Colombo, today
Times   Terminal   Gate
1:20 AM   -   -
Arrives Rome, today
Scheduled 7:15 AM   Terminal   Gate
7:14 AM   3

If they come from Sri Lanka..
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« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2013, 12:15:49 AM »
IF they are coming from Colombo (note the IF), that flight has just arrived. Be alert everyone!!

CMB Colombo UL 581 
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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2013, 02:27:35 AM »
okay...

How are we getting from Rome to Seville?
 
Trains not looking promising....

I am thinking a rolling pitstop?? Ferry  Rome / Civitavecchia>>Barcelona takes about 19 hours , cabins available.

Checking one week ahead gave me this:



FERRY from  Rome / Civitavecchia>>Barcelona


Vessel Departure Arrival
MV Cruise Roma 07/12/2013 22:15 08/12/2013 18:15
 
 PASSENGERS
Accommodation type : PULLMAN SEAT
n° adults : 1 € 65,00
Accommodation type : PULLMAN SEAT
n° adults : 1 € 65,00
PARTIAL AMOUNT: € 130,00
 
TOTAL AMOUNT : € 130,00
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Then easy flight or train to Seville. Eats up some time giving Phil a chance to get ahead.
 
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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2013, 02:53:38 AM »
Ferry through the Mediterranean seems most likely.
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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2013, 11:15:56 AM »
How long would the ferry take?  There is someone who tweeted they are on day two of a cruise from Rome to Seville and I tweeted them to ask about any TAR teams, but it would seem unlikely to me they were on an actual cruise.  The person who said they would be working with TAR in the centre of Seville said they would be doing it for two days (Monday & Tuesday)...this makes me think Phil would arrive today and contestants tomorrow?

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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2013, 11:22:38 AM »
Ferry takes 19 hours to Barcelona, much longer if they go onwards.
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2013, 02:42:40 PM »
There is probably a train connection from Barcelona to Sevilla along the coast. I've been in Salou a few times which is near Barcelona and there was a train route then. Are flights a no go?
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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2013, 03:13:40 PM »
High speed trains are available from Barcelona to Seville via Madrid. Travel time is 5 to 5.5 hours.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2013, 03:07:57 AM »
Paris to Las Vegas flights (dated December 6):

These destinations are connected through major American airports:

DL185 from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to New York-JFK: 1037-1305 (scheduled 1040-1324)
DL454 from New York-JFK to Las Vegas: 1458-1814 (scheduled 1459-1756)

AA63 from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to Miami: 0955-1326 (scheduled 1000-1435; an earliest actual arrival)
AA2207 from Miami to Las Vegas: 1724-1956 (scheduled 1615-1850)

AF636 from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to Houston-Intercontinental: 1113-1459 (scheduled 1030-1415)
UA254 from Houston-Intercontinental to Las Vegas: 1823-1952 (scheduled 1613-1741; two hours delayed due to a severe snow in Dallas)
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« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2013, 07:31:39 AM »
Paris to Las Vegas flights (dated December 6):



AF636 from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to Houston-Intercontinental: 1113-1459 (scheduled 1030-1415)
UA254 from Houston-Intercontinental to Las Vegas: 1823-1952 (scheduled 1413-1741; two hours delayed due to a severe snow in Dallas)

This itinerary makes no sense. Why would snow in Dallas affect a direct flight from Houston to Vegas? You could never book a flight with a connection as the original schedule. You cannot book a flight that takes off 2 minutes before you arrive. Flight delays in Houston are because of weather conditions in Houston, not Dallas.

More sensible flight connections are Paris to either London, Montreal or Toronto......then to Vegas. That keeps the connecting airport out of the US. 
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« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2013, 10:04:06 AM »
Sorry for this Dr. Rox, I corrected the scheduled time for UA254 flight from Houston to Vegas was 4:13 pm/16:13 not 14:13. See actual flight time in post above.

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« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2013, 10:36:38 AM »
Sorry for this Dr. Rox, I corrected the scheduled time for UA254 flight from Houston to Vegas was 4:13 pm/16:13 not 14:13. See actual flight time in post above.

Where did the "snow in Dallas" come from. I live in Dallas and we had almost NO snow, maybe 1/10 of an inch. We did have about 2 inches of freezing rain and sleet. The ground was very cold and when the rain hits it.......it freezes instantly. People are ice skating and playing hockey in the streets. DFW airport now has 3 runways in operation out of the normal 7. We expect about 7 hours today above freezing, so a lot of this mess should disappear today. To show you how cold the ground was.....my driveway is on a hill and it has about an inch of ice on it. It was so cold the rain didn't have time to run down the hill. We did get a Lufthanza jet stuck on a taxiway.....the pilot cut a corner a little short in the whiteout conditions and got some wheels stuck off the concrete.
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« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2013, 03:46:32 PM »
The plane being used for a flight from Houston might have been stranded in Dallas because of the icing conditions. The flight number for that plane out of Dallas can be different from the flight number out of Houston. So with all the problematic weather issues across the country, there would have been a domino effect with flights because the plans weren't able to be in the right place at the right time, and it could take days for the airlines to get all their planes positioned in the right places for resuming a fully normal flight schedule.
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« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2013, 04:45:09 AM »
The plane being used for a flight from Houston might have been stranded in Dallas because of the icing conditions. The flight number for that plane out of Dallas can be different from the flight number out of Houston. So with all the problematic weather issues across the country, there would have been a domino effect with flights because the plans weren't able to be in the right place at the right time, and it could take days for the airlines to get all their planes positioned in the right places for resuming a fully normal flight schedule.

Certainly in these big weather events, planes do get scattered. Dallas only has one arrival and one departure a day from Houston on United Airlines. Flight Stats shows the 6 am departure from Dallas to Houston on Dec 6 to have been cancelled. Most domestic airlines, except American, got all their planes out of DFW on Dec 5 to avoid the ice.
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« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2013, 10:02:58 AM »
With the exception of Hawaii and Alaska (and not for a while), Race does not schedule flights to the finale that connect through the US, mainly to keep sightings of the final three to a minimum. Second to last leg was in England not Paris. They flew from LHR direct to LV. Probably on Virgin, but there are plenty of other options.

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« Reply #75 on: December 09, 2013, 10:18:57 AM »
With the exception of Hawaii and Alaska (and not for a while), Race does not schedule flights to the finale that connect through the US, mainly to keep sightings of the final three to a minimum. Second to last leg was in England not Paris. They flew from LHR direct to LV. Probably on Virgin, but there are plenty of other options.

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« Reply #76 on: December 09, 2013, 01:56:31 PM »
The issue this time is that there was a bad windstorm over much of Europe at the time teams were finishing the last couple of European legs, and there would have been the same issues in transport as there was in the U.S. towards the end of last week with consecutive storms coming through.
With so little raw information from live sightings, this may not be resolved until the season has aired. (I'm not saying the teams didn't fly in from London into Las Vegas, I am saying it may not have been the original plan.)
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« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2013, 12:04:13 PM »
I was just looking at some possible flight itineraries from Paris to Las Vegas.

Paris to Montreal to Las Vegas.......
Not possible.

Paris to Toronto to Las Vegas
4 possible connections, but times do not seem to match arrival in Vegas as stated on here.

Paris to London to Las Vegas

1 connection through Gatwick, but arrives in Vegas too early to seem to match.

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« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2013, 12:13:30 PM »
There was a direct flight from Pairs into Las Vegas around the same time Peach posted in the live sightings.
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« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2013, 01:05:14 PM »
Remember please, spec goes into the SPEC thread.

The actual flight carrying racers was this one:

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« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2013, 09:23:52 PM »
There was a direct flight from Pairs into Las Vegas around the same time Peach posted in the live sightings.

Cool.......could you post the flight number, times, etc?
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2013, 10:02:41 PM »
There was a direct flight from Pairs into Las Vegas around the same time Peach posted in the live sightings.

Cool.......could you post the flight number, times, etc?

There's only one: XL Airways France has a direct flight from Paris to Las Vegas, it runs only during summer months between July and August, yearly.

Flight on Paris-Las Vegas: SE42, 1400-1615 (not available in December and winter time)
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« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2013, 01:34:24 AM »
Since the teams flew out of London, not Paris...it really doesn't matter, does it? :lol:
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2013, 07:47:57 PM »
There was a direct flight from Pairs into Las Vegas around the same time Peach posted in the live sightings.

Cool.......could you post the flight number, times, etc?

There's only one: XL Airways France has a direct flight from Paris to Las Vegas, it runs only during summer months between July and August, yearly.

Flight on Paris-Las Vegas: SE42, 1400-1615 (not available in December and winter time)

Thanks claude......It is just strange to me how a seasonal flight in the summer shows up in a winter search.....lol  I use two different flight data bases and neither showed any direct flights from Paris to Las Vegas.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2013, 12:11:52 AM »
Sequestered teams traveled Bangkok>>Seoul Dec 4

then Seoul>>>Vegas





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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2014, 07:53:07 AM »
Flights for Leg 3 (Note: it is all production-provided):

First flight - The first six teams boarded the non-stop flight to Kota Kinabalu as we posted in spoilers thread:
AK 1531 CAN-BKI, 0255 (11/21) - 0602 (11/21)

Second flight - Brendon & Rachel, Jessica & John and Joey & Meghan
AK 1017 CAN-KUL, 2108 (11/20) - 0118 (11/21) -> AK 5100 KUL-BKI, 0645 (11/21) - 0935 (11/21)
« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 07:58:07 AM by claude_24hrs »

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2014, 09:49:40 PM »
Leg 4 Flights (All Flights were on November 22, 2013)

First Flight: Dave & Connor, Jet & Cord, and Leo & Jamal
AK 5117 BKI-KUL 1835-2105 (Actually 1913-2150)

Second Flight: Margie & Luke and Flight Time & Big East
AK 5119 BKI-KUL 1935-2205 (Actually 2023-2307)

Third Flight: Caroline & Jennifer, Jessica & John, and Brendon & Rachel
AK 5121 BKI-KUL 2015-2245 (Actually 2026-2309)

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #87 on: March 16, 2014, 10:31:23 PM »
Burns me they had PROVIDED flights again.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #88 on: March 16, 2014, 10:33:06 PM »
Peach, it's possible that the provided flights were a result of the last minute leg(s) substitution and to get the filming back on track for leg 5.

The leg 5 preview sure implies that the flights next week are not provided.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #89 on: March 17, 2014, 01:34:10 PM »
You can still say you are limited to flights on (list airlines) and make them work to find their own flights. Our GAMES flight challenges are more difficult.  :gaah:

And I do not complain much, but last week's flight separation was ridiculous. If you MUST put teams on flights 3 hours apart for whatever reason, then at least make the largest # of teams on the last one. And then give them an hours of opp followed by a complex route info task that GIVES TEAMS A CHANCE. I have to agree completely with Meghan's comments in her exit interview here:

http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/interview-joey-meghan-talk-amazing-race-all-stars

So far, substitutions or not, not impressed. Taxis and flights on a silver platter, great fun. The only real transport challenge we have had so far was navigating the metro in Guangzhou.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2014, 01:35:27 PM »


The leg 5 preview sure implies that the flights next week are not provided.

They are provided if you go to the designated travel agency.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2014, 07:05:34 PM »
Agree with TheSchnauzers that the provided flights were probably because of the last minute leg switch-up... They probably also had to keep teams from arriving in Kuala Lumpur too early, before nightfall!

I give them a pass for keeping a travel agency open for the teams in KL. With no other agency open and the no-online-booking rules I don't know how else teams could have made it to Sri Lanka...
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2014, 07:32:51 AM »


The leg 5 preview sure implies that the flights next week are not provided.

They are provided if you go to the designated travel agency.
I HATE the fact that there are so many production-provided flights, but it's because the Malaysian legs weren't planned and they had to have provided flights to and from Malaysia. Hopefully, teams will HAVE TO FIND THEIR OWN FLIGHTS from Sri Lanka to Rome, and throughout the rest of the race. For the first HALF of the Race, teams have been provided flights

Leg 1 (Los Angeles to Guangzhou) Two provided flights (standard for Starting)
Leg 2 (Guangzhou) No travel, as teams stayed in Guangzhou
Leg 3 (Guangzhou to Sabah) Two provided flights
Leg 4 (Sabah to Kuala Lumpur) Three provided flights
Leg 5 (Kuala Lumpur to Colombo) Provided travel agency, still provided flights
Leg 6 (Colombo to Kandy) Teams most likely traveled by train.

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »


The leg 5 preview sure implies that the flights next week are not provided.

They are provided if you go to the designated travel agency.
I HATE the fact that there are so many production-provided flights, but it's because the Malaysian legs weren't planned and they had to have provided flights to and from Malaysia. Hopefully, teams will HAVE TO FIND THEIR OWN FLIGHTS from Sri Lanka to Rome, and throughout the rest of the race. For the first HALF of the Race, teams have been provided flights

This sucks, especially because the order would have changed. Teams would only be slightly less than an hour apart, and the bottom feeders may have had a chance, unless they were forced to take the 5:30pm Malaysian flight (which had a massive delay).




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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #94 on: March 25, 2014, 02:50:21 AM »
The flights for leg 5 seems to have been:
Flight 1:
  MI 341 KUL-SIN 21:40 - 22:25   (scheduled 21:40 - 22:35)
  SQ 468 SIN-CMB 22:59 - 00:02+1 (scheduled 23:05 - 00:15+1)


Flight 2:
  MH 179 KUL-CMB 00:29+1 - 01:28+1 (scheduled 23:05 - 23:59)

Flight 3:
  D7 180 KUL-CMB 10:47+1 - 11:34+1 (scheduled 09:20+1 - 10:10+1)

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #95 on: March 26, 2014, 02:03:43 AM »
And the trains from the Fort railway station in Colombo probably were:

Train #1
  Fort - Galle  06:55 - 09:19
This carries everybody but Margie and Luke.

Train #2
  Fort - Galle  14:25 - 16:31
Poor Margie & Luke are 7 hours behind at this point.

This 2.5 hour train ride seems to cost about Rs.65 (~1$).
« Last Edit: March 26, 2014, 02:08:30 AM by maf »

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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2014, 12:49:43 AM »
Well it was nice to see the train to Galle. It was completely demolished in the tsunami in about 75. New cars were really nice. The old train was pretty dilapidated.
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Re: TAR24 Transportation
« Reply #97 on: April 13, 2014, 08:55:30 PM »
Rome flights

UL581 from Colombo to Rome, 0120 (11/28) - 0711 (11/28) (scheduled 0120-0715) - direct flight



 

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