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Would another Family Edition ever work?
« on: October 23, 2013, 09:23:20 PM »
Or do you think it would be a bad idea no matter what?

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 09:27:58 PM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 09:43:55 PM »
Tbh season 8 was one of the first ones I watched back in AXN latinoamerica and it wasnt an alien concept to me so I really like it even though it was focus mostly on the US territory.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 10:07:09 PM »
The geographic limitation, plus the decision to lower the age of the kids from 15 to 8 is what messed that format up; it's telling that even the teams that season thought they'd be going to other continents and that wasn't the game plan.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »
Family of three, ten teams, travel out of the US. Yes.

Same format as TAR 8... no. :(


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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 10:28:53 PM »
Family of three, ten teams, travel out of the US. Yes.

Same format as TAR 8... no. :(

This is probably my ideal Family Edition. 10 teams of 3 that can travel outside the US. They don't necessarily have to completely go around the world, but most of it should be outside the US.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 12:02:41 AM »
Actually, I really enjoyed Season 8. I liked every aspect of it. I know, shocking right?

We see all around the world all the time, but seeing what America itself had to offer was a really nice change of pace. The increased emphasis on self-driving was nice as well. I liked having pre-teens and young teens on the show. I loved the four-person team set up. I thought the challenges were intriguing and interesting, and the locations were varied enough to keep my interest.

As long as there aren't too many repeat locations, I would give a big, resounding yes to an exact repeat of the TAR8 formula.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 12:54:19 AM »
Somewhere in the "Phil in the News" Thread, there's an interview with Phil and the other hosts who were nominated for the reality hosting Emmy (I think), where the interviewer asked them if there was something they wish their show hadn't done, and Phil said that he wished they hadn't done Family Edition (but that they were proud that they at least tried). He said the hardest part was having to eliminate the young children. :(

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 01:14:23 AM »
Family of three, ten teams, everyone above 16, travel out of the US. Yes.

Same format as TAR 8... no. :(

Add that new criteria in. :funny:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 02:53:02 AM »
I... don't think it might work. :(  :pity Although I'd be glad to watch another TAR Family Edition. :)


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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 10:49:15 AM »
The Family Edition's problems were IMO partly structural and partly self-inflicted (with a dash of bad luck tossed in).  With that many contestants running around, often not referred to individually by name, it's difficult to get to know em and relate in any way to them.  (I still can't name any of the Bransen sisters, and they finished the race!).   Also, so few teams relative to the number of legs led to a loooong time wandering around the west without an elimination. 

As to that route, TAR Canada showed me just how compelling a journey that never leaves a country could be, and such a route mostly in the USA should have been at least as interesting.  Instead we got the world's largest office chair and the a red Lodge Mountain Golgotha Course.

We'll not see another family edition.  But if the producers were for some reason determined to make it work: 
1.  Make it a completely separate "series"' like the international versions.  That might reduce unflattering comparisons with the original.  maybe a summer series, although Big Bother seems to claim much of the CBS summer timeslots.
2.  Spoilers be damned.  Pick the most interesting route, regardless of who might spot the racers along the way.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 04:01:25 PM »
The Family Edition's problems were IMO partly structural and partly self-inflicted (with a dash of bad luck tossed in).  With that many contestants running around, often not referred to individually by name, it's difficult to get to know em and relate in any way to them.  (I still can't name any of the Bransen sisters, and they finished the race!).   Also, so few teams relative to the number of legs led to a loooong time wandering around the west without an elimination.

I never notice that but you are right... I can name a few racers back of Family Edition, Bill, Billy, Carissa and Tammy Gaghan for example but I couldn't tell you the name of the Linz family or the Godwlesky family (I'm totally butchering that name btw)... I think you strike the point, too many people for the amount of air time....

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 06:11:41 AM »
The Family Edition's problems were IMO partly structural and partly self-inflicted (with a dash of bad luck tossed in).  With that many contestants running around, often not referred to individually by name, it's difficult to get to know em and relate in any way to them.  (I still can't name any of the Bransen sisters, and they finished the race!).   Also, so few teams relative to the number of legs led to a loooong time wandering around the west without an elimination.

I never notice that but you are right... I can name a few racers back of Family Edition, Bill, Billy, Carissa and Tammy Gaghan for example but I couldn't tell you the name of the Linz family or the Godwlesky family (I'm totally butchering that name btw)... I think you strike the point, too many people for the amount of air time....

Geez... you're right. I had to go to Wikipedia just to find out their names. :funny:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2013, 06:14:27 AM »
We'll not see another family edition.  But if the producers were for some reason determined to make it work: 
1.  Make it a completely separate "series"' like the international versions.  That might reduce unflattering comparisons with the original.  maybe a summer series, although Big Bother seems to claim much of the CBS summer timeslots.
2.  Spoilers be damned.  Pick the most interesting route, regardless of who might spot the racers along the way.

Hmmm... interesting. :umn: :hrt: :colors

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2013, 08:13:19 AM »
I actually really enjoyed TAR 8 very much!

I mean 1 out of 23 seasons where we didn't have that much of International travel, can't complain. The Americas is very interesting too!  :)

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 08:25:33 AM »
<3 USA, exactly!

Oh I remembered the names of the Weaver, Gaghan and Godlewski family... and of course MAMA PAOLO MARION AKA WHO WANTS TO GO TO PHEONIX ARIZONA. :funny:

I really don't think TAR 8 was that bad and winch whenever somebody complains about it. Maybe it was boring in USA but for the rest of the world, I got exposed to huge amounts of American culture and history, which was equally enriching and fun to watch.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2013, 10:28:26 AM »
<3 USA, exactly!

Oh I remembered the names of the Weaver, Gaghan and Godlewski family... and of course MAMA PAOLO MARION AKA WHO WANTS TO GO TO PHEONIX ARIZONA. :funny:

I really don't think TAR 8 was that bad and winch whenever somebody complains about it. Maybe it was boring in USA but for the rest of the world, I got exposed to huge amounts of American culture and history, which was equally enriching and fun to watch.

Have to agree when I gave it a second chance I really enjoyed it - Mama Paolo & Dj such stars!

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2013, 07:11:17 PM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2013, 05:43:33 PM »
Maybe a race across the US would work, but adding teens and children to the mix is asking for disaster (as in having to make everything easier and safer)
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2013, 06:25:02 PM »
Both BVM and Phil have ben quoted as saying no way.... :funny:
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2013, 06:32:39 PM »
Both BVM and Phil have ben quoted as saying no way.... :funny:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2013, 06:45:22 PM »
It was the legs in the midwest especially where I had to force myself to watch the whole hour.

If they did another, The Amazing Race Canada showed how a 1-country route CAN work...when it's done right. Maybe not a family-edition, though.

When I first heard it wasn't leaving the country, I will admit I thought "this is going to be as lame as Amazing Race 8", but it wasn't, it was far better. The challenges were tough, on par with and exceeding those on The Amazing Race (with teams of 2, of course) and the variety of landscapes and cultures was enough to keep it fresh and interesting the whole way through.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2013, 08:27:05 PM »
TAR Canada was awesome!

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2013, 08:48:01 PM »
Maybe bring foreign teams and do something like "America Rush"
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2013, 10:46:16 PM »
I think it unlikely, but it could work. No kids under 12 or maybe even 16. They could have visited more interesting places and had better challenges. Yall (southernism) are right I can mostly remember last names only, and not all of those. It was way too many people. More cultural and historical stuff would have been good, especially in the challenges.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2013, 02:24:14 PM »
I think a Family Edition would still work.  At the time, people were just so disgusted at a USA-only Race even though the Route was fine.  Other countries have done fine with in-country Races.
Plus, TAR8 still has one of the best casts.  Certainly tops most of the casts post-TARAS.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2013, 07:44:16 PM »
If they do it outside the US, maybe.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2013, 02:38:36 PM »
If every team has the same age, maybe it can work. I don't like a team with 20 years, other with 30 and the others with 14... We know this is a big difference between teams.

Travel around US is fine, but with some legs out US would be great too.
They can go to South America, Japan, Australia, some Europe countries like Portugal, Spain, UK..., and Canada.

I think a Family Edition every 10 International Seasons can work! xD
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2013, 02:49:56 PM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 07:10:14 PM »
How about just bring back TAR8's cast to run a regular Race. They'd be a much better group than most of the post-TARAS casts.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2013, 10:03:52 PM »
I think it could be fun.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2013, 10:09:35 AM »
I loved the Family Edition :hearts:

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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2013, 10:11:43 AM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2013, 10:57:47 AM »
I loved the Family Edition :hearts:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2013, 12:23:10 PM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2013, 01:35:28 PM »
Hugs Tammy!!
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2013, 01:18:28 PM »
Yes, with three family members instead of four, international travel and a red bean challange as a starting line elimination.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2013, 09:29:59 PM »
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2014, 03:53:35 AM »
I loved the Family Edition :hearts:

I loved it too! They definitely should ban red beans.

Tammy, do you think Billy and Carissa would be up for another race if they do another All-Stars? By the way, the Gaghans are one of my favourite teams in Amazing Race history.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2014, 05:12:33 AM »
Oh I'd rather watch another Family race than the current All-Stars we have. Season 8's was one if not the best casting the show had in 23 seasons.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2014, 07:31:35 AM »
Oh I'd rather watch another Family race than the current All-Stars we have. Season 8's was one if not the best casting the show had in 23 seasons.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2014, 04:27:47 AM »
Nope. Not at all.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2014, 06:27:08 AM »
As long as there is a fair amount of international travel then I am ok with another family version.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2014, 06:03:35 PM »
And if they can create another fabulous cast like the first Family Edition

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2014, 09:39:54 PM »
The Family Season wasn't what some hoped it would be, and I think there were several causes"

It limited itself to North America, and even the cast that season expected it would be a global race like the others that preceded it.

Because of that it was adversely impacted by a number of tropical cyclones throughout filming that season, and that didn't do anyone any favors. (Of course, that season had more tropical cyclones than any n the Atlantic, ever (28).

And I thought lowering the age limit down to 8 years of age really hampered the tasks, and the locations, and having teams of four didn't seem to help things either.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2014, 08:22:16 AM »
I'm actually very neutral towards another Family Edition. I liked the idea of it and was excited to watch the season, but I just.... expected something else and was kind of disappointed... :/ I guess I'd just rather see regular races with good casts and no hasty AS seasons like the one upcoming -.-

They can go to South America, Japan, Australia, some Europe countries like Portugal, Spain, London..., and Canada.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2014, 08:44:13 AM »
Channelling your inner Nick & Vicki :lol:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2014, 12:54:31 PM »
I'm actually very neutral towards another Family Edition. I liked the idea of it and was excited to watch the season, but I just.... expected something else and was kind of disappointed... :/ I guess I'd just rather see regular races with good casts and no hasty AS seasons like the one upcoming -.-

They can go to South America, Japan, Australia, some Europe countries like Portugal, Spain, London..., and Canada.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2014, 01:22:58 PM »

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2014, 02:33:54 AM »

 :knuckles:  HUSH!  We do not speak of "The TAR Season That Is Never Mentioned".   (:;) Nuff said.   :lala

TAR8 is actually a good season? It's seriously gold right now, the casting was great, the tasks were pretty good, and it was/is basically TAR:All Around America. It holds up MUCH better now.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2014, 04:06:47 AM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2014, 04:32:19 AM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers.

I liked the beans and the Spy task and some others :P

The Weavers though <3

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2014, 09:35:46 AM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers. the whole cast in general

How could you forget Paolos, Linzes, Godlewskis, and Gaghans? They were all starts <33333 This season had one of the best casts ever TBH.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2014, 03:43:57 PM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers. the whole cast in general

How could you forget Paolos, Linzes, Godlewskis, and Gaghans? They were all starts <33333 This season had one of the best casts ever TBH.

Weavers +Paolos then, but the majority of the rest was people arguing with the Weavers :P

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2014, 10:08:15 PM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers. the whole cast in general

How could you forget Paolos, Linzes, Godlewskis, and Gaghans? They were all starts <33333 This season had one of the best casts ever TBH.

Weavers +Paolos then, but the majority of the rest was people arguing with the Weavers :P

Um Gaghans were separate and amazing and Godlewskis had problems with themselves that made them fab and entertaining, this leaves the Linzes which I will say are derived from Weaver hate.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2014, 01:42:06 AM »
TAR8 tasks sucked and 99% of the entertainment was derived because of the Weavers. the whole cast in general

How could you forget Paolos, Linzes, Godlewskis, and Gaghans? They were all starts <33333 This season had one of the best casts ever TBH.

Weavers +Paolos then, but the majority of the rest was people arguing with the Weavers :P

Um Gaghans were separate and amazing and Godlewskis had problems with themselves that made them fab and entertaining, this leaves the Linzes which I will say are derived from Weaver hate.

Gaghans were fab but they got eliminated before the pathetically boring part so they don't count and I found the Linzes more entertaining than the Godlewskis :X

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2014, 02:00:57 PM »
If you asked me after the 1st All-Stars, I would have said yes, but having the regular format with only family teams. At that time, family teams often did very poorly.

But now, I would have to say no.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2014, 01:09:56 PM »
I would love to see the kids race as adults now :funny:

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2014, 02:26:01 PM »
Billy and Carissa would be an Amazing team!! That would be fun, Tammy. Might have to wait a few more years on Carissa though? I am still in shock she is off to college!!
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2014, 07:13:42 PM »
I think another Family Edition could work if they used returning teams:colors

Returning teams as in siblings/father-daughter/mother-daughter/etc. but with 2 more family members. That way each family could be likable as they have 2 family members we have already come to love!

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #61 on: September 05, 2014, 01:45:47 PM »
I'm kind of late to the party, but I could see it working if they tweaked the format a little bit.

Instead of four-player teams, keep it to two-player. And while I liked the idea of the younger kids racing, perhaps the age limit could still be lowered. Not to pre-teen years, but 16/17 at the least. That way they could still do some of the challenges and could do a little more. It seemed as though the later challenges in the season weren't child-friendly.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #62 on: September 05, 2014, 04:20:54 PM »
I love the idea of a sorta "Family Edition" again with some tweaks.

Stick to the basic TAR format, teams of two.

There are tons of family combos we have not/or only rarely seen.

InLaw variations
Aunts Or Uncles +Nieces or Nephews
Parent/Child (always good)
Adoptive Siblings
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Married Couples w/some sort of interesting story

The variations are endless, so a season made of family members would be fine by me!
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2014, 09:53:38 PM »
Aunts Or Uncles +Nieces or Nephews
Adoptive Siblings
Cousins

I wouldn't mind teams like these. Gives things a little flavor, and it's as stale as your usual "parent/sibling" or "married couple" teams. No offense to them, obviously...
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2016, 03:27:00 AM »
Just bumping this old thread to see if anyone has any new opinions.

I still think a Family Edition would work, either the regular format with 11 pairs of racers, or a revised version of the 8th season: teams of 3 so that we don't have such a large cast, and an age limit of 13-15+ for more difficult challenges and possibly more international travel.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2016, 04:05:47 AM »
I'd think to see another Family Edition! Here are my reqiurements:

10 teams of four (2 parent racer and 2 child racers)
Age limit of 13+
Harder tasks
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INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL!

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2016, 04:06:27 AM »
Cast six families of 4, make them think it's the same format as TAR8.  But then at the Starting Line, shock the families by forcing them to split up into teams of 2, a total of 12 teams.

Yes? No?

But during the Race, use voting U-Turns or Intersections and Double Battles/Face Offs to try and break up possible family alliances that may form and to ensure that final 4 or 3 are all different families.  It'll be bad if two of the final 3 spots are one family, worse if the final 4 are only two families, you know? lol

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2016, 04:25:02 AM »
Cast six families of 4, make them think it's the same format as TAR8.  But then at the Starting Line, shock the families by forcing them to split up into teams of 2, a total of 12 teams.
I'm sorry, but sounds like a TERRIBLE idea! If u have kids in the families, how r u going to going to split them up? I don't think this would work and if it did, It wouldn't be received well by the home viewers.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2016, 07:30:21 AM »
It would work if only there were 2 racers.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2016, 11:31:00 AM »
I'd think to see another Family Edition! Here are my reqiurements:

10 teams of four (2 parent racer and 2 child racers)
Age limit of 13+
Harder tasks
and...

INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL!

That was the problem. Having kids as young as 8 kinda forced them to water down the tasks and destinations.

Something like, say, flying 10 hours to carry heavy things through the streets of Bangladesh (theoretical scenario., not an actual reference) would take too much of a physical toll on them - hence the confinement to North America. Most tasks on The Amazing Race aren't for kids.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2016, 02:07:45 PM »
I'd think to see another Family Edition! Here are my reqiurements:

10 teams of four (2 parent racer and 2 child racers)
Age limit of 13+
Harder tasks
and...

INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL!

I would actually like this to happen! Not many international destinations was the problem last time

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2016, 05:30:43 PM »
By international destinations, I don't mean like going RTW. Just going around North, South and Central America would be fine. The Caribbean would also be  :colors

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2016, 09:42:55 PM »
Something that I thought was a bit unfair in the 8th season was having some teams of adults and some teams with a mix of adults and kids/teens.

I think, if there was another Family Edition, it would have to be teams of four: two adults, two teens, or teams of three: two adults, one teen/ one adult, two teens. I think the age limit should be 13+.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2016, 09:53:24 PM »
It would have to be teams of four or teams of three

Bad idea. You either need teams of four or teams of three. It won't work with both.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2016, 11:47:21 PM »
It would have to be teams of four or teams of three

Bad idea. You either need teams of four or teams of three. It won't work with both.

Yes, that's what I meant: either 10 teams of four OR 10 teams of three.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2016, 11:08:26 AM »
I think production made a couple of mistakes - 1. too many teams & 2. too many legs. 40 people is a lot of new characters you have to introduce in a few episodes...should've been 8-9 teams. Also, 13 legs (not counting "to be continued" as one leg) was too long and should've been condescend to 10 legs as the 2nd half dragged on too long.

The 1st half of Family Edition was okay, especially when traveling out of the country. I think production played it too safe with the tasks. The season does have heart which is more than you can say about a lot of post-TAR 13 seasons.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2016, 12:26:18 AM »
A Family Edition would work only if they kept it as a casting restriction like S26. Just make a regular season in which all teams are family and that's it. No need for extra large teams or younger contestants.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2016, 11:59:32 AM »
That was the problem. Having kids as young as 8 kinda forced them to water down the tasks and destinations.

You had... What was it, a fighter jet? I know that was a Roadblock, but come on. It wasn't catering to the children.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2016, 01:53:31 PM »
There were though. A lot of the early episodes had tasks mostly that were geared towards children. Like the climbing task in ep. 4 was a Roadblock but it aired as miscellaneous task.

That was the problem. Having kids as young as 8 kinda forced them to water down the tasks and destinations.

You had... What was it, a fighter jet? I know that was a Roadblock, but come on. It wasn't catering to the children.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2016, 06:34:28 PM »
There were though. A lot of the early episodes had tasks mostly that were geared towards children. Like the climbing task in ep. 4 was a Roadblock but it aired as miscellaneous task.

You said it - "early episodes". That's what my point was, pretty much. You could tell that some of the tasks were designed for an older child or an adult in the late legs.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2016, 10:23:41 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing kids in the show again, if the same format were to happen in future. Most of us were even rooting for them!

IIRC, the main problem with TAR8 was the lack of international travel, which I don't mind because I don't live in the US.

For my personal preferences though, there were too many NEL's towards the end of the race (which TAR is no longer overdoing), and there were so many linear legs from what I noticed. The Gaghans got lost on Leg 2, and they were never able to get to the top of the pack until the leg with the flight.

I don't remember when, but I voted for "Yes, but a different format to the 8th season." If a lot of people didn't like TAR8's format, why bother make another one? We'd just lose viewers. :( TAR has been creating themed seasons lately. Some might like them, some might not, but what matters at the end of the day is TAR still having enough fans to watch the show. :hrt: I hope TAR will still live longer than I am expecting it to.

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2016, 03:11:43 PM »
But remember Platrium, the reason why TAR hasn't had another Family Edition season was because they had kids way too young of age. Maybe they need to be 13+

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2016, 06:27:54 PM »
But remember Platrium, the reason why TAR hasn't had another Family Edition season was because they had kids way too young of age. Maybe they need to be 13+

And how did you come to that conclusion? You have some evidence?
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2016, 07:31:33 PM »
If a lot of people didn't like TAR8's format, why bother make another one?

Twists are redone in Survivor and Big Brother. I'm sure TAR's TPTB could reuse a concept and make it work. All they'd have to do is maintain their minimum age and get a wide variety of blood relations.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2016, 11:15:49 PM »
Well, TAR Family edition costed too much on transportation and accomodation fee, even in USA... And it would have  been bigger if they had traveled overseas....

And fans prefer regular format team rather family format team to see how relationship drama play...
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2016, 04:32:27 PM »
And fans prefer regular format team rather family format team to see how relationship drama play...

How many of those fans liked the all-dating season? That wasn't a "regular format"...
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2016, 10:51:15 PM »
And fans prefer regular format team rather family format team to see how relationship drama play...

How many of those fans liked the all-dating season? That wasn't a "regular format"...

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2016, 11:17:58 PM »
But remember Platrium, the reason why TAR hasn't had another Family Edition season was because they had kids way too young of age. Maybe they need to be 13+

No way dude. The reason it wasn't tried again was because it was reviled by almost everybody when it aired.



Now, in my opinion the issues with FE was a combination of two changes to the regular formula, the first being the families, and the second being the US-centric route. Either one of those on their own probably wouldn't have been as problematic. Including young children, though, I don't think could ever have worked (sorry Gaghans/Blacks!). But (once again in my opinion) a large reason it failed was the poor timing. Seasons 5-7 was when the show's at its most popular and those seasons aired nearly back-to-back-to-back. Not only was it switching up the show at its prime, it actually was even a little oversaturated.

So could another Family Edition work? Maybe. Retroactively, it's a better gimmick than those of recent seasons as its focus derives from the very core of the show - dysfunctional trips. Would they ever attempt to make another? Not a chance.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2016, 11:27:30 PM »
No way dude. The reason it wasn't tried again was because it was reviled by almost everybody when it aired.

So in other words:
THEY HATED IT!

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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2018, 01:18:53 AM »
I really want another Family Edition to be honest, I would love it be the same format as TAR 8. The only changes I would make are:
1. Don't have too many Non-Eliminations at the end of the race, really this makes a season drag.
2. Have a more balanced cast. My favorite team from this season was the Gaghans, because they was the only team worth rooting for. This is what the fans wanted when they begged for this season to be made. Parents racing with their two young kids. If they ever want to do another Family Edition, EVERY team requirement will have to be two adults and two kids, to have it be more balanced.
3. I didn't mind the US-only route, what I did mind is what they decided to do in the US. Places like Washington DC, Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, New Orleans, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, were great places to visit in the US. Also some states should have been represented better, like you go to Salt Lake City, and not have the Pit Stop be at Temple Square, or go to Utah, and not visit the Great Salt Lake? The Roadblock in Montana should have been about The Battle of Little Bighorn instead of finding 4 colored golf balls. Also how awesome would it be to have Pit Stops at places like The Alamo, Mount Rushmore, Beale Street, and the Gateway Arch.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #90 on: October 27, 2018, 12:51:58 AM »
Another Family Edition can't really work because 99% of the audience wouldn't be on board with it.

"Hey, remember that season the critics mocked in interviews with Phil for the next ten years, Phil and Bertram both said they would never do again, and the audience frequently references it as the worst season of all time? . . .Well, we're gonna try it again!"

You'd have to call it something completely different. You brand it as "Family Edition" and you're pretty much screwed.

I think the biggest thing is you need to just not reserve FIVE NELs for the last eight legs of the season. Do it where you have nine teams and ten legs or something like that.

Furthermore have two of the members be 16 or younger. . .but then you have to water down the tasks and limit international travel.

So maybe you have everyone be 19+. . .but then isn't it just a regular season with bloated team sizes and everyone having a family dynamic?

There's just no way you can make it work given who watches TAR US and what they associate with Family Edition.

With that being said, TAR Canada could absolutely get away with a Family Edition. I mean, look at the past couple seasons. I have no idea why, but they get millions of viewers by doing nothing and creating no interesting storylines. Just let them do it and people seem to watch it no matter what. They're the only franchise I can think of who could pull this off with significant ratings.
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #91 on: October 27, 2018, 10:39:14 AM »
:amen:


 Except for the TAR Canada part.  :neener:
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2019, 08:32:22 AM »
It was not fair, some have little kids some have big strong dudes
if they gonna do it again it has to be all with teen kids mostly girls
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Re: Would another Family Edition ever work?
« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2019, 08:35:52 AM »
It was not fair, some have little kids some have big strong dudes
if they gonna do it again it has to be all with teen kids mostly girls

That's quite creepy...
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