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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #125 on: June 28, 2013, 06:58:02 PM »
Qantas is not Qatar. :)

So we're looking at QR 96 from Vienna to Doha, 1555-2215.

Which actually narrows things down a bit, if we assume that teams can get to their destination through Doha faster rather than through Dubai. There are a few flights today from Vienna to Dubai, so the chances of selling out are lower. Presumably they're not connecting to fly back to Europe, and presumably they're not going to Saudi Arabia or Iran (problematic for female racers)...

Looking pretty
Mahe, Seychelles
Colombo
Kathmandu
Kozhikode, Kerala

Less likely
Doha (night arrival)
Bahrain (night arrival)
Melbourne (too far a jump)
Jakarta (too much Indonesia recently)
Ho Chi Minh City (visited last season)
Baghdad
Benghazi
Erbil


Cities faster through Vienna-Dubai flight
Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Ras al-Khaymah, Sharjah, Kuwait
Nairobi, Khartoum, Lagos, Entebbe
Male, Delhi, Karachi, Peshawar, Dhaka, Lahore
Osaka, Tokyo, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Guangzhou, Beijing, Perth

Cities faster through other flights
Casablanca, Cairo, Istanbul, Algiers, Ankara, Tunis, Tripoli, Johannesburg, Dar es Salaam
Moscow, Amman, Baku, Muscat, Beirut
Hong Kong, Manila, Seoul, Bangkok, Shanghai

I was checking out the math here and I think there may be a mistake in the conclusion that Abu Dhabi be de-considered based on faster flight through Dubai.

Based on the apparent access to a flight leaving Vienna at 3:55 pm on June 22nd one would expect the earliest flight they could have used from Vienna to Dubai was EK 128 leaving Vienna at 3:30 pm and arriving in Dubai at 10:55 pm.  Then, looking at what was available at DXB from 11:55 pm onward, the next flight to Abu Dhabi would be ... none.  There are no direct flights from DXB to AUH.  So, is there a quick connection?  The time to beat would be QR 122 which leaves DOH at 11:59 pm and arrives at AUH at 2:00 am on the 23rd.  Looking at AUH arrivals making it before 2:00 am on the 23rd there is no matched city to departures from DXB except for Kuwait which doesn't work because EK 853 arrives in Kuwait after 9W 575 leaves.  Can't make the connection.

So my conclusion is that it is possible that Teams went to Abu Dhabi using this flight combination on June 22nd:     :tup:

QR 96 leaving Vienna at 3:55 pm and arriving in Doha at 10:15 pm
QR 122 leaving Doha at 11:59 pm and arriving in Abu Dhabi at 2:00 am
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #126 on: June 28, 2013, 07:12:46 PM »
Only if TPTB forced their hand and made them fly to Abu Dhabi.

Emirates operates buses from Dubai Airport to Abu Dhabi and markets them as a through-ticket, even giving the buses "flight numbers" and all. It doesn't show up on FlightStats for obvious reasons, but try to get a flight from Vienna to Abu Dhabi on a normal travel website or Emirates.com and that's the option that shows up.

Abu Dhabi also does not work for the flight into Bandung. Teams would not have to connect through Bangkok to get to Singapore. There's a direct Abu Dhabi-Singapore flight that leaves an hour and a half after the Abu Dhabi-Bangkok flight.
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #127 on: June 28, 2013, 07:53:11 PM »
Only if TPTB forced their hand and made them fly to Abu Dhabi.

Emirates operates buses from Dubai Airport to Abu Dhabi and markets them as a through-ticket, even giving the buses "flight numbers" and all. It doesn't show up on FlightStats for obvious reasons, but try to get a flight from Vienna to Abu Dhabi on a normal travel website or Emirates.com and that's the option that shows up.

Abu Dhabi also does not work for the flight into Bandung. Teams would not have to connect through Bangkok to get to Singapore. There's a direct Abu Dhabi-Singapore flight that leaves an hour and a half after the Abu Dhabi-Bangkok flight.

That direct flight is with Ethiad Airways which may be on the WRP no fly list.    :knuckles:

Here is a flight sequence that Teams could use from Abu Dhabi which ties in nicely with the two flights confirmed to have been used:  (scheduled times shown here)

QR 121 leaving AUH at 5:55 am on the 26th and arriving at DOH at 5:55 am (same time due to peculiar timezone positioning!)
QR 608 leaving DOH at 8:25 am and arriving at BKK at 7:20 pm
QS 981 leaving BKK at 9:00 pm and arriving at SIN at 12:25 am on the 27th
QZ 8366 leaving SIN at 9:00 am and arriving at BDO at 9:40 am
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #128 on: June 28, 2013, 08:22:37 PM »
After a quick flight stats search

JQ 109 to Perth 1620-1955

and

BR 256 to Taipei 1615-2130

jump out.

Other then that, Singapore, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Bangkok, and Kuala Lumpur. But those don't seem likely to me.

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #129 on: June 28, 2013, 08:26:34 PM »
dpe, CTV 891 from BDO to DPS is 1235-1505 so I would assume they would connect in the afternoon of June 29th. :tup:


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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #130 on: June 28, 2013, 08:29:30 PM »
VA 1440-1825 from Denpasar to Perth could be a flight for Phil & production crew.
And there's GA 2045-0030(+1) from Denpasar to Perth in case teams miss the tight connection.

I have a strong vibe on Perth.

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #131 on: June 28, 2013, 08:30:31 PM »
BDO to Denpasar
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #132 on: June 28, 2013, 08:34:24 PM »
These two are interesting:   Tokyo, Taipei

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #133 on: June 28, 2013, 08:43:17 PM »
I just checked Google to see where Denpasar was located, and according to my search, Denpasar received multiple inches of rain causing major flooding up to 50 cm deep. Hope they are not heading there!

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #134 on: June 28, 2013, 08:48:06 PM »

Forget about DPS teams now on-route to singapore...!!  )-**

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #135 on: June 28, 2013, 08:51:08 PM »
SIA has various late-night Australian flights that arrive late night for teams to get on.
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #136 on: June 28, 2013, 08:55:00 PM »

Forget about DPS teams now on-route to singapore...!!  )-**

SIN Singapore MI 191 Silkair 10:10 AM
SIN Singapore SQ 5191^ Singapore Airlines 10:10 AM
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #137 on: June 28, 2013, 09:44:32 PM »
It would be helpful if I was not the one having to post ALL the options?? Busy here! :funny:
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #138 on: June 28, 2013, 09:50:04 PM »
BDO to Singapore
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #139 on: June 28, 2013, 09:58:47 PM »
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #140 on: June 28, 2013, 10:00:22 PM »
I'm going to stalk the Philippines Airlines Terminal 2 counter. I am seriously seriously thinking Philippines Airlines and not Cebu Pacific. Let's see!
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #141 on: June 28, 2013, 10:00:54 PM »
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #142 on: June 28, 2013, 10:08:44 PM »
DEpartures SIN to Manila only:
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #143 on: June 28, 2013, 10:13:12 PM »
DEpartures SIN to Manila only:

What if they have already booked their tickets for the connecting leg and most of the time unless they're switching to a budget carrier they will not have to exit arrivals and re-enter the terminal since you can take the internal sky train in the transit area to connect terminals.

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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #144 on: June 28, 2013, 10:18:29 PM »
SQ 916 MORE LIKELY. Singapore Airlines allow transit passengers up to even 5 mins from flight departure time. If they are really going to Manila.
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #145 on: June 28, 2013, 11:03:27 PM »
Man is just spec!
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #146 on: June 28, 2013, 11:14:18 PM »
Wondering why not to try asking the check in counter personal for the the final destination.
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #147 on: June 28, 2013, 11:28:33 PM »
Wondering why not to try asking the check in counter personal for the the final destination.


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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #148 on: June 28, 2013, 11:34:28 PM »
Hurry. :)
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Re: AR23 Transportation
« Reply #149 on: June 28, 2013, 11:39:02 PM »
Sgpore is very strict ... Bandung may was easy to try as they quite loose n frenly like here in msia.
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