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THE AMAZING RACE ETHICS THREAD

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gamerfan09:

--- Quote from: Mug Costanza on November 08, 2013, 01:07:08 AM ---
The best part of the whole escapade was when one of them (I forget which) held up the Route Info clue and said, "No, see? We're blue team too." :lol:

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ryanmissing27:
Should Travis and Nicole have been penalised for having Amy pretty much complete the roadblock in leg 9 for them? I'm a little unclear on the rules here, I know teams have given each other advice or answers for tasks before but this seemed to me to be the next level. Did it seal the fate of the Ice Queens? definitely. Would they have survived if it hadnt happened? We'll never know.

In my opinion if Nicole cannot complete the roadblock successfully and her team arrives last they should be eliminated rather than:
If Nicole cannot complete the roadblock successfully she can get Amy to essentially do it for her and her team can survive while a team that completed the task independently is eliminated.

What are your thoughts?

GB:
"Ethics" in particular made me really upset during this episode. While Nicole is rushing off to try to cheat off of Leo (Of the team she U-Turned) by copying all of his hard work, it is interspersed with the two of them in an interview talking about how they want to run the race in an honest way and to set a good example for their children.

Explain to me how cheating off of someone else during a task is setting a good example? It seemed to me that the show was trying to portray Leo and Jamal in a poor light in this instance, when LEO was actually the one trying to play fair.

Looking over someone's shoulders to copy their answers is not permitted during a school exam. Why do Nicole & Travis feel it is morally right here?

I wouldn't have had a problem if it were not for their accompanying interview. If you were running an honest race, you wouldn't have even tried.

Also: This is not the first time teams have helped each other during tasks. It's only prohibited when clues specify (See TAR 7 England Roadblock)

Mug Costanza:
Amy helping Nicole wasn't even the first time this episode that team helped another with a task. Leo & Jamal gave Ally & Ashley the scarf they used to finish the Detour. Yes, it's a more oblique way of helping out, but it's still helping another team. Morally, I don't see anything wrong with helping another team, no matter how much or how little you help.


--- Quote from: GB on November 25, 2013, 01:55:11 PM ---"Ethics" in particular made me really upset during this episode. While Nicole is rushing off to try to cheat off of Leo (Of the team she U-Turned) by copying all of his hard work, it is interspersed with the two of them in an interview talking about how they want to run the race in an honest way and to set a good example for their children.

Explain to me how cheating off of someone else during a task is setting a good example? It seemed to me that the show was trying to portray Leo and Jamal in a poor light in this instance, when LEO was actually the one trying to play fair.

Looking over someone's shoulders to copy their answers is not permitted during a school exam. Why do Nicole & Travis feel it is morally right here?

I wouldn't have had a problem if it were not for their accompanying interview. If you were running an honest race, you wouldn't have even tried.

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Behold, the magic of editing. I guarantee that quote in the interview was taken out of context to make them look bad. For all we know, the full quote could have been something like "I feel so bad doing that at the Roadblock, because we wanted to run an honest race and set a good example for our kids," but the editors took out the first part. It's hard to judge someone based solely on a four-second sound bite.

dryedmangoez:
It's interesting because I don't think there was anything wrong with Amy helping Nicole since it was her decision.  Nicole could've begged all day and no one didn't have to help.

But there other tasks where teams have to solve puzzles where I don't think they should get any help.  Maybe like TAR19's starting line task with the umbrellas or TAR18's nautical phrase task.  Or something like special KAFKA. (lol) Teams should figure those out on their own.

Now about Nicole looking at Leo's finished angklung, I think it was hilarious.  But at the same time, it's the same as copying a provided example. (Was there an example?)
I actually look down more on Nicole begging Amy to STAY and help her than her chasing Leo around.

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