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TAR 22 EP 11 (Belfast) "Beacon of Hope"

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DrRox:

--- Quote from: apskip on May 06, 2013, 03:38:55 PM ---
kshel,

I know that you are local, but timetables generally are reliable sources of information. ScotRail's route maps and timetable show that trains to Glasgow can originate from all 3 of Edinburgh's rail stations, Waverly, Haymarket and Park. Although you can get off at Glasqow-Queen St., why would you want to? Trains for Stanraer depart from Glasgow-Central, so that would be the best Glasgow station to journey to. The Stanraer train does go through Ayr, but you do not get off and change there.

--- End quote ---

It is impossible to ride a train betwen Glasgow Queen Street Station and Glasgow Central...without going almost all the way back to Haymarket. There is no direct track betwen them. They are only 5-6 blocks apart in downtown Glasgow. ScotRail intinerary for trips to the ferry ports is to ride to Glasgow Queen Street Station and then walk to Glasgow Central Station. They actually allow 45 minutes for this transfer.

There are two mainlines from Edinburgh to Glasgow. One goes north of the Clyde  to Queen Street Station. The other goes south of the Clyde and terminates in Glasgow Central. Glasgow Central mainly connects to all points south....Manchester, LIverpool etc. While Glasgow Queen Street connects to points north in Scotland.

apskip:

--- Quote from: DrRox on May 06, 2013, 04:03:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on May 06, 2013, 03:38:55 PM ---
kshel,

I know that you are local, but timetables generally are reliable sources of information. ScotRail's route maps and timetable show that trains to Glasgow can originate from all 3 of Edinburgh's rail stations, Waverly, Haymarket and Park. Although you can get off at Glasqow-Queen St., why would you want to? Trains for Stanraer depart from Glasgow-Central, so that would be the best Glasgow station to journey to. The Stanraer train does go through Ayr, but you do not get off and change there.

--- End quote ---

It is impossible to ride a train betwen Glasgow Queen Street Station and Glasgow Central...without going almost all the way back to Haymarket. There is no direct track betwen them. They are only 5-6 blocks apart in downtown Glasgow. ScotRail intinerary for trips to the ferry ports is to ride to Glasgow Queen Street Station and then walk to Glasgow Central Station. They actually allow 45 minutes for this transfer.

There are two mainlines from Edinburgh to Glasgow. One goes north of the Clyde  to Queen Street Station. The other goes south of the Clyde and terminates in Glasgow Central. Glasgow Central mainly connects to all points south....Manchester, LIverpool etc. While Glasgow Queen Street connects to points north in Scotland.

--- End quote ---

I have gone back to the Glasgow area route map and I do see an orange line for "bus/interlink services" connecting Queen St. with Central station.

DrRox:
The RMS Titanic sank in the early morning hours of April 15, 1912. On the hundred year anniversary, this event was celebrated/memoralized around the world. One of the ways this was done was for restaurants to serve the dinner menu in first class that was served on April 14, 1912. In my city, there had to have been at least 100 restaurants, at a minimum, advertizing that fact. Many of them posted the menu on their ads. When I saw the screen caps of Max and Katie with the trays at the graving dock, that is the first thing that came to my mind. Then seeing the white tents, aboe and below, confirmed it to me. Below is the full menu. The part bolded is the part of that menu that TAR/WRP used in this episode.

The First-Class Menu

As served in the first-class dining saloon of the R.M.S. Titanic on April 14, 1912

First Course
Hors D'Oeuvres-Oysters
 
Second Course
Consommé Olga
        or
Cream of Barley

Third Course
Poached Salmon with Mousseline Sauce, Cucumbers

Fourth Course
Filet Mignons Lili
Saute of Chicken, Lyonnaise
Vegetable Marrow Farci

Fifth Course
Lamb, Mint Sauce
Roast Duckling, Apple Sauce
Sirloin of Beef, Chateau Potatoes
Green Pea
Creamed Carrots
Boiled Rice
Parmentier & Boiled New Potatoes

Sixth Course
Punch Romaine

Seventh Course
Roast Squab & Cress

Eighth Course
Cold Asparagus Vinaigrette

Ninth Course
Pate de Foie Gras
Celery

Tenth Course
Waldorf Pudding
Peaches in Chartreuse Jelly
Chocolate & Vanilla Eclairs
French Ice Cream

DrRox:
From DirectFerries.com      combined rail/ferry trip from Edinburgh to Belfast.

Journey summary
Outward Journey (05 Sep 2013)   
05:55 Edinburgh Waverley
06:49 Glasgow Queen Street Train 
SCOTRAIL  00h 54 (duration)

Calling Points 
06:49 Glasgow Queen Street
07:30 Glasgow Central Walk  n/a  00h 41
 
07:30 Glasgow Central
08:23 Ayr Station Train  SCOTRAIL  00h 53

Calling Points 
08:40 Ayr Station
09:55 Cairnryan Bus  SCOTRAIL  01h 15
 
11:30 Cairnryan
13:45 Belfast Port N.I. Ferry  SCOTRAIL  02h 15
 
13:45 Belfast Port N.I.
14:45 Belfast Central Transfer  n/a  01h 00

I will say that this is just an example of the ScotRail intinerary from Edinburgh to Belfast. All the other connections had the same amount of travel time. We do know that teams arrived at the ferry terminal in Cairnryan and had to spend several hours there waiting for the first or second ferry of the day. As apskip said, this was probably a schedule imposed upon the teams by production, probably to allow time for all the different crews to be ready for the teams arrival in Northern Ireland for daytime filming conditions.

I actually sent ScotRail an email and asked about the bus from Ayr to Stranraer. In thier reply, they explained that that they did not have an agreement with the company that actually owned the track from Ayr to Stranraer and therefore could not book that section as train travel. Teams bought tickets from a different source than ScotRail apparently and got the complete train ride to the Stranraer station.

My google earth says it is 6 miles from Stranraer to Cairnryan...the ferry terminal is not quite that far....maybe 5 miles.......so that is why teams took taxis. Who wants to run/walk 5 miles at 3 am or so in the morning? 
 

Mattjimf:

--- Quote from: apskip on May 07, 2013, 06:42:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: DrRox on May 06, 2013, 04:03:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on May 06, 2013, 03:38:55 PM ---
kshel,

I know that you are local, but timetables generally are reliable sources of information. ScotRail's route maps and timetable show that trains to Glasgow can originate from all 3 of Edinburgh's rail stations, Waverly, Haymarket and Park. Although you can get off at Glasqow-Queen St., why would you want to? Trains for Stanraer depart from Glasgow-Central, so that would be the best Glasgow station to journey to. The Stanraer train does go through Ayr, but you do not get off and change there.

--- End quote ---

It is impossible to ride a train betwen Glasgow Queen Street Station and Glasgow Central...without going almost all the way back to Haymarket. There is no direct track betwen them. They are only 5-6 blocks apart in downtown Glasgow. ScotRail intinerary for trips to the ferry ports is to ride to Glasgow Queen Street Station and then walk to Glasgow Central Station. They actually allow 45 minutes for this transfer.

There are two mainlines from Edinburgh to Glasgow. One goes north of the Clyde  to Queen Street Station. The other goes south of the Clyde and terminates in Glasgow Central. Glasgow Central mainly connects to all points south....Manchester, LIverpool etc. While Glasgow Queen Street connects to points north in Scotland.

--- End quote ---

I have gone back to the Glasgow area route map and I do see an orange line for "bus/interlink services" connecting Queen St. with Central station.

--- End quote ---
There is a shuttle bus that goes from Buchannan St Bus station-Queen Street-Central Station-Airport every 10 minutes, which is probably the Orange line, but it's every 10 minutes and if you miss one, it's probably easier to walk (done the route myself when travelling to London/Ayr via Glasgow, not so much fun with a puppy and lots of bags!).

As mentioned in the Transportation thread, there are straight-through trains to Stranraer that you can book on the Scotrail website, so god knows what they were going on about in the email.

Only certain Scotrail trains travel straight to Glasgow Central (seems to be one an hour) with more regular trains terminating at Queen Street.

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