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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #125 on: April 25, 2013, 09:35:59 PM »
The only situation that seems to make sense to me is all teams arriving at the same time, bates/anthony and maxie arrive at detour clue before beth and mona but somehow in the detour joey and meghan finish first ( maybe they arrived quite high up at detour clue as well) and then they uturn bates and anthony cos their alliance with beth/mona cos beth/mona were slightly annoyed at them from last leg. Then  Bates/anthony uturn maxie maybe and this leaves beth/mona, youtube and maybe blondes at the roadblock. I would say the three girls struggle at the roadblock and so the uturned teams catch up and blondes or youtube end up last... so confusing..


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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2013, 10:21:22 PM »
Is it absolutely certain they flew into Edinburgh?

Just last leg, teams:
- got from Grindelwald to Interlaken
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- flew from Basel to Dresden
- drove from Dresden to Berlin

when they could've just as easily:
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- fly from Basel to Berlin
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars attached OR

- took a set of trains from Interlaken to Berlin (Interlaken - Zurich - Frankfurt - Berlin) or something?
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars

The point is, TPTB like to add 'time-wasters' in an effort to get ahead of the teams, and they've done it more and more in recent seasons - the ferry to Mallorca when it has an airport last season, the train from Barcelona to the Loire Valley when they could've driven from Paris last season, the train to Austria in TAR 20, the train to Amsterdam in TAR 19 just to fly to Panama (when Brussels has an international airport), and so on. What's to say the teams weren't directed to fly to Glasgow or Aberdeen, and then take a train ride to Edinburgh?

Regardless of the how:



I think it's safe to say they're bunched somewhere.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #127 on: April 25, 2013, 11:11:48 PM »
Also thinking now that this cap does relate to the Bagpipe task.
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #128 on: April 25, 2013, 11:12:02 PM »
Is it absolutely certain they flew into Edinburgh?

Just last leg, teams:
- got from Grindelwald to Interlaken
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- flew from Basel to Dresden
- drove from Dresden to Berlin

when they could've just as easily:
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- fly from Basel to Berlin
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars attached OR

- took a set of trains from Interlaken to Berlin (Interlaken - Zurich - Frankfurt - Berlin) or something?
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars

The point is, TPTB like to add 'time-wasters' in an effort to get ahead of the teams, and they've done it more and more in recent seasons - the ferry to Mallorca when it has an airport last season, the train from Barcelona to the Loire Valley when they could've driven from Paris last season, the train to Austria in TAR 20, the train to Amsterdam in TAR 19 just to fly to Panama (when Brussels has an international airport), and so on. What's to say the teams weren't directed to fly to Glasgow or Aberdeen, and then take a train ride to Edinburgh?

Regardless of the how:



I think it's safe to say they're bunched somewhere.

What are you talking about? The clue said that they had to go to Dresden, not Berlin. In Dresden, they found the car and the clue which said that they drove themselves to Berlin.
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2013, 11:13:01 PM »
And this one looks like a happy face PitStop run to me....
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2013, 11:25:05 PM »
Fair enough spec. But the caps do suggest a flight to Berlin, y'all can see more in the transport thread.
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2013, 11:39:18 PM »

As for the spoiled Joey/Meghan elimination. It could be that both U-turned teams surpass J/M (granted they don't get U-turned themselves) at the roadblock due to Meghan not being able to play the bagpipe.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #132 on: April 25, 2013, 11:56:09 PM »
Sneak peek is up

The Amazing Race - Working Our Barrels Off (Sneak Peek)



With a chance to compete in the finale on the line, the final five teams race through Scotland, where they encounter a double U-turn that puts two teams in jeopardy of elimination, on the next episode of The Amazing Race, Sunday, April 28, 8/7c. Only CBS

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2013, 12:13:25 AM »
Oh my gosh. That speedbump looks like it may take a while.  :lol3:

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2013, 01:04:08 AM »
Is it absolutely certain they flew into Edinburgh?

Just last leg, teams:
- got from Grindelwald to Interlaken
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- flew from Basel to Dresden
- drove from Dresden to Berlin

when they could've just as easily:
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- fly from Basel to Berlin
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars attached OR

- took a set of trains from Interlaken to Berlin (Interlaken - Zurich - Frankfurt - Berlin) or something?
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars

The point is, TPTB like to add 'time-wasters' in an effort to get ahead of the teams, and they've done it more and more in recent seasons - the ferry to Mallorca when it has an airport last season, the train from Barcelona to the Loire Valley when they could've driven from Paris last season, the train to Austria in TAR 20, the train to Amsterdam in TAR 19 just to fly to Panama (when Brussels has an international airport), and so on. What's to say the teams weren't directed to fly to Glasgow or Aberdeen, and then take a train ride to Edinburgh?

Regardless of the how:



I think it's safe to say they're bunched somewhere.

What are you talking about? The clue said that they had to go to Dresden, not Berlin. In Dresden, they found the car and the clue which said that they drove themselves to Berlin.

I'm not arguing that (it's the first list). The other things I listed were to illustrate that they could've avoided Dresden (and Interlaken and possibly even Basel) entirely but they didn't. I think the same trick might be done this leg to bunch everyone up.


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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2013, 01:11:58 AM »
Thanks Will! Sneak Peek vid up in post 2!
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2013, 02:16:07 AM »
And this one looks like a happy face PitStop run to me....

Baring in mind there are Bagpipers on the steps and J/M look like they would get exited at the opening of a crisp (chip) bag.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #137 on: April 26, 2013, 07:04:25 AM »
Mattjimf,

Could the Hockey guys be coming from the Waverly Train Sta. looking for the next clue? Could the train station fit in with the general flow of the leg in Edinburgh?

The reason I ask, teams were seen @ breakfast time in Berlin on Dec 2 and then C/J were seen at the Holiday Inn Express on Cowgate (Royal Mile?) about 1600 on Dec 3. We also have the picture of B/A on the Royal Mile you said by a bank. Is the Royal Mile on Cowgate, by any chance.

Teams finish the Berlin leg late at night on Dec 1. So if they flew out of Berlin on Dec 2 for an unknown destination on the Continent, then it is possible that they took another night train to Edinburgh, similiar to the trip from Barcelona to Tours in TAR 21. This would give Phil time to do his standups and could certainly explain the team bunching we seem to have in Edinburgh.

Another possibility is flying Berlin to London and take a train to Edinburgh, with a late night HoO. This would require a late enough pit release in Berlin to gaurentee that no teams could reach Edinburgh before sunset.

Also, they could have taken an extended pit stop in Berlin too. Their hotel is right by the zoo if they wanted to go sightseeing...lol
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 08:06:58 AM by DrRox »
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #138 on: April 26, 2013, 07:57:13 AM »
Is it absolutely certain they flew into Edinburgh?

Just last leg, teams:
- got from Grindelwald to Interlaken
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- flew from Basel to Dresden
- drove from Dresden to Berlin

when they could've just as easily:
- took a train from Interlaken to Basel
- fly from Basel to Berlin
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars attached OR

- took a set of trains from Interlaken to Berlin (Interlaken - Zurich - Frankfurt - Berlin) or something?
- get directed to a clue outside Berlin with cars

The point is, TPTB like to add 'time-wasters' in an effort to get ahead of the teams, and they've done it more and more in recent seasons - the ferry to Mallorca when it has an airport last season, the train from Barcelona to the Loire Valley when they could've driven from Paris last season, the train to Austria in TAR 20, the train to Amsterdam in TAR 19 just to fly to Panama (when Brussels has an international airport), and so on. What's to say the teams weren't directed to fly to Glasgow or Aberdeen, and then take a train ride to Edinburgh?

Regardless of the how:



I think it's safe to say they're bunched somewhere.

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You have an interesting theory that is not supported by actual flight and train timetables. There are loads of trains from Aberdeen to Edinburgh (lasting 2 hour 25 min. to 2 hours 38 min.) and from Glasgow to Edinburgh (lasting 55 min. to 1 hour 38 min.). However, there are no flights from Berlin-Tegel to either Glasgow or to Aberdeen. There are connecting flights through Amsterdam and London-Heathrow, but they would not be any better than those connecting there to Edinburgh itself. The extra rail segment makes sense only if there are nonstop flights to Glasgow or Aberdeen and those do not exist.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #139 on: April 26, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »
The Royal Mile runs parallel to Cowgate.

The only way to get into the city centre from the airport is by bus or taxi/car, if they got the bus, the airport bus stop is across from Waverly Train station. I really can't see how they could fly from Berlin into another town then know they have to get a train to Edinburgh.

It could be that there was a 24 hour pitstop in Berlin, releasing them at night in Berlin (which could be supported by the picture of J/M in the montage pic 52 of them running from the car at night, looks to be the one they were driving in Berlin), bunching them up at Tegel Airport then the only two options by Lufthansa to get to Edinburgh.

There is an option of travelling from Berlin to Edinburgh via Heathrow that would get them into Edinburgh at 2:08pm, will post full details in the Transport thread.

« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 09:14:14 AM by Mattjimf »

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #140 on: April 26, 2013, 09:08:05 AM »
Teams finish the Berlin leg late at night on Dec 1. So if they flew out of Berlin on Dec 2 for an unknown destination on the Continent, then it is possible that they took another night train to Edinburgh, similiar to the trip from Barcelona to Tours in TAR 21. This would give Phil time to do his standups and could certainly explain the team bunching we seem to have in Edinburgh.

Interesting theory, but the teams ARE shown at an airport in the promos... So we know that that is definitely one of the forms of transportation. Whether they take a train after (or even before) the flight is something I'm not sure of.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #141 on: April 26, 2013, 10:10:51 AM »
I really can't see how they could fly from Berlin into another town then know they have to get a train to Edinburgh.

I was thinking along the same scenario as how they got from Dresden to Berlin. They didnt know the were going to Berlin, till they answered the questions in the car.

I am working on three assumptions:
a) there was no extended pit stop
b) teams were equalized upon arrival in Edinburgh
c) the normal 24 hour head start that Phil tries to get to film his standups

I think the photo of J/M is under the parking garage at Tegel Airport. Depending on release times on Dec 2, I think it is possible that J/M and B/M stopped at a travel agency to book flights before going to Tegel. Then the other teams get to Tegel, flights are booked and they have a 3 hour deficit.

Teams fly to London and are instructed to go somewhere to get next clue. When they get to the cluebox, there is an HoO and they have to wait till morning of Dec 3. This equalizes the teams and the clue says to take a train to Edinburgh for next clue or location of cars w/clue as in Dresden. Train ride is approximately 5-6 hours and all teams are on same train. Maybe the clue box is in Kings Cross....near the train station. The train ride gets teams to Edinburgh after lunch to do the tasks before sundown.

That photo of B/A at the Bank Hotel appears to me that they are going into that narrow alley, on the east side of the hotel, which has a car park in it. C/J are seen in the same area asking for directions.

Anyway, probably nothing of it is true, but I am just trying to make some sense out of the data.
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #142 on: April 26, 2013, 11:09:23 AM »
I really can't see how they could fly from Berlin into another town then know they have to get a train to Edinburgh.

I was thinking along the same scenario as how they got from Dresden to Berlin. They didnt know the were going to Berlin, till they answered the questions in the car.

I am working on three assumptions:
a) there was no extended pit stop
b) teams were equalized upon arrival in Edinburgh
c) the normal 24 hour head start that Phil tries to get to film his standups

I think the photo of J/M is under the parking garage at Tegel Airport. Depending on release times on Dec 2, I think it is possible that J/M and B/M stopped at a travel agency to book flights before going to Tegel. Then the other teams get to Tegel, flights are booked and they have a 3 hour deficit.

Teams fly to London and are instructed to go somewhere to get next clue. When they get to the cluebox, there is an HoO and they have to wait till morning of Dec 3. This equalizes the teams and the clue says to take a train to Edinburgh for next clue or location of cars w/clue as in Dresden. Train ride is approximately 5-6 hours and all teams are on same train. Maybe the clue box is in Kings Cross....near the train station. The train ride gets teams to Edinburgh after lunch to do the tasks before sundown.

That photo of B/A at the Bank Hotel appears to me that they are going into that narrow alley, on the east side of the hotel, which has a car park in it. C/J are seen in the same area asking for directions.

Anyway, probably nothing of it is true, but I am just trying to make some sense out of the data.

This scenario makes the most sense to me - especially since there is some tenuous evidence of production being in London...
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2013, 11:35:12 AM »

This scenario makes the most sense to me - especially since there is some tenuous evidence of production being in London...
I like the "Caledonia Sleeper" overnight train for the transport between London Euston or Waverly Station to Edinburgh. Departs 23:50 from London - arrives at 07:22 in Edinburgh.

That is a good train, except it arrives in Edinburgh way to early in the day.

That is the only way I could see a J/M elimination. If J/M and B/M actually do have a 3 hour lead when they fly into Edinburgh, then looks like it will be a C/J elimination. But then again, J/M get lost a lot when they drive.....maybe they end up in Aberdeen and have to drive back to Edinburgh....lol
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #144 on: April 26, 2013, 11:46:10 AM »
I'm not arguing that (it's the first list). The other things I listed were to illustrate that they could've avoided Dresden (and Interlaken and possibly even Basel) entirely but they didn't. I think the same trick might be done this leg to bunch everyone up.

I still don't get what you said. The clue said that they had to go to Dresden and the cars were in Dresden. How did they go directly to Berlin when they did not know anything about Berlin from the first clue?
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #145 on: April 26, 2013, 04:30:30 PM »
I really don't see how they can get to Edinburgh other than flying.

If you get a chance to go to a music store with bagpipes, ask for a go, it's hard enough inflating and keeping them inflated never mind getting the notes right while squeezing the bag to go along with the other pipers.

It is possible they could get lost on the way to/from Gosford House, but Craigmillar castle is well sign-posted in that side of the town, and it's a direct road from Craigmillar to Duddingston.

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #146 on: April 26, 2013, 04:37:29 PM »

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Max is driving through Longniddry in this cap, nearby where Gosford House is (I can't access Street View at the moment to illustrate this).
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2013, 04:40:02 PM »
I really don't see how they can get to Edinburgh other than flying.

If you get a chance to go to a music store with bagpipes, ask for a go, it's hard enough inflating and keeping them inflated never mind getting the notes right while squeezing the bag to go along with the other pipers.

It is possible they could get lost on the way to/from Gosford House, but Craigmillar castle is well sign-posted in that side of the town, and it's a direct road from Craigmillar to Duddingston.

The most likely option is the flying option but they could have taken a train from Kings Cross up to Edinburgh (4hr 22mins train ride). If production wanted a clear lead on teams, it would seem most logical to do that, although they might already have enough of a lead so they could just fly direct to Edinburgh
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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #148 on: April 27, 2013, 08:16:23 PM »

Pic of Meghan just getting her route info clue after the roadblock, seems like its night there... do we agree?

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Re: TAR 22 EP 10 "Working Our Barrels Off"
« Reply #149 on: April 27, 2013, 08:25:13 PM »
Two questions :

How do y'all know that Meghan won't be able to do the Roadblock?

And , how do we know that (that cap that peach posted) is a Pit Stop run?
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