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Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« on: March 03, 2013, 06:46:01 PM »
Jillian HOH

Aneal and Gary nominated to be  on the block

POV players Aneal Gary Jillian Peter AJ Danielle Liza

Gary won POV

Gary used Veto on himself

Danielle named as the replacement  nominee

Danielle and Aneal are on the block  and up for Eviction
« Last Edit: March 04, 2013, 08:54:43 PM by ugot2bekidinmeny »
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 09:51:30 AM »
 :hello2: Drive by post Feeds are  blocked at this moment! maybe it's their wake up call!
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 09:57:04 AM »
Seems like I missed  some good stuff last night so I will post what happened here  but please understand this is what I have read via Twitter (thanks hamsterwatch!)

The HG's are on a 48 hr punishment  which is NO HOT WATER. This is because Topaz did not put her mic on and also they are no longer allowed to play card games.
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 10:21:30 AM »
Here's the transcribe of the BB House meeting and Punishment

BB: Many of you have been reluctant to follow the instructions by Big brother as described. This afternoon Topaz was asked repeatedly to put on her microphone and neglected to do so as a result all HOT WATER to the house has been cut off for a period of 48 hours. Future repercussions will be more severe. Furthermore games are not permitted in the BB House . Topaz please gather the playing cards and Chess board  and take them to the SR. Have a good night

Talla Topaz!!!

Topaz no I was wearing my thing! it was on but it was just off

Andrew that eff'n sucks

 topaz thats BS  it was on just eff'n off.. whatever BB im gonna pull a Gary :dick: U!
« Last Edit: March 04, 2013, 10:31:18 AM by ugot2bekidinmeny »
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 10:27:58 AM »
More from BB: Topaz  for the sake of the house I suggest you hurry

 Topaz  they did that on purpose  they chose any little thing that someone did.

 Andrew everyone made errors

Topaz puuts the items in the SR

 Topaz they are just picking any little tbing.. I didnt purposely didnt   avoid them.. Im too nice and they ust wnat to get under my skin..

AJ anyone would have been upset..

Topaz they are just playing games and because I said that I don't like cold showers..  and I complained the most cuz I didnt want to go in the the bucket

 AJ we're all just spray some cologne and  perfume

 Topaz Im over it

Feeds flip to Tom and Liza on the hammock and Tom says it's true people keep eff'n around and not taking things seriously.. it's such a shady thing to do just like dropping on people like that.

So that's the over night transcribe and punishment

« Last Edit: March 04, 2013, 10:31:40 AM by ugot2bekidinmeny »
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 10:39:42 AM »
More over nite discussion and game play resulted In Peter  and Alec comparing notes and went to Aneal and said that he thinks there  is a girls alliance and now Aneal might have Peter ans Alec's vote. Peter said that Emmett would cut ties with  Jillian..  Peter thinks that he could get AJ  and Andrew to go along with this and keep Aneal and work with him for another week. SO they are going to try and get Danielle out  as of   2am. EST
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 10:43:53 AM »
Live feeds back

Feeds 1/3 Suzette Alec Aj and Danielle  Suzette  says that in production that she is the first native   aborigines that they have met

Aj i've met millions of people and I can think of 2 others that are native aborigines

 Suzette in some schools they dont teach about the native aborigines 
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 10:45:58 AM »
Outside a mini pow wow Jillian Emmett peter Tom Liza  they are trying to come up with games. they want to play water balloon games with the condoms

Emmett is openly showing affection to Jillian in front of others by rubbing her back

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 10:48:04 AM »
Contemplation of whether there really is a reward coming.

 Liza they have to give it to you.. you  revealed it after they told you in the Dr so they have to  give it to us

 Jillian maybe it will be later on tonight.. we have 3 days left
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 10:49:55 AM »
Danielle alec Aj and Suzette is still  talking about the natives and how people  dont get the jobs..  and that there are alot of natives in Toronto

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 10:56:29 AM »
Suzette we are forcibly made to have no language.. how can they do that to us..  I think native people where we have come to the point where we roll with the punches and just survive  but I am not going to forget about who i am.

AJ I want to learn more

 Suzette everyone has a rich culture 

AJ India is a  great culture  we were ruled by the British but  we didnt have genocide

 Suzette yeah we had that..
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 10:58:31 AM »
Outback Peter tom and Liza talkign about why Topaz is sleeping so much

Peter she is like the JODI of BB14

 Liza whats the point? dont you want to get up and get to know people. I came here to get to know people and have  fun not to nap.
 

Tom I can see how it's affecting Talla cuz she is on slop  we  are up but  once  we're off slop we should be all back to normal

 
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 10:59:44 AM »
Peter I dont know how we didnt win..

 Tom we have to get that red team on slop..

 peter yeah and if they break the slop after one day.. uhhhgg

 Liza I dont get it . sleeping all this time.

 Tom I was sleeping alot when I worked off hours or in the bar

 Liza leaves Tom and peter to talk
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 11:01:47 AM »
Tom it just makes it so much easier for me to dispose people

Peter Danielle asked me for a vote today

 Tom she just assumes that I am voting for her she have never asked me  or talked to me.. little does she know she is going home **

 Peter the beuaty of it is this week we need 4 plus 2 then next week we need 4 plus 1 so we will always have  the majority

 tom if this works  it will be huge..

 peter we can do this.. next week it will be 6

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 11:04:12 AM »
Tom is going to refer to Danielle as "woody" so no one knows who they are talking about

peter I say we use Aneal as a pawn next week and say that we saved him

 Tom yeah..  and then we put up Suzette and Aneal and then  we can put up Gary if Suzette wins POV

Tom it's amazing how we have 4 votes already

 peter yeah that's how you control the game
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2013, 11:08:12 AM »
Feeds 2/4 Emmett and Alec talking about what Suzette's ancestors when thru in the Canadian history in the SR
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 11:13:54 AM »
The houseguest are being awoken by a buzzer in regards to no sleeping at this time.. it's pretty loud! :lala:

Danielle thinks its for gary

 Gary is on the couch sleeping

Topaz is on the hammock sleeping

 Gary says i's not him :lol3:

Topaz.. Im in a hammock! I am allowed to lay down.. my eyes are open!! they can zoom in and see that Im awake!
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 11:14:27 AM »
Topasz they are going to have to call me in the DR if they have an issue with me laying in a hammock (:;)
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 11:15:51 AM »
Gary is crawling thru the hallway to the bathroom :lol3: the buzzer was for him

 Talla just took a cold shower
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 11:18:34 AM »
Peter and Liza are  game talking Liza I can use gary to knock off aneal

Liza Andrew is the only one that noticed our closeness

Liza gary and Danielle hate tom.. so im trying to get them to go after Tom

 Liza gary knows you are very smart..  that's why i wanted to talk to you yesterday but i wanted to get  to you and tell you
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2013, 11:23:11 AM »
Aneal now in the bedroom with peter and Liza

Liza you think they will give us clothes for another endurance

 Aneal in the states they rarely give them clothes (wrong)

Aneal isnt it veto that the  americans only get outfits for?

 BB HG's please stop talking bout production

 peter I dont know why tht would count as production

 Liza I cant wait for the  fashion show on thursday gary is going to direct it with makeup and fashion
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2013, 11:24:06 AM »
gary now in the bedroom

 Peter gary can you look thru your clothes for one of my jeans i lost a pair..  banana republic

Gary yeah..
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2013, 11:28:06 AM »
many of the HG's are in the kitchen still doing breakfast AJ Emmett Jillian Danielle  Talla Alec Andrew  and Liza
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2013, 11:29:19 AM »
Gary and Tom are the only ones in the bedroom at this time

Tom my feelings are different now cuz I have no energy and no food..  Im being social and working out..

 Gary True

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2013, 11:31:26 AM »
gary leaves the bedroom  then back in to put on orange pants  :doh:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2013, 11:32:30 AM »
All feeds now move to the kitchen
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2013, 11:33:15 AM »
Tom is vacuuming

Liza Peter and Danielle at the dinning table
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2013, 11:34:33 AM »
Talla and Gary in the bathroom Talla putting on makeup gary has something with his eye going on

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2013, 11:37:00 AM »
gary :noweay now my skin is getting :dick:up I dont have bad skin.. Danielle  my skin is getting messed up

 Gary Jillian  do you think this is bad what do you think this is?

 Jillian dry skin.. you are drying out we are all drying out like prunes

 Gary no uh.. I have amazing skin before coming in here i didnt need make up I have amazing skin!!!

 
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 11:39:50 AM »
gary goes back into the bathroom Danielle and Talla  are there
 
Talla keep your head up

 Gary i dont want to cake on concealer..  Im gonna aks BB  Gary heads to the DR  it's an emergency.. my skin is messed up.. 

Gary parks himself outside the DR door and says that he's waiting till they open it for him  :lol3:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2013, 11:41:04 AM »
gary pressed the button again and still they have not opened the door for him :lol3:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2013, 11:42:01 AM »
it's not even a whole minute and gary pressed it again  and he's being SHUT OUT! :lolmao:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2013, 11:43:53 AM »
Talla is talking to Andrew ans asks if the humidifier is doing anything for him

 Andrew no

 feeds flip to Danielle Suzette and Liza at teh dinning table

Suzette has been to a bieber concert
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2013, 11:45:51 AM »
Feeds flipped real quick outside to an empty swinging hammock

then back into the ktichen

 Gary is being over dramatic about the rash on his face  :groan:

 Seems like more than 1/3 have rash issues going on

 
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2013, 11:57:23 AM »
general  chatter at the dinning table about  residuals for songs

 Aneal everyone need to fight to stay here i dont think that anyone left on thier own.

 Suzette except for the girl that threw her mic (CHIMA) and the violence from last year

 Aneal is not telling the whole Chima story
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2013, 11:59:34 AM »
Suzette BB can do whatever  they want

 Jillian she left the house?

 Aneal Chima threw her mic in the pool she was over it

 Feeds flip to the bathroom Talla Liza and tom. Talla is happy about the  new protein mix

Liza is cleaning the bathroom
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2013, 12:00:25 PM »
Talla danielle is wondering  if you are ok

 Tom well she hasnt come and talk to me about it
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2013, 12:01:50 PM »
Alec and peter in the bedroom Alec I think this is the play and I thought about it a while go but now we know that their allegiance is against the other group.. and the only way this wouldn't work is us losing a ton of HOH in a row

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2013, 12:04:34 PM »
Peter if the house splits independently then we dont kow wher everyone is but if we split the house then we know where everyone's head is

 Alec if Aneal thinks that  Tom is coming for him we have to  tell him we saved him

 Alec and we have to push tom to  win HOH

 Danielle comes in and alec says that is the play..   busted!!!

 Alec dont worry it's not about you..  but we are starting to har that aneal is trying to  get votes

 talla comes in now

 Alec can you tell Danielle that she  has nothing to worry about..

 Talla  yeah

 Alec Danielle Aneal is going to do that his back is against the wall.
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2013, 12:05:45 PM »
Liza is complaining about the bathroom  is gross  to peter and Aj

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2013, 12:10:31 PM »
Danielle is getting  into the hot tub

Gary is getting all upset that BB wont let him into the DR

brb phone
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2013, 12:20:07 PM »
Andrew and Danielle in the hottub out back

Jillian and Alec up in the HOH
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2013, 12:21:16 PM »
Alec is saying that he has dry skin now too

 Jillian everyone is like that the air is so dry
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2013, 12:24:39 PM »
Hot tub is FULL!! Andrew Danielle Suzette and Emmett they are happy that there is blue sky the sun is coming through the slats of the roof

They are all saying they want to get together after the show

 Andrew  why dont we get together for next years premier.. we'll get them to fly us out.
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2013, 12:29:59 PM »
Gary heated up hot water to clean his face with
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2013, 12:31:50 PM »
Im taking a break if anyone wants to jump in and help update that would be great! :tup:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2013, 05:05:01 PM »
Inside lockdown kichen group is full and happy Gary and Topaz at the dinning table

Gary they wanted a reaction and they got their reaction..

 Topaz they could have said only topaz should not have hot water

 gary we shoudnt say tht too loud

 Topaz they care but they dont blame me

Tom Talla and Liza are watching Danielle put on make up

Tom you stand like a gymnast  Danielle
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2013, 05:29:34 PM »
gary and Aneal in the bedroom Gary is getting things ready for his fashion party

feeds 1/3 flip to HOH with Emmett and jillian

 emmett come hither

 Jillian come hither?? my hair stinks!!

 Emmett i'll smell it .. nope it smells good
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2013, 05:44:11 PM »
Aneal is now in the kitchen with Talla Andrew Peter Alec Topaz and AJ
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2013, 06:44:22 PM »
JIllian knows that Tom now wants to vote out Danielle

 Emmett Tom figures we can use Aneal alter on

 Jillian it's like you guys took my HOH

Jillian had no control over it from the get go

 meanwhile the house has received it's reward from a task that Peter had to do unsure if the inside Phone rang or not it was not on the feeds

 The HG's are having a ski party and the Have Nots CAN EAT

*NOTE* I was trying to post this @ an hour ago but was having internet issues
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2013, 06:52:49 PM »
They are blocking us from seeing the ski party so check back  later for updates :tup:
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday 3/4/13
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2013, 08:52:14 PM »
back from the Ski party all the HG's are in great moods!
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2013, 08:55:44 PM »
The HG's are in rare form talking about :farts: cursing and  seem slightly intoxicated from their party
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2013, 08:56:51 PM »
Emmett and Jillian are inside making something to eat

Danielle is doing a bird dance

 everyone else is outside on the sofa's out back
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2013, 08:58:42 PM »
The have nots can still eat party food that was  given to them

Talla i was loosing my marbles  and this party coudnt have come at a better time.. now Im good

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2013, 09:03:23 PM »
Suzette and Danielle are talking by the party table about what will happen next  week when they win HOH

 Danilelle that's mine thing Im gonna say " you got played mofo"

Danielle is drinking baily's and hot cocco

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2013, 09:05:57 PM »
Talla Tom and Emmett

 tall if i win HOH what should i do

 Tom we'll talk about that later
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2013, 09:10:23 PM »
Tom and Emmett are talking bout the showmance situation

 Tom i think im gona have to "do it " to her tonight

 Emmett yeah?

 Tom yeah I dont want to

 Emmett well the make out situation isnt that bad but I haven't gone that far yet (with Jillian)

Tom my testosterone is going nuts though..

 Emmett so then just do it

 Tom well I really like a girl back home and if i do all the girls in Calgary will hate me
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2013, 11:52:34 AM »
 :hello2:

Gary and Suzette are in the kitchen along with Jillian cooking lunch (I am starting to think she is the only one who cooks lol)

Talla and Peter in the backyard

Gary and Jillian talking and Jillian says she is the only one who cleans after the food mess lol

Danielle eating a sandwhich

Shockwave has crashed on my latop and I can't watch the feeds :gaah: Anyone know how to fix this?
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2013, 02:41:16 PM »
Feeds 1 and 3 focus on Emett and Jillian making out in the HOH room. Now they finish and starting gathering their clothing

Feed 2 is off the hook for some reason.

Danielle blow drying her hair  and Suzette in the washroom.

Gary leaves washroom and now joins Suzette in room.

Not sure if its me but the feeds seem to be lagging.

gary telling Suzette what the girls are weighing. Suzette says she needs to lose weight.

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2013, 03:03:16 PM »
Jillian and Emett laying in hammoch with small talk



Jillian and Emett now discussing what they want to do in June when they get of the house. She wants to meet his friends.



Tom and Topaz working out
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2013, 03:22:15 PM »
Now Jillian and Emtt now discussing her parents and how her dad remarried.

Feed 2 continues to be off the hook.

Suzette, Danielle and Gary in bedroom. Danielle says she has self respect

Gary calls the guys are pigs

Now they are shocked at Peter saying something rude (not sure what the comment is)

They now say Alec, Emett, Tom are using Peter to further themselves.

Now Danielle says Emett doesn;t talk to her anymore  :res:

They say Tom wants Talla lol

Now they say one of them has to WIN HOH, hinting at Aneal's departure.

They want to backdoor Tom and put up Emett and Jillian.

He wants one of the three gone (Emett, Jilian and Tom).

Danielle says Tom has been starving for his whole lie and will be back to that alone (I found that as a rude comment).

Danielle says each week they get stronger ans stronger (its only been 2 weeks Lol!)

They are scared if they put Tom on the block because they think he will win veto.

Danielle saying ppl wanted Gary out because of the glitter and he is shocked to learn that

Danielle hates Liza! (Who doesn't she hate -.-)

Now Danielle says she F*ucking hates Tom
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2013, 03:32:27 PM »
Danielle is jealous because she lets Talla get to the jury house. She says they don't want her in the jury because they can't have sex with her. She says Talla can start fights because she is guarnteed jury.

Gary says they cant trust Talla and that she is bouncing around.

I think Suzette left and Gary says Danielle and himself should merge with Emett and Jillian.

They say Peter is strong smart and social and biggest threat in house  :winner
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2013, 03:39:02 PM »
Gary says Tom is plucking of the pawns. Topac and Alec Tom and Talla and Jillian and Emett are going to make jury hosue according to Gary.

Danielle says she wont give up in endurance comp

Gary goes into the washroom and says his mic is broken


Aj and Topaz eating pizza now
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2013, 03:47:27 PM »
LMAO! Alec is trying to wear a sock on his head and Topaz says you look dumb!

and then Peter calls him a Hasific Jew



Now they say they should take advantage of the free food lol (Tom, Alec and Suzette)

Alec brought headbands with messages from his family and then it was confiscated by BB
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2013, 03:53:20 PM »
Gary refers to every girl as bitch -.-

Tom is telling Topaz what to eat and she doesnt sound interested LOL!

A women says Tom to the storage room

Majority of the house now in the dining room/kitchen. Only person I haven;t noticed is Aneal.

Aneal is actuall in the by with Andrew, Liza and Aj

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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2013, 09:02:13 PM »
All feeds are blocked.

I wonder what they are doing?  :o
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Re: Live Feed Updates Monday-Tuesday 3/4/13-3/5/13
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2013, 10:08:08 PM »
While the feeds are down lets lock this thread down and start a new day over here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28569.0.html
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