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Welcome!
« on: January 07, 2013, 12:47:37 PM »
Hi everyone!

With a fresh new year upon us, it's time to unveil a brand new and very exciting venture from Reality Fan Forum.

It's called Reality Fan Wiki, and its aim is to become the world's number one resource for all things reality TV. Whether its Amazing Race, Survivor, Big Brother or anything else reality, we want RFW to become the ultimate database for fans and contestants alike. Rob & I have been working hard over the last few months to get everything in place, and I think we finally have the perfect platform to make it happen.

As with any wiki, this isn't going to happen overnight. Just by being a member of Reality Fan Forum, you have already helped make RFF the number one discussion board for reality TV on the net. Now, we need YOUR help again to put RFW on the map.

Sure, Wikipedia is a good place to start for casual fans of reality shows, but we at RFF are anything but casual fans! For more in-depth results, records and contestant information, you often need to turn to one of the fairly messy wiki farm sites, riddled with adverts and unreliable information. Reality Fan Wiki is not hosted on a wiki farm; we have full control on what we do with it and the potential is unlimited.

An ultimate wiki with every scrap of information imaginable is our dream. Becoming known as not just the best reality forum in the world, but the best source of reliable information is what we're aiming for. Now it's up to our great members, you guys, to make it happen!

So get stuck in!



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Re: Reality Fan Wiki
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 12:51:03 PM »
Rob is currently working really hard to get a subforum for RFW set up, where you'll be able to learn more, post questions about the wiki and chat about particular articles. If you have any questions in the meantime, feel free to post here or PM!

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 06:19:06 PM »
Thanks to all who suggested this and to Rob and Dom for making it happen!

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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 08:07:17 PM »
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 11:18:27 PM »
A good start for the wiki would be to contact maf and use all his great recaps of the recent TAR seasons. They are very detailed and offer a lot more info than wikipedia.
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 11:23:29 PM »
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

i think some might confuse it with the real TAR, so I think it will be confusing to add them there

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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 11:24:21 PM »
I'l help out whenever I can.
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 11:44:41 PM »
A good start for the wiki would be to contact maf and use all his great recaps of the recent TAR seasons. They are very detailed and offer a lot more info than wikipedia.


Also, there is a lot of info (though not sure if reliable) here:

http://amazingrace.wikia.com
http://survivor.wikia.com

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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 12:00:54 AM »
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

i think some might confuse it with the real TAR, so I think it will be confusing to add them there

I was thinking to add (Fantasy Game) at the end, ie Ovalorange's The Amazing Race Australia (Fantasy Game), because that would keep it relatively uncluttered. And it's still under the realms of RFF. But let's see what the mods think.
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 04:01:21 AM »
Congratulations Dom!! This is a wonderful addition to RFF and it will be exciting to see it grow!! I know you and our awesome team of contributors can make this happen! And you are perfect choice to make this happen!

Maf's recaps would be a great addition!
 
Just wondering: Can we move our endless Fantasy Game wikia pages over there?

My own thought would be that it would be best to keep the fantasy game board info separate for now. I would hope that this will become the "go to" place for reality TV answers and mixing reality with fantasy could prove confusing to some.  But I am sure Dom amd Rob will have the answer!
 
Looking forward to seeing this grow!  :hearts:

 
 





 
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 04:41:19 AM »
Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 05:13:59 AM »
Thanks Peach! With regards to the fantasy games, one solution would be to introduce a prefix of 'RFF:'. Anything that refers to activity on RFF could be preceded with RFF: like 'RFF:Amazing Race Fantasy Game'. That way, these pages could be kept separate. What do you guys think?

Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)

Good question! What do you reckon would be a good solution? I don't see any reason we couldn't have pages for individuals as well as teams (so one for 'Rob Mariano' etc), even those that were only part of a team in the Amazing Race. The more pages the merrier! :)

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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, 05:47:34 AM »
I made the season 13 general page and it was so much easier than I thought thanks to Dom's templates. The only thing I couldn't do is add in the external link to the website... apparently I don't know what a cat is  :lol3:


Thanks Dom and Rob for doing this, I've always wanted a place with such indepth knowledge of the shows. Let me know if I can help with anything in particular you need!  :hearts:


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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 06:12:53 AM »
Thanks Peach! With regards to the fantasy games, one solution would be to introduce a prefix of 'RFF:'. Anything that refers to activity on RFF could be preceded with RFF: like 'RFF:Amazing Race Fantasy Game'. That way, these pages could be kept separate. What do you guys think?

Quick question.

What do we do for people/teams who were on multiple shows (Rob and Amber, Brendan and Rache, ect)

Good question! What do you reckon would be a good solution? I don't see any reason we couldn't have pages for individuals as well as teams (so one for 'Rob Mariano' etc), even those that were only part of a team in the Amazing Race. The more pages the merrier! :)
I am thinking that we don't have fantasy races ect

Thanks for answering my question
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 06:31:57 AM »
Question: why are screencaps of the episodes not allowed?

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2013, 07:20:28 AM »
Wow. There's a lot of work to do. *rubs hands together*

And I really like the new format. It gives a lot more information than Wikipedia does.  :luvya:
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 07:31:12 AM »
Wow. There's a lot of work to do. *rubs hands together*

And I really like the new format. It gives a lot more information than Wikipedia does.  :luvya:

Glad you're enjoying it Airlinesguy! If you have any suggestions on how it could be even better, let us know!

Question: why are screencaps of the episodes not allowed?

Well, I wasn't sure what to do on that front, so if anyone has any experience in this field, let us know! I figured that the actual TV show itself is copyrighted material. Press released images are by definition, fine to distribute and use, but I'd imagine using copyrighted material in any form might get us into trouble..

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 07:36:15 AM »
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(

And oh, added the TAR 18 Leg 01 page! I'm sure there might be mistakes, so be sure to correct it if you see one! :)

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 08:39:17 AM »
Finished TAR1 (haven't had time to beautify it, that's after some good sleep), and I wonder: What is with all the cats?
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 09:18:42 AM »
Finished TAR1 (haven't had time to beautify it, that's after some good sleep), and I wonder: What is with all the cats?

Hmm.. That should only be for the one time when you sign up. Do you see the cats at other times as well?

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 12:22:38 PM »
Finished TAR1 (haven't had time to beautify it, that's after some good sleep), and I wonder: What is with all the cats?

Hmm.. That should only be for the one time when you sign up. Do you see the cats at other times as well?

Yes I do lol!
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Re: Welcome!
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 01:41:17 PM »
How about now?

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 01:55:43 PM »
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(

And oh, added the TAR 18 Leg 01 page! I'm sure there might be mistakes, so be sure to correct it if you see one! :)

I definitely agree. And GREAT job on the S18 Leg 1 page, it looks perfect already!

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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2013, 04:02:40 PM »
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(

And oh, added the TAR 18 Leg 01 page! I'm sure there might be mistakes, so be sure to correct it if you see one! :)

I definitely agree. And GREAT job on the S18 Leg 1 page, it looks perfect already!

For copyright we would need to use it under fair use. So if we are describing how the teams posed it might work under fair use.

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2013, 01:17:41 AM »

 :hello2:  Hi all..! just join forces on this great invention  :hrt:

I am curiously editing a page (TAR 21 Main Page) which still has some of TAR 13 template in it... but I'm working on it now as best as I could  :<3

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2013, 01:26:25 PM »
A HUUUUUGE thank you to everyone who has helped out so far! It's really starting to take shape and you're all proving that you're very good at this wiki stuff!

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2013, 04:30:32 PM »
Good job Dom and Rob! I'll need time to get to it and see what I can help with. :tup:
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2013, 11:10:52 PM »
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)
TARAU/NZ: Elizabeth & Todd :(, Tyson & Sally, Cat & Jessie
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2013, 11:29:50 PM »
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.
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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2013, 11:44:57 PM »
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.

I was thinking at the bottom of the related page but a separate trivia page could also work.
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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2013, 01:24:44 AM »
I was thinking on each page we could have a trivia fact about the contents of the page.

Ie TAR 21 had the most roadblocks with 14 (1st/last legs had 2 each + 1 every other leg)

Maybe we could have a seperate trivia page?

I think the trivia might clutter up the main season pages if there's too much of it.

I was thinking at the bottom of the related page but a separate trivia page could also work.

Agreed, a separate page would be better. A whole page devoted to trivia <3

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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2013, 04:31:00 PM »
I'm working on James and Abba's page , now!  :wohoo:
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2013, 12:29:37 AM »
Finished James & Abba's page! Can someone take a look to see if i had mess up or anything like that? Thanks!  :hearts:
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2013, 12:23:52 PM »
Wow, haven't looked at the actual wiki yet, but I'm liking the sound of this idea. :yess:

I will try to do some contributing when time allows. :tup:

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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2013, 02:27:42 PM »
Thank you Peach for reviewing my page! I think we're all right now , heee
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2013, 10:39:24 AM »
I created an account but I don't think I'll be using it much. :oh

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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2013, 10:47:44 AM »
Finished James & Abba's page! Can someone take a look to see if i had mess up or anything like that? Thanks!  :hearts:

I added this part in. :)

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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2013, 10:48:41 AM »
Actually I hate creating pages up from scratch, so if anyone wants me to add/edit your wiki page with more info with my "abundant" TAR knowledge, just drop me a PM with the link and i'll be glad to do it! ;)

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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2013, 11:21:53 AM »
I did not think of that. Good job , Joab!! Thank you!!  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2013, 06:36:44 PM »
Updated the Indonesia page with summaries of Leg 3 and 4 for Season 21 and created the Malawi page, still needs some work on it (which is beyond my scope for Wiki editing at the moment) :lol:
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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2013, 04:31:46 AM »
Updated the Indonesia page with summaries of Leg 3 and 4 for Season 21 and created the Malawi page, still needs some work on it (which is beyond my scope for Wiki editing at the moment) :lol:

Thanks for your hard work, your edits look really great!

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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2013, 12:22:50 PM »
Made Rob & Kelley and Amy & Daniel , can somebody take a look at it?
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« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2013, 03:56:17 PM »

instead of putting them all on this thread, how if Dom create a new thread titled "RFW Logs and Updates" where we can regularly report back to this headquarter about what we're doing and updating, maybe make a template form such as date, page(s) updated, update explanation, etc..etc..

just my 50 cents.. :js:


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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2013, 04:01:13 PM »
I hope we can find a way to use those images (because they do add more information and material, example: pitstop greeters), but yeah I believe they are protected under copyright :(


about this matter, so we cannot upload an image/screenshot from any scenes in the episode?

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« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2013, 04:17:28 PM »
Can I ask, for each page for a country, do we include leg details from international versions? I'm currently doing the page for Turkey and was wondering whether to include the legs from the Australian version?
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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2013, 05:54:31 PM »

.... I am curiously editing a page (TAR 21 Main Page)....



Did some update on TAR 21 Leg 1 page, but the result board still with TAR 19 template, need help to change the placement and description, thanks so much  :<3

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« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2013, 06:04:26 PM »
Starting the page for Argentina.
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2013, 06:08:16 PM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.
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« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2013, 10:42:22 PM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

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« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2013, 11:26:57 PM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

You can leave it on the talk page of the image. You can also leave a note on the Amazing Race 10, 11 etc. articles saying you have upload the cast photos.
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2013, 01:30:25 AM »
There is a very useful page here: http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges which I like to use to check out what everyone's working on!

about this matter, so we cannot upload an image/screenshot from any scenes in the episode?

Probably safest not to for now..

Can I ask, for each page for a country, do we include leg details from international versions? I'm currently doing the page for Turkey and was wondering whether to include the legs from the Australian version?

Yeah you can definitely include international versions! Check out http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Indonesia to see how it's been done before.

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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2013, 06:55:28 AM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?

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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2013, 01:05:41 PM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?

I doubt it very much. However, cast photos are actually released by CBS to the press, so assuming they're not being used for commercial gain, they can be used freely.

Screencaps are a direct derivative of the copyrighted TV show, so that will almost certainly not be allowed.


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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2013, 03:11:09 PM »
Remember that CBS also releases about 10-15 caps themselves of each episode as a press release and then more post-episode...all of thse should be fine to use if properly credited.
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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2013, 03:45:11 PM »
Remember that CBS also releases about 10-15 caps themselves of each episode as a press release and then more post-episode...all of thse should be fine to use if properly credited.

Very good point Peach, thanks! It'll be tough to track those down for the older seasons though..

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« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2013, 12:11:22 PM »
I know somewhere they still have the CBS websites for the old seasons of TAR.... it's somewhere... gotta find it!

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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2013, 03:49:49 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2013, 11:50:52 PM »
CBS Websites have http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/season/13/episodes/ Season 13 onwards....

Let's see if I can find the older sites.


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« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2013, 06:09:15 AM »
I think they changed the old links, I have this somewhere...will look later!
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« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2013, 10:06:21 PM »
This is simply amazing. I hope I can help in the future. Thank you so much, Dom and Rob!

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« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2013, 01:01:21 PM »
This looks like a great idea. Good work everyone!
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« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2013, 01:27:39 PM »
This looks like a great idea. Good work everyone!

Thanks for the support guys! It'll take a lot of time to fill in all the past events, but here's hoping everyone's ready to get stuck in with the upcoming Survivor and Amazing Race seasons!!

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« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2013, 06:13:27 PM »
Instead of reporting here try to use the talk pages of the respective article and users. Its much easier.

Where would be a good place to report images uploaded? I uploaded cast photos for Seasons 10-18 and am not sure where else I could report it besides here.

Is it legal to upload copyrighted material?

A lot of things uploaded on the internet are in copyright violation but it is nearly impossible to enforce. Some sites (especially those owned by Google) encourage civil disobedience in this area by giving a portion of the ad revenue from the page to the copyright holder. In effect this bribes them not to press charges so the law is circumvented.
I think other sites like Wikipedia don't allow copyrighted material but that is probably because they are not funded by ad revenue.

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« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2013, 05:58:39 AM »
I've touched up the TAR5 page, and created TAR6 and 7, and also majorly reworked 8. Tell me what you think. :)
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« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2013, 05:00:57 PM »
Ooh, I didn't know you had a wiki. Coooool

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Let's see how I can help out here...

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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2013, 09:02:04 AM »
Good job to all that have edited <3
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