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AR22 Transportation
« on: November 03, 2012, 12:00:27 PM »
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 08:12:38 PM »
Next Destination appears to be:


Papeete, Tahiti!

Via AIr France and Air Tahiti.
 
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TN101  LAX11.30PM   PPT06.05AM

AF76    LAX00.30AM   PPT06.45AM
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 01:41:40 AM »
TN101 is scheduled to depart in less than 3 minutes.

AF76 is to depart in less than 50 minutes.
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 01:50:42 AM »
It does look like the only way out of French Polynesia the night of the 14th and over the course of the 15th is back to Los Angeles or onwards via the Cook Islands to Auckland (in concurrence with Kandace)!

The flights are:
VT 35 from Papeetee to Rarotonga: 15 1220-15 1450
NZ 45 from Rarotonga to Auckland: 15 1730-16 2050
(also possible LA 801 from Auckland to Sydney 17 0605-17 0745)

And an early escape for Phil:
SB 601 from Papeetee to Noumea: 14 1730-15 2050
SB 140 from Noumea to Sydney, 16 0815-16 1130
(also possible SB 880 from Noumea to Tokyo Osaka 16 0145-16 0845)

And if in the unlikely case there are two legs in Tahiti (taking up the 14th and 15th) there are direct flights for the teams to Auckland and Tokyo on the early morning of the 16th.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 02:29:12 AM by Neobie »
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 02:02:25 AM »
TN101 just took off at 2357 local time.


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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 02:11:13 AM »
It does look like the only way out of French Polynesia the night of the 14th and over the course of the 15th is back to Los Angeles or onwards via the Cook Islands to Auckland (in concurrence with Kandace)!

The flights are:
VT 35 from Papeetee to Rarotonga: 15 1220-15 1450
NZ 45 from Rarotonga to Auckland: 15 1730-16 2050
(and also possibly LA 801 from Auckland to Sydney 17 0605-17 0745)

And an early escape for Phil:
SB 601 from Papeetee to Noumea: 14 1730-15 2050
SB 140 from Noumea to Sydney, 16 0815-16 1130
(also possible SB 880 from Noumea to Tokyo 16 0145-16 0845)

The flight path connecting in Rarotonga could be his escape? Then have teams arrive in AKL early AM the 17th..

Theres also a way to go to Osaka via Noumea that lands 8:45AM the 16th in Osaka, but TAR20 just visited it too..

but there is also a flight from Tahiti thats direct to Tokyo that arrives 1:35PM the 17th, but thats also a stretch(but could have Phil & Prod. connect through Osaka to Tokyo etc)
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 03:14:15 AM »
AF76's departure was delayed by 31 minutes. Not good for teams on board.

New ETA into PPT is 0713.


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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 03:16:25 AM »
TN101 arriving into PPT at ETA 0602

AF76 arriving into PPT at ETA 0656
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 09:08:02 AM by AmazingRace »
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 10:12:51 AM »
Am I missing something here? Like when were teams spotted in LAX that leads to the conclusion they are on their way to Tahiti? I would expect Tahiti to be the last leg of a west-to-east race instead of the first leg of an east-to-west race.

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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 10:22:04 AM »
Apskip, you are missing a thread or two.   I spotted them at LAX and heard them say they are going to Tahiti and saw half of them lined up to buy tickets to Papeete from Air Tahiti Nui and saw half of them buying tickets at Air France.
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 10:38:08 AM »
Tahiti is in the same time zone as Hawaii, two hours behind the Pacific time zone and one hour ahead of where Tonga, Fiji and American Samoa lie. Any westward flight out past those 3 islands will cross the International Date Line and result in the immediate addition of one day to the clock.
 

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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 10:47:53 AM »
So when they LEAVE there we need to add a day?
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2012, 11:08:06 AM »
if they head west, then yes :)

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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2012, 11:11:06 AM »
So when they LEAVE there we need to add a day?

A traveler crossing the International Date Line eastbound subtracts one day, or 24 hours, so that the calendar date to the west of the line is repeated. Crossing the IDL westbound results in 24 hours being added, advancing the calendar date by one day.

So that furthers the Japan/NZ Leg 2 idea, lol.
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2012, 11:13:08 AM »
So when they LEAVE there we need to add a day?

A traveler crossing the International Date Line eastbound subtracts one day, or 24 hours, so that the calendar date to the west of the line is repeated. Crossing the IDL westbound results in 24 hours being added, advancing the calendar date by one day.

So that furthers the Japan/NZ Leg 2 idea, lol.

So they will be in Japan/NZ on 16th November local time? I am a little confused here.

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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2012, 11:40:03 AM »
Assuming just one leg in Tahiti:

13 Nov: Los Angeles, evening flight to Tahiti
14 Nov: Arrive Tahiti in the morning, have a leg, Pit Stop
15 Nov: Sit around waiting for flights, then fly out in the afternoon
16 Nov: BAM! Disappears due to the Intl Dateline
17 Nov: Arrive in Auckland in the morning (and onwards to another flight if need be)

Japan doesn't work unless they waste an extra day in Tahiti.

Could a savvy team figure this out and try to book tickets to Auckland during Leg 1 with their credit card? :)
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 02:37:42 AM »
Flights to Bora Bora to follow up on the sighting there..

•Air Tahiti 490 DEP 8:45AM ARR 9:35AM
•Air Tahiti 402 DEP 9:00AM ARR 9:50AM
•Air Tahiti 452 DEP 10:00AM ARR 10:50AM
•Air Tahiti 480 DEP 4:50PM ARR 5:30PM (unlikely unless its scheduled after tasks in Papeete)

If they are flying straight to Bora Bora, they likely split up the teams on either of the first 3 flights.

Then Bora Bora has no international flights, so they are to fly back to Tahiti to fly out to the next leg.
I'll just go with the 5PM Flights
•Air Tahiti 411 DEP 5:25PM ARR 6:15PM
•Air Tahiti 480 DEP 5:50PM ARR 6:40PM
•Air Tahiti 305 DEP 7:05PM ARR 7:50PM

Which works just fine for the speculated production(or teams?) flight that connects in Cook Islands leaving the 15th

Interesting to note how to get to Bora Bora mainland from wiki travel...
The airport is located on a small motu (islet) north of the main island. Transfer to the main island or to accommodations located on other motus is done by boat. The major accommodations have counters at the airport. For the accommodations located on the main island, you will need to take the (free) ferry to Vaitape. From there, small buses will usually pick you up. Air Tahiti operates a free shuttle boat transfer from the airport to the main village, Vaitape, by "Bora Bora Navette".
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2012, 03:03:00 AM »
I wonder if they'll check in to the Pit Stop at Bora Bora and get transferred back to Papeete for the next leg?

Leaving Bora Bora on the evening of the 14th gets them into Auckland at 8.50pm on the 16th. Leaving the next evening, on the 15th, gets them in at 6.55am on the 17th. There are no exit options between these two.

Bora Bora leg takes place 14 Nov. Unless Phil has his own yacht he isn't going to make the flight via Noumea to Sydney.

Option 1
Earliest escape option for Phil
If teams are to take this, they would have to fly back to Papeete before the next leg starts
VT 305 from Bora Bora to Papeete: 14 1905-14 1955
Very long layover
VT 35 from Papeete to Rarotonga: 15 1220-15 1450
NZ 45 from Rarotonga to Auckland: 15 1730-16 2050

Option 2
Involves a very long wait in Bora Bora
Arrives in New Zealand at the right time to start a leg
VT 404 from Bora Bora to Papeete: 15 1845-15 1935
NZ 41 from Papeete to Auckland: 16 0200-17 0655
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2012, 12:00:39 AM »
Looking more and more like NZ is in the cards,thanks Neobie!! Happy for Phil, I think the publicity could be very helpful to any NZ areas still struggling to recover from the earthquakes....
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2012, 03:29:48 AM »
A quick revision to take into account of extra tasks and an extra day in Bora Bora, most likely hinting to a second leg:

Phil should be on:
VT 465 from Bora Bora to Papeete, 15 1830-15 1920 or
VT 404 from Bora Bora to Papeete, 15 1845-15 1935
NZ 41 from Papeete to Auckland, 16 0200-17 0655

And teams will be on:
VT 376 from Bora Bora to Papeete: 16 1925-16 2015, or any earlier flight
TN 101 from Papeete to Auckland: 17 0805-18 1255

13 Nov: Los Angeles, evening flight to Papeete
14 Nov: Morning flight to Bora Bora, LEG ONE
15 Nov: Bora Bora, LEG TWO
16 Nov: Afternoon flight to Papeete
17 Nov: Morning flight to Auckland, afternoon disappears due to Intl Date Line
18 Nov: Morning disappears due to Intl Date Line, afternoon arrive in Auckland, LEG THREE (maybe in Australia too?)
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2012, 05:56:56 AM »
Why I think Leg Three is more likely to be in New Zealand rather than Australia: daylight.

Here's the earliest time teams will arrive in each city.

(Hobart's sunset is at 8.10pm. Which means it's highly highly unlikely that it'd be Leg Three. Not to mention teams are still stuck in Bora Bora right now.)
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 10:58:54 AM »
If New Zealand is just one leg, I have a good feeling we might be able to catch Phil at Christchurch Airport tomorrow morning within a very narrow time range!

Here are the flights that Phil can take from Christchurch to Australia that give him some time to do stand-ups on 19 Nov:
Melbourne departs at 6.30am.
Brisbane departs at 6.30am.
Sydney departs at 6.35am and 7.00am.
Adelaide (via Auckland) departs at 6.00am.

The next direct flight arrives in Australia a little on the late side (around 4pm) for stand-ups. And if there are directs there's no good reason Phil would want to go through Auckland!
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2012, 01:04:47 PM »
I would like TWO NZ legs....
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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2012, 10:36:52 PM »
All the options out for Phil escape and Teams today:

Melbourne-Tullamarine Arrivals
(1st time scheduled - 2nd time estimated - gate no.)

19/11 QF136 AUCKLAND 15:40 15:16 8
19/11 NZ725 AUCKLAND 17:30 17:30 5
19/11 CA5136 AUCKLAND code share NZ725 17:30 17:30 5
19/11 CO4875 AUCKLAND code share NZ725 17:30 17:30 5
19/11 TG4832 AUCKLAND code share NZ725 17:30 17:30 5
19/11 UA9541 AUCKLAND code share NZ725 17:30 17:30 5

19/11 QF038 WELLINGTON 17:40 17:31 3
19/11 BA7589 WELLINGTON code share QF038 17:40 17:31 3
19/11 MU8126 WELLINGTON code share QF038 17:40 17:31 3

19/11 DJ063 CHRISTCHURCH 17:50 17:50 4
19/11 NZ7911 CHRISTCHURCH code share DJ063 17:5017:50 4
19/11 VA063 CHRISTCHURCH code share DJ063 17:50 17:50 4

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Re: AR22 Transportation
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2012, 05:09:13 AM »
Perth to Bali flights tonight:

1. Flight QZ8416 arr. Denpasar @ 19:55 DELAYED
2. Flight JQ111 arr. Denpasar @ 20:30


 

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