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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #450 on: December 06, 2012, 11:50:05 PM »
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).



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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #451 on: December 07, 2012, 12:01:51 AM »
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #452 on: December 07, 2012, 12:29:07 AM »
So two in Tahiti and one in Hanoi? Seems like the only way to make the route work, unless there's a false spoiler in here somewhere.

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #453 on: December 07, 2012, 12:33:40 AM »
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).

The last 3 times they went to Vietnam, they spent two legs there....

lets hope for a 13 leg race..the timing is right...and it feels right too!

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #454 on: December 07, 2012, 01:38:50 AM »
Then again, the last three times they went to mainland China they had two legs as well.


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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #455 on: December 07, 2012, 04:53:04 AM »
They also never had 2 legs in UK...

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #456 on: December 07, 2012, 08:36:34 AM »
They also never spent less than three legs in Asia when circumnavigating the globe...

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #457 on: December 07, 2012, 10:32:44 AM »
Botswana was visited in season 1, leg 2 as one half of a detour. It was during that part of that leg after teams left Songwe Village and before teams went back to Johannesburg to get flights to Paris.

I was going to say that too but noticed they did 2 legs in S7 as well.

I don't think any teams took that side of the detour though

Oh wow, I never noticed that part about TAR1. I only remembered Phil saying at the finish line that Rob and Brennan visited 8 countries. So in reality, it would have been a season featuring 11 countries, including South Africa (for just 1 clue), Botswana and and the Vatican. What a pity that teams didn't visit Botswana and the Vatican.

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #458 on: December 07, 2012, 11:50:18 AM »
While we wait to see if those tweets supposedly in D.C. pan out, I wanted to post a link to a news article that reports of rioting in Belfast, Northern Ireland even as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived there for a visit
http://news.yahoo.com/flag-riots-mar-hillary-clintons-visit-belfast-150434556.html
The incidents have been ongoing for a week, and the latest rioting started on Thursday night. We know that the show likes to avoid trouble spots whenever possible, and this may require us to assess the possibility of a last minute change in filming.

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #459 on: December 07, 2012, 11:58:04 AM »
D.C OMG  HELL YES


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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #460 on: December 07, 2012, 12:34:15 PM »
So after reading what georgiapeach said, does this mean the Hockey Players, Winnie and Cam, possibly the blondes (can't make out who is in that 2nd picture) aren't in the final 3?

Edit : or is that the roller derby girls?

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #461 on: December 07, 2012, 12:43:10 PM »
We'll have to sort all that out.

I just KNOW that decoys are used extensively IN the airports, so let's not jump to any team conclusions just yet.

Info from the locations will be more helpful.
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #462 on: December 07, 2012, 12:44:42 PM »
So after reading what georgiapeach said, does this mean the Hockey Players, Winnie and Cam, possibly the blondes (can't make out who is in that 2nd picture) aren't in the final 3?

Edit : or is that the roller derby girls?


WHY THE BlONDEs and Winnie AND CAM...?

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #463 on: December 07, 2012, 12:57:24 PM »
The two tweets in the live threads with locations (buildings) mentioned away from airports are not far from one another; teams could be using the D.C. Metro Subway system to get to that general area as well as taxis.
The taxi system in D.C. is flat rate depending on zone(s) for travel, so teams may be using either option, IMHO.
And clearly someone at WRP spent a lot of time with the Secret Service, the National Park Police, and the G.S.A. to pull this off. The physical security buffers are always there in downtown D.C.
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #464 on: December 07, 2012, 01:01:29 PM »
They are using taxis.
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #465 on: December 07, 2012, 01:15:14 PM »
Roller Derby defs decoy, look at the shoes.
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #466 on: December 07, 2012, 02:43:54 PM »
The two tweets in the live threads with locations (buildings) mentioned away from airports are not far from one another; teams could be using the D.C. Metro Subway system to get to that general area as well as taxis.
The taxi system in D.C. is flat rate depending on zone(s) for travel, so teams may be using either option, IMHO.
And clearly someone at WRP spent a lot of time with the Secret Service, the National Park Police, and the G.S.A. to pull this off. The physical security buffers are always there in downtown D.C.


It is not easy to use the DC Metro system to get from Dulles to downtown Washington DC. One alternative is the tri-modal Washingon Flyer limo to bus at West Falls Church in direction New Carrollton, then connect to subway there into DC. Another alternative is the 5A bus route that runs every 40 minutes and stops 34 minutes later in Rosslyn, where teams could get the Orange or Blue MARTA trains or 47 minutes later at D St. and 7th Avenue.
To me the simple answer is "take a taxi."
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #467 on: December 07, 2012, 02:51:00 PM »
apskip, I'm not referring to the trip from Dulles, but once in town; although the Metro system is currently building a subway extension out to and past Dulles airport along Virginia Route 7 (the "Silver Line.")

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #468 on: December 07, 2012, 03:28:25 PM »
Some spec,

I was told he saw 3 teams, The Tan Guy/GF , Beth/Mona, and Hockey. He said he DID see cameras, and one of them pushed him apparently.

But but but the pics show no cameras for Roller/Hockey.. so.. **Spec time

11/10th: Matt/Daniel & Jamil & Idries
9th: Green Muscle Shirt/GF

Other teams seen..
Connor/Dave: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Joey/Meghan: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Winnie/Cam: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Chuck/Wynona: Last seen going to Botswana
Jennifer/Caroline: Last seen going to Botswana(Seen in Edinburgh too possibly)
Tan Guy/Blonde Girl: Last seen going to Botswana(Seen in DC airport, possible F3)
Beth/Mona: 6th and up(Decoy in DC)
Anthony/Bates: 6th and up(Decoy in DC)

so I think that Connor/Dave and Joey/Meghan go before Europe(I think 8th/7th) and then we have a final 3 combo o Jennifer/Caroline, Chuck/Wynona, Winnie/Cam and Tan Guy/Blonde girl)


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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #469 on: December 07, 2012, 03:53:17 PM »
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #470 on: December 07, 2012, 03:56:55 PM »
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.

Well its mainly derived from this picture on the right  :cmaslol with his sunglasses tan 8)


but that was the team he said saw in IAD.
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #471 on: December 07, 2012, 04:07:16 PM »
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.

Well its mainly derived from this picture on the right  :cmaslol with his sunglasses tan 8)


but that was the team he said saw in IAD.

I know, and thats the weird thing. In the other two pictures we have of him he isn't tan. I guess we'll find out when the team is identified.

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« Reply #472 on: December 07, 2012, 04:28:53 PM »
They don't always have camera in airport for the finale,but probably by the taxis, we see in episodes all the time,
besides its the final episode, we don't really need scenes from the airport,its like Jen/Kisha BigEasy/Flightime all over again :cmas5 Hockey boys should be F3,Mona/Beth could be too

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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #473 on: December 07, 2012, 04:54:29 PM »
Okay so I'm *guessing* this is the leg layout

1. Bora Bora
2. Bora Bora
3. Christchurch
4. Bali
5. Vietnam
6. Botswana
7. Botswana
8. Switzerland
9. Germany
10. Northern Ireland
11. London
12. Washington DC

OR New Zealand/Bali is the return of the TBC leg and NZ/Bali is 1 leg, explains the NEL and no rest stop,a nd allows Vietnam to be 2 legs..
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #474 on: December 07, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »

OR New Zealand/Bali is the return of the TBC leg and NZ/Bali is 1 leg, explains the NEL and no rest stop,a nd allows Vietnam to be 2 legs..

quite possible...!   :cmas16


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