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TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:51:11 PM »
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Cindy and Ernie (season 19 WINNERS) will be hosting a discussion of tonight's premiere here!!
 
They'll start out with some impressions and commentary on tonight's episode and will stay to further discuss the episode and all the fun and drama!
 
Please join me in welcoming them to RFF and feel free to join in what we hope will be a lively discussion!
 
They are on Central Time so this may be later this evening... AFTER the show!
 
Former racers are particularly welcome to chime in too, we value your experience and input!!
 
Let's have some FUN!!!
 
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 08:06:13 PM »
Welcome Ernie & Cindy!! We look forward to hearing from you!  :hearts:
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 08:12:48 PM »
Ernie and Cindy!!!!! My favourite winners of all-time along with Kisha and Jen and Tyler and James :hrt: :<3 :hearts:

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 08:15:13 PM »
 :colors this is so cool

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 08:21:39 PM »
 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: YAY ERNIE AND CINDY!!!  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt: :wohoo: :wohoo:
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 08:29:44 PM »
 :hello2: 

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 08:33:00 PM »

Former racers are particularly welcome to chime in too, we value your experience and input!!   

Luke? :please:
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 09:50:02 PM »
What time are they coming? Because i wanna see them , and i have to sleep  :(
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 09:58:08 PM »
Later on sweetie, go to bed, lol!
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 10:35:42 PM »
Hi Everyone!!! We're so excited to be here  :hearts:

Hope everyone is doing great tonight :) We're excited to be part of this thread, so thank you to Peach for inviting us to host this discussion!!!

 :hello2: (the emoticons are soooo cute)

We watched tonight's episode with Brittany from this season. She is the SWEETEST girl you'll ever meet! and just soooo beautiful in person.  You'll love watching her this season.  James from Big Brother (if you watch the show) and Keisha winner of Season 18 was with us too!

We wanna know what you think of tonight's episode! Let's start with the $2 million dollar twist!!  Phil says at the starting line that the team to win the 1st leg of the race will now get the chance to double down and win $2 million in the final leg!  They didn't give an express pass out in tonight's episode.  My first thought was that it will be so tough for the team who wins tonight because the other teams might target them. Ryan & Abbie are definitely one of the strongest teams this season so they have a really good shot at the $2 Million!! 

Six teams, previous to this season, have won the first AND last leg:
Season 1: Rob & Brennan
Season 10: Tyler & James
Season 13: Nick & Starr
Season 15: Meghan & Cheyne
Season 19: Ernie & Cindy
Season 20: Rachel & Dave

So we know it can be done!  I like the new twist even though they didn't have it on our season! But I thought the teams would have been more competitive to go get that huge prize. Now if Ryan & Abbie don't win the final leg - they don't get any prize at all for this first leg  :'( which that stinks! 

What do you think? Do you like the new twist?

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 10:42:29 PM »
Hi Ernie , Hi Cindy!!  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

Personally i liked this new twist , but i think it should come together with the express pass. It's a bad idea to ....


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hand over a express pass on the second leg! why would they do that , really? to give Abbie and Ryan the chance to have 2 million dollars AND the express pass? NO!!!

BTW , i have a question for you guys :

If this twist had happened in Season 19 , do you think you would have still winned at all? Cause teams would definitly target you guys! (sure , you arrived FIRST at both double u-turns so it wouldn't really mattered) ...And because you wouldn't have other teams helping you... (which i don't think it would be a problem for you guys , except maybe in the Borobudur Roadblock)
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 10:45:11 PM »
 :hello2: Ernie & Cindy and  :bigwelcome to RFF! I really like the $2 million idea but I'd like that if Abby & Ryan get eliminated, Amy & Daniel would have the chance to win the $2 million.  And so on.

 :lol: I don't want the two million to go to waste.

And also a question from me: Did you ever consider U-Turning Andy & Tommy at the second Double U-Turn? (I'm not doubting your choice, you were there and we weren't).
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 10:47:54 PM »
It's hard to say whether we could have still won the final leg if we had this $2 million twist.  I don't know if we would have made any different decisions, since we did our best to make it through each leg anyway!  Much of the game is about luck too - and who knows what turn of events could happen differently!  Most of the teams didn't really help us out on our season.  Everyone was so friendly to each other but once we left the pit start, we knew we were racing against each other.  The Buddha challenge was so difficult. Ernie and Justin wanted to work together right away because we knew we weren't first (Andy/Tommy, Zach/Lawrence had already finished) and we knew we were still ahead of all the rest of the teams. When you finish in the middle of the pack, you may as well help each other out. In the end, it was Ernie who figured out the hand motions anyway so he may have been able to complete that challenge on his own.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 10:52:05 PM »
It's hard to say whether we could have still won the final leg if we had this $2 million twist.  I don't know if we would have made any different decisions, since we did our best to make it through each leg anyway!  Much of the game is about luck too - and who knows what turn of events could happen differently!  Most of the teams didn't really help us out on our season.  Everyone was so friendly to each other but once we left the pit start, we knew we were racing against each other.  The Buddha challenge was so difficult. Ernie and Justin wanted to work together right away because we knew we weren't first (Andy/Tommy, Zach/Lawrence had already finished) and we knew we were still ahead of all the rest of the teams. When you finish in the middle of the pack, you may as well help each other out. In the end, it was Ernie who figured out the hand motions anyway so he may have been able to complete that challenge on his own.

Duh , i forgot that Ernie was the one who lead that 4-people pack through the roadblock. I really think you would have won the 2 million bucks anyway! Thank you for anwsering!! :hrt: :<3
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 10:53:21 PM »
Hi Airlinesguy!

Oh that's a really interesting thought!!! To have the $2million get passed down... but then the team that wins the final leg only has to hope that they finished in higher rank than the other two teams running in the final, right?  I think the point of the $2million was to create suspense throughout the season, until Ryan & Abbie either win, or get eliminated!

As far as the U-Turn goes... we never wanted to use it  :groan:  The Malawi leg where we didn't use the U-Turn and then Andy & Tommy outran us on the beach was so devastating and our morale was crushed.  What wasn't shown was a big bike accident I had during the fish delivery roadblock. You can see the bruises on my legs in the Brussels episode. I had a really tough time running that day and just didn't have the steam in me for that final stretch.  Then the next leg was the exact same situation - we were in 1st place with a really strong team just minutes behind us. We know Bill is an awesome manual-car driver (we were not so lucky with our driving skills) so we needed to buy us some time. It was never about targeting a specific team to u-turn, it was just to help us get a moral victory so we could get our heads back in the game. In hindsight, I don't think I would have u-turned anyone so we could hopefully have won that leg fair & square.  But, it's a tool in the game for players to use and what's the point of tools if you don't use them?


:hello2: Ernie & Cindy and  :bigwelcome to RFF! I really like the $2 million idea but I'd like that if Abby & Ryan get eliminated, Amy & Daniel would have the chance to win the $2 million.  And so on.

 :lol: I don't want the two million to go to waste.

And also a question from me: Did you ever consider U-Turning Andy & Tommy at the second Double U-Turn? (I'm not doubting your choice, you were there and we weren't).

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 10:54:07 PM »
It's hard to say whether we could have still won the final leg if we had this $2 million twist.  I don't know if we would have made any different decisions, since we did our best to make it through each leg anyway!  Much of the game is about luck too - and who knows what turn of events could happen differently!  Most of the teams didn't really help us out on our season.  Everyone was so friendly to each other but once we left the pit start, we knew we were racing against each other.  The Buddha challenge was so difficult. Ernie and Justin wanted to work together right away because we knew we weren't first (Andy/Tommy, Zach/Lawrence had already finished) and we knew we were still ahead of all the rest of the teams. When you finish in the middle of the pack, you may as well help each other out. In the end, it was Ernie who figured out the hand motions anyway so he may have been able to complete that challenge on his own.

Duh , i forgot that Ernie was the one who lead that 4-people pack through the roadblock. I really think you would have won the 2 million bucks anyway! Thank you for anwsering!! :hrt: :<3

Aww you're so sweet! Let's just pretend that we got the double-down!!!  :yess:

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 10:56:35 PM »
Hey Ernie and Cindy!! How did you find Indonesia and do you think the teams will have a tough time there?

And just a personal question do you think Canada (specifically Toronto) would be a good destination for the race? :lol:

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2012, 10:56:59 PM »
Aaaaaaaah so happy to see you here, Ernie & Cindy! :hearts:

To be honest, I don't think it's that big of a twist. It doesn't really make a difference until the last leg, but it does put a bigger target on Abbie & Ryan.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on Amy & Daniel telling Abbie & Ryan the location of the woman with the abacus only to get passed during a foot race.

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2012, 11:02:11 PM »
Hi Airlinesguy!

Oh that's a really interesting thought!!! To have the $2million get passed down... but then the team that wins the final leg only has to hope that they finished in higher rank than the other two teams running in the final, right?  I think the point of the $2million was to create suspense throughout the season, until Ryan & Abbie either win, or get eliminated!

As far as the U-Turn goes... we never wanted to use it  :groan:  The Malawi leg where we didn't use the U-Turn and then Andy & Tommy outran us on the beach was so devastating and our morale was crushed.  What wasn't shown was a big bike accident I had during the fish delivery roadblock. You can see the bruises on my legs in the Brussels episode. I had a really tough time running that day and just didn't have the steam in me for that final stretch.  Then the next leg was the exact same situation - we were in 1st place with a really strong team just minutes behind us. We know Bill is an awesome manual-car driver (we were not so lucky with our driving skills) so we needed to buy us some time. It was never about targeting a specific team to u-turn, it was just to help us get a moral victory so we could get our heads back in the game. In hindsight, I don't think I would have u-turned anyone so we could hopefully have won that leg fair & square.  But, it's a tool in the game for players to use and what's the point of tools if you don't use them?


:hello2: Ernie & Cindy and  :bigwelcome to RFF! I really like the $2 million idea but I'd like that if Abby & Ryan get eliminated, Amy & Daniel would have the chance to win the $2 million.  And so on.

 :lol: I don't want the two million to go to waste.

And also a question from me: Did you ever consider U-Turning Andy & Tommy at the second Double U-Turn? (I'm not doubting your choice, you were there and we weren't).

Good point. And imagine how boring a season would be if nobody used U-Turns and Fast Forwards.  :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2012, 11:02:58 PM »
OK so what do you think about the teams this season?  The first episode is always so tough because there are 11 teams and the airtime gets divided among everyone, so you don't get to really know the teams too well.  We've had the chance to meet several racers in person, and chat via email with many of the other racers! This season is so great - such a diverse group.

Here are our initial thoughts... There are several strong teams that could make it far:
Ryan & Abbie came out of the gates strong. They are both physically very fit and intelligent so they could potentially do very well.  It'll be about staying mentally tough and having some good luck along the way.

Twinnies are so fun to watch already. They have such high energy & spirits.  Ernie says they have 'sailor mouths' and you can just read their tweets to realize this is true!

Jaymes & James are the typical alpha male team.  If they can work well together, they could get to the final three.

Brittany & Cait are tough gals. Don't be fooled by their beauty, both are very athletic and smart. I hope we get to watch them for awhile!

Amy & Daniel are amazing. we love their spirit and vibe. If they didn't help Ryan & Abbie with the abacus location, they probably could have been in first place. 

We didn't get too much of a chance to see all of the teams, so hopefully we will learn more in the next episode.  I love that they have Gary & Will on as the 'superfans', it's so fun to watch racers who LOVE the show for what the Amazing Race is all about!

Who do you love, who do you hate and who are you rooting for?

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 11:05:08 PM »
Thanks you two for being here!! :hearts:

I too would like to know...how do you cope with being the strong team with a target on your back? Did Abbie and Ryan just become the team to beat at all costs...or since they can't win the $2 million, will the other teams care??



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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 11:06:48 PM »
My favourites are the Chippendales, the Twinnies, and then everyone else close behind. :lol:

I think WRP did a great job casting this season, and I'll be looking forward to the rest of the season! I want more Twinnies quotes!  :lol3:
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 11:09:58 PM »
Favorites are James and Abba , and Gary and Will  :hearts: :luvya: :hearts: :luvya:

I like the blondes , too!!!

I think WRP did a bad job on the route for this Season...  :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 11:11:03 PM »
Indonesia is one of the greatest locations! It was such an interesting culture to learn about and the people were quite welcoming there. We had the best taxi driver - Heru - that we still rave about.  We wish to go back and visit at a more leisurely pace next time!!  For teams that haven't traveled to developing countries, it can be a tough place to navigate. The train stations are quite crowded and when you don't know the language, it can be difficult to communicate with the locals to get directions or any type of help. We did end up drawing pictures quite often in order to convey our urgency and that we were in a race!  Indonesia was one of my favorite places that we traveled to. There's so much culture!

Toronto is a great city! We love it there!  Cindy used to work in a building at Yonge & Shepphard! This was the first trip we took together - and the place we officially called ourselves 'boyfriend & girlfriend' so it's a very special place for us!  There's tons of things to do, you could have a great time in all of the small neighborhoods, or something in the historical buildings, and maybe the pit stop could be the CN tower!


Hey Ernie and Cindy!! How did you find Indonesia and do you think the teams will have a tough time there?

And just a personal question do you think Canada (specifically Toronto) would be a good destination for the race? :lol:

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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2012, 11:15:12 PM »
I am SURE Amy & Daniel must be KICKING themselves for telling Abbie & Ryan the location of the woman.  They literally were 30 seconds behind (I guess we'll see the real time difference at the start of the next leg).  It could have been them with the $2 Million chance!!! I think you could see on Amy's face that she was so disappointed, which is completely understandable.

In the beginning of the race, you just really don't know when to / when not to help others out. The first few legs of the race, we were helping other teams all the time. Whenever we had information, Cindy would tell anyone near us. Finally Ernie got so fed up with always sharing information and not many reciprocating, that we stopped helping others.  You just never know and those first few legs, you're just meeting people and you don't want them to have a bad impression of you, so you help them. But if we raced again, we probably wouldn't tell the other teams anything! Information is a huge advantage in the game!

Aaaaaaaah so happy to see you here, Ernie & Cindy! :hearts:

To be honest, I don't think it's that big of a twist. It doesn't really make a difference until the last leg, but it does put a bigger target on Abbie & Ryan.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on Amy & Daniel telling Abbie & Ryan the location of the woman with the abacus only to get passed during a foot race.

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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2012, 11:22:40 PM »
When we were racing and had won the 1st leg... and come in 1st in the second leg (later to get sent back to the orphanage), we thought we might have put a target on our back.  But I honestly think that right away, you assess the other teams and see who is physically strong and mark them a 'threat.' As you get to learn more about the teams, you start to glean the ones that are physically strong AND intelligent (both book smart and street smart), and these are a 'bigger threat'.  Now, if they ALSO get good luck - well... these are the teams you look out for!

When you're at the head of the pack, you always feel like there is a target on your back, even if you're not winning every leg. You just have to play a strong game, race against the course, and hope that you finish the course faster than any of the other teams still there. Ryan & Abbie might have a target on their back - but I think they would have raced tough even if they hadn't won the first leg. 

As for the other teams - they're still racing hard because $1 Million is still a million more little green things they didn't have before the race.  It's still a pretty solid incentive to win that final leg!

Thanks you two for being here!! :hearts:

I too would like to know...how do you cope with being the strong team with a target on your back? Did Abbie and Ryan just become the team to beat at all costs...or since they can't win the $2 million, will the other teams care??

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« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2012, 11:24:19 PM »
WRP did an AWESOME job casting this season. So many unique characters. We wonder sometimes if they went out to look for the lumberjacks because Marcus kept calling Andy/Tommy "lumberjacks" during our season!!

Everyone's character is so unique that this will be a wonderful dynamic among the teams.


My favourites are the Chippendales, the Twinnies, and then everyone else close behind. :lol:

I think WRP did a great job casting this season, and I'll be looking forward to the rest of the season! I want more Twinnies quotes!  :lol3:

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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2012, 11:25:51 PM »
Why do you think they did a bad job on the route? Where would you rather seem them go??

I like the rockers too! I'm sure we will see a good amount of them during this season. Gary & Will are so silly! They have the funniest intro with all their tapes!

Favorites are James and Abba , and Gary and Will  :hearts: :luvya: :hearts: :luvya:

I like the blondes , too!!!

I think WRP did a bad job on the route for this Season...  :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2012, 11:30:04 PM »
I know I shouldn't be reading this thread because I still haven't watched this episode... :lol:

So, I'm just randomly posting here to say that I love Ernie and Cindy! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2012, 11:30:43 PM »
Well , if you see from our spoilers here , there is no
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again (which are too recent) . I was hoping for new things...new countries. But let's see how good are the tasks , before saying it all...

I think it's too standard and
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. But that's just my opinion , hee  :lol: :lol:

And about the rockers , they went bad on the navigation , it could be a first place... :(
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2012, 11:34:17 PM »
I know I shouldn't be reading this thread because I still haven't watched this episode... :lol:

So, I'm just randomly posting here to say that I love Ernie and Cindy! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

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AWWWW Thank you so much for stopping by and saying hi!!!   :ghug:  :hearts: :hearts:

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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2012, 11:35:40 PM »
Well , if you see from our spoilers here , there is no
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africa
and no
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new countries
, and we have China and
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Russia/Netherlands/Indonesia
again (which are too recent) . I was hoping for new things...new countries. But let's see how good are the tasks , before saying it all...

I think it's too standard and
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europe based
. But that's just my opinion , hee  :lol: :lol:

And about the rockers , they went bad on the navigation , it could be a first place... :(

Oh... yeah I forgot about the spoiler thing!  I would love to see Bhutan or Nepal... or Laos... there are still so many more countries to visit!!!!

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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2012, 11:38:31 PM »
Well , if you see from our spoilers here , there is no
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africa
and no
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new countries
, and we have China and
Show content
Russia/Netherlands/Indonesia
again (which are too recent) . I was hoping for new things...new countries. But let's see how good are the tasks , before saying it all...

I think it's too standard and
Show content
europe based
. But that's just my opinion , hee  :lol: :lol:

And about the rockers , they went bad on the navigation , it could be a first place... :(

Oh... yeah I forgot about the spoiler thing!  I would love to see Bhutan or Nepal... or Laos... there are still so many more countries to visit!!!!

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! If they LOOOVE asia so much , and have to do at least 3 legs there by season , why to not go to Mongolia , Bhutan , Nepal , Myanmar , Phillipines...?
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2012, 11:42:44 PM »
What about locations , guys , what was your favorite place to Race?
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2012, 11:47:00 PM »

We really loved many of the places that we raced and were just so fortunate to get the opportunity to see the world this way!

Ernie's favorite place was Copenhagen. We were finally able to drive on our own and we could see the beautiful countryside. Everyone was so friendly and helpful. The main town was quaint and cobblestones, it was all just so beautiful.

Cindy loved getting to see Taiwan where her parents were raised. We were actually racing through the city when my brother was living in TW - and it was his birthday!! So we were there in spirit! Another favorite place was Indonesia. We love the temples (our favorites are in Siem Reap, Cambodia - we're going again in a few weeks) and Borobudur was just so amazing to get to see up close and personal.  Hoping to get back there soon!

What about locations , guys , what was your favorite place to Race?

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2012, 11:49:53 PM »
We didn't talk about the 2 roadblock set-up yet!  This season started with just 2 roadblocks, no detours.  Usually each episode has 1 roadblock and 1 detour.  On our season, we had 1 roadblock but then a task (the dragon boat racing).  I guess with so many teams, it's better to focus on introducing us to the teams rather than having to explain the detour.  The last time they offered a detour on leg 1 was Season 18, but everyone picked the same task. Only Amanda & Kris had to do the other detour since they automatically were given a u-turn because they completed the 1st task last.

Do you like this 2 Roadblock format better than the Roadblock-Detour combo? At least for the first episode...

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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2012, 11:50:51 PM »
I loved it! I think we shouldn't have a Detour on the first leg , really. But it shouldn't be ONLY 1 roadblock too! So it was perfect to get the race started!!

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And my last question cause it's already 2 AM here in Brazil  :lol: :lol: :lol: :

We had some unaired things in the Indonesia leg , and in the Taipei leg...could you tell us a little bit about the unaired things on the race?

(check the anwser tomorrow i guess  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: good night y'all!!! and thanks to cindy and ernie for anwsering my thousand questions  :lol: :lol: :lol:  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:)
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2012, 11:54:41 PM »
I wonder if a Detour-RB was just too time consuming to show? I like the RB-RB format, I just wish that we had more time to see everything.

What do you all think about eating tasks in general?? Even culturally semi-relevant ones?
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2012, 11:57:03 PM »
I don't mind the 2 roadblocks instead of 1 roadblock and 1 detour. I just thought the episode should have been longer because everything felt rushed, even more than usual for first episodes. I guess the editing was building up to the exciting pit stop finish.

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2012, 11:57:34 PM »
Hi Ernie & Cindy!  :waves:

I just LOVE how you guys are still involved in the TAR community. I always love reading your tweets and opinions on the current race! Always nice to see fans of the show win it and still enjoy their experience even after the show has aired!! Thank you guys for sharing your experience of being on the race with us all! Ernie and Cindy love :hrt:


My question for you guys: With multiple teams walking straight past the lady with the abacus this leg, I wondered if it's actually quite difficult to see and find the clueboxes/Phil/cluegivers as they make it appear really obvious on TV. I know when you're racing hard you're tired and hungry etc, so does that come into play a lot when you're paying attention to detail? On your season, did you see very many markers around the locations and clues?? :) Sorry to bombard you guys with so much, but I just adore you two! :lol:

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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2012, 11:57:48 PM »
Just dawned on me...AMy/Daniel lost the first place by seconds, AND Rob/Sheila lost the leg by seconds. I don't remember a race with two closer finishes!
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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2012, 12:04:17 AM »
I agree, the 2-roadblock set up was great for time and allowing us to focus on meeting the teams.

In our Taiwan leg, there was an additional task where we had to get the next clue from the mall where Kaylani had to bungee jump. That was really the only un-aired thing.  It was a small part of the leg and didn't really add much value to the storyline so it was cut.

In Indonesia, it was all crazy! The pit stop was particularly chaotic. We checked in first and it was awhile before anyone realized we still had the orphanage money!  Cindy cried a lot on the run back to the orphanage and she's happy they didn't show that, hahah.  It would have been embarrassing! We just really thought we were going to get eliminated for not giving all of our money and to be first to check in and now fear elimination, it was emotional overload!  When we were running back to the orphanage, we saw so many teams going to check in so we thought for sure we were going to get eliminated. Since we were the first team Phil had to send back, we didn't realize so many other teams would also be coming back.  It's still hard for us to wrap our heads around what really happened in that leg. We only know the things that we personally experienced - but we have heard stories from other racers too.  And it was SO hot that day. Cindy was wearing Ski Pants because in the Muslim country, you can't wear tight spandexy pants. But she only brought 1 other pair of pants and it was too hot to run in them.

Thank you for watching from Brazil!!!  Let's hope the race goes back there soon!

I loved it! I think we shouldn't have a Detour on the first leg , really. But it shouldn't be ONLY 1 roadblock too! So it was perfect to get the race started!!

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And my last question cause it's already 2 AM here in Brazil  :lol: :lol: :lol: :

We had some unaired things in the Indonesia leg , and in the Taipei leg...could you tell us a little bit about the unaired things on the race?

(check the anwser tomorrow i guess  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: good night y'all!!! and thanks to cindy and ernie for anwsering my thousand questions  :lol: :lol: :lol:  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:)

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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2012, 12:07:37 AM »
I wonder if a Detour-RB was just too time consuming to show? I like the RB-RB format, I just wish that we had more time to see everything.

What do you all think about eating tasks in general?? Even culturally semi-relevant ones?

The eating tasks are always so disgusting. Cindy's family is from China so she has been presented with some really gross things to eat, but once you get over the thought that 'you're not supposed to eat this', it's usually not too bad.  Except once she ate duck tongues in soup and those were gross because they still looked like a tongue.

The eating challenge that is the most memorable was when they ate the cow lips. Which season was that again? There were 2 teams doing the challenge together because of the intersection, and they still didn't finish first.  The cow lips were hairy and still had teeth in them! ewwblechewewe

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2012, 12:10:14 AM »
Well , if you see from our spoilers here , there is no
Show content
africa
and no
Show content
new countries
, and we have China and
Show content
Russia/Netherlands/Indonesia
again (which are too recent) . I was hoping for new things...new countries. But let's see how good are the tasks , before saying it all...

I think it's too standard and
Show content
europe based
. But that's just my opinion , hee  :lol: :lol:

And about the rockers , they went bad on the navigation , it could be a first place... :(

Oh... yeah I forgot about the spoiler thing!  I would love to see Bhutan or Nepal... or Laos... there are still so many more countries to visit!!!!

Laos was supposed to be the fifth leg on your guys season!

Its so surreal speaking to the winners of the Amazing Race!  :-[
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2012, 12:16:04 AM »
I wonder if a Detour-RB was just too time consuming to show? I like the RB-RB format, I just wish that we had more time to see everything.

What do you all think about eating tasks in general?? Even culturally semi-relevant ones?

The eating tasks are always so disgusting. Cindy's family is from China so she has been presented with some really gross things to eat, but once you get over the thought that 'you're not supposed to eat this', it's usually not too bad.  Except once she ate duck tongues in soup and those were gross because they still looked like a tongue.

The eating challenge that is the most memorable was when they ate the cow lips. Which season was that again? There were 2 teams doing the challenge together because of the intersection, and they still didn't finish first.  The cow lips were hairy and still had teeth in them! ewwblechewewe

It was in Season 10.  :tup: And Dustin & Kandice  bet the Fast Forwarded people.  :conf:
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2012, 12:17:45 AM »
Hi There! Thank you SO much for following us on twitter (@Ernie_Halvo @CindyCHalvo) and keeping in touch!!! We loved our experience on the show and are so thankful for the opportunity.  After actually running, we have such a new found appreciation about the entire production. You cannot even imagine the number of people involved and the intensity of the logistics surrounding the Race.  It is really a world-class show with the best production crew you could find.

Sometimes the clues are obvious but sometimes they are really obscure! In this leg, we heard the abacus lady was extremely difficult to find. The area where teams were searching stretched for miles and miles, and teams would run back and forth across the stretch and pass her up multiple times.  The only identification was the red umbrella and the red/yellow color scheme of her clothes, and the abacus.  It must have been hard to know what to even look for. Some of the teams didn't know what an abacus was!  It's funny, because Cindy grew up with an abacus that her mom used, lol.

On our season, sometimes the clues were really easy and we knew right away. When the clue box is around, that's the easiest way to find it. We only saw that clue box 3 times - in Malawi in the stadium, in Hamburg at the train station and in Atlanta at the flight school.  They found much more creative ways to hide the clues! The toughest clue for us was the first one in Taiwan.  It was so hard to know to look at the digital display with red and yellow balloons on it! good thing the rest of the season's clues weren't as difficult or most of us would still be lost somewhere in a foreign country!

It's so easy to watch from our sofas and think "why don't they see her! She's sitting right there!" but in reality, there's no camera zoomed in on her, pointing out the exact location to you. You have the whole area to look around and when you're frantic or panicking, your thinking isn't clear. Plus, the racers are tired/jet lagged from the long trip, and probably hungry since all they ate was airplane food... and well... Fallopian tubes (ew).

Thank you again for watching and for asking questions!!!

Hi Ernie & Cindy!  :waves:

I just LOVE how you guys are still involved in the TAR community. I always love reading your tweets and opinions on the current race! Always nice to see fans of the show win it and still enjoy their experience even after the show has aired!! Thank you guys for sharing your experience of being on the race with us all! Ernie and Cindy love :hrt:


My question for you guys: With multiple teams walking straight past the lady with the abacus this leg, I wondered if it's actually quite difficult to see and find the clueboxes/Phil/cluegivers as they make it appear really obvious on TV. I know when you're racing hard you're tired and hungry etc, so does that come into play a lot when you're paying attention to detail? On your season, did you see very many markers around the locations and clues?? :) Sorry to bombard you guys with so much, but I just adore you two! :lol:

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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2012, 12:19:27 AM »
oh my gosh! we heard that we were supposed to go to Laos! But, we can't complain because maybe if we went to Laos, we could have gotten eliminated that leg!

Thank you for watching - you're so sweet!

Well , if you see from our spoilers here , there is no
Show content
africa
and no
Show content
new countries
, and we have China and
Show content
Russia/Netherlands/Indonesia
again (which are too recent) . I was hoping for new things...new countries. But let's see how good are the tasks , before saying it all...

I think it's too standard and
Show content
europe based
. But that's just my opinion , hee  :lol: :lol:

And about the rockers , they went bad on the navigation , it could be a first place... :(

Oh... yeah I forgot about the spoiler thing!  I would love to see Bhutan or Nepal... or Laos... there are still so many more countries to visit!!!!

Laos was supposed to be the fifth leg on your guys season!

Its so surreal speaking to the winners of the Amazing Race!  :-[

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2012, 12:21:03 AM »
SECONDS!!!  That was a VERY close 1st and last!  If the chippendales hadn't seen where the pit stop was (when they went there on accident with Brittany & Cait), I bet Rob & Shelia would have made it. The season would be so different!  But I LOVE how everything plays out!

Just dawned on me...AMy/Daniel lost the first place by seconds, AND Rob/Sheila lost the leg by seconds. I don't remember a race with two closer finishes!

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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2012, 12:22:09 AM »
Yea, that's the one! I love Dustin & Kandice by the way. One of my favorites ever to run!

I wonder if a Detour-RB was just too time consuming to show? I like the RB-RB format, I just wish that we had more time to see everything.

What do you all think about eating tasks in general?? Even culturally semi-relevant ones?

The eating tasks are always so disgusting. Cindy's family is from China so she has been presented with some really gross things to eat, but once you get over the thought that 'you're not supposed to eat this', it's usually not too bad.  Except once she ate duck tongues in soup and those were gross because they still looked like a tongue.

The eating challenge that is the most memorable was when they ate the cow lips. Which season was that again? There were 2 teams doing the challenge together because of the intersection, and they still didn't finish first.  The cow lips were hairy and still had teeth in them! ewwblechewewe

It was in Season 10.  :tup: And Dustin & Kandice  bet the Fast Forwarded people.  :conf:

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« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2012, 12:23:00 AM »
I ADORE the "new" clueboxes!! But they could be much harder to spot! Were y'all given a head's up that they might be different in orientation or was it a big shock??
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« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2012, 12:24:27 AM »
OK it's off to bed for us, but if you have questions, post them here! We'll try to answer everyone's questions as you post them!  Have a great week and thanks for stopping by to chat about our favorite show. Thanks to Peach for inviting us on here - we had so much fun!  Thanks to everyone reading and asking questions!  If you're on Twitter, you can find us at : @Ernie_Halvo and @CindyCHalvo 

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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2012, 12:26:41 AM »
You guys did an awesome job, thank you SO much!! You have a standing invite to make this a regular event if you would like!!

:tu for doing this!! :kuss:
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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2012, 12:34:13 AM »
I don't really have a question for you, Ernie and Cindy. Just wanted to say congratulations on the wedding, and I hope you can come back and do this every week, if you can. :) Thanks for taking the time!

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« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2012, 12:36:22 AM »
Thank you so much Ernie & Cindy! :luvya:

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« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2012, 12:44:53 AM »
:tu Ernie & Cindy and sweet dreams! 
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« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2012, 02:29:20 AM »
Thank you Ernie and Cindy for your amazing sharing! Always fun to read!! :conf: :tup:

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« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2012, 06:32:44 AM »
Hi Ernie and Cindy!  I only discovered The Amazing Race at the start of this year and looking through them you were one of the few winners I didn't mind winning (Rachel and TK maybe being another).  Would have liked the snowboarders to get to the final as well though.

Anyway I found this premiere really disappointing.  The tasks just seemed recycled and pretty easy, I hardly got to know any of the teams, the editing just seemed for those with a short attention span as it was so rushed even though not that much was happening.  The only real drama seemed at the end in finding the abacus.  And I don't see the point of the 2 million twist, it only concerns one team now and I really wish they had used any extra money for tasks and locations.
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« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2012, 08:31:33 AM »
Aww... I missed this. :(
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« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2012, 01:40:36 PM »
The new clueboxes actually started only in TAR 19 right? I remembered we thought there was a conspiracy for the finale task for TAR 19.. turns out it was a false alarm! Would have been such a great finale memory task for that season!

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« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2012, 08:55:27 AM »
Hi Ernie and Cindy!  I only discovered The Amazing Race at the start of this year and looking through them you were one of the few winners I didn't mind winning (Rachel and TK maybe being another).  Would have liked the snowboarders to get to the final as well though.

Anyway I found this premiere really disappointing.  The tasks just seemed recycled and pretty easy, I hardly got to know any of the teams, the editing just seemed for those with a short attention span as it was so rushed even though not that much was happening.  The only real drama seemed at the end in finding the abacus.  And I don't see the point of the 2 million twist, it only concerns one team now and I really wish they had used any extra money for tasks and locations.

CBS/World Race Productions knows that there is approximately a 10% probability that they will have to pay out the extra million. This had to have been part of their budgeting for the show. It did not allow them to spend a real $1,000,000 extra on tasks and locations.

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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2012, 10:00:41 PM »

Aww thank you so much!!! We have had such a wonderful year and are blessed to have each other, our family and friends, and of course, all of you - our RFF Family!


I don't really have a question for you, Ernie and Cindy. Just wanted to say congratulations on the wedding, and I hope you can come back and do this every week, if you can. :) Thanks for taking the time!

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2012, 10:03:49 PM »
Haha thanks so much!!  We love Andy & tommy, they were such a strong team!!! They have been tons of fun to race with as well as our friendship after the show.  Truly wonderful guys.

We also felt this premiere was a bit disappointing - it all seemed fairly easy and there wasn't much time to get to know the racers. I liked the 2 roadblock format because a detour would have taken too much time to explain (thus fewer min to meet the teams) but we still felt like there could have been a little more story there.

The two million twist will be interesting, unless Ryan & Abbie don't make it to final 3. Then, it just drew the suspense of however long Ryan & Abbie made it.

Thanks for watching and thanks for the support!!  :hearts:

Hi Ernie and Cindy!  I only discovered The Amazing Race at the start of this year and looking through them you were one of the few winners I didn't mind winning (Rachel and TK maybe being another).  Would have liked the snowboarders to get to the final as well though.

Anyway I found this premiere really disappointing.  The tasks just seemed recycled and pretty easy, I hardly got to know any of the teams, the editing just seemed for those with a short attention span as it was so rushed even though not that much was happening.  The only real drama seemed at the end in finding the abacus.  And I don't see the point of the 2 million twist, it only concerns one team now and I really wish they had used any extra money for tasks and locations.

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Re: TAR 21 Premiere Discussion! Hosted by TAR 19's Cindy and Ernie!
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2012, 10:05:36 PM »
We hardly ever saw the clue boxes! Which is maybe because they were new and they didn't want them to get dirty or something  :lol:

How come there was no memory task in TAR 20!?!  I think this season will be soooo hard because they have to make up for missing it last season!

The new clueboxes actually started only in TAR 19 right? I remembered we thought there was a conspiracy for the finale task for TAR 19.. turns out it was a false alarm! Would have been such a great finale memory task for that season!


 

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