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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2012, 01:04:27 AM »
TAR22 Predictions!

Countries in bold are the ones I think we might see on TAR22!

Central/South America

I’m going to rule out Central America now. It would make a great penultimate leg but I just don’t see them going there.

As for South America, we are due for a visit, whether it be the opening legs or the penultimate legs. I don’t see them going to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay or Paraguay anytime soon. I don’t see them going to the north coast either (the most likely candidate would be Venezuela, but I doubt it). I think if South America is visited, we will need to keep an eye out on Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia. All three countries have so much on offer and as they are close together I could see them doing some country hopping. As all of them have only been visited once, any of them are possible.

Europe

TAR21 had a very Europe centric route, so we wont be spending as much time there, possibly 2 or 3 legs.

Western Europe is unlikely as TAR21 hosted 2 legs there (France and Netherlands) however due to TAR’s Olympic trend, I could see them doing a leg somewhere in the United Kingdom, but that’s it.

Scandinavia would be way to cold, but that doesn’t stop them. Denmark was recently visited, along with Sweden. Norway and Finland are both possible but Finland is more likely. I doubt they’ll make it there though.

The Mediterranean countries hosted 2 legs in TAR21 (Turkey and Spain), and Italy was in TAR20, Greece and Cyprus are unlikely, so I would rule this region out.

Central Europe has hosted 7 legs in the past 7 seasons CMIIW. I don’t see them going there anytime soon.

Eastern Europe is definitely a top contender. Russia is highly unlikely. The Baltic States are very undervisited, and Latvia is definitely due to host leg, but I think they will save it for another season. The only other possibilities I can think of are Poland, Hungary and Slovakia. However Poland and Hungary were visited only once a long time ago and Slovakia has never been visited. I can’t see them visiting Slovakia but Poland and Hungary are very possible as they have been visited in recent foregin editions.

We should keep our eye out for Yugoslavia for this season, and if they go there, I’m sure it will be a new country. I’d put my money on Slovenia and Albania, as I think they’re the most stable.

Africa

Africa is so unpredictable. North Africa is due for a re-visit, but I don’t see them going there. West Africa will be saved for later. I’m thinking East Africa or Central Africa. A visit back to Victoria Falls would be amazing but I doubt it.  In East Africa, I could see them going to Ethiopia for a re-visit, but pretty unlikely. For Central Africa, Uganda or Rwanda would be the best possibilities, however I’d go with Uganda. Though I wont be surprised if we don’t see Africa at all.

Middle East

Definitely coming soon, but more likely for TAR23.

Asia

Central Asia is tough. None of us were expecting Azerbaijan in TAR20 so I don’t know what to say. Out of the region I’d say Armenia and Uzbekistan, however I doubt they’ll go there at all. If they do go I’m sticking with Uzbekistan.

For South Asia, Bangladesh and India are in need of a rest. Lonely Planet named Sri Lanka the top destination to visit in 2013, plus the appearance of Natalie & Nadiya on TAR21 could also bring them there. Phil has claimed he would love to go to Nepal but I think Sri Lanka is more likely. However I wouldn’t be surprised if they give South Asia a break this season.

South East Asia needs a break, but that doesn’t stop WRP. We assumed Laos was our last minute cancellation leg in TAR19, but I think they’ll save it for TAR23. Philippines is the top contender here. It has not been visited for a very long time and after TAR Philippines and other foreign editions going there, we may see it!

No Japan. South Korea is unlikely but always remains a possibility. Definitely China.  Even though Shanghai was visited in TAR21 they probably want to explore another region, much like the TAR18 China legs. They will probably spend 2 legs there, I would predict Chengdu as one.

Oceania

Australia is unlikely, there’s not much left to see. New Zealand is a huge possibility. Not only is Phil from NZ, but after the Christchurch earthquakes and the oil spill, they probably want to help NZ with some tourism advertising. Not to mention NZ is at its prime during this time of the year. Phil has also claimed he would love to see the Pacific, and as Australia and NZ have plenty of direct flights to the island nations, its very likely will we see one if the race does go to New Zealand. I would predict Vanuatu.

Starting/Final Destination

Maybe a chance we wont be departing from LAX? Hopefully. If Europe’s first, we may have an east coast start. If New Zealand is first we’ll probably leave from LA.

For the final destination, it’s hard to say.
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« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2012, 03:04:22 AM »
In case anyone was curious, here's the current list of US Travel Advisories:

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Tunisia    10/19/2012
Colombia    10/03/2012
Pakistan    09/19/2012
Lebanon    09/17/2012
Sudan    09/15/2012
Algeria    09/13/2012
Libya    09/12/2012
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of    09/11/2012
Republic of South Sudan   09/10/2012
Guinea    09/07/2012
Mali    08/29/2012
Syria    08/28/2012
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza    08/10/2012
Iraq    08/09/2012
Congo, Democratic Republic of the    08/02/2012
Central African Republic    07/11/2012
Kenya    07/05/2012
Afghanistan    06/27/2012
Nigeria    06/21/2012
Haiti    06/18/2012
Somalia    06/15/2012
Philippines    06/14/2012
Mauritania    05/24/2012
Saudi Arabia   05/18/2012
Iran    04/27/2012
Cote d'Ivoire   04/23/2012
Burundi    04/18/2012
Eritrea    04/18/2012
Mali    04/09/2012
Niger    04/06/2012
Chad    03/29/2012
Yemen   03/27/2012
Mexico   02/08/2012

Source: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2012, 10:02:13 AM »
After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.
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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2012, 02:31:20 PM »
Having TAR 18, 19 and 21 starting in Oceania or Asia, I think this time, it will start Central or Southern America, or even Europe. About the TAR13 route made backwards, I don't think so. TAR is recently skipping a continent per season, and sometimes two, trying to make things cheaper; visiting all continents would be expensive with flights and such, and I am almost sure there are only 3/4 continents visited.

Visits to Spain could be amazing, since we've seen Barcelona, and will get to see Mallorca in a few weeks, but I think Spain is MUUUCH more than that (if you think about traditions in Spain, none of them are from Barcelona nor Mallorca, for example). I should also say that the Tomatina is made in a town near Valencia, and that could be a great Switchback task sometimes, but I also don't thi they will come back in, at least, five seasons or more. Hope to be wrong in that. I just expect to get online much often and try to catch anything to help this time. Wanna get spoiled.
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« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2012, 03:36:12 PM »
Season 22 already?! Wow, time sure flies. :stare:

I'm hoping they will do a unique, messed up route like this:
Leg 1 (United States --> New Zealand) / San Francisco, CA to Christchurch & Dunedin
Leg 2 (New Zealand) / Auckland revisit
Leg 3 (New Zealand --> Australia) / Tasmania
Leg 4 (Australia --> Philippines) / Manila & Quezon City
Leg 5 (Philippines --> Brunei) / Bandar
Leg 6 (Brunei) / Random village :hearts:
Leg 7 (Brunei --> Uganda) / Kampala
Leg 8 (Uganda --> Greece) / Athens
Leg 9 (Greece --> Poland) / Warsaw
Leg 10 (Poland) / Krakow
Leg 11 (Poland --> Wales) / Random cultural locations :hearts:
Leg 12 (Wales --> United States) / to Buffalo, NY
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« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2012, 01:30:25 AM »
Oh and I think Bulgaria might be featured. Just a feeling :)
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« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2012, 04:06:52 AM »
I think this season will have a leg or two in India, China, and United Arab Emirates. They seem to love India in the race too.

Ideally I think it may be.

Leg 1 - (United States - > Australia)
Leg 2 - (Australia)
Leg 3 - (Australia -> Philippines)
Leg 4 - (Philippines -> Malaysia)
Leg 5 - (Malaysia -> China)
Leg 6 - (China -> India)
Leg 7 - (India -> United Arab Emirates)
Leg 8 - (United Arab Emirates)
Leg 9 - (United Arab Emirates -> Italy)
Leg 10 - (Italy -> Germany)
Leg 11 - (Germany)
Leg 12 - (Germany -> United States)

Or realistically

Leg 1 - (United States -> Australia)
Leg 2 - (Australia - > Japan)
Leg 3 - (Japan -> Cambodia)
Leg 4 - (Cambodia-> Laos)
Leg 5 - (Laos -> China)
Leg 6 - (China -> India)
Leg 7 - (India)
Leg 8 - (India -> United Arab Emirates)
Leg 9 - (United Arab Emirates -> Sweden)
Leg 10 - (Sweden -> Norway)
Leg 11 - (Norway)
Leg 12 - (Norway - United States)

I don't think these would be bad routes and realistic if they travel directly to Australia.
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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2012, 09:39:13 AM »
 :( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

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« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2012, 09:56:08 AM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

Australia is expensive to visit, relatively small country in terms of population and only city left to visit is Melbourne.
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« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2012, 10:07:45 AM »
I am actually thinking/hoping that they may try for every inhabited continent again. They haven't done that since season 5 I think...and they are slowly building their budget back up. So why not?

If they don't go to Australia/New Zealand next season I will be super surprised. And Africa is pretty much a guarantee if they aren't going to Africa this season. South America/Latin America is a possibility since it isn't being visited this season, but definitely not a guarantee.

I just am hoping for Dubai, Switzerland, and Philippines. Dubai always gives some of the best legs, and the Philippines are such an amazing place. Switzerland is awesome, too. I wouldn't mind a revisit to some secluded tropical islands ala Seychelles, or even some areas in the Mediterranean. Malaysia would be cool. Middle Eastern countries would be awesome too, but really, that isn't all that likely.

So my guess (a little bit of realistic mixed with a little bit of hope, lol):

Leg 1: Venezuela
Leg 2: Guyana
Leg 3: Morocco
Leg 4: Morocco
Leg 5: Dubai
Leg 6: Belgium
Leg 7: Switzerland
Leg 8: Japan
Leg 9: Japan
Leg 10: Philippines
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« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2012, 03:44:53 PM »
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

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« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2012, 03:50:11 PM »
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

Nope. I think they will save africa for season 23.
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

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« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2012, 03:54:29 PM »
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:

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Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:
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« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2012, 04:07:24 PM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

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« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2012, 04:46:42 PM »
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:

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Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:

Hint hint ....    :lol:
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« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2012, 05:40:53 PM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

supah3ro speaks the truth...  ;)

I live in Melbourne for almost four years now, indeed only buildings and parks and gardens, though it's a very much multicultural city but there's not much significant of the indigenous culture to be explored, unless you went to the outback.

The only suburban areas that is really interesting for TAR to visit (via Melbourne) is the ancient gold town Ballarat (Sovereign Hill), Phillip Island (lots of holiday attraction, including MotoGP venue), otherwise it's gonna be a waste of episode if they came to Melbourne only for rapelling down the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground, the starting line for TARAus-1) or climbing the 88 floors of Eureka tower...  :(

Not that I don't want them to not coming down under to Australia, but it's just.... like..that...
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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2012, 04:29:40 AM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).
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« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2012, 08:55:22 AM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).

They have never been to Tasmania, so they could first go to Melbourne and then go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2012, 11:33:02 AM »
After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.
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« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2012, 01:16:40 PM »
This is pure speculation, not a wish wist.

Starting Line: Minneapolis, Houston, Denver, Phoenix, Detroit, Washington DC, Portland-OR, or San Francisco
Visits to:
Brazil (Amazon River/Brasilia), Colombia (Bogota), or Peru (Macchu Pichu)
Southern Africa or West Central Africa (Gabon or Cameroon)
Europe (England-2012 Olympics, Scotland, Germany, Slovakia, Serbia, Slovenia, or Hungary)
Middle East/Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan, Tel Aviv, or Jordan)
Siberia (Irkutsk/Lake Baikal)
Eastern Asia (Macau, Central Vietnam, Chiang Mai, or Laos)
Philippines (Manila, Laoag City, or Palawan)
Oceania (Palau, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, or Fiji)
Canada (Vancouver-2010 Winter Olympics)
Finish Line (Seattle, Portland, or San Diego)
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« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2012, 02:28:03 PM »
After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.

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« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2012, 04:27:58 PM »
I think Jamaica has a good shot of returning. 1. they have had a miami starting line 2. last time we have seen it was s7. 3. they have never went to the carabiean to start of the race. theyve been to every other contintent first...

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« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2012, 01:38:58 AM »
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?



After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.


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« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2012, 03:06:20 AM »
Well because everyone does not want to Indonesia :'( :'(. It is true anyway, better to Indonesia during the dry season because the weather was very hot at that time. :lol:

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Leg 01 : USA - Qatar
Leg 02 : Qatar - India/Sri Lanka
Leg 03 : India/Sri Lanka - Japan
Leg 04 : Japan - Ethiopia
Leg 05 : Ethiopia
Leg 06 : Ethiopia - Greece
Leg 07 : Greece - Croatia
Leg 08 : Croatia
Leg 09 : Croatia - Trinad & Tobago
Leg 10 : Trinad & Tobago - Peru
Leg 11 : Peru
Leg 12 : Peru - USA (Hopefully at San Francisco)
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« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2012, 05:28:03 AM »
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).

They have never been to Tasmania, so they could first go to Melbourne and then go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If people are going to say Melbourne is bad, Tasmania is A LOT worse.
Victoria Rafaeli - BB16 champion hopefully


 

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