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Best Franchise?
« on: July 03, 2012, 06:10:58 AM »
Hey Guys.

I am from Australia, and so have been eagerly following 'The Amazing Race Australia 2'. I have thoroughly enjoyed this season, and although I am a TAR Traditionalist and hate to say it, I feel as if this TARAus franchise is far better than the american one at the moment. I think this is because of better casting, locations, varying leg structures and the unpredictability.

Anywho, this got me thinking, what do you think is the best TAR franchise? I have only seen the US and AUS franchises, so it would be interesting to see what you guys thought.

So, which is the best TAR Franchise, and why?

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 06:27:34 AM »
I'm from Australia too!  :ghug:

But in all seriousness, I do think TARAus is the best franchise right now. It gets points for casting, locations, challenges and editing!

Don't get me wrong, the original TAR is pure magic but somewhere along the way it just... yeah..
HOPEFULLY the original gets its mojo back in TAR21!  :)

AND I really really like TAR China Rush!
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 07:34:20 AM »
I'm from Australia too!  :ghug:

But in all seriousness, I do think TARAus is the best franchise right now. It gets points for casting, locations, challenges and editing!

Don't get me wrong, the original TAR is pure magic but somewhere along the way it just... yeah..
HOPEFULLY the original gets its mojo back in TAR21!  :)

I agree! I feel as if the first 1-7 seasons of TAR were magical, but that being said, the last 2 seasons have been dismal. There was something about the first 1-3 seasons of TAR that needs to be recaptured if TAR is to overtake TARAus as, in my eyes, best franchise!

TARAus is in a class of its own though, and i agree that i hope TAR 21 is back to its best!!!! (although looking at the spoilers, it looks like another failure)
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 08:04:41 AM »
TAR Aus > TAR US > TAR Norway > TAR ChinaRush > TARA > TAR Vietnam

Haven't watched Israel and only watched few of LA so I can't put it. I still think US is good but I never get excited watching TAR as I am watchng TAR Aus Season 2.

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 08:05:40 AM »
The Amazing Race Australia obviously. TARA is decent if you minus away Allan Wu's weird hosting style and too many mactors on the show.


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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 09:05:07 AM »
Obviously the earlier seasons of TAR are the best seasons, and they will be close to impossible to beat, but I have to agree that TARAus is better than the current US versions, but definitely nowhere near as good as some of the original TAR. :tup:
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 09:51:47 AM »
Obviously the earlier seasons of TAR are the best seasons, and they will be close to impossible to beat, but I have to agree that TARAus is better than the current US versions, but definitely nowhere near as good as some of the original TAR. :tup:

This. I say split the American seasons into two sets, Pre-All Stars and Post-All Stars. It's not really fair to compare a show with 20 seasons to one with 2, as all shows decline in quality.


With the exception of the Pre-Allstar seasons, I think HaMerotz LaMillion is the best. Since most legs span 2-3 episodes, each longer than the 43 minutes of the US version, you get to know the teams more and there are many more tasks in each leg.

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 10:17:02 AM »
Obviously the earlier seasons of TAR are the best seasons, and they will be close to impossible to beat, but I have to agree that TARAus is better than the current US versions, but definitely nowhere near as good as some of the original TAR. :tup:

This. I say split the American seasons into two sets, Pre-All Stars and Post-All Stars. It's not really fair to compare a show with 20 seasons to one with 2, as all shows decline in quality.


With the exception of the Pre-Allstar seasons, I think HaMerotz LaMillion is the best. Since most legs span 2-3 episodes, each longer than the 43 minutes of the US version, you get to know the teams more and there are many more tasks in each leg.

I wanna watch TARI but its hard to understand. even the names are impossible to know as well as the placings.

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 10:26:41 AM »
You wouldn't have the Australian (or Asian, Norwegian, Israeli, etc) franchises without the American one.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 11:16:27 AM »
I agree! I feel as if the first 1-7 seasons of TAR were magical, but that being said, the last 2 seasons have been dismal. There was something about the first 1-3 seasons of TAR that needs to be recaptured if TAR is to overtake TARAus as, in my eyes, best franchise!

I didn't think that 2,4 and 6 were very magical.  The American one can get lazy sometimes now and not test contestants enough.  This year they really needed more self-navigation and just more travelling and challenges.  I know some say they are happy with it just being a tourist show with nice scenery but it is meant to be a race.

Has anyone done subtitles for the Norwegian one?
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2012, 02:39:48 PM »
I myself have only seen Post-All-Stars and TARAus so I would have to say TARAus is better than the American version. There are two reasons, in my opinion, this is true. One, the casting of TARAus has been spectacular. Secondly, TARAus has had more tasks (Averaging about 3 per leg) and difficult tasks.

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 04:03:02 PM »
Right now, the best franchises are the Australian and Israeli without a doubt. China and Norway are also up there a bit.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 04:17:20 PM »
The Amazing Race Australia obviously. TARA is decent if you minus away Allan Wu's weird hosting style and too many mactors on the show. AND ALL OF THE PRODUCT PLACEMENT.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 05:27:03 PM »
TAR AU is top for me then its US then Asian.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 07:04:50 PM »
I reckon that TARAus is better that TARUS and TARA.

Also, in TARUS i reckon the best seasons were the recurring racers ones and the ones before them. (TAR10,11,17,18)
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2012, 08:11:38 PM »
I've only seen Aus and US, but I like them for different reasons- the US version has some great challenges and is intense, while the Australian one is excellent and has a lot of humour.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a worldwide All-Stars? Maybe 4 teams each from Aus, US and Asia.

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »
I've only seen Aus and US, but I like them for different reasons- the US version has some great challenges and is intense, while the Australian one is excellent and has a lot of humour.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a worldwide All-Stars? Maybe 4 teams each from Aus, US and Asia.
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 09:13:53 PM »
My list from best to worst  (not including American version, because it is the original and best one) would be:
1.The Amazing Race Australia. (The two seasons have been way better than some American races)
2.The Amazing Race Israel. (Would be #1 if it wasnt in Hebrew)
3.The Amazing Race Norge. (Same as Israel)
4.The Amazing Race Latinoamerica. (Probably because it is from my own region, and teams represent me more than other versions)
5.The Amazing Race China Rush. (Really good franchise, too bad it is only in China)
6.The Amazing Race Asia. (It was good but too much product placement, and only one memorable race (2))
7.The Amazing Race Brazil. (If it wasnt only on Brazil it would be 4, really fun teams)
8.The Amazing Race Vietnam. (Is this even part of TAR family?, what a bad franchise! low budget, and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew), the only good thing is that they travel all across beautiful Vietnam)
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 09:16:46 PM »
I've only seen Aus and US, but I like them for different reasons- the US version has some great challenges and is intense, while the Australian one is excellent and has a lot of humour.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a worldwide All-Stars? Maybe 4 teams each from Aus, US and Asia.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2012, 10:51:43 PM »
My list from best to worst  (not including American version, because it is the original and best one) would be:
1.The Amazing Race Australia. (The two seasons have been way better than some American races)
2.The Amazing Race Israel. (Would be #1 if it wasnt in Hebrew)
3.The Amazing Race Norge. (Same as Israel)
4.The Amazing Race Latinoamerica. (Probably because it is from my own region, and teams represent me more than other versions)
5.The Amazing Race China Rush. (Really good franchise, too bad it is only in China)
6.The Amazing Race Asia. (It was good but too much product placement, and only one memorable race (2))
7.The Amazing Race Brazil. (If it wasnt only on Brazil it would be 4, really fun teams)
8.The Amazing Race Vietnam. (Is this even part of TAR family?, what a bad franchise! low budget, and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew), the only good thing is that they travel all across beautiful Vietnam)
I like it. :( The recent episodes are pretty good. So let's bump it up a few spots.
But then that would leave Brazil at the bottom and I like that season, so let's bump that up. Asia was also good so it shouldn't be last, and China Rush is constantly improving. The first Latin American season was outstanding and outweighs the other two season, but then again Norge was also really good. I've already mentioned my love for Israel, and Australia is really good. That leaves the US version as worst, which is certainly not true. Whoops, now Vietnam is at the bottom again.


It's too hard to rank them by series, so I'd much rather do it by season.

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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 11:49:48 PM »
I've only seen Aus and US, but I like them for different reasons- the US version has some great challenges and is intense, while the Australian one is excellent and has a lot of humour.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a worldwide All-Stars? Maybe 4 teams each from Aus, US and Asia.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2012, 12:33:29 AM »
My list from best to worst  (not including American version, because it is the original and best one) would be:
1.The Amazing Race Australia. (The two seasons have been way better than some American races)
2.The Amazing Race Israel. (Would be #1 if it wasnt in Hebrew)
3.The Amazing Race Norge. (Same as Israel)
4.The Amazing Race Latinoamerica. (Probably because it is from my own region, and teams represent me more than other versions)
5.The Amazing Race China Rush. (Really good franchise, too bad it is only in China)
6.The Amazing Race Asia. (It was good but too much product placement, and only one memorable race (2))
7.The Amazing Race Brazil. (If it wasnt only on Brazil it would be 4, really fun teams)
8.The Amazing Race Vietnam. (Is this even part of TAR family?, what a bad franchise! low budget, and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew), the only good thing is that they travel all across beautiful Vietnam)
I like it. :( The recent episodes are pretty good. So let's bump it up a few spots.
But then that would leave Brazil at the bottom and I like that season, so let's bump that up. Asia was also good so it shouldn't be last, and China Rush is constantly improving. The first Latin American season was outstanding and outweighs the other two season, but then again Norge was also really good. I've already mentioned my love for Israel, and Australia is really good. That leaves the US version as worst, which is certainly not true. Whoops, now Vietnam is at the bottom again.


It's too hard to rank them by series, so I'd much rather do it by season.

last two episodes of TARV is very decent and the best among the franchise. i still understand why it is not like the other TAR but at least we have aomething else to watch.

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2012, 02:31:05 AM »
Hmm, in my opinion, I still think the US version has a one-up on the other franchises. I think some of the episodes of the current TAR:Aus have been better or just as good as that of TAR20, but the latest US season had what I thought was a diverse cast (10 minority racers, yay!), fun locations, some cool tasks & I always love me some DRAMA! The great thing going for TAR:Aus right now is that the teams I didn't particularly care for have been eliminated one after another...unlike the first Australian season where all the entertaining teams were eliminated one after another and gave us a final three that I thought were pretty bland compared to the other teams.

And having seen every episode of TAR:US, TAR:Aus, TAR:CR & TARA (most of them more than once), I don't like seeing tasks reused or even entire legs reused, which TAR:Aus did for most of the first leg of this current season and did a lot of during their first season. Most people probably don't care because they hadn't seen all the episodes or like seeing a new cast tackle old challenges, but I prefer seeing new things (which TAR:US almost always offers).

Great thing with TAR:Aus is that they get an extra 5 minutes per episode that the US version doesn't. Five minutes may not seem like much, but that's 5 more minutes to get to know the teams and maybe even get in an extra task or two, so I don't blame people for enjoying the Aussie version a little more.

But anyway, I still think TAR:US reigns supreme followed closely behind by TAR: Aus, then China Rush and then TARA (great first season, but went downhill with each season that followed). Tried watching Israel but some of their tasks just seemed too silly. Finding time to watch Norway, which seems good.

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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2012, 03:01:11 AM »

8. and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew)

Well it obviously isn't their fault that they speak a language you don't understand.  I'm sure you didn't mean it like that but that's how it ended up looking.  :D
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2012, 04:48:50 AM »
I think one reason I wasn't bothered much about TARAus repeating tasks was that I didn't watch TARA4. TBH, if TARA and TARAus were doing the exact same tasks I would rather go with TARAus. I just don't like most of the casting and all the product placement in TARA.

TARLA1 was epic, TARLA2 was OK, but TARLA3 was plain sucky. The main issues I have with this are: unnecessary changes to the rules (though they came up with the concept of the double battle), ultra low budget, generic tasks, executive meddling trying to save a mactor team. It is just too limited and like I said it's "too cheap to do anything nice". Also, their visuals are tacky.

I would love for TARLA to follow the example of China Rush, at least showing some effort when designing non-extreme tasks. My issue with TARCR is that legs tend to be very repetitive, but the drama they offer is pure gold.

Between TARAus and TAR is difficult to judge which one's the best, because being one of the newest, TARAus has the advantage of knowing what works and what doesn't. That way they avoid early TAR's mistakes and venture outside the box. I like that TARAus is brave enough to try different changes in the format such as having the voting U-Turn and the Yield. I guess after ranting I feel like TAR is too conservative and they only use surprise twists like the Intersection once every other blue moon.

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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2012, 07:37:37 AM »
i just realized that its not fair to compare TAR:US and the other versions since TAR:US is the original and it already has 20 seasons to date.

i watched every Single TARA but still it doesn't bother me seeing the same task especially if you love the task and its fun to see some other teams do the task. I might say its not the best TAR but To me, TAR Aus 2 has the best casting. Ai just can't afford to lose anyone. :((.

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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2012, 09:24:50 AM »
I've only seen Aus and US, but I like them for different reasons- the US version has some great challenges and is intense, while the Australian one is excellent and has a lot of humour.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a worldwide All-Stars? Maybe 4 teams each from Aus, US and Asia.
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The only problem is that not all franchises speak the same language.
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2012, 10:31:36 AM »

8. and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew)

Well it obviously isn't their fault that they speak a language you don't understand.  I'm sure you didn't mean it like that but that's how it ended up looking.  :D

Oh, i know it isn't their fault. But it is way more difficult to understand, unlike Norwegian or Hebrew. It is not that i don't like their language, i respect every language and actually i think Vietnamese is a very interesting one. :)

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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2012, 10:39:33 AM »
My list from best to worst  (not including American version, because it is the original and best one) would be:
1.The Amazing Race Australia. (The two seasons have been way better than some American races)
2.The Amazing Race Israel. (Would be #1 if it wasnt in Hebrew)
3.The Amazing Race Norge. (Same as Israel)
4.The Amazing Race Latinoamerica. (Probably because it is from my own region, and teams represent me more than other versions)
5.The Amazing Race China Rush. (Really good franchise, too bad it is only in China)
6.The Amazing Race Asia. (It was good but too much product placement, and only one memorable race (2))
7.The Amazing Race Brazil. (If it wasnt only on Brazil it would be 4, really fun teams)
8.The Amazing Race Vietnam. (Is this even part of TAR family?, what a bad franchise! low budget, and a language that i cant understand (unlike Norwegian & Hebrew), the only good thing is that they travel all across beautiful Vietnam)
I like it. :( The recent episodes are pretty good. So let's bump it up a few spots.
But then that would leave Brazil at the bottom and I like that season, so let's bump that up. Asia was also good so it shouldn't be last, and China Rush is constantly improving. The first Latin American season was outstanding and outweighs the other two season, but then again Norge was also really good. I've already mentioned my love for Israel, and Australia is really good. That leaves the US version as worst, which is certainly not true. Whoops, now Vietnam is at the bottom again.


It's too hard to rank them by series, so I'd much rather do it by season.

last two episodes of TARV is very decent and the best among the franchise. i still understand why it is not like the other TAR but at least we have aomething else to watch.

I think i have to apologise, because i used the wrong words. When compared to other series, Vietnam is obviously at the bottom but i'm pretty sure it is because all the TAR series have their own special thing, and since TARV is on their first season, i hope they can improve.
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« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2012, 11:53:08 PM »
Pretty close battle between AUS and US for me.

Would have to say season 20 edges out AUS 2 thou...
Even though there are ALOT of elements in AUS 2 that are better than whats been in the US seasons since All stars.

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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2012, 09:50:43 AM »
Oh, i know it isn't their fault. But it is way more difficult to understand, unlike Norwegian or Hebrew. It is not that i don't like their language, i respect every language and actually i think Vietnamese is a very interesting one. :)

Sorry if it looked like that.
But at least you can pronounce some Vietnamese words than Hebrew right? :lol:

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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2012, 09:52:13 AM »
I can't do either. :(
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2012, 10:04:57 AM »
The Amazing Race Australia obviously. TARA is decent if you minus away Allan Wu's weird hosting style and too many mactors on the show.

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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2012, 10:35:36 AM »
I hate to say this but TAR US is not a franchise but an original version. Please stop referring to it that it is uncomparable to TAR Australia, because without its success, TAR Aust wouldn't exist. Kthxbye.

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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2012, 01:47:28 AM »
The Amazing Race Australia obviously. TARA is decent if you minus away Allan Wu's weird hosting style and too many mactors on the show. AND ALL OF THE PRODUCT PLACEMENT.
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2012, 03:09:47 AM »
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2012, 07:52:45 PM »
The Amazing Race Australia obviously. TARA is decent if you minus away Allan Wu's weird hosting style and too many mactors on the show. AND ALL OF THE PRODUCT PLACEMENT.
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2012, 01:47:04 PM »
TAR Asia was pretty embrrassing. I really really really hope there'll be TAR Japan. The tasks would be hilarious and jaw dropping.
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2012, 12:57:58 AM »
TAR Asia was pretty embrrassing. I really really really hope there'll be TAR Japan. The tasks would be hilarious and jaw dropping.

You mean wackier than Sushi Roulette?  :noway:


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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2012, 01:58:58 AM »
I thought sushi roulette was a bit boring, it was just another eating game.  The jump up and grab a chicken task was better.
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 02:25:13 AM »
TAR Asia was pretty embrrassing. I really really really hope there'll be TAR Japan. The tasks would be hilarious and jaw dropping.

You mean wackier than Sushi Roulette?  :noway:


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I thought sushi roulette was a bit boring, it was just another eating game.  The jump up and grab a chicken task was better.
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2012, 04:53:09 PM »
I love all the franchises I've seen.

The original Us is simply the best overall. How they keep it going over 21 seasons is amazing.
I hope for many more. I would love 1 or more episodes showing what the camera people go
through as they are following the racers. The logistics of setting up the race and following through.
That would be great. perhaps on one of the season DVD's as an extra -hint hint.
I like the variation in the teams, some semi-famous, some by work type, relationships.
They always have a mix of likeable and less likeable teams.
So Many of the challenges I would like to try, or wish I was brave enough.

Australia has some of the more likeable teams and interesting tasks.
They can go to places like Israel and Cuba.
I have trouble finding season 2 because of the video police.

The Norge teams seemed to be good-natured and fun to watch.
The video police kept me from seeing episodes after 9.
Not understanding the language is not good, But I can read about it later

I have seen some of Tar Israel, but not understanding everything takes away some enjoyment.
The kibbutz or middle aged ladies are fun to watch.

Tar Asia was fun (I don't mind Wu) and is in english, but there were
many mactors.

My thoughts anyway.

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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2012, 05:09:03 PM »
The USA one.

Australia is too boring IMO
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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2012, 07:17:36 PM »
Australia is too boring IMO

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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2012, 02:59:33 AM »
The USA one.

Australia is too boring IMO

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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2012, 04:33:14 AM »
The USA one.

Australia is too boring IMO

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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2012, 01:46:48 AM »
The USA one.

Australia is too boring IMO

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Re: Best Franchise?
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2012, 05:29:20 AM »
I'm glad you guys like China Rush! :hoot:
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