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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2012, 12:17:51 PM »
Okay...I think I can reveal it now...
1st destination is:Shanghai,China :hearts:

Well actually, Shanghai is the only destination that makes sense from flight stats.....there are not any other cities that fit the flight profiles except either Hong Kong or Macau.....and they might go there......but I would think after they go someplace else in China first......

Eva Air  BR15      1:35 am-6:20 am   LAX>TPE
Eva Air  BR712  10:10 am-12:05pm TPE>PNG

China Airlines  CI7     1:15-6:10   LAX>TPE
China Airlines  CI501 9:05 am-1050am  TPE>PVG

Why separate the teams to Taipei though?

I can answer the last question. Based on some studies I did of all the reasonable possibilities, nonstops to Shanghai were too separate in time from any connections in TPE, ICN, NRT, KIX, or PEK (that one was not too bad). However, having both sets of teams go through Taipei keeps them a reasonable separation apart, 75 minutes.


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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2012, 12:22:27 PM »
Okay...I think I can reveal it now...
1st destination is:Shanghai,China :hearts:

Well actually, Shanghai is the only destination that makes sense from flight stats.....there are not any other cities that fit the flight profiles except either Hong Kong or Macau.....and they might go there......but I would think after they go someplace else in China first......

Eva Air  BR15      1:35 am-6:20 am   LAX>TPE
Eva Air  BR712  10:10 am-12:05pm TPE>PNG

China Airlines  CI7     1:15-6:10   LAX>TPE
China Airlines  CI501 9:05 am-1050am  TPE>PVG

Why separate the teams to Taipei though?

I can answer the last question. Based on some studies I did of all the reasonable possibilities, nonstops to Shanghai were too separate in time from any connections in TPE, ICN, NRT, KIX, or PEK (that one was not too bad). However, having both sets of teams go through Taipei keeps them a reasonable separation apart, 75 minutes.

Yeah, I meant that all teams could've been on the same flight from LAX to TPE and then separated on the two flights to Shanghai. Why put them on two flights to TPE that arrive 10 minutes apart?

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2012, 12:41:17 PM »
Yeah, I meant that all teams could've been on the same flight from LAX to TPE and then separated on the two flights to Shanghai. Why put them on two flights to TPE that arrive 10 minutes apart?

Because then you can have two distinct counters at LAX that teams need to get to. Having teams on separate flights from LAX makes them seem a lot more separate in the footage.

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2012, 12:48:43 PM »

Yeah, I meant that all teams could've been on the same flight from LAX to TPE and then separated on the two flights to Shanghai. Why put them on two flights to TPE that arrive 10 minutes apart?

I will give a different answer: Because that is the way World Race Productions does things. They typically design using 2 specified first flights (with teams qualifying for the quicker arrival at the final destination based on some competition at or near the start line) and sometimes even 3 first flights.

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2012, 12:53:02 PM »

Yeah, I meant that all teams could've been on the same flight from LAX to TPE and then separated on the two flights to Shanghai. Why put them on two flights to TPE that arrive 10 minutes apart?

I will give a different answer: Because that is the way World Race Productions does things. They typically design using 2 specified first flights (with teams qualifying for the quicker arrival at the final destination based on some competition at or near the start line) and sometimes even 3 first flights.

Since you seem to know everything, when was the last time they used two or more flights to the same connecting city that arrived so closely to each other?


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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2012, 01:02:27 PM »

Yeah, I meant that all teams could've been on the same flight from LAX to TPE and then separated on the two flights to Shanghai. Why put them on two flights to TPE that arrive 10 minutes apart?

I will give a different answer: Because that is the way World Race Productions does things. They typically design using 2 specified first flights (with teams qualifying for the quicker arrival at the final destination based on some competition at or near the start line) and sometimes even 3 first flights.

Since you seem to know everything, when was the last time they used two or more flights to the same connecting city that arrived so closely to each other?
I will sight you the example of AR19, which did not use connecting flights, but those flights to the first destination arrived about 10 minutes apart.

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2012, 01:03:25 PM »
I think you mean 'cite', apskip ;)
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2012, 01:21:58 PM »
China Airlines 007 crossed the International Date Line @ 10:58 am EDT. EVA Air 015 crossed the International Date Line @ 11:33 am EDT, for a differential of +35 min lead for CA007.

At 2:15pm EDT......China Air 007 has approx 3 hours and 25 minutes of flying time to Taipei. Eva Air 015 has approx 4 hours of flying time left to Taipei.

Anticipated wheels down on the runway (NOT gate arrival) @ Shanghai is

CI 501  10:30 pm EDT
BR 712  11:45 pm EDT

IF I did the time conversions correctly.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2012, 01:40:13 PM by DrRox »
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2012, 01:28:17 PM »
I'm strongly speculating that one of the earlier flights out of LAX to get to Shanghai contained Phil and production to get ahead of the teams. Got to keep that in mind, folks, Phil has mentioned in the past that in some legs, its a challenge to get ahead of the teams by enough time to film all of his stand ups for a leg so he can leap frog ahead of the teams for the following leg.
Since I don't know when the teams finished departing for LAX from Pasadena, I'm not going to guess which flight that might be.
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2012, 02:46:42 PM »
The best I found for Phil is to leave about 11:30 pm from LAX........connect through either Seoul or Quangzhou......and beat the teams to Shanghai by about an hour........
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2012, 02:51:02 PM »
Yes, unfortunately he missed all the non stops!
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2012, 04:28:09 PM »
Now that we know that they are in China, i just hope they go to Guangzhou or Chengdu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hrt:  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2012, 05:08:38 PM »
Both flights have landed. China Air 7 landed at 5:51 AM (17 minutes ago) and Eva Air 15 landed at 5:52 AM (16 minutes ago).

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2012, 05:35:31 PM »
I am showing EVA still enroute and a bit late.

China Airlines 6:10 AM  arr 5:52 AM  T-2
D4  Landed
  On-time  744   
LAX Los Angeles BR 15  EVA Air 6:20 AM  due 6:28 AM ~  T-2
C5  En Route
 


But doesn't matter, they have about 3 hours before their next flight!

Poor babies, they must be half dead by now!!
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2012, 07:22:44 PM »

Okay...I think I can reveal it now...
1st destination is:Shanghai,China :hearts:

It's a Weihen day today... looking forward for any snaps from shanghai  :<3
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #90 on: May 27, 2012, 08:29:46 PM »

Just throwing out these to the floor,

LIVE events in Shangai today, 28 May 2012

1. Children’s Talent Contest
DATE   Apr 22, 2012 - Jun 1, 2012

Both Chinese and foreign children from 3 to 8 years old or 9 to 14 years old are invited to a children’s talent contest organized by the educational role-play theme park Eday town. Winners will have chance to receive formal training in singing, dancing or performing and be invited as guests for famous kiddie TV programs. Registration is available by June on www.edaytown.com


2. New Installation
DATE   Mar 26, 2012 - Mar 28, 2013
VENUE   M50 Taopu
ADDRESS   18 Wuwei Rd E.

“Cross Light,” a new light installation created by Ding Yi, one of the top contemporary artists in Shanghai, was recently settled down at M50 Taopu. The installation, constituted with five groups of LED lights, features Ding’s signature theme – cross. He wraps one building with LED lights.


3. Celebrity Wax Figure
DATE   Dec 2, 2011 - Dec 1, 2012
TIME   10am-9pm
TICKETS   135 yuan for adults; 100 yuan for students
VENUE   Madame Tussauds Shanghai
PHONE   021-6358 7878

The wax figure of British actor Robert Pattinson, who established his fame in "The Twilight" saga is now on display at the Shanghai Madame Tussauds Wax Museum together with other great artists and actors, as well as famous singer like Lady Gaga and Susan Boyle. Visitors can take photos of the wax figure.

More Shanghai LIVE events :

http://live.shanghaidaily.com/on_list.asp?show=2012-5-1&class=174&tags=&area=0&date=2012-5-28&sort_type=publish_time&desc=desc

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2012, 08:43:29 PM »

A good reliable location :


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China's 'Hollywood' shines in business
Updated: Monday, 28 May 2012, 07:59






Events happen every day at China's "Hollywood", where there has been outdoor scenery available free for domestic and foreign crews to shoot movies and TV dramas since 2000.

The teams that visit Hengdian for the variety of shooting locations have created a huge demand for the service sector in the town, boosting its growth.

Sprinkling of stardust pulls in the tourists, making service sector grow Entertainment celebrities attract not only huge crowds of fans but bring about opportunities for the development of the service sector. This has been perfectly demonstrated by Hengdian, a town in East China's Zhejiang province.

Many Chinese people know of the Hengdian World Studios. However, its parent, Hengdian Group, was originally established as an industrial enterprise and its business mainly deals with industries including electronics, pharmaceuticals and chemicals.

Hengdian Group created a 19th-century Guangzhou street scene covering 319 mu (21.3 hectares) in just more than four months, which has developed into the world's largest film studio.

Hengdian Group invested more than 7 billion yuan ($111 million) in the construction of the set. It boasts 28 large-scale scenic spots and 11 indoor studios.

The outdoor scenic spots include buildings featuring :
1. The architecture of the Ming and Qing dynasties (1368-1911)
2. An imitation of the Palace of the Qin Dynasty (221-206 BC)
3. A Guangzhou street scene
4. A Hong Kong street scene
5. A riverside scene featuring Tomb Sweeping Day (Ching Ming Festival).

A move that distinguished Hengdian World Studios from other studios in the country came in 2000, when Hengdian World Studios Co, the operator of the studios, made it free to shoot outdoor scenes there. This attracted a significantly growing number of cast and crew to China's "Hollywood".

Over the past eight years, a total of more than 900 crew have visited Hengdian studios to make movies and TV dramas, including some from foreign countries. The number of extras recommended to crew through the extras union under the company's control exceeded 4 million in recent years, according to the Hengdian Chinese Film Industrial Park, a national organization founded in 2004 to promote the development of the film and TV drama industries.

The teams that visit Hengdian for the variety of shooting locations created a huge demand for the service sector in the town, boosting its growth. The tertiary industry in the town of Hengdian generated more than 6 billion yuan in revenues last year, accounting for one third of the town's gross domestic product. The job opportunities created in the service sector exceeded 36,000, said Zhu Guoqiang, deputy director of the administration committee at Hengdian Chinese Film Industrial Park. Tourism, catering and hotel services, costume-making and rental for film equipment and props constitute the majority of the service sector in the town.

There are 14 featured shows scattered at different scenic locations around the studios. They derive from the characteristics of the location or are inspired by the films or TV dramas shot there.
"All the shows at Hengdian studios are performed for limited periods. We are continuously creating something new," Zeng said.

As well as tourists, crews are also the main clients of hotels. Zhou said that there are at present about 40 crews shooting in the studios and there have been 50 at the same time.
Currently, the hotel accommodation capacity of Hengdian contributes more than half that of Dongyang, its governing county-level city, with the total number of beds exceeding 15,000. However, its potential remains big because, during the peak travel season, some tourists stay at hotels within an hour's drive from Hengdian.

As the largest base in China for the rental of film and TV production equipment and film props and the hiring of extras, Hengdian exports a variety of resources related to the industry to other areas where filming is being undertaken.

huangying@chinadaily.com.cn

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2012-05/28/content_15398428.htm

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2012, 09:48:30 PM »
This was one of my wishlist routes:


Here is another one:

Leg 1: USA (LAX) - China (Shanghai)
Leg 2: China (Nanning, Guangxi)
Leg 3: China-Laos (Vientiane)
Leg 4: Laos-New Zealand (Palmerston North)
Leg 5: New Zealand-India (Pondicherry)
Leg 6: India (Tiruchirappalli)
Leg 7: India-Kenya (Mombasa)
Leg 8: Kenya-Switzerland (Zurich)
Leg 9: Switzerland-Slovakia (Bratislava)
Leg 10: Slovakia-Sierra Leone (Freetown)
Leg 11: Sierra Leone-UK (London)
Leg 12: UK-USA

What an epic route!
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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #93 on: May 27, 2012, 10:19:59 PM »
OMG a earthquake just happened in China...TAR Curse again

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #94 on: May 27, 2012, 10:27:35 PM »
No worries. This was 4.6 quake on the Richter scale, which typically is not very damaging. It hit in Hebei, east of Beijing and a long way from Shanghai.

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #95 on: May 27, 2012, 10:49:08 PM »
i hope they go to my home province of fujian...probably not since it's so small!

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #96 on: May 28, 2012, 12:13:43 AM »
so weihen, what might they be eating here?


Teams make their way to CuiPing Restaurant(翠萍酒家).

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #97 on: May 28, 2012, 12:19:27 AM »
so weihen, what might they be eating here?


Teams make their way to CuiPing Restaurant(翠萍酒家).

RB:eating Papaya stewed with snow clams(木瓜雪蛤)

http://about-chinesefood.com/cookbook/stewed-papaya-with-snow-clam-69/

Frogs?

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Re: TAR 21 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #98 on: May 28, 2012, 12:22:12 AM »
Might not be so bad... I like nearly everything that swims! Hopping...another story! :lol:
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« Reply #99 on: May 28, 2012, 12:26:53 AM »
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006060311161

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Snow Frog Jelly (Hasma) - It's part of a traditional Chinese sweet dessert soup (tong sui). The soup can be served hot or cold, and has transluscent white gelatinous blobs floating herein. Those blobs are the "secretions from the glands of the snow frog."


 

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