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Offline slayton

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The last time that I remember Phil mentioning seasons that were notable to him was around the end of TAR14, and I agreed with his assessment at the time

I was shocked by this interview with Phil, where he said that TAR20 was "in the top three of all seasons ever."

What do you all think?


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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 08:59:30 PM »
It definitely is! :hearts: :hoot:
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 09:01:52 PM »
I really don't think so.

It was nice to see Dave and Rachel winning everything , because they really are nice people , but this season had too much weak teams, IMO
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 09:11:22 PM »
The direct quote from the article slayton posted is:

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"This has got to go in the top three of all seasons ever, just with the drama and the cast."

For me, I have to agree there. Between Brendon & Rachel, Vanessa & Ralph,  and Art & JJ, there was enough drama to last for a few seasons. :lol:

In all seriousness though, I was thoroughly disappointed with nearly everything about TAR19... the cast, the locations, the challenges, etc. It was very disheartening, since TAR is (obviously :lol:) my favorite show, and I thought the show had finally lost its magic for me. But after seeing this season, I couldn't have been happier. There was the occasional dumb challenge every now and then, but overall, I really felt this was a very strong season.

I voted 'yes' in the poll, and if I really sat down and thought about it, maybe it wouldn't be in my top 3, but it would absolutely make my top 5. It definitely restored my faith in this show after the disappointment that was TAR19, that's for sure. :tup:

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 10:11:13 PM »
I don't know if it's one of the top three, I'd have to think about that, but I know that it is probably my favorite double digit season (I haven't seen 11 and 12 yet). In the top five I'd say.


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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 10:17:55 PM »
This season has a weak cast. 3/4 of them are not memorable. And the editing is super horrible!
The locations & some tasks were fantastic & gorgeous though.
In my top 10 but not top 3.
TAR 5, 11 & 17 are my top 3.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 10:57:17 PM »
I beg to differ with Phil.

I would say Top 10.

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 12:12:15 AM »
for me, its a yes and no

BEFORE TAR20, my top 5 was

1. TAR10
2. TAR12
3. TAR5
4. TAR7
5. TAR17

AFTER TAR20, my top 5 is

1. TAR10
2. TAR12
3. TAR5
4. TAR20
5. TAR7

so yes, it was a great season, but not in my top 3

cast - yes, the cast age range was from 25-45, but it truly was an entertaining cast. there were loveable teams, and teams we loved to hate
BUT despite the boot order, i was happy with the outcome, and the final 3 were the 3 strongest teams and they deserved their spot there
and an awesome team won

locations - Argentina, Paraguay, Italy, Germany, Azerbaijan, Tanzania, India, Japan, Hawaii (if you ask me, those are some pretty diverse locations)
so yes i LOVED the places they went, Paraguay and Azerbaijan were well used, and both India legs were my favourite out of all the times the race has been there
and i can't forget TANZANIA! <3

challenges - BIG step up from recent seasons, out of the WHOLE race, there were about 5 total duds which were pretty bad tasks, but other than that the challenges were awesome, all challenges in Paraguay, Germany, India, Japan and Hawaii were brilliant, and the leg architecture in the majority of legs was well done

sorry for rambling, i just thought it was a really good season  :lol:

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 01:00:29 AM »
TAR10 is in my Top 3 too!  :hearts:
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 01:08:33 AM »
TAR10 is in my Top 3 too!  :hearts:

TAR10 was hands down my favourite season of all time, absolutely amazing  :luvya:
not even kidding, i could write an essay about why it was simply the best

but back to topic  :lol:
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 01:17:34 AM »
TAR10 is in my Top 3 too!  :hearts:

TAR10 was hands down my favourite season of all time, absolutely amazing  :luvya:

but back to topic  :lol:

Gotta agree on that one. TAR10 is what got me hooked. So for me it's:

1-TAR10
2-TAR5
3-TAR6 Or TAR11

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 01:30:52 AM »
I haven't done any exact comparisons.  But while it is one of the better ones overall, I would say it probably isn't in the top 5.  The cast make it good, but they didn't really travel that much compared to the classic ones.  So not enough countries (including no cold climate one), the tasks where good at times (but also too many budget tasks, needed some more spectacular ones in the more boring legs).  Also some legs seemed too short, and I liked it more when they navigated themselves over longer distances.  2 or 3 reasonably suspenseful endings, but many others depended on editing tricks to make them look close (often not that convincing).

My favourites would definitely include 3 and 7 (very strong final 3s with big characters), 3 might be my favourite.  11 and 12 weren't bad either, and 5 is pretty good.  All of those might be ahead of 20 for me.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 01:37:27 AM »
Having watched all seasons I think it is a Top 10 season but not Top 3. For me its:

1. TAR5
2. TAR3
3. TAR10
4. TAR17
5. TAR18
6. TAR7
7. TAR20
8. TAR12
9. TAR1
10. TAR11
11. TAR19
12. TAR14
13. TAR6
14. TAR2
15. TAR9
16. TAR13
17. TAR4
18. TAR15
19. TAR16
20. TAR8
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 03:14:00 AM »
My top 6:

TAR11
TAR10
TAR17
TAR5
TAR7
TAR20

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 04:30:46 AM »
While I love TAR20 and it is one of the better post TAR all-stars seasons, it is NOT in the top 3 of my favorite seasons.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 05:00:28 AM »
I think Phil is just into a "recency effect." That's why he said it... for me best TAR is TAR 9.... and also the family edition...
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 05:01:06 AM »
I haven't seen 10 yet, I did like Dustin and Kandice in 11.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 05:19:59 AM »
I haven't seen 10 yet, I did like Dustin and Kandice in 11.

you should definitely watch it  :tup: its my personal favourite season and I'm sure others loved it as well
diverse and awesome cast, incredible locations and great challenges
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 11:31:09 AM »
It's a hit & miss season. It was a big improvement from the last two seasons but still missing something.
Probly, my top 5 or 6.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 11:49:41 AM »
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. While TAR20 was a great season, and a HUGE improvement on its predecessor, it doesn't even come anywhere near the best seasons.

Bearing in mind that I haven't seen TAR1, I rank the other 19 seasons in this order:

1. TAR3
2. TAR6
3. TAR5
4. TAR7
5. TAR12
6. TAR18
7. TAR15
8. TAR11
9. TAR17
10. TAR13
11. TAR4
12. TAR20
13. TAR2
14. TAR9
15. TAR14
16. TAR8
17. TAR10
18. TAR16
19. TAR19
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 02:54:14 PM »
Everybody gets to express their own opinions with the proviso that they are unlikely to change anyone else's opinion. Although I do not agree with Prophet on which two seasons were better, I certainly do consider AR20 to be in the top 3 so far.

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 05:36:20 PM »
I feel TAR20 was a good season. It had very unique and difficult tasks, while some were bad. It was definitely a step up from TAR19. The cast, I thought, was memorable, however, did not have an old team. It provided some drama, which I thought was also an improvement from the calm cast of TAR19. It was a good season, but I can't say top 3 because I have only seen post All-Stars episodes and the Family Edition.

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 06:12:10 PM »
TAR10 is in my Top 3 too!  :hearts:

TAR10 was hands down my favourite season of all time, absolutely amazing  :luvya:

but back to topic  :lol:

Gotta agree on that one. TAR10 is what got me hooked. So for me it's:

1-TAR10
2-TAR5
3-TAR6 Or TAR11

It's crazy how opinions can differ so much. I rewatched season 10 recently and found myself a little bored with it, and also with season 11.

Off the top of my head, my top 3 may be 9, 18, and 7. Which I'm sure no one agrees with.

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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 06:36:08 PM »
TAR10 is in my Top 3 too!  :hearts:

TAR10 was hands down my favourite season of all time, absolutely amazing  :luvya:

but back to topic  :lol:

Gotta agree on that one. TAR10 is what got me hooked. So for me it's:

1-TAR10
2-TAR5
3-TAR6 Or TAR11

It's crazy how opinions can differ so much. I rewatched season 10 recently and found myself a little bored with it, and also with season 11.

Off the top of my head, my top 3 may be 9, 18, and 7. Which I'm sure no one agrees with.
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Re: Phil says that TAR20 is "in the top three of all seasons ever."
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2012, 04:04:04 AM »
One of the reasons why I rank TAR20 so low (in my previous post) is that because the eleven seasons I ranked above it had so many epic legs with amazing tasks and such. TAR20 was the best season ever in terms of drama, but I found it to be severely lacking in some of the tasks.

Each of the eleven seasons that I ranked above TAR20 had multiple legs which were close to flawless, in my opinion, whereas TAR20 had only two legs which were particularly memorable - those being Leg 3 and Leg 4. There were some interesting tasks on the rest of the race, but for every good task on a particular leg, there was also a bad task (for example, we had an epic Bollywood dancing Detour on Leg 9, followed by the easiest Detour I've ever seen). There were a few too many flaws with the tasks for me to rank TAR20 any high, unfortunately. :(
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