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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #775 on: February 26, 2012, 12:51:51 PM »
TARFanSurvivor and Zouly,,

Your map shows 10 pinpoints while 12 legs are needed for AR20. You must specify where the extra 3 legs will be to gain confidence that your list of countries is complete. I will agree with you if you say Tanzania, but not for any other country you have pinpointed. I believe there are still 2 unknown countries in AR20, all of them repeats from prior races.

Those may all be repeats of other countries in AR20, perhaps Tanzania or maybe Japan.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #776 on: February 26, 2012, 01:00:45 PM »
TARFanSurvivor,

Your map shows 9 pinpoints while 12 legs are needed for AR20. You must specify where the extra 3 legs will be to gain confidence that your list of countries is complete. I will agree with you if you say Tanzania, but not for any other country you have pinpointed. I believe there are still 2 unknown countries in AR20, all of them repeats from prior races.
Thanks apskip i think that
Leg 5 is Germany
Leg 6 and 7 is Azerbaijan
Leg 8 is Tanzania
Leg 9 is India
Leg 10 and 11 Japan or maybe 2 legs in Tanzania, i think that Germany and India will only have one leg.
Hope that you like my answar.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #777 on: February 26, 2012, 01:05:56 PM »
I have been lurking here a while and just registered.  Where has that photo been?  The lower person is wearing a red shirt so it has to be team 3.  The top looks very similar to the one Rachel(Rachel and Dave) is wearing at the starting line.

Also it looks like there are 2 bags hanging down from the building maybe counterweights or something.  On the other ropes those bags are at the top of the building.

Look's like Dave and Rachel to me also. Guess we know who final 3 are now.

All I see in that photo is a building with some ropes hanging down it. I see no racers what so ever. The only racers we can see in that photo set are Brendon & Rachel and presumably Art & JJ. The third team could still be anybody.

Actually if you zoom in on the high res copy you can see it pretty good:





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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #778 on: February 26, 2012, 01:08:49 PM »
TARFanSurvivor and Zouly,,

Your map shows 9 pinpoints while 12 legs are needed for AR20. You must specify where the extra 3 legs will be to gain confidence that your list of countries is complete. I will agree with you if you say Tanzania, but not for any other country you have pinpointed. I believe there are still 2 unknown countries in AR20, all of them repeats from prior races.


A lot of new info came out of the future episodes promo, that discussion is here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,26886.0.html
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #779 on: February 26, 2012, 01:13:27 PM »
This picture is taken 13 minutes after the one with the mystery team: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78286753@N00/6540491345/

All of the other Brenchel pics are taken later than that.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #780 on: February 26, 2012, 03:12:05 PM »
TARFanSurvivor,

Your map shows 9 pinpoints while 12 legs are needed for AR20. You must specify where the extra 3 legs will be to gain confidence that your list of countries is complete. I will agree with you if you say Tanzania, but not for any other country you have pinpointed. I believe there are still 2 unknown countries in AR20, all of them repeats from prior races.
Thanks apskip i think that
Leg 5 is Germany
Leg 6 and 7 is Azerbaijan
Leg 8 is Tanzania
Leg 9 is India
Leg 10 and 11 Japan or maybe 2 legs in Tanzania, i think that Germany and India will only have one leg.
Hope that you like my answar.

TARFanSurvivor,

It's close. 2 legs in Tanzania and 2 in Japan are strong possibilities. I agree that Germany will have only one leg, but who known on India. I really can't envision having 2 legs in Azerbaijan but that it is possibility. Some unknown countries from a list of previously visited countries (South Korea, Thailand, China, Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, Oman, Dubai, Sri Lanka, Cambodia are among them) are also possibilities. We have to wait unless some hard evidence clarifies what the final route is.

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #781 on: February 26, 2012, 03:14:38 PM »
This picture is taken 13 minutes after the one with the mystery team: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78286753@N00/6540491345/

All of the other Brenchel pics are taken later than that.

If the time stamps on the photos are correct it means the mystery team (Dave and Rachel) reached the roof first followed by Brenchel with Art and JJ in third.  It also means Brenchel spent almost 50 minutes on the roof.  Long prep times or rooftop challenge?

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #782 on: February 26, 2012, 03:58:22 PM »
I really can't envision having 2 legs in Azerbaijan but that it is possibility.

I THINK that Azerbaijan is ONE leg.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #783 on: February 26, 2012, 05:49:39 PM »
This picture is taken 13 minutes after the one with the mystery team: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78286753@N00/6540491345/

All of the other Brenchel pics are taken later than that.

If the time stamps on the photos are correct it means the mystery team (Dave and Rachel) reached the roof first followed by Brenchel with Art and JJ in third.  It also means Brenchel spent almost 50 minutes on the roof.  Long prep times or rooftop challenge?

Did we ever get a time stamp from the Art/JJ pics? I can't find the originals.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #784 on: February 26, 2012, 11:34:15 PM »
I think Art and JJ are third because of the counterweights and the bright white ropes that you can see in the pic.  After the team passes the rope is gone.  i don't see them in the art JJ pic.  No time stamp needed.


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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #785 on: February 27, 2012, 12:52:31 AM »
This picture is taken 13 minutes after the one with the mystery team: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78286753@N00/6540491345/

All of the other Brenchel pics are taken later than that.

If the time stamps on the photos are correct it means the mystery team (Dave and Rachel) reached the roof first followed by Brenchel with Art and JJ in third.  It also means Brenchel spent almost 50 minutes on the roof.  Long prep times or rooftop challenge?

That may or may not be true. From the  the photos we know the following:

1) The timestamps on photos of mystery team (Dave & Rachel?) gives us the best evidence that they were the first to start ascending the cables.

2) Mystery team had one member severely lagging the lead member on the ascent (having covered less than half the distance up the building while the lead member was almost at the top).

3) In the same set of photos, team Brenchel was seen almost at the top of the building just 16 minutes later.

4) Team Brenchel was the only team that the same photographer captured descending the building.

Based on point #2 above, plus point # 3... fact that team Brenchel both were at the top just 16 minutes after the lagging partner of mystery team still had more than half way to go, when combined with point #4, I think it's likely that team Brenchel overtook mystery team on the way up the building and was the first team to both reach the top , and therefore the first team to start descending.

The only thing that doesn't compute in this scenario is that the timestamps of team Brenchel descending are 50 minutes after they were almost at the top while ascending. Why the almost one hour delay between the near end of the ascension and the beginning of the descension?  But on the other hand, why no pictures of the mystery team descending if they were the first team to do so?

I wonder if the photographer could give us more details. I noticed that on the photographer's flicker account page there is button to "send flickrmail" to him. Does anyone here who has a flickr account want to try to "flickrmail" him to see if he can provide more details of what he saw that day?

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #786 on: February 27, 2012, 06:49:36 AM »
Do you think it was the same photographer, there were two photographers taking pictures that day, one took Brenchel's pic the other the M/M team? I checked the guy who took Brenchel's pics they were no other pics of any other teams that day unless I am missing something? :umn:

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« Reply #787 on: February 27, 2012, 07:36:29 AM »
Leg 4 episode quote is: "Taste your Salami" (Turin, Italy)

So Turin is before Germany :)

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #788 on: February 27, 2012, 07:44:35 AM »
Do you think it was the same photographer, there were two photographers taking pictures that day, one took Brenchel's pic the other the M/M team? I checked the guy who took Brenchel's pics they were no other pics of any other teams that day unless I am missing something? :umn:

I know that bspencer from flickr took the pics of Brenchel and the mystery team and that some guy on Twitter took the pics of Art and JJ.


I wonder if the photographer could give us more details. I noticed that on the photographer's flicker account page there is button to "send flickrmail" to him. Does anyone here who has a flickr account want to try to "flickrmail" him to see if he can provide more details of what he saw that day?

If someone does this, could they post here so that he doesn't get tons of people messaging him :lol:
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #789 on: February 27, 2012, 09:42:10 PM »
I think you should talk to peach before messaging anybody on flickr. I'm sure she's already done everything she could.

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #790 on: February 28, 2012, 10:28:52 AM »
I think you should talk to peach before messaging anybody on flickr. I'm sure she's already done everything she could.

I was the one who stumbled upon bspencer's pictures and I recall that he was contacted at the time. I wouldn't recommend hitting him with more questions as I'm fairly sure we did that a couple of months back.

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #791 on: March 09, 2012, 11:24:04 PM »
You need to quote what you are looking at maybe?? All that seems to not be correct to me. You can do that in speculation, this thread is just for ep 4, where we know they come in first. :tup:

Yeah whoops. Something went wrong. Still, Art and JJ are gone at some point. Probably not this leg, but the next. Foresee double U-turn next leg. Sorry I know you hate me doing this but there's no Episode 5 thread.


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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #792 on: March 09, 2012, 11:49:05 PM »
You need to quote what you are looking at maybe?? All that seems to not be correct to me. You can do that in speculation, this thread is just for ep 4, where we know they come in first. :tup:

Yeah whoops. Something went wrong. Still, Art and JJ are gone at some point. Probably not this leg, but the next. Foresee double U-turn next leg. Sorry I know you hate me doing this but there's no Episode 5 thread.

Yes I agree , Art & Jj are gone at some point ....................................................After they win the whole damn thing !!

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #793 on: March 09, 2012, 11:55:22 PM »
why do you assume that art and jj are gone so early?

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #794 on: March 10, 2012, 02:34:41 AM »
 I think   based on clothes matched in Hawaii...Art/JJ made to F3...but it is just spec.

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« Reply #795 on: March 10, 2012, 04:35:26 AM »
I think   based on clothes matched in Hawaii...Art/JJ made to F3...but it is just spec.

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« Reply #796 on: March 10, 2012, 06:21:40 AM »


And will Brenchel's romance last the season?

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« Reply #797 on: March 10, 2012, 08:40:34 AM »


If the time stamps on the photos are correct it means the mystery team (Dave and Rachel) reached the roof first followed by Brenchel with Art and JJ in third.  It also means Brenchel spent almost 50 minutes on the roof.  Long prep times or rooftop challenge?

Some of the mandatory safety briefings for tasks can be quite long, and since they don't make good television, we never see them on screen.

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #798 on: March 10, 2012, 08:55:50 AM »
I think   based on clothes matched in Hawaii...Art/JJ made to F3...but it is just spec.

Leg-3 Curse "usually" made team on Final 3 and get 3rd place or second at its best...

also based on their edit, I would spec they are in the F3 as well.
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« Reply #799 on: March 10, 2012, 11:23:20 AM »
Not just cuz im a fan and i dont follow the other teams if they are twitter or other social media but after following them for over 2 yrs their is just something about them post TAR.Obviously they haven't said anything or hinted how they have done.But i do notice brendon has spent less time on social media and even Rachel is not on that much, i think that it is a way not to accidently tell people if they won.Since post race she has started her new project with her sister now i know she was going to start it,but i would start if i knew i had won a lot money,thats just me?And just other little things like that make me think they won.Now they could just be happy cuz they came in 2nd and had a great time together but just a gut feeling they won.Plus they need the money more then the other two teams i think are in the top 3 since Rachel doesnt have a steady job and Brendon is doing his PHD plus they need to support Benz!


 

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