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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2011, 11:04:25 AM »
Now it could be Peru  :lol3:


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« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2011, 11:08:47 AM »
Argentina and Peru??!

Both destinations fly to a particular city I will not mention, because it is believed to be false.  :lol:
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2011, 11:10:20 AM »
Maybe one flight is conecting in Buenos Aires to Lima and the other one is a direct flight  :duno:

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #103 on: November 27, 2011, 11:11:39 AM »
BOTH the tweeters about Lima are brand new, we need a pic or somethng before trusting this.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #104 on: November 27, 2011, 11:13:11 AM »
Definitely, because of the arrival times, I'd say that if the destination was Lima or Buenos Aires, some teams would get REALLY far behind than others; most probably, those who would have to go to their destination (the ones in Lima if the destination is Buenos Aires, or the ones in BA if the destination is Lima) would probably have to wait for the following day to get on a flight.

What if it's another place? I mean, having Buenos Aires and Lima as transfer points only.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #105 on: November 27, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »
Maybe one flight is conecting in Buenos Aires to Lima and the other one is a direct flight  :duno:

The time difference would be really wide talking about a first leg, I think...
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« Reply #106 on: November 27, 2011, 11:15:38 AM »

What if it's another place? I mean, having Buenos Aires and Lima as transfer points only.

If that is the case the options could be La Paz, Asuncion or Santiago.

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« Reply #107 on: November 27, 2011, 11:17:50 AM »

What if it's another place? I mean, having Buenos Aires and Lima as transfer points only.

If that is the case the options could be La Paz, Asuncion or Santiago.

Or any little city in Perϊ that depends on any bigger airport?
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« Reply #108 on: November 27, 2011, 11:24:15 AM »
Can some cross reference this:

When is the LIma flight landing and when is the Buenos Aires flight landing? Secondly see if there is any flights leaving ASAP from each of these cities to the other one and check their landing times as well.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #109 on: November 27, 2011, 11:28:13 AM »
What if it's another place? I mean, having Buenos Aires and Lima as transfer points only.

I doubt they have 2 transit points (Miami & Lima/BA) for the 1st leg.


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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2011, 11:30:30 AM »
Can some cross reference this:

When is the LIma flight landing and when is the Buenos Aires flight landing? Secondly see if there is any flights leaving ASAP from each of these cities to the other one and check their landing times as well.

Lima one at around 1800.

Buenos Aires one arrives at 2150.

The first flight then from Lima to Buenos Aires departs at 2205 and arrives at 0425 (+1)...
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2011, 11:31:58 AM »
What if it's another place? I mean, having Buenos Aires and Lima as transfer points only.

I doubt they have 2 transit points (Miami & Lima/BA) for the 1st leg.

BTW, if we're assuming Lima or BA are the destination, some teams are ALREADY going via 2 transit points.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2011, 11:41:45 AM »
So, if there are no more hoaxes, and we *think* Lima and Buenos Aires are possible, we could have this by the moment.



Now, we should see what is production's choice: staying in Lima, staying in Buenos Aires or going to another city.

Staying in Lima would give teams who flew directly there a 10-hour lead or so.

Staying in Buenos Aires would give teams who flew there a big lead too.

That's why I'm thinking of another city.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2011, 11:46:32 AM »
Don't trust Peru yet, we have nothing but tweets from brand new twits. :res:
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2011, 11:49:42 AM »
might be final we see Machu Picchu

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #115 on: November 27, 2011, 11:51:08 AM »
Don't trust Peru yet, we have nothing but tweets from brand new twits. :res:

I don't trust it 100%, I'm only supposing it could be right.

In case it was not right, would we have ALL teams flying together from the LAX to Buenos Aires in the same planes?
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #116 on: November 27, 2011, 11:52:35 AM »
Looking at the map with routes above, I would guess leg 1 is either in Bolivia (La Paz, Cochamba, or Santa Cruz) or Paraguay (Asuncion) is reachable from both Lima and Buenos Aires.

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« Reply #117 on: November 27, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »
Well in past season there are usually 2 flights. One having the advantage. Since American Airlines is a sponsor they are, or one of their partners,   have the best flight. Its possible the teams actually split up on the two different flights in Miami, and we wont see that on TV.  What we might see are "two flights" departing LAX at different times, when in reality we will know it was Miami.

So Teams could be transiting through Lima to get to the real first leg. Just as other teams are transiting through Buenos Aires.

Or we are being lead a stray. :P

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« Reply #118 on: November 27, 2011, 02:27:30 PM »
If TAR 20 did start in the Santa Barbara area, one site that jumps out to me immediately as a scenic and photogenic starting location is the Santa Barbara Mission (http://santabarbaramission.org/). It's considered the most beautiful of the Spanish Missions built in California. Less likely would be Hearst Castle (http://www.hearstcastle.org/) ( the massive estate that William Randolph Hearst built in 1920s-1940s) and the town of Solvang (http://www.solvangusa.com/ - sort of a mock up of a Danish village). Hearst Castle is fabulous, but it's about 150 miles up the coast from Santa Barbara (230 miles from Los Angeles) and that would be a really long drive from there to LAX. Solvang is about 30 to 40 miles up the coast and I really don't think it's special enough to make the cut for TAR. I looked around on sites for all three places and couldn't find any indication that any of them were closed yesterday. However, they are all busy tourist attractions, so it seems likely that we would have seen some tweets in they were filming there.

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« Reply #119 on: November 27, 2011, 02:35:01 PM »
I think It's start location before going to airport. I'm not sure.

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« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2011, 02:36:55 PM »
It looks like Phil is responding to someone suggesting that the Race go to Vanuatu.
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« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2011, 02:44:20 PM »
Thing is there is no way to know if they were just walking by there.

True, but if you look at a map of LAX, they'd have to walk a very long way to get there if they were in any other terminal. And to be honest, production probably isn't too keen on them wandering around the entire airport. I think its safe to say that this team are departing from Terminal 4.

American Airlines, American Eagle and Qantas all fly out of terminal 4

I flew Qantas this summer to Australia and back from New Zealand. To quote from the website for Qantas at LAX, "Check-in now opens at 2pm for evening Qantas departures from both Tom Bradley International Terminal and American Airlines Terminal 4." I can state with certainty that Qantas operates out of Bradley International Terminal as well as Terminal 4. 

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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2011, 02:50:24 PM »
If TAR 20 did start in the Santa Barbara area, one site that jumps out to me immediately as a scenic and photogenic starting location is the Santa Barbara Mission (http://santabarbaramission.org/). It's considered the most beautiful of the Spanish Missions built in California. Less likely would be Hearst Castle (http://www.hearstcastle.org/) ( the massive estate that William Randolph Hearst built in 1920s-1940s) and the town of Solvang (http://www.solvangusa.com/ - sort of a mock up of a Danish village). Hearst Castle is fabulous, but it's about 150 miles up the coast from Santa Barbara (230 miles from Los Angeles) and that would be a really long drive from there to LAX. Solvang is about 30 to 40 miles up the coast and I really don't think it's special enough to make the cut for TAR. I looked around on sites for all three places and couldn't find any indication that any of them were closed yesterday. However, they are all busy tourist attractions, so it seems likely that we would have seen some tweets in they were filming there.

Hearst Castle and Solvang are both a long way from LAX. Santa Barbara is about 100 miles and a straight shot down freeways. Your logic on distances is sound, plaidmoon. It isn't going to be either Hearst Castle or Solvang.
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Re: TAR 20 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2011, 03:23:51 PM »
Let me offer some pure spec. The assumption that some have been making that teams would transfer to AA961 to go to Buenos Aires is probably not correct. that flight left at 1109 and is scheduled to arrive at 2139 (which I think is 739pm EST). However, there was an earlier flight from MIA EZE AR303 which left at 0900 arriving EZE 2018. That difference of 1 hour 21 minutes is crucial because there is a flight PZ700 from AEP (the other major Buenos Aires airport on the other side of the city center) leaving at 2210 arriving Asuncion 2359. That is a possible connection as teams will not have checked baggage, but they will have to hustle to make it. 

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« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2011, 03:58:10 PM »
When Brendon was evicted from the house for the second time he did say it was his "reality tv retirement" so for him to come back months later would be hypocritical.
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