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S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« on: October 29, 2011, 03:55:52 AM »
WITH A POTENTIAL MERGE ON THE HORIZON, ONE TRIBE PUTS ON AN ELABORATE SHOW IN HOPES OF GAINING THE UPPER HAND ON THEIR COMPETITION, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, NOV. 2
 
     CHEAT TWEET: Is it merge time? Do you think Ozzy & Savaiiís gamble will pay off? Find out on #Survivor Wednesday, 11/2 @ 8pmET/PT! http://bit.ly/vmv0w1
 
 
"Double Agent" ó With a potential merge on the horizon, one tribe puts on an elaborate show in hopes of gaining the upper hand on their competition, and an unlikely castaway holds all the power at a game-changing Tribal Council, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 03:56:26 AM »
saved for any vids we can find!
 
Promo (thanks tarobbsessed!)
 
 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6ra1ESMyDa0?version=3&amp;amp;hl" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/6ra1ESMyDa0?version=3&amp;amp;hl</a>
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 07:44:08 AM »
I would guess that the merge is next, at least if they are following the same format as last season by having all the active players watch the final duel.  In the episode preview, there is a shot of the key and you can see two Savaii members sitting in two different rows of the arena, which leads me to believe that everyone is at the duel.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 03:52:17 PM »
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and an unlikely castaway holds all the power at a game-changing Tribal Council

How unlikely, Cochran.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 04:50:16 PM »
How many agents will this season have :res: :lol:
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 05:17:38 PM »
Thanks for the link, tarobbsessed!

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 12:37:33 AM »
Peach can we get caps of the promo to see if we see Ozzy or Christine in the merge toast?

BUT I have this one.. that blonde hair doesnt look like Whitney...
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 01:11:13 AM »
That hair does look like Christines!  :hearts:

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 01:16:55 AM »
Sorry guys, I don't do the caps for Survivor but Survivor Fever has them already:

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s23_ep8_wp.html
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 01:58:46 AM »
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Episode 7: Voted to Redemption Island

 ** Ozzy spoiled by maxxfisher to win the Episode 8 duel **

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 02:01:48 AM »
Okay I regretted looking at spoilers but SurvivorFever has Keith as the next boot. -.-

Cochran, that slimey... :groan:

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 02:06:20 AM »
I don't mind Cochran now, seeing as he has an alliance with Dawn.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2011, 02:07:56 AM »
I don't mind Cochran now, seeing as he has an alliance with Dawn.

I DO hope Cochran protects Dawn.

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 05:54:34 AM »
I knew it that Cochran was going to betray his alliance.When I was watching Episode 7, I was praying to god that Ozzy does not volunteer himself to be sent to RI.Too bad for Christine that she is going to lose.I also read on MaxxFisher Spoiler that they used the HII on Whitney as every Savaii Member thought that she was going home but looks like it a bad day for Keith.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 07:29:27 PM »
Okay I regretted looking at spoilers but SurvivorFever has Keith as the next boot. -.-

Cochran, that slimey... :groan:

Oh, I already knew Keith was going to go home -- and that Cochran was going to flip for real.  I learned it last Friday, when I found out that Maxx Fisher had spoiled that Keith would go home and that Cochran would flip for real.  I just didn't think it was a good idea to tell you until you found out.  I think Cochran panics and that's why he decides to flip.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 08:04:51 AM »
I think Cochran has been making some good moves and has come a long way from the old Cochran. I could see him winning. <3 Of course, it would be awesome if Christine won too. <333
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2011, 10:01:48 AM »
I really hope Ozzy does come back. He is like my favorite player outside of Russell Hantz.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2011, 04:08:01 PM »
I don't mind Cochran now, seeing as he has an alliance with Dawn.

I DO hope Cochran protects Dawn.

I really like Dawn a lot.  Can't stand Cochran but I can understand why he would flip.  He absolutely cannot be cool, calm, and collected.  He flips out and scrambles.  It's quite sad honestly.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2011, 05:39:28 PM »
I know this may seem a bit Farfetch'd, but with Keith going, methinks that Ozzy and then Whitney will get the boot. After that, I think this could be a Tocantins redux in which Coach destroys his tribe allowing Dawn/Cochran/Jim to pull in an Upolu or 2 (Brandon/Edna) and maybe they'll ride that out to the Final 5. Then again, maybe this is just me still holding on to the impossible dream Final 3 of Cochran, Dawn, and Edna.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2011, 09:09:23 PM »
Cochran, Dawn and Edna final 3 is awful. I don't even want to see that happen. I would love to see Ozzy win the money but if not I want to see Coach win the money  :snicker: Ozzy is one of the greatest players ever. GO OZZY!

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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2011, 10:02:45 PM »
Ozzy is...one of the most idiotic players on Survivor. I really hope Christine kicks his butt just because he made that stupid move.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 11:01:46 PM »
Ozzy is one of the greatest players ever. GO OZZY!
Really? A guy who was extremely arrogant and had no social game the 1st time, got voted out with a HII in his pocket the 2nd time, and asked his tribe to VOTE HIM OUT is one of the greatest players ever? That makes absolutely no sense. I mean, I like Ian Rosenberger from Palau a lot, but do I think he's one of the greatest players? No.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2011, 11:26:59 PM »
Jeff's Tout:

http://www.tout.com/m/idm814#
 
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2011, 07:55:34 AM »
Ozzy is one of the greatest players ever. GO OZZY!
Really? A guy who was extremely arrogant and had no social game the 1st time, got voted out with a HII in his pocket the 2nd time, and asked his tribe to VOTE HIM OUT is one of the greatest players ever? That makes absolutely no sense. I mean, I like Ian Rosenberger from Palau a lot, but do I think he's one of the greatest players? No.

We can disagree. I love his energy in the game, he is a very good competitor and smart enough to win the game. I love this move by him because of he comes back in the game he is RESPECTED by his entire tribe. If he gets to the final he will win and his former tribe will respect him 100 %. I don't think Ozzy's social game is that bad honestly. He will win every vote! GO OZZY!

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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2011, 04:58:33 AM »
Wow... What could be the biggest move in Survivor history is thwarted by one single person by the name of Cochran. Poor Ozzy, to have calculated and have everything happen so perfectly, yet not seeing that one of his own would betray their tribe.

I think Keith would do well on Redemption Island though. After all, he's a strong competitor. But I wouldn't go as far as to say he'd make it back into the game. Ozzy still has a chance to survive. Upolu would target him after Keith, but he has the HII, he's strong at challenges, and that could buy him a long time into the game.

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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2011, 09:50:12 AM »
Wow... What could be the biggest move in Survivor history is thwarted by one single person by the name of Cochran. Poor Ozzy, to have calculated and have everything happen so perfectly, yet not seeing that one of his own would betray their tribe.

I think Keith would do well on Redemption Island though. After all, he's a strong competitor. But I wouldn't go as far as to say he'd make it back into the game. Ozzy still has a chance to survive. Upolu would target him after Keith, but he has the HII, he's strong at challenges, and that could buy him a long time into the game.

I'm loving this season, it's full of big, weird moves and betrayals. I just hope that at the end, it's not Coach or Ozzy who walks away with the million...

Not if he gives it to someone else and that person uses it only to find out that the real target was Keith!  Then the HII wouldn't help Ozzy out any.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2011, 11:55:11 AM »
Wow... What could be the biggest move in Survivor history is thwarted by one single person by the name of Cochran. Poor Ozzy, to have calculated and have everything happen so perfectly, yet not seeing that one of his own would betray their tribe.

I think Keith would do well on Redemption Island though. After all, he's a strong competitor. But I wouldn't go as far as to say he'd make it back into the game. Ozzy still has a chance to survive. Upolu would target him after Keith, but he has the HII, he's strong at challenges, and that could buy him a long time into the game.

I'm loving this season, it's full of big, weird moves and betrayals. I just hope that at the end, it's not Coach or Ozzy who walks away with the million...

Not if he gives it to someone else and that person uses it only to find out that the real target was Keith!  Then the HII wouldn't help Ozzy out any.

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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2011, 07:10:11 PM »
The RI Duel is unlocking themselves out of cages again.

The winner gets back into the game!
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2011, 07:11:08 PM »
Building poles to reach the keys

Ozzy is making a long strong pole; Christine using a short weak pole

Hers breaks! Ozzy trying
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2011, 07:13:00 PM »
Ozzy has a key barely! His pole breaks!

Christine repairs her pole

Ozzy has the key again; he has his first

Ozzy has his second key! :groan:

Ozzy has all three! :groan:

Ozzy is back in the game! :(

Christine :torche :torche :torche :torche
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2011, 07:13:36 PM »
Arrrghhh Ozzy!

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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2011, 07:14:04 PM »
We have a merged tribe!
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2011, 07:23:44 PM »
My god, Ozzy is a terrible actor.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2011, 07:26:22 PM »
Cochran looks like an evil little troll. He's just missing his large pointed ears, hidden of course.  :jam:

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2011, 07:31:37 PM »
IIC: Last man and last woman standing both win Immunity!

Stand on a perch and hold a coconut on a rope while adding more rope at intervals.

Cool challenge! I love Individual Immunity Challenges.

Edna and Cochran are already out.
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2011, 07:32:39 PM »
Yay Dawn! :)
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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2011, 07:32:45 PM »
Whitney is out. Sophie is out. Dawn wins women's Individual Immunity! :hearts:
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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2011, 07:33:45 PM »
Coach is out. Rick is out. Jim is out. :yess: Keith is out.

It's Albert, Brandon, or Ozzy.
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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2011, 07:34:58 PM »
Brandon out.

Albert is out.

Ozzy and Dawn have Individual Immunity!
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« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2011, 07:49:19 PM »
It's Savaii vs Upolu at TC

Ozzy says "they" have the idol
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« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2011, 07:50:46 PM »
Ozzy plays the Idol for Whitney!
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« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2011, 07:51:39 PM »
Keith - 6
Rick - 6

Tied!
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« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2011, 07:52:09 PM »
Time to re-vote

this is epic!
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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2011, 07:53:41 PM »
Keith - 6
Rick - 4

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2011, 07:54:46 PM »
I think Cochran flipped

Brandon tells him to stay close to him
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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2011, 07:55:29 PM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOO :(

Poor Whitney, rooting for her now <3

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WTF at Brandon, "Its what you get for talking to people like that" "*to Cochran* Stay close to me" You're not a very good protector Brandon. :res:
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2011, 07:56:19 PM »
That was an interesting tribal council.

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« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2011, 07:58:28 PM »
That was an interesting tribal council.

I know! Yep Cochran flipped.

Next time, Jim tries to get people to vote off Cochran again. :lol:
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« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2011, 07:58:46 PM »
Whitney <3333

I hope next episode the preview was just a millionth of her telling of Cochran <3333333333333333333333333
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2011, 07:59:47 PM »
I really hope Dawn flips as well. But seriously, Brandon's little "Stay close to me, I'll protect you" nearly made me wet my pants.  :lol:

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« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2011, 08:03:49 PM »
Ummm. Good episode?
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« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2011, 08:05:06 PM »
Ugly little troll.  :knuckles:
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2011, 08:05:40 PM »
I hate Cochran! I hope Jim, Whitney and Ozzy go off on him! I am rooting for Keith to get back in the game!

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« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2011, 08:08:11 PM »
Wow... What could be the biggest move in Survivor history is thwarted by one single person by the name of Cochran. Poor Ozzy, to have calculated and have everything happen so perfectly, yet not seeing that one of his own would betray their tribe.

I think Keith would do well on Redemption Island though. After all, he's a strong competitor. But I wouldn't go as far as to say he'd make it back into the game. Ozzy still has a chance to survive. Upolu would target him after Keith, but he has the HII, he's strong at challenges, and that could buy him a long time into the game.

I'm loving this season, it's full of big, weird moves and betrayals. I just hope that at the end, it's not Coach or Ozzy who walks away with the million...

Not if he gives it to someone else and that person uses it only to find out that the real target was Keith!  Then the HII wouldn't help Ozzy out any.

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The spoiler has it that they used the HII on Whitney. -.-

Yeah, I knew the HII was given to Whitney but Keith got the votes.  I just didn't want to spoil it before the show began.

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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2011, 08:13:00 PM »
For once, I'm glad I wasn't spoiled Belle.  :hrt:

What on EARTH could Cochran possibly think he could explain away? I cannot wait to see the fallout.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2011, 09:48:34 PM »
I'm probably in the minority, but I was THRILLED with tonight's episode. Cochran stayed and Dawn is still here. My hope is that Cochran and Dawn can somehow get some epic plan going. Unless something happens, I'm guessing the next three boots (in order) will be Jim/Ozzy/Whitney. As for Dawn/Cochran, I could see them teaming up with Sophie and Brandon and making it to the Final 4.
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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2011, 10:57:29 PM »
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2011, 01:32:05 AM »
So Cochran flipped just to spite his former team. He wanted to take revenge and that was his sole reason.
Unless he is delusional enough to think that Upolu would keep him in the game over one of their members, which there is no way it's happening.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2011, 01:37:51 AM »
^ I know right. Unless the Final 7 Immunity challenge is nerd-tastic hes screwed.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2011, 02:57:03 AM »
The thing is Dawn is right, Cochran has been treated very badly by people on Savaii, Keith, Jim and Ozzy especially...and now Whitney is showing her true colours. Imo he made the right move, I wouldn't stay with people who treated me that way at all after 20 days with them!
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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2011, 04:26:43 AM »
Cochran played a game based on his own emotions. Technically, the odds of Savaii remaining the Top 6 are high and I have no idea WHY would he flipped if he's indeed a strategist, and that comes down to his emotions. He let his emotions take control of his vote.

With 2 Immunity, 1 Idol.. if they go into a second tie, the chances will be only him or Jim going home (Keith will be immuned)

On the other hand, 5 members on the other tribe has NO IMMUNITY at all. (Rick now has Immunity due to a second tie)

With 2 vs 5, their chances of picking a stone is possible, but almost 2 and a half times lesser than Upolu. Cochran never has a better chance in the game to play with Savaii all the way to the final 6. Joining forces with Upolu.. he's going to make it to 6th or 7th place the most. BUT, I can foresee Upolu bringing him further than that because ultimately, his tribe hates him and he's a great final three candidate, honestly.

I won't blame Cochran for him flipping, because Savaii treated him like dirt, but Dawn is right, what goes around comes around. His chances of winning this game is almost zero. Except from Dawn, I don't see anyone else from Savaii giving him the jury votes if he indeed makes the final three.

I don't mind him telling Upolu that he was a fake double agent, but going to the extend of telling Upolu Savaii's voting plan... that is not honourable and it will come to bite him back.

Enough of strategic talking, I love the Immunity Challenge today, very very refreshing and creative. I just wished Dawn stayed there and see how many more people she could take down before she quit the challenge, even though she win Immunity.

Next week, we see Jim trying to get Upolu members to do some serious flipping. I don't like Albert as he gives me a sneaky feeling. I am still rooting for Dawn, playing this game with her heart, integrity and being completely honest and having a good social game. I really hope Upolu doesn't target her yet, she's the only person I'm probably rooting for right now.. someone tell me why is Edna still around, she still seemed useless. Sigh. Go Edna, be an underdog and start making big moves...

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2011, 06:45:00 AM »
First of all, I was sad Christine went (but I actually wanted Ozzy to stay over Christine), especially since she was SO close!

Cochran was in that swing vote position. It was either making a move through his emotions or through his promise, and also between the luck with the rock and a betrayal with Savaii. I don't know if he made the best move. Staying true with Savaii in this round and then screwing them by swapping to Upolu would make more sense to me, but the luck of the rock would make betraying Savaii like the more safer choice. Would Cochran make it to the end with Savaii, had none of the Savaii members went home from the rock? Maybe, as Ozzy would be a target (Keith/Whitney/Jim aren't dumb to keep him) and the smartest one of the three would put Dawn/Cochran in their pocket. But all that coming from the risk of not having any Savaii members gone from the rock. If Cochran went with Upolu, there's a chance that before the other Savaii members are gone, someone from Upolu will approach Cochran (knowing his luck with things in this game!). Really so much to consider. :duno:

I'm so happy for Dawn (and Oz I guess) that she won immunity! :wohoo: She has one more thing to talk about as her asset if she gets to the FTC, and it's very unlikely people would target her for anything other than tribal lines (or late-game if someone thinks she's so likeable that she'll get votes).

And ohhhh that's why Whitney's there. For that fail Ozzy Idol. Poor Ozzy, never has luck with the Idol he finds, lucky he didn't find the idol in Cook Islands! It was also nice to see so much of Rick.

OMG the preview of the next eppy was quite interesting. I wonder if anyone else is gonna flip!
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2011, 07:49:49 AM »
There is a greater chance that Cochran will be the next one to go than if he had been eliminated by sticking with Savaii and drawing rocks.  Savaii is now royally screwed and the 5 that Cochran betrayed will be a majority of the jury.  If a few of the Upolu are willing to vote for Cochran along with the remaining 4 that were betrayed at the next Tribal Council, then sending Cochran's ass to redemption island ahead of them would do a lot to earn their 4 jury votes.  I think that what was what Sophie was referring to in the preview when she sais that Albert wants to shake up the game.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2011, 08:11:09 AM »
Poor little Cochran his feelings were hurt so he went to backstab his entire tribe. I hope Jim, Whitney, Ozzy and his entire tribe give it to him.

Poor Keith :( He was basically blindsided  :groan: I hope Cochran is going home and I hope Jim's plan works!

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2011, 08:19:24 AM »
I'm probably in the minority, but I was THRILLED with tonight's episode. Cochran stayed and Dawn is still here. My hope is that Cochran and Dawn can somehow get some epic plan going. Unless something happens, I'm guessing the next three boots (in order) will be Jim/Ozzy/Whitney. As for Dawn/Cochran, I could see them teaming up with Sophie and Brandon and making it to the Final 4.

I would like that too. :tup:

One thing I don't understand is how people can tolerate Jim more than Cochran. Jim is more slimy, IMO. Cochran is just being a strategist.
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2011, 09:13:18 AM »
I'm probably in the minority, but I was THRILLED with tonight's episode. Cochran stayed and Dawn is still here. My hope is that Cochran and Dawn can somehow get some epic plan going. Unless something happens, I'm guessing the next three boots (in order) will be Jim/Ozzy/Whitney. As for Dawn/Cochran, I could see them teaming up with Sophie and Brandon and making it to the Final 4.

I would like that too. :tup:

One thing I don't understand is how people can tolerate Jim more than Cochran. Jim is more slimy, IMO. Cochran is just being a strategist.

Completely with you on this. Didn't like him since Day 1 and wished other more deserving people like Mikayla gets to stay. =/ Or even Christine. At least she's exciting.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2011, 12:19:15 PM »
I don't care for Jim but how is Cochran more likable than Jim? Jim didn't turn on his tribe because some people made him upset.

Jim > Cochran.  :lol:

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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2011, 12:22:06 PM »
Contestants are all about personal preference, but at one point Jim did not like Cochran and then he did and now it looks like he wants to get rid of him again. I just like Cochran because he's a student of the game. :)
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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2011, 01:05:28 PM »
Let's just say... I like no one but Dawn. <3 :hrt:

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2011, 03:26:28 PM »
Cochran is a student of the game? LOL His move last night doesn't show it.

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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2011, 03:28:13 PM »
Cochran is a student of the game? LOL His move last night doesn't show it.

Savaii was in a losing battle because Ozzy had just wasted his Idol. JMO :)
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2011, 03:28:41 PM »
Poor little Cochran his feelings were hurt so he went to backstab his entire tribe. I hope Jim, Whitney, Ozzy and his entire tribe give it to him.

Poor Keith :( He was basically blindsided  :groan: I hope Cochran is going home and I hope Jim's plan works!

Well, the flip is the Savaii tribe fault. So much could have done to prevent flipping from happening. I really DON'T think the tribe was nice to him. All those fishing trips with the three guys, leaving him behind, and some comments they made, especially Keith, just showed that they didn't think of him any more than an extra vote. And then when Cochran shows hesitation of flipping, they should have played the idol on him to make him feel safe, instead of wasting it on Dawn. I mean, if Cochran didn't flip, it would only be him and Jim from Savaii drawng rocks [ Keith immune bc votes, Ozzy & Dawn have immunity, and Whitney had the idol played on her].

This episode just showed how much it's necessary to make everyone feel important.
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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2011, 04:29:37 PM »
Okay guys, Cochran did what he felt was best for him in the game. Whether you think it's a good move or not is up to you. But please don't post stuff about how he's stupid or a dumb player. I know I already did, and I will be editing that now. I just want this useless banter to stop. My rant for today is done.
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« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2011, 06:23:41 PM »
Poor little Cochran his feelings were hurt so he went to backstab his entire tribe. I hope Jim, Whitney, Ozzy and his entire tribe give it to him.

Poor Keith :( He was basically blindsided  :groan: I hope Cochran is going home and I hope Jim's plan works!

Well, the flip is the Savaii tribe fault. So much could have done to prevent flipping from happening. I really DON'T think the tribe was nice to him. All those fishing trips with the three guys, leaving him behind, and some comments they made, especially Keith, just showed that they didn't think of him any more than an extra vote. And then when Cochran shows hesitation of flipping, they should have played the idol on him to make him feel safe, instead of wasting it on Dawn. I mean, if Cochran didn't flip, it would only be him and Jim from Savaii drawng rocks [ Keith immune bc votes, Ozzy & Dawn have immunity, and Whitney had the idol played on her].

This episode just showed how much it's necessary to make everyone feel important.

I totally agree.  Most of Savaii failed to make Cochran feel comfortable -- Dawn was the only one who even came close to making the nerd feel comfortable.  Yul and Boston Rob knew to make the outliers in their tribes feel comfortable and worked at their alliances.  Ozzy didn't -- and he especially failed to make Cochran feel like a real member of the tribe.  Is it any wonder that Cochran was vulnerable to the suggestions from Upolu that he flipped?

Incidentally, I think Jim's plan is misdirection -- it won't work.  At least, not yet.

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2011, 06:49:31 PM »
We'll see. I want Cochran gone period! Hope he leaves this week!

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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2011, 12:39:23 AM »

Can someone please explain to me why Ozzy gave up the immunity idol to Whitney?   :duno:  I missed some time in the middle of the show, so I may have missed discussion of Whitney being at risk for being sent out to Redemption. 

Clarification appreciated!!  Thanks!


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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2011, 01:02:25 AM »

Can someone please explain to me why Ozzy gave up the immunity idol to Whitney?   :duno:  I missed some time in the middle of the show, so I may have missed discussion of Whitney being at risk for being sent out to Redemption. 

Clarification appreciated!!  Thanks!

I think the idea is that they believe that Upolu is "falsely targetting" Keith but in actual fact going to vote for Whitney. Some poor editing there, but that's what I got.. that's why Ozzy wants Whitney to use the Idol. I think Ozzy also "let out the fact that" they're going to use the Idol on Keith? I didn't see that anywhere but I think the idea's there and mentioned?? :duno:

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« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2011, 01:49:15 AM »
^ I think that their logic was based on the fact that they were sure that they would draw stones. At some point Ozzy says that Upolu would want the stronger players of Savaii to draw stones. So they would not vote Keith because then he would be immune from the drawing, so Upolu would vote for someone weak to be immune for the stones and so a strong player to be eliminated. Or something like that, equally convoluted!
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Re: S23 EP 8 "Double Agent"
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2011, 07:53:13 AM »

Thanks for the clarification - the logic doesn't make sense to me but now I see what they were thinking so thanks.

The idol for Ozzy could have been game changing; I think he may regret not holding on to it.  I am seeing this as Coach vs. Ozzy until the end, so we'll see . . . 

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« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2011, 10:30:51 AM »
^ I think that their logic was based on the fact that they were sure that they would draw stones. At some point Ozzy says that Upolu would want the stronger players of Savaii to draw stones. So they would not vote Keith because then he would be immune from the drawing, so Upolu would vote for someone weak to be immune for the stones and so a strong player to be eliminated. Or something like that, equally convoluted!

Oh yes!! That's it... :lol:

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« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2011, 11:23:09 PM »
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« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2011, 01:43:14 AM »
Brandon: "Stay close to me." :lol3:

Yes that comment was near priceless!!  Brandon has a new BFF.

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