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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #150 on: March 03, 2012, 05:15:39 PM »
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Must have hit quote instead of edit sorry..Mod please remove this post?? *looks sweetly @ Mod*  :)
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #151 on: March 03, 2012, 07:21:38 PM »
Hadewych the Mole, Liesbeth #1, Anne-Marie #2.

Or Liesbeth the Mole, Hadewych #1, Anne-Marie #2.
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #152 on: March 03, 2012, 07:49:35 PM »
Anne-Marie is the mole, Hadewych #1

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Liesbeth is the mole, Hadewych #1
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #153 on: March 03, 2012, 09:57:49 PM »
From the 5 episodes I've watched so far, I think Hadewych is the Mole. If Anne Marie or Leisbeth were the Mole, the show wouldn't be making such a big deal of contestants suspecting them.

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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #154 on: March 04, 2012, 01:35:43 AM »
Glad that Art Rooijakkers, too, added me to his friend list on Facebook.  :wohoo:

I watched part of S11. He looked so cute in that season! :kuss: So far he's done a great job hosting this season. Hope to see him in the next one!

From the 5 episodes I've watched so far, I think Hadewych is the Mole. If Anne Marie or Leisbeth were the Mole, the show wouldn't be making such a big deal of contestants suspecting them.
Agree. Editing makes me suspect Hadewych.

But setting Liesbeth as the Mole can explain many things to me. So I'm now wavering between them. :)

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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #155 on: March 04, 2012, 09:18:55 PM »
I couldn't stand to bear the wait, so I watched the episode in Dutch. I have a pretty decent idea of what happens in the end. I couldn't understand what the h*** was happening in the beginning. If you want info, PM me.

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« Reply #156 on: March 04, 2012, 10:19:33 PM »
I couldn't stand to bear the wait, so I watched the episode in Dutch. I have a pretty decent idea of what happens in the end. I couldn't understand what the h*** was happening in the beginning. If you want info, PM me.
No, I'll wait. :lol: I'm patient. ;)
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #157 on: March 04, 2012, 11:59:28 PM »
So, before we move onto the final reveal..

What are your predictions for the Finale??  :)

SuperTux, you mentioned you think Hadewych is the Mole, so who is the winner and runner-up according to you?  ;)

Georgiapeach, ZouLy, Squall16 - what are your thoughts??  :)

I think Anne-Marie is the mole, and I hope Hadewych wins!! But I still don't know what all the major clues are and the 4236 is really bothering me too lol. It's probably nothing.

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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #158 on: March 05, 2012, 03:11:15 AM »
I couldn't stand to bear the wait, so I watched the episode in Dutch. I have a pretty decent idea of what happens in the end. I couldn't understand what the h*** was happening in the beginning. If you want info, PM me.
Info on what, on how you didn't understand it??  :lol3:
Oh and if you decide you 'can't wait anymore' next week, be so nice to NOT go and tell people here, because that would ruin the outcome for some people who actually want to watch the show:)

Sorry people but this has been a very busy weekend for everyone here mainly due to holidays (and a conference in the US, and birthday celebrations...) which means that the only help I was offered also bailed out, alas. :(

I'll try to get his part done as soon as I can and have it ready here asap. :)
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 03:23:06 AM by Topita »
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #159 on: March 05, 2012, 05:50:16 AM »
I couldn't stand to bear the wait, so I watched the episode in Dutch. I have a pretty decent idea of what happens in the end. I couldn't understand what the h*** was happening in the beginning. If you want info, PM me.
Info on what, on how you didn't understand it??  :lol3:
Oh and if you decide you 'can't wait anymore' next week, be so nice to NOT go and tell people here, because that would ruin the outcome for some people who actually want to watch the show:)

Sorry people but this has been a very busy weekend for everyone here mainly due to holidays (and a conference in the US, and birthday celebrations...) which means that the only help I was offered also bailed out, alas. :(

I'll try to get his part done as soon as I can and have it ready here asap. :)
Exactly, so that's why I said to PM me for info. I kinda know what happened. I take German in school, so the words are kinda similar.


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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #160 on: March 05, 2012, 03:39:05 PM »
I know I'm stating the obvious Coolio, but unfortunately some people see fit to spoil other people's fun by posting spoilers. :(
Hence my request.  ;)

Well once again sorry about the slight delay but with all the IRL stuff and holidays going on here, it was a bit trickier as if was down to just me to do it this time. :) But, finally, it's all done now.  :lol:

I apologize for it being a 5 part thing, for some odd reason you tube didn't allow part three to be uploaded in complete so I had to make an extra part.


Enjoy!  :tup:  :wohoo:


THE MOLE ICELAND & SPAIN - EPISODE 9

PART 1:

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PART 2:

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PART 3:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1ySFEUx4Vk8" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/1ySFEUx4Vk8</a>


PART 4:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/aZn4soqaOaw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/aZn4soqaOaw</a>

 
PART 5:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/5UyxXR8ZY-A" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/5UyxXR8ZY-A</a>
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 04:47:41 PM by Topita »
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #161 on: March 06, 2012, 02:43:48 AM »
In the question 21 concerning Quartet game in this episode, only two choices were given, not three.

Does it mean that
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Liesbeth
is not the Mole?

ETA: My final guess:
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Anne-Marie the winner, Hadewych the Mole, Liesbeth the loser.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2012, 02:53:45 AM by SuperTux »
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #162 on: March 06, 2012, 03:23:47 AM »
In the question 21 concerning Quartet game in this episode, only two choices were given, not three.
Does it mean that
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Liesbeth
is not the Mole?
Obviously I don't know the answer to that yet.  :lol:
Can't remember that they ever used such clues before.  :duno:

Thing is though in another test-question there was also a 'mistake', i.e. question No. 28, how much money did the Mole's envelope contain.
Anne-Marie's contained €1250,- not €1500,-

Personally I don't think the lack of one specific answer would be a hint, but who knows.  :)
Not sure why they did it, perhaps to get some suspicion on one or two people.  :lol:
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #163 on: March 06, 2012, 05:27:34 PM »


Thing is though in another test-question there was also a 'mistake', i.e. question No. 28, how much money did the Mole's envelope contain.
Anne-Marie's contained €1250,- not €1500,-

Personally I don't think the lack of one specific answer would be a hint, but who knows.  :)
Not sure why they did it, perhaps to get some suspicion on one or two people.  :lol:

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I think they only put 2 answers for the other two contestants.

My prediction
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Leisbeth -- Runner Up; Anne-Marie -- Mole; Hadewych -- WINNER!

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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #164 on: March 07, 2012, 05:36:53 AM »
Just a few more days before we'll know for sure.  :)

But my final prediction is the same as yours Squall.  :lol:
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #165 on: March 08, 2012, 07:03:48 PM »
Anne-Marie is the mole, Hadewych #1

or

Liesbeth is the mole, Hadewych #1


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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #166 on: March 08, 2012, 07:14:59 PM »
WIE IS DE MOL FINALE 2012...  :jam: :jam: :jam:


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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #167 on: March 08, 2012, 10:25:16 PM »
I'm thinking about devising a special reward challenge for WIDM. Any contestant who's won the reward challenge can know his/her score in the quiz in this episode.
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #168 on: March 11, 2012, 10:55:48 AM »
I'm thinking about devising a special reward challenge for WIDM. Any contestant who's won the reward challenge can know his/her score in the quiz in this episode.

Cool! But that could almost SECURE them the win?

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« Reply #169 on: March 11, 2012, 06:18:49 PM »
Well guys it's time for the Final Reveal...  :wohoo:

We finally know the identity of the Mole, the Winner and the Runner-up..

What their sabotages were.. and what the clues were..  :keeta:  :conf:   :yess:  :hearts:

Hope you guys will enjoy it!!!  :)
Feel free to share your thoughts as per always!!  :tup:

Also a big shout out and many thanks to my friends and fellow Mole fans who helped out tremendously during this series with all their efforts in subtitling!!  :hrt: Awesome job guys!  :ghug:


Enjoy!  :tup:  :wohoo:


THE MOLE ICELAND & SPAIN - EPISODE 10

PART 1:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/bBm-8QHefjg" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/bBm-8QHefjg</a>


PART 2:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/5i0pEmZVlZU" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/5i0pEmZVlZU</a>


PART 3:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uFcXAVIK9Ls" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uFcXAVIK9Ls</a>


PART 4:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/PL-c2rnG2qY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/PL-c2rnG2qY</a>

 
PART 5:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XEFCYKbIoYw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/XEFCYKbIoYw</a>
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #170 on: March 11, 2012, 06:25:49 PM »
Extra footage on sabotages and Mole clues


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Extra Mole Clues in the titles of the episodes:

Episode 1:
Title: 'The first two hours'.
The Mole is the person to arrive at the Dakota first and resets the clock from 3 to 2 hours. She is also introduced first of all the contestants.

Episode 2:
Title: 'Minus' ('In de Min').
The Mole tries to change a 'times' into a 'minus' on the stair challenge at the waterfall.

Episode 3:
Title: 'No Sherades/ Not an Act' ('Geen Toneel').
The Mole can't see William's sign reading 'Actors with a 'C''.

Episode 4:
Title: 'Someone Else'.
The Mole is stood by the I Am sign that was assigned to Frits but it actually reflects on her initials Anne-Marie. It's also a clue that she has taken on another identity, she is someone else i.e. the Mole.

Episode 5:
Title : Reversed / from back to forth.
The Mole came last answering the questions on the plane, then first and last in the Western challenge, and arrived at Art first in the Caste/ crosses challenge.

Episode 6:
Title: 'Smoke screen'.
The Mole pulled up a smoke screen by claiming the burning arrow that made them money, but it was Hadewych that actually hit the hay bale, earning the group €2500,-.

Episode 7:
Title: 'Self-knowledge'.
The Mole depicts another woman called 'Marie' as well in a living painting.
(Marie-Thérese Walter, Picasso's mistress).

Episode 8:
Title: 'Tim, Anne-Marie and Liesbeth'.
Those were the names of the packs of four of a kind of the contestants still in the game that the Mole had gathered. The Mole also predicted these three to be in the Finale during the episode.

Episode 9:
Title: 'Yes No... No Yes' (Ja Nee.. Nee Ja).
Yes and No are being turned around.
If you turn around 'Ja Nee' you get 'Een AJ' , the initials of the Mole (Anne-Marie Jung), being the 'one' Mole.

Episode 10:
Title: 'Only one in Spain' ('Maar een in Spanje').
'Maar een in' is an anagram of the Mole's name, Anne-Marie.
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #171 on: March 12, 2012, 03:40:12 AM »
Watched the finale. Thanks for your work, Topita! :tup:

I don't think contestants should focus too much on misleading other contestants. Come on, bring some money to the pot. It was an easy job for the Mole this season...

P.S. I still have no clue about what the missing answers meant in the final quiz. The finale didn't talk about that.

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« Reply #172 on: March 12, 2012, 11:41:51 AM »
P.S. I still have no clue about what the missing answers meant in the final quiz. The finale didn't talk about that.

Well both questions were strange, the other one with the incorrect answer 3 (wrong amount) too.
There's still a Mole Fanday on March 18th, which I myself won't be attending but usually quite a few people post video's or 'reports' on what happened, which questions were asked and answered.

If this comes up somewhere I will tell you.  :)
But I wouldn't get my hopes up. I think either it's a mistake or it was just one of those 1000 things they put in there that meant nothing or is a smoke screen, like eg the whole 3-1=2 stuff.  :lol3:

Regardless I'll let you know if I do hear something.  :)

Hope you enjoyed it.  :)
And well bear in mind that the dynamics this year were quite different from others with all the contestants sharing so much information... The Mole had to operate within that so I think that wasn't a very easy job.
And yes the contestants themselves screwed up royally on several occasions..

I hope next year people will be playing it more individually, makes the game more interesting I think.
Yet, I did enjoy the series on the whole I must say.  :)
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« Reply #173 on: March 13, 2012, 12:11:23 AM »
I don't think contestants should focus too much on misleading other contestants. Come on, bring some money to the pot. It was an easy job for the Mole this season...

Ok, well I hope you'll be ok with me coming back to this point again.  :)

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone on this point. I have thought about it all, let it sink in and discussed it with a number of people on the Moleforum I visit (avid Mole watchers that is, over the last 12 seasons).
Different visions and interpretations prevail, so I'm not saying I speak for everyone.. But I do speak with a number of people I trust and have proven themselves to be good Molehunters too, because basically it's about seeing beyond the 'obvious' and trying to put yourself in the Mole position. Which is why I never ever, once even, believed it was Liesbeth. I had my doubts initially about Tim, and felt the edit suggested it wasn't him - should have stuck to that obviously, also he doesn't seem the type to be able to handle it.. But all is clear with 20/20 hindsight obviously.  :lol3:

I understand your comment because I did feel it came across that way. Actually I blame the producers for that.
I think we were not dealing with an inactive Mole in fact (to me, Patrick was far less active eg though he had no excuse for being so other than his cowardess of being detected or getting suspicion on him going to extremes such as keeping his fakemoles around.. Not cool at all imho. :( )

If group dynamics had been different in this bunch, eg had the same dynamic like it did in Season 2011, there would have been a much better chance of Anne-Marie getting a lot more leeway/ options to sabotage. As it stands she was much more conscious of the suspicions as they were expressed freely and openly, putting her in a very awkward position as all eyes were fixed on her (well some of them anyway  :lol: ) and she didn't want to give away the game. Who could have anticipated William suggesting what he did or people taking that from it - or all contestants being honest to each other about their suspicions (well except for William clearly? ) .. I think the production should have caught on to that a lot sooner than they did and somehow intervened.. they did not.

What was left was in part 'damage control' imo (dissuading two people who initially suspected her somewhat due to production decisions partly due to her arriving first at the plane changing the clock/ 3-1=2 thing, and the contestants actually saying they had a question on their first test asking if the Mole had changed the challenge time from 3 to 2 hours put her really in the frame imo.. I would suspect her and that is definitely a mistake of the production imo....) yet she still tried to sabotage.

You could say it was down to others and in part it was indeed, as it has been for years now tbh..

But look at the extra clips of the Mole sabotages,  for instance.  :)
She managed to persuade Hadewych (who stated suspecting her intuitively from day one, based on merely a hunch and went all in for her..) to say the one photo she knew she was going to be asked about (Marit's parents) might belong to Tim instead, because of his posture. She knew Marit was onto her partially, though she distrusted everyone at that stage apparently.. So she wouldn't take her word for it for sure.. Using Hadewych whom Marit clearly trusted was a very smart move, which made sure Marit used that as her basis - Challenge failed because of that first and foremost... (Marit mentioned she did take that as her main basis that challenge).

Or the extra footage of the Ronda-kidnap challenge..
When I was translating I was really wondering why Hadewych mentioned all these cities on the shore mainly tourist places.
Well guess what? Anne-Marie suggested it on the phone and Liesbeth concurred.. In the extra footage we see Anne-Marie suggesting tourist places on the shore (which, yes, are very well known for this in the Netherlands, a lot of us vacation there..)
So we see Hadewych mentioning lots of different places there that were far off from where they were yet plausible enough to be called.
Hence it took a long time to find them.
Apart from this she stalled by keep driving at a snail's pace in first gear for a long time, and she went the wrong way in Ronda costing them a lot of time (Hade wouldn't allow her to manage the phone so she found another way.  :lol: )
I actually think they were probably out of time, since the whole missing the right exit was crucial, considering how much time it took to go to Ronda, but the production probably felt it was a pretty sad affair anyway, the pot being so low..

I'm just trying to say that things are not that simple and straightforward to appreciate what a mole could or could not do.
Personally I think her claiming that arrow and throwing away the chalk were pretty gutsy and have nothing to do with being reliant on others to Mole.. The fact that they sometimes did on purpose or just out of clumsiness.. Well what could she have done about that as a Mole specifically??

To me she's not on my 'top' list of Moles but I don't think she did a bad job at all either, all things considering.  :)
That's a matter of opinion though surely.   :lol:
« Last Edit: March 13, 2012, 12:30:49 AM by Topita »
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Re: Dutch Mole - New series with English subtitles!
« Reply #174 on: March 16, 2012, 08:25:10 PM »
I have a question for you guys.  :)

I have received multiple requests about us translating an older Dutch Mole series.
I've discussed it with some of the translators and I think we might make this work even if over a somewhat larger time span than the weekly churning out.  :lol:

In fact I think we might translate a few episodes and then put them online so we don't have the time pressure yet will be able to bring it to you guys on a regular (hopefully +- weekly) basis. Mind you this is one of the older series so it may look different, not as snazzy as the 2012 one. But I think it may still be enjoyable.  :)

I was wondering if you guys might be interested in watching this too?
Just trying to find out if there is enough interest for us to engage in this again since after all it is a lot of effort and commitment, but it also makes me happy if other people enjoy watching the series all the same.  :)

So, let me know please what your thoughts on it are?  ;)
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