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Survivor Questions
« on: October 19, 2011, 04:32:14 AM »
I notice there is a thread "Amazing Race Questions" on the board The Amazing Race Discussion, but there's no one for Survivor.

So I create this thread for your Survivor questions. Ask them here and our talented and vocal posters will try to help!!

If there's already a similar thread, please let me know. Thanks!


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Is there any "curse" for Survivor? For example, the winner would not be in the winning team of a certain week.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 02:55:20 PM »
There's always the infamous car curse..... anyone who wins a car on Survivor will not win. Although I'm not sure if it was broken, considering Rob won a car in All Stars, then won Redemption Island.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 09:09:33 PM »
There's always the infamous car curse..... anyone who wins a car on Survivor will not win. Although I'm not sure if it was broken, considering Rob won a car in All Stars, then won Redemption Island.

There's no car award in recent seasons, I reckon? Rob in S22 shouldn't be counted in, since he did not win the car in this season.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 10:39:22 AM »
There's always the infamous car curse..... anyone who wins a car on Survivor will not win. Although I'm not sure if it was broken, considering Rob won a car in All Stars, then won Redemption Island.

There's no car award in recent seasons, I reckon? Rob in S22 shouldn't be counted in, since he did not win the car in this season.

Definitely not broken. Rather, win a car in THAT season and NOT win. But they've got no car sponsers for recent season, I think...

I think there's no particular pattern goin on, but so far since last season with RI, anyone who's returned back from RI gets voted off immediately next. Don't know if it will happen this season. :lol:

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 03:36:33 AM »
It's said that the first person shown in the opening credits is not the winner. Neither is the last person.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 06:24:10 PM »
Has CBS ever thought about expanding each episode of Survivor to 2 hours, like what NBC does with The Biggest Loser?
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 05:29:19 PM »
I hope not. Only 2 hr one I've seen is HvV #1, only cause of the big players.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 03:14:02 AM »
What do you think of this twist? Any person who gives up his immunity idol has the right to vote twice in this tribal council, and these two votes don't need to refer to one specific person.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 10:12:21 AM »
What do you think of this twist? Any person who gives up his immunity idol has the right to vote twice in this tribal council, and these two votes don't need to refer to one specific person.

Bad twist.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 06:51:22 PM »
Three seasons that got the fewest viewers in history are S19, S20 and S22, exactly the seasons where Russell Hantz participated. Is it a coincidence or a reflection of American viewers' favor? :duno: I like him a lot, though.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 09:20:10 PM »
Three seasons that got the fewest viewers in history are S19, S20 and S22, exactly the seasons where Russell Hantz participated. Is it a coincidence or a reflection of American viewers' favor? :duno: I like him a lot, though.

I highly doubt there's a correlation between those season's lower ratings and Russell being on them. I never knew they were so low rated in viewership. Perhaps maybe were they competing against American Idol during these times? I know seasons 20 & 22 aired in the spring when Idol is on, so that would explain that. Still would have thought season 21 would have very low viewers. That season I give a  :nopoints

Season 20 was an all stars season and is held in high regard as one of the, if not THE best season in the show's history. Going into the seasons, especially 19, viewers had no idea the show would revolve around Russell like it ended up being. And season 22 revolved entirely around Boston Rob, who is considered one of the most popular players ever. I ended up finding that one of the most boring seasons ever because of the horribly predictable editing and complete lack of gameplay by every other player. They all seemed content to just let Rob finally get his win.

And lastly even though the majority of message board opinion is that they hate Russell Hantz, remember the general/casual viewership voted him fan favorite in seasons 19 & 20, so when all is said and done, there were quite a few pleased with his gameplay.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 11:28:29 PM »
Could the drop in ratings be due to the change from Thursday night to Wednesday night?  Thursday TV lineup is weak compared to Wednesday night.  :duno:

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 07:24:43 AM »
Still would have thought season 21 would have very low viewers. That season I give a  :nopoints

It may seem weird, but Wikipedia says season 21 got the average viewers 13.61 million and #11 rank, Among S18~S22 S21 got the most viewers. :duno:
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 02:53:53 PM »
I think there's no particular pattern goin on, but so far since last season with RI, anyone who's returned back from RI gets voted off immediately next. Don't know if it will happen this season. :lol:
If we edit the curse slightly to "Anyone who's returned from RI gets voted off at the next possible Tribal" then it is true, as Ozzy returned, and won immunity his first challenge back, but then was voted out next TC.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 07:34:02 PM »
I think there's no particular pattern goin on, but so far since last season with RI, anyone who's returned back from RI gets voted off immediately next. Don't know if it will happen this season. :lol:
If we edit the curse slightly to "Anyone who's returned from RI gets voted off at the next possible Tribal" then it is true, as Ozzy returned, and won immunity his first challenge back, but then was voted out next TC.

Exactly why I hope they never bring RI back. It's not back for S24 obviously, but Probst said it may not be completely done yet, hinting that it could return in a future season. I say what's the point? The people that get booted, usually always get booted for a reason, and by the time that someone returns, alliances and the game have moved on and there's just no place in it for a RI returnee. Not to mention the person on RI gets valuable one on one time with every potential jury member, they're just too much of a threat not to get rid of again immediately. Only chance is for them to win out in immunity, which is a tough task to expect.

If they ever decide to try RI again, I think it definitely needs to stop at the merge. Only use it as an opportunity to give some of the early boots extra screentime and one chance to get back in at the merge and be done with it. At least then you have the chance they'll stick around for the tribe's jockeying for their vote.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2012, 10:17:19 AM »
I was thinking about something the other day:

What happens on Survivor in the event of a tie at the Final Tribal Council:

For example, if there is a Final Two and eight jurors (such as Micronesia) and we have a 4-4 vote.

Or, another example, if there is a Final Three and nine jurors and we have a 4-4-1 vote or a 3-3-3 vote.

Do they split the money? Is there a re-vote? :duno:
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2012, 10:47:02 AM »
Mostly they will split the money.Because if they is really a split,it would not be 39 days because the jury will know what did the final 3 did and it won't be in the spirit of the survivor.They will know who back stabbed them and who help them which changes things.

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2012, 11:10:08 AM »
That's interesting! I wonder if it will ever happen on Survivor! :lol:
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2012, 07:22:40 PM »
I was thinking about something the other day:

What happens on Survivor in the event of a tie at the Final Tribal Council:

For example, if there is a Final Two and eight jurors (such as Micronesia) and we have a 4-4 vote.

Or, another example, if there is a Final Three and nine jurors and we have a 4-4-1 vote or a 3-3-3 vote.

Do they split the money? Is there a re-vote? :duno:
In Baidu forum we once talked about this scenario. Somebody mentioned that Jeff once talked about this case. If there is a 4-4-1 case, the person that has the lowest votes will be a jury and he'll decide who the sole survivor is. If there's a 3-3-3 case, Jeff will pull out an envelop from his pocket to reveal a new twist which we don't know what it is.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2012, 08:51:41 PM »
There was actually a case of that (well, sort of) in Survivor Philippines: Celebrity Showdown.

There was a tie during the Live TC and a live re-vote was done.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2012, 02:58:04 AM »
There was actually a case of that (well, sort of) in Survivor Philippines: Celebrity Showdown.

There was a tie during the Live TC and a live re-vote was done.

Wow! :o Was there still a tie at the re-vote or did the tie get broken?
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2012, 08:51:24 PM »
OMG. I just have read that in the 2008 Season of Expeditie Robinson (Belgium and the Netherlands' version of Survivor), 74 FORMER SEASON contestants voted to proclaim the winner of Survivor

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When it came time to reveal the winner of the 2008 season it was revealed that the jury vote was tied at 3-3. This led to seventy four former contestants voting for a winner.

But then again, the source is Wikipedia. :res: :lol:
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 11:10:26 AM »
But then again, the source is Wikipedia. :res: :lol:

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2012, 11:20:03 PM »
When there's a tie in the tribal council vote, Jeff will ask all contestants except the two that got votes to vote again. Could either of the two that got votes use an HII by that time?
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 10:04:44 AM »
It's never been done so I doubt it.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2012, 02:19:14 PM »
OMG. I just have read that in the 2008 Season of Expeditie Robinson (Belgium and the Netherlands' version of Survivor), 74 FORMER SEASON contestants voted to proclaim the winner of Survivor

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When it came time to reveal the winner of the 2008 season it was revealed that the jury vote was tied at 3-3. This led to seventy four former contestants voting for a winner.

But then again, the source is Wikipedia. :res: :lol:
I was looking at this thread and its right. In 2008 'Expeditie Robinson' started with 100 contestants including my geography teacher. He came pretty far (final 18). It was pretty insame.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
How do you get buffs?
How much (typically) is a buff?

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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2012, 07:40:05 PM »
The ones I get are usually off ebay where they sometimes sell them in packs

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2012, 08:48:47 PM »
I got a buff eons ago, when they divided the tribes by race (Cook Islands). :lol:
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2012, 05:09:58 AM »
I have a question:

In the TC after everybody voted and before Jeff reveals the voting result, if contestant A gives the HII to contestant B, must B use the HII immediately?
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2013, 02:50:30 AM »
Could HII be used in a duel?

Scenario: Jeff introduces the game in the duel, the person who has the HII raises his hand and claims he wants to use the HII to avoid competing in this game (which he's probably not good at), and then the rest two contestants compete to eliminate one of them.
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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2013, 07:04:57 AM »
Could HII be used in a duel?

Scenario: Jeff introduces the game in the duel, the person who has the HII raises his hand and claims he wants to use the HII to avoid competing in this game (which he's probably not good at), and then the rest two contestants compete to eliminate one of them.

I don't think so - but it's hard to say unless we see it happen or something.
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2013, 02:05:12 PM »
What happens if 2 immunity idols are played and all votes are cast for those 2 players?

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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2013, 05:02:36 PM »
Don't know if it's happened before, but my guess is that there would be a re-vote, and the two that played the HII's would be the only two you couldn't vote for. :duno:
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2013, 08:04:59 PM »
What I'm more interested to see if a person gets voted off and goes to RI, can he/she still pass the Idol openly to another player? Will be pretty epic to see. I'm sure it's kind of forbidden, otherwise Andrea might have given hers to Eddie last season..

And Mug is probably right too.. will just have to go into a re-vote and vote for anyone but the two who used the HII. Such a Survivor moment actually... would love to see it eventually happen one day. :funny:

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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2013, 01:21:27 PM »
What I'm more interested to see if a person gets voted off and goes to RI, can he/she still pass the Idol openly to another player? Will be pretty epic to see. I'm sure it's kind of forbidden, otherwise Andrea might have given hers to Eddie last season..

And Mug is probably right too.. will just have to go into a re-vote and vote for anyone but the two who used the HII. Such a Survivor moment actually... would love to see it eventually happen one day. :funny:

Most likely if the idol holder loses the duel they can give the idol to the people that are at the RI. But if the idol holder gets back to the game it's valid idol still (this has been confirmed by Probst).
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2013, 01:32:10 AM »
What happens if 2 immunity idols are played and all votes are cast for those 2 players?

This happened on my fantasy game Survivor Ethiopia. Caused me a nightmare. -________-

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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PM »
What happens if 2 immunity idols are played and all votes are cast for those 2 players?

This happened on my fantasy game Survivor Ethiopia. Caused me a nightmare. -________-

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2013, 10:43:23 PM »
What happens if 2 immunity idols are played and all votes are cast for those 2 players?

This happened on my fantasy game Survivor Ethiopia. Caused me a nightmare. -________-

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2013, 01:57:13 AM »
I'm confused by another scenario.

Let's say there're 6 people left.

I--person who has the immunity necklace
H--person who has an HII
A,B,C,D--the rest players

Before the votes are revealed, H uses the HII.

Contestants:I H A B C D
Votes received:0 3 1 1 1 0

Then it becomes a tie among A-B-C, and I,H,D have to vote for one of them.

If the result of the revote is 1-1-1, does it mean D is eliminated?
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2013, 03:52:10 AM »
The above scenario would assumably result in drawing rocks. As to whether or not the players involved in the tie would also have to draw rocks, I do not know. :/
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2013, 04:25:53 PM »
I'm confused by another scenario.

Let's say there're 6 people left.

I--person who has the immunity necklace
H--person who has an HII
A,B,C,D--the rest players

Before the votes are revealed, H uses the HII.

Contestants:I H A B C D
Votes received:0 3 1 1 1 0

Then it becomes a tie among A-B-C, and I,H,D have to vote for one of them.

If the result of the revote is 1-1-1, does it mean D is eliminated?
I believe that in this scenario, A, B, C, and D all draw, this was sort of the case in Marquesas, but I believe that the four would draw rocks

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 01:20:53 PM »
The above scenario would assumably result in drawing rocks. As to whether or not the players involved in the tie would also have to draw rocks, I do not know. :/
Well, if we go by the rules of BvW, tied players don't draw rocks, so we're left with player D drawing rocks by himself  :cmaslol

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2013, 08:02:21 AM »
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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2013, 06:27:06 PM »
I was thinking about something the other day:

What happens on Survivor in the event of a tie at the Final Tribal Council:

For example, if there is a Final Two and eight jurors (such as Micronesia) and we have a 4-4 vote.

Or, another example, if there is a Final Three and nine jurors and we have a 4-4-1 vote or a 3-3-3 vote.

Do they split the money? Is there a re-vote? :duno:
I'll bet the only reason this was the case was because there was originally going to be seven jury members and three finalists, but the producers hated Cirie for some reason (HOW COULD YOU HATE CIRIE???!!!) and were like "screw here, she doesn't deserve it!", which she does

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2013, 04:11:49 PM »
I was thinking about something the other day:

What happens on Survivor in the event of a tie at the Final Tribal Council:

For example, if there is a Final Two and eight jurors (such as Micronesia) and we have a 4-4 vote.

Or, another example, if there is a Final Three and nine jurors and we have a 4-4-1 vote or a 3-3-3 vote.

Do they split the money? Is there a re-vote? :duno:
I would imagine that
A) The winner is chosen based on the public's fave player vote
B) A re-vote would occur or
C) Pre-Jury players would vote.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2013, 04:23:32 PM »
If there were a tie wouldn't they settle it with a fire making challenge between the tied players?  I could be wrong, but I thought that was they settled ties at one point.  I'm pretty sure they did, but if not it's not a bad idea if I do say so myself.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2013, 08:14:58 PM »
I was thinking about something the other day:

What happens on Survivor in the event of a tie at the Final Tribal Council:

For example, if there is a Final Two and eight jurors (such as Micronesia) and we have a 4-4 vote.

Or, another example, if there is a Final Three and nine jurors and we have a 4-4-1 vote or a 3-3-3 vote.

Do they split the money? Is there a re-vote? :duno:
I would imagine that
A) The winner is chosen based on the public's fave player vote
B) A re-vote would occur or
C) Pre-Jury players would vote.

Or maybe in the 4-4-1 case the second runner-up will decide who the winner is.
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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2013, 09:36:04 PM »
racer had a Survivor fantasy game where if there was a tie for the jury vote, the juror who was voted out first would have their vote removed from the urn. I kind of hope that's how they would do it on the show. It seems like the most fair way to do it.

I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2013, 09:56:03 PM »
The rocks tie breaker was always in play, and it was specifically listed in the official rulebook of Survivor (you can look for a copy in RealityBlurred)
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« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2013, 10:05:02 PM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .

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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2013, 04:20:44 AM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .
*6 or more, because if there's 5 people left, the tie would be solved with the re-vote.
I think it's pretty obvious that with 4 players left 1 is immune by having the immunity necklace and 2 other players are tied, so that leaves just 1 player eligible to draw rocks  :cmaslol I hope I explained this clearly.

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2013, 09:48:07 PM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .
*6 or more, because if there's 5 people left, the tie would be solved with the re-vote.
I think it's pretty obvious that with 4 players left 1 is immune by having the immunity necklace and 2 other players are tied, so that leaves just 1 player eligible to draw rocks  :cmaslol I hope I explained this clearly.
What if the vote is 2-1-1-1 but the person on 2 votes uses a HII. A re-vote where HII user and person with Immunity occurs but it ends up being 1-1-0. 

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« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2013, 12:54:49 PM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .
*6 or more, because if there's 5 people left, the tie would be solved with the re-vote.
I think it's pretty obvious that with 4 players left 1 is immune by having the immunity necklace and 2 other players are tied, so that leaves just 1 player eligible to draw rocks  :cmaslol I hope I explained this clearly.
What if the vote is 2-1-1-1 but the person on 2 votes uses a HII. A re-vote where HII user and person with Immunity occurs but it ends up being 1-1-0.
Yeah, I didn't think of that.
Well there definitely are a lot of layers that are unlikely! And of course it would be very interesting to see such votes happening one day...  :cmaslol

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« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2013, 09:04:00 AM »
Hey guys, I've read somewhere on this board that not only the winner (and SPOTS) get a cash prize, but (some?) other contestants, too. Is that true, or was I mislead?  :cmaslol

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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2013, 09:22:34 AM »
Everyone gets cash IIRC just depends how much :tup:

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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2013, 09:51:24 AM »
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone is paid. The amount received increases the further they made it. :cmas16
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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2013, 01:28:19 PM »
That's interesting, where do you guys get such info? :cmas18

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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2013, 04:26:05 PM »
That's interesting, where do you guys get such info? :cmas18

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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2013, 08:00:59 PM »
That's interesting, where do you guys get such info? :cmas18

Well if they tell you, they will have to kill you  :cmas28

 :cmaslol :cmaslol :cmaslol

I've just read that online somewhere to be honest. Can't quite remember where... :cmas5
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« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2013, 12:00:46 AM »
I know this is an awful late question, but do the final three or two really wait for the live reading of votes? So after 39 days in the island, they need to wait for 12 or more weeks to know if they win? (not to mention the days in between the actual taping and the season premiere)

Just really wondering... haha
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« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2013, 12:22:39 AM »
Caramoan had to wait nearly a year :lol:

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« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2013, 12:38:19 AM »
I know this is an awful late question, but do the final three or two really wait for the live reading of votes? So after 39 days in the island, they need to wait for 12 or more weeks to know if they win? (not to mention the days in between the actual taping and the season premiere)

Just really wondering... haha

I think they have a good idea who's going to win, just that it's never revealed to them. For example, Michael "delusional" Skupin from 2 seasons ago honestly thought he still had a shot of winning even though we viewers know that there was no way he was going to win going into the Final TC. In between, I think the jury themselves also shared with each other who they are going to vote for, so it was clear who wins. Technically, this is usually how the winner gets leaked out anyway. For example, I think in an interview Hayden mentioned that everyone went into the final TC with the agenda of voting for Tyson to win, all except Vytas, who was very determined to vote for any of the other two but Tyson...

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« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2013, 12:41:59 AM »
That's interesting, where do you guys get such info? :cmas18

I read somewhere that new players gets 10,000 for attending the reunion show and 25,000 for the returning players as well.

The second place gets 100,000, the third place gets 50k, fourth place gets 25k.. and so on where it keeps decreasing, until the last spot which is I think just 1k. That might have changed over the years as this info was from MANY MANY years ago. Same as The Amazing Race, the second placer gets 100k as well. :) (whether it has changed or not I do not know)

This sum gets doubled for the returning players, so if a returning player comes in second, I think the price money is instead 200,000. So... the only price money that doesn't change is the million dollars.. kinda sad actually. lol

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Re: Survivor Questions
« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2013, 12:44:53 AM »
I know this is an awful late question, but do the final three or two really wait for the live reading of votes? So after 39 days in the island, they need to wait for 12 or more weeks to know if they win? (not to mention the days in between the actual taping and the season premiere)

Just really wondering... haha

I think they have a good idea who's going to win, just that it's never revealed to them. For example, Michael "delusional" Skupin from 2 seasons ago honestly thought he still had a shot of winning even though we viewers know that there was no way he was going to win going into the Final TC. In between, I think the jury themselves also shared with each other who they are going to vote for, so it was clear who wins. Technically, this is usually how the winner gets leaked out anyway. For example, I think in an interview Hayden mentioned that everyone went into the final TC with the agenda of voting for Tyson to win, all except Vytas, who was very determined to vote for any of the other two but Tyson...

Thanks! So they really need to wait...  :cmas27

Also, is it true that the 1 million prize is not really given in cold cash (assuming its given without tax implication, but of course it has) i mean that the winner needs to wait for some time for his prize to be one million, or he/she has the option to just receive the "present value" of the million dollar prize?
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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2013, 12:45:46 AM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .
*6 or more, because if there's 5 people left, the tie would be solved with the re-vote.
I think it's pretty obvious that with 4 players left 1 is immune by having the immunity necklace and 2 other players are tied, so that leaves just 1 player eligible to draw rocks  :cmaslol I hope I explained this clearly.

The fire challenge has always been a tie-breaker for the Final 4. It has been used in Exile Island and Fiji last that I remembered. The only thing that changed was that it's no longer PROD but WORD. :(

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« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2013, 12:47:52 AM »
I know this is an awful late question, but do the final three or two really wait for the live reading of votes? So after 39 days in the island, they need to wait for 12 or more weeks to know if they win? (not to mention the days in between the actual taping and the season premiere)

Just really wondering... haha

I think they have a good idea who's going to win, just that it's never revealed to them. For example, Michael "delusional" Skupin from 2 seasons ago honestly thought he still had a shot of winning even though we viewers know that there was no way he was going to win going into the Final TC. In between, I think the jury themselves also shared with each other who they are going to vote for, so it was clear who wins. Technically, this is usually how the winner gets leaked out anyway. For example, I think in an interview Hayden mentioned that everyone went into the final TC with the agenda of voting for Tyson to win, all except Vytas, who was very determined to vote for any of the other two but Tyson...

Thanks! So they really need to wait...  :cmas27

Also, is it true that the 1 million prize is not really given in cold cash (assuming its given without tax implication, but of course it has) i mean that the winner needs to wait for some time for his prize to be one million, or he/she has the option to just receive the "present value" of the million dollar prize?

After taxation it's just 600k I believe. I'm pretty sure it is always presented in the form of a cheque, so they get whatever remaining cash after being taxed.

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« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2013, 09:48:37 AM »
I'm going to ask the obvious question about the drawing rocks as a tie-breaker thing:

I don't remember what season this happened in... maybe Palau or Guatemala? But there's one episode where there's a tie at TC and everyone's freaking out about having to draw rocks, and Jeff just smiles at them and says, "We don't do that anymore."

So why did they bring it back for BvW when there's been so many times when they've done the fire-making challenge to break the tie?? :gaah:
I think that rocks are only used after a deadlocked vote where there are 5 or more people left. Once they get down to 4 tiebreaker is a challenge (usually fire making) .
*6 or more, because if there's 5 people left, the tie would be solved with the re-vote.
I think it's pretty obvious that with 4 players left 1 is immune by having the immunity necklace and 2 other players are tied, so that leaves just 1 player eligible to draw rocks  :cmaslol I hope I explained this clearly.

The fire challenge has always been a tie-breaker for the Final 4. It has been used in Exile Island and Fiji last that I remembered. The only thing that changed was that it's no longer PROD but WORD. :(
PROD and WORD what?

I know this is an awful late question, but do the final three or two really wait for the live reading of votes? So after 39 days in the island, they need to wait for 12 or more weeks to know if they win? (not to mention the days in between the actual taping and the season premiere)

Just really wondering... haha

I think they have a good idea who's going to win, just that it's never revealed to them. For example, Michael "delusional" Skupin from 2 seasons ago honestly thought he still had a shot of winning even though we viewers know that there was no way he was going to win going into the Final TC. In between, I think the jury themselves also shared with each other who they are going to vote for, so it was clear who wins. Technically, this is usually how the winner gets leaked out anyway. For example, I think in an interview Hayden mentioned that everyone went into the final TC with the agenda of voting for Tyson to win, all except Vytas, who was very determined to vote for any of the other two but Tyson...

Thanks! So they really need to wait...  :cmas27

Also, is it true that the 1 million prize is not really given in cold cash (assuming its given without tax implication, but of course it has) i mean that the winner needs to wait for some time for his prize to be one million, or he/she has the option to just receive the "present value" of the million dollar prize?

After taxation it's just 600k I believe. I'm pretty sure it is always presented in the form of a cheque, so they get whatever remaining cash after being taxed.
What do they get taxed for?

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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2013, 11:31:14 AM »
Purple rock of death becoming white rock of death.

That's a good question regarding what do they get taxed for.. taxed for their "earnings" which is seen as their "income" for that particular year? :cmaslol

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« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2013, 02:01:56 PM »
I believe it's taxed just like any other windfall. It's technically income, so they're taxed federreal, state, as, etc. I think they end up with a little over $550,000, from what Rupert said in an interview once, and also from reports of Richard Hatch's woes. He neglected to pay his taxes, which is why he ended up in jail, partially.

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« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2013, 02:10:35 PM »
I honestly think game show money should not be taxed. I know the lottery in the US is, but it is not in Ireland, or for the Euromillions lottery which spans Western Europe.

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« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2013, 09:18:12 PM »
Apply for citizenship to Monaco or Andorra or Caymans or smth after you win, but before it airs on TV. :cmaslol :cmaslol :cmaslol

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« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2013, 12:50:06 AM »
I think Yul said before he got about $600,000 after being taxed.

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« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2013, 06:22:49 AM »
That sucks.

In Australia (as with most countries), you get 100% of the winnings.

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« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2013, 08:07:47 AM »
That sucks.

In Australia (as with most countries), you get 100% of the winnings.

Our prizemoney is so little by comparison, if it was taxed it would be absurd!! :cmaslol
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« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2013, 10:20:24 AM »
Same as The Amazing Race, the second placer gets 100k as well. :) (whether it has changed or not I do not know)



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« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2013, 10:21:54 AM »


Also, is it true that the 1 million prize is not really given in cold cash (assuming its given without tax implication, but of course it has) i mean that the winner needs to wait for some time for his prize to be one million, or he/she has the option to just receive the "present value" of the million dollar prize?

They are given a check for the amount...
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« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2013, 11:07:57 AM »
Same as The Amazing Race, the second placer gets 100k as well. :) (whether it has changed or not I do not know)



That is NOT correct....  wish it was true!

Didn't the Bransen get 100k? Wasn't there an interview where Rob Mariano revealed his prize money for TAR 7 was 100k? -_- Or did I remember wrongly? Was pretty sure with the 100k prize money for Bransens though!! :cmas18

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« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2014, 07:07:06 PM »
Here in the Philippines, prizes and winnings have a final withholding tax of 20%. So for gameshow winners, if they won the grand prize of 1M pesos, they just ended up with P800,000.   :cmas27
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« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2014, 11:50:53 PM »
Here in the Philippines, prizes and winnings have a final withholding tax of 20%. So for gameshow winners, if they won the grand prize of 1M pesos, they just ended up with P800,000.   :cmas27

Same here in China.
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« Reply #80 on: May 11, 2014, 10:00:43 PM »
Another question, can HIIs be played if there's a re-vote?
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« Reply #81 on: May 12, 2014, 04:32:04 AM »
Another question, can HIIs be played if there's a re-vote?

Nope, they must be played the first time votes are cast - after that, if they have a HII and there's a revote, they have to keep it in their bag :)

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« Reply #82 on: May 12, 2014, 11:51:52 AM »
Another question, can HIIs be played if there's a re-vote?

Nope, they must be played the first time votes are cast - after that, if they have a HII and there's a revote, they have to keep it in their bag :)

Yeah, was going to ask the same thing. Marty (S:Nicaragua) had a HII and was on a 3-3-2 tie. A re-vote was made, but he did nothing to try to be saved, so I assume he just could not use it.