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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #200 on: June 30, 2011, 02:16:09 AM »
In this comparison I set up the stick figure on the Malone media shot and directly copied and pasted it on top of the shot from LAX.

It looks like a match to me!
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #201 on: June 30, 2011, 02:18:43 AM »
great work chateau.


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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #202 on: June 30, 2011, 02:57:50 AM »
OK, I'm convinced too. I thought it might end up being an issue with the camera angles and the distances in those earlier pictures and apparently that was the case. In these latest pictures, Karl is clearly about a foot taller than his wife and about 4 to 6 inches taller than Phil.

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #203 on: June 30, 2011, 09:40:51 AM »
OK, I'm convinced too. I thought it might end up being an issue with the camera angles and the distances in those earlier pictures and apparently that was the case. In these latest pictures, Karl is clearly about a foot taller than his wife and about 4 to 6 inches taller than Phil.

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Is Phil really that tall? Karl Malone is 6'9, so that would mean that Phil would be anywhere from 6'3 to 6'5 by your estimates. I always thought he was more like 6'0 to 6'1.

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #204 on: June 30, 2011, 09:57:11 AM »
OK, I'm convinced too. I thought it might end up being an issue with the camera angles and the distances in those earlier pictures and apparently that was the case. In these latest pictures, Karl is clearly about a foot taller than his wife and about 4 to 6 inches taller than Phil.

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Is Phil really that tall? Karl Malone is 6'9, so that would mean that Phil would be anywhere from 6'3 to 6'5 by your estimates. I always thought he was more like 6'0 to 6'1.

Given my track record last night, I'd say Phil is 4 to 6 inches shorter with a margin of error of 3 feet.  :lol3:  Take a look at the pictures and estimate it for yourself.  I have no idea just how tall Phil is. It isn't something I ever thought about before last night.


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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #205 on: June 30, 2011, 11:02:10 AM »
One thing I wasn't doing with the batch of Teipei airport photos that came online yesterday was to say that those images weren't Karl Malone; I was saying I wouldn't make a decision based only on that particular set for that particular identification. I do agree that the more recent set Peach posted is much more conclusive on the identification.
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #206 on: June 30, 2011, 11:11:38 AM »
Thanks to our Taipei crew!!  :hearts:
 
And there are more to come for all the teams, I am just a bit on overload at the moment so my being slow is all my fault!!  :-[
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #207 on: June 30, 2011, 12:27:00 PM »
Some thoughts about whether it's Karl Malone - don't know if anyone has seen this YouTube video from last summer - The Gerrard's with Karl and Kay Malone.  Gives some clearer side views of Karl than in the pix above, plus shows their relative heights.  I'm still new to RFF, and I'm a little unclear whether there's any problem providing a link to this video (which is why I put in the title), so please let me know if I've made a mistake. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDyTkBXQDY

Based on her eyebrows and ear shape, not to mention general features, it sure looks like Kay Malone in the most recent pictures above arriving at the mat.  I'd say the picture from LAX of him looking at the camera sure looks like Karl.  The one above, as they come into the mat, not so much, though if you look at him on the video - maybe.  He does seem to look different in general if you catch him from the front vs. the side, and maybe the picture above just got him at a bad moment or a bad angle.  The mustache/beard is his style, the relative heights of him and her seem right.

Have to agree that in the photo with Phil, he doesn't look quite as tall as you might expect.  However, he's got on a good size backpack, so maybe is slouching; at 47, could have lost a bit of height; might never have actually been 6'9" to begin with; Phil could be wearing cowboy boots.

If it's not actually the Malones, it's a couple that sure looks just like them!

 


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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #208 on: June 30, 2011, 01:19:53 PM »
Thanks lovetherace!! That's a big help!!
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #209 on: June 30, 2011, 05:04:07 PM »
Way to go, everyone! :hearts:
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #210 on: June 30, 2011, 05:29:29 PM »
not denying that the orange couple in 7a is karl and kay malone...but the guy looks way to young to be karl malone.  and to be honest, it does't really look like him.  could be just me being confused though.  and sorry peach if this is in the wrong page.  i posted it here since the caps were in this thread.

I agree with this. It just doesn't look like Karl Malone.
I can't comment on whether it is Karl Malone, but I can comment on the height of Kay Kinsey Malone. She appears to be about one foot shorter than Karl, which would make her about 5'9" maximum. There is no way she could be 6' or taller based on a picture I have seen of her in standing in front of him.
I'm kind of uneasy with our identification of Karl Malone. The guy in the pictures doesn't look 6' 9" tall. He looks at most 4 or 5 inches taller than his wife. Maybe his wife is well over 6' tall, but that would be pretty unusual for a beauty pageant winner. Also, while the other racers are at varying distances from the wall, comparing them to the darker lines on the wall in the background, the general feeling is that they aren't that much shorter than the Karl Malone in our pictures. However, it could be the camera angles since they are at various locations along that wall. The security guard near the door appears to tower over everyone else since presumably he is closer to the photographer and nearest to the wall.

On the other hand, our identification of Karl Malone has gotten a fair amount of attention and has been in the Salt Lake City newspaper. If Karl is just going through his day to day life back in Louisiana (I read that he works for Louisiana Tech University these days), I imagine someone would have called it to his attention. In that case, I expect we would have heard a denial from him about the rumors of his being on the Amazing Race. The lack of a denial by this point lends some credibility to our identification.

Kay Kinsley Malone is about 1 foot shorter than Karl Malone, so her maximum height would be 5'9" and she cannot be over 6' tall.

To settle the height of Phil Keoghan definitely,
Height: 5' 10¾" (1.80 m)
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #211 on: June 30, 2011, 06:24:17 PM »
My impression re: their relative heights is a little different.  Her head seems to be level with his shoulder in both pictures , which would make a 12" height difference (and her 5'9" height) reasonable (and also looks about right in the video).  From the picture of them running to the mat, it's pretty clear he's a very big guy, and in that picture it definitely looks like he's much more than 4 or 5 inches taller than her.

What I also found interesting was the ring she was wearing on her left hand in the video. She's got a couple on, but one of them is pretty chunky, and it made me think about the ring he's wearing in the LAX picture that people were wondering about.

More of a question to me is Phil's height in the picture at the mat.  He looks a little taller than I'd expect relative to both of them, if it is the Malones.

Good point about the lack of denial about this identification!

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #212 on: June 30, 2011, 08:28:45 PM »
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #213 on: July 01, 2011, 10:42:30 AM »



Just a little empirical comparative analysis........The gentleman is about 3" taller than Phil. Phil is ~5'11" tall, according to apskip post above. So that makes this gentleman ~ 6"3" tall. The lady is ~4" shorter than Phil. That makes her ~ 5'7" tall.

If someone with lots better photoshop skils than I wants a little project............go to TAR 18, Episode 7 and grab a screencap of FT/BE and Phil at the mat in Varanasi. Crop out the Taiwanese General. Then glue that photo to the one above using the crown of Phil's skull as a median point. Then you will see the height difference between Phil at 5'11" and BE at 6'9" and FT at 6'3". Looks like a job for Chateau to me.........:)

I suggest the Varanasi pitstop for a couple of reason........the ground is very uniform and level. The background is pretty light and will provide very good definiton between background the the tops of people's heads. Not a perfect solution.....but good enough to rule out Karl and Kay Malone.................but then again......Phil COULD be standing on a box in the photo above for the naysayers.......
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #214 on: July 01, 2011, 11:21:59 AM »
People do round up their physical measurement statistics and athletes in particular do (such as height in the NBA and NFL) to intimidate opponents. Also, since I have lost about 1.5 inches in height over the past decade, it could have happened to Karl Malone too. He could only be 6'6" now.


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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #215 on: July 02, 2011, 09:12:58 PM »
I don't know if you've figured out yet if the girl in yellow is Chinese/Thai/Filipino or what, but she looks Chinese to me. I read somewhere that she could speak fluent Chinese? I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is then it sort of points towards her being Chinese or Thai (there's a lot of people in Thailand who are of Chinese descent.)

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #216 on: July 04, 2011, 06:39:36 AM »
I found a blog about the Utah Jazz basketball team that has a lengthy post about our discussion on whether Karl and Kay Malone are on TAR 19. I wasn't sure where to put it, but this seems like the best place.

http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/

Since he quotes us extensively, I think it's OK to repost parts of it here. It's far too long to cut and paste. First, a nice description of us:

Investigative Report: Are Karl and Kay Malone on the next season of “The Amazing Race”?
July 4, 2011

Preface: Let me just say, the Amazing Race community over at Reality Fan Forum is ridiculous. They have fans all over the world watching for and following the teams as they travel, while others rule in and rule out destinations based on flights schedules, while others still monitor Facebook and Twitter for sightings, while an array of translators fluent in various languages translate those Facebook statuses and tweets. Amazing.


Then a long section follows with parts of our deliberations, his brief comments to tie it together and most but not all of the pictures followed by this conclusion:

It’s funny…they could’ve just asked someone/an NBA fan who knows what Karl looks like for a definitive answer.

As of present time, RFF is still identifying this team as “Karl and Kay Malone.”

So yeah, I could’ve just posted the clear pic and said, “It’s not true,” but I figured some people might need the extra reading given the lockout and all.

Well…the false hope was fun while it lasted.


It appears that he's decided that it isn't Karl Malone based on one picture of Karl and Kay running in Taiwan where Karl is wearing a orange bandanna. I agree that's the one that looks least like Karl, but most of the others do and the pictures of Kay are all strikingly similar to her, but he doesn't factor that in.

As an aside, if he's going to quote me about the pictures at the Taiwan airport, it would have been nice if he included those too. I look dumb out of context.  :(

I guess we'll find out in September who's right.
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #217 on: July 04, 2011, 07:50:50 AM »
I found a blog about the Utah Jazz basketball team that has a lengthy post about our discussion on whether Karl and Kay Malone are on TAR 19. I wasn't sure where to put it, but this seems like the best place.

http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/

Since he quotes us extensively, I think it's OK to repost parts of it here. It's far too long to cut and paste. First, a nice description of us:

Investigative Report: Are Karl and Kay Malone on the next season of “The Amazing Race”?
July 4, 2011

Preface: Let me just say, the Amazing Race community over at Reality Fan Forum is ridiculous. They have fans all over the world watching for and following the teams as they travel, while others rule in and rule out destinations based on flights schedules, while others still monitor Facebook and Twitter for sightings, while an array of translators fluent in various languages translate those Facebook statuses and tweets. Amazing.


Then a long section follows with parts of our deliberations, his brief comments to tie it together and most but not all of the pictures followed by this conclusion:

It’s funny…they could’ve just asked someone/an NBA fan who knows what Karl looks like for a definitive answer.

As of present time, RFF is still identifying this team as “Karl and Kay Malone.”

So yeah, I could’ve just posted the clear pic and said, “It’s not true,” but I figured some people might need the extra reading given the lockout and all.

Well…the false hope was fun while it lasted.


It appears that he's decided that it isn't Karl Malone based on one picture of Karl and Kay running in Taiwan where Karl is wearing a orange bandanna. I agree that's the one that looks least like Karl, but most of the others do and the pictures of Kay are all strikingly similar to her, but he doesn't factor that in.

As an aside, if he's going to quote me about the pictures at the Taiwan airport, it would have been nice if he included those too. I look dumb out of context.  :(

I guess we'll find out in September who's right.

This person that writes that blog is implying that everyone on this website is gay. You know, I am very aware of what Karl Malone looks like. I watch a lot of basketball and have watched Karl play many times. This genius can read my previous posts. I have said it the whole time. It is not Karl Malone. This blogger thinks its some new kind of revelation.

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #218 on: July 04, 2011, 08:17:53 AM »
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #219 on: July 04, 2011, 08:21:51 AM »
This person that writes that blog is implying that everyone on this website is gay. You know, I am very aware of what Karl Malone looks like. I watch a lot of basketball and have watched Karl play many times. This genius can read my previous posts. I have said it the whole time. It is not Karl Malone. This blogger thinks its some new kind of revelation.

I missed that part :lol:

But still,  (:;) blogger!
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #220 on: July 04, 2011, 08:27:36 AM »
So...guess we'll see? For now, the "alleged" Karl and Kay??  :ascared

Hope they are having fun with it if it isn't true!  :-[
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« Reply #221 on: July 04, 2011, 08:29:59 AM »
You don't believe this guy over our detectives do you?
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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #222 on: July 04, 2011, 09:19:09 AM »
You don't believe this guy over our detectives do you?

He's undoubtedly more familiar with Karl Malone than we are. I still have a few issues with it being Karl, but it looks clearly like Kay to me. How many roughly 6' 9" guys that look like Karl Malone could she know?

Well, Karl and Kay's children are all under 20. Karl is the youngest of 9 children, so any of his brothers would be older than him. However, Karl apparently was the father of 3 children when he was young. One is Demetrius Bell of the Buffalo Bills in the NFL. He is 27 and is listed as 6' 5" tall and 305 pounds. He's a lineman and in pictures has a broad heavy lineman's build, very different than Karl, so I don't think it's him. Reportedly Demetrius and Karl are not close at all. The other two are twins, Cheryl and Daryl Ford, now aged 30. Cheryl plays in the WNBA for the Detroit Shock and is listed as 6' 3" and 195 pounds. I cannot find any information about Daryl Bell, but from the others, I'd guess he's well over 6 feet as well. I did see a story that Karl and Kay are close with the Ford twins and that they are considered part of the family.

I still think we're most likely seeing Karl, but those are the other possibilities I can think of.

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Re: TAR 19 Contestant Speculation and Spoilers
« Reply #223 on: July 04, 2011, 09:26:14 AM »
I was pretty convinced by that thing Chateau did with the lines on his face. :tup:

I guess we'll have to wait for more evidence if we are still unconvinced... :duno:
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« Reply #224 on: July 04, 2011, 09:54:18 AM »
Since we know this guy is reading us over here at RFF- Hello, blogger, I am a basketball fan, playing and watching the game for almost 18 years now, and I believe that it is indeed Karl Malone.

While I'm not the biggest Jazz fan in the world, I have seen enough to convince me that it is him, mainly because of the fact that his teammate is Kay Malone, and because of the thing Chateau did with the lines.