Topic: TAR 19 Locations/Destinations **Spoilers**

[georgiapeach]

Remember that it is VERY possible that Bangkok was a last minute substitution for another leg that had to be changed...

[Neobie]

Never mind. Chateau is too fast.

[georgiapeach]

I hate edited posts, lol!! Now I have to go see what Chateau found....

[georgiapeach]

We do NOT know it was supposed to be Nepal...just somewhere else.

And sadly...it appears that NEPAL is not our missing leg after all.

[redskevin88]

We have one/two? missing country/ies. Usually Amazing Race visits 9 to 10 countries, but we only have 7 confirmed, and Panama speculated.  Wonder what is missing?

[georgiapeach]

All countries are accounted for, and Panama is confirmed.

The only question is the route Denmark to Belgium...if another country could be involved even just in transit.

[Kelsey_x]

This may have been answered already but I have tried to find it in a threat and can't. How do we know or why do we think that there was a country change? Just out of curiosity.

[georgiapeach]

Weather from what Phil said.

[apskip]

We have one/two? missing country/ies. Usually Amazing Race visits 9 to 10 countries, but we only have 7 confirmed, and Panama speculated.  Wonder what is missing?

A typical Amazing Race is either 11 or 12 legs. There haven't been any 13 leg races since the early seasons. Since we believe this:
leg 5 Bangkok
leg 6 Malawi
leg 7  Malawi
leg 8 Denmark
leg 9 Brussels
leg 10 Panama
leg 11 finale in Atlanta area

That provides an 11 leg race, so nothing appears to be missing.

[Neobie]

I think there is a missing day between Denmark and Belgium, so I believe there's a double leg in either one of those, making a 12-leg race.

[Prophet]

A typical Amazing Race is either 11 or 12 legs. There haven't been any 13 leg races since the early seasons. Since we believe this:
leg 5 Bangkok
leg 6 Malawi
leg 7  Malawi
leg 8 Denmark
leg 9 Brussels
leg 10 Panama
leg 11 finale in Atlanta area

That provides an 11 leg race, so nothing appears to be missing.

If that is a full route, then there is only one more NEL\TBC, which isn't completely impossible, but I would speculate that there are two more NELs\TBCs.

[apskip]

I think there is a missing day between Denmark and Belgium, so I believe there's a double leg in either one of those, making a 12-leg race.

An extended 36 hour pitstop could explain your "missing day", Neobie.

[georgiapeach]

These are the legs we have to date:

Leg 1: LAX to Taipei, Taiwan

Leg 2: Indonesia (Yogyakarta)

Leg 3: Indonesia (Borobudar +)

Leg 4: Phuket, Thailand

Leg 5: Thailand (possible last minute change)

Leg 6: Malawi

Leg 7: Malawi

Leg 8: Denmark

Leg 9: Denmark to Belgium

Leg 10: Belgium

Leg 11: Panama

Leg 12: FINALE in Atlanta, Georgia

What Neobie said. ^^

But interesting... we have seen more double legs in the last few seasons.

Apskip, do you have the total # of countries for each TAR season handy? It does feel like we get fewer countries than in TAR The Early Years.

[apskip]

An  interesting source that I have never used before is:

epguides.com & TVRage present
The Amazing Race
(a Titles &
Air Dates Guide)
by this TVRage editor
Last updated:
Tue, 18 Oct 2011 1:00

It states that the 12th leg is the finale telecast on 12/11/11.

I consider FutonCritic.com to be a really authoritative source. They SPECULATE that the finale is the 12th leg on Dec. 12. I don't consider this a done deal yet, although I do consider it probable that it will be 12 legs. There is nothing on CBS right now to indicate how many legs or when the finale is.

[apskip]

OK, Peach, just for all you do. Here is the number of countries for each season as best I can determine it (Corsica/France counts as 1, Sicily/Italy counts as 1, Hong Kong/China counts as 1 and Macau/China counts as 1, U.S. does not count at all, even in AR8):

AR1 - 7
AR2 - 7
AR3 - 10
AR4 - 8
AR5 - 10
AR6 - 10
AR7 - 10
AR8 - 3
AR9 - 9
AR10 - 10
AR11- 9
AR12 - 9
AR13 - 7
AR14 - 8
AR15 - 8
AR16 - 8
AR17 - 9
AR18 - 8

[theschnauzers]

Guys, Phil said at the beginning of the Race at the start line that there are 12 legs this time. The question has always been whether CBS was aiming for a two-hour episode somewhere, or ending on December 11th, by going straight through 12 weeks.

I've said before that I thought a finale on the second Sunday of December was likely, with Survivor the following week, and Christmas being the weekend after that. Especially now that CBS is not having to deal with scheduling a Hallmark Hall of Fame presentation for the holiday period.

I think we have another country with two legs somewhere after Malawi. Which means either Belgium or Panama. I'm not surprised by the number of countries getting two legs, if for no other reason that it helps them manage a budget when there is only one African country, and the time it must have taken to work that in with legs beforehand in Thailand and afterwards in Europe.

[georgiapeach]

Thanks apskip, cool reference links!
And yes, UNLESS there is a double ep finale, then ours should be 12/11, as theschnauzers points out.

And wow...guess we are pretty close year to year as far as legs go. I guess 8 just feels like a lot less than 10!! Thanks for pulling that together, apskip!!

And Panama should not be a double leg based on sightings..

Either Denmark, or a transitting episode Denmark to Brussels, or Belgium is our last double leg.

[Flamant]

I guess 8 just feels like a lot less than 10!!

It's because TAR10 had 12 countries, not 10 (China, Mongolia, Vietnam, India, Kuwait, Mauritius, Madagascar, Finland, Ukraine, Morocco, Spain, France)

[Dom]

OK, Peach, just for all you do. Here is the number of countries for each season as best I can determine it (Corsica/France counts as 1, Sicily/Italy counts as 1, Hong Kong/China counts as 1 and Macau/China counts as 1, U.S. does not count at all, even in AR8):

AR1 - 7
AR2 - 7
AR3 - 10
AR4 - 8
AR5 - 10
AR6 - 10
AR7 - 10
AR8 - 3
AR9 - 9
AR10 - 10
AR11- 9
AR12 - 9
AR13 - 7
AR14 - 8
AR15 - 8
AR16 - 8
AR17 - 9
AR18 - 8

My numbers differ quite a bit from yours. Does yours only include Pit Stops?

TAR1: Should we count South Africa as visited? Teams made their way by land from one airport to another in Johannesburg. This would make the total 8 countries.
TAR3: Teams travelled from Portugal through Spain to get to the ferry to Morocco. I make it 11 countries.
TAR7: Puerto Rico is a territory of the USA, so I make this season only 9 countries.
TAR10: flamant is right, there were indeed 12 countries.
TAR11: Zanzibar is a Tanzanian territory, Hong Kong & Macau are both Chinese and Guam is a territory of the USA. Therefore I make this season 8 countries.

TAR1 - 8
TAR2 - 7
TAR3 - 11
TAR4 - 8
TAR5 - 10
TAR6 - 10
TAR7 - 9
TAR8 - 3
TAR9 - 9
TAR10 - 12
TAR11 - 8
TAR12 - 9
TAR13 - 7
TAR14 - 8
TAR15 - 8
TAR16 - 8
TAR17 - 9
TAR18 - 8

[apskip]

I guess 8 just feels like a lot less than 10!!

It's because TAR10 had 12 countries, not 10 (China, Mongolia, Vietnam, India, Kuwait, Mauritius, Madagascar, Finland, Ukraine, Morocco, Spain, France)

flamant777,
You are quite correct. I did get a count of 12 originally. However, my miserable handwriting and the fact the AR10 was squeezed in at the bottom of a note caused me to transcribe it wrong.

[apskip]

OK, Peach, just for all you do. Here is the number of countries for each season as best I can determine it (Corsica/France counts as 1, Sicily/Italy counts as 1, Hong Kong/China counts as 1 and Macau/China counts as 1, U.S. does not count at all, even in AR8):

AR1 - 7
AR2 - 7
AR3 - 10
AR4 - 8
AR5 - 10
AR6 - 10
AR7 - 10
AR8 - 3
AR9 - 9
AR10 - 10
AR11- 9
AR12 - 9
AR13 - 7
AR14 - 8
AR15 - 8
AR16 - 8
AR17 - 9
AR18 - 8

My numbers differ quite a bit from yours. Does yours only include Pit Stops?

TAR1: Should we count South Africa as visited? Teams made their way by land from one airport to another in Johannesburg. This would make the total 8 countries.
TAR3: Teams travelled from Portugal through Spain to get to the ferry to Morocco. I make it 11 countries.
TAR7: Puerto Rico is a territory of the USA, so I make this season only 9 countries.
TAR10: flamant is right, there were indeed 12 countries.
TAR11: Zanzibar is a Tanzanian territory, Hong Kong & Macau are both Chinese and Guam is a territory of the USA. Therefore I make this season 8 countries.

TAR1 - 8
TAR2 - 7
TAR3 - 11
TAR4 - 8
TAR5 - 10
TAR6 - 10
TAR7 - 9
TAR8 - 3
TAR9 - 9
TAR10 - 12
TAR11 - 8
TAR12 - 9
TAR13 - 7
TAR14 - 8
TAR15 - 8
TAR16 - 8
TAR17 - 9
TAR18 - 8

Dom El,
It is obvious that I made different assumptions and you have done a good job of highlighting them. Transit points where no tasks take place do NOT count in my scheme of things. Therefore,
1. AR1 - South Africa is ignored
2. AR3 - Spain is ignored
3. Puerto Rico is indeed a territory of the U.S. and so is Guam, but I consider both of them as distinct countries for the purpose of counting.

However, Zanzibar Island is definitely part of Tanzania, but I assumed that in my count. According to my rules of counting 9 is still correct for AR11.

[Flamant]

Season 19, Episode 8
Episode Synopsis: The race continues in Copenhagen. Original Air Date: Nov 13, 2011

[georgiapeach]

Heh, they are telling US?

Thanks!!

[Chateau d If]

Season 19, Episode 8
Episode Synopsis: The race continues in Copenhagen. Original Air Date: Nov 13, 2011

"I can't wait!!"

[georgiapeach]

Cutest task EVER??