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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #125 on: June 13, 2011, 10:10:35 AM »

Hey MDS!  Great to have your support.   :jam:   The answers are pretty much yes and no.  The bottom line is we hold the playbook close to to our chest.  The rules are ever-changing.  I watch here and check for messages many times a day to be ready.   

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #126 on: June 13, 2011, 08:13:45 PM »
Well i read on another forum,a women telling the people that their husband its part of security of the airport of Oklahoma city (i doesn now the name) and their ask them to take care of it because The Amazing Race was going to start in Oklahoma City.And about the volcano,the ash and the smoke are no more longer in my town.But Argentina and Chile are impossible destiny's at this point. São Paulo was covered too,but no longer more.The people that is saying that Bolivia,Peru and Paraguai are impossible destiny's,are probably uninformed.The smoke will be gone in two weeks,that's what i think.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #127 on: June 13, 2011, 08:16:31 PM »
I'm gonna try to find this forum! In their says too that Servia have great chances of been on the route.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #128 on: June 13, 2011, 09:03:28 PM »
Welcome to RFF DecliveBL!

But please read the following closely before posting any spoilers, okay?? :ty3:

Since that info was posted ages ago...plenty of time for things to have changed!


Have moved this over to the TAR 19 thread. :jam:

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2011, 12:25:39 AM »
Let the race begin !!!  :jam:

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2011, 02:39:19 AM »
Season 1: NYC
Season 2: Las Vegas
Season 3: Everglades, Florida
Season 4: Los Angeles
Season 5: Santa Monica, CA
Season 6: Chicago
Season 7: Long Beach, CA
Season 8: NYC
Season 9: Morrison, Colorado
Season 10: Seattle, Washington
Season 11: Palmetto Bay, Florida
Season 12: Los Angeles
Season 13: Los Angeles
Season 14: Los Alamitos, CA
Season 15: Los Angeles
Season 16: Los Angeles
Season 17: Gloucester, Massachusetts
Season 18: Palm Springs, CA

Only 4 of the 17 seasons that started with air travel left from the East Coast, 2 from the Mountain Standard timezone (Denver/Las Vegas) and 1 from the Central Standard timezone (Chicago). The remaining 10 seasons started on the West Coast, with only 1 being non-LAX (Seattle).

The criteria for the departure city would be the following, I would think:
* Has multiple options for trans-oceanic flights to the first destination city, as taking a domestic leg usually isn't in the predetermined first flight itinerary
* The departure times have to be fairly soon (e.g. few hours) after the start of leg 1, which is usually filmed in the morning (any notes on which is the most common day of week for starting a race?)  You can't have a team having to camp out for hours waiting for their first flight, or they'll get spotted by fans!

I am sure many US cities with major international airports fit the criteria. In fact, most of the 1st leg departure airports are hubs for at least one airline with direct international flights: JFK, LAX, ORD, DIA, and MIA.  SEA and LAS are probably the odd ones out. It's a wonder why Atlanta (ATL - home of Delta) and the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex (DFW - home of AA) have never been chosen as a starting city!


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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #131 on: June 14, 2011, 04:01:44 AM »
The ashcloud is currently over New Zealand and the south-eastern corner of Australia, but I think we can pretty much confirm Christchurch and Melbourne wouldn't have been the first destinations visited anyway.

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #132 on: June 14, 2011, 06:59:52 AM »
The ashcloud is currently over New Zealand and the south-eastern corner of Australia, but I think we can pretty much confirm Christchurch and Melbourne wouldn't have been the first destinations visited anyway.

All because of Coutzy I don't think they will dare visit  :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #133 on: June 14, 2011, 07:24:01 AM »
Season 1: NYC
Season 2: Las Vegas
Season 3: Everglades, Florida
Season 4: Los Angeles
Season 5: Santa Monica, CA
Season 6: Chicago
Season 7: Long Beach, CA
Season 8: NYC
Season 9: Morrison, Colorado
Season 10: Seattle, Washington
Season 11: Palmetto Bay, Florida
Season 12: Los Angeles
Season 13: Los Angeles
Season 14: Los Alamitos, CA
Season 15: Los Angeles
Season 16: Los Angeles
Season 17: Gloucester, Massachusetts
Season 18: Palm Springs, CA

Only 4 of the 17 seasons that started with air travel left from the East Coast, 2 from the Mountain Standard timezone (Denver/Las Vegas) and 1 from the Central Standard timezone (Chicago). The remaining 10 seasons started on the West Coast, with only 1 being non-LAX (Seattle).

The criteria for the departure city would be the following, I would think:
* Has multiple options for trans-oceanic flights to the first destination city, as taking a domestic leg usually isn't in the predetermined first flight itinerary
* The departure times have to be fairly soon (e.g. few hours) after the start of leg 1, which is usually filmed in the morning (any notes on which is the most common day of week for starting a race?)  You can't have a team having to camp out for hours waiting for their first flight, or they'll get spotted by fans!

I am sure many US cities with major international airports fit the criteria. In fact, most of the 1st leg departure airports are hubs for at least one airline with direct international flights: JFK, LAX, ORD, DIA, and MIA.  SEA and LAS are probably the odd ones out. It's a wonder why Atlanta (ATL - home of Delta) and the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex (DFW - home of AA) have never been chosen as a starting city!

kenchan:
You have some good thoughts above. The most typical starting day of the week for an amazing Race start is Saturday. Although I have not developed statistics to support that observation, I am confident that is what statistics will show. Although I don't know why World Race Productions has chosen that, my guess is that it is (along with Tuesdays and Wednesdays) the lowest travel days of the week (thus minimizing the chance of at-airport sitings) plus local traffic from the actual start point to whichever airport is relevant is also near its low.

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #134 on: June 14, 2011, 08:04:56 AM »
Another good reason why they have almost always started on a Friday Saturday Sunday or Monday is that the participants have to have taken vacation time from work so starting in the middle of the week would be impractical.

The reasons you gave, kenchan, are why the OK City rumors are most likely incorrect. We see a lot of LAX because it is such a reliable international hub, among other reasons. Starting in a midwestern city probably means connecting through LAX or JFK anyway which is just more opportunity for sightings.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2011, 08:17:52 AM »
kenchan:
You have some good thoughts above. The most typical starting day of the week for an amazing Race start is Saturday. Although I have not developed statistics to support that observation, I am confident that is what statistics will show. Although I don't know why World Race Productions has chosen that, my guess is that it is (along with Tuesdays and Wednesdays) the lowest travel days of the week (thus minimizing the chance of at-airport sitings) plus local traffic from the actual start point to whichever airport is relevant is also near its low.
You are correct, the most common start day is Saturday.
Just noticed that we've never had a race start in June.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2011, 09:04:28 AM »
Very interesting post. Does this mean that we are likely to see the race begin towards the end of June?

I'm eager to keep up to date with all the spoilers as I'm currently touring south-east Asia, and would love to do some detective work!

Might we see the race finally visit Bali, as per TARA and TAR Aus?

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #137 on: June 14, 2011, 09:46:26 AM »
Alright,sorry guys,i will not post without the source anymore.
I was just giving information about the Puyehe,because i think the race it's going to come here (chile,argentina,paraguai,peru...). I cant see or give information about the show because i live in a small town in Brazil,and Brazil was already in route 18
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #138 on: June 14, 2011, 09:59:06 AM »
Alright,sorry guys,i will not post without the source anymore.
I was just giving information about the Puyehe,because i think the race it's going to come here (chile,argentina,paraguai,peru...). I cant see or give information about the show because i live in a small town in Brazil,and Brazil was already in route 18

Don't feel bad about not being able to find the source of your information. It happens. I've posted stuff a couple of times without keeping a good record of where I saw it and a week or two later I couldn't find it again. Also, if you have an internet connection, you can find information about what's happening on the show. It just takes good detective work and way too much free time. Especially the latter.  :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2011, 04:13:39 PM »
Just hurt here on the national tv,that Brazil is the first country to re-take the flights to Argentina and Uruguay, Chile is still a destination impossible.A connecting flight to this locations it's now a valid option for the route.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #140 on: June 15, 2011, 12:10:41 AM »
Season 1: NYC
Season 2: Las Vegas
Season 3: Everglades, Florida
Season 4: Los Angeles
Season 5: Santa Monica, CA
Season 6: Chicago
Season 7: Long Beach, CA
Season 8: NYC
Season 9: Morrison, Colorado
Season 10: Seattle, Washington
Season 11: Palmetto Bay, Florida
Season 12: Los Angeles
Season 13: Los Angeles
Season 14: Los Alamitos, CA
Season 15: Los Angeles
Season 16: Los Angeles
Season 17: Gloucester, Massachusetts
Season 18: Palm Springs, CA

Only 4 of the 17 seasons that started with air travel left from the East Coast, 2 from the Mountain Standard timezone (Denver/Las Vegas) and 1 from the Central Standard timezone (Chicago). The remaining 10 seasons started on the West Coast, with only 1 being non-LAX (Seattle).

The criteria for the departure city would be the following, I would think:
* Has multiple options for trans-oceanic flights to the first destination city, as taking a domestic leg usually isn't in the predetermined first flight itinerary
* The departure times have to be fairly soon (e.g. few hours) after the start of leg 1, which is usually filmed in the morning (any notes on which is the most common day of week for starting a race?)  You can't have a team having to camp out for hours waiting for their first flight, or they'll get spotted by fans!

I am sure many US cities with major international airports fit the criteria. In fact, most of the 1st leg departure airports are hubs for at least one airline with direct international flights: JFK, LAX, ORD, DIA, and MIA.  SEA and LAS are probably the odd ones out. It's a wonder why Atlanta (ATL - home of Delta) and the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex (DFW - home of AA) have never been chosen as a starting city!

Las Vegas is in Pacific Time not Mountain Time.  Also Other hub cities like San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Detroit, Washington-Dulles, Philadelphia, and Houston (United-Continental) are left out in the dark.  Smaller hub cities like Portland, Orlando, Tampa, Cleveland, Cincinnati, San Diego, Honolulu, Washington-National, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Anchorage are also possible places to start the race as for airport wise.  But I really like to see the Starting Line in San Juan, Puerto Rico with the first leg somewhere in the Caribbean like the Lesser Antilles island nations.

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #141 on: June 15, 2011, 12:17:56 AM »
Just hurt here on the national tv,that Brazil is the first country to re-take the flights to Argentina and Uruguay, Chile is still a destination impossible.A connecting flight to this locations it's now a valid option for the route.

Still don't believe it. I can't see the national news announcing it as these are usually kept as close to private as possible.

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #142 on: June 15, 2011, 12:39:01 AM »
He mean't the flights being redirected from Argentina and Uruguay, not the race I believe. :groan:
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #143 on: June 15, 2011, 12:46:34 AM »
He mean't the flights being redirected from Argentina and Uruguay, not the race I believe. :groan:

Yeah, I should probably read before I post.  :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #144 on: June 15, 2011, 12:57:14 AM »
kenchan:
You have some good thoughts above. The most typical starting day of the week for an amazing Race start is Saturday. <SNIP>
You are correct, the most common start day is Saturday.
Just noticed that we've never had a race start in June.
Hope this isn't too wide to read...

Wow WP, that's a really nice chart! (I'm a sucker for spreadsheets too). I guess it would be interesting to juxtapose the day of week when the teams arrived at the first destination city. In some cases, there's an artificial overnight stay, like in the case of TAR15, when they went to Tokyo but stayed overnight before they went to the studios for that silly TV game show.
 
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #145 on: June 15, 2011, 01:07:25 AM »
Las Vegas is in Pacific Time not Mountain Time.  Also Other hub cities like San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Detroit, Washington-Dulles, Philadelphia, and Houston (United-Continental) are left out in the dark.  Smaller hub cities like Portland, Orlando, Tampa, Cleveland, Cincinnati, San Diego, Honolulu, Washington-National, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Anchorage are also possible places to start the race as for airport wise.  But I really like to see the Starting Line in San Juan, Puerto Rico with the first leg somewhere in the Caribbean like the Lesser Antilles island nations.

Ah, you're right. Las Vegas is indeed in PST/PDT. Thanks for the correction.

Some of those hub cities were actually end cities, such as SFO, PHX, PDX, HNL

So what makes for an ideal starting location then?  There has to be some other factors, such how well the production staff has worked with the local authorities and tourism offices. After all, every place TAR visits gets showcased nicely, usually with intriguing aerial views involved.
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #146 on: June 15, 2011, 10:52:55 AM »
São Paulo have made the first flight to Montevideo today,because Santos (a soccer team famous here) will play the game of their life against Peñarol (another soccer team) it's the final of the Libertadores (most famous and important soccer competition on latino america)
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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #147 on: June 15, 2011, 11:56:05 AM »
FYI - Air Canada customer service is on strike right now. Its being run by management right now with few delays, but if it drags on much longer crossing picket lines could be an issue.

The federal government is threatening to order them back to work, but that would be very unpopular.
Until then - its bedlam at most Canadian airports - long lines at ticket counters and cancelled flights - so situation normal.  :lol:
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« Reply #148 on: June 15, 2011, 01:50:30 PM »
Would whoever started that poll please remove it immediately? There is a glitch that makes polls impossible to remove after so many posts and we don't want to be looking at this forever.

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Re: The Amazing Race 19 pre-Race Speculation
« Reply #149 on: June 15, 2011, 02:06:05 PM »
Would whoever started that poll please remove it immediately? There is a glitch that makes polls impossible to remove after so many posts and we don't want to be looking at this forever.

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Sorry wan't aware of the glitch. I have removed it. :)
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