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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2011, 03:42:36 PM »
It appears to me, though, that Route 13 is on the Swiss side of the border.  My guess would be Hwy 28, Landstrasse, Feldkircher Strasse.  And since they are going from Austria to Switzerland, it would make sense to go North to South.


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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2011, 01:34:09 AM »
It appears to me, though, that Route 13 is on the Swiss side of the border.  My guess would be Hwy 28, Landstrasse, Feldkircher Strasse.  And since they are going from Austria to Switzerland, it would make sense to go North to South.

The western border between Liechtenstein and Switzerland is the middle of the Rhine River. The 12/A-13 is on the Switz side of the river and like Chill-sd, just cant see them using that road. Plus it is extremely high traffic. As fast and loose as production has been with there descriptions this race, I suspect they got the mopeds at the Feldkirk border crossing and used the last bridge just SW of Balzers to cross back into Switzerland. It is a pretty low traffic crossing and smaller bridge. They will have to have lots of production people to collect the mopeds, etc. It is also not far from Sargans where we know that Kisah/Jen boarded the train to begin the journey to Zermatt.

Likely route for moped:
Feldkirk border crossing
to
Schaan
to
Vaduz
to
Balzers
to
Balzers border crossing
« Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 01:53:44 AM by DrRox »
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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2011, 06:58:35 AM »
Dr. Rox:

I see your point about Rout 13 being just on the Swiss side of the border. However, E43 appears completely inside the Liechtenstein side of the border. I can visualize this road as having significant traffic, which makes its use inexplicable. However, there is no other single road which can provide a north-south (or south-north) route. 

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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2011, 08:31:52 AM »
Dr. Rox:

I see your point about Rout 13 being just on the Swiss side of the border. However, E43 appears completely inside the Liechtenstein side of the border. I can visualize this road as having significant traffic, which makes its use inexplicable. However, there is no other single road which can provide a north-south (or south-north) route. 

apskip:

On Google Earth, the E43 (green sign) appears to be the Autobahn on the Swiss side of the Rhine. The 13/A13 (Blue sign) appear to be the pre-Autobahn highway in that area of Switzerland, sort of like the parallel US Highway 80 and Interstate 20 in my part of the world. Across the Rhine from northern Liechtenstein, the E43 has another 13 sign on it, this sign in in orange. So there are two different 13 signs, one in blue and one in orange, but not on the same road. If that makes sense.

On GE, there are no highway numbered roads in Liechtenstein, they only have street names. My proposed route is the 191 (blue sign) out of Feldkirk to the boarder. Then the same road is called Feldkirkerstrasse. Further south around Schaan, it becomes Landstrasse all the way through Vaduz and to Balzers. West and Southwest of Balzers there are two bridges across the Rhine. One on Gagoz (street/road) and the other on Rheinstrasse (street/road). Both bridges connect to Tubbach, Switzerland. Tubbach is maybe a mile north of Sargans, where we know Kisha/Jen boarded the train for Zurich.

Liechtenstein only had a population of about 30,000. I, personally, wonder just how high the density of travel on those main roads are. There are a couple of more remote border crossings in the far norht of Liechtenstein, but it seems to me to be problematic getting teams to them, to start the moped ride. The Highway 191 crossing only appears to be a couple of miles from the Feldkirk train station. Maybe Neobie can clarify, since he had boots on the ground there.

In the end, it just depends on what production wanted to do anyway. They are going to have to have space for a lot of people and vehicles where ever they start and stop the moped ride. It appears to me that the other team member and film crew travel along in a van to the other end of the ride. So production will have lots of crew for this little show.
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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2011, 07:26:47 PM »
Liechtenstein only had a population of about 30,000. I, personally, wonder just how high the density of travel on those main roads are. There are a couple of more remote border crossings in the far norht of Liechtenstein, but it seems to me to be problematic getting teams to them, to start the moped ride. The Highway 191 crossing only appears to be a couple of miles from the Feldkirk train station. Maybe Neobie can clarify, since he had boots on the ground there.

Nothing's too far in this area, especially since the teams had taxis to ferry them around. It took me half an hour by bus, via a very convuluted route (it was a Sunday and the direct wasn't running) from Feldkirch to Schann, and then a ten minute ride between Schann and Vaduz. Traffic (it was, albeit, a Sunday) was close to negligible, but I don't see it being much different on any other day of the week.
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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2011, 08:11:09 PM »
A first attempt at a Li/Sw map.

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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2011, 09:45:54 AM »
Here is a map showing Big Pine Key (far west on a level wide enough to show that), the west end of Marathon Key, Galway Bay Mobile Home Park near the west end of Marathon Key, and the New Seven Mile Bridge. The initial level gives you the pin on Galway Bay. Zoom out one level to get the 2km/mile indicator on the lower left to see new Seven Mile Bridge and one further to get the 5km/ mile indicator showing the eastern edge of Big Pine Key.

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I want to get this into perspective. The Keys being with mile marker 157 and end at mile marker 0 at Key West. Jules Undersea Lodge is at MM103. Big Pine Key has a range of Mile Markers centering on 31, with 29 on its western edge. To get to Big Pine Key, the taxis driving the teams have to go through Marathon and over the new Seven Mile Bridge. I have seen pictures of perhaps Big Pine Island from the beach on Horseshoe Island, but my efforts to precisely pin down Horseshoe Island have not been successful. Teams then have to retrace US 1 east for about 19 miles to the west end of Marathon Key to find the Galway Bay Mobile Home Park. After that they would get the jetboat ride to the beginning of the Old 7 Mile Bridge. The Old Seven Mile Bridge is currently slated for extinction.

I have learned that a key part of the western end of Old 7 Mile Bridge is definitely already gone. The 2.2-mile span leads to historic Pigeon Key off the west end of Marathon. So, the trike race was only 2.2 miles, not the assumed 7 miles.

below is a photo of Old 7 Mile Bridge.
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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2011, 10:14:59 PM »
Working backwards now...









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Re: The Map Thread For TAR18: The Holding Zone
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2011, 11:53:32 PM »
Maps for Legs 8-10, with extra huge map for Zermatt!











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