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The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« on: May 20, 2010, 12:20:59 PM »
SPOILER SUMMARY REVIEW (TAR17): What We Knew Ahead of Time
 
ROUTE SUMMARY
EP01: Gloucester/Boston, MA (USA) to England
Film Date: MAY 26-MAY 27
Air Date: SEPT 26

Leg Route/Tasks:
START: Teams ride lobster boats from State Fish Pier across Gloucester Inner Harbor to starting line at Eastern Point Yacht Club
EVIDENCE: Report and photos (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Drive yourselves (in Smart Cars) to Logan International Airport (Crews following in SUVs)
EVIDENCE: Report of teams asking for directions on East Main Street (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROUTE INFO: Fly to London, England
First 3 teams on AA108 (DEP 7:06pm/ARR 7:00am) (Source):
    Stephanie/Chad Dating (initially wearing blue and black and changed into black at Boston airport)
    Ron/Tony: One thin, one heavy-set, dressed in orange
    Jill/Thomas: M (dark hair) in white, F (blonde) in purple (may be wearing lime green pants?)
Other 8 teams on VS12 (DEP 8:02pm/ARR 7:26am) (Source):
    Michael/Kevin: Asian father/son team in blue
    Connor/Jonathon: Wearing green (dark hair, in 20s-30s)
    Gary/Mallory: Gary in yellow (gray hair), Mallory blonde in yellow with black jacket
    Nat/Kat: One in blue (blonde hair), one in black jacket/blue shirt (possibly Asian, dark hair)
    Nick/Vicki: Dark hair, wearing grey/black with lots of tattoos, piercings (may be wearing lime green pants?)
    Brook/Claire: One with dark hair, one blonde
    Rachel/Katie: Blonde, wearing bright green
    Andie/Jenna: Dark hair, wearing red/maroon/black (changed into pink and blue at Boston airport)
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted at airport (Source 1), (Source 2), Ron/Tony and M/F team with tattoos/piercings spotted in customs at LHR (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Drive yourselves to Stonehenge (near Amesbury/Salisbury, England)
EVIDENCE: Reports (Source), report from Australian blogger (Source), teams photographed at site (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Balancing task?
EVIDENCE: Review (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Drive to Eastnor Castle
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Scale wall of castle, perform zipline task to retrieve flag
EVIDENCE: CBS promo (Source 1), Source 2, (Source 3)

ROADBLOCK: Hit knight with launched watermelon (possibly with Knights of Middle England ((Source))
PERFORMED BY: Claire
EVIDENCE: CBS Twitter promo (Source), first promo (Source)

PIT STOP: First place team given Express Pass (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)  (Source 3)
    Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)
    Rachel/Katie: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28, possibly photographed in ARN on 6/1 (Source)
    
Possibly Eliminated:
    Andie/Jenna: No sightings since Logan Airport in Boston (5/26), possibly made it to Ghana re: tweet (Source)
    Ron/Tony: No sightings since LHR customs (5/27)

Status Uncertain:
    Stephanie/Chad: No confirmed sightings since Logan (5/26), POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat (MCT) (6/8)
    Nick/Vicki: Last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12)




EP02: Ledbury, England to Accra, Ghana
Film Date: MAY 28-29
Air Date: OCT 3

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Accra, Ghana
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted in LHR in evening of May 28 (apx 8:52pm GMT) (Source), Virgin flight to Accra (VS657 DEP 10:54pm, ARR 4:35am) matches time window for LHR sighting (Source), teams photographed buying tickets for a Virgin flight with Connor/Jonathon arriving first of four teams (Michael/Kevin, Rachel/Katie, and Brook/Claire) to buy tickets (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3), sighting in Accra on May 30 (Source)

TEAM ORDER: Jill/Thomas arrived between 11:16 and 11:28am in previous leg

ROADBLOCK: Sell sunglasses at Makola Market
PERFORMED BY: Chad, Brook, Jill (all there at the same time)
EVIDENCE: Promos, photo analysis (Source), Source 2, Source 3, Source 4

DETOUR: Haul stylized coffin (possibly from Kane Kwai Carpenter Workshop) or...
EVIDENCE: Promos, photo analysis Source , Source 2

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)  (Source 3)
    Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)
    
Possibly Eliminated:
    Andie/Jenna: No sightings since Logan Airport in Boston (5/26), possibly made it to Ghana re: tweet (Source)
    NEL/TBC

Status Uncertain:
    Rachel/Katie: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28, possibly photographed in ARN on 6/1 (Source)
    Stephanie/Chad: No confirmed sightings since Logan (5/26), POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat (MCT) (6/8)
    Nick/Vicki: Last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12)




EP03: Ghana
EVIDENCE: Second leg in Ghana due to timing of Ghana sighting on May 30, confirmed by promos (Source 1), (Source 2)

Film Date: MAY 30-31
Air Date: OCT 10

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Beginning in Accra
EVIDENCE: Sighting on morning of 5/30 in Accra (Source 1), (Source 2)

OTHER INFO: Team spotted running on "beach road"
EVIDENCE: Sighting (Source)

ROADBLOCK: Boxing task near Mantdik Printing Press
PERFORMED BY: Brook, Connor, Kevin
EVIDENCE: Commercial (Source)

ROUTE INFO: African geography quiz: Locate Ghana on a map
EVIDENCE: CBS press release, (Source), promo (Source)

DETOUR: Construction-related task with cinder blocks/shovels/wheelbarrows or hoop rolling relay/course
EVIDENCE: Promo at end of EP02 (Source), commercial (Source)
WHEELBARROW TASK: Nick/Vicki, Katie/Rachel
HOOP ROLLING TASK: Nick/Vicki, Stephanie/Chad, Katie/Rachel, Brook/Claire, Michael/Kevin

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)  (Source 3)
    Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)
    
Possibly Eliminated:
    NEL/TBC?

Status Uncertain:
    Rachel/Katie: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28, possibly photographed in ARN on 6/1 (Source)
    Stephanie/Chad: No confirmed sightings since Logan (5/26), POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat (MCT) (6/8)
    Nick/Vicki: Last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12)




EP04: Accra, Ghana to Kiruna, Sweden (via Frankfurt, Germany and Stockholm, Sweden)
Film Date: JUNE 1-2
Air Date: OCT 17
EVIDENCE: Arctic Circle destination confirmed in press release (Source), teams possibly spotted arriving at Kiruna airport (6/1) and leaving in Saab 9-3x (Source)

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Kiruna, Sweden via Frankfurt, Germany and Stockholm, Sweden
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted on flight to Frankfurt on May 31(LH 567 DEP 10:03pm, ARR 6:38am) (Source), teams later spotted at Stockholm airport (ARN) on June 1 (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROUTE INFO: Drive yourself to Icehotel in Jukkasjärvi
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source)

ROADBLOCK: Dog sledding at Active Lapland?
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source), photo ID work (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Michael, Mallory

ROUTE INFO: Find Vassijaure Station
EVIDENCE: ET promo (Source), photo confirmation (Source)

DETOUR: SLEDS (Tech sled course at Riksgränsen) or BEDS (Tipi assembly)
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP03, photo confirmation (Source), ET promo (Source)
SLEDS: Chad/Stephanie (between 7:55 and 8:47pm)
BEDS: Michael/Kevin

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Connor/Jonathon: Last sighting upon arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)
    Rachel/Katie: Last POSSIBLE sighting upon arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)

Status Uncertain:
    Stephanie/Chad: No confirmed sightings since Logan (5/26), POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat (MCT) (6/8)
    Nick/Vicki: Last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12)




EP05: Kiruna, Sweden to Norway (connecting through ARN (Stockholm) on departure)
EVIDENCE: TV Guide listing (Source), teams spotted on flight leaving Stockholm (ARN) 6/5 (SK 732 DEP 10:14am ARR: 13:33) (Source)

Film Date: JUNE 3-4
Air Date: OCT 24

Leg Route/Tasks:
FAST FORWARD?: Eat smalahove (at Hildringstimen boathouse in Vidrek)
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP04 (Source), photo analysis (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Nat/Kat

ROADBLOCK: Drop from bridge/ascender rise (at Skjomen bridge near Narvik)
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP04 (Source), photo analysis (Source), second promo (Source)
TEAM ORDER: Michael/Kevin, Brook/Claire performing task at same time
PERFORMED BY: Claire, Kevin, Gary

DETOUR: Bike task or...
EVIDENCE: Second promo (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Jill/Thomas, Brook/Claire

ROUTE INFO: Tasks in Stetind Mountain area?
EVIDENCE: Screen cap of Stetind Mountain (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)
    At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Rachel/Katie: Last POSSIBLE sighting upon arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)

Status Uncertain:
    Stephanie/Chad: No confirmed sightings since Logan (5/26), POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat (MCT) (6/8)
    Nick/Vicki: Last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12)




EP06: Norway to St. Petersburg, Russia (via Stockholm, Sweden)
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted at ARN (Stockholm) flying to St. Petersburg 6/5 (SK 732 DEP 10:14am, ARR 1:33pm) (Source 1), (Source 2)

Film Date: JUNE 5-6
Air Date: OCT 31

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Train to ARL (Stockholm), fly to St. Petersburg, Russia
EVIDENCE: Twitvid with train (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Find St. Isaac's Cathedral
EVIDENCE: Possible sighting of teams getting a clue there (Source), promo after EP05/photo ID (Source)
OTHER INFO: Possibly Michael/Kevin's cab approaching cathedral between 3:35 and 4:05pm (Source)

DETOUR: Identify piece of music with multiple piano players (?) at Beloselsky-Belozersky Palace (Source) or search for matching film (Eisenstein's "October") among film strips (?)
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP05 (Source)
PIANOS: Nick/Vicki, Chad/Stephanie, Nat/Kat (both), Gary/Mallory (both)
FILM: Jill/Thomas, Michael/Kevin, Gary/Mallory (both), Nat/Kat (both)

ROADBLOCK: Manure task at potato farm
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP05 (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Nick, Brook, Kevin, Jill

ROUTE INFO: Tasks at/near Naval Museum?
EVIDENCE: Photo of museum in intro caps (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1)
    Stephanie/Chad: POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat Airport on evening of 6/8 or 9

Possibly Eliminated:
    Michael/Kevin: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5
    Gary/Mallory: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5




EP07: St. Petersburg, Russia
EVIDENCE: TV Guide (Source)

Film Date: JUNE 7
Air Date: NOV 7

Leg Route/Tasks:
DETOUR: Plate-spinning or accordion task at circus (likely hours of operation equalizer here (Source))
EVIDENCE: Show title (Source), promo after EP06 (Source), third promo (Source)
PLATE TASK: Brook/Claire, Stephanie/Chad, Nick/Vicki, Michael/Kevin
ACCORDION TASK: Jill/Thomas

ROUTE INFO: Travel by bus to church?
EVIDENCE: Teams shown in promo outside Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood (Source), likely at wrong location

ROADBLOCK: Gorodki at courtyards at Peter and Paul Fortress
EVIDENCE: CBS release (Source), promo after EP06 (Source), Photo ID (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Michael, Brook, Kat, Thomas, Stephanie
TIMING: Michael, Brook performing task simultaneously

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1)
    Stephanie/Chad: POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat Airport on evening of 6/8 or 9

Possibly Eliminated:
    Gary/Mallory: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5
    Michael/Kevin: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5




EP08: St. Petersburg, Russia to Oman
EVIDENCE: TV Guide confirmation (Source), sighting of teams in Muscat Airport on evening of June 9 looking for flights to Bangladesh (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3), Jill/Thomas possibly on 9W 539 from Muscat to Mumbai (DEP: 12:35am 6/9, ARR: 4:35am 6/9) connecting to 9W 276 from Mumbai to Dhaka (DEP: 9:30am, ARR 1:03pm), F/F team possibly on QR 169 (DEP: 11:36pm, ARR 11:48pm 6/8) connecting to UNKNOWN flight (Source)

Film Date: JUNE 8-9
Air Date: NOV 14
 
Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Muscat, Oman and climb steps to Portuguese Watchtower
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source), photo ID (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Drive yourselves to Jebel Shams?
EVIDENCE: Self driving in promo (Source)

ROADBLOCK: Rappelling at Jebel Shams; find oil lamp with ring
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source), photo ID (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Kat, Jill, Vicki, Chad
TIMING INFO: Chad, Jill performing task simultaneously (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Bedouin tea task?
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source)

OTHER INFO: Tasks at or near Blue Mosque, Al Qubrah Mosque?
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP07 (Source), photo ID (Source), second promo (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Stephanie/Chad: No evidence of sightings from this point on
    Gary/Mallory: Not seen since flight to St Petersburg 6/5




EP09: Muscat, Oman to Bangladesh
EVIDENCE: Credibility from confirmation of Bangladesh in press release (Source), sighting of teams in Muscat Airport on evening of June 8/9 looking for flights to Bangladesh (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3), Jill/Thomas possibly on 9W 539 from Muscat to Mumbai (DEP: 12:35am 6/9, ARR: 4:35am 6/9) connecting to 9W 276 from Mumbai to Dhaka (DEP: 9:30am, ARR 1:03pm), F/F team possibly on QR 169 (DEP: 11:36pm, ARR 11:48pm 6/8) connecting to UNKNOWN flight (Source)

Film Date: JUNE 10
Air Date: NOV 21

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Dhaka, Bangladesh

ROADBLOCK: Construct rickshaw
EVIDENCE: Second promo (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Nat, Stephanie, Brook, Thomas
TIMING: Nat/Kat, Chad/Stephanie, Brook/Claire performing task simultaneously

ROUTE INFO: Tasks at/near Gulistan Bazaar
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP08 (Source), local help (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by rickshaw to... ?
EVIDENCE: Photo ID from promo after EP08 (Source), several shots from second promo (Source)

ROUTE INFO?: Travel by boat on Buriganga River (starting at Sadar Ghat) to...?
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP08 (Source), local help (Source)

DETOUR: Pressing/drinking sugar cane OR hauling bricks
EVIDENCE: Second promo (Source)
SUGAR CANE: Chad/Stephanie, Nat/Kat, Brook/Claire
BRICKS: Chad/Stephanie, Jill/Thomas, Brook/Claire

DOUBLE U-TURN: Brook/Claire, Chad/Stephanie possibly U-Turned

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
    Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source 1), (Source 2)
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Stephanie/Chad: No evidence of sightings beyond this leg




EP10: Bangladesh to Hong Kong, People's Republic of China

Film Date: JUNE 12-13
Air Date: NOV 28

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Hong Kong, People's Republic of China
EVIDENCE: Teams seen arriving at Hong Kong Airport around 2:45pm 6/12 (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by bus to Central Ferry Pier
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted en route to bus station from airport, local information (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by ferry to Cheung Chau (around 3:00pm)
EVIDENCE: Local information (Source), confirmation from promo after EP09 (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Possible task in Cheung Chau
EVIDENCE: Brook/Claire, Nat/Kat and probably Jill/Thomas spotted here  (Source 1), (Source 2),
(Source 3),  (Image 1), (Image 2)

ROUTE INFO: Find Cheung Po Tsai Cave
EVIDENCE: Sighting (Source), confirmation from Neobie (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by ferry to Central Ferry Pier
EVIDENCE: Local information (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by ferry/cab(?) to Tsim Sha Tsui/Kowloon
EVIDENCE: Local information (Source), Nat/Kat on Star Ferry in promo (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROADBLOCK: "Sushi" eating task
EVIDENCE: Promo (Source)
PERFORMED BY: Claire, Nat, Vicki, Thomas
TIMING: Vicki, Claire, Nat, Thomas perform task simultaneously

ROUTE INFO: Task at Seibu Department Store (Tsim Sha Tsui) (Around 6:00pm)
EVIDENCE: Two teams spotted there (Brooke/Claire and Jill/Thomas) (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by taxi to...
EVIDENCE: Sighting of teams running to intersection of Nathan Road and Haiphong Road to catch cab after department store task (Source),  
Jill/Thomas and Brook/Claire possibly seen entering cabs around 6:40pm (Jill/Thomas first, Brook/Claire four minutes later after calling cab) (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3), (Source 4), (Source 5), (Image 1), (Image 2), (Image 3), (Image 4)

ROUTE INFO: Travel to Avenue of Stars (Tsim Sha Tsui) (task here?)
EVIDENCE: Photo of Jill/Thomas here (Source)

POSSIBLE DESTINATIONS/TASKS: Kowloon Park (or mosque near park), Zhangbaozai Cave, Wan Chai, tram in Sai Wan
EVIDENCE: Possible sightings (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source)
    Nat/Kat: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source)
    Jill/Thomas: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea  (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX




EP11: Hong Kong, People's Republic of China to Seoul, South Korea

Film Date: JUN 14
Air Date: DEC 5

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Seoul, South Korea, FOUR teams remain at beginning of leg (Source)
EVIDENCE: Teams reported on flight arriving in Korea before 3pm on June 14 (Source),
possibly on KE 608 (DEP: 12:25am, ARR: 4:52am), OZ 724 (DEP: 12:27am, ARR:5:05am), CX 412 (DEP: 12:31am, ARR:4:49am) or CX 410 (DEP: 10:14am, ARR: 2:33pm) (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)

ROUTE INFO: Drive yourselves to...
EVIDENCE: Self-driving in promo after EP10 Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel to Dongducheon, South Korea
EVIDENCE: Camp Casey task (see below)

ROUTE INFO?: Find marked headband on one of a hundred soldiers doing tae kwon do demonstration at Camp Casey and have him break a block of wood to find clue inside (Source)
EVIDENCE: Reports from base (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3); reports of an "advanced crew" rehearsal on site (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3), (Source 4), (Source 5), (Source 6); Phil spotted filming standups at Camp Casey's Schoonover Bowl at 4pm 6/13 (ahead of team arrival) (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)
TIMING: 2 F/F teams and 1 M/F team five to six hours ahead of fourth place team (See source links above)

ROADBLOCK?: Wash a tank
EVIDENCE: (Source)

DETOUR: Rafting on Hantangang river at Cheorwon near Seungil-gyo bridge OR speed-skating at Mokdong ice rink
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP10 (Source), photo IDs (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROUTE INFO: Find Changdeokgung (Changdeok/Changdeokgung Palace) in Seoul?
EVIDENCE: Photo of palace in intro caps (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by subway to...
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted in subway (Source)

PIT STOP: Seoul Sang-am World Cup Stadium
EVIDENCE: Tweet suggesting Pit Stop possibly close to the Westin Chosun in Seoul (Source), Jill/Thomas running to Pit Stop in promo after EP10 (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg: UNKNOWN

Likely Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
    Brook/Claire: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)
    Nat/Kat: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)
    Jill/Thomas: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:
    Nick/Vicki: POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX





EP12: Seoul, South Korea to Los Angeles, CA (USA)

Film Date: JUNE 15
Air Date: DEC 12

Leg Route/Tasks:

ROUTE INFO: Fly to Los Angeles, CA (USA); travel by taxi to Vincent Thomas Bridge (east of LAX)
EVIDENCE: Two teams (?) spotted on flight from Seoul to Los Angeles 6/15; production seen exiting LAX around 8:00am (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3); team in taxi traveling on eastbound 105 (just east of Sepulveda) on promo after EP11 (Source)
TIMING: Taxi on highway between 10:21 and 10:44am (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Board helicopter at Vincent Thomas Bridge; travel to bungee crane task here
EVIDENCE: Overheard phone call (Source); promo after EP11 (Source); photo ID (Source 1), (Source 2)
TIMING: Brook/Claire arrive at helipad between 12:25 and 12:49pm (Source 1), (Source 2)

ROUTE INFO: Climb crane (?), bungee down here
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP11 (Source 1), (Source 2)
TIMING: Nat/Kat bungee first; Brook/Claire and Jill/Thomas at task simultaneously, but Jill/Thomas jump first; all teams possibly 5-10 minutes apart (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)

ROUTE INFO: Travel by helicopter to Rose Bowl in Pasadena
EVIDENCE: Promo, photo ID(Source)
TIMING: Nat/Kat arrive at Rose Bowl between 12:56 and 12:59pm (Source)

ROUTE INFO?/ROADBLOCK?: Float task in Rose Bowl
EVIDENCE: Local investigation (Source)

ROUTE INFO: Indoor iPad memory task en route from Pasadena to Beverly Hills?
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP11 (Source 1), (Source 2); Brook/Claire in taxi between Pasadena area and Beverly Hills area (Source)

FINISH LINE: Travel by taxi to Greystone Mansion in Beverly Hills
EVIDENCE: Promo after EP11 (Source), Photo ID (Source)

Winners: UNKNOWN
TIMING: Brook/Claire 5 minutes away from Greystone Mansion sometime after 2:18pm (Source)
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 02:36:18 PM »
TEAM SPOILER SUMMARY
Ron Kellum/Tony (Friends): African-American M/M, one thin, one heavy-set, dressed in orange (Source); last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27)
Andie DeKroon/Jenna Sykes (Catholic Birth Mom and Daughter): Dark hair, wearing red/maroon/black (Source); last spotted at Logan Airport in Boston (5/26)
Connor Diemand-Yamuan/Jonathon Schwartz (Princeton Grads): Wearing green, dark hair, in 20s-30s (Source); last sighting in Stockholm airport (6/1)
Rachel Johnston/Katie Seamon (Friends/Volleyball Players): Blonde, wearing bright green; last POSSIBLE sighting on arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)
Gary/Mallory Ervin (Father/Daughter): Gary (52) in yellow (gray hair), Mallory (24) in yellow with black jacket (Source 1)
Michael/Kevin Wu (Father/Son): Asian team wearing blue (Source); last sighting on flight to St. Petersburg (6/5), (Source 2); last sighting on flight to St Petersburg (6/5)
Stephanie Smith/Chad Waltrip (Dating): Stephanie (22) blonde hair, wearing black and Chad (25) dark hair, wearing blue/turquoise bandana (Source); last POSSIBLE sighting in Muscat airport (6/8)
Nick/Vicki (Dating): Dark hair, wearing grey/black with lots of tattoos/piercings; last spotted in customs at LHR entering England (5/27), POSSIBLE sighting in Hong Kong (6/12), likely sighting as decoys on flight to LAX (Source 1) (Source 2)
Brook Roberts/Claire Champlin (Friends): One with dark hair (Claire), one blonde (Brook) (Source); likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (6/14)
Jill/Thomas (Dating): M (dark hair) in white, F (blonde) in purple, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (6/14)
Nat/Kat (Doctors): One in blue (blonde hair), one in black (possibly Asian, dark hair), likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (6/14)
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 10:11:26 PM »
Mrs Shrek will be helping woden keep up with all this for a while...let us know if you see any mistakes!!
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 09:37:43 AM »
Agreed that we are more than likely to have a second leg in Ghana!

Teams arrive before sunrise on the morning of the 29th, which means Phil should easily be able to get on the flight leaving late that evening to Frankfurt. Instead there is an extra delay, with Phil most likely taking a flight out the evening of the 30th, and teams departing the next day on the evening of the 31st. Not going to judge on Italy just yet, but here's how it's looking right now...

Leg
Phil
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Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
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1 Jun
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 03:53:40 AM »
Brought over from TAR 16:

Haha, guess I need to do a little explanation of that table!

This table, which sets up the schedule for both the crew and the teams, allows us to predict the existence of extra legs (for example, the second leg in Shanghai this season), or the location of these legs (for example, that an extra leg in TAR 15 - Cai Be - was geographically close to Ho Chi Minh City).

The dates in the table represent the day on which most tasks take place. For Phil, this is the day he films his stand-ups. For the teams, this is the day they do the bulk of their racing. For example, if teams arrive in Puerto Varas on the night of the 29th but the majority of the challenges take place on the 30th, the table will indicate the 30th.

The schedule of the recent races (I started paying attention in TAR 14) follows a general pattern. Phil arrives one day before the teams, spends the next day checking in the teams, and sets up the next leg on the third day while teams are held back by extended Pit Stops, by transportation schedules or by hours of operation. An example in table form:

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Leg 4
1 Jan
2 Jan
-
Leg 5
3 Jan
4 Jan
-
Leg 6
5 Jan
6 Jan
-

There are several notable exceptions. The first type is what I call short legs. This is when Phil films his stand-ups on the same day the racers are doing the challenges.
TAR 14: Stechelberg to Salzburg, Phuket to Bangkok, Beijing to Beijing
TAR 15: Cai Be to Ho Chi Minh City, Dubai to Dubai, Prague to Prague

I don't dare to present a rationale, but these one thing these legs have in common is the short travel distance. And as TheSchnauzers says, they are often temporally short as well, since flights are often not involved. In TAR 16, this comes in the form of Puerto Varas to Bariloche, Hamburg to France or France to France, and Shanghai to Shanghai. In fact, the legs on which Phil films his stand-ups the same day as the teams are racing are always the shortest legs, distance-wise, in their respective seasons. Short legs, at least since TAR 14, have never been back to back. In table form:

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Leg 7
7 Jan
7 Jan
Short leg
Leg 8
8 Jan
9 Jan
-

The second group of exceptions, on contrast, involves long travel legs. Sometimes Phil spends so much time travelling to the next destination he doesn't have enough daylight to work with, and so the entire schedule is pushed back. These legs often involve long multi-leg flights.
TAR 14: Bran to Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk to Jaipur
TAR 15: None, since they stuck to major cities with good airport hubs
TAR 16: Bariloche to Hamburg, France to Seychelles, Seychelles to Penang

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Leg 9
10 Jan
11 Jan
-
Leg 10
13 Jan
14 Jan
Long leg
Here, Phil flies to his destination on the 12th, while teams travel on the 13th.

The third type of exception involves the premiere and finale legs. Premieres, if flight schedules allow, often involve an overnight rest on the first day, giving Phil some wiggle room to film his stand-ups. For example, the TAR 14 premiere had teams travel to Locarno for an overnight while Phil heads directly to Interlaken for his narration, and the TAR 15 premiere had teams stay over in the magical Green Room, giving Phil some time for filming in Tokyo. This doesn't always apply, especially if the first leg takes place in South America. TAR 9 and TAR 16, in particular, had flight schedules with morning arrivals, meaning Phil has had to hustle to get his filming done. Finales are often single-day affairs. I suppose Phil has all the times to film his stand-ups after wrapping up the race formalities.

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Leg 11
15 Jan
16 Jan
-
Leg 12
17 Jan
17 Jan
Final leg

After all that... Piecing together the dates Phil and teams are sighted along the racecourse allows us to fill in the table, allowing us to figure out where the gaps are and how long production has available for legs. Confusing, but it's worked pretty well so far!
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 11:59:11 PM »
Here are the known flights:

Boston to London, evening 26 May
AA 108, 1940-0700 (scheduled 1915-0650)
VS 12, 2002-0726 (scheduled 1945-0720)
London to Accra, evening 28 May
VS 657, 2254-0435 (scheduled 2230-0415)
Accra to Frankfurt, evening 31 May
LH 567, 2203-0638 (scheduled 2155-0630)
...
Stockholm to St Petersburg, morning 5 Jun
SK 732, 1014-1333 (scheduled 1000-1325)

The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

If so, I guess we can explain the long wait in Stockholm as one leg on the 1st, and another on the 3rd. St Petersburg would then take place on the 5th. But that also means that the two legs between the Stockholm sightings are not geographically close to each other, so that an extra day is needed for Phil to film his stand-ups. So tentatively...

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
-
Sweden II
2 Jun
3 Jun
-
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 12:08:50 AM »
Here are the known flights:

Boston to London, evening 26 May
AA 108, 1940-0700 (scheduled 1915-0650)
VS 12, 2002-0726 (scheduled 1945-0720)
London to Accra, evening 28 May
VS 657, 2254-0435 (scheduled 2230-0415)
Accra to Frankfurt, evening 31 May
LH 567, 2203-0638 (scheduled 2155-0630)
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Stockholm to St Petersburg, morning 5 Jun
SK 732, 1014-1333 (scheduled 1000-1325)

The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

If so, I guess we can explain the long wait in Stockholm as one leg on the 1st, and another on the 3rd. St Petersburg would then take place on the 5th. But that also means that the two legs in Stockholm are not geographically close to each other, so that an extra day is needed for Phil to film his stand-ups...

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
-
Sweden II
2 Jun
3 Jun
Not same geographical area as Sweden I
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
-
Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 12:17:55 AM »
Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun. So two possibilities...

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
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Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
-
Sweden I
1 Jun
2 Jun
Long leg
Sweden II
2 Jun
3 Jun
-
Sweden II
3 Jun
3 Jun
Short leg
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
-
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 12:19:01 AM »
Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun.

I somehow doubt TAR would want to revisit Stockholm. Perhaps a train ride is in order?
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 12:24:56 AM »
Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun.

I somehow doubt TAR would want to revisit Stockholm. Perhaps a train ride is in order?

That's what I think too.  They could have visited northern Sweden by train, and flew to St Petersburg via Stockholm.  Possible!?


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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 12:53:32 AM »
The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

A couple of things:

Didn't the poster say he only saw a couple of teams on 6/1. Isn't it possible that both Frankfurt and Stockholm were connections at the same time to another European city, or all of the teams were on an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-somewhere else flight? Also, because we have no actual sightings of teams in Stockholm (at least I don't think so), its possible that the 6/5 sighting was also a connection point (somewhere --> Stockholm --> St. Petersburg). I'm not doubting legs in Sweden, but with the race just visiting there two seasons ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the country wasn't visited again. Then again, if we do have solid sightings within the country besides the airport, I must've missed them and I take all this back.  :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 01:27:56 AM »
Didn't the poster say he only saw a couple of teams on 6/1. Isn't it possible that both Frankfurt and Stockholm were connections at the same time to another European city, or all of the teams were on an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-somewhere else flight? Also, because we have no actual sightings of teams in Stockholm (at least I don't think so), its possible that the 6/5 sighting was also a connection point (somewhere --> Stockholm --> St. Petersburg). I'm not doubting legs in Sweden, but with the race just visiting there two seasons ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the country wasn't visited again. Then again, if we do have solid sightings within the country besides the airport, I must've missed them and I take all this back.

Definitely possible, but there are no direct flights from Accra to Stockholm, and if teams head to Frankfurt first, they should be able to connect to most European cities without having to go through Stockholm. Baltic Europe would have been a possibility had we not received the second Stockholm sighting, but I'd tend to think Baltic cities have pretty good connections with St Petersburg without requiring teams to backtrack through Stockholm.

ETA: Ran a check to see which cities would warrant an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-[destination] itinerary, and the only two (neither of which really make sense) are Reykjavik and Tallinn.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 07:43:26 PM »
The sighting of teams at Muscat Airport looking for flights to Bangladesh on the night of 8 Jun fit in well with our itinerary. Looks like one leg each in Russia and Oman. Phil has the option of flying from St Petersburg to Muscat night of the 5th, 8.10pm to 9.30am via Moscow DME and Dubai. He can also easily get from Muscat to Dhaka night of the 7th, 12.15am to 12.00pm via Mumbai. The same options are open for teams the day after.

The spoiler map is constantly being updated in the Maps Thread.

Leg
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Teams
Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
-
Sweden II
2 Jun
3 Jun
Elsewhere?
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
-
Muscat
6 Jun
7 Jun
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Dhaka
8 Jun
9 Jun
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Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Sweden I
1 Jun
2 Jun
Long leg
Sweden II
3 Jun
3 Jun
Short leg
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 10:45:40 PM »
Oman and Bangladesh are still speculation...

although I like it!! :hearts:
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 10:51:24 PM »

Alternative Sweden dates...

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Sweden I
1 Jun
2 Jun
Long leg
Sweden II
3 Jun
3 Jun
Short leg

The FIRST Arlanda sighting of teams took place on June 1, not June 2 though. .

Exif data: photo was taken 2010-06-01 12:02:50-04:00
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 10:58:20 PM »
The FIRST Arlanda sighting of teams took place on June 1, not June 2 though. .

Exif data: photo was taken 2010-06-01 12:02:50-04:00

Understood. We're just not eliminating the possibility that teams travelled onwards by train or bus from Stockholm to put them in the actual destination city after dark, and having the majority of tasks taking place on 2 Jun. There's not enough evidence now to call it either way, though.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 11:07:01 PM »
Oh okay gotcha. I thought you meant arrival. My spec is that they go on to somewhere too....as in not Stockholm.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 12:51:58 AM »
Can someone help put this together please? Try the Timeline thread if you want....

Apparently there is going to be filming of the Korean episode at 4PM TODAY!!

Where can you get the information they are in Korea at 4PM today?
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2010, 12:12:28 AM »
I interpreted the Indonesian translation wrongly. Timeline has been fixed and I'm confident in it.

Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
-
Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
-
Sweden II
2 Jun
3 Jun
Elsewhere?
St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
-
Muscat
7 Jun
8 Jun
Long leg
Dhaka
9 Jun
10 Jun
-
Hong Kong
11 Jun
12 Jun
-
South Korea
13 Jun
14 Jun
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Leg
Phil
Teams
Comments
Sweden I
1 Jun
2 Jun
Long leg
Sweden II
3 Jun
3 Jun
Short leg
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2010, 07:53:31 AM »
Can someone help put this together please? Try the Timeline thread if you want....

Apparently there is going to be filming of the Korean episode at 4PM TODAY!!

Where can you get the information they are in Korea at 4PM today?

That turned out to be Phil's stand ups, not teams.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2010, 05:41:16 PM »
Only 11 legs? I have a feeling there's a missing leg somewhere in the early/middle part of that timeline.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2010, 07:55:52 PM »
Adding this:


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A 13-episode season of The Amazing Race is shot over 25 days. Filming might start at dawn and last all day until contestants and crew are on a plane to the next destination. They catch as much aerial sleep as they can, only to begin again at touchdown.

"This last season [his 17th], we did six days in a row and never even saw a hotel."


http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/4001098/The-amazing-pace
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2010, 12:22:16 AM »
Adding this:


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A 13-episode season of The Amazing Race is shot over 25 days. Filming might start at dawn and last all day until contestants and crew are on a plane to the next destination. They catch as much aerial sleep as they can, only to begin again at touchdown.

"This last season [his 17th], we did six days in a row and never even saw a hotel."


http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/4001098/The-amazing-pace

Is the season 17 gonna be a 13-episode season??? :partie:  :colors
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2010, 12:29:37 AM »
Read the article..that is NOT what it says. :groan:
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2010, 12:36:07 AM »
Oh.... :lolmao:
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2010, 04:18:05 AM »
I got confused too. :lol3:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2010, 07:54:30 AM »
Sorry...

The way I read it, they were just describing how long a show might take.

What was interesting was the six days without a hotel....that might be handy to figure out Phil's moves.... my guess right now would be the start line to Sweden.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2010, 07:38:19 PM »
It could still imply that this season is 13 episodes, though. But not likely.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2010, 11:16:16 PM »
I'd say twelve legs is the best bet, and thirteen legs not very possible.

Let's first assume that teams headed directly from Bangladesh to Hong Kong. The first option of the day on the 12th fits in pretty nicely with the 2.45pm sighting:
5Z 101 from Dhaka to Bangkok, 0630-0930
TG 628 to Hong Kong, 1040-1430

According to the Muscat Airport spoiler, teams would have arrived in Dhaka on the 9th. That gives just a little too much time for them to be stuck in Dhaka until the morning of the 12th, but not enough for a leg in another country between Bangladesh and Hong Kong. May I propose the below, which gives us our twelve legs for the race?

Leg
Phil
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England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Ghana I
28 May
29 May
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Ghana II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden I
31 May
1 Jun
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2 Jun
3 Jun
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St Petersburg
4 Jun
5 Jun
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6 Jun
7 Jun
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8 Jun
9 Jun
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Bangladesh II
10 Jun
10 Jun
Short leg
Hong Kong
11 Jun
12 Jun
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South Korea
13 Jun
14 Jun
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Los Angeles
15 Jun
15 Jun
Final leg

No long legs in there, which means there isn't enough space to squeeze in an extra thirteenth leg unless there's a TBC somewhere.

Oh, Caelestor says there are eight countries in the Destinations thread; has this been confirmed by the press releases? Just trying to firm up that Sweden II is indeed so.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2010, 11:20:02 PM »
press release: :lol:


This season's cast of Racers will travel over 32,000 miles, covering four continents and 30 cities, with first-time visits to Bangladesh, Ghana and the Arctic Circle.  Additionally, for the first time in the history of the Race, the Team to finish in first place during the premiere episode will be awarded a surprise, game-changing advantage.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2010, 11:22:03 PM »
Thanks Peach! If eight countries hasn't been confirmed yet, I'll just leave open the possibility for Sweden II to be Norway or something...

Currently at 26217 miles, but you know how unreliable their mileages are, even after we calculate them at the end of the season...
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2010, 11:27:32 PM »
I just love the 30 cities! :res:
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2010, 12:42:30 AM »
Heh, CBS has been pretty liberal with the "cities" bit. Here's what they've given us in the past, not too bad in TAR 6 with 24 cities, but completely ridiculous in TAR 8, in which you have to consider places like Monument Valley and the Bonneville Salt Flats to be cities to rack the count up to 50...

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TAR 8 (50 cities): New York City, Washington Crossing, Philadelphia, Mount Joy, Lancaster, York, Washington DC, Middleburg (pop 600), Charleston, Huntsville, Anniston, Talladega, Hattiesburg, Richland, Madisonville (700), New Orleans, Panama City, Gamboa (very few), San Jose, San Pedro de Poas, Alajuela, Jaco, Quepos, Grecia, Phoenix, Chandler, Fountain Hills, Mesa, Grand Canyon Village, Page, Monument Valley, Moab, Green River (900), Heber City, Park City, Salt Lake City, Bonneville Salt Flats, Garden City (500), Big Piney (400), West Yellowstone, Jackson, Dubois, Cody, Red Lodge, Absarokee, Billings, Montreal, Toronto, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Lewiston
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2010, 02:06:35 AM »
press release: :lol:


This season's cast of Racers will travel over 32,000 miles, covering four continents and 30 cities, with first-time visits to Bangladesh, Ghana and the Arctic Circle.  Additionally, for the first time in the history of the Race, the Team to finish in first place during the premiere episode will be awarded a surprise, game-changing advantage.

Are they referring to the Express Pass?

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2010, 08:04:13 PM »
Phil Keoghan: Lots of press interest in the new Amazing Race cast announced, some fantastic characters this season and a big surprise for all of them at the starting line on September 26th!

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2010, 08:08:28 PM »
At least we know that the surprise is not a Elimination at the Starting Line. :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2010, 08:19:03 PM »
new promo suggests a task..stay tuned!
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2010, 10:25:08 PM »
Hi, I'd like to analyze the timeline. Legs 1-3 appear solid, so I'll start with Leg 4.

Leg 4: Teams will be in transit for most of 6/1, and they arrive in Kiruna pretty late...so I will propose that teams race on 6/2 after an overnight rest. Normal pitstop.

Leg 5: Teams race on 6/3. (I'm going to assume they stay in Kiruna.) Extended pitstop.

Leg 6: Takes place on 6/5. Teams will take DY3766 to Arlanda at 9:00, in time for the 10:00 flight to St. Petersburg. Normal pitstop.

Leg 7: Teams are in transit on 6/6 and race in Oman on 6/7. 24-hour pitstop.

Leg 8: Teams race through Dhaka on 6/9. Regular pitstop.

Leg 9: Teams race in Bangladesh on 6/10. Regular pitstop.

Leg 10: Teams race in HK on 6/12. 24-hour pitstop.

Leg 11: S. Korea, 6/14. Regular pitstop.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2010, 12:16:52 AM »
Thanks Caelestor, I'd agree for the most part! But just two minor notes that might just come in useful later on:

If teams fly in from Frankfurt to Kiruna and take the most conservative connection options, they'd still arrive in Kiruna by 2.40pm, with plenty of time before nightfall in... about a month and a half's time. (No overnight rest then, eh? :lol:) I'm thinking the leg takes place on the afternoon of the 1st, and the next leg takes them away from Kiruna for a race on the 3rd.

I don't think any of the Pit Stops can be considered regular or 24-hour anymore; teams are simply released to get on the planes that production wants them to get on, so set times wouldn't play too big a part in working out their schedules...
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2010, 04:30:29 PM »
FYI, I have added a new category to the Safe From Elimination/Possibly Eliminated categories in the timeline (Post 1 in this thread). There is now a "Status Uncertain" category which means we have teams for which we have future "sightings" (e.g. Stephanie/Chad, Nick/Vicki) that at this point still need to be corroborated by more sources or photos.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2010, 04:19:54 PM »
For the leg 1 summary, Katie & Rachel are listed in the "Status Uncertain" section. Shouldn't they be in the "Safe From Elimination at the End of Leg" section as they were photographed en route to Ghana?

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2010, 05:28:16 PM »
Yes, good pickup, thank you!
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2010, 11:08:48 AM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

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« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2010, 06:41:54 AM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

LOL yeah! I thought they'd be the first few teams gone. And I wonder if I saw it wrongly, but I actually thought that Connor and Jonathan would go really far, maybe fourth place. Now I'm thinking, maybe I interpreted or saw the spoilers wrongly lol. Now it looks like Connor and Jonathan are gone early? :(
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2010, 09:06:55 AM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

Maybe they got lost on the way to ES.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2010, 11:23:11 AM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

Maybe they got lost on the way to ES.
Since they raced alone,they maybe decoyed.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2010, 05:46:21 PM »
Can anyone tell me if Brook & Claire are one of the three teams in the finale????

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2010, 06:26:00 PM »
Welcome!

All the teams possible standings info is in the first post of this thread....enjoy!
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2010, 10:49:40 AM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

LOL yeah! I thought they'd be the first few teams gone. And I wonder if I saw it wrongly, but I actually thought that Connor and Jonathan would go really far, maybe fourth place. Now I'm thinking, maybe I interpreted or saw the spoilers wrongly lol. Now it looks like Connor and Jonathan are gone early? :(

And then you don't like them anymore! How could you, Ruth! :hearts:

Just kidding! But i think the final 3 teams are definitely Nat and Kat, Brooke and Claire and Jill and Thomas.. who incidentally would have been the 3 teams to come in top 3 for the first leg if Connor and Jonathan had not finished seconds before Brooke and Claire. :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2010, 12:35:08 PM »
Okay, i just read this and i figured out if Nick and Vicki were indeed spotted in Hong Kong.. i wonder how did they do it. :tup:

Maybe they got lost on the way to ES.
Since they raced alone,they maybe decoyed.
I agree with weihen, although I would use the word probably instead of maybe. Any teams eliminated in the first 5 or 6 teams  do not go to Elimination Station, probably because they are in Asia for a west-to-east race and they are needed at times for decoy duty.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2010, 04:59:34 AM »
Question for woden or MsShrek.....

Are you going to edit the previous episodes segments to correct the tasks. ie, the wheelbarrow task was a route info task and the detour was language arts/bicycle parts....?

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2010, 08:47:06 PM »
In the past, I've left it as an "archive" of the information we had going into the episode -- Wikipedia and other sources have the official version of what happened each leg.  :tup:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2010, 08:13:44 AM »
It makes close to zero sense for anyone to transit from St Petersburg to Bangladesh via Oman, so I'm thinking Bangladesh is one leg. Have to spend some time looking at the schedule, I think there may have been a mistranslation from the Oman spoiler with regards to date, did we ever get a definite date for that from the airport staff?
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2010, 09:12:30 AM »
I have a theory as to why the teams are in Muscat for a very short time. On June 4 cyclone Phet hit Oman, killing 2 people and effecting oil and gas production. Winds near 120kph and heavy rains in Muscat.

This occurred while the teams were in Norway.

If you look at the photos in flickr for the date, you can see that there was quite a bit of flooding in Muscat. School exams were canceled for the whole week.
I speculate that there may have been some damage done to some of the infrastructure that would be needed for TAR to hold a complete leg there so TPTB had to do some rescheduling. So in one episode we get travel from St.Petersburg, maybe a single task in Muscat city, then travel to Bangladesh.
This is just speculation - trying to explain the weirdness of the sightings of teams in Muscat.
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2010, 09:38:16 AM »
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2010, 10:05:40 AM »
I have a theory as to why the teams are in Muscat for a very short time. On June 4 cyclone Phet hit Oman, killing 2 people and effecting oil and gas production. Winds near 120kph and heavy rains in Muscat.

This occurred while the teams were in Norway.

If you look at the photos in flickr for the date, you can see that there was quite a bit of flooding in Muscat. School exams were canceled for the whole week.
I speculate that there may have been some damage done to some of the infrastructure that would be needed for TAR to hold a complete leg there so TPTB had to do some rescheduling. So in one episode we get travel from St.Petersburg, maybe a single task in Muscat city, then travel to Bangladesh.
This is just speculation - trying to explain the weirdness of the sightings of teams in Muscat.

It's a good theory, walkingpneumonia, but Phet was not that strong a tropical cyclone when it actually reached Oman. It was stronger before landfall and after leaving Oman on the way to Pakistan. Here is the AccuWeather summary for Oman during Phet:

Phet slammed into Oman Thursday evening. Soon after landfall, the strength of the storm's maximum sustained winds were equivalent to a Category 2 hurricane. Phet's intensity matched a Category 4 hurricane as recently as early Thursday morning. The interaction with land is what caused Phet to weaken early Friday morning, but it remained a potent storm. The storm dumped nearly 6 inches of rain in 24 hours, ending Friday morning EDT, on Ras al Hadd, Oman.

Digital Journal reported this on Friday June 4:

NASA's Terra satellite have captured infrared and visible images of Tropical Cyclone Phet today that showed the lack of an eye, indicating that the storm had weakened after making landfall in Oman...  When Phet made landfall in Oman on June 3, it caused landslides and floods in the eastern part of the country. After landfall Phet weakened and continued heading in a northeasterly direction up Oman's coast and back into the Arabian Sea. No casualties have been reported. Tropical Cyclone Phet's maximum sustained winds were down to 65 knots (74 mph) making it a Category One cyclone on the Saffir-Simpson Scale. That's down from the Category Four cyclone it was before it made landfall yesterday. Phet is now 65 miles southeast of Musqat, Oman, near 22.9 North and 59.5 East. It's moving north-northeast near 6 knots (7 mph). Tropical Storm-force winds extend out to 115 miles from the center, so the storm has grown in size since it made landfall. It's now 230 miles in diameter.

That means that there was severe rain, but wind damage may not have been as severe as needed to seriously disrupt the Amazing Race visit for 2.5 to 3 days later .



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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2010, 10:16:25 AM »
Those of us that live in hurricane country know its always the water from the storm surge and rain that lasts long time after the storm....it just doesn't drain away in 2-3 days.

I remember in TAR9 that they had to fjord several low water crossings when they were there........those would be deep water crossings after a hurricane.....lol
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2010, 10:48:56 AM »
Those of us that live in hurricane country know its always the water from the storm surge and rain that lasts long time after the storm....it just doesn't drain away in 2-3 days.


Very true.  Fay in 2008 never reached hurricane strength - just a tropical storm, if I remember right.  But there were lots of low areas in Florida that were flooded, some up to thigh high.  It was so wet that even just "swampy" areas had ankle deep water for weeks not the usual soft/wet ground.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2010, 04:54:29 PM »
An alternate source for discussion of Tropical Cyclone Phat is the blog by Dr. Jeff Masters, who founded Weather Underground (a frequent TAR detective information source, no?). Here's the link to his entries for the month of June; the entries are in reverse chronological order (more recent on top), so you'll have to scroll down to get to June 4th, 3rd, and 2nd, where the storm is discussed. (link)  And he posted satellite photos of the record-setting cyclone.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2010, 10:07:39 PM »
Regarding Nick and Vicky's placement:  In an post-elimination interview quoted below, Katie mentions that she and Rachel didn't get a chance to talk to Nick very much.  I think this may be a good indication that Nick and Vicky never get to Elimination Station, and are at the very least decoys in the final legs. 

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-katie-seamon-and-rachel-johnston-talk-the-amazing-race-11652.php

Reality TV World: What did you two think of Nick in general?  He seems to put up a confident front but it seems like Vicki is actually the tough one on that team. [This week] he let her do the rappelling, and then he also seemed to struggle with the bike ride after talking up his BMX experience.

Katie Seamon: We didn't really get to talk to him too much but they seemed like good people and Nick seemed like just a pretty chill guy. I understand the anger and getting mad, and Katie and I are the first ones to get frustrated to lash out at each other, so I mean I think it's just being competitive

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2010, 10:06:55 AM »
Regarding Nick and Vicky's placement:  In an post-elimination interview quoted below, Katie mentions that she and Rachel didn't get a chance to talk to Nick very much.  I think this may be a good indication that Nick and Vicky never get to Elimination Station, and are at the very least decoys in the final legs.  

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-katie-seamon-and-rachel-johnston-talk-the-amazing-race-11652.php

Reality TV World: What did you two think of Nick in general?  He seems to put up a confident front but it seems like Vicki is actually the tough one on that team. [This week] he let her do the rappelling, and then he also seemed to struggle with the bike ride after talking up his BMX experience.

Katie Seamon: We didn't really get to talk to him too much but they seemed like good people and Nick seemed like just a pretty chill guy. I understand the anger and getting mad, and Katie and I are the first ones to get frustrated to lash out at each other, so I mean I think it's just being competitive

Well, I correctly concluded that Nick & Vicky would make at least the Final 5, so this is proof of that.  If we can find out who they talked to a lot, we can find out who else got to Elimination Station.

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« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2010, 04:41:14 PM »
Regarding Nick and Vicky's placement:  In an post-elimination interview quoted below, Katie mentions that she and Rachel didn't get a chance to talk to Nick very much.  I think this may be a good indication that Nick and Vicky never get to Elimination Station, and are at the very least decoys in the final legs. 

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-katie-seamon-and-rachel-johnston-talk-the-amazing-race-11652.php

Reality TV World: What did you two think of Nick in general?  He seems to put up a confident front but it seems like Vicki is actually the tough one on that team. [This week] he let her do the rappelling, and then he also seemed to struggle with the bike ride after talking up his BMX experience.

Katie Seamon: We didn't really get to talk to him too much but they seemed like good people and Nick seemed like just a pretty chill guy. I understand the anger and getting mad, and Katie and I are the first ones to get frustrated to lash out at each other, so I mean I think it's just being competitive

Well, I correctly condluded that Nick & Vicky would make at least the Final 5, so this is proof of that.  If we can find out who they talked to a lot, we can find out who else got to Elimination Station.

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Never know.  They might very well be the F4 elimination.  It's a question of who between them and Chad & Stephanie is getting that edit.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2010, 06:18:27 PM »
Regarding Nick and Vicky's placement:  In an post-elimination interview quoted below, Katie mentions that she and Rachel didn't get a chance to talk to Nick very much.  I think this may be a good indication that Nick and Vicky never get to Elimination Station, and are at the very least decoys in the final legs. 

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-katie-seamon-and-rachel-johnston-talk-the-amazing-race-11652.php

Reality TV World: What did you two think of Nick in general?  He seems to put up a confident front but it seems like Vicki is actually the tough one on that team. [This week] he let her do the rappelling, and then he also seemed to struggle with the bike ride after talking up his BMX experience.

Katie Seamon: We didn't really get to talk to him too much but they seemed like good people and Nick seemed like just a pretty chill guy. I understand the anger and getting mad, and Katie and I are the first ones to get frustrated to lash out at each other, so I mean I think it's just being competitive

Well, I correctly condluded that Nick & Vicky would make at least the Final 5, so this is proof of that.  If we can find out who they talked to a lot, we can find out who else got to Elimination Station.

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Never know.  They might very well be the F4 elimination.  It's a question of who between them and Chad & Stephanie is getting that edit.

I said at least Final 5.  Personally, I think they made the Final 4 but I'm not sure if Hong Kong is a NEL or not.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2010, 08:22:27 PM »
Sorry for the confusion. Fixed, misled by translation error. Teams must have been leaving Oman night of 9 Jun.

Leg
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England
27 May
27 May
First leg
Accra I
28 May
29 May
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Accra II
30 May
30 May
Short leg
Sweden
31 May
1 Jun
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Norway
2 Jun
2 Jun
Short leg
St Petersburg I
4 Jun
5 Jun
Long leg
St Petersburg II
6 Jun
6 Jun
Short leg
Muscat
7 Jun
8 Jun
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Dhaka
9 Jun
10 Jun
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Hong Kong
11 Jun
12 Jun
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South Korea
13 Jun
14 Jun
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« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2010, 08:31:30 PM »
Yeah we have that in the Timeline.
sighting of teams in Muscat Airport on evening of June 9 looking for flights to Bangladesh

But can you help with extended Pitstops in here? I would like to sort this out if possible!!
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2010, 02:19:36 AM »
The term "Extended Pit Stops" needs to be redefined; not a single one of the Pit Stops so far has been shorter than 15h. If we're talking about teams being held back an extra day for Phil to travel, though, we've already seen the only one on this race: Narvik (~36h). Otherwise, teams checking in to any Pit Stop from now on can expect to check in to the next one within two calendar days.

A couple of things I noticed upon rewatching, not sure if they've been asked or answered while I was away:
1. The Virgin flight was supposed to arrive in Accra at 4.35am, but the flight is shown landing and the teams running out of the airport in broad daylight. All teams check in before 11.30am, though. What's up with this?
2. Teams checking into Asebi were told they would return to the school the next day, but the timeline has them departing the same day they paint the school (31 May), and Jonathan/Connor leaving at 10.15am. Some teams managed to change clothes between painting and departing the Pit Stop. Is this possible?
3. On that note, teams did not check out from the home of Awusa Ntso. I'm thinking the Pit Stop hotel, La Palm Royal Beach Hotel. Can someone confirm?

Here's what I have so far:

26 MAY WED
Eastern Point Yacht Club, Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA
Car to Logan Intl Airport, Boston, Massachusetts
Ron/Tony, Jill/Thomas, Chad/Stephanie
  AA 108 (1940-0700) to Heathrow Intl Airport, London, UK
Katie/Rachel, Gary/Mallory, Brooke/Claire, Nat/Kat, Michael/Kevin, Nat/Vicki, Andie/Jenna, Connor/Jonathan
  VS 12 (2002-0726) to Heathrow Intl Airport

27 MAY THR
Car to Stonehenge, Amesbury, Wiltshire, UK
Car to Eastnor Castle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, UK
Boat at Eastnor Castle
Pit Stop at Eastnor Castle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, UK (~22h)

28 MAY FRI
Pit Start (1155-1345) at Eastnor Castle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, UK
Car to Heathrow Intl Airport, London, UK
VS 657 (2254-0435) to Kotoka Intl Airport, Accra, Ghana

29 MAY SAT
Taxi to Kwame Nkrumah Memorial Park, Accra
Taxi to Makola Market, Accra
Taxi to Jun 4 Area, Accra
Taxi to Kaneshie Market, Accra
Pit Stop at Kaneshie Market, Accra, Ghana (~22h)

30 MAY SUN
Pit Start (0734-0806) at Kaneshie Market, Accra, Ghana
Taxi to Akotokou Boxing Academy, Accra
Taxi to supply depot, Asebi, Dodowa, Accra
Walk to Asebi D/A Primary School, Asebi
Walk to home of Awusa Ntso, Asebi
Pit Stop at home of Awusa Ntso, Asebi, Dodowa, Accra, Ghana (~23h)

31 MAY MON
Pit Start (1015-1326) at La Palm Royal Beach Hotel, Accra, Ghana
LH 567 (2203-0638) to Frankfurt Intl Airport, Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany

1 JUN TUE
Gary/Mallory, Kevin/Michael, Nat/Kat, Brooke/Claire
  LH 3000 (0747-0945) to Arlanda Intl Airport, Stockholm, Sweden
  SK 1042 (1107-1231) to Kiruna Airport, Kiruna, Lapland, Sweden
Connor/Jonathan, Chad/Stephanie, Katie/Rachel, Nick/Vicki, Jill/Thomas
  LH 3002 (0955-1151) to Arlanda Intl Airport, Stockholm, Sweden
  SK 1044 (1325-1445) to Kiruna Airport, Kiruna, Lapland, Sweden
Car to Ice Hotel, Kiruna
Car to Vakkara Wilderness Lodge, Vakkara, Lapland
Michael, Mallory, Claire, Kat, Connor, Nick, Katie, Stephanie, Jill
  Dog sled at Vakkara Wilderness Lodge
Car to Vassijaure Train Station, Vassijaure, Lapland
Nat/Kat, Gary/Mallory, Brooke/Claire, Connor/Jonathan, Chad/Stephanie, Katie/Rachel, Nick/Vicki
  Car to Riksgransen Ski Resort, Riksgransen, Lapland
  Ski lift at Riksgransen Ski Resort
  Techsled at Riksgransen Ski Resort
Michael/Kevin, Jill/Thomas, Chad/Stephanie, Katie/Rachel, Connor/Jonathan
  Car to Riksgransen Lake, Riksgransen, Lapland
Car to Swedish/Norwegian border, Riksgransen
Pit Stop at Swedish/Norwegian border, Riksgransen, Lapland, Sweden (~15h)

2 JUN WED
Pit Start (0600-0834) at Swedish/Norwegian border, Riksgransen, Lapland, Sweden
Car to Lower Station, Narvikfjellet, Narvik, Nordland, Norway
Gondola to Upper Station, Narvikfjellet
Gondola to Lower Station, Narvikfjellet
Nat/Kat, Nick/Vicki
  Car to Vidrek, Nordland
Car to Skjombrua Bridge, Nordland
Car to Harvika, Nordland
Michael/Kevin, Brooke/Claire, Chad/Stephanie, Katie/Rachel
  Boat at Harvika
Jill/Thomas, Gary/Mallory, Nick/Vicki
  Bicycle at Harvika
Car to Ankenes Marina, Ankenes, Nordland
Pit Stop at Ankenes Marina, Ankenes, Nordland, Norway (~36h)

3 JUN THR
Pit Start (2026-) at Ankenes Marina, Ankenes, Nordland, Norway
Car to Narvik Station, Narvik, Nordland

4 JUN FRI
IC 95 (1026-1653) to Boden Station, Norrbotten, Sweden
IN 91 (1736-0831) to Uppsala Station, Uppsala, Sweden

5 JUN SAT
Taxi to Arlanda Intl Airport, Stockholm, Sweden
SK 732 (1014-1333) to Pulkovo Intl Airport, St Petersburg, Russia
Taxi to Rostral Columns, St Petersburg
Chad/Stephanie, Gary/Mallory, Nat/Kat, Nick/Vicki
  Taxi to Beloselsky-Belozersky Palace, St Petersburg
Michael/Kevin, Jill/Thomas, Brooke/Claire, Gary/Mallory, Nat/Kat, Nick/Vicki
  Taxi to Lenfilm Studio
Nick/Vicki
  Taxi to Beloselsky-Belozersky Palace, St Petersburg
Taxi to Palace Square, St Petersburg
Taxi to Aleksandrovskaya, St Petersburg
Taxi to St Isaac's Cathedral, St Petersburg
Pit Stop at St Isaac's Cathedral, St Petersburg, Russia
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2010, 02:32:18 AM »
To clarify the Ghana timeline:
28 May: Sighting has teams leaving London.
29 May: Teams arrive in Ghana and check in at Kaneshie Market.
30 May: Brooke/Claire check out at 7.34am. Teams check in at Asebi.
31 May: Teams paint the house. This is also the date on Jonathan/Connor's tickets leaving Ghana.

Is it possible for teams to paint the house in an hour, get shuttled back to the hotel to clean up and change, then have Jonathan/Connor depart at 10.15am?
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2010, 07:22:06 AM »
The term "Extended Pit Stops" needs to be redefined; not a single one of the Pit Stops so far has been shorter than 15h. If we're talking about teams being held back an extra day for Phil to travel, though, we've already seen the only one on this race: Narvik (~36h).

1. The Virgin flight was supposed to arrive in Accra at 4.35am, but the flight is shown landing and the teams running out of the airport in broad daylight. All teams check in before 11.30am, though. What's up with this?...

Pit Stop at Ankenes Marina, Ankenes, Nordland, Norway (~36h)

On the first note above, World Race Productions frequently use the same departing or  arriving airline in their supporting camera shots, but there is no law that they must use video of the ACTUAL flights. It is clear to me that they just used a flight on another day and in daylight.

On the second point, there is no other possible explanation than a 36 hours pit stop.

I have my own observation to add to the mix:
The taxis teams took were not from Stockholm to Arlanda; I believe they were from Uppsala train station to Arlanda. That avoids a brief 12 connect  time for the train at Uppsala when the remaining time on a regional train was just 18 minutes.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2010, 07:26:12 AM »
To clarify the Ghana timeline:
28 May: Sighting has teams leaving London.
29 May: Teams arrive in Ghana and check in at Kaneshie Market.
30 May: Brooke/Claire check out at 7.34am. Teams check in at Asebi.
31 May: Teams paint the house. This is also the date on Jonathan/Connor's tickets leaving Ghana.

Is it possible for teams to paint the house in an hour, get shuttled back to the hotel to clean up and change, then have Jonathan/Connor depart at 10.15am?

Neobie,

You have the wrong departure time for LH567, the only nonstop flight from Accra to Frankfurt and clearly the flght used because it arrives around 640am in Frankfurt and that created the rationale for why most of the teams cannot book the flight from Frankfurt on to Arlanda.   It departs at 10pm, not 10am and yes, it is quite easy for teams to wait until after 6pm and make that flight.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2010, 07:50:51 AM »
Neobie,

I have been noticing the same things that you are. I think that production is playing pretty fast and loose with the stated departure times on the telecasts.

Btw.....you may want to edit above.....its the Swedish/NORWEIGAN border....not the Finnish border.

Production either told teams to get off at Uppsala and take taxis or they all found out on the train ride. Since there was only that one flight on Saturday......my guess is that it was Production's instructions.

I could see Production filming the Accra departure times, when the teams are painting the school. Then taking them back to the hotel to get ready for flight and sending off from the hotel on some kind of staggered start then. Jonathan and Connor obviously arrived at the airport before the 430 pm opening of the Lufthanza office, but I really dont think they were let go from the pit stop at 10:15 am. It just doesnt seem to give them enough time to paint the school, even if they hauled them out there at sunup.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2010, 09:16:05 AM »
Neobie,

I have been noticing the same things that you are. I think that production is playing pretty fast and loose with the stated departure times on the telecasts.

Btw.....you may want to edit above.....its the Swedish/NORWEIGAN border....not the Finnish border.

Production either told teams to get off at Uppsala and take taxis or they all found out on the train ride. Since there was only that one flight on Saturday......my guess is that it was Production's instructions.

I could see Production filming the Accra departure times, when the teams are painting the school. Then taking them back to the hotel to get ready for flight and sending off from the hotel on some kind of staggered start then. Jonathan and Connor obviously arrived at the airport before the 430 pm opening of the Lufthanza office, but I really dont think they were let go from the pit stop at 10:15 am. It just doesnt seem to give them enough time to paint the school, even if they hauled them out there at sunup.

From the EXIF data on the CBS photos - I have them painting the school from about 07:30 to 09:00 local time on May 31.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2010, 09:18:41 AM »
Thanks guys for your insights!

Apskip, I'm not referring to what time the flights teams took out of Ghana, but that the show told us that Jonathan/Connor left the Asebi Pit Stop at 10.15am. This is strange because sunrise is just a couple of hours before, and they must have painted the school between sunrise and departure. A 36h Pit Stop is impossible because we are very sure teams arrived in Ghana on the morning of 29 May (spoiler) and departed on the evening of 31 May (shot of tickets). Like DrRox, I'm feeling that the departure timings we were given at the beginning of Episode 4 were wrong.

The departure shots from "Asebi" in Episode 4, however, are definitely not from anywhere near the school - there's too much traffic and infrastructure to be out there in the wilderness.

Yes, we have noted that teams got off at Uppsala in the Episode Thread. (This is also reflected in the long timeline posted.) Good independent observation anyway!

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2010, 09:41:51 AM »
Hey guys, do you think the teams stayed in two different locations for the two Pit Stops in Ghana? Compare the background in the two confessional areas for the two legs: Ghana II with a cage and Ghana I with the ocean (La Palm Royal)... In Episode 4 Jonathan/Connor depart from in front of the cage, and a lion statue.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2010, 03:34:58 PM »
Found the Leg 3 Pit Stop hotel: Marina Hotel in Dodowa. Which makes the 10.15am release for Connor/Jonathan plausible.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2010, 05:03:11 PM »
Wow, that is GOOD!! :yess:
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2010, 07:37:16 PM »
From what the schnauzers discovered in that press release the final will be on Dec. 12. That backs up woden's timeline speculation.
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« Reply #76 on: November 07, 2010, 06:18:36 AM »
Reposting this here as well:

Okay Houston...we have a problem.

I have been attempting to follow up with all our remaining spoiler sources.

The sighting of Chad/Stephanie in Oman can no longer be considered valid.

I resent the source some photos (at the time of the first contact we had only airport photos for comparison).

HE HAS KINDLY JUST REPLIED THAT HE MET JILL AND THOMAS.

This puts Chad and Stephanie back in the "not seen after" file and puts them AT RISK FOR ELIMINATION THIS WEEK BASED ON SIGHTINGS.

Sorry for any confusion...this does happen, sources do their best based on the info we have at the time, just glad we can reevaluate.

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2010, 06:49:18 AM »
Reposting this here as well:

Okay Houston...we have a problem.

I have been attempting to follow up with all our remaining spoiler sources.

The sighting of Chad/Stephanie in Oman can no longer be considered valid.

I resent the source some photos (at the time of the first contact we had only airport photos for comparison).

HE HAS KINDLY JUST REPLIED THAT HE MET JILL AND THOMAS.

This puts Chad and Stephanie back in the "not seen after" file and puts them AT RISK FOR ELIMINATION THIS WEEK BASED ON SIGHTINGS.

Sorry for any confusion...this does happen, sources do their best based on the info we have at the time, just glad we can reevaluate.

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AHA, I suspected this all along. It made more sense to me for C/S to be eliminated this week because Stephanie does the RB and I could not figure out how Gary was going to mess it up.
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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #78 on: November 11, 2010, 08:23:35 PM »
Sorry the timeline has been behind this week -- just got blindsided by work.  :umn:

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Re: The Amazing Race 17 TIMELINE/Spoiler Summary Thread
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2010, 08:52:17 AM »
Sorry the timeline has been behind this week -- just got blindsided by work.  

From caps 17 and 18 and their accompanying audio I think we established that Chad performs the RB if you would like to add that.
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« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2010, 09:26:50 AM »
Blah blah
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« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2010, 09:35:31 AM »
nvm
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« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2010, 07:38:32 PM »
Sorry the timeline has been behind this week -- just got blindsided by work.  

From caps 17 and 18 and their accompanying audio I think we established that Chad performs the RB if you would like to add that.

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