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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #775 on: November 18, 2010, 03:20:41 PM »
Where would you take a helicopter ride from L.A. out to....?  [These sound the most credible.]

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We also are highly trained in aerial photography and video work for film and television. If you need a helicopter for a background scene or any sort of advertising or promotional campaign, look no further than Elite Helicopter Tours

http://www.elitehelicoptertours.com/  (Out of Van Nuys)


They also do custom jobs.
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There is also this company which does charter flights to Big Bear and Palm Springs (to name a few)...

http://www.lahelicopters.com/flight-services-charter.html  (Out of Long Beach)

And this one, out of Hawthorne (just down the road from LAX)

http://www.lahelicopters.com/flight-services-charter.html
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« Reply #776 on: November 18, 2010, 03:53:46 PM »
First, I think you need to know WHY they took helicopters............they never have before when coming back to the US mainland.
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« Reply #777 on: November 18, 2010, 04:36:36 PM »
First, I think you need to know WHY they took helicopters............they never have before when coming back to the US mainland.

LA is a huge, urbanized area with plenty of traffic to delay a team unfairly. (It's a great place to start a leg, since there are no tasks except getting to the airport.) Theoretically, they would rent the helicopters to get the teams on an even playing field instead of relying on taxi and traffic luck, and to get them out of the metropolis itself for a wider array of tasks (like the zipline fun and woodsy detours in TAR 13). Even though I've never been nor lived in SoCal, I'd think it would be logistically difficult to get a proper race course set up in the LA urban area because it's so spread out. Other seasons seemed to have a more concentrated course for the final tasks.

We've never had them finish in the LA area, either.

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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #778 on: November 18, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »
First, I think you need to know WHY they took helicopters............they never have before when coming back to the US mainland.

LA is a huge, urbanized area with plenty of traffic to delay a team unfairly. (It's a great place to start a leg, since there are no tasks except getting to the airport.) Theoretically, they would rent the helicopters to get the teams on an even playing field instead of relying on taxi and traffic luck, and to get them out of the metropolis itself for a wider array of tasks (like the zipline fun and woodsy detours in TAR 13). Even though I've never been nor lived in SoCal, I'd think it would be logistically difficult to get a proper race course set up in the LA urban area because it's so spread out. Other seasons seemed to have a more concentrated course for the final tasks.

We've never had them finish in the LA area, either.

Well I certainly think that too....but also to get away from our "Airport Man"......lol  Maybe it worked and maybe it didnt........somehow I dont think it did!!!
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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #779 on: November 18, 2010, 05:03:18 PM »
Talking about the LA airport reminded me of the last trip we took there. Even though my husband lived in the outskirts of LA for years, after landing we got in the rental, drove out of the airport and were immediately lost and in a really bad area. I wouldn't think letting the racers drive themselves to a location would be a good idea.   :umn:

If we knew they flew into Ontario that would be different.
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« Reply #780 on: November 18, 2010, 05:06:55 PM »
Well I certainly think that too....but also to get away from our "Airport Man"......lol 

I totally forgot about him lol.

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« Reply #781 on: November 18, 2010, 05:43:12 PM »
Well, they have let them fly into NYC twice....I would consider that more congested than LA.
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« Reply #782 on: November 18, 2010, 05:55:26 PM »
Well, they have let them fly into NYC twice....I would consider that more congested than LA.

Yes, but NYC has a better public transportation system, that reaches out to more areas, than LA, no? Plus, everyone lives stacked on top of each other in NYC, but spread out in LA.

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« Reply #783 on: November 18, 2010, 06:06:52 PM »
Well, they have let them fly into NYC twice....I would consider that more congested than LA.

Yes, but NYC has a better public transportation system, that reaches out to more areas, than LA, no? Plus, everyone lives stacked on top of each other in NYC, but spread out in LA.

Yes, for instance in TAR 10 they went from JFK to the Daily News building, a trip that can be made nearly entirely by subway.
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« Reply #784 on: November 18, 2010, 06:14:10 PM »
Well, they have let them fly into NYC twice....I would consider that more congested than LA.

Yes, but NYC has a better public transportation system, that reaches out to more areas, than LA, no? Plus, everyone lives stacked on top of each other in NYC, but spread out in LA.

Are you serious............that metropolitian area goes from DC to Boston....... and they used both taxis and mass transit....

In TAR 1 they didnt have to clear customs......but I do think it is combination of logistics and security. Helicopters are expensive....so how long do you think they ride them......30 minutes?  More/less?
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« Reply #785 on: November 18, 2010, 06:45:52 PM »
Are you serious............that metropolitian area goes from DC to Boston....... and they used both taxis and mass transit....

In TAR 1 they didnt have to clear customs......but I do think it is combination of logistics and security. Helicopters are expensive....so how long do you think they ride them......30 minutes?  More/less?

There are quite a bit of trees and rural areas between DC and NYC ;)

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« Reply #786 on: November 18, 2010, 07:18:41 PM »
Are you serious............that metropolitian area goes from DC to Boston....... and they used both taxis and mass transit....

In TAR 1 they didnt have to clear customs......but I do think it is combination of logistics and security. Helicopters are expensive....so how long do you think they ride them......30 minutes?  More/less?

There are quite a bit of trees and rural areas between DC and NYC ;)

Well I certainly agree with that......and I look at the LA area as San Diego to Santa Barbara and over to San Bernadino......lots of trees and brush there too.
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« Reply #787 on: November 19, 2010, 11:59:44 AM »
I agree to disagree, and will leave it at that  :lol: :badhorse:

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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #788 on: November 19, 2010, 01:27:52 PM »
 
First, I think you need to know WHY they took helicopters............they never have before when coming back to the US mainland.

LA is a huge, urbanized area with plenty of traffic to delay a team unfairly. (It's a great place to start a leg, since there are no tasks except getting to the airport.) Theoretically, they would rent the helicopters to get the teams on an even playing field instead of relying on taxi and traffic luck, and to get them out of the metropolis itself for a wider array of tasks (like the zipline fun and woodsy detours in TAR 13). Even though I've never been nor lived in SoCal, I'd think it would be logistically difficult to get a proper race course set up in the LA urban area because it's so spread out. Other seasons seemed to have a more concentrated course for the final tasks.

We've never had them finish in the LA area, either.


 
I'm thinking out of the box... Where could they have gone from LA? I like the helicopter idea. Bus? Car with GPS?  :lol:

From LA, the teams could have gone anywhere. Perhaps to the High Desert area such as Lancaster, (Edwards AFB.) A private area near the ocean for example some famous person's estate. (Barbra Streisand's Malibu estate?)  I can't think of much near Palm Springs. Open to suggestions though. How about south to San Clemente?


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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #789 on: November 19, 2010, 02:22:37 PM »
Well, unless we get a clue, it is just impossible to guess where they went.
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« Reply #790 on: November 19, 2010, 02:41:43 PM »
Well, unless we get a clue, it is just impossible to guess where they went.

I know. So frustrating.  (:;) 

(not to mention my detective skills are not finely honed as to where to hunt.)
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« Reply #791 on: November 19, 2010, 03:24:39 PM »
We will have to wait for preview screencaps and the written promos for the finale. It will be a busy week. When they have used helicopters in the past to transport teams........they always have taken them to another airport and then the teams drive /taxi from there. So probably a small, general aviation airport in the area of the LA basin/SoCal area that they have the tasks for the finale.

Towered general aviation airports
Brackett Field (IATA: POC, ICAO: KPOC) is in La Verne.
Camarillo Airport (IATA: CMA, ICAO: KCMA) is in Camarillo.
Chino Airport (IATA: CNO, ICAO: KCNO) is in Chino.
El Monte Airport (IATA: EMT, ICAO: KEMT) is in El Monte.
Fullerton Municipal Airport (IATA: FUL, ICAO: KFUL) is in Fullerton.
General William J. Fox Airfield (IATA: WJF, ICAO: KWJF) is in Lancaster.
Hawthorne Municipal Airport (IATA: HHR, ICAO: KHHR) is in Hawthorne.
Oxnard Airport (IATA: OXR, ICAO: KOXR) is in Oxnard.
San Bernardino International Airport (IATA: SBD, ICAO: KSBD) is in San Bernardino.
Santa Monica Airport (IATA: SMO, ICAO: KSMO) is in Santa Monica
Southern California Logistics Airport (IATA: VCV, ICAO: KVCV) is in Victorville in San Bernardino County, far north-east of the city.
Van Nuys Airport (IATA: VNY, ICAO: KVNY) is in the San Fernando Valley. It is the world's busiest general aviation airport.[1]
Whiteman Airport (IATA: WHP, ICAO: KWHP) is in the northern San Fernando Valley.
Zamperini Field (IATA: TOA, ICAO: KTOA) is in Torrance.
Riverside Municipal Airport (IATA: RAL, ICAO: KRAL) is in Riverside


Non-towered general aviation airports
Apple Valley Airport (IATA: APV, ICAO: KAPV) is in Apple Valley
Cable Airport (IATA: CCB, ICAO: KCCB) is in Upland.
Catalina Airport (IATA: CIB, ICAO: KAVX) is near Avalon, Santa Catalina Island.
Compton/Woodley Airport (IATA: CPM, ICAO: KCPM) is in Compton.
Corona Municipal Airport (IATA: AJO, ICAO: KAJO) is in Corona.
Flabob Airport (IATA: RIR, ICAO: KRIR) is in Riverside.
Perris Valley Airport (FAA LID: L65) is in Perris.
Redlands Municipal Airport (IATA: REI, ICAO: KREI) is in Redlands.
Rialto Municipal Airport (FAA LID: L67) is in Rialto.

I also found a list of 61 federally registered heliports.
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Re: TAR 17 Speculation
« Reply #792 on: November 19, 2010, 03:28:40 PM »
We will have to wait for preview screencaps and the written promos for the finale. It will be a busy week.

I know, that one will be taken down to every frame.  :spy:
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« Reply #793 on: November 19, 2010, 05:06:36 PM »
Talking about the LA airport reminded me of the last trip we took there. Even though my husband lived in the outskirts of LA for years, after landing we got in the rental, drove out of the airport and were immediately lost and in a really bad area. I wouldn't think letting the racers drive themselves to a location would be a good idea.   :umn:

If we knew they flew into Ontario that would be different.

However, there are no international flights I know of into Ontario or any other smaller airport in California. Except for Ontario International Airport flights from London, the only California airports with international flights other than to/from Mexico are Sacramento, San Francisco, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. I am going to look into further to make sure I am right.

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« Reply #794 on: November 21, 2010, 06:18:41 PM »
According to an ex-girlfriend of a friend of a friend's cousin, they ended in Santa Barbara, California.

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« Reply #795 on: November 21, 2010, 06:47:09 PM »
According to an ex-girlfriend of a friend of a friend's cousin, they ended in Santa Barbara, California.

Is that supposed 2 b a joke?
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« Reply #796 on: November 21, 2010, 06:48:50 PM »
According to an ex-girlfriend of a friend of a friend's cousin, they ended in Santa Barbara, California.

Is that supposed 2 b a joke?

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« Reply #797 on: December 01, 2010, 04:41:35 PM »
Speculation: Did anyone notice this?



It has been showed twice (episode 8 and 10) and only Nat-Kat showed being interview with that 'background'. This interview could be happened in the final pitstop....
Can anyone recognize the place?  :lol:

Again, it was just my spec :)
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« Reply #798 on: December 01, 2010, 05:16:34 PM »
Hmmmmm...good eye! Let's look!
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« Reply #799 on: December 01, 2010, 05:19:22 PM »
Speculation: Did anyone notice this?



It has been showed twice (episode 8 and 10) and only Nat-Kat showed being interview with that 'background'. This interview could be happened in the final pitstop....
Can anyone recognize the place?  :lol:

Again, it was just my spec :)
You mean the finish line?

If it's after the final leg, looks like someone may not have won. :(


 

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