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Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« on: May 11, 2010, 01:20:48 PM »
OK, so let's move on. If you were betting on the destination of TAR17's first leg, where would you put your money? For sporting chances, we'll say you can pick a westward-bound location and an eastward-bound location.

If they go around the world west to east, I'll pick Melbourne, Australia. Australia seems due.
If they go east to west, I'll go with Madrid, Spain.

Remember, this is not a "where you wish they'd go first," but a "where you think they'll go first." Peach will come up with a prize for the winner.  :lol:


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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 01:30:56 PM »
I'm betting they go East, and that they will go to Rome, Italy.
If they go West, I'll predict Hong Kong.

Melbourne would be a lovely place to visit, but I doubt it would be the first destination.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 02:04:48 PM »
East: London, UK
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 03:18:48 PM »
West: Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 03:36:58 PM »
I have to agree with woden, especially with Australia.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 06:07:02 PM »
Will the volcanic ash from Iceland affect the route? Spain closed airports this week due to another erruption. I think they may avoid Europe all together because of this and also the fact that Europe has featured heavily the last few years.

Australia as a first leg would be a great start to the race I think. Melbourne is really just a city, they would have to go to the Great Ocean road if they went there. Perhaps 2 legs in Australia with Ayres Rock for leg 2??
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 06:18:17 PM »
woden, I hope you're right. Madrid would be a great choice!

I say:

East: Some Spanish city.
West: North of Asian Russia?
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 08:07:04 PM »
I pick Melbourne as well.

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 08:33:15 PM »
Hmmm... Have no idea how to work this out but if they go east, I pick Fontvieille, Monaco, and Nouméa, New Caledonia if they head west....

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 08:35:47 PM »
West: North of Asian Russia?

What's north of Asian Russia?


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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 08:54:10 PM »
West: North of Asian Russia?

What's north of Asian Russia?

He means the places like Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk, Gibberishk, and Wordsk. :lol3:

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 11:40:13 PM »
East: South Africa (Capetown, Johannesburg, Durban--> FIFA??)
West: Perth, Australia
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 02:58:11 AM »
East: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (they need a detour around the volcano, no?)
West: Manila, Philippines
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2010, 08:43:41 AM »
I wanted to take a look at the world map. Then i thought they will definitely start off from Asia or Australia.

I wanted to say China.. but they just went there last season. So you know they're going to avoid that country.

With the elections going on in Philippines, there could be abit of riot and TAR would want to avoid that.

Been a long time since they visited South Korea. I don't think they will start off from Australia.. they have never done that but it will be a great surprise.

I'm going with either Russia or South Korea.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 08:50:29 AM »
We also have to consider that this is a summer-run route, so there's likely to be a greater emphasis on the Northern Hemisphere.

East - Dakar, Senegal (please? I mean, the use of "set" flights allows Africa to be easily visited first)
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 09:03:04 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 09:34:07 AM »
First place prize:

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 10:15:16 AM »
Oh yeah, the ash. Silly me. Europe is probably out for the eastern routes. I like the Jo'burg and Rio ideas.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 11:59:17 AM »
Oh yeah, the ash. Silly me. Europe is probably out for the eastern routes. I like the Jo'burg and Rio ideas.

Spain and Portugal aren't  :hearts: TAR could easily have two legs in the former.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2010, 12:06:03 PM »
Spain, Portugal, Canary Islands , and Gibraltor were all affected yesterday with multiple flights cancelled.

Poor WRP is going to have it's hands full.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2010, 12:11:39 PM »
Below are the countries with current travel warnings from the US

Cote d'Ivoire    05/12/2010
Niger    05/11/2010
Mexico   05/06/2010
Georgia    05/03/2010
Congo, Democratic Republic of the    04/21/2010
Kyrgyz Republic   04/20/2010
Philippines    04/02/2010
Algeria    04/02/2010
Lebanon    03/29/2010
Kenya    03/16/2010
Haiti    03/15/2010
Colombia    03/05/2010
Eritrea    03/02/2010
Central African Republic    02/26/2010
Yemen    02/25/2010
Iraq    02/25/2010
Saudi Arabia    02/18/2010
Pakistan    01/07/2010
Sudan    12/31/2009
Somalia    12/31/2009
Mauritania    12/02/2009
Chad    11/23/2009
Mali    11/19/2009
Sri Lanka    11/19/2009
Nepal    11/19/2009
Guinea    10/17/2009
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza    08/14/2009
Afghanistan    07/23/2009
Burundi    07/22/2009
Nigeria    07/17/2009
Uzbekistan    06/16/2009

From: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Travel Alerts

Mozambique   04/30/2010
Thailand   04/28/2010
India   04/16/2010
Malaysia   04/16/2010
Ethiopia   04/13/2010

Looks like no India this season.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2010, 12:13:50 PM »
Could we be in for another TAR 2 route then?

I take back anything I said earlier. We're probably going to be in for Asia, Australia, Africa, MAYBE eastern Europe (unlikely). South America may be back in the ring so that teams can get to Africa (an eastward route seems more likely now).
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2010, 12:15:42 PM »
Below are the countries with current travel warnings from the US

Cote d'Ivoire    05/12/2010
Niger    05/11/2010
Mexico   05/06/2010
Georgia    05/03/2010
Congo, Democratic Republic of the    04/21/2010
Kyrgyz Republic   04/20/2010
Philippines    04/02/2010
Algeria    04/02/2010
Lebanon    03/29/2010
Kenya    03/16/2010
Haiti    03/15/2010
Colombia    03/05/2010
Eritrea    03/02/2010
Central African Republic    02/26/2010
Yemen    02/25/2010
Iraq    02/25/2010
Saudi Arabia    02/18/2010
Pakistan    01/07/2010
Sudan    12/31/2009
Somalia    12/31/2009
Mauritania    12/02/2009
Chad    11/23/2009
Mali    11/19/2009
Sri Lanka    11/19/2009
Nepal    11/19/2009
Guinea    10/17/2009
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza    08/14/2009
Afghanistan    07/23/2009
Burundi    07/22/2009
Nigeria    07/17/2009
Uzbekistan    06/16/2009

From: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Travel Alerts

Mozambique   04/30/2010
Thailand   04/28/2010
India   04/16/2010
Malaysia   04/16/2010
Ethiopia   04/13/2010

Looks like no India this season.

Note: Travel Warnings=Don't go long term. Travel Alerts=Don't go short term.

I agree with no India this season (this warning has been in place for the last two cycles and has prevented a return to that country), but I think Sri Lanka and the Philippines are feasible. The travel warnings are for certain provinces, not the whole country.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2010, 02:32:19 PM »
USA's travel warnings are little overprotective. In their standards India is always dangerous country because there is always something happening but in some spesific areas not everywhere. Also Israel is perfectly safe I was just there in March visiting in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. And last summer I visited in Georgia (btw amazing country and very European). In Mexico there is always some drug wars going on, it's probably on the list because some rebels killed those Finnish and Mexican human rights workers in April.  I love also how on the website they make my home country sound more interesting than it real is, like: Elements of organized crime groups operating in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe are present in Finland.   B:)

But lets stay in topic
East: Madrid or anywhere in Spain! (and hopefully in late-June or July because I'm going to be there then :jumpy:)
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2010, 02:56:26 PM »
I would love if they came to Lisbon, because I study there, so I'd have hopes to run into some of the teams while using public transportation! LOL

However, since this is not a "wishing" topic, I think they will start with either Australia or New Zealand :)

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2010, 03:24:33 PM »
West: North of Asian Russia?

What's north of Asian Russia?

Something like Magadan, or like such as... you know.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2010, 06:58:24 PM »
East: Brazil
West: Australia

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2010, 10:34:25 PM »
West- Start in either Seattle, San Francisco, or LA, and go to Cambodia, and then hopefully the 2nd leg will be in a tiny island country like Micronesia or Fiji

East-Start in LA or NYC, and go to Morocco

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 05:02:48 PM »
hi guys.. newbie..

hope they'll try this route.. did they already taken this route in previous Seasons?

East to West    Start (Oregon)

Australia--Southeast Asia (Laos or Phils.)---South Asia (Sri Lanka(safe now here)/Maldives(same as Seychelles))
--Mideast (BAhrain)

--- East or North Africa --- and avoiding Europe --- divert to South America --- then US (Texas) :duno: :yess:
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2010, 07:26:44 PM »
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2010, 03:09:36 PM »
I agree with Madrid, Spain. TAR has a huge debt with that country. If westwards, I would say the Easter Islands (though is very unlikely to have Chile as first leg again) or Perú, just a little bit of South América before continuing on Asia or Oceania.

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2010, 05:04:27 PM »
If they go east, they should go to Brazil, then Spain, then spend a lot of time in Africa, and then head to Asia or Australia/Oceania before heading back to America.

If they go west, they should go to the Philippines, then head to Australia, then spend a lot of time in East and North Africa, and finally spend one leg in Europe (Spain) before heading back to the U.S.

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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2010, 05:42:33 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2010, 05:18:45 PM »
East: Lima Peru
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2010, 06:36:30 PM »
The FIFA World Cup stars in South Africa on June 10 for a month. I can't see TAR going there during this time due to high prices of air fares and too much else going on at that time.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2010, 10:42:41 PM »
The FIFA World Cup stars in South Africa on June 10 for a month. I can't see TAR going there during this time due to high prices of air fares and too much else going on at that time.

You have a strong point there. Also, I wouldn't say a place in Europe with the intermittent volcano situation there.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2010, 09:30:36 AM »
The FIFA World Cup stars in South Africa on June 10 for a month. I can't see TAR going there during this time due to high prices of air fares and too much else going on at that time.

You have a strong point there. Also, I wouldn't say a place in Europe with the intermittent volcano situation there.
How about this: East - Rabat in Morocco, or West - Ulaanbaator in Mongolia... at least it will be fun to hear them say THAT ONE. Hehe!!!

Well it could work. Why not fly into a nearby country (Lesotho) have a leg there and then drive into South Africa. And if TAR starts soon then they could visit and be gone before it even starts.

I think Europe is definitely out (unless it's East Europe maybe) cuz of all the volcano's in Iceland. So I'm think it would be

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2010, 11:28:15 AM »
For the first time ever, we might see South America in back-to-back editions. Africa is not easy to access (the only direct flight I can think of from US to Africa are East Coast to Johannesburg).

I also agree a return visit to Australia is highly likely.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2010, 11:41:48 AM »
For the first time ever, we might see South America in back-to-back editions. Africa is not easy to access (the only direct flight I can think of from US to Africa are East Coast to Johannesburg).

I also agree a return visit to Australia is highly likely.

Not exactly. There are a number of flights to North Africa mainly. They may have 1 in North Africa then moving to Southern Africa.
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2010, 02:33:51 PM »
IF Spain airports are still closed, it is difficult to go to the North of Europe.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2010, 07:28:37 PM »
The FIFA World Cup stars in South Africa on June 10 for a month. I can't see TAR going there during this time due to high prices of air fares and too much else going on at that time.

You have a strong point there. Also, I wouldn't say a place in Europe with the intermittent volcano situation there.
How about this: East - Rabat in Morocco, or West - Ulaanbaator in Mongolia... at least it will be fun to hear them say THAT ONE. Hehe!!!

They went to Mongolia in S10. Peter turned Sarah into some sort of freak show for money. Hated that leg.

Guys, look at possible cities where teams can take a direct flight or connect via an American city.

East: Madrid, Spain then if possible take train to Italy (no ash)
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2010, 08:42:53 PM »
The problem is that even Spain is out of commission.

I suppose it may be possible for teams to go to Cairo first leg, but that's a big jump.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2010, 09:40:58 PM »
ASH is still very much a concern. Both Heathrow and Schipol were closed for some hours today.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2010, 11:32:52 PM »
If they head West (Assuming LA start point) Melbourne, Sydney and Auckland are all directly connected.

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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2010, 07:43:54 PM »
For South and East: South America, Southern Europe, or Africa
For West: Oceania or Asia

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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2010, 11:07:55 AM »
I'm betting they go East, and that they will go to Rome, Italy.

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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2010, 04:52:21 PM »
How about coming back to Costa Rica, Ecuador or Panama? Switchback for the first leg...

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2010, 08:48:59 PM »
ASH is still very much a concern. Both Heathrow and Schipol were closed for some hours today.

The volcanic ash according to the British Meteological Office is north in the Arctic Ocean and White Sea off the coast of northern Russia.  Airports are working fine in Europe and the Mediteranean with very little or no volcanic ash interuption.

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« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2010, 07:29:39 AM »
ASH is still very much a concern. Both Heathrow and Schipol were closed for some hours today.

The volcanic ash according to the British Meteological Office is north in the Arctic Ocean and White Sea off the coast of northern Russia.  Airports are working fine in Europe and the Mediteranean with very little or no volcanic ash interuption.

Heathrow was not closed to my knowledge. There has been a flight attendant strike which caused the cancellation of  many national and international flights. from the Associated Press  yesterday:
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LONDON (AP) -- Thousands of travelers face the renewed threat of disruption in coming weeks after the union representing British Airways cabin crews won a landmark ruling against a legal block on its planned strikes. The Unite union said it wouldn't immediately order workers off the job and instead intended to pursue talks with BA management to resolve a bitter dispute over changes to pay and working conditions - but indicated that staff will walk out from Monday if no deal is reached by then. BA said it was disappointed that Unite intended to go ahead with "its unjustified and pointless strikes," saying it planned to fly around 70 percent of passengers booked to travel over the targeted period. Negotiations between the union and the airline in the months long dispute have become increasingly difficult since Unite forged ahead with a financially damaging walkout in March and BA took disciplinary action against several workers. Unite was incensed when BA turned to the courts earlier this week, just hours before a planned series of strikes totaling 20 days was due to begin. The loss-making airline won a ruling from the High Court that the walkouts were unlawful because of a technical error in the union's ballot of members. It was the third time in less than six months that the courts had barred a major transport strike, including a planned walkout by BA cabin crews over the Christmas and New Year breaks - on technical grounds. Two other strikes are currently before the courts. The decision on Thursday by the Court of Appeal overturning the High Court ruling - in a 2-1 ruling from the three judges - was hailed by the union movement as a restoration of the long-held democratic right of workers to walk off the job in industrial disputes. "This is an important victory," said Trades Union Congress General Secretary Brendan Barber. "I hope it marks a halt to the recent run of arbitrary legal judgments where employers have found it all too easy to get courts to find in their favor and prevent employees from exercising their democratic right to take strike action." Unite, which represents some 90 percent of BA's 12,000 cabin crew, struck a conciliatory note outside the court, saying it was keen to use the enforced break to return to the negotiating table. "We would hope that we don't have to strike at all," Derek Simpson, joint general secretary of Unite, told reporters outside the court in central London. "We would call upon British Airways to go that extra mile ... and allow us to proceed to what is absolutely required in this, a negotiated conclusion." The union is particularly angry about the disciplinary action taken against around 50 workers and that BA removed travel perks from staff who took part in the March strike and this week took out full-page newspaper advertisements accusing "Brutish Airways" of bullying. BA Chief Executive Officer Willie Walsh has insisted that the travel concessions are not part of the negotiations and will not be reinstated. The airline said Thursday it had already put forward a "very fair" offer on changes, such as reduced staffing on longhaul flights, that it argues are necessary for its survival in a post-financial crisis world where demand for air travel has fallen. BA, which is due to report a third record annual loss when it releases its earnings on Friday, has been hit hard by the global economic downturn because of its heavy running costs and reliance on premium fare traffic. The union says it has already agreed to significant savings and that the airline is now going too far. Simpson said cabin crews would not begin strike action until the planned start of the second of the original four blocks of five-day walkouts - May 18-22, May 24-28, May 30-June 3 and June 5-9. BA has been running a reduced service this week, but had been unwinding some of its contingency plans for the walkout - which would still fall over a British school summer vacation period, a long weekend and the run-up to the football World Cup in South Africa - to allow more flights. After the ruling, it said it expected a large number of cabin crew staff to ignore the strike call - as several did during the March walkout. London's Heathrow Airport will again bear the brunt of the cancellations with the airline planning to operate around 60 percent of its longhaul program and 50 percent of its shorthaul service from that hub. It plans to operate a full schedule at Gatwick and London City.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2010, 07:31:38 AM »
I follow the lead of the Australian contingent, RichInSydney and Coutzy, in nominating Melbourne.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2010, 07:47:39 AM »
ASH is still very much a concern. Both Heathrow and Schipol were closed for some hours today.

The volcanic ash according to the British Meteological Office is north in the Arctic Ocean and White Sea off the coast of northern Russia.  Airports are working fine in Europe and the Mediteranean with very little or no volcanic ash interuption.

Heathrow was not closed to my knowledge.

Both Heathrow and Schiphol were clsed for some hours on Monday, as I said.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2010, 12:32:51 PM »
ASH is still very much a concern. Both Heathrow and Schipol were closed for some hours today.

The volcanic ash according to the British Meteological Office is north in the Arctic Ocean and White Sea off the coast of northern Russia.  Airports are working fine in Europe and the Mediteranean with very little or no volcanic ash interuption.

Sure. But if you're in charge of producing a show that costs millions of dollars, has to wrap within a three week window, and must be meticulously coordinated, you're not taking chances on "little to no interruption." The only way BVM goes through Europe on this race is if he is guaranteed functioning planes and airports, and I don't see that happening.

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« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2010, 12:34:02 PM »
Airports have been closed in many places here in Europe in the past week. Today (Friday) airports in northern Norway were closed. But the volcano is again calmed down but you can expect it to erupt again.

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« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2010, 12:46:32 PM »
So Northern Hemisphere summer + avoiding Europe = more China, India and Thailand. Joy.

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« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2010, 12:55:04 PM »
So Northern Hemisphere summer + avoiding Europe = more China, India and Thailand. Joy.

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I would think Thailand is out because of the recent troubles in Bangkok, right?
And I guess they'll give North and South Korea a miss what with all the sabre rattling going on...
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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2010, 02:04:07 PM »
And maybe no Australia either. :(
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2010, 03:54:02 PM »
I would think Thailand is out because of the recent troubles in Bangkok, right?

Oh, you're right about that! Though they did narrowly miss the trouble in TAR 14 when they closed down Suvarnabhumi Airport; I was in Phuket and Bangkok a week after them and all the flights were screwed up...

Not too many choices then? We'd be seeing quite some South American winter I suppose?
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2010, 04:00:25 PM »
I would think Thailand is out because of the recent troubles in Bangkok, right?

Oh, you're right about that! Though they did narrowly miss the trouble in TAR 14 when they closed down Suvarnabhumi Airport; I was in Phuket and Bangkok a week after them and all the flights were screwed up...

Not too many choices then? We'd be seeing quite some South American winter I suppose?

Perhaps the first time we have SA in back-to-back installments?

I'm thinking that TAR might actually look at North America and say, "Hey we haven't been here in a while..." Canada would probably be first on that list.
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2010, 07:24:23 PM »
So Northern Hemisphere summer + avoiding Europe = more China, India and Thailand. Joy.

Surprise me, CBS!
I would think Thailand is out because of the recent troubles in Bangkok, right?
And I guess they'll give North and South Korea a miss what with all the sabre rattling going on...

The interesting thing is that most of these problems are relatively recent developments (Thailand, volcano, etc) -- I wonder how much tweaking TPTB have had to do at the eleventh hour. No Australia would really be a shame -- it's an available location with lots more to see and a long gap between visits.

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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2010, 05:00:38 PM »
Europe is fine now, besides the Iceland volcano ash hasn't been much of a talk now.  The Heathrow airport thing is due to the British Airways f.a. strike.  I agree with the Thailand situation and the situation between the Korea's.  We could see Australia again since season9, or some of the Pacific Island nations too.  South America would be possible or not since the Chile quake, Brazil could get a revisit again and South Africa as well. 

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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2010, 06:30:27 PM »
Europe is fine now, besides the Iceland volcano ash hasn't been much of a talk now.  The Heathrow airport thing is due to the British Airways f.a. strike.  I agree with the Thailand situation and the situation between the Korea's.  We could see Australia again since season9, or some of the Pacific Island nations too.  South America would be possible or not since the Chile quake, Brazil could get a revisit again and South Africa as well. 

I think the earthquake is not going to take the race out of South America, because it only affected the regions of Maule and Bio Bio in Chile, so any other region in Chile is safe, same for other countries in South America... but anyways i don't think they are visiting South America again...
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2010, 01:38:08 AM »
Th eruption of Eyjafjallajökull has now ended. But it still could start again. So it's very likely that no northern Europe this season. Shame, I'm going Germany next week but maybe I spot them later in Spain  :tup:

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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2010, 06:26:56 PM »
If the race comes to Melbourne, Australia, I'd be more than happy to follow them around!!  :tup:

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« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2010, 06:27:46 PM »
Th eruption of Eyjafjallajökull has now ended. But it still could start again. So it's very likely that no northern Europe this season. Shame, I'm going Germany next week but maybe I spot them later in Spain  :tup:

I'd like to see them in Spain.  They haven't been there for awhile.

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« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2010, 06:34:03 PM »
If the race comes to Melbourne, Australia, I'd be more than happy to follow them around!!  :tup:

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2010, 06:39:56 PM »
I'm happy to share with Coutzy!

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« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2010, 08:37:45 PM »
I'm happy to share with Coutzy!

I will do what I can, but you guys are so fast and good! I'm jealous

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« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2010, 10:06:25 PM »
And maybe no Australia either. :(
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« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2010, 07:42:55 PM »
And maybe no Australia either. :(
So you have inside knowledge that there will be no Australia in this route? Yes or no?

Whats with "maybe no Australia," its been a while since Season9 and there are plenty of places left in that country they haven't been to yet.

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« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2010, 11:38:25 PM »
And maybe no Australia either. :(
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« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2010, 03:43:44 AM »
east = unvisited Central American country
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« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2010, 09:06:46 AM »
I don't think South Korea will be visited this season. Too much tension there.
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2010, 09:11:16 AM »
Th eruption of Eyjafjallajökull has now ended. But it still could start again. So it's very likely that no northern Europe this season. Shame, I'm going Germany next week but maybe I spot them later in Spain  :tup:

I'd like to see them in Spain.  They haven't been there for awhile.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2010, 09:18:55 AM »
So, given that the starting line is at Boston, we may see a European start! But if that volcano is still there, I'm guessing Central America islands!

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« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2010, 09:22:35 AM »
Maybe Canada? A lot of flights into Toronto today.
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« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2010, 09:29:40 AM »
So, given that the starting line is at Boston, we may see a European start! But if that volcano is still there, I'm guessing Central America islands!

What??? we know the starting line? It hasn't even begun and I'm already behind?  :umn:
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« Reply #76 on: May 26, 2010, 09:32:17 AM »
Maybe Canada? A lot of flights into Toronto today.

Though, it's an Eastward race. If they do fly to Canada, they'll have to fly to Europe for the next legs. But  The path to Europe is kinda shaky and unstable due to the ash thingy (if it's still on). So, I **speculate** it's NOT Canada.

OR Canada, then fly to South America, but I don't **think** so.
So, given that the starting line is at Boston, we may see a European start! But if that volcano is still there, I'm guessing Central America islands!

What??? we know the starting line? It hasn't even begun and I'm already behind?  :umn:

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« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2010, 09:35:10 AM »
See? I AM behind.. running to the tweet thread.  :sneak
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« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2010, 06:57:57 PM »
I'm moving my post here to help the mods ^_^

Summarizing some incoming info:

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and Virgin Atlantic 12 dep 7:45 PM arr 7:20 AM ( remaining 8 teams).

Destination: Heathrow, then on to STONEHENGE!! :hearts:

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« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2010, 09:33:35 PM »
So GonzaloChileno wins? Congrats on winning that Eyjafjallajokull ash! :snicker:

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« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2010, 12:31:58 AM »
I was thinking about this earlier tonight, and I can't believe TAR hadn't gone to Stonehenge in sixteen full seasons. About time they went there.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2010, 11:05:00 AM »
I was thinking about this earlier tonight, and I can't believe TAR hadn't gone to Stonehenge in sixteen full seasons. About time they went there.

Maybe they were just saving it for later. :lol:
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« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2010, 07:25:13 PM »
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2010, 05:13:33 PM »
So, to stay on topic; next betting question:

What tasks will appear in the 90-minute premier?
Detour, Roadblock?

Will we find out what the new twist does in the first episode?

Will we get another "obvious" edit of the F4(or 5)?

Will we get more screamers (Meredith, Victoria, etc.) this season?
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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2010, 08:17:51 PM »
So, to stay on topic; next betting question:

What tasks will appear in the 90-minute premier?
Roadblock and a general task, as has been customary for the past 3 seasons.

Will we find out what the new twist does in the first episode? Yes (otherwise later viewers will be confused)

Will we get another "obvious" edit of the F4(or 5)? I see a lot of emphasis on the FF teams. Too much emphasis causes hype, which leads to backlash, just saying.

Will we get more screamers (Meredith, Victoria, etc.) this season? Define screaming. Bickering, yes. Complaining, probably.
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« Reply #85 on: July 25, 2010, 10:09:12 PM »
Define screaming. Bickering, yes. Complaining, probably.
I mean people that continuously scream to their partners (and I meant Gretchen instead of Meredith xD)

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Offline Mug Costanza

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #86 on: July 25, 2010, 10:23:18 PM »
What tasks will appear in the 90-minute premier?
I'd really like to see a Detour AND a Roadblock. If the spoilers from the first leg are correct, there wouldn't be enough time for an overnight rest, so with 90-minutes, they COULD have time to show both a Detour and a Roadblock. Probably a bit unlikely though. What I AM interested to see is the teams trying to get from Gloucester to Logan Airport, since I live outside of the city and I know getting to the airport can be a nightmare if you don't know where you're going.

Will we find out what the new twist does in the first episode?
I hope so.

Will we get another "obvious" edit of the F4(or 5)?
I hope not.

Will we get more screamers (Meredith, Victoria, etc.) this season?
There always is, so I'll say yeah.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #87 on: July 26, 2010, 12:00:02 AM »
What tasks will appear in the 90-minute premier?
I'd really like to see a Detour AND a Roadblock. If the spoilers from the first leg are correct, there wouldn't be enough time for an overnight rest, so with 90-minutes, they COULD have time to show both a Detour and a Roadblock. Probably a bit unlikely though.
Try unlikely.  Those turned out to be an elaborate hoax that someone blew right out of the water.

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #88 on: July 26, 2010, 01:53:52 AM »
What tasks will appear in the 90-minute premier?
I'd really like to see a Detour AND a Roadblock. If the spoilers from the first leg are correct, there wouldn't be enough time for an overnight rest, so with 90-minutes, they COULD have time to show both a Detour and a Roadblock. Probably a bit unlikely though.
Try unlikely.  Those turned out to be an elaborate hoax that someone blew right out of the water.
No, I didn't mean it that way. I mean that the flights carrying teams to their first destination (keeping it hidden, just in case someone comes to the spoilers board expecting NOT to find spoilers...  :lol3: ) arrived at like 7 or 8 in the morning local time, so it wasn't like they were arriving at a time that was feasbile for TPTB to include an overnight rest. I was lurking around here when whatshisface unleashed his reign of fake first-leg spoilers amongst us all, so I do know what you're talking about. That's just not what I was refering to when I mentioned the spoilers.

(But I'll still hold out hope that with a 90-minute premier, we might might might see a Detour and a Roadblock in the same leg.  :tup: )

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Re: Taking bets on the first leg of TAR17?
« Reply #89 on: July 26, 2010, 05:38:44 AM »
I hope we see both, like in China TAR 10. BUT, no quick eliminations please! :o


 

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