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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #225 on: May 08, 2010, 09:48:37 PM »
Four hours is for not completing a roadblock, like the meat-eating one from TAR7.

Twenty-Four hours is for not completing a detour, like Nancy & Emily.

The show probably has a formula for other time penalties.


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« Reply #226 on: May 08, 2010, 09:55:45 PM »
I never seen such thing before nor read it anywhere, so I don't know what is the exact penalty. But 30mins would be a 'help' for B/C, and 4 hours would be too much and it would surely ruin the finale for B/C. Forcing Caite to do it just seem to be the best option here. To be sure: Isn't the 4 hours penalty for skipped/forfeited tasks?

The crew could have changed the clue envelope after finding out that Brent was doing it....they should be prepared to everything, specially in the last leg :P


The reason why I said 4 hours was because if you just make it 30 minutes, then it is theoretical that one team can have an imbalance throughout the race and still survive. 2 hours seems more likely though (we've seen that penalty before)
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #227 on: May 08, 2010, 10:03:23 PM »
Yes, I'm aware of the 4-hour penalty for not completing roadblocks (Flight Time and Big Easy for example). I meant I never seen or read about penalties for exceeding the roadblock count. It could be a 4-hour penalty too, or it could be forcing the team mate to do it.

I just think a big time penalty in the last leg doesn't make much sense for the show, as it would kill any viewer's (and team mates') expectations for the team to win.

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #228 on: May 08, 2010, 10:04:47 PM »
It's a four hour penalty for failing to complete a roadblock. We don't know what the exact penalty is for violating the six-roadblock penalty because it hasn't happened since it was instituted for season six. (And there have been variations in seasons with 13 roadblocks, and for the Family Edition.) It's also possible there is an exception of some sort because of the two-roadblock leg.)

The other thing to note is that Cord also has to do the roadblock because Jet did his 6th roadblock last week; Dan and Jordan have 5 each because of the fast forward.
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #229 on: May 08, 2010, 10:26:44 PM »
I'm trying to figure out the order of the tasks by thinking of them as parts of an episode, with ~44 minutes minus the commercials.

The CBS twitvid looks like the first 3 minutes of tomorrow's finale.  You add the credits and you're already 4 minutes done.

In TAR14 and TAR15 it took ~3-4 minutes, after the first commercial break ended, for them to arrive in End City.

The sequence of seeing Phil staring out at the Finish Line and the eliminated teams beginning to clap until the credits come up takes up ~5 minutes.

There's ~30 minutes of time left for the tasks and taxi/foot travel to fill.


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« Reply #230 on: May 08, 2010, 11:33:02 PM »
Well, we need 3 dramatic cuts to commercials somewhere. They should be during the three major tasks: Letterman, Coit Tower, and Memory Task.
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #231 on: May 08, 2010, 11:41:01 PM »
CBS posted a twitvid of TAR. Don't know if anything new is shown as I can't play vids on my stupid computer.


After seeing this, the highlight of Brent/Caite keep making mistakes may suggest that they will make mistakes again in the final leg.

But if the hit the 6-roadblock rule is broken, I guess there should be some sort of penalty instead of just let another teammate to finish it? Anyway, they may let them continue the race first and give the penalty in the end.
Going way back to TAR 1 in the first Paris Leg. Dave & Margaretta incurred a penalty because they both performed the roadblock together. Phil told them they could have avoided the penalty if only one of them re-did the task. So it's probable that Caite had to re-do the Roadblock to avoid incurring a penalty. Though we haven't heard the Roadblock limit rule for a while, haven't we? ???
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #232 on: May 09, 2010, 12:18:55 AM »
The colt tower is the last challenge?

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« Reply #233 on: May 09, 2010, 12:26:12 AM »
I've just watched Phil on Bonnie Hunt show and the clip confirms Coit Tower as Roadblock and Cowboys behind Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o

I still think Coit Tower is the first task, not the last, unless all the other tasks took less than 2 hours to complete (memory task included)

Hmm..... but didn't Phil say that the clip they showed of the 2 set of brothers climbing Coit tower was their last task? This also implies that D/J and J/C are basically neck & neck toward the pitstop!
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #234 on: May 09, 2010, 12:27:46 AM »
Yup. Dan and Jordan are in the lead for the last task.


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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #235 on: May 09, 2010, 01:07:08 AM »
I've just watched Phil on Bonnie Hunt show and the clip confirms Coit Tower as Roadblock and Cowboys behind Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhBPi4ii4o

I still think Coit Tower is the first task, not the last, unless all the other tasks took less than 2 hours to complete (memory task included)

Hmm..... but didn't Phil say that the clip they showed of the 2 set of brothers climbing Coit tower was their last task? This also implies that D/J and J/C are basically neck & neck toward the pitstop!


Actually, Phil did not know which clip they were gonna air. The production lady says "final challenge", and Phil only says "it was really good".

I may be going really far with this, but hey look at Dan's hair in the picture. It looks much more sweaty and messed up in the Letterman task still than in the Coit Tower promo photo. He looks like he had had some exercise already :D
Unless he cleaned himself up between tasks he could not look neat in the Coit Tower if it was the last task...

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #236 on: May 09, 2010, 01:50:57 AM »
Not sure if these particular photos have been shared.....

CBS posted them on TwitPic


 

This shot was taken here


It was taken between 10:37 and 10:46 am (assumes December 20th).




Second photo above is near the spot of the cowboys outside LDAC where Chateau estimated 10:37 to 10:46... I estimate B&C here at 10-10:20AM but I'm eyeballing the shadow angle to get this.

Chateau or anyone else, can you double check this?  Reference points for Caite is tree to lamp post, for Brent two trees on far side of Letterman drive small leaning tree and the sign across the parking lot...




This would put Coite after LDAC? 

:idgit.... Could they have put a speed bump at the Tonga room sending all teams to Coit first?
 

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #237 on: May 09, 2010, 02:07:07 AM »
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.

So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?

That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.

I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #238 on: May 09, 2010, 03:03:31 AM »
Based on the posts, tweet times, sunlight estimations and google earth travel times:

  • 08:45 AM Plane Landed.
  • 09:00 AM Frantic couples with backbacks running thru SFO followed by film crew. Great Race contestants? (Brothers?)
  • 09:15 AM Just went through customs on San Francisco, standing in line with two guys from Amazing Race and their camera crew. (Cowboys?)
  • 09:22 AM Cowboys(?) leave SFO.
  • 09:30 AM Brothers(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
  • 09:50 AM Cowboys(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
  • 10:15 AM Brothers(?) leave Coit Tower.
  • 10:25 AM Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center. (Brothers?)
  • 10:27-46 AM Cowboys(?) leave Coit Tower.
  • 10:37-46 AM Cowboys arrive at LDAC.
  • 11:14 AM Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower! (Models)
  • 11:58 AM The Amazing Race contestants scaled the tower then hopped in a SF cab, but I didn't see which team it was. (Models)

According to Google Earth:
  • 27 Mins from SFO to Coit Tower.
  • 10 Mins from Coit Tower to LDAC.

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #239 on: May 09, 2010, 03:10:32 AM »
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.

So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?

That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.

I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.

It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.

Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #240 on: May 09, 2010, 07:01:57 AM »
Based on the posts, tweet times, sunlight estimations and google earth travel times:

  • 08:45 AM Plane Landed.
  • 09:00 AM Frantic couples with backbacks running thru SFO followed by film crew. Great Race contestants? (Brothers?)
  • 09:15 AM Just went through customs on San Francisco, standing in line with two guys from Amazing Race and their camera crew. (Cowboys?)
  • 09:22 AM Cowboys(?) leave SFO.
  • 09:30 AM Brothers(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
  • 09:50 AM Cowboys(?) arrive at Coit Tower.
  • 10:15 AM Brothers(?) leave Coit Tower.
  • 10:25 AM Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center. (Brothers?)
  • 10:27-46 AM Cowboys(?) leave Coit Tower.
  • 10:37-46 AM Cowboys arrive at LDAC.
  • 11:14 AM Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower! (Models)
  • 11:58 AM The Amazing Race contestants scaled the tower then hopped in a SF cab, but I didn't see which team it was. (Models)

According to Google Earth:
  • 27 Mins from SFO to Coit Tower.
  • 10 Mins from Coit Tower to LDAC.

Any thoughts?

It's been 15 years since I lived in the San Francisco area, but I'd be surprised if you could get from SFO to Coit Tower or Coit Tower to LDAC as fast as those given times. There tends to be traffic jams on I-280 coming in from SFO (probably 15-20 miles) and once you leave the freeway, you have to deal with stoplights on city streets getting to Coit Tower. It's the same from Coit Tower from LDAC. Frequent stoplights with a 30 mph or so speed limit would make getting there in 10 minutes difficult. However, since they were there on a weekend, that would help. If I had to guess, I'd say 35-40 minutes from SFO to Coit and 15-20 minutes from Coit to LDAC.

It might actually be faster to take the subway from the airport to downtown SF and get a cab to Coit Tower, but since I never rode the subway to the airport (the section going to the airport opened after I left the area), I don't know if it would work or not. I wouldn't expect any of the teams to know that and it would be a big risk on the final leg. Now that I think about it, the subways run less often on weekends.

The tweets are mostly consistent and it indicates Dan/Jordan having a 10-15 minute shrinking lead over Jet/Cord as they head to the Tonga Room. Brent and Caite took about 2 hours from the time they left the airport until they finished Coit Tower? Ouch.  :ascared  Much faster than I would of done it though.

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #241 on: May 09, 2010, 09:03:19 AM »
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.

So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?

That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.

I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.

It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.

Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
Yes, the Globetrotters mentioned this at the dreaded Kafka Road Block. They chose Big Easy to do it, becuase they wanted Flight Time to do the last one. Shame they didn't know the last one was rappelling... :umn:
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #242 on: May 09, 2010, 09:35:40 AM »
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.

So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?

That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.

I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.

It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.

Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
Yes, the Globetrotters mentioned this at the dreaded Kafka Road Block. They chose Big Easy to do it, becuase they wanted Flight Time to do the last one. Shame they didn't know the last one was rappelling... :umn:

Off topic but great actually, Bricka gave us one heck of a finale!

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #243 on: May 09, 2010, 11:45:19 AM »
A sneak peek twitvid just posted by CBS....not sure if anything new is shown here


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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #244 on: May 09, 2010, 01:57:54 PM »
As the the show gets closer,

I just wanted to say what a great job everyone has done this season!

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #245 on: May 09, 2010, 02:34:07 PM »
Could Catie and Brent be so far behind that when they arrived at Coit Tower the Cowboys and Dan/Jordan had crossed the finish line aldreay.

So TPTB asked Catie to repeal after Brent to act as decoys?

That would go along with the tweet about both Catie and Brent doing that task.

I think the rule about each team member having to complete 6 RB's went out the window several seasons ago.

It was only explicitly mentioned in TAR 6, but I believe it's still retained. Otherwise, why has not one team broken down the rule.
I also believe the Globetrotters mentioned it sometime last season.

Looks like Coit Tower -> LDAC -> Tonga -> Music Hall -> Candlestick Park, with a memory task sometime during or after music hall.
Teams have still referenced it between the show, clips and interviews after the fact.  For example in All Stars Eric brought it up a couple times in trying to get Danielle to agree to do RB's (she didn't) thus putting that team in a position were Danielle was forced to do the last two.  Eric was upset because one that he tried to get her to do was passive (just sump), and the next leg was a compass task that he knew how to use and Danielle never learned.  This was either in clips or the episodes.

And logically in this season in France at one RB Jordan talks about how Dan has already done a certain number of Roadblocks and he had done two less, so no matter what the task was he knew he had to do it.  Well the only logical reason he had to do it is because teams must share a certain number of roadblocks.
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #246 on: May 09, 2010, 02:51:04 PM »
well well well....after weeks of silence..it is confirmed that the winner team is: JET AND CORD..!!
(highlight to see it)

sucks right??


thanks to spiderracer(from buddy tv)
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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #247 on: May 09, 2010, 03:48:51 PM »
That's not bad. That's AWESOME!!! Woot. I want that team to win.

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #248 on: May 09, 2010, 04:27:30 PM »
well well well....after weeks of silence..it is confirmed that the winner team is: JET AND CORD..!!
(highlight to see it)

sucks right??


thanks to spiderracer(from buddy tv)

How do we know if that person is reliable? Did he back it up with evidence or an explanation of this result? To me that's still speculation unless it's proven otherwise.

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Re: TAR16 - EP 12: "Huger than Huge" FINALE!! (summary in posts 1thru 3)
« Reply #249 on: May 09, 2010, 05:27:17 PM »
That spoiler from Buddy TV is wrong because he first wrote Catie and Brent's name as the team that wins. We know it is between the cowboys and the other brothers so I say he doesn't know who wins and is just guessing like we all seem to be doing.


 

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