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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams through TAR 20 (Ongoing)
« Reply #200 on: February 28, 2012, 12:58:39 PM »
I hope Dave & Rachel wouldn't get first place too often anymore. I like them but it would make the race boring, like what Andy & Tommy did. I want the prizes to be distributed widely as possible. So many teams will go home happy.  :<3
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams through TAR 20 (Ongoing)
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2012, 01:09:03 PM »
I hope that Rachel and Dave bets the record,with most wins. It is now 7 wins in the Us-version.

Meghan and Cheyne set that awesome record <33
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams through TAR 20 (Ongoing)
« Reply #202 on: February 28, 2012, 01:31:11 PM »
I hope that Rachel and Dave bets the record,with most wins. It is now 7 wins in the Us-version.

Meghan and Cheyne set that awesome record <33

They are tied with Nick & Starr from season 13.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams through TAR 20 (Ongoing)
« Reply #203 on: February 28, 2012, 01:32:58 PM »
I hope Dave & Rachel wouldn't get first place too often anymore. I like them but it would make the race boring, like what Andy & Tommy did. I want the prizes to be distributed widely as possible. So many teams will go home happy.  :<3
I just wanna see a new record.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams through TAR 20 (Ongoing)
« Reply #204 on: February 28, 2012, 02:31:15 PM »
There is a second thread that contains the source information on the team rankings.

Ranking The Teams by Season and Leg

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I think Bill & Cathy total is 53, not 50. JSYK :tup:

Great job! Anyways.

Actually the raw total should have been 55 and the average was correct, though. Fixed in other thread and here.
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Here are the teams' average placement through the first 3 of the 12 legs. I start the leaderboard trends after the next episode; teams are ranked in average placement order.:
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Team....................L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver

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Team....................L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver

Art-J.J. 3 2 1 6/3 2.0000
Rachel-Dave 1 1 6 8/3 2.6666
Brendon-Rachel 2 4 2 8/3 2.6666
Nary-Jamie 4 6 5 15/3 5.0000
Mark-Bopper 9 3 4 16/3 5.3333
Kerri-Stacy 7 5 7 19/3 6.3333
Vanessa-Ralph 5 7 8 20/3 6.6666
Joey-Danny 10 8 3 21/3 7.0000
20-09 Elliot-Andrew 6 9 9 (eliminated) 24/3 8.0000
20-10 Dave-Cherie 8 10 (eliminated) 18/2 9.0000
20-11 Misa-Maiya 11 (eliminated) 11/1 11.0000
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Figuring out the trends for several of the teams was quite easy for several of the teams, as they have the exact same average placements for at least two of the last three weeks.

And we have two groups of teams (the top 4 and the bottom 4) based on their placement averages to this point:

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Leaderboard Trends After 4 Legs:

Team............This Leg (4)....Last Leg (3)....Prior Leg (2)...First Leg (1)...Trend
Art-J.J. 1.7500 2.0000 2.5000 3.0000 slowly rising
Rachel-Dave 2.5000 2.6666 1.0000 1.0000 slowly falling
Brendon-Rachel 3.5000 2.6666 3.0000 2.0000 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 4.0000 stable
Mark-Bopper 6.0000 5.3333 6.0000 9.0000 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 6.0000 6.6666 6.0000 5.0000 stable
Joey-Danny 6.0000 7.0000 9.0000 10.0000 rising
Kerri-Stacy 6.5000 6.3333 6.0000 7.0000 slowly falling
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I would say that Kerri and Stacey are stable actually.

7 -> 6 -> 6.3 -> 6.5
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The middle pack teams are really middle while the back pack teams are really falling.


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I would say that Kerri and Stacey are stable actually.

7 -> 6 -> 6.3 -> 6.5

I have it in the correct order; the most recent leg is first reading from left to right and the least recent leg, in this case the first leg is at the right end. That column gets dropped when the next leg is placed on the left side.
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I would say that Kerri and Stacey are stable actually.

7 -> 6 -> 6.3 -> 6.5

I have it in the correct order; the most recent leg is first reading from left to right and the least recent leg, in this case the first leg is at the right end. That column gets dropped when the next leg is placed on the left side.

I know , but they are better than 7 , their worst average so far.
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If you could read Hebrew or Arabic then it wouldn't confuse you so much. 

Their average after the first leg was 7.0000. After the second leg, they finished that leg is fifth place, bring their average to 6.0000. The last two legs, that team finished in seventh place both legs, so their average went up -- to 6.3333 after the third leg and now, to 6.5000 after the most recent leg. in order to show the basis for the trend I list the average after the most recent leg first, then the prior legs in reverse chronological order. Next week, the leg one average will be dropped and you won't see it listed. the fifth leg average will then be the column posted to the left of the others and the trend label will be adjusted as appropriate at that point.

Of course, I'll drop the team that is eliminated as who cares what their trend is? They're out!
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Some movement this week, and the lowest performing team was eliminated (Kerry-Stacey):

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Leaderboard Trends After 5 Legs:

Team...........This Leg (5)...Last Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)..Prior Leg (2)..Trend
Art-J.J. 1.6000 1.7500 2.0000 2.5000 slowly rising
Rachel-Dave 2.8000 2.5000 2.6666 1.0000 slowly falling
Brendon-Rachel 3.8000 3.5000 2.6666 3.0000 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.4000 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 slowly falling
Mark-Bopper 6.0000 6.0000 5.3333 6.0000 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 5.4000 6.0000 6.6666 6.0000 slowly rising
Joey-Danny 5.2000 6.0000 7.0000 9.0000 rapidly rising
Kerri-Stacy 6.8000 6.5000 6.3333 6.0000 slowly falling
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 11:43:51 AM by theschnauzers »
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Leaderboard Trends After 6 Legs:

Team...........This Leg (6)...Last Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)..Prior Leg (3)..Trend
Art-J.J. 1.6666 1.6000 1.7500 2.0000 stable
Rachel-Dave 2.5000 2.8000 2.5000 2.6666 stable
Brendon-Rachel 3.8333 3.8000 3.5000 2.6666 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.3333 5.4000 5.0000 5.0000 stable
Mark-Bopper 5.5000 6.0000 6.0000 5.3333 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 6.6666 stable
Eliminated:
Joey-Danny 5.5000 5.2000 6.0000 7.0000 stable
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Looking at Art and JJ, slowly rising and stable disturbs me a hell lot. :(

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The two teams eliminated since Eliott-Andrew's elimination 4 legs ago, were the lowest average placement team that week.

This season is remarkable for the overall consistency we've been seeing. This is half way through the Race, and I think it's a good bet that at least two of the final three teams will be two of the teams at the top at this point. That's happened a few other times (season 1, season 9) and it's one of those seasons where only two teams have won half the legs in the Race already.

It'll be interesting to see if we ever get a leg that really shakes things up. A lot of the legs this season have had a linear quality about them. A team might have a better leg one week and fall back, or have a poor leg, and then rebound, but the overall lack of shifting placements is really surprising.
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What I really find interesting is that there are times when all the teams are grouped together, and even then the teams all seem to fall into the same basic order. I think the only ways there will be any real shake up is if a Road Block was a luck task or if the "better" teams got on a flight that arrived after the "not better" teams.

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What I really find interesting is that there are times when all the teams are grouped together, and even then the teams all seem to fall into the same basic order. I think the only ways there will be any real shake up is if a Road Block was a luck task or if the "better" teams got on a flight that arrived after the "not better" teams.

I can't help but to agree with this. Art and JJ and Dave and Rachel are really "good" and "competitive" racers as compared to the other "mediocre" teams this season.

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I hope Dave & Rachel wouldn't get first place too often anymore. I like them but it would make the race boring, like what Andy & Tommy did. I want the prizes to be distributed widely as possible. So many teams will go home happy.  :<3

 :lol: You got your wish and Art and JJ won the next 3 legs. :lol:

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Some movement among the bottom three, but we still have two teams finishing the leg with a tied average placement, and there's a sign of very slow momentum among the top three teams;

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[size=6pt]Leaderboard Trends After 7 Legs:

Team............This Leg (7)....Last Leg (6)....Prior Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)...Trend

Art-J.J. 1.8571 1.6666 1.6000 1.7500 slowly falling
Rachel-Dave 2.2857 2.5000 2.8000 2.5000 slowly rising
Brendon-Rachel 3.8571 3.8333 3.8000 3.5000 slowly falling
Mark-Bopper 5.0000 5.5000 6.0000 6.0000 rising
Vanessa-Ralph 5.4285 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 stable
Nary-Jamie 5.4285 5.3333 5.4000 5.0000 stable


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No real change in the relative trends, except that Nary-Jamie break the three-way near tie among the bottom three by being eliminated, and had the lowest placement average doing so.

The top three remain in the same order although it is tightening up a little. But all of the teams have had very slow trends this season, and that continues:

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Leaderboard Trends After 8 Legs:

Team...........This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Prior Leg (5)..Trend

Art-J.J. 2.0000 1.8571 1.6666 1.6000 slowly falling
Rachel-Dave 2.2500 2.2857 2.5000 2.8000 slowly rising
Brendon-Rachel 3.8750 3.8571 3.8333 3.8000 stable
Mark-Bopper 4.5000 5.0000 5.5000 6.0000 slowly rising
Vanessa-Ralph 5.3750 5.4285 5.5000 5.4000 slowly falling
Eliminated:
Nary-Jamie 5.5000 5.4285 5.3333 5.4000 stable
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 04:29:14 PM by theschnauzers »
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I think for Vanessa & Ralph you meant to type 5.375 rather than 5.735, which would make them stable.

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Yea, that was a typo in transferring the data manually.  Thanks
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Hmm , you didn't change them to stable...
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Looking at four legs, yes, one might describe them as stable, but over the last three legs, it is a very slow rise. Last week, stable within a range was a more apt description. It's borderline either way. But there are only five teams left, so all of the averages are likely to slowly rise for the rest of the Race, if the teams keep the current order, as they have for a while.
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