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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, UPDATING for TAR 17
« Reply #150 on: December 14, 2010, 05:56:07 PM »
I'll be updating the list with TAR 17 in the next few days as I have time. If anything like that needs to be fixed, I'll address it then.

With a new puppy to watch over and having to rearrange some things because of the blizzard this past weekend, I haven't been able to work on that, and I'd rather make sure I'm wide awake and clear headed.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Final Update for TAR 17
« Reply #151 on: December 19, 2010, 03:08:07 PM »
The full rankings list with the final averages for TAR 17 teams, is now shown in the first post.

I'll have a special list in the TAR 18 Spoilers Forum with the original placement averages of just those teams shortly.
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For TAR:UB, I'll be using this thread as I have the two prior seasons, updating the average placement of all the teams, and their trends starting with episode 2 or 3.

The special TAR:UB ranking thread will be used to compare each team to their placement average in their original season and see if there's any similar pattern that I observed in TARAS.

That's one way to make sure its an apple to apple, orange to orange comparison this time around.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Updating for TAR 18:UB
« Reply #153 on: February 06, 2011, 08:54:10 PM »
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09-02 Eric/Jeremy   22/13   1.6923
15-01 Meghan/Cheyne   24/12   2.0000
14-01 Tammy/Victor   27/12   2.2500
07-02 Rob/Amber    30/13   2.3076
01-02 Frank/Margarita   31/13   2.3846
06-02 Kris/Jon        31/13   2.3846
10-01Tyler/James    31/13   2.3846
13-01 Nick/Starr      27/11   2.4545
01-01 Rob/Brennan   32/13   2.4615
05-02 Colin/Christie   32/13   2.4615

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Updating for TAR 18:UB
« Reply #154 on: February 06, 2011, 09:20:21 PM »
Looking at the list again, i just realized that Tammy and Victor had such good averages and it didn't once occur to me that they're that competitive!! I guess the impression that they screw up Leg 3 still lingers in my head more..
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Updating for TAR 18:UB
« Reply #155 on: February 06, 2011, 11:45:59 PM »
Dont forget that Leg 3, for Tammy/Victor, started out with the emergency landing of their flight to Romania......that had to shake them up.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Updating for TAR 18:UB
« Reply #156 on: February 06, 2011, 11:59:35 PM »
Dont forget that Leg 3, for Tammy/Victor, started out with the emergency landing of their flight to Romania......that had to shake them up.

It was a BAD BAD LEG for them.... :lol:
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams, Updating for TAR 18:UB
« Reply #157 on: February 28, 2011, 04:48:29 PM »
If T/V had WON Leg 3 rather than placing 8th, they'd be the highest-ranked team thus far, with a 1.67.
If they'd placed 2nd or 3rd, they would be 2nd, ahead of Meghan/Cheyne, as they would if you threw out Leg 3 altogether. If they'd placed 4th, they would be TIED for 2nd with Meghan/Cheyne.

T/v recovered well from their communication difficulties in Leg 3, and their competitiveness does kind of sneak up on you. I don't recall them making any major goofs beyond that leg.

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I said I'd have this up by the weekend, and I am.

I'm projecting the last two placements for leg 4 because of the TBC, but I feel confident that I've those two right.  But consider those two tentative for now, although it would not affect the trendline for the first four legs that much.

Leaderboard Trends After 4 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (4)...Last Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)..First Leg (2)..Trend

15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................3.5000.........2.0000.........2.5000.........4.0000.........Rising Slowly
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Malloy...................3.7500.........4.0000.........5.0000.........1.0000.........Dropping
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................4.0000.........3.6666.........3.5000.........3.0000.........Dropping Slowly   
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.5000.........4.0000.........5.0000.........3.5000.........Dropping Slowly
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke...................5.2500.........6.6666.........6.0000.........7.0000.........Rising
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord......................5.5000.........6.6666.........7.0000.........11.0000........Rising Rapidly
12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina..............6.2500.........7.0000.........9.0000.........8.0000.........Rising
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime....................7.5000.........7.6666.........7.0000.........6.0000.........Dropping
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................8.2500.........8.0000.........8.5000.........10.0000........Rising
      

14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........2.0000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........9.0000.........(Eliminated)
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 10:56:33 PM by theschnauzers »
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We can see some trends emerging with the fifth leg completed.

Jet-Cord, who started slowly in their original season and then picked up steam, once again started slowly this season, and are again generating a rapid rise in their placement average.
Zev-Justin are dropping quickly after a strong start.
Gary-Mallory and Margie-Luke are slowly gaining ground. (G-M might be described as "stable.")
The Globetrotters started well but are now in a dropping trendline.
Hard to say whether the trendlines for Ron-Christina and Kent-Vxysen are slowly rising on merit or because there are fewer teams. They are bringing up the rear, though, especially Kent-Vxysen.



Leaderboard Trends After 5 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (5)...Last Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)..Trend
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Malloy...................3.4000.........3.7500.........4.0000.........Stable or Rising Slowly
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................4.0000.........4.0000.........3.6666.........Stable or Dropping Slowly
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................4.4000.........3.5000.........2.0000.........Dropping Rapidly
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord......................4.6000.........5.5000.........6.6666.........Rising Rapidly      
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.8000.........4.5000.........4.0000.........Dropping Slowly
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke...................4.8000.........5.2500.........6.6666.........Rising
12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina..............6.4000.........6.2500.........7.0000.........Rising Slowly
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................7.6000.........8.2500.........8.0000.........Stable or Rising Slowly
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)
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The trends that we saw after the previous leg continued after this last leg.  Jet and Cord now have the second-best average placement of the season to date, similar to how they performed in their first season, and we're at the half-way point (6 legs of 12.) Gary and Mallory are also improving week by week in their placement average, but they did better in the first leg than Jet and Cord.
Ron and Christina and Kent and Vxyzen's average placements are improving slowly because of the presence of fewer teams on each of the last two legs. But they clearly are bringing up the rear of the remaining teams. The placement averages of the other three remaining teams are falling slowly and these three seem to be moving as a pack.

Leaderboard Trends After 6 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (6)...Last Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)..Trend
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Malloy...................3.0000.........3.4000.........3.7500.........Rising
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord......................4.1666.........4.6000.........5.5000.........Rising Rapidly    
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................4.3333.........4.0000.........4.0000.........Dropping Slowly
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................4.3333.........4.4000.........3.5000.........Dropping Slowly
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........5.1666.........4.8000.........4.5000.........Dropping Slowly
12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina..............5.8333.........6.4000.........6.2500.........Rising Slowly
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................7.1666.........7.6000.........8.2500.........Rising Slowly

14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke.................................................5.3333.........(Eliminated)
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)
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There was some minor shuffling among the three teams whose average placements are closely bunched together, while one of the two poorly performing teams was eliminated.

I'm still considering trying to compute the final placement ranges for those teams that are left once we get past the final non-elimination pitstop, but it would be too complicated to try to do it before then.  Not to mention that the final two legs are being aired the same night, which means we'll have to deal with projecting at least four teams no matter what.

Anyhow here are the averages for the TAR:UB teams through leg 7 of 12:

Leaderboard Trends After 7 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (7)...Last Leg (6)...Prior Leg (5)..Trend
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Mallory...................3.1428      3.0000.........3.4000.........Rising
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................4.0000      4.3333.........4.4000.........Dropping Slowly
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................4.1428      4.3333.........4.0000.........Dropping Slowly
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord......................4.2857      4.1666.........4.6000.........Rising Slowly
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.5714      5.1666.........4.8000.........Dropping Slowly
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................7.0000      7.1666.........7.6000.........Rising Slowly

12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina............................................6.0000.........(Eliminated)
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke.................................................5.3333.........(Eliminated)
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)
« Last Edit: April 13, 2011, 10:34:31 PM by theschnauzers »
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just a minor detail:
you have GM listed as Gary-Malloy
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just a minor detail:
you have GM listed as Gary-Malloy
Fixed.
That's what happens with 6 point type. Which has to be used to fix things within one line on the screen.
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Leaderboard Trends After 8 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Trend
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Malloy...................3.5000.........3.1428.........3.0000.........Dropping Slowly
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................3.6250.........4.0000.........4.3333.........Rising Slowly
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................4.1250.........4.1428.........4.3333.........Rising Slowly
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.2500.........4.5714.........5.1666.........Rising Slowly
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord......................4.3750.........4.2857.........4.1666.........Stable   
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................6.5000.........7.0000.........7.1666.........Rising Slowly

12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina............................................6.0000.........(Eliminated)
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke.................................................5.3333.........(Eliminated)
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)
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what's your criteria for deciding between slowly and rapidly?
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Basically the value of the movement in placement points up or down (slowly would be well less than one placement, rapidly would be clearly more than one placement point; it can be hard to quantify if teams are bouncing up one week and down the next, so that can influence the characterization. Stable usually means a very narrow range of movemene over the course of the three leg placements being used.
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Leaderboard Trends After 9 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (9)...Last Leg (8 )...Prior Leg (7)..Trend
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................3.3333.........3.6250.........4.0000.........Rising Slowly
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Malloy...................3.5555.........3.5000.........3.1428.........Dropping Slowly
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................3.8888.........4.1250.........4.1428.........Rising Slowly
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.3333.........4.2500.........4.5714.........Stable
12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin...................6.1111.........6.5000.........7.0000.........Rising Slowly


16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord....................................................4.5555.........(Eliminated)
12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina............................................6.0000.........(Eliminated)
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke.................................................5.3333.........(Eliminated)
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)
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you have the Malloy type-o in all of your tables
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That was a mistake in the original I use for the boilerplate, it'll be fized for the final version of this season's tables.

Making sure the numbers are right and the calculations are correct is more important at this point, not to mention that I don't think anyone is being misled by the typo.
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Leaderboard Trends After 10 Legs:

Team.........................................This Leg (10)..Last Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8 )..Trend
15-09 6.0000    Zev-Justin ...................3.4000.........3.3333.........3.6250.........Stable
17-06 4.6250    Gary-Mallory..................3.5000.........3.5555.........3.5000.........Stable
14-04 4.2727    Kisha-Jen.....................3.7000.........3.8888.........4.1250.........Rising Slowly
15-04 3.0909    Flight Time-Big Easy..........4.0000.........4.3333.........4.2500.........Stable

12-05 3.6250    Kent-Vyxsin.................................................6.000..........(Eliminated)
16-02 2.5833    Jet-Cord....................................................4.5555.........(Eliminated)
12-02 3.4545    Ronald-Christina............................................6.0000.........(Eliminated)
14-03 2.7500    Margie-Luke.................................................5.3333.........(Eliminated)
14-02 3.9166    Cara-Jaime..................................................7.8000.........(Eliminated)
14-08 4.5000    Amanda-Kris.................................................6.5000.........(Eliminated)
14-06 3.5714    Mel-Mike....................................................7.5000.........(Eliminated)


Obviously with the final teo legs airing back-to-back next week, there won't be an updated interim average after 11 legs, just the final result for the season that will be used to update the main list.  I can tell you that except for the Trotters, the other teams can end the season with the best placement average overall. The worse any of those three teams can complete the season is with a 3.7500 placement average; the best is a 3.0000 average.
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Here are the final averages for the teams of TAR Unfinished Business.

They'll be incorporated into the primary list soon, and I'll change the thread header when that's done.

Code: [Select]
Original Season
Place Average Team.................... L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
14-04 4.2727 18-01 Kisha-Jen 3 4 4 5 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 1 40/12 3.3333
15-04 3.0909 18-02 Flight Time-Big Easy 5 2 5 6 6 7 1 2 5 1 3 2 45/12 3.7500
17-06 4.6250 18-03 Gary-Mallory 1 9 2 3 2 1 4 6 4 3 1 3 39/12 3.2500
15-09 6.0000 18-04 Zev-Justin 4 1 1 8 8 4 2 1 1 4 4 (eliminated) 38/11 3.4545
12-05 3.6250 18-05 Kent-Vyxsin 10 7 7 9 5 5 6 3 3 5 (eliminated) 60/10 6.0000
16-02 2.5833 18-06 Jet-Cord 11 3 6 2 1 2 5 5 6 (eliminated) 41/9 4.5555
12-02 3.4545 18-07 Ronald-Christina 8 10 3 4 7 3 7 (eliminated) 42/7 6.0000
14-03 2.7500 18-08 Margie-Luke 7 5 8 1 3 8 (eliminated) 32/6 5.3333
14-02 3.9166 18-09 Cara-Jaime 6 8 9 7 9 (eliminated) 39/5 7.8000
14-06 3.5714 18-10 Mel-Mike         9 6 10 (eliminated) 25/3 8.3333
14-08 4.5000 18-11 Amanda-Kris 2 11 (eliminated) 13/2 6.5000
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I hadn't planned to take weeks, but such as it is.

The rankings are now updated to including the final average placements for the teams that returned for TAR:Unfinished Business (season 18). Some interesting tidbits in the final averages. With the exception of the winners, none of the teams came within one placement of their average from their original season. The best performing team, Gary and Mallory, came in third. The last place team, Kris and Amanda, have the best performance average of any last place team ever; probably due to the fact that the first leg was an NEL. I'm sure there some other interesting statistics there, but thaose were the ones I noticed in updating the main list in the first post. (And yes, I can now correctly state than in the first ten years of TAR, not counting any regional editions elsewhere, there have been 378 Racers.)
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Time to prepare for the in-season ranking tracking updates for season 19.

Something to note -- with season 19, we have now had 400 people run the Race at least once. I'll let someone else figure out how many cities and miles that represents. but it has got to be enough to go to the Moon and back several times over.

I expect to start this after episode 2 or 3, depending on how those Race legs are structured (i.e., normal legs, NEL legs, no rest period pit stop legs, what have you.)
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I'll be compiling and organizing the information over the next couple of days, now that my notebook is back.  It's very difficult to do this using a tablet, especially since I can't use my Word Perfect files.
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