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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #200 on: November 08, 2009, 01:52:30 PM »
In rewatching the TAR 6 footage, it seemed to me that the clue packets are not buried in the layers of the straw as a bale is unrolled, but is on the surface of a layer as it is exposed.

That could just be editing, but that seemed to be the only constant I saw from the footage.
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #201 on: November 08, 2009, 02:50:02 PM »
Has anyone found the Hours of Operation for Grona Lunds?  The only times I could locate (in English) were 12:00AM to 11:00PM.  Typo? or just really odd hours of operation?

Odd hours? Why Odd?

It just seems odd to me to open at Midnight, and close at 11:00PM.  I wondered if they meant 12:00PM (noon) instead.

1st of July they open 11 in the morning and close 10 in the evening. Quite normal for a place like that

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2009, 02:52:02 PM »
Not that it matters but the date we are looking for is August 1st 2009 ^^

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #203 on: November 08, 2009, 03:30:14 PM »

The only strategies I can think of for this task are:   (and we've had 5 years to think about it  :groan:)


2)  Unroll the haybales towards the road. The advantage is to have the sun light shining on your back so the revealed clue will catch more light and be more likely to be spotted.  It looks overcast in the promos but the brightest light still comes from the direction from where the sun is.  From the promos, it looks like the sun is in the southwest shining perpendicular to the road (3pm ish).

Good luck  :tup:

The unrolling towards the road sounds good if you choose bales that are already pointed that direction.  Turning/spinning one of the very heavy round bales will not be possible.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2009, 04:34:07 PM »
finally a sports promo and this is all thats new

Brian and Gary at the haybales together


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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2009, 04:44:44 PM »
weather underground
10:50 AM 62.6 F  57.2 F  82% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  West 3.5 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
11:20 AM 60.8 F  59.0 F  94% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  NW 5.8 mph  -  N/A Rain  Light Rain Showers
11:50 AM 62.6 F  59.0 F  88% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  WNW 5.8 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
12:50 PM 64.4 F  59.0 F  83% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  WNW 3.5 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
1:50 PM 66.2 F  57.2 F  73% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  North 4.6 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
2:20 PM 66.2 F  57.2 F  73% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  SSE 4.6 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
2:50 PM 66.2 F  55.4 F  68% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  SSW 4.6 mph  -  N/A    Scattered Clouds
3:20 PM 66.2 F  57.2 F  73% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  South 8.1 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
3:50 PM 64.4 F  55.4 F  73% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  NNE 11.5 mph  -  N/A    Mostly Cloudy
4:20 PM 64.4 F  55.4 F  73% 29.92 in  6.2 miles  NNE 5.8 mph  -  N/A    Scattered Clouds
4:50 PM 66.2 F  57.2 F  73% 29.92 in  -  East 4.6 mph  -  N/A    Clear
5:20 PM 66.2 F  57.2 F  73% 29.92 in  -  SE 4.6 mph  -  N/A    Clear
5:50 PM 66.2 F  55.4 F  68% 29.95 in  -  SW 3.5 mph  -  N/A    Clear
6:20 PM 68.0 F  57.2 F  68% 29.95 in  6.2 miles  ENE 3.5 mph  -  N/A    Partly Cloudy

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2009, 06:06:49 PM »
From the promos, it looks as if several teams are ready to take a 4-hour penalty... which could get very interesting.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2009, 07:12:44 PM »
From the promos, it looks as if several teams are ready to take a 4-hour penalty... which could get very interesting.

Mass Roadblock refusal. Not the first time it's happened, but I agree. Could be quite interesting to see what happens.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2009, 07:30:13 PM »
Actual flight info, I die of shock.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2009, 08:57:54 PM »
The actual flight information would be unknown for arrival of KL1107 in Stockholm. Departure was 17 minutes late but it could ahve made up time. I would guesstimate arrival around 0900 for the first 3 teams. KL1109 departed a littlelate but arrived 4 minutes early at 1121am. The Saturday/Sunday schedule for the Arlanda Express train to downtown Stockholm's 20 minute ride is 5, 20, 35 and 50 after every hour, which confirms Gary's Statement that it is every 15 minutes.

Sicne the camera/sound crew has to get their equipment before teams can leave the airport, I believe the train that Sam/Dan got was 935am and the one Herb/Nate got was 950am and the one Brian/Ericka got was 1150am and the one Gary/Matt got was 1205pm.

The ferry to Grona Lund goes takes only 5 minutes from Gamla Stand to Djurgarden Island. You can also get there from Slusseen Island in 8 minutes. Which one was correct for teams to get to Grona Lund? I don't know and may not be able to get appropraite information on this.

I have a map of Djurgarden with Tivoli Grona Lund in the loswer left side of the island. The ferry route from Gamla Stan on the left side is obvious but the one form Slussen is not:





Here is a statement about the bus routes to the Silja ferry to Tallinn:
The Tallink-Silja ferries arrive at Frihamnen close to central Stockholm every day from Helsinki, Turku, Tallinn and Riga. From Frihamnen you can get to the Grdet subway station or take busses number 1, 72 or 76 to central Stockholm. More information about stops and timetables can be found on SLs website www.sl.se.



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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #210 on: November 08, 2009, 09:04:26 PM »
Thanks apskip!!

Here is what I had on the arrival time for KL 1107. looks like it arrived on time at 855.



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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #211 on: November 08, 2009, 09:08:39 PM »
Peach:

Please look again. Do you see the words ACTUAL like for the departure time. No, you don't. That is almost surely because your source does not know that one factoid when thye do know the departure time was 712am, 17 minutes late.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #212 on: November 08, 2009, 09:12:55 PM »
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Sicne the camera/sound crew has to get their equipment before teams can leave the airport, I believe the train that Sam/Dan got was 935am and the one Herb/Nate got was 950am and the one Brian/Ericka got was 1150am and the one Gary/Matt got was 1205pm.

Hey Apskip, the camera/sound crew take all their stuff into the cabin just like everybody else!  No delays are incurred on their behalf.
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #213 on: November 08, 2009, 09:14:18 PM »
oops you are  right, they don't have actual. I can ask our source herself if she remembers though, maybe she will?
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #214 on: November 08, 2009, 09:26:20 PM »
Jf anything, the haybale roadblock this time was even more difficult, if for no other reason than they had to find TAR flags, and not clue envelopes in plastic sheaths. Those were bigger, flatter, and easier to see/feel than the flags.

What was the purpose for winning the gnomes this time? They all got to the Amazing Mat, but no explanation. And no explanation why Sam/Dan's gnome had a big red "X" on the bottom, and not the others, once the detour clue was removed.
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #215 on: November 08, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »
It's time for some statistics. The average probability of a hit with 7 flags and 186 bales is 3.76% per attempt assuming that all teams left no clues in their bales. That means that it would take an average of 26.6 tries  before a team found one flag. Although it could vary as flags are actually found, on average it would still stay roughly the same unless there was a "run on the bank". Sam with over 100 tries would have taken 4 times the average. Somebody has to be above average and others below average because that the way a random task works. It is hard to say how long it took to unroll each bale and get to the next one. My guess is that it was about 2 minutes per try. That means that the average time to complete would be about 53 minutes. Meghan reported 2 hours plus. Gary had 2 hours 45 minutes for his. Sam took longer than Meghan and probably longer than Matt. Maybe 3 hours? Big Easy took a short time and so did Brian.

In comparison to the AR6 Ep. 3 Lena effort, the original specs were for 20 clues in 270 bales with 9 teams. This time there were more bales and fewer clues when the number of teams were equalized. The statistics for the original ROADBLOCK were 7.4% hit rate, almost exactly twice the percentage for AR15 ep. 8. The number of bales were 30 per team originally and 37.2 for AR15. On any measure, AR15 Ep.8 was consdeirably tougher than the original.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2009, 09:40:03 PM »
Could I request caps for the Arlanda train station? I think we saw a couple of clocks there! ;D
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2009, 09:43:30 PM »
Could I request caps for the Arlanda train station? I think we saw a couple of clocks there! ;D
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #218 on: November 08, 2009, 09:49:39 PM »
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #219 on: November 08, 2009, 09:53:51 PM »
this shown when the trotters catch their train

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #220 on: November 08, 2009, 09:56:53 PM »
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #221 on: November 08, 2009, 10:00:53 PM »
........ on the outside looking in

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #222 on: November 08, 2009, 10:07:37 PM »
Jf anything, the haybale roadblock this time was even more difficult, if for no other reason than they had to find TAR flags, and not clue envelopes in plastic sheaths. Those were bigger, flatter, and easier to see/feel than the flags.

What was the purpose for winning the gnomes this time? They all got to the Amazing Mat, but no explanation. And no explanation why Sam/Dan's gnome had a big red "X" on the bottom, and not the others, once the detour clue was removed.

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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #223 on: November 08, 2009, 10:25:59 PM »
Maybe the Big RED X was no more than double sided tape holding the clue in place?
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Re: TAR15 EP8: "This is the Worst Thing Ive Ever Done in My Life"
« Reply #224 on: November 08, 2009, 10:30:23 PM »
Wow u all guys are so observant..  :ascared
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