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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2009, 08:09:32 PM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:



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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2009, 10:44:34 PM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:


That would be cool, too! It would be cool if they had a flashback where Phil says: "Teams must now travel to the site of the infamous hay bale Roadblock, where Lena struggled for several hours to find the clue hidden inside." Complete with footage from S6 and everything!

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2009, 03:41:41 AM »
No fair.  I wanted to be the first Aspie on the show, not Zev!
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2009, 05:32:42 AM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:


That would be cool, too! It would be cool if they had a flashback where Phil says: "Teams must now travel to the site of the infamous hay bale Roadblock, where Lena struggled for several hours to find the clue hidden inside." Complete with footage from S6 and everything!

Here's an idea: (COMPLETELY spec) the "Switchback" is offered with a Roadblock where instead of performing the current Roadblock, you perform one of the past season's Roadblocks instead and if you do it successfully, you can skip certain tasks. With this format, they can all accommodate the cyclos in Vietnam, the nuts in Dubai, the haybales in Sweden and the pole vault in Amsterdam. Once again though, completely spec. Hope I made that clear. :funny:
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 06:08:56 AM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:


That would be cool, too! It would be cool if they had a flashback where Phil says: "Teams must now travel to the site of the infamous hay bale Roadblock, where Lena struggled for several hours to find the clue hidden inside." Complete with footage from S6 and everything!

And then Tiffany or Maria suffering the same fate as Lena!  :groan: Now that would be harsh especially since it seems like they are eliminated that leg!


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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2009, 09:09:14 AM »
I could just see CBS putting a Lena look alike in the field, to fruitlessly search through hay bales next to whichever team that got sent there... But then again, I have a very cruel sense of humour. (Note: Speculation)

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2009, 08:00:08 PM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:

I'm gonna smack BVM hard if he has to remind me of Lena and Kristy's elimination. (:;) (:;) (:;)
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2009, 08:17:15 PM »
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Häggvik, Sweden

The question is how far is that from Stockholm, and would the teams have the time to go there, given that the task was open-ended as to duration. (As evidenced by the 8(?) hours Lena took originally and Phil's out-on-the-field elimination.) If there isn't enough time between the pit stop in the Netherlands to boarding the ferry to Tallin, then that would be a negative.  This comes down to how long the teams had in Sweden, and as far as I know, we don't have a complete handle on that.
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2009, 08:34:54 PM »
I think we do know how long teams had in Sweden though.

We KNOW that at least one team flew on  August 1st taking KL 1107 6:55 am, arriving in Stockholm at 8:55 am.

Teams were then seen on the ferry from Stockholm to Tallinn on August 2nd, ferry leaves at 5:45 pm and arrives at 10:00 am

So about 33 hours right?

I will have to go watch the former haybales episode because I don't remember how far away the farm was.

According to mapquest, there are 2  Häggvik's, one about 20 minutes away and one +5 hours away, so a big difference there.

http://europe.mapquest.com/directions/europe.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&qq=hltF3hzNT9vgCYgFpG%252fDI6Zd139xgLqWl5mHnyn%252b%252b8o%253d&ct=EU&rsres=1&1y=SE&1a=B%C3%B6gs+G%C3%A4rd+farm+%2C&1c=+H%C3%A4ggvik&1z=&2y=SE&2a=&2c=stockholm&2z=&r=f
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2009, 01:17:37 AM »
BVM invented the haybales task, and has said publicly he LOVED this task, even with how it ended.

Yes, I could definintely see this being the EPIC Roadblock . :groan:


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If so, then LENA darned well better get to be the greeter!!! :yess:

I'm gonna smack BVM hard if he has to remind me of Lena and Kristy's elimination. (:;) (:;) (:;)

It saved Don & Mary Jean, so it's all good. :funny: :funny:
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2009, 07:50:16 AM »
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Häggvik, Sweden

The question is how far is that from Stockholm, and would the teams have the time to go there, given that the task was open-ended as to duration. (As evidenced by the 8(?) hours Lena took originally and Phil's out-on-the-field elimination.) If there isn't enough time between the pit stop in the Netherlands to boarding the ferry to Tallin, then that would be a negative.  This comes down to how long the teams had in Sweden, and as far as I know, we don't have a complete handle on that.

I don't think teams necessarily will return to the EXACT spot of the original hay bale task. They could go to any field in Sweden. After all, the casual viewer will think "oh yeah, I remember those hay bales in Sweden," not "wait, wasn't the original task in Häggvik?"

And BVM isn't exactly a stickler for details on things like this.

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2009, 07:52:18 AM »
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Don't even bother finding which Haggvik is which. We know that teams took train and bicycle out to Haggvik and that Phil came out for the in-the-field elimination of Lena/Kristy. It has to be the 20 minute away one. Phil could not have gotten from the ship in Stockholm harbor after checking in all other teams to Haggvik if it were 5 hours away.
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2009, 12:50:38 PM »
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Häggvik, Sweden

The question is how far is that from Stockholm, and would the teams have the time to go there, given that the task was open-ended as to duration. (As evidenced by the 8(?) hours Lena took originally and Phil's out-on-the-field elimination.) If there isn't enough time between the pit stop in the Netherlands to boarding the ferry to Tallin, then that would be a negative.  This comes down to how long the teams had in Sweden, and as far as I know, we don't have a complete handle on that.

I don't think teams necessarily will return to the EXACT spot of the original hay bale task. They could go to any field in Sweden. After all, the casual viewer will think "oh yeah, I remember those hay bales in Sweden," not "wait, wasn't the original task in Häggvik?"

And BVM isn't exactly a stickler for details on things like this.

Given the fact that Bertram was being quite clear about the concept of going back to the scene of the original roadblock task as part of the "Flashback," I;m not going to assume he's being deceptive. TPTB wouldn't need to even call it a "Flashback" if the task wasn't in the same location.

I'm pretty sure this is going to be a giant curve ball for these Racers and future Racers because it will be another level of uncertainty teams will have to prepare for pre-Race unless they're familar with the history of the Race.

The only other roadblock that I can think of that might qualify is the driving roadblock in Tokyo a couple of seasons back. It also meets the stricter paramaters I think need to be applied (teams are in Tokyo, and the task was difficult because of the navagation issues for the teams (as was the HCMC roadblock in TAR 3.) I can't think of any other places that stand out as possibilities.
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2009, 02:59:38 PM »
The only other roadblock that I can think of that might qualify is the driving roadblock in Tokyo a couple of seasons back. It also meets the stricter paramaters I think need to be applied (teams are in Tokyo, and the task was difficult because of the navagation issues for the teams (as was the HCMC roadblock in TAR 3.) I can't think of any other places that stand out as possibilities.

Well, yes, but was it infamous? No. In my mind it is too fresh in our minds to qualify. And yet despite how recent it was, it isn't one of the first Roadblocks that comes to my head.

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Teams fortunate enough to avoid the surprise elimination and compete for the $ 1 million prize will face the "Switchback," which sends Teams back to the site of one of the series' most infamous Roadblocks, as well as a surprise appearance by one of America's most beloved entertainers, a visit to the world's tallest building and a spicy twist on a Japanese game show.

The teams may not even have to do the Roadblock task, but simply visit the location of the task. That's how I read this.
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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2009, 12:02:31 AM »
possibly the roadblock wasn't there,like raymond said, the argentina meat roadblock again, but not in argentina.Just think,which roadblock was random,=.I'd say eating caviar or an ostrich egg!
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2009, 06:34:10 AM »

Contestants will travel one of the fastest courses ever assembled on the Race - spanning eight countries in just 21 days.  Season 15 also features the quickest elimination in the history of the series, sending one Team home before they leave the starting line.  Teams fortunate enough to avoid the surprise elimination and compete for the $ 1 million prize will face the "Switchback," which sends Teams back to the site of one of the series' most infamous Roadblocks, as well as a surprise appearance by one of America's most beloved entertainers, a visit to the world's tallest building and a spicy twist on a Japanese game show.   

 

"This season we wanted to keep the Racers and our fans on their toes and make sure no one gets too comfortable," stated Bertram van Munster, Executive Producer and Co-Creator of THE AMAZING RACE.  "We're adding some new surprise elements including our quickest elimination ever as well as revisiting one of the most challenging Roadblocks our Teams have ever encountered during our past 15 seasons."


Quoting this from puddin over the Sightings and Locations

With new information about revisiting the meanest roadblock... I'm really scared about Stockholm right now...

*Gets the Lena and Kristy vibes*

If indeed it is... it would be painful for the girls to actually watch it again (if they still watch TAR)

And eight countries?

Hmmm...

Japan
Vietnam
Cambodia
United Arab Emirates = Tallest Building
Netherlands
Sweden
Estonia
Czech Republic

Is USA not counted in the articles?

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2009, 03:02:09 AM »
some people at amazing race page ( facebook ) said that the yoga teacher's was eliminated at starting line . it is true ? thx ^^

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2009, 04:22:58 AM »
:welcome: to RFF!

You can catch up by reading the page one summaries on each of these threads:

Contestants:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,19007.0.html

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http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.0.html
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2009, 05:08:08 AM »
if I read it correctly, the switchback is in the first leg...

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2009, 05:15:52 AM »
if I read it correctly, the switchback is in the first leg...

me too!

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Teams fortunate enough to avoid the surprise elimination and compete for the $ 1 million prize will face the "Switchback," which sends Teams back to the site of one of the series' most infamous Roadblocks

it might just be bad wording from the writers but it definitely seems like teams that survive the start line elimination will all face the switchback

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2009, 06:12:49 AM »
:welcome: to RFF!

You can catch up by reading the page one summaries on each of these threads:

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http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,19007.0.html

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http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.0.html

i've read this ^^  thx ^^

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2009, 09:20:27 AM »
Here's a novel thought for the scenario where the infamous haybales task is replicated:

It all depends on the ratio of clues to hay bales. The reason that most teams finished quickly was that the field started with 20 clues in about 270 bales. That gave each team  a 1/13.5 or 7.4% chance at getting one. That means they would have to unroll just 14 bales on average to find a clue. The odds on unrolling over 100 bales and not finding one are astronomical; it would not have happened if Lena was efficient in seeing clues in some of her bales, as there were 12 clues left after all other teams had finished and there should have been approximately 270 - 8 X 13.5 = 162 bales left. Up until that point, her odds of finding a clue in a bale (assuming efficiency on her part) were higher, but even then it had to be something like 12/162 on each try or still 7.4% each try. It should again take her on average at that point only another 14 bales to finish.

So, if you were Bertrand van Munster (who is really a very clever guy), what would you do if you needed to assure that a repeat of the Lena debacle did not happen again? You would increase the ratio of clues to bales, that's what you would do. Doing so would decrease the differentiation between teams coming out of this task, but that's OK since it will be a total BUNCHING for the ferry anyway. Even if they used the original ratio, it should still not take very long for all teams to finish.

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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2009, 09:36:13 AM »
I read the switchback as :

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And very true, apskip!!
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2009, 09:44:20 AM »
Here's a novel thought for the scenario where the infamous haybales task is replicated:


The haybale task was complete whack! I can recall playing a game of that over at ********Times and losing my head. Too bad the game's gone already.
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Re: START LINE ELIMINATION AND NEW TWIST IN THE RACE
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2009, 09:48:51 AM »
I think the only MORE infamous task was the Broken Ox...but unless they recreate that in the Philippines I think Haybales it is. One of the finest examples of "never give up" in TAR history.

I think the ferry/Flo task would not be as well known to the casual viewer, but the Ox and the Haybales certainly are. JMO though...
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