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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #700 on: August 11, 2009, 06:11:49 PM »
Boingo, they may have been going to catch a taxi at the front of the Venetian. It'd be the fastest way to get one hailed and I'm sure they could skip the line if they told everyone they were in a race...

I suspect the clue box that the decoys are running to is in the Vegas version of the Rialto Bridge:   Wikipedia



Remember we were told the teams were going to a foot bridge.
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« Reply #701 on: August 11, 2009, 06:18:25 PM »
Screams decoys to me thats for you all to decide  ;D

I think you're right on this one.  How could TPTB expect the final three to go unnoticed in Las Vegas in the middle of the day?

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« Reply #702 on: August 11, 2009, 06:20:38 PM »
hmmm...interesting... here's a racers view of said bridge in Vegas....

..only thing, would WRP need a filming permit from the county to film something on private property i.e. Venetian Casino Resort property)?

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« Reply #703 on: August 11, 2009, 08:38:02 PM »
nothing we didn't already know but for good measure


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Was filmed at GrönaLund on Saturday August first! We were there celebrating my son's birthday and we noticed people running around with big back packs on their backs and I jokingly said, gosh you'd think it was the amazing race... AND LOW AND BEHOLD... out comes the clue box, a person jumps on Tilt, comes down and screams it is at the rocket jet or whatever it was called and off they go running for the next clue!

Very fun to see it in action!
   

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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #704 on: August 11, 2009, 09:17:08 PM »
Maybe its me really wanting this  to be real, but the pink haired team was running really hard in 100+ heat if they werent actually racing for something.  There would be no incentive for me to run in that weather unless I was getting a million dollars.  Are we sure thats an actual checked bag tag?  When I flew internationally, they tagged my carry on as well.


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« Reply #705 on: August 11, 2009, 09:23:21 PM »
Hey, you saw 2 of the teams! I would love to have that happen to me, even if they were decoys. Not a lot of people get to see what you did.

Sadly, we're pretty sure they are decoys. Bags don't get checked during the race, the crew is far behind them, and the teams are close together all in the public eye of the Vegas strip. Thats a huge risk for CBS to take.

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« Reply #706 on: August 11, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »
Maybe its me really wanting this  to be real, but the pink haired team was running really hard in 100+ heat if they werent actually racing for something.  There would be no incentive for me to run in that weather unless I was getting a million dollars.  Are we sure thats an actual checked bag tag?  When I flew internationally, they tagged my carry on as well.

If I recall correctly, they would be flying into Vegas from somewhere domestically, not directly from Prague (right?). That means that their bag would have had the tag removed and a new one put on. I agree with the original poster. They definitely aren't racing.

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« Reply #707 on: August 11, 2009, 10:11:16 PM »
In the interest of not ruling anything out...

Gary/Matt (pink hair/father-son) do not have checked luggage tags on their backpacks. The biggest problem with them is that they're in the same place as Herb/Nate (Globetrotters), who do have tags on their backpacks.

Also, in terms of carry-ons being tagged on international flights, has it been completely ruled out that teams could have flown in via Toronto?

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« Reply #708 on: August 11, 2009, 11:12:38 PM »
In the interest of not ruling anything, the father/son team was in and out of the area a good ten minutes before the globetrotters showed up.  People on walkies were in the area, could have easily directed globetrotters in.  Father/son just seemed way too intense to be a decoy team.  Given it was Vegas, Im putting my money on them being in.  Do we have any info on if they did get out, where it would have been? 

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« Reply #709 on: August 11, 2009, 11:47:10 PM »
In the interest of not ruling anything, the father/son team was in and out of the area a good ten minutes before the globetrotters showed up.  People on walkies were in the area, could have easily directed globetrotters in.  Father/son just seemed way too intense to be a decoy team.  Given it was Vegas, Im putting my money on them being in.  Do we have any info on if they did get out, where it would have been? 

If they were eliminated, it would almost certainly have been in Czech Rep., because that is where we saw them last.  However, they could have even been decoys at that point, being eliminated in the previous leg in Estonia.


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« Reply #710 on: August 12, 2009, 03:49:17 AM »
Thanks again Racefan82 !!

the Globe Trotters have a sound guy (see the mic shadow) and cameraman in tow as well

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« Reply #711 on: August 12, 2009, 08:35:59 AM »
In the interest of not ruling anything out...

Gary/Matt (pink hair/father-son) do not have checked luggage tags on their backpacks. The biggest problem with them is that they're in the same place as Herb/Nate (Globetrotters), who do have tags on their backpacks.

Also, in terms of carry-ons being tagged on international flights, has it been completely ruled out that teams could have flown in via Toronto?
woden, I can only answer that from my own perspective. Here are the nonstop flights from Toronto to Las Vegas on the morning of August 7:

US160 0850 1026
AC591 (codeshare UA8417) 0935 1115
WS 918 0830 1016

That's a lot of flights and probably influences Chateau's public statements that Toronto was viable. It still is, but there is the major problem of "how do you get there?".

The issue has never the ability to get from YYZ to LAS. The issue has been the connecting flight to get from a major European airport to Toronto in the correct time frame to connect with any of the above, meaning arrival before 7am. The same-day answer is the null set. I have checked LHR, LGW, CDG, PRG itself, AMS, CPH, ZRH, FRA, DUS, MUC, FCO and VIE, which include the 10 largest airports in Europe because Moscow splits traffic to 3 airports). I get a total of 28 nonstop daily flights from those airports to Toronto, but not a single one gets there within 12 hours of the right time frame. All flights land in the afternoon or early evening. This is not surprising if you think about it.

Flights from any European city to Toronto are into the jet stream and almost 4 hours more than the 6 hour time difference (except for LHR and LGW at a 5 hour time difference). When do flights typically leave from Europe for the U.S. or Canada? Not in the middle of the night, that's for sure because they would land very early in the morning. They do not leave until mid-morning, so by definition they will arrive after noon. Flights tend to stop departing for U.S./Canada late afternoon for evening arrival. So nobody should be surprised that there is on reasonable way to use Toronto as a connecting point. The existence of a nonstop from Prague is interesting, But OK102 is 1115 1430, way late for the right connections and way to arrive a day early to hide out and wait for them.


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« Reply #712 on: August 12, 2009, 09:11:32 AM »
In the interest of not ruling anything out...

Gary/Matt (pink hair/father-son) do not have checked luggage tags on their backpacks. The biggest problem with them is that they're in the same place as Herb/Nate (Globetrotters), who do have tags on their backpacks.

Also, in terms of carry-ons being tagged on international flights, has it been completely ruled out that teams could have flown in via Toronto?
woden, I can only answer that from my own perspective. Here are the nonstop flights from Toronto to Las Vegas on the morning of August 7:

US160 0850 1026
AC591 (codeshare UA8417) 0935 1115
WS 918 0830 1016

That's a lot of flights and probably influences Chateau's public statements that Toronto was viable. It still is, but there is the major problem of "how do you get there?".

The issue has never the ability to get from YYZ to LAS. The issue has been the connecting flight to get from a major European airport to Toronto in the correct time frame to connect with any of the above, meaning arrival before 7am. The same-day answer is the null set. I have checked LHR, LGW, CDG, PRG itself, AMS, CPH, ZRH, FRA, DUS, MUC, FCO and VIE, which include the 10 largest airports in Europe because Moscow splits traffic to 3 airports). I get a total of 28 nonstop daily flights from those airports to Toronto, but not a single one gets there within 12 hours of the right time frame. All flights land in the afternoon or early evening. This is not surprising if you think about it.

Flights from any European city to Toronto are into the jet stream and almost 4 hours more than the 6 hour time difference (except for LHR and LGW at a 5 hour time difference). When do flights typically leave from Europe for the U.S. or Canada? Not in the middle of the night, that's for sure because they would land very early in the morning. They do not leave until mid-morning, so by definition they will arrive after noon. Flights tend to stop departing for U.S./Canada late afternoon for evening arrival. So nobody should be surprised that there is on reasonable way to use Toronto as a connecting point. The existence of a nonstop from Prague is interesting, But OK102 is 1115 1430, way late for the right connections and way to arrive a day early to hide out and wait for them.
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I was watching the arrival area at YYZ for OK102 on August 6th and did not see any teams or production. Then, I was camped out at YYZ watching the check-in for US160,  AC591 and WS 918 - on the guess that the teams had arrived on Aug 6 in the afternoon from other Prague/Europe flights and had checked into the airport hotel overnight to get the early flights to LV. I saw nothing - so unless the teams camped out for 12 hours in the departure area (unlikely) they were not on those flights.

And - they don't tag carry-on baggage on flights from YYZ to the USA.

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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #713 on: August 12, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »
:funny:  ...it's possible they required them to check their backpacks on a full flight... maybe...  :duno:

What bothers me is why the "pink hair" team has such HUGE backpacks (full to the brim)....  Hey, wake up, this is the final city... you're racing to the finish line for $1M dollars.... lose the clothes... you're not going camping after this...   :funny:  :groan:

oh, BTW, is that the camera guy and audio guy (with microphone) way behind them?  :res:
Teams don't check their bags I believe while in race mode but don't quote me on that and Racefan82 did mention in his email that their were camera and soundguys behind the racers .....I should have quoted him .. sorry ;D

Perhaps their bags are full because just like the Globetrotters their bags are full because they are not actually racing in the final location.  They remembered to remove the checked-bag tags which only one of the Globetrotters forgot to remove.  The length of the tag also indicates that the bag was on several connecting flights.

The only teams actually spotted in Sin City are the pink-haired Father/Son Duo and the two Globetrotters.  Could they both be decoy teams?   The Globetrotters being Philiminated in Tallinn and the Father/Son team in Prague.   Has TPTB and WRP learned their lesson when RFF spotted the decoy Poker Playing Mamas (WITHOUT BACKPACKS) so easily in Tallinn?  Have they gone so far as actually secured a film permit just to make the arrival of the two decoy teams look more like the real thing?  Have the actual final three teams really been in another location all this time?   Most of the speculation about the two teams and the final solution has been based on one post which contained no actual sighting but a lot of suggested plot for the final day without confirmation.

Have TPTB and WRP finally been successful in leading the RFF detectives to bark up the wrong tree?



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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #714 on: August 12, 2009, 09:58:06 AM »

Have TPTB and WRP finally been successful in leading the RFF detectives to bark up the wrong tree?


I'd say no. Even though they're there, It's possible that the other three can be easily seen, and I think it's not going to be possible to fly two teams away from the finish line... The finish line must be near the location though.
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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #715 on: August 12, 2009, 10:12:52 AM »
Thanks again Racefan82 !!

the Globe Trotters have a sound guy (see the mic shadow) and cameraman in tow as well

What time is it Chateau!?

I'm having trouble placing the Harlem shot.  It's the one that will give a good time.

Think it is on the opposite end of the Rialto bridge (and opposite side) as compared with the shot of Gary & Matt Tomjenovich that Boingo placed.  But I need some tourista shots of that area to find the boxy planter they are running past

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« Reply #716 on: August 12, 2009, 10:53:28 AM »
No G Man...we have VegasSinner's sightings aas well. Vegas is real.
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« Reply #717 on: August 12, 2009, 12:43:34 PM »
adding another Vegas sighting:

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Friday, we were practically run over by two huge guys wearing Harlem Globetrotters jerseys and large backpacks running down the street followed by cameramen. I joked that they were probably on The Amazing Race. And sure enough, they ran up to The Golden Gate casino and ran back down the street carrying a big black and yellow card clearly reading "The Amazing Race"! I don't watch the show, but it was still exciting.

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« Reply #718 on: August 12, 2009, 02:31:04 PM »
adding another Vegas sighting:

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Friday, we were practically run over by two huge guys wearing Harlem Globetrotters jerseys and large backpacks running down the street followed by cameramen. I joked that they were probably on The Amazing Race. And sure enough, they ran up to The Golden Gate casino and ran back down the street carrying a big black and yellow card clearly reading "The Amazing Race"! I don't watch the show, but it was still exciting.

Sounding more and more like decoys to me...
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« Reply #719 on: August 12, 2009, 04:33:40 PM »
No G Man...we have VegasSinner's sightings aas well. Vegas is real.

Who is VegasSinner?  His first post was at 3:41AM on August 7 saying teams would be in Sin City later that day.  Then later he says three teams including the team with a guy with red streaked hair was at the Wedding Chapel at the same time as the other teams.  When prompted he said the other two teams were man with black woman and a male - female team.   He never claims seeing the teams, and if he did the Decoy Father/Son team is running with the final three teams.  It all does not add up as being verdade.  Could he not be a WRP plant to mislead all the RFF detectives?

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« Reply #720 on: August 12, 2009, 04:44:49 PM »
VegasSinner checks out Gman, I give her my stamp of approval she is not a hoaxter!

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« Reply #721 on: August 12, 2009, 04:49:47 PM »
No G Man...we have VegasSinner's sightings aas well. Vegas is real.

Who is VegasSinner?  His first post was at 3:41AM on August 7 saying teams would be in Sin City later that day.  Then later he says three teams including the team with a guy with red streaked hair was at the Wedding Chapel at the same time as the other teams.  When prompted he said the other two teams were man with black woman and a male - female team.   He never claims seeing the teams, and if he did the Decoy Father/Son team is running with the final three teams.  It all does not add up as being verdade.  Could he not be a WRP plant to mislead all the RFF detectives?
VegasSinner was never ever quoted or stated that she saw "team with a guy with red streaked hair was at the Wedding Chapel "

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You say you saw the three teams then? What did the other two look likes besides the father/son?

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It was very hard to tell, they arrived all at the same time, so very unclear who is teamed up with who.  There were four Males, and two females, one was black.
I think was a Male/Male team, then a Male/Female team, and a Male/Black Female Team, but not totally sure.

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Re: TAR 15 spoilers, sightings & locations *summary page 1*
« Reply #722 on: August 12, 2009, 05:45:46 PM »
I'm with G man I think he/she is trying to throw us off vegassinner has no proof  new here just my thoughts

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« Reply #723 on: August 12, 2009, 05:52:29 PM »
I know there are several Elvis wedding places but I 'm going to put this one out as the one:  Graceland Chapel




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619 Las Vegas Blvd. South
Las Vegas, NV 89101

Google maps says it is 14 min from the airport

The flight from Chicago UA 551 (fastest route from Prague) landed at 2:07 pm.  If things going likitysplit then I can see them getting up to this chapel by about 2:30 pm.   :jam:

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« Reply #724 on: August 12, 2009, 06:45:25 PM »
It fits in with the airport sighting where someone asked for the tallest place in the park (Fritt Fall and Fritt Fall Tilt use the same structure; the ride doesn't allow much time to play spot-the-clue, however).


 

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