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Lukes post interview
« on: May 13, 2009, 04:35:37 AM »
So i was just watching some of the post interviews that the winners and loser gave and came across luke post interview and it just made my blood boil. Luke is such a sore loser. He was saying how it is nothing speacial that Victor and Tammy won and that if him and his mom or even the cheerleaders won it would make it a more intersting win. cuz a deaf kid would have won or an all female team winning but with Victor and Tammy it was nothing speacial just a brother and sister team. Well yeah but has there ever been an Asian American team to win? I know there is an Asian version of TAR but in the American version so far none till now.

But back to the interview just his tone made me annoyed at him. While I like Margie I am no longer a luke fan. The video is posted on CBS's website for TAR. Wonder what others think about his interview. And if my view is in the minority in here


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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 01:49:12 PM »
Well like it or not (not his tone I can't judge that), but having an all female team win would be for many fans special (has it is something that hasn't happened), or if Margie & Luke had won it would be considered special (for two reasons) the first time someone with a handicap (no matter what type) was on a winning team or the first parent/child winning team.  Neither of those have happened as well.

While I do hate that attitude (personally I tend to root for the best racing team (I generally don't give rats ass about its makeup), its one that is very much a consideration of many fans and the people who cast the show in the first place.

One only has to look at the lack of what is called alpha male (young fit athletic men) teams (since race 10) not to mention the absolute refusal to consider any alpha male team for all stars (though clearly several were far, far worthier of many of the teams picked) as a way to combat the feeling that an alpha male team is old hat, its a foregone conclusion that they will win.  Many fans (myself not among them) automatically hate alpha male teams because its old hat for them to win.

Hell even when Flo won (shrugs) it was considered somewhat ground breaking because she was the first female to be a part of a team that one.

And now 14 season in male/female teams are the type that have won the most (though Tammy & Victor are only the 2nd brother/sister team and are the first asian team to win they aren't the first minority team to win).

To me it would be like we had a lesbian team win.  The thrust would be that its an all women team, the lesbian angle wouldn't stand out as much since we have had homosexuals who have won.

Or to use another example, say if Erwin and Godwin actually took the race seriously as a competition and had won.  I think most fans would still see them primarily as another alpha male team (Young/ fit and actually smart) more so then look the first asian team that won.  Of course since they sucked at racing as a team against other teams we didn't ever have to worry about it.

If Derek & Drew won I don't think people would be going look its the first set of twins that won.  I think they would first think its another alpha male team that won.

It is in that regard that I think Luke (and a lot of fans) would see it.

When Ron & Christian were in the finales I always heard more about them being the possibility of first parent/child winning team then first asian team as a secondary qualifier.

Its like Luke while it is true his handicap is that he is deaf, compared to Charla or Sarah.  I think first and foremost they would be quantified as being handicapped racers, then broken down by what said handicap is.

In the same way that Victor & Tammy are broken down as genders first, then as siblings then minority then what type of minority.
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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 04:01:23 PM »
Some racers think that either Luke and Marge or Cara and Jamie had help from production and who shared this info with who is anyones guess. Maybe this is why the contestants were sequestered from each other towards the end? and TPTB were trying to turn these teams against each other?
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We know that their were many rumors that Charla and Mirna were helped with flight info to further them along and Romber were also helped by production so the cast thought so anyway. A former racer had told me way back when that Romber along with Susan and Patrick were so hopelessly lost in Peru that production picked them off an literally dropped them off at the pitstop giving them second and third place. It could also be said that TPTB stepped in to get Ucheena and Joyce on that now famous/conspiracy flight so that their would be competition at the end, not a run away by Romber. I recall a rumor for All Stars that TPTB did not like the way Romber were racing, dominating all the legs, and that there was indeed no letter for Romber at the post office roadblock.
Heck we heard that Lyn and Karlyn (TAR10) were not even allowed on the flight from Paris with Rob/Kim Tyler/James ..because TPTB did not like them  :lol:

Those are a few instances that come to mind sooooooo Rumors or no?
And thanks mswood for bringing up some good points, you sure do know your stuff!

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 06:43:21 PM »
Some racers think that either Luke and Marge or Cara and Jamie had help from production and who shared this info with who is anyones guess. Maybe this is why the contestants were sequestered from each other towards the end? and TPTB were trying to turn these teams against each other?
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We know that their were many rumors that Charla and Mirna were helped with flight info to further them along and Romber were also helped by production so the cast thought so anyway. A former racer had told me way back when that Romber along with Susan and Patrick were so hopelessly lost in Peru that production picked them off an literally dropped them off at the pitstop giving them second and third place. It could also be said that TPTB stepped in to get Ucheena and Joyce on that now famous/conspiracy flight so that their would be competition at the end, not a run away by Romber. I recall a rumor for All Stars that TPTB did not like the way Romber were racing, dominating all the legs, and that there was indeed no letter for Romber at the post office roadblock.
Heck we heard that Lyn and Karlyn (TAR10) were not even allowed on the flight from Paris with Rob/Kim Tyler/James ..because TPTB did not like them  :lol:

Those are a few instances that come to mind sooooooo Rumors or no?
And thanks mswood for bringing up some good points, you sure do know your stuff!


If those rumors were true, then I wouldn't want to have much to do with TAR anymore...I can't stand the idea of the race being rigged in order to advance teams just because they are different in some way. The teams that do well deserve to go far. Those that don't...should be eliminated.

I'm tired of the whole focus on "minority" teams setting records. I think it's becoming too much of a cliche and does nothing. There will always be precedents set and after a while it just gets too overdiscussed to even worry about it anymore. I do admit that the idea of an all-female team winning is appealing, but to me there's just something wrong with making these people all about their uniqueness/disabilities and not about who they really are. If a contestant with a disability acts like a jerk, then he/she is a jerk, disability or not.

Plus it's not really fair to the "normal" teams when they get bypassed because there are "better" teams out there with more "diverse" characteristics.

So Luke is being unfair to T/V but I do agree that it was a predictable win. Not just because they were siblings, but because they proved themselves as strong. A M/L win would have been predictable, too, for that reason.

That's my view on this subject. Just throwing that out there. :tup:

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 09:31:51 PM »
Wow! Interesting rumors! Funny how most of them surround the two seasons when Rob and Amber were on. Disappointing if they turn out to be true. If that rumor about Susan & Patrick and Rob & Amber turned out to be true, do you think maybe it was for safety reasons? Didn't they kind of do the same for Peter & Sarah in Kuwait (if I remember correctly)?


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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 11:13:34 PM »
While Victor and Tammy being asian didnt really have anything to do with me liking them, I was just annoyed at Luke for his disrespect toward them. Just because he didnt win. The way he worded his comment just really made me see red.

I watch the race to see the best racers win. And with his interview it just seemed like he felt that he was intitled to win because he was handicapped. oh well. Now onto next season

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 07:18:35 AM »
Wow! Interesting rumors! Funny how most of them surround the two seasons when Rob and Amber were on. Disappointing if they turn out to be true. If that rumor about Susan & Patrick and Rob & Amber turned out to be true, do you think maybe it was for safety reasons? Didn't they kind of do the same for Peter & Sarah in Kuwait (if I remember correctly)?

No, they did not. Your understanding of the Kuwait episode finish needs enhancement. They were given directions to the pit stop (and maybe even an escort) so they can come in to the pit stop to be eliminated since all other teams have finished ahead of them and it was an Elimination leg. They never finished the DETOUR after many hours of searching for it. What they found was the site of the already-taken FAST FORWARD, but nothing else of consequence.

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 11:30:58 PM »
apskip

Who is also good at spelling errors is correct, Peter & Sarah were hopelessly lost, and after being hours behind the last team (and with no end in site) they were directed by producers to skip the tasks and get to the Pit Stop.  I have wondered if they did the same for Paul & Amie back in season one, when they actually did lose all communication with them at one point. 

It does get to be a safety issue allowing teams who are very tired, and very stressed to be operating motor vehicles.  After point they do need to step in, and after all its always been when their elimination is already foregone.

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I do agree that I want the best racing team to win, I generally don't care a bit about the makeup of the racers, young, old, fit, out of shape, male, female, racial makeup, or relationship.

I was just trying to point out that for many fans (based solely off of different web sites, which is hardly scientific), I think its something they really do care about.

To me its first and foremost a race.  Its like watching the Boston Marathon.  You know an athletic fit man is going to win, but there are so many great stories about any number of other racers who are out there competing.  They don't have to win, to be winners. 

And I think that is something that the race has to a degree lost.  And yeah I would love to see an all female team win, or an older team win, but I feel casting has been staking the deck to make that more likely to happen.  Which to me cheapens it a little.

Its one of the reasons I have loved how they have changed the last three seasons final episode.  Instead of making it the easiest leg to win (with beginning and mid point equalizers) to allow teams to erase any mistake they have made.  They start each team with a blank slate and you live and die off of your own performance.  Several teams have had good leads (enough to get them the win) be completely erased near the end of the leg, which has allowed other teams to win.  And I have always hated that, even if I liked the team that did end up winning.

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 11:47:02 PM »
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Who is also good at spelling errors is correct
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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 08:13:59 PM »

I do agree that I want the best racing team to win, I generally don't care a bit about the makeup of the racers, young, old, fit, out of shape, male, female, racial makeup, or relationship.

To me its first and foremost a race.  Its like watching the Boston Marathon.  You know an athletic fit man is going to win, but there are so many great stories about any number of other racers who are out there competing.  They don't have to win, to be winners. 

And I think that is something that the race has to a degree lost.  And yeah I would love to see an all female team win, or an older team win, but I feel casting has been staking the deck to make that more likely to happen.  Which to me cheapens it a little.


Yeah, I agree. I think it's about time we let a young male team back on the show. There is just as much possibility of that team getting eliminated as a dating team like Preston & Jennifer and Amanda & Kris, and look where those teams ended up.


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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 09:39:59 AM »

I do agree that I want the best racing team to win, I generally don't care a bit about the makeup of the racers, young, old, fit, out of shape, male, female, racial makeup, or relationship.

To me its first and foremost a race.  Its like watching the Boston Marathon.  You know an athletic fit man is going to win, but there are so many great stories about any number of other racers who are out there competing.  They don't have to win, to be winners. 

And I think that is something that the race has to a degree lost.  And yeah I would love to see an all female team win, or an older team win, but I feel casting has been staking the deck to make that more likely to happen.  Which to me cheapens it a little.


Yeah, I agree. I think it's about time we let a young male team back on the show. There is just as much possibility of that team getting eliminated as a dating team like Preston & Jennifer and Amanda & Kris, and look where those teams ended up.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 10:01:24 AM »
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's about time we let a young male team back on the show.

Not until an all-female team wins. :funny:

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 10:34:30 AM »
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's about time we let a young male team back on the show.

Not until an all-female team wins. :funny:
How about a young all-trannie team? :P
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 11:59:44 AM »
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's about time we let a young male team back on the show.

Not until an all-female team wins. :funny:
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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2009, 06:32:12 PM »
Luke is a punk and a moma's boy.  I don't know why anyone likes this punk.
I am stick of all the excuses people are given him for his total punk behavior.

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 08:03:25 PM »
Luke is a punk and a moma's boy.  I don't know why anyone likes this punk.
I am stick of all the excuses people are given him for his total punk behavior.


Umass, thanks for calling me a punk and a moma's boy. I'm proud to have an awesome mother to run the race with me :-) Just want to remind you that the race is pretty stressful so it can bring the worst out of people. It's just easy for you to call me like that just because you get to relax on couch while watching us racing around the world and fighting from being the last place team. You'll change your perpective of racers and teams once you experience the stress on the race. Amazing Race was one of incredible things I have done but at same time, it was one of hardest thing I have done.

So i was just watching some of the post interviews that the winners and loser gave and came across luke post interview and it just made my blood boil. Luke is such a sore loser. He was saying how it is nothing speacial that Victor and Tammy won and that if him and his mom or even the cheerleaders won it would make it a more intersting win. cuz a deaf kid would have won or an all female team winning but with Victor and Tammy it was nothing speacial just a brother and sister team. Well yeah but has there ever been an Asian American team to win? I know there is an Asian version of TAR but in the American version so far none till now.

But back to the interview just his tone made me annoyed at him. While I like Margie I am no longer a luke fan. The video is posted on CBS's website for TAR. Wonder what others think about his interview. And if my view is in the minority in here

Crickettu, I'm sorry that it made your blood broil. I wish I have said it differently on that day but there is nothing that I could change about it. Just that I was being interviewed right after the race's over on that day, of course, I was pretty upset at that point since one very last surfboard piece prevented my mom and me from winning the Amazing Race. I was so disappointed at myself and I felt like I let my family and deaf community down a big time. Try imagine yourself in my shoe about coming very close from winning the whole race. So close... Also, other reason that I was upset with Tammy and Victor winning because I knew Nick and Starr won the race so it made me feel like that we didn't need another team of brother + sister wins the race so soon. Don't forget that I am a big fan of the show! I would have much prefer to see Cara and Jaime to win since we never had an all female winners before so it would be cool to have something new and different.  But, we got our first Asian winners so it's really great! Now, I'm really happy for Tammy and Victor for their win. They really deserved it. They worked their butts off for it. I'm proud of them.  :jam: Just that I had so many emotions swirled up in me and I didn't get to sleep for over 36 hours when I was being interviewed on that day. It was a hard day for me.

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 08:25:30 PM »
Very, very nicely said Luke! Thanks for explaining.

I don't think anyone who hasn't experienced what you all went through can begin to appreciate the stress you all are under during the race, and how hard it is to come so close at the end.

One of the things I love about about your season is the way you all have bonded after the race. While there of course are always some conflicts during the race, you all seem to have been able to move past those conflicts and I think you and your Mom have have been nothing but gracious in your interviews.

Season 14 will always have a special place in my heart, love you all!

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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 09:22:32 PM »
Nice response, Luke. That was exactly what I thought after looking at your interview.
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Re: Lukes post interview
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2009, 09:35:32 PM »
Luke Ownage! Umass pwned! :jam:  :jumpy:

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