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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2009, 09:19:57 AM »
PHUKET: At least four pairs of contestants taking part in a travel documentary are racing around Phuket using various forms of transport today.
One of the challenges that faced the contestants was to pull each other through Phuket City in the midday heat using rickshaws as they searched for “King Rama V Park”.

I'm wondering now about the herbal shop/rickshaws being the two detour choices. Four pairs were witnessed with the rickshaws. We have Cara/Jamie and Michael/Mark in the herbal shop. That means everyone else would have had to pick the rickshaws. Would Mel/Mike have really chosen to do that? But I can't figure out another way for it to work.

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EP07: Jaipur, India to Phuket, Thailand
Air Date: MAR 29
Film Date: NOV 14-15
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Phuket, search for monkey matching picture (at Phuket Zoo)
[Route Info]: Perform zoo tasks (elephant massage, pose with tiger, etc)
[Route Info]: Find Patong Beach
[Fast Forward]: Will be here if there is one?
[Roadblock]: Task at Patong Beach?
[Detour]: Task at herbal shop (Nuang Choon Tong) in Thanon Talang (?) (Performed by Cara/Jamie, Michael/Mark)
OR Travel by rickshaw from Wat Phuttha Mongkhon Nimit on Soi Romani to King Rama IX Park (Seum Luang) (?) (Performed by Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor, presumably Kisha/Jen and Mel/Mike)
[Route Info]: Find Wat Thepnimit
[Pitstop]: Wat Thepnimit
Possible Eliminated Teams: Tammy/Victor, Mel/Mike, Kisha/Jen, Michael/Mark


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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2009, 09:29:24 AM »
I see that color matching Luke's t-shirt from his shoulder.

I came to the same conclusion as you did TARAsia. I looked back at the photos of Margie collapsing and there are no other teams present that I could see. Just a lot of crew. I think that Jamie/Cara arrived at the pit stop while the med staff are attending to Margie lying on the ground. Jamie is looking down at something and I assume it is Margie.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2009, 09:41:32 AM »

I have been looking at the shadows in all the shots. It appears to me that T/V arrive at the Pit Stop much much earlier than anyone else. There is no shadow on the stupa. In the pics of Mel/Mike, Kisha/Jen, Luke/Margie and Mark/Michael the shadow is almost the same. So a pretty close finish. I can't really tell in the photo of Jamie/Cara, but there seems to be a faint shadow that matches the other 4 teams. From the blogger, we know that Mel/Mike and T/V arrived on a flight by themselves. So I wonder how come the mat times for these two teams are so far apart. In the photo of Victor pulling the rickshaw in Phuket city, the shadows appear around noon to me also.


Could it be that Mike/Mel get actually lost now in Phuket - like in the commercials? making T/V arriving so much earlier than the others? and if they really are the first team to arrive - they probably get the penalty, but would still remain first? Arrgh! It's so confusing!

We speculate that Margie/Luke would probably be ahead of Cara/Jaime for a few minutes because of the photo up few posts back... but wouldn't the "ideal way" be staff be bringing Margie to someplace cooler first before checking in Jaime/Cara?

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2009, 09:44:34 AM »
I think that the task involving Thai fishing boats may well turn out to be a detour choice....

PHUKET: At least four pairs of contestants taking part in a travel documentary are racing around Phuket using various forms of transport today.
One of the challenges that faced the contestants was to pull each other through Phuket City in the midday heat using rickshaws as they searched for “King Rama V Park”.

And I would take those newspaper reports with a grain of salt. They were as nice as they could be, to me by email and to Neobie in person, but this is also the paper who told me directly that the team in our photo was a female/female team.  I think they had a very limited perspective and would not count on the 4 teams thing as gospel.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2009, 11:22:06 AM »
That hand appears to be connected with the person in a brown tee shirt to me. If you check (and I have) no team and no Phil shot above presumably on the mat has a brown tee shirt on. Could it be the Greeter?
I see that color matching Luke's t-shirt from his shoulder.
TARAsia fan, I think you too are right. I had looked at the multi-colored tee shirt Luke has on at the mat and discounted it being brown, but there could well be enough solid brown in the right places within the multicolored pattern.


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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2009, 11:23:12 AM »
The fishing boats could be a detour choice if the rickshaws turn out not to be. If the "taking turns" quote about the rickshaws is accurate, the fishing boats would have to be a roadblock.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2009, 11:29:41 AM »
I'd say Luke is a good guess  :tup:

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2009, 11:38:34 AM »
Phil: you have incurred 2 penalties




Are we sure that's Jaimie's hand on Cara's shoulder? Is that someone else in the frame with them to the left of Cara?

And the 2 penalties are for sure just for one team, not one for this team and another penalty for another team. In the preview Phil directly tells a team that they are receiving 2.
Oh, goodness.  Whoever it is he says it to, I hope it's not these two.  Maybe they're just reacting to what happened to Margie if they checked in around the same time as she and Luke.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2009, 11:47:01 AM »
2 penalties - one per Team (Jamie/Cara & Margie/Luke)?

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2009, 11:48:50 AM »
The Philimination Station photos have plenty of shadows on them.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2009, 11:50:41 AM »
Why are you all thinking J/C and M/L?? Clearly Phil is saying YOU (ie one team) have incurred two penalties.

And it is impossible to determine who based on that promo. I think that pic is just J/C and Luke upset over Margie.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2009, 12:00:25 PM »
And it is impossible to determine who based on that promo. I think that pic is just J/C and Luke upset over Margie.
And based on her recent freak-outs, that's turning into Jaime's sole redeeming quality.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2009, 12:41:42 PM »
Why are you all thinking J/C and M/L?? Clearly Phil is saying YOU (ie one team) have incurred two penalties.

And it is impossible to determine who based on that promo. I think that pic is just J/C and Luke upset over Margie.

And why can't "YOU" be referring to the 2 teams standing together on the mat? That would be Jaime/Cara and Margie/Luke even iof Margie is not with Luke due to her medical treatment.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2009, 12:59:45 PM »
Hmm, I'm still thinking that Tammy and Victor incur the penalties.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2009, 01:45:46 PM »
Hmm, I'm still thinking that Tammy and Victor incur the penalties.
Same here.  Especially since it was said that ONE first-place team gets hit with two penalties.
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »
The rick
PHUKET: At least four pairs of contestants taking part in a travel documentary are racing around Phuket using various forms of transport today.
One of the challenges that faced the contestants was to pull each other through Phuket City in the midday heat using rickshaws as they searched for “King Rama V Park”.

I'm wondering now about the herbal shop/rickshaws being the two detour choices. Four pairs were witnessed with the rickshaws. We have Cara/Jamie and Michael/Mark in the herbal shop. That means everyone else would have had to pick the rickshaws. Would Mel/Mike have really chosen to do that? But I can't figure out another way for it to work.

Brought over from the spoiler page:
EP07: Jaipur, India to Phuket, Thailand
Air Date: MAR 29
Film Date: NOV 14-15
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Phuket, search for monkey matching picture (at Phuket Zoo)
[Route Info]: Perform zoo tasks (elephant massage, pose with tiger, etc)
[Route Info]: Find Patong Beach
[Fast Forward]: Will be here if there is one?
[Roadblock]: Task at Patong Beach?
[Detour]: Task at herbal shop (Nuang Choon Tong) in Thanon Talang (?) (Performed by Cara/Jamie, Michael/Mark)
OR Travel by rickshaw from Wat Phuttha Mongkhon Nimit on Soi Romani to King Rama IX Park (Seum Luang) (?) (Performed by Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor, presumably Kisha/Jen and Mel/Mike)
[Route Info]: Find Wat Thepnimit
[Pitstop]: Wat Thepnimit
Possible Eliminated Teams: Tammy/Victor, Mel/Mike, Kisha/Jen, Michael/Mark

The rickshaws aren't the Roadblock so we have the other tasks to speculate on. I'll pull the screencaps and try to organize them later but wish we had more!
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #166 on: March 26, 2009, 02:33:39 PM »
Clues:

TEAMS TAKE A WALK ON THE WILD SIDE WHEN THEY RECEIVE A FOOT MASSAGE FROM A LOCAL ELEPHANT, AND THE EXTREME HEAT OF THAILAND CAUSES ONE RACER TO COLLAPSE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MARCH 29 
"Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???" (Thailand) -

-The teams travel from India to Thailand on the seventh leg of the race
"Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???"
-Once there, they pose with a tiger and receive foot massages from an elephant
Teams take a walk on the wild side…or rather, the wild side walks on them
 

-One team finds that time is not of the essence when a shopkeeper hinders their movement,
One team finds itself at the mercy of a slow moving Thai shopkeeper.

 -A first place team finds itself in the penalty box—and their victory in jeopardy
and others discover that a hurried pace doesn't always equal victory, particularly when mistakes can add up to penalties


-The region's extreme heat causes one racer to collapse at the pit stop
and in the extreme temperature of Thailand, one racer collapses from exhaustion.



First up, we know the Zoo must be first per blogger with Mel/Mike Vic/Tammy, pic of money in hand
Tasks @ Phuket Zoo:

"Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???"
-Once there, they pose with a tiger and receive foot massages from an elephant
Teams take a walk on the wild side…or rather, the wild side walks on them
 




Cara/Jamie Kisha/Jen Michael/Mark



Cara & Jamie

Task: Something to do with Patong fishing boats:



Mike & Mel lost in Patong


Task: something to do with the Herbal shop (shopping?)
-One team finds that time is not of the essence when a shopkeeper hinders their movement,
One team finds itself at the mercy of a slow moving Thai shopkeeper.
 

Jamie/Cara Michael/Mark


Task : Rickshaws
Tammy & Victor

Marge & Luke



Hmm, will try my best to explain...



Mongkol Nimit Temple (at the end of the lane, 1st photo)
Suggested by traffic warden / traffic police at E. Possible start of rickshaw task.
Witness saw teams running east, past A.

Soi Romani (Romani Lane) (1st, 2nd photos; parking lot on right hand side of 2nd photo)
Possible start of rickshaw task, as suggested by witness at D. It's a narrow lane, with a smallish parking lot at the south end.

Yuen Chun Tong Herbal Shop (3rd photo)
Will definitely be visited by our teams.
Witness at B saw teams turning right from Th Phuket onto Th Thalang, escorted/led by a police motorcade.

Thai-Chinese Museum (last photo)
Suggested by witness at C. No reports from the people at/around the museum though.




Pitstop , Pitstop is Wat Thepnimit.
 
thanks to hakushu8
  -A first place team finds itself in the penalty box—and their victory in jeopardy
and others discover that a hurried pace doesn't always equal victory, particularly when mistakes can add up to penalties


-The region's extreme heat causes one racer to collapse at the pit stop
and in the extreme temperature of Thailand, one racer collapses from exhaustion




Tammy & Victor

Marge & Luke

Luke Tammy with Cara and Jamie  

sisters

brothers

Mike & Mel


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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2009, 03:06:11 PM »
I just can't see Phil telling Jamie/Cara and Luke that each team has a time penalty while Margie is lying on the ground. I can see him telling Jamie/Cara at the mat and then later on telling'explaining to Luke/Margie in private,  they have a time penalty. Then starting the next episode with an explanation to the viewers that Luke/Margie got the same penalty.....that makes sense to me.

But I really think that ONE other team gets two penalties....because of the great differences on the shadows on that stupa, it leds me to believe it is Tammy/Victor......at least till we get more clues/evidence.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #168 on: March 26, 2009, 05:08:59 PM »
This episode looks exciting!  :wohoo:

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #169 on: March 26, 2009, 05:16:20 PM »
I noticed that Margie, while pulling the rickshaw, wasn't wearing a hat like Victor.

I wonder if whoever has to pull the rickshaw is required to wear a hat, or if Victor decided to wear one on his own.

I don't recall previous instances where teams were penalized for not wearing required gear.

Thanks for re-posting the hints puddin, especially this one:
"One team finds that time is not of the essence when a shopkeeper hinders their movement, and others discover that a hurried pace doesn't always equal victory, particularly when mistakes can add up to penalties..."

I always parse the words carefully, and I'm trying to figure out if "others discover" refers to multiple teams or the members of a single team.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but if multiple teams do get penalized, then it makes sense that they would use "others discover" instead of "another discovers."

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #170 on: March 26, 2009, 05:36:52 PM »
I wonder if Mel and Mike are looking for the Rock City gorilla in Patong? The preview shows them nearby.

And - it appears that the Rock City bar was mysteriously closed the week of November 11, 2008... :ascared
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #171 on: March 26, 2009, 05:53:45 PM »
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And - it appears that the Rock City bar was mysteriously closed the week of November 11, 2008...
They were probably packing up and moving to eastern end of Bangla road (read the 02 Dec entry here).

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #172 on: March 26, 2009, 06:30:18 PM »


Looks estuarine, huh? If the beaches of Phuket had water that colour the tourists wouldn't be coming... :lol:

The only creek near Patong (the west coast is mostly headlands and beaches) is on the beach's southern end. There are only four other creeks on the west coast, and some of them are way too narrow for this shot. Plenty of these on the east coast though (where the water is more sheltered).
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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2009, 06:40:33 PM »
I think Jamie's just upset and worried over Margie and that's why she's crying.

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Re: TAR14 EP7: 'Gorilla? Gorilla?? Gorilla???' (Phuket, Thailand)
« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2009, 07:54:13 PM »
I think this base on the photos
on Jamie and Cara maybe a reaction of Margie or been eleminated
Tammy and Victor Seems they got the penalty
Margie and Luke reaction when Phill say that Tammy & Victor Penalties
Mel & Mike For not being first
Kisha and Jen Last Team to arrive
Mark & Michael For not being first


 

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